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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks B.

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Speaker 2: Hello, James, are you encumbered by any leadership responsibility we have?

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Speaker 3: I just interrupted Hurricanes FM. What what's going on?

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Speaker 1: You have?

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Speaker 2: Welcome aboard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know you've got first five issues. This

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Speaker 3: is all I know. But you've still got enough talent

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Speaker 3: to win the whole thing. So they get it right.

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Speaker 3: The biggest decision is duple ev versus being a larky.

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Speaker 3: That's who starts.

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Speaker 2: It's big. I thought maybe you and Chief Country might

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Speaker 2: have given us Josh Jacob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing. He's been playing so well

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Speaker 3: in pre season. It looks like he might maybe get

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Speaker 3: the ten jersey to start with d Mek roaming out

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Speaker 3: the back.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you think that's what they might do?

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Speaker 3: Well? Shawn Stevenson's gone to Japan on a bit of

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Speaker 3: a sabetical slash. I'm going to end some more money

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Speaker 3: up here and let me that they are short to

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Speaker 3: fall back and there are you know Nadawa can play there.

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Speaker 3: None can play there. But maybe it's just easier if

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Speaker 3: Jacobs in such good form to let the Mac play

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Speaker 3: out the back.

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Speaker 2: You got well yeah, yeah, yeah, but greedy. We're trying

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Speaker 2: to work out how to play there. You've got about

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Speaker 2: three up there.

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Speaker 3: The greediest team are the Blues, but I meant the right.

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Speaker 3: They are the champions and now they've got Bowden back

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Speaker 3: with Harry Plummer, Stephen Peerfetter and Evan zhn Sullivan, so

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Speaker 3: so much to choose in the tens of the fifteen

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you want to get to Super rugby in a bit,

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Speaker 2: but let's start chronologically, or this isn't actually chronological, but

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Speaker 2: it's something has already happened. It's the black Caps last

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Speaker 2: night in a fifty over game three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: for six against Pakistan. Glenn Phillips one oh six of

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Speaker 2: seventy four balls and then your bowl Pakistan out for

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Speaker 2: two fifty two. That's a pretty good day's work, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It really is mean they're in Lahore, they're pretty much

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Speaker 3: that the local side is expecting to win. But I

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Speaker 3: think I've said this to you before party. I think

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Speaker 3: the fifty over game is our best discipline, best format

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Speaker 3: for this New Zealand side. Even when you see the

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Speaker 3: team names, you just can't find a weakness from the

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Speaker 3: start to the top to the bottom there so to

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Speaker 3: bat You know, with the batting you had Darl Mitchell

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Speaker 3: with his eighty one can at another another fifty. But

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Speaker 3: Glenn Phillips the one oh six not out just shows

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Speaker 3: he is a really an outstanding white ball cricketer. And

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Speaker 3: then you've got oh, Mitch Santner and Matt Henry for

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Speaker 3: three wickets apiece. It's pretty good going. And when you

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Speaker 3: wonder about the Pakistani team, well, Shahana Freedi was bowling

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Speaker 3: the big tall guy with the perfect hair and he

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Speaker 3: got smashed for about eighty runs off his ten eighty

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Speaker 3: eight off his ten overs. And then don't take me

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Speaker 3: to the Book and Standards authority, but fuck as a

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Speaker 3: man scored eighty four.

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Speaker 2: You know there will be no there'll be no complaints

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Speaker 2: proffered there. I know Mitchell Santon has just been given

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Speaker 2: the job of white ball captain, but if he were

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Speaker 2: to be injured or something, would you give Glen Phillips

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Speaker 2: a crack as captain of the white ball team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would be a good option. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's one of those ones where at the moment

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Speaker 3: he's a nailed on selection, So yes, he is an

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Speaker 3: option to captain, but you just don't know who the

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Speaker 3: good tacticians are sometimes. I mean Kin Williamson, I mean

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Speaker 3: he won us a World Test Championship as captain, but

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Speaker 3: I sort of have it on pretty good authority that

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Speaker 3: you know, for a lot of his games he leant

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Speaker 3: heavily on the likes of Ross Taylor and Salve himself

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Speaker 3: was really a collective, so you know there will be

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Speaker 3: someone there who was always got Tom Latham as well,

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Speaker 3: you know, so he's clear leadership all the way through

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Speaker 3: and future captain Rach and Avender as well.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of right and you falls from the field in

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Speaker 2: this game, struck in the forehead attempting a catch. He

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Speaker 2: sustained a laceration to his forehead. He's otherwise, it was

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Speaker 2: treated otherwise okay, came through his HIA well and will

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Speaker 2: be continue to be monitored. So that's good news for

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Speaker 2: Rach and moving forward Super Bowl tomorrow. Are you going

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Speaker 3: We'll be parked up at kraig As Wild where we're

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Speaker 3: to bring the hot dogs. It usually falls on me

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Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. So yes will be

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Speaker 3: packed up here thinking, well, who's it going to be?

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Speaker 3: Is going to be Chief's manner? Will it be the Eagles?

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Speaker 3: At the moment, they're very the Chiefs and narrow favorites,

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Speaker 3: but too tough to pick really. I'm just hoping that

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Speaker 3: there's going to be plenty of plenty of touchdowns. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to dour a fair It needs to be

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Speaker 3: something exciting, something that you know. There's obviously plenty of

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift sightings as well to Kendrick Lamar at halftime,

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Speaker 3: but it's really tough to pick. If anything, I'd say

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Speaker 3: maybe the Eagles with their defense could could get the

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Speaker 2: All right, we've got a bit of a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: preview after two o'clock. But yeah, I think you can

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Speaker 2: even bet on anders and overs the number of times

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift appears in the broadcast coverage.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd rather bet on that than the actual result,

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Speaker 3: because right now I'm just thinking, oh, surely you know

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is going to get it done with Taylor's boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: you know, Trevis Kelcey. But in you go say Kwon

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Speaker 3: Barclay on the other side of the running backs for

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Speaker 3: the ages, he's you know, there's just there's a lot

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Speaker 3: to like. It's a santalizing proposition this game and looking

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Speaker 3: forward to the halftime meds for Key easiest to sort

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Speaker 3: of go on YouTube and watch those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they'll Yeah, they'll pop up pretty pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: They will be able to watch those. Hey, staying in

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Speaker 2: the United States, I know it's sort of it not

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Speaker 2: old news, but it's happened a little while ago. Now

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Speaker 2: as the whole Luka Doncics trade to the LA Lakers,

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Speaker 2: do you have any reflections on this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I think everyone thinks it's madness and

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Speaker 3: Luca Donches is an absolute superstar. He has trouble with

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Speaker 3: his fitness. I mean I can relate with his weight. Again,

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Speaker 3: definitely relate to Luca, but his skill is not in question,

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Speaker 3: so he is truly pretty much. I think ninety nine

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Speaker 3: percent of people said this is madness as trade isn't

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Speaker 3: worth anything. But the one percent consisted included Charles Berkley,

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Speaker 3: the Great Charles Bikeleery. He said this isn't a bad deal.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis goes across to the other side the mono

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Speaker 3: brow you know, most famous mono brows of Freda Carlo,

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Speaker 3: the Mexican painter. So you know he is a proper

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Speaker 3: superstar himself and will make the Dallas Maverick's better in

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Speaker 3: the short term. But I was thinking that I was

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Speaker 3: trying to work out what would be the trade that

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Speaker 3: We don't necessarily trade in New Zealand, but I think

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Speaker 3: Alex Pulson going to or CRUNDSB because a lot of drama.

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Speaker 3: Sorry if you and Bowden Barrett going to the Blues

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Speaker 3: was quite big as well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for driving deep into the heart of Hurricanes c FM,

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Speaker 2: but TV.

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Speaker 3: Right right at right now.

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Speaker 2: But what those things did, though James was was create talk,

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Speaker 2: right And that's what this, this this trade in the

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Speaker 2: NBA has shown us. There's that the off court narratives

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Speaker 3: It's a really good point because the NBA has been struggling.

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Speaker 3: NFL is bigger than ever. College football, American football is massive,

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Speaker 3: the NBA sitt and needed something, and they're coming up

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Speaker 3: to the All Star weekend, which is always such a flop.

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Speaker 3: It's just a massive kind of like non contested a

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Speaker 3: game of social basketball. It's better watching the actual celebrity game,

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Speaker 3: where you know, you still to get some random rappers

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Speaker 3: their game, saying it's a big deal, exactly what Adam Silver,

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Speaker 3: the commissioner of the NBA wants, just to finish.

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Speaker 2: Wales played Italy overnight and Italy won. If that was

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Speaker 2: a football game, we wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. It's

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Speaker 2: a rugby game. And actually I'm not sure we're raising

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Speaker 2: an eyebrow now that it's a rugby game. Wales are terrible.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen straight defeats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're totally in rebuild mode. I feel sorry for

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Speaker 3: Warren Gatlin, but it doesn't look good at a CV

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Speaker 3: because is he I think he went a eleven games straight.

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Speaker 3: this fourteen or is it yeah at fourteen. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 3: Italy are really good. They've got recently, you've got this

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he is Italy. Last year they beat Wales,

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Speaker 3: the Italians. But yeah, it just doesn't look good for Gats.

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Speaker 3: And I can't see when happening. I can't see too

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Speaker 3: Irish Lions this year. It's a really it's a tough

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Speaker 3: mean he's a bad coach. It's just he's been caught

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Speaker 3: with circumstances where a golden generation retires on and this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Argentinian player now Italian rugby coach

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Speaker 2: whose name escapes you as Gonzalo Carsaded, Is that him, Yeah, Cassa.

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Speaker 3: Gonz Yeah, my deepest apologies lociento, which is Spanish because

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Speaker 3: he speaks Spanish, even though he probably speaks Italian as well.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean this is all stuff for any

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Speaker 3: trying to add you to Hurricanes FM here, but you

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Speaker 3: look out for those chiefs though. Yeah, still strong, all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Claik McMillan's leading us off after two, so I'll

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Speaker 2: check him with him about who he's got in store

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Speaker 2: to replace Wallace. Enjoy Super Bowl, James. Let's catch up

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Speaker 2: again next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Love to thanks Piney, cheers mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks James. James mcconey a huge part of our Sundays

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