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Speaker 1: Can I just congratulate you because the last time you're

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I've had. I've had a great

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Speaker 2: I always ask myself questions after each fight. The Joyce

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Speaker 1: It's the weirdest thing. So because I look at you now,

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is life beyond the ring? But also I

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Speaker 2: Nik has already shown that he's been inspiring with the

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Speaker 1: Just to explain to people that he's one below heavyweight,

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Speaker 2: You can really you know, well for YOUU sik Usick

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Speaker 1: Seriously, you can How much of it do you reckon

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Speaker 2: You need the talent, you need the hard work. And

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Speaker 2: Tyson gave me the link to train of Andy Lee.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Tyson needs, from my own opinion, Tyson

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Speaker 2: He's a freak of nature. But he loves to have

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Speaker 1: Because this is what see what's so exciting about this one.

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Speaker 2: It's great for the sport. You have one champion, one face,

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Speaker 2: I'm one fight off, one or two fights off being

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Speaker 2: But I'd like to help other young fighters. Starting off

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Speaker 1: That's brilliant and Saudi Arabia. Give me your take on

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Speaker 1: see once upon a time when you started Kevin Barry

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Speaker 2: That's listen taken over. And also it's not just going

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Speaker 1: Book because the streaming service that you're on with Nika,

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Speaker 1: the Zone, Yeah, that's is that out of Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 2: So devon Akas Flight's going to be on the Zone,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be live here in New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 1: So that's amazing. He's going to we don't know who

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Speaker 2: But there's a few names that he's they're just negotiating good.

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Speaker 1: Names decent names, good names, sell out names, names that

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Speaker 1: i'd buy a table for to come along, of course,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Of course, good on you, all right, mate, Well,

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Speaker 1: so you'll fight one more time before the end of

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Speaker 2: You were like one or two fights, one or two

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Speaker 2: hopefully October and December.

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Speaker 1: When you're in your phase at the moment with your

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Speaker 1: seven thousand calories. How much work are you doing physically?

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Speaker 1: A lot of because you've got to burn that.

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Speaker 2: Stuff's night around an hour and a half, Monday night

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Speaker 2: I'm doing waits in cardio.

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Speaker 2: Lot of hard work. And I'm tired. I'm tired from

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Speaker 2: I'm tired from everything. But you know what, I love

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Speaker 2: it more now than I've ever done before.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, mate, Listen, it's lovely to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you. Good luck with the promotion job, good luck

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Speaker 1: with a fight. We'll get you back in again too,

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Speaker 1: very much. Always good to see you. There we go,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Parker. Now this morning, good stuff. It is already

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