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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Hello there, you're a good afternoon welcoming. I'm a very

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Speaker 2: warm welcome in to the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: for September twenty, Happy fifty fourth birthday, former All Blacks

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Speaker 2: Captain Todd Blackadder and Happy seventy fourth to form a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Slow left arm spin up Stephen Boch. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Fine. The show produced by Andy McDonald. We're talking

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Speaker 2: sport with you until three. The Black Fern's eight year

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Speaker 2: rain as Rugby World Cup holders is over.

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Speaker 3: Here go New Zealand again. Close Simon's is up on it,

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Speaker 3: feet away goes loll on here.

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Speaker 4: Stolen away.

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Speaker 2: Canada have got it.

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Speaker 3: Call them under dogs, call them dump horses, no way,

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Speaker 3: call them rocky. World Cup finalists Jamanan brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Ruthless and efficient. Janada are going to.

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Speaker 3: The decider that Indone Zealand's reign and it is so richly,

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Speaker 3: richly deserved.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four to nineteen the final score in Bristol this morning.

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Speaker 2: Blackburn's coach Allen Bunting with us very shortly. Former captain

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Speaker 2: and twenty seventeen Rugby World Cup win Ales Elder later

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Speaker 2: this hour. Your thoughts are very welcome to lines open

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Speaker 2: on the rugby immediately and across the afternoon other matters

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Speaker 2: around today. The black Caps pace bowling stocks have been

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Speaker 2: bolstered for the Chapel Hadley T twenty series against Australia

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Speaker 2: early next month. Kyle Jameson back in the side. He's

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Speaker 2: on the show after one. One of New Zealand's most

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Speaker 2: iconic motorsport events, the Ashley Forest Rally Sprint, is on

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Speaker 2: this weekend just outside of lod Angyorda. Hayden Padden is

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Speaker 2: in the field. He first traced this event as a

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Speaker 2: fourteen year old. He's won at five times. He's with

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Speaker 2: us this afternoon. The Breakers. They've got their season underway

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Speaker 2: with a loss to the Brisbane Bullets last night. They've

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Speaker 2: got a new ownership group, though headed up by Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: not the police minister. He's the majority owner of the

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Speaker 2: club now he's in for a chat after two and

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Speaker 2: it is ten years to the day since one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest upsets in Rugby World Cup history. It's been

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Speaker 2: exactly a decade since Japan beat South Africa thirty four

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Speaker 2: thirty two at the twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup. The

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Speaker 2: Brighton Miracle they called it, you might remember it. Japan

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Speaker 2: scored right right right at the end to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Going to relive it with Brave Blossoms. First five cose

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Speaker 2: Ono who wore the ten jumper that day. Adam Peacock

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Speaker 2: with the latest from Australian Sport. As usual, just a

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Speaker 2: word on Liam Lawson. Promising signs as you heard in

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Speaker 2: our sports news for Liam Lawson at the latest Formula

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Speaker 2: One events in Azerbaijan. Two top ten finishes in practice,

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Speaker 2: ninth fastest in the first session, seventh fastest in the second.

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep eyes very closely on qualifying tonight for

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Speaker 2: the Azerbaijan Grand Prix. Whole Heap A live sport this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: the World Track and Field Champs continue. Olympic silver medalist

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Speaker 2: from last year, Maddi Weshi is in women's shot put

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Speaker 2: qualifying from ten past one this afternoon she needs to

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Speaker 2: throw nineteen meters twenty or better or be in the

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Speaker 2: Maddi Wishy's PB is twenty point h six so that

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Speaker 2: in men's discus qualifying from about twenty five to two

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. He's got to throw sixty six point five

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Speaker 2: so again it is well within his reached. Let's hope

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Speaker 2: Track and Field Champs, which have already delivered absolutely loughing

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Speaker 2: the World Track and Field Champs out of Tokyo this

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Speaker 2: week Round eight and the Bunnings MPC continues. Counties Manico

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Speaker 2: including Cam royguard on the bench. Don't get injured. Cam,

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Speaker 2: don't get injured against Auckland, Rico Yuani and Caleb Clark

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Speaker 2: both starting in that game. Pooka Cooey five pass two

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Speaker 2: will keep eyes on that for you. Wellington and Southland

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Speaker 2: underway at Jerry Collins Stadium and Pottydour at the same time,

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Speaker 2: and there's a Ran fully Shield Challenge this afternoon as well,

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Speaker 2: O'tago trying to prize it away from Canterbury and Christy

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Speaker 2: at four thirty five. We'll preview that one for you

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Speaker 2: Fara Palmer Cup round robin before the finals next weekend

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Speaker 2: Counties Manico looking to take Auckland's place in the top four.

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Speaker 2: Half an hour gone in that match and Auckland lead

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Speaker 2: at twelve nil. Canterbury host Bay of twenty five past

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Speaker 2: that time as well, and six or round six matches

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Speaker 2: in the Heartland Championship Gisbon, Masterton, Graymouth, Ashburton, Coramandel and Fanganui,

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Speaker 2: News Talks B the Black Ferns beaten by Canada in

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Speaker 2: their Rugby World Cup semifinal in Bristol this morning.

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Speaker 5: Puts it on the toe this time Perry Tessier underneath it.

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Speaker 4: One had to wait and leave it dead, Lucker thick

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Speaker 4: and go here car again, Canada pressing love you the

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Speaker 4: first points Pelty strikes. Oh is that play from Canada?

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Speaker 4: And it's just said z who gets the first try

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Speaker 4: of the semifinals.

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Speaker 2: That was the first of Canada's five tries, four of

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Speaker 2: them in the first half. They ran out thirty four

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Speaker 2: and nineteen winners over New Zealand and Bristol. This morning.

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Speaker 2: Black Fern's head coach is Alan Bunting, who joins us now, Allen,

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Speaker 2: WA's your overall assessment, first of all, of how the

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Speaker 2: semi final played out.

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Speaker 6: You're obviously congratulations to Kevin and the Canadian woman and Sophie.

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Speaker 7: They are really accurate today.

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Speaker 6: And I wish him are the best of the final.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, obviously you really gut it. You got it

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Speaker 6: through our ladies and obviously our coaching and minister stuff.

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Speaker 6: There is a lot of week gone on and I

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Speaker 6: there's going to be a pretty disappointed country back there.

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Speaker 6: So he obviously cut it first, But here kent accurate

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Speaker 6: today and if he was going to play and made

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Speaker 6: too many years and then gave her too many penalties

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Speaker 6: and got too far on the back foot.

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Speaker 7: But just you can't sort of fold our ladies.

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Speaker 6: They keep trying and the effort and intent out there

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Speaker 7: And you can try and call back, and they certainly

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Speaker 2: Could you have done anything differently or better?

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Speaker 8: Oh, we don't.

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Speaker 6: Obviously don't try and make them any years, and we

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Speaker 6: you didn't the sort of exit out that how we'd

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Speaker 6: like to have made it. Obviously made it many years,

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Speaker 6: and obviously they were pretty acurate once they got the

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Speaker 2: Well the errors a result of the of the scoreboard

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Speaker 7: Oh jeez, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Obviously trying the abasement they and trying to play our game once,

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Speaker 6: you know, once we got done on the half and

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Speaker 6: got our game game, we were pretty hard to stop,

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Speaker 6: but we there's stuff we didn't get down there enough,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, you are, ladies, intent and an effort to

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Speaker 6: try and get going, and obviously if there is, I

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Speaker 6: don't know what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did Canada's fast paced game, particularly at the start,

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Speaker 6: You will say, you going there? Pretty hard to stop,

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Speaker 6: aren't they? Once we got going, we were pretty.

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Speaker 8: Hard to stop.

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Speaker 6: But they obviously had the ball for a bit longer

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Speaker 2: Did you suffer at all from a lack of really

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Speaker 2: competitive games before the semi final?

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Speaker 6: No, all right, we've that was help playing from the

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Speaker 6: job to give us as many games as we can,

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Speaker 6: and we felt like we had enough prepression going.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, obvious it wasn't our day today.

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Speaker 2: I mean at the tournaments, you know, you weren't really tested,

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Speaker 2: I know that's not your fault, but what was that?

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Speaker 2: Was that a factor at all?

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Speaker 6: Or probably South Africa you know, obviously tested us sort

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Speaker 6: of peace wise, but you you what, you're right there

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Speaker 6: we've probably get tested across the board Canada or pretty

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Speaker 6: solid across the board, and I'm here.

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Speaker 7: But I'd like you can't hold you our ladies effort.

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Speaker 2: Today the playoff for third and fourth now a game

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Speaker 2: no one really wants to end up and having made

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Speaker 2: it to the semis, how will you reinvigorate the group

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Speaker 2: ahead of that game?

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Speaker 6: This scroop's pretty tightly connected, these lord of love in

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Speaker 6: this group, and it would be pretty tough if we

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Speaker 6: didn't have another game, to be honest, you know, we

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Speaker 6: you know it's the beauty of sport.

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Speaker 7: It can break your heart.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes, but we get another you know, go at the end,

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Speaker 6: make our family and our country proud and play another game.

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Speaker 2: Have you given any thought as to how you approach

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Speaker 2: that selection wise? And there are players here who may

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Speaker 2: well be playing their last game for the Black Ferns?

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Speaker 2: Will you take that into account? Will you give other

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Speaker 2: players who haven't had the opportunity and opportunity how will

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Over the next day also, will definitely have a good

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Speaker 6: look at that. We you know, we've just been focused

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Speaker 6: on this week that we stayed in our week, so

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Speaker 6: you would have a look at the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Tough like Ellen, thanks for joining us this afternoon. Yep, noros,

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Speaker 2: thanks Jason, No, thank you Ellen. Ellen Bunting their head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Black Ferns, understandably downcast there searching for

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Speaker 2: some answers. Time for your thoughts on the game, if

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Speaker 2: you'd like to put them across oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty lines, open to talk some rugby. Canada

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Speaker 2: utterly exceptional, just brilliant, especially in that first half. They

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Speaker 2: came out so fast, two tries in the first twelve minutes,

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Speaker 2: seventeen nill ahead after twenty five minutes. From there, it

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Speaker 2: was always going to be a long way back. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand did get back into the game shortly after Canada's

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Speaker 2: third tribe with one of their own, but the converted

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Speaker 2: try that Canada scored just before half time to make

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Speaker 2: it twenty four to seven was the killer. Has Welikal made.

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Speaker 3: The hit Beltier goes again, She's so dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Half performer the Goody charging so please supper from Canada

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Speaker 4: and Sophie the Goody.

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Speaker 2: Here's twenty four to seven going in ten points down.

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Speaker 2: Your feel would have been manageable going in seventeen points down,

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Speaker 2: but by that stage the damage was done. We gave

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Speaker 9: But Liam laws isn't it great that how well he's doing?

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Speaker 11: Now what happens now do we pay off a third

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Speaker 2: Thank yeah, yet the other semi finalists. Tonight France play England,

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Speaker 9: Yep, yep, so we either get third or fourth of

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Speaker 2: Depends, that's right there, that's well, it's good. Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I felt the same way, Wendy. I felt the same way.

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Speaker 2: I hear him, I hear you. But I don't think

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Speaker 12: Yeah, because that was the difference those last points that

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Speaker 12: and that's the big question for me out of this

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Speaker 12: Thing of the World Cup in nineteen eighty seven, by

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Speaker 2: David kept Chruss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've been watching for about that long as well.

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Speaker 2: good good thoughts, well made. Yeah, the Georgia Miller one

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case. But if if you got a

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Speaker 2: Because hamstrings can come right in a week. So if

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Speaker 2: I look forward to watching England against France tonight. All

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Speaker 2: to something we have. I presume that this isn't a joke.

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Speaker 2: Two tickets to the bled Uslow Cup Test next Saturday

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Speaker 2: As and Andy, this is actually true. We actually have

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Speaker 13: We don't joke about these things.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what I thought. I thought that would be

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Speaker 2: We can't get you to Walkland, but if you can

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Speaker 2: Five o'clock kickoff, remember next Saturday, Eden Park. To be

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Speaker 2: Because when you text the word, this is just a

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Speaker 2: When you text that word bled uslow to nine two

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Speaker 2: uslow to nine two nine two, Smally, is that is

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Speaker 14: That's my nickname, Wayne Small's my name?

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Speaker 2: Oh Wayne, Say how are you mate?

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Speaker 14: I'm all right mate, myself a very good thank you.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, good to, good to chat mate. I just was

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Speaker 14: gonna put down the tab and put twenty bucks on

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Speaker 14: Canada to win it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: didn't play your final this morning, but they just we

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Speaker 14: had no answer anywhere.

432
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just and from sorry sorry small David. Just,

433
00:22:08,587 --> 00:22:10,747
Speaker 2: I mean from the after twenty minutes or whenever they

434
00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:12,427
Speaker 2: scored their third try seventeen nil. I know we've got

435
00:22:12,467 --> 00:22:13,987
Speaker 2: to try straight after that. But man, they were just

436
00:22:14,107 --> 00:22:15,147
Speaker 2: out of the blocks, man.

437
00:22:16,267 --> 00:22:19,827
Speaker 14: Yeah, just, I mean we I would have expected because

438
00:22:19,867 --> 00:22:22,667
Speaker 14: we've been slow starters right through the tournament, right, I

439
00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:25,507
Speaker 14: would have expected that we would have and your previous

440
00:22:25,507 --> 00:22:30,627
Speaker 14: caller with the old spark plug analogy, it just appeared

441
00:22:30,667 --> 00:22:32,187
Speaker 14: we didn't come out of the changing roun as ready

442
00:22:32,187 --> 00:22:37,227
Speaker 14: to go. And yeah, unfortunately we ended up on the

443
00:22:37,267 --> 00:22:38,867
Speaker 14: score wasn't too bad at the end, but I would

444
00:22:38,867 --> 00:22:42,067
Speaker 14: still call it a hiding at that level. Yeah, just

445
00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:44,347
Speaker 14: I'm not too sure, not too sure what the problem was.

446
00:22:44,347 --> 00:22:48,547
Speaker 14: Georgian Miller maybe, but yeah, we just didn't We didn't

447
00:22:48,547 --> 00:22:50,747
Speaker 14: seem like we wanted to be there, mate, to be fair,

448
00:22:50,907 --> 00:22:53,827
Speaker 14: and they've done well and let's hope they get through

449
00:22:53,867 --> 00:22:58,267
Speaker 14: and get you know, get onto the podium. Yeah, it

450
00:22:58,587 --> 00:23:01,387
Speaker 14: just was it was it disappointing. I suppose it was

451
00:23:01,387 --> 00:23:02,307
Speaker 14: a little bit disappointment.

452
00:23:02,307 --> 00:23:04,027
Speaker 2: No, it was, No, it was it was. But you

453
00:23:04,107 --> 00:23:06,587
Speaker 2: got to say the right team one smally, right, I mean,

454
00:23:06,627 --> 00:23:08,787
Speaker 2: the better team won without question a.

455
00:23:09,667 --> 00:23:12,507
Speaker 14: No doubt, no doubt all and then that show probably

456
00:23:12,507 --> 00:23:14,387
Speaker 14: in the first ten to fifteen minutes that they were

457
00:23:14,747 --> 00:23:17,067
Speaker 14: they were up for it, and they came out. They

458
00:23:17,107 --> 00:23:20,627
Speaker 14: played positive footy, they kept the ball in hand, something

459
00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:24,907
Speaker 14: our men's team could learn from him. Yeah and yeah,

460
00:23:24,987 --> 00:23:27,027
Speaker 14: there was how many blocks kicks to just see in

461
00:23:27,067 --> 00:23:27,467
Speaker 14: that match?

462
00:23:27,787 --> 00:23:29,947
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see any. I wondered what game I

463
00:23:30,027 --> 00:23:31,947
Speaker 2: was watching. I did not see a single box kick.

464
00:23:31,947 --> 00:23:34,107
Speaker 2: I might have turned away. But what we had, either

465
00:23:34,107 --> 00:23:37,067
Speaker 2: we had thirty or forty last week, not a single

466
00:23:37,147 --> 00:23:38,787
Speaker 2: one fully loved it, loved it.

467
00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:42,427
Speaker 14: Tell you what. I was a forward in my day,

468
00:23:42,867 --> 00:23:46,147
Speaker 14: and if the first five were the half Beck kept

469
00:23:46,147 --> 00:23:48,347
Speaker 14: doing that sort of stuff, you would pull yourself out

470
00:23:48,347 --> 00:23:50,947
Speaker 14: of more and dragged them in and you've give them

471
00:23:50,947 --> 00:23:53,427
Speaker 14: a clip around the year and say, look, I've just

472
00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,667
Speaker 14: slaved the way to win us the ball, and all

473
00:23:55,707 --> 00:23:58,147
Speaker 14: you want to do is give it back to them.

474
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Speaker 2: Those were the days I would just I'd love to see.

475
00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:04,227
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Yeah, like I don't know two

476
00:24:04,267 --> 00:24:07,467
Speaker 2: ball vity or or already pull for like Christy into

477
00:24:07,507 --> 00:24:09,587
Speaker 2: the into the right class week you listen to mate,

478
00:24:09,747 --> 00:24:10,667
Speaker 2: don't do that anymore.

479
00:24:11,587 --> 00:24:14,067
Speaker 14: You're starting to really feed me off because every time

480
00:24:14,107 --> 00:24:16,467
Speaker 14: I w slave my guts out, you kick it back

481
00:24:16,507 --> 00:24:20,027
Speaker 14: to those buggers on the other side. Yeah, so let's

482
00:24:20,187 --> 00:24:22,027
Speaker 14: let's hope there's a bit of a turnaround, because if

483
00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:25,427
Speaker 14: the bladders like carp happens to head across the ditch,

484
00:24:26,187 --> 00:24:27,947
Speaker 14: then I think we might be looking for a coach.

485
00:24:29,827 --> 00:24:32,987
Speaker 2: No pre yeah, no PreCure, no pressure. Hey, Smally, please

486
00:24:32,987 --> 00:24:35,547
Speaker 2: call back mate. I love chatting to you. Please let's

487
00:24:35,587 --> 00:24:37,667
Speaker 2: chat again, maybe even next weekend ahead of the game

488
00:24:37,747 --> 00:24:40,507
Speaker 2: or after the game. Good to chat to my friend.

489
00:24:41,427 --> 00:24:46,187
Speaker 15: You get a pint. Yeah, it's one thing I do

490
00:24:46,307 --> 00:24:49,827
Speaker 15: love is that we're talking about footy on on the

491
00:24:50,107 --> 00:24:55,747
Speaker 15: afternoon sports show with Woman's Footy. But yeah, really really

492
00:24:55,787 --> 00:25:01,587
Speaker 15: disappointed how it all sort of went down. Really we

493
00:25:01,747 --> 00:25:07,867
Speaker 15: got absolutely spoiled, and I don't know where we go

494
00:25:08,267 --> 00:25:11,787
Speaker 15: with women's rugby here and probably with the men that

495
00:25:11,907 --> 00:25:15,107
Speaker 15: we think we can just run our way out of

496
00:25:15,547 --> 00:25:18,147
Speaker 15: a game of footy like you know, swing it wide

497
00:25:18,627 --> 00:25:22,507
Speaker 15: and you know, break a team down like Canada, like England.

498
00:25:22,667 --> 00:25:25,107
Speaker 15: Even if we got through, I don't think we would

499
00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:28,627
Speaker 15: have competed against well, assuming England get through.

500
00:25:30,507 --> 00:25:32,867
Speaker 2: Great point, Luke on a great point, mate, because I

501
00:25:32,907 --> 00:25:35,107
Speaker 2: think there's so many have come from the sevens game

502
00:25:35,187 --> 00:25:36,907
Speaker 2: that that is what you do in a game of sevens,

503
00:25:36,947 --> 00:25:39,267
Speaker 2: right you you throw it wide, you find the spaces

504
00:25:39,307 --> 00:25:41,467
Speaker 2: the where you go and look, we do have electric

505
00:25:41,547 --> 00:25:45,627
Speaker 2: outside backs. But teams have worked it out. Teams Canada

506
00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:48,227
Speaker 2: worked it out like we had Porsche, Woodman, wi Cliffe

507
00:25:48,227 --> 00:25:50,747
Speaker 2: and Braxton sirens and McGee had no space to work

508
00:25:50,787 --> 00:25:52,787
Speaker 2: with at all on the flanks this morning.

509
00:25:53,747 --> 00:25:56,147
Speaker 15: No, And we can't rely on her just you know

510
00:25:56,587 --> 00:26:00,587
Speaker 15: the speech used to Porsche. But we can't just swing

511
00:26:00,627 --> 00:26:02,147
Speaker 15: it to her and go run over top of them

512
00:26:02,187 --> 00:26:09,507
Speaker 15: because defenses are better now. And you know, the Canada

513
00:26:09,627 --> 00:26:11,987
Speaker 15: Canadian men seam probably look at the women's and go, oh,

514
00:26:12,027 --> 00:26:13,787
Speaker 15: how do we play like that? How do we read

515
00:26:13,827 --> 00:26:17,547
Speaker 15: the program in the men's game there? But you know, like, yeah,

516
00:26:17,547 --> 00:26:20,347
Speaker 15: we wouldn't have had answers next week regardless, I don't think.

517
00:26:20,427 --> 00:26:24,027
Speaker 15: And you know we've probably given the French again if

518
00:26:24,067 --> 00:26:27,747
Speaker 15: there the ones we play the blueprint to shut us

519
00:26:27,787 --> 00:26:32,507
Speaker 15: down again. But like your last border there, small, he said,

520
00:26:33,667 --> 00:26:36,387
Speaker 15: you know, the Canadians probably could teach our men how

521
00:26:36,387 --> 00:26:40,027
Speaker 15: to play, to hold on to the ball and you know,

522
00:26:40,107 --> 00:26:45,627
Speaker 15: build phases and then let you out wide through the

523
00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:50,547
Speaker 15: business at the end, you know, like a yeah, I

524
00:26:50,667 --> 00:26:52,627
Speaker 15: know it's the supported. I've got three little girls. I

525
00:26:52,707 --> 00:26:54,707
Speaker 15: sat there with one of them this morning watching it

526
00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:58,267
Speaker 15: on the phone and beard and you know, she's only

527
00:26:58,267 --> 00:26:59,827
Speaker 15: two and a half. I'm not going to push her

528
00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:02,227
Speaker 15: to rugby. If she wants to play, she will. And

529
00:27:02,267 --> 00:27:04,707
Speaker 15: I've coached a lot of women's rugby, whether it be

530
00:27:04,747 --> 00:27:09,547
Speaker 15: here in Ireland and the States. And yeah, I don't know.

531
00:27:09,867 --> 00:27:14,787
Speaker 15: I watched the Fara Parmer Cup and it's like, do

532
00:27:14,907 --> 00:27:17,147
Speaker 15: we have a team in the Fara Parmer Cup that

533
00:27:17,307 --> 00:27:21,667
Speaker 15: actually plays a solid brand of rugby that's not just

534
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:27,547
Speaker 15: ahead and hope you know like that actually, yeah, gets

535
00:27:27,587 --> 00:27:30,387
Speaker 15: down plays that ten man rugby for a little bit

536
00:27:30,987 --> 00:27:34,907
Speaker 15: and actually earns the right to throw it out wide

537
00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:39,867
Speaker 15: and school tries or just beat a team up up

538
00:27:39,907 --> 00:27:43,907
Speaker 15: the middle and who cares how you win it, I guess,

539
00:27:44,067 --> 00:27:47,907
Speaker 15: but it just is not working for us just to

540
00:27:47,947 --> 00:27:50,947
Speaker 15: constantly go out there and expect you know, the back

541
00:27:50,987 --> 00:27:54,227
Speaker 15: three to you know, finish. I'll just pass it out

542
00:27:54,267 --> 00:27:54,627
Speaker 15: into it.

543
00:27:55,147 --> 00:27:58,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, great perspective you've brought, Luke, Thanks mate. Yeah, I

544
00:27:58,187 --> 00:28:01,427
Speaker 2: hope you're yeah. I mean yeah, Look, please call back

545
00:28:01,467 --> 00:28:04,147
Speaker 2: any time, mate. I've enjoyed hearing your perspective. Hope your

546
00:28:04,227 --> 00:28:06,827
Speaker 2: daughters enjoy the rest of the weekend despite the result,

547
00:28:06,907 --> 00:28:09,307
Speaker 2: and you do too, mate, I one hundred and eighty

548
00:28:09,307 --> 00:28:12,067
Speaker 2: ten outy a few more less elder before one former

549
00:28:12,227 --> 00:28:16,267
Speaker 2: Black Fern's captain with her take. Trevor, Hi, mate, how

550
00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:19,387
Speaker 2: are you damn bunny? I'm going to callers?

551
00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:22,667
Speaker 16: Yeah cool, the previous who callers basically what I wanted

552
00:28:22,707 --> 00:28:26,587
Speaker 16: to say. But for me, this box kick that's just

553
00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:29,787
Speaker 16: killing the game, right I used to I used to

554
00:28:29,787 --> 00:28:32,987
Speaker 16: play fullback and the only time that that kick works

555
00:28:33,347 --> 00:28:36,547
Speaker 16: for you is when they're kicking it just outside you're

556
00:28:36,587 --> 00:28:39,027
Speaker 16: twenty two and you get all the pressure on you.

557
00:28:39,027 --> 00:28:41,307
Speaker 16: You can't, you know, that's where that's where the pressure

558
00:28:41,307 --> 00:28:44,067
Speaker 16: you put on the team, not outside of you, when

559
00:28:44,067 --> 00:28:46,987
Speaker 16: you're kicking from your twenty two or randomly and there's

560
00:28:46,987 --> 00:28:49,027
Speaker 16: a fifty to fifty who's going to get it? And

561
00:28:49,067 --> 00:28:51,867
Speaker 16: exactly like previous caller said that, the fours have just

562
00:28:52,347 --> 00:28:54,627
Speaker 16: won you hard Bowl and you're just giving it back.

563
00:28:54,507 --> 00:28:55,027
Speaker 9: To the opposition.

564
00:28:56,787 --> 00:28:58,747
Speaker 2: Oh, you won't get an argument from me, Trevor. You

565
00:28:58,787 --> 00:29:00,627
Speaker 2: wont you will know, you won't get an argument from me.

566
00:29:00,827 --> 00:29:03,387
Speaker 2: I just it was just stood out to me this morning.

567
00:29:03,467 --> 00:29:05,307
Speaker 2: We've talked so much about the box kick over the

568
00:29:05,387 --> 00:29:08,027
Speaker 2: last three or four weeks with regards to the All

569
00:29:08,027 --> 00:29:10,307
Speaker 2: Blacks and and how much of a part of their

570
00:29:10,907 --> 00:29:13,227
Speaker 2: strategy it is. To not see any box kicking at

571
00:29:13,227 --> 00:29:15,347
Speaker 2: all was a was a breath of fresh air.

572
00:29:15,667 --> 00:29:19,107
Speaker 16: Oh fantastic, It was fantastic. And I'll tell you what,

573
00:29:19,147 --> 00:29:22,427
Speaker 16: Doll Blacks could learn something from that, seriously, Like, you

574
00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:25,307
Speaker 16: know they strong and can get in and get the

575
00:29:25,387 --> 00:29:29,227
Speaker 16: fallback right, and it just kicking you just keep kicking away.

576
00:29:29,307 --> 00:29:32,067
Speaker 16: Was like, ah, you know, I know we've I know

577
00:29:32,107 --> 00:29:34,747
Speaker 16: we've got Will Jordan is probably the best at getting

578
00:29:34,747 --> 00:29:37,707
Speaker 16: the ball back. But that's why why why risk it

579
00:29:37,867 --> 00:29:39,827
Speaker 16: all the time when you under pressure? I mean, it's

580
00:29:39,907 --> 00:29:41,747
Speaker 16: just drives me nuts.

581
00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:47,307
Speaker 17: And I will say I will say though, I felt

582
00:29:47,347 --> 00:29:51,467
Speaker 17: for the girls today because they gave, you know, all

583
00:29:51,507 --> 00:29:52,067
Speaker 17: that energy.

584
00:29:52,067 --> 00:29:54,907
Speaker 16: They just they didn't give up for one minute, not

585
00:29:55,067 --> 00:29:57,707
Speaker 16: for one minute. But I think they're out played today.

586
00:29:58,187 --> 00:30:00,827
Speaker 16: Definitely out played today, right, Trev.

587
00:30:00,787 --> 00:30:02,707
Speaker 2: That that last but yours you're so right mate, in

588
00:30:02,787 --> 00:30:05,507
Speaker 2: terms of the effort they did not give up, and

589
00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:07,827
Speaker 2: that space level for anyone who plays for New Zealand.

590
00:30:07,907 --> 00:30:10,147
Speaker 2: For me anyway, you do not give up, regardless of

591
00:30:10,187 --> 00:30:12,147
Speaker 2: the score, and they didn't. They were still going at

592
00:30:12,187 --> 00:30:13,987
Speaker 2: the end, giving it everything, and you could tell how

593
00:30:14,027 --> 00:30:17,027
Speaker 2: devastated they were. Good to chat to you, mate, Thanks indeed, Mark.

594
00:30:16,947 --> 00:30:18,827
Speaker 14: Hi, how are we going, buddy?

595
00:30:18,827 --> 00:30:19,747
Speaker 8: I'm good? How are you?

596
00:30:19,987 --> 00:30:20,387
Speaker 2: I'm good?

597
00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:21,907
Speaker 8: Mate? Yep, yep.

598
00:30:21,947 --> 00:30:23,827
Speaker 18: Bar got up and watch the game, mate, And I

599
00:30:23,987 --> 00:30:27,547
Speaker 18: absolutely thoroughly enjoyed it. And I had my neighbor over

600
00:30:27,587 --> 00:30:31,507
Speaker 18: from next door and we sat there and even from

601
00:30:31,627 --> 00:30:34,187
Speaker 18: that first ten to twelve minutes, we both looked at each.

602
00:30:34,107 --> 00:30:35,067
Speaker 14: Other and said we're gone.

603
00:30:35,787 --> 00:30:39,507
Speaker 18: And you could tell straight away the Canadians were just

604
00:30:40,307 --> 00:30:43,747
Speaker 18: they were brilliant and so far, so far today you

605
00:30:43,787 --> 00:30:46,947
Speaker 18: have made the best comment yet. And you sort of

606
00:30:46,947 --> 00:30:49,467
Speaker 18: said the similar sort of thing, and all these people

607
00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:53,347
Speaker 18: ringing up and oh, I'm so disappointed and blah blah. Well,

608
00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:55,147
Speaker 18: the fact of the matter is you can't be on

609
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,187
Speaker 18: top of the world all the time. And I think

610
00:30:57,187 --> 00:31:00,107
Speaker 18: it's the best thing that's happened to woman trouby, any

611
00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:05,347
Speaker 18: rugby for a long time, to put a team out

612
00:31:05,507 --> 00:31:08,267
Speaker 18: that's been dominated it's good for it's.

613
00:31:08,107 --> 00:31:08,787
Speaker 8: Good for the game.

614
00:31:11,027 --> 00:31:13,507
Speaker 2: Mark, I totally agree. We don't want because really this

615
00:31:13,547 --> 00:31:17,107
Speaker 2: World Cup hasn't really started until now. You know, even

616
00:31:17,107 --> 00:31:19,907
Speaker 2: the quarter finals that were that were for a time competitive.

617
00:31:19,987 --> 00:31:22,387
Speaker 2: You know, the Black Ferns sort of had to work

618
00:31:22,387 --> 00:31:24,347
Speaker 2: for a bit in the first half against South Africa,

619
00:31:24,387 --> 00:31:27,867
Speaker 2: but always one going away. You know, Canada far too

620
00:31:27,907 --> 00:31:30,827
Speaker 2: good for Australia. We can't just have four good teams,

621
00:31:31,227 --> 00:31:32,987
Speaker 2: you know, we can't just have a very small number

622
00:31:33,027 --> 00:31:35,467
Speaker 2: of competitive teams if we want the game to grow.

623
00:31:35,867 --> 00:31:38,947
Speaker 2: So look, we should yeah, well yeah, while we're disappointed

624
00:31:39,307 --> 00:31:42,707
Speaker 2: about the Black Ferns losing to Canada, we should we

625
00:31:42,747 --> 00:31:47,027
Speaker 2: should really admire what Canada have done. No men's program

626
00:31:47,027 --> 00:31:49,827
Speaker 2: to speak of in that country. The women's fifteen program

627
00:31:49,827 --> 00:31:52,867
Speaker 2: has grown largely out of their sevens program, but has

628
00:31:52,907 --> 00:31:55,947
Speaker 2: been given resource, but not that much resource. Because I'm

629
00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:58,347
Speaker 2: sure you've heard this as well, that team had to

630
00:31:58,427 --> 00:32:02,027
Speaker 2: crowdfund to get to the tournament. They had to raise

631
00:32:02,147 --> 00:32:07,467
Speaker 2: money themselves. Let's hope that their national union recognizes what

632
00:32:07,507 --> 00:32:11,627
Speaker 2: they have done. Good to check Mark, Hi, Dave, Hello.

633
00:32:11,627 --> 00:32:16,507
Speaker 19: Barn Next Saturday's final is going to be brilliant.

634
00:32:16,987 --> 00:32:17,267
Speaker 12: You have.

635
00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:24,667
Speaker 19: You've got the England Juggernauts against the Canadians and it

636
00:32:24,707 --> 00:32:26,627
Speaker 19: will be an absolute cracker.

637
00:32:27,147 --> 00:32:31,067
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, I can't wait. It's interesting day.

638
00:32:31,067 --> 00:32:32,787
Speaker 2: If you've already got England in the final, I think

639
00:32:32,787 --> 00:32:36,627
Speaker 2: you're probably right, though I know a lot.

640
00:32:36,787 --> 00:32:38,147
Speaker 14: I tell them.

641
00:32:39,507 --> 00:32:44,227
Speaker 19: All the blokes here, England calendar right from the beginning

642
00:32:45,667 --> 00:32:50,587
Speaker 19: they'd get to the final and the way here calendar played.

643
00:32:50,627 --> 00:32:57,027
Speaker 19: And rarely speaking, if you think New Zealand, the warning

644
00:32:57,187 --> 00:33:01,867
Speaker 19: signs to me were there against South Africa, I mean

645
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Speaker 19: that first half of that much. The Keywis were absolutely

646
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Speaker 19: thrushed with it. But of course they grew up in

647
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Speaker 19: second out. But once they're mingling forward, get going forward,

648
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Speaker 19: it's going to be look great to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, I know you'll enjoy it. Mate, got a

650
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Speaker 2: couple more calls to get to, but good on you

651
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Speaker 2: and I look, I think we can all accept that

652
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Speaker 2: England are firm favorites tonight against France. It would take

653
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Speaker 2: a monumental reversal of fortune for England not to get through.

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Speaker 2: So England Canada, I think you're right. We'll have the

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Speaker 2: two best teams in the final without a doubt. Can

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Speaker 2: I Mark.

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Speaker 17: Hey Pany. You know, I'm quite interested in you talk

658
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Speaker 17: to do with the Japan South Africa. I think someone

659
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Speaker 17: should actually start a podcast with it, games playing on

660
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Speaker 17: Replete so he could sort of it as a rugby

661
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Speaker 17: fan player for ourselves and get some sleep at night,

662
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Speaker 17: you know, after these big losses. I'm not an expert

663
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Speaker 17: on woman's rugby, but you know, and the fact that Canada,

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Speaker 17: you sit, had the crowd fun to get to the

665
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Speaker 17: World Cup is almost a bit sad, but you know,

666
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Speaker 17: bloody good on them, to be honest, I think England

667
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Speaker 17: so dominant, I'd be very surprised if Canada beat them,

668
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Speaker 17: to be honest that you know, the Affords are just yeah,

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Speaker 17: and I think they're probably the only true real professional

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Speaker 17: team in rugby. I think with New Zealand we suffer

671
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Speaker 17: from the fact that our players almost have to use

672
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Speaker 17: an awful word, but aul themselves around the world to

673
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Speaker 17: make a living at rugby, you know, and it's not

674
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Speaker 17: like the men's game where we're so focused on the

675
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Speaker 17: World Cup and that's what everything is almost geared towards.

676
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Speaker 17: They've got to hustle all over the place and you know,

677
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Speaker 17: getting into tend together at the end and like Wayne

678
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Speaker 17: Swift did an amazing job at the last World Cup.

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Speaker 17: But I mean you've also got to remember that England

680
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Speaker 17: played with fourteen players during that game. But I think

681
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Speaker 17: the organization, Yeah, it's just not the same focus on

682
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Speaker 17: the World Cup as probably the men's team has.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point and this will be the

684
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Speaker 2: catalyst I'm sure for some examination of that. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: your call. Make got to move at sixteen away from one.

686
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Speaker 2: Les Elder, former Black fernd's captain, with her take after

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Speaker 2: this don't.

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Speaker 1: Get caught offside eighty eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pin

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Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Dogs.

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Speaker 2: MB News Dogs. Les Elder twenty two tests for New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: captain the side and won the World Cup in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Now a rugby commentator and analyst with Sky Sport. At

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Speaker 2: least can we start with Canada? How good were they?

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Speaker 10: Well, you have to start with Canada, right, because they

695
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Speaker 10: were just too good. They outplayed us. They I actually

696
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Speaker 10: think we were out coached as well. Their game plan was,

697
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Speaker 10: you know, everything that you'd expect from the Black Friends.

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Speaker 10: They canceled it out and then they executed it on

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Speaker 10: the side of the board.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk a bit more about that in terms

701
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Speaker 2: of the game plan Canada came with on both sides

702
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Speaker 2: of the ball. What did you see from them that

703
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Speaker 2: was particularly effective.

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Speaker 10: They flooded the edges, which is where we gain a

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Speaker 10: lot of our track and momentum. Right, We've got outstanding

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Speaker 10: outside backs and we create momentum on the edge of

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Speaker 10: the fields. They shut that down, and when they shut

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Speaker 10: that down, it means we need to adapt, and I

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Speaker 10: don't think we adapted fast enough. We did adapt at

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Speaker 10: the start of the second half by playing through the

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Speaker 10: middle of the field with our pick and goes and

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Speaker 10: our boards going to work, but it was probably an

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Speaker 10: adaptation that came a little bit too late.

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Speaker 2: And with ball in hand for Canada. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the Black Ferns were caught out in any way by

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Speaker 2: how high tempo the Canadian game plan was.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we were actually and I think we

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Speaker 10: were very mindful of their outside backs because they've got

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Speaker 10: some speedsters. Mikaela break off camera told us that Asia

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Speaker 10: Hogan Rochester is as fast as her, so that means

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Speaker 10: they're all faster than the Black ferns because Mikayla is

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Speaker 10: one of the fastest in New Zealand, so I think

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Speaker 10: maybe because we were aware of that speed and flare

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Speaker 10: out wide, it changed how we defended internally and they

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Speaker 10: took the opportunities there. And that's why justin the halfback

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Speaker 10: that Pelipier had such a great game because she's seen

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Speaker 10: our defense fanning and then she took up opportunities and

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Speaker 10: gaps through the middle.

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Speaker 2: There were also a number of handling errors from the

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Speaker 2: black Ferns that's uncharacteristic. Really Was that a result of

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Speaker 2: the on field and scoreboard pressure Canada built?

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Speaker 10: Quite possibly we have seen a little bit so riddled

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Speaker 10: through the black Ferns throughout the i'd say the past year.

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Speaker 10: They did seem to capitalize on that in some of

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Speaker 10: these later games, but let's be frank, we weren't tested

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Speaker 10: other than the half against South Africa. We haven't been

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Speaker 10: tested by quality side this Rugby World Cup. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: that pressure, not only the pressure that Canada applied on

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Speaker 10: us defensively done things to our attack, but also chasing

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Speaker 10: such a score line, right, we started too slow. They

741
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Speaker 10: put seventeen points on us and we were chasing the

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Speaker 10: clock for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Would Georgia Miller have made a significant difference?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I do think so. It's what she creates on

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Speaker 10: the edge of the field. And like I said, they

746
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Speaker 10: shut down our edge. But imagine if we had Georgia

747
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Speaker 10: out there, it could have played games with their defense.

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Speaker 10: At least she would have beaten the first defender. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I think losing her was a massive loss.

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Speaker 2: You talked there as well about not being tested up

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Speaker 2: until now in the tournament. The same goes for Canada though,

752
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Speaker 2: les you know, they sort of rolled through Paul play

753
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Speaker 2: put forty odd on Australia. How were they able to

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Speaker 2: keep their standards nice and high despite the fact they

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Speaker 2: weren't really tested either.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a good point you make that, and I

757
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Speaker 10: think again it just comes down to the quality of

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Speaker 10: the team, the quality of the coaching, the game plan

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Speaker 10: that they executed. We heard Porsha Woodman Wickliffe post game say,

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Speaker 10: we knew the game plan they were going to bring.

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Speaker 10: We knew what they were going to do. Unlike Canada,

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Speaker 10: though they didn't shut them, We didn't shut them down

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Speaker 10: knowing that game plan. So again, I'm not going to

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Speaker 10: take away from Canada. They outplayed us. They executed a

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Speaker 10: great game plan.

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Speaker 2: So the Black Ferns will now play off the third

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Speaker 2: and fourth a game nobody, I'm sure once you reach

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Speaker 2: the semis once to be involved. And how challenging will

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Speaker 2: it be to get up for another game?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, it's going to be tough. But like I

771
00:39:12,787 --> 00:39:15,227
Speaker 10: said on air, for hours to soak it all in,

772
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Speaker 10: you've got to feel it. You've got to hurt it,

773
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Speaker 10: you know, feel the hurt. But you've got to go

774
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Speaker 10: again because that's that's your job. That's what you've got

775
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Speaker 10: to do. You don't pick and choose which moment she's

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Speaker 10: turned up for. So they'll one flick the switch and

777
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Speaker 10: they'll go again because they have to.

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Speaker 2: The end of a World Cup cycle always sees the

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Speaker 2: changing of the guard in some respects, and we know

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Speaker 2: that we're likely not going to see Porsia, Woodman Wickcliffe

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Speaker 2: again beyond this World Cup obviously and maybe some others too.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect a reinvigoration of the playing group now, Well.

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Speaker 10: I think looking at the positives of it, they have

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Speaker 10: the coaching group have done quite a good job at

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Speaker 10: bringing some depth into the side, right, So there are

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Speaker 10: players that didn't even make this World Cup still at

787
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Speaker 10: home who are young in their early twenties. Those girls

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Speaker 10: will start featuring in the coming years. So I think, yes,

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Speaker 10: we're going to see so the exodus of some players,

790
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Speaker 10: but we're going to see I think more young Braxton

791
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Speaker 10: Thornton McGee's turn up on our tellies as well.

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Speaker 2: Could Canada win the World Cup?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, and I hope they do. The reason why I

794
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Speaker 10: hope they do obviously the long rivalry with England just

795
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Speaker 10: sort of still sits there as an old player, but

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Speaker 10: Canada have the semi professional On top of that, they

797
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Speaker 10: don't have the legacy of the infrastructure of a men's game.

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Speaker 10: New Zealand has a strong men's program, France has a

799
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Speaker 10: strong men's program, England have a strong men's program. Canada's

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Speaker 10: men's team and you know, we don't know much about

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Speaker 10: them leant to be honest, so they have created what

802
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Speaker 10: they have created. This women's team have created this of

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Speaker 10: their own back and to me is a proud female

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Speaker 10: rugby player and supporter of the women's game. It shows

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Speaker 10: how women can do it on their terms.

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Speaker 2: Layers have really enjoyed your analysis across the tournament on

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Speaker 2: Sky and here this afternoon. Thanks for taking our call,

808
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Speaker 2: no problems, thanks for having me, no thanks for job.

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Speaker 2: There's Elder, their former Black firm's captain. Seven to one

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Speaker 2: coming up three to one on Weekend Sport from Joe

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Speaker 2: on text, Joe here caught a Canadian. Go Canada. Good

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Speaker 2: on you, Joe. Yeah, I think we'll all be looking

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Speaker 2: for Canadian heritage to cheer them on. In next Sunday

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Speaker 2: Mornings final Tonight, the second semi is between England and France.

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Speaker 2: After one o'clock. Kyle Jamieson's on the show back in

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Speaker 2: the Black Aps, looking forward to catching up with Kyle

817
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Speaker 2: and Hayden Padden back in New Zealand for the Ashley

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Speaker 2: Forest Rally Sprints.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 1: Vade on your home of Sports News Talks.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EB. This is Weekend Sport one O seven.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald produces the show where heads

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Speaker 2: all three, a couple of things to mop up, a

825
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Speaker 2: couple of really good texts. At the back end of

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Speaker 2: last hour, Hi, Jason, says Brett, I sincerely hope you

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Speaker 2: all Blacks coaches watched the Canadian women's game plan very

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Speaker 2: very reminiscence of the All Black style from the nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven World Cup. Super fast rock speed two point

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Speaker 2: three seconds, says Brett, giving the opposition no chance to

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Speaker 2: organize on defense. Thanks Brett, and Bo says afternoon piney. Well, mate,

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Speaker 2: I asked my mate yesterday to put a multi bed

833
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Speaker 2: on for me. He thought I was mad, says Bo.

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Speaker 2: When my bet starts with a Canadian win, now just

835
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Speaker 2: two to go. The Wallabies to win the next two

836
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Speaker 2: against the All Blacks. Now before you laugh, says Bo.

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Speaker 2: If they win at the Fortress, then they play a

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Speaker 2: sold out venue. In Australia, the word of the day

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Speaker 2: is believe Bo. I hope, I hope you're wrong. I

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Speaker 2: mean I hope for your sake and only your sake,

841
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Speaker 2: that you're right, because you'll be collecting if you've got

842
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Speaker 2: a malty on Canada, the Wallabies and the Wallabies Texas

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Speaker 2: back mate, what did you get? What odds did you get?

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Speaker 8: Goodness?

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Speaker 2: May I can't imagine the show we loose the next

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Speaker 2: two weekends. By the way, have to tell you next

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Speaker 2: weekend ahead of the Bledisloe Cup, Test, which is a

848
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Speaker 2: five o'clock kickoff at Eden Park. For the first time ever,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks are bringing an epic sky fan zone

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Speaker 2: to the Kennids Outer Oval at Eden Park. That's the

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Speaker 2: that's Eden Park number two where they used to play cricket.

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Speaker 2: Don't they play there anymore? You know, just the outside field.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a sky fan zone there, food trucks, bars,

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Speaker 2: interactive fun, homegrown, headline acts, DJ Clinton, Roberts, What a Man,

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Speaker 2: Ala Monterey and Kings bringing the energy. The fan zone

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Speaker 2: opens at one forty five next Saturday, ahead of a

857
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Speaker 2: family friendly All Blacks kickoff at five past five. Ticket

858
00:43:53,707 --> 00:43:58,307
Speaker 2: Holders can enjoy it pre and post match. It's exclusive

859
00:43:58,307 --> 00:43:59,747
Speaker 2: to ticket holders, so you've got to have a ticket

860
00:43:59,747 --> 00:44:02,267
Speaker 2: to the game to go. But the fan zone is

861
00:44:02,347 --> 00:44:05,827
Speaker 2: open from one forty five. Now, if you don't have

862
00:44:05,867 --> 00:44:08,067
Speaker 2: a ticket, we might even be able to help you

863
00:44:08,107 --> 00:44:11,427
Speaker 2: out there. We have a double pass to give away,

864
00:44:12,027 --> 00:44:14,547
Speaker 2: not just to the fan zone, but to the game,

865
00:44:15,267 --> 00:44:19,667
Speaker 2: a double pass to next Saturdays led Uslow Cup Test

866
00:44:19,667 --> 00:44:22,507
Speaker 2: at Eden Park. We cannot get you to Auckland. We

867
00:44:22,587 --> 00:44:25,587
Speaker 2: can't get you to the game. It's just the tickets.

868
00:44:25,667 --> 00:44:28,307
Speaker 2: So if you can get to the game. Here's what

869
00:44:28,347 --> 00:44:30,187
Speaker 2: you have to do. You have to text the word

870
00:44:30,387 --> 00:44:34,147
Speaker 2: bled uslow to nine two nine to two. That's our

871
00:44:34,187 --> 00:44:36,747
Speaker 2: text line. Here it said bzbzb nine two nine two.

872
00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:40,067
Speaker 2: Text the word bled uslow. Now I mentioned this last hour,

873
00:44:40,067 --> 00:44:41,987
Speaker 2: but if you're just joining us, or even if you

874
00:44:42,067 --> 00:44:44,627
Speaker 2: heard it last hour, I must stress this. You've got

875
00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:48,027
Speaker 2: to spell it right. Okay, You've got a spell bled

876
00:44:48,107 --> 00:44:51,347
Speaker 2: us slow correctly on your text, otherwise it doesn't go

877
00:44:51,427 --> 00:44:54,707
Speaker 2: into the right place. We've got it. It's all. Look,

878
00:44:54,747 --> 00:44:56,187
Speaker 2: I don't know how it works, but our texts have

879
00:44:56,267 --> 00:44:58,627
Speaker 2: got it set up so that if you text bled uslow,

880
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,667
Speaker 2: it lands in the correct place into a virtual bowl

881
00:45:01,747 --> 00:45:04,547
Speaker 2: of entries, if you like. If you spell it wrong,

882
00:45:04,587 --> 00:45:06,747
Speaker 2: it doesn't make it. It goes somewhere else. In fact, it

883
00:45:06,747 --> 00:45:10,027
Speaker 2: comes to the normal text machine. And I can tell

884
00:45:10,067 --> 00:45:12,347
Speaker 2: you how many was it andy last hour? How many

885
00:45:12,387 --> 00:45:14,947
Speaker 2: wrongly spelt bled uslows did we get? Yeah?

886
00:45:14,987 --> 00:45:18,707
Speaker 13: Currently, finally we're sitting on eighty seven incorrectly spelt bletterslows,

887
00:45:18,827 --> 00:45:26,307
Speaker 13: including some including some absolute doozies like bleeds well and

888
00:45:26,307 --> 00:45:31,947
Speaker 13: and vesical was was might be might be my favorite one?

889
00:45:32,427 --> 00:45:36,187
Speaker 13: Vesical vesical LeAnn, Oh, that might just be someone saying

890
00:45:36,187 --> 00:45:38,867
Speaker 13: their name. So a lot of bledzo's as well.

891
00:45:39,227 --> 00:45:42,067
Speaker 2: Either. All right, you gotta spell it right, okay, So

892
00:45:42,587 --> 00:45:44,627
Speaker 2: here's how it's spelled. Okay, type of it. So I'm

893
00:45:44,627 --> 00:45:49,027
Speaker 2: saying it b l E d I s l o E.

894
00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:53,347
Speaker 2: That's it. Bled uslow. See already, since I've been talking,

895
00:45:53,387 --> 00:45:56,187
Speaker 2: I've got three four five, I've got five incorrect ones already.

896
00:45:56,547 --> 00:45:57,867
Speaker 2: Just you know, type it in.

897
00:45:58,107 --> 00:46:02,827
Speaker 13: I founded bespoon piney Okay, glitter slow. I think someone

898
00:46:02,907 --> 00:46:08,107
Speaker 13: must have done done voice voice recognition and that didn't

899
00:46:08,147 --> 00:46:11,667
Speaker 13: pack up the accent. But that's if you can misspell

900
00:46:11,667 --> 00:46:13,707
Speaker 13: a better than glitter slow, you might you might almost

901
00:46:13,707 --> 00:46:14,787
Speaker 13: get a consolation prize.

902
00:46:14,787 --> 00:46:15,187
Speaker 7: At this rate.

903
00:46:16,027 --> 00:46:17,787
Speaker 2: We should actually do that one day. We should we

904
00:46:17,787 --> 00:46:20,187
Speaker 2: should do a competition like this and the most creative

905
00:46:20,307 --> 00:46:23,147
Speaker 2: misspelling of the word gets a prize.

906
00:46:24,867 --> 00:46:27,067
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, it'd be pretty hard to be more

907
00:46:27,267 --> 00:46:29,307
Speaker 13: more creatively misspelled than glitter slow.

908
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:33,427
Speaker 2: Glitter slow. Bled uslow is the word bled uslow. Text

909
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:35,187
Speaker 2: it to nine two ninety two to be into in

910
00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:37,747
Speaker 2: a double pass to next Saturday's game at Edon Park,

911
00:46:37,787 --> 00:46:41,107
Speaker 2: including entry into the sky fan Zone and we're going

912
00:46:41,187 --> 00:46:42,827
Speaker 2: to be there too. We're going to be at the

913
00:46:42,827 --> 00:46:46,027
Speaker 2: sky Fan Zone. I think I've got this right. I'm

914
00:46:46,067 --> 00:46:48,027
Speaker 2: pretty sure I have. We went You might have remembered

915
00:46:48,027 --> 00:46:49,787
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago when we played South Africa

916
00:46:49,827 --> 00:46:52,267
Speaker 2: at Eton Park. We did the show from the Kingslander

917
00:46:52,907 --> 00:46:54,867
Speaker 2: on New North Road. It was so good there. I

918
00:46:54,907 --> 00:46:56,667
Speaker 2: said to our bosses can we go back there for

919
00:46:56,667 --> 00:46:58,947
Speaker 2: the Bledisloe Cup and they said yeah, well if they'll

920
00:46:58,947 --> 00:47:00,627
Speaker 2: have us, and I've said, yeah, you can come back.

921
00:47:00,627 --> 00:47:03,027
Speaker 2: So we're going to go back there to do twelve

922
00:47:03,067 --> 00:47:07,187
Speaker 2: to three, the normal weekend sports show from the Kingsland,

923
00:47:07,347 --> 00:47:09,507
Speaker 2: and then at three o'clock we're going to sit round

924
00:47:09,547 --> 00:47:12,467
Speaker 2: and do from three o'clock to five o'clock on z

925
00:47:12,627 --> 00:47:15,787
Speaker 2: B from the sky fan Zone, which leads straight into

926
00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:19,907
Speaker 2: Kickoff with Elliott Smith and Ant Strawn. So basically you're

927
00:47:19,907 --> 00:47:21,867
Speaker 2: going to get a five hour build up to the

928
00:47:21,947 --> 00:47:24,307
Speaker 2: rugby next week. Can't wait? How good is that going

929
00:47:24,347 --> 00:47:26,947
Speaker 2: to be? Bled Uslow Text bled Uslow to nine two

930
00:47:27,067 --> 00:47:28,787
Speaker 2: ninety two to get a double pass or to be

931
00:47:28,827 --> 00:47:30,787
Speaker 2: in the drawer to win one, and you can join

932
00:47:30,867 --> 00:47:33,227
Speaker 2: us at the sky Fan Zone and at Eden Park

933
00:47:33,427 --> 00:47:38,427
Speaker 2: next Saturday. Right, let's move It's thirteen past one. The

934
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Speaker 2: black Caps pace bowling stocks have been bolstered for the

935
00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:45,227
Speaker 2: upcoming Chapel had Lee T twenty series against Australia at

936
00:47:45,227 --> 00:47:48,467
Speaker 2: bay Oval in the first week of October. Jamison is

937
00:47:48,467 --> 00:47:49,827
Speaker 2: then outside the line of Offstar.

938
00:47:50,027 --> 00:47:51,987
Speaker 20: Has he been taken at third slip?

939
00:47:52,027 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 2: That must be Tim Salvey.

940
00:47:53,627 --> 00:47:56,147
Speaker 15: Terrific strike from Jamison.

941
00:47:55,747 --> 00:47:57,587
Speaker 21: So he's got in the stuff as Jamison appeal for

942
00:47:57,667 --> 00:47:59,227
Speaker 21: LBW and he's given.

943
00:47:59,667 --> 00:48:03,267
Speaker 2: He's got there at Carley and goes Jamison. Two part court.

944
00:48:04,067 --> 00:48:10,187
Speaker 13: That's second slip outside off Jamison Jamison and he edged out.

945
00:48:10,267 --> 00:48:13,707
Speaker 2: It's caught by Ross Taylor. He has the wickets of

946
00:48:13,947 --> 00:48:14,827
Speaker 2: he Shad Shama.

947
00:48:14,987 --> 00:48:17,947
Speaker 20: Jamison approaches for his special Livery Angler listen and an

948
00:48:17,947 --> 00:48:21,587
Speaker 20: appeal for l b W W Gevin second consecutive wicket

949
00:48:22,187 --> 00:48:23,547
Speaker 20: for Carl Jamison.

950
00:48:23,907 --> 00:48:27,187
Speaker 2: Kyle Jamison's back, as is Ben Sears, joining Matt Henry,

951
00:48:27,307 --> 00:48:31,187
Speaker 2: Jacob Duffy and Zach Folks as the fast bowling options.

952
00:48:31,227 --> 00:48:34,427
Speaker 2: Ben Sears is back having recovered from a side strain,

953
00:48:34,507 --> 00:48:37,347
Speaker 2: and Kyle Jamison is now a dad, missing the recent

954
00:48:37,427 --> 00:48:40,747
Speaker 2: series in Zimbabweit to welcome the birth of he and

955
00:48:40,827 --> 00:48:43,907
Speaker 2: his partner's first child, Kyle Jamison, is with us. Let's

956
00:48:43,907 --> 00:48:46,187
Speaker 2: start there. Actually, how's parentshood going.

957
00:48:47,307 --> 00:48:49,947
Speaker 11: He's been good. Has certainly been a different well, yeah,

958
00:48:49,947 --> 00:48:52,307
Speaker 11: it gives a bit of a change of pace from what

959
00:48:52,307 --> 00:48:53,787
Speaker 11: I've been used to. But now I've been loving it.

960
00:48:53,787 --> 00:48:56,027
Speaker 11: It's been lovely to be home and yeah, and to

961
00:48:56,027 --> 00:48:58,307
Speaker 11: support my partner and just be in speaking for the

962
00:48:59,307 --> 00:49:00,427
Speaker 11: first little bit of his life.

963
00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:01,587
Speaker 8: So yeah, that's been good.

964
00:49:01,427 --> 00:49:04,907
Speaker 2: Fun top staff. Congratulations to you both. You've never played

965
00:49:04,907 --> 00:49:07,587
Speaker 2: Australia in Test or one day cricket. This will be

966
00:49:07,587 --> 00:49:09,467
Speaker 2: the first time you've played them in T twenty cricket

967
00:49:09,467 --> 00:49:12,067
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, so how much you're looking forward

968
00:49:12,107 --> 00:49:14,267
Speaker 2: to playing our closest neighbors again.

969
00:49:15,027 --> 00:49:16,347
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it will be good as off to.

970
00:49:16,427 --> 00:49:17,947
Speaker 11: Like you said, I haven't paid them in tests already

971
00:49:17,947 --> 00:49:20,707
Speaker 11: eyes yet and you know, like growing up, it's always

972
00:49:21,107 --> 00:49:22,707
Speaker 11: you know, the thing that I guess most key week

973
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:25,747
Speaker 11: crickets sort of watch and has.

974
00:49:25,907 --> 00:49:27,027
Speaker 8: Has the most eyeballs on.

975
00:49:27,147 --> 00:49:29,587
Speaker 11: So I guess to be a part of to be

976
00:49:29,667 --> 00:49:32,547
Speaker 11: part of another New Zealand Aussie series and to have

977
00:49:32,547 --> 00:49:34,147
Speaker 11: the Chapel Hadley now on the line as well, the

978
00:49:34,187 --> 00:49:36,387
Speaker 11: Ta twenties as as Yeah, I'm going.

979
00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:37,427
Speaker 2: To be called to be a part of and the

980
00:49:37,547 --> 00:49:40,067
Speaker 2: names I read about yourself, Ben Sears joining Matt Henry,

981
00:49:40,147 --> 00:49:43,947
Speaker 2: Jacob Duffy, Zach Folks. It's a pretty potent looking past

982
00:49:43,987 --> 00:49:47,747
Speaker 2: bowling quintete, isn't it. How exciting is the prospect of

983
00:49:47,787 --> 00:49:49,427
Speaker 2: bowling in tandem with those guys.

984
00:49:49,907 --> 00:49:51,867
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, we're a little bit of a taste of it,

985
00:49:51,907 --> 00:49:54,747
Speaker 11: I guess in parts over the last sort of twelve months.

986
00:49:54,747 --> 00:49:56,827
Speaker 11: But yeah, like you said, there's been a a pretty

987
00:49:57,987 --> 00:50:00,187
Speaker 11: pretty exciting sort of group of bowls in the moment.

988
00:50:00,227 --> 00:50:02,547
Speaker 11: Obviously there's a few couple of guys sitting at the

989
00:50:02,547 --> 00:50:05,267
Speaker 11: moment as well. So yeah, we've got a good, good

990
00:50:05,307 --> 00:50:07,587
Speaker 11: crop of fast balls. I think we all sort of

991
00:50:07,587 --> 00:50:10,707
Speaker 11: have l sort of own unique strengths. So you'd be

992
00:50:10,747 --> 00:50:12,747
Speaker 11: good to get in camping and to link up with

993
00:50:12,947 --> 00:50:14,867
Speaker 11: ye think up with those boys again for sure.

994
00:50:14,947 --> 00:50:16,907
Speaker 2: So this will be your first cricket since mid year.

995
00:50:16,987 --> 00:50:19,787
Speaker 2: You played in the Pakistan Super League and then the IPL.

996
00:50:19,907 --> 00:50:22,747
Speaker 2: It was a bit disrupted though, wasn't it paused because

997
00:50:22,787 --> 00:50:26,147
Speaker 2: of the unrest between Pakistan and India? Can you tell

998
00:50:26,227 --> 00:50:29,667
Speaker 2: us what that time was like, Yeah, it was.

999
00:50:29,587 --> 00:50:33,107
Speaker 11: A little bit, I guess, just sort of not really

1000
00:50:33,147 --> 00:50:35,307
Speaker 11: sure what's going on, and it was so I had

1001
00:50:35,347 --> 00:50:37,227
Speaker 11: to just sort of roll with the punches a little bit.

1002
00:50:37,267 --> 00:50:40,747
Speaker 11: But look, I love my time both in Pakistan and

1003
00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:43,147
Speaker 11: in there, and it was nice to just get I guess,

1004
00:50:43,147 --> 00:50:45,907
Speaker 11: a consistent runner cricket off the back of my last

1005
00:50:45,947 --> 00:50:48,507
Speaker 11: couple of years. So to be back in those environments

1006
00:50:48,547 --> 00:50:50,307
Speaker 11: and I love you love being back in the IPL

1007
00:50:50,347 --> 00:50:51,667
Speaker 11: and you set the back end of that tournament with

1008
00:50:51,667 --> 00:50:55,107
Speaker 11: some of those high pressure games and just fortunate that, Yeah,

1009
00:50:55,187 --> 00:50:56,747
Speaker 11: I guess the way things unfolded, I was able to

1010
00:50:56,787 --> 00:50:59,227
Speaker 11: go over there and just have a good runner cricket

1011
00:50:59,227 --> 00:51:00,387
Speaker 11: in some of those high pressure moments.

1012
00:51:00,467 --> 00:51:02,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you just tell us how that unfolded? Because

1013
00:51:02,347 --> 00:51:04,707
Speaker 2: you were playing Pakistan Super League, you came home, went

1014
00:51:04,787 --> 00:51:08,267
Speaker 2: back but to the IPL with the Punjab Kings. How

1015
00:51:08,267 --> 00:51:09,227
Speaker 2: did that all play out?

1016
00:51:10,107 --> 00:51:10,307
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1017
00:51:10,307 --> 00:51:12,947
Speaker 11: I was sort of got home from Pakistan, was obviously

1018
00:51:12,947 --> 00:51:16,027
Speaker 11: a little bit unsure around you know, if things were

1019
00:51:16,027 --> 00:51:18,427
Speaker 11: going to restart, and if they were, then I guess

1020
00:51:18,467 --> 00:51:20,787
Speaker 11: when they were going to and I hadn't been playing

1021
00:51:20,787 --> 00:51:22,787
Speaker 11: a huge amount of Pakistan and they kind of just

1022
00:51:22,827 --> 00:51:25,467
Speaker 11: said look, look, if you want to stay at home

1023
00:51:25,507 --> 00:51:27,907
Speaker 11: and not come back, then that's okay by us.

1024
00:51:27,907 --> 00:51:30,947
Speaker 8: And then so that kind of unfolding.

1025
00:51:30,987 --> 00:51:34,147
Speaker 11: About twelve hours later, the chance to go to India

1026
00:51:34,467 --> 00:51:37,067
Speaker 11: popped up, and I was still still sort of ready

1027
00:51:37,067 --> 00:51:40,027
Speaker 11: for some cricket and especially getting back to the IPL

1028
00:51:40,107 --> 00:51:42,667
Speaker 11: and being a get to the back end of that tournament. Yeah,

1029
00:51:42,667 --> 00:51:45,347
Speaker 11: it was too good, too good an opportunity to pass up.

1030
00:51:45,427 --> 00:51:48,187
Speaker 11: So yeah, a little bit of a funny one sort

1031
00:51:48,227 --> 00:51:51,187
Speaker 11: of both tournaments, but yeah, glad it kind of all

1032
00:51:51,227 --> 00:51:51,627
Speaker 11: worked out.

1033
00:51:51,827 --> 00:51:54,187
Speaker 2: And did you take Lockie Ferguson's place at Punjab?

1034
00:51:54,707 --> 00:51:55,187
Speaker 8: Yeah? I did.

1035
00:51:55,267 --> 00:51:58,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's funny how this game works sometimes, isn't it?

1036
00:51:59,387 --> 00:52:01,107
Speaker 2: You know? And so you go back over there, played

1037
00:52:01,107 --> 00:52:04,787
Speaker 2: the last four games, including the IPL Grand Final again

1038
00:52:04,867 --> 00:52:07,827
Speaker 2: for all challenges being what was that like?

1039
00:52:08,747 --> 00:52:10,227
Speaker 11: It was actually awesome, Like I loved it, Like I

1040
00:52:10,267 --> 00:52:14,347
Speaker 11: obviously had a very different experience in twenty twenty one

1041
00:52:14,387 --> 00:52:17,387
Speaker 11: when I was last last at the IPL and during

1042
00:52:17,427 --> 00:52:20,507
Speaker 11: COVID and a little bit of a I guess, yeah,

1043
00:52:20,907 --> 00:52:23,667
Speaker 11: a slightly different situation. So to go to go over there,

1044
00:52:23,667 --> 00:52:26,107
Speaker 11: I think in a far different place than I was

1045
00:52:26,147 --> 00:52:27,907
Speaker 11: sort of four years ago, and just be involved in

1046
00:52:27,907 --> 00:52:31,027
Speaker 11: those last four games are all sort of high pressure games,

1047
00:52:31,707 --> 00:52:34,547
Speaker 11: finals games, and I just loved it. I think off

1048
00:52:34,547 --> 00:52:36,427
Speaker 11: the back of probably where I was twelve months ago

1049
00:52:36,427 --> 00:52:38,147
Speaker 11: and I'm not really sure whether I was going to

1050
00:52:38,187 --> 00:52:39,907
Speaker 11: be playing cricket again, to be.

1051
00:52:39,947 --> 00:52:42,267
Speaker 8: Back in that arena and back in an IPL final.

1052
00:52:42,027 --> 00:52:43,827
Speaker 11: And just found to be really present and kind of

1053
00:52:44,267 --> 00:52:46,387
Speaker 11: just soak that up. I just absolutely loved it.

1054
00:52:46,787 --> 00:52:48,387
Speaker 2: Just tell us a bit more about that than Carle.

1055
00:52:48,627 --> 00:52:51,427
Speaker 2: The injuries you've had. Was there a point in the

1056
00:52:51,587 --> 00:52:54,027
Speaker 2: not too distant past where you thought you might not

1057
00:52:54,067 --> 00:52:54,587
Speaker 2: play again?

1058
00:52:55,707 --> 00:52:59,787
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, that was a really realistic kind of I

1059
00:52:59,787 --> 00:53:02,507
Speaker 11: guess place that I was in when I sort of

1060
00:53:03,027 --> 00:53:05,427
Speaker 11: started last year. There wasn't really huge amount of answers

1061
00:53:05,427 --> 00:53:09,187
Speaker 11: within cricket, and I was sort of staring down the

1062
00:53:09,187 --> 00:53:11,587
Speaker 11: barrel of just doing the same thing and expecting some

1063
00:53:11,627 --> 00:53:14,187
Speaker 11: different results. So I guess I was very fortunate that

1064
00:53:14,267 --> 00:53:16,907
Speaker 11: I came across some people.

1065
00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:18,907
Speaker 8: Externally that had a fair amount of.

1066
00:53:18,787 --> 00:53:22,667
Speaker 11: Answers and just went about I guess, rebuilding, rebuilding my

1067
00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:24,787
Speaker 11: body from scratch, and I guess once I sort of

1068
00:53:24,787 --> 00:53:27,987
Speaker 11: linked in with him, I was pretty optimistic that I

1069
00:53:28,027 --> 00:53:30,627
Speaker 11: was gonna have a different outcome, and yeah, it was

1070
00:53:30,627 --> 00:53:32,827
Speaker 11: sort of going to be in a better place once

1071
00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:33,507
Speaker 11: they got through that.

1072
00:53:34,227 --> 00:53:37,107
Speaker 2: Is it your Is it your lower back? What has

1073
00:53:37,147 --> 00:53:38,707
Speaker 2: caused you the most problems?

1074
00:53:39,147 --> 00:53:40,947
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, just in my love back sort of the

1075
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:44,907
Speaker 11: same sort of spot at AL four and yeah, just

1076
00:53:44,907 --> 00:53:47,307
Speaker 11: a couple of couple of stresses in there, and just

1077
00:53:47,387 --> 00:53:50,987
Speaker 11: I guess the nature of being tall and trying to

1078
00:53:51,027 --> 00:53:52,387
Speaker 11: bowl fast and trying to do all that sort of

1079
00:53:52,427 --> 00:53:54,907
Speaker 11: stuff put the pressure on there. But at the same

1080
00:53:54,947 --> 00:53:57,067
Speaker 11: time it was just, yeah, my body wasn't stacked up

1081
00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:57,707
Speaker 11: anywhere near.

1082
00:53:57,627 --> 00:53:59,987
Speaker 8: Where it needed to be. And you know, when you're

1083
00:54:00,787 --> 00:54:02,427
Speaker 8: sort of faced with I guess the pressure the.

1084
00:54:02,347 --> 00:54:04,387
Speaker 11: Fast by it didn't didn't quite hack up, but you

1085
00:54:04,547 --> 00:54:06,227
Speaker 11: certainly far a bit of place now and went back

1086
00:54:06,227 --> 00:54:09,267
Speaker 11: and rebuilt everything and fix the things that I hadn't

1087
00:54:09,307 --> 00:54:12,147
Speaker 11: done previously, and yeah, make sure we got it right

1088
00:54:12,187 --> 00:54:12,507
Speaker 11: this time.

1089
00:54:12,667 --> 00:54:15,067
Speaker 2: So you just so there were times when when the

1090
00:54:15,107 --> 00:54:18,307
Speaker 2: advice you were getting was, hey, this isn't working. We're

1091
00:54:18,307 --> 00:54:21,547
Speaker 2: doing the same things, nothing's changing. So what you just

1092
00:54:21,627 --> 00:54:25,187
Speaker 2: basically refuse to accept that and just sought a different

1093
00:54:25,227 --> 00:54:28,227
Speaker 2: type of advice. And lucky you did, because here we are.

1094
00:54:29,387 --> 00:54:30,547
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I always had a bit of a

1095
00:54:30,587 --> 00:54:32,787
Speaker 11: gut feeling that there was there was more out there.

1096
00:54:33,187 --> 00:54:35,387
Speaker 11: And I don't know why I did, but I just

1097
00:54:35,427 --> 00:54:37,907
Speaker 11: felt like there was just something I was missing and

1098
00:54:37,987 --> 00:54:41,227
Speaker 11: we kind of, you know, through the previous rehabs, it

1099
00:54:41,387 --> 00:54:44,027
Speaker 11: was rest and then but just build up and do

1100
00:54:44,067 --> 00:54:46,787
Speaker 11: the same thing. There was never any real focus on

1101
00:54:46,827 --> 00:54:50,827
Speaker 11: trying to fix anything or find any answers. And this

1102
00:54:50,907 --> 00:54:53,387
Speaker 11: time around to kind of, you know, when there wasn't

1103
00:54:53,427 --> 00:54:55,107
Speaker 11: really too much on the table to change, I sort

1104
00:54:55,107 --> 00:54:57,707
Speaker 11: of felt like it was a good opportunity to try

1105
00:54:57,747 --> 00:55:01,467
Speaker 11: and just seek seek some different advice. And once I did,

1106
00:55:01,467 --> 00:55:04,507
Speaker 11: there was you know, a whole heap of arts and

1107
00:55:04,547 --> 00:55:06,827
Speaker 11: solutions on the table that just made a whole lot

1108
00:55:06,867 --> 00:55:07,347
Speaker 11: of sense to me.

1109
00:55:07,467 --> 00:55:10,187
Speaker 8: So some embarked on that and kind.

1110
00:55:10,027 --> 00:55:12,187
Speaker 11: Of, week by week each each time I sort of

1111
00:55:12,307 --> 00:55:15,187
Speaker 11: I went through that process, I sort of, I guess,

1112
00:55:15,387 --> 00:55:18,467
Speaker 11: grew in belief that there actually was a fair amount

1113
00:55:18,467 --> 00:55:19,827
Speaker 11: of arts out there, and as long as I sort

1114
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:21,747
Speaker 11: of put the work in them and did all the

1115
00:55:21,787 --> 00:55:22,547
Speaker 11: right things.

1116
00:55:22,267 --> 00:55:24,627
Speaker 8: That there was a fairly good chance I'll be back

1117
00:55:24,627 --> 00:55:27,307
Speaker 8: in a far bit of place. So yeah, certainly glad

1118
00:55:27,347 --> 00:55:29,387
Speaker 8: I found that at the point I did.

1119
00:55:29,547 --> 00:55:33,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you had to make changes to your bowling action, Yeah.

1120
00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:34,067
Speaker 8: A little bit.

1121
00:55:34,107 --> 00:55:35,587
Speaker 11: I mean it was kind of I think things that

1122
00:55:35,707 --> 00:55:39,507
Speaker 11: probably changed just naturally through some of the stuff I

1123
00:55:39,547 --> 00:55:41,107
Speaker 11: had to do. I guess in terms of changing the

1124
00:55:41,147 --> 00:55:44,547
Speaker 11: sort of foundation of my body a little bit, there's been.

1125
00:55:45,107 --> 00:55:46,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, probably some changes.

1126
00:55:46,267 --> 00:55:47,827
Speaker 11: If you if you go back and have a little

1127
00:55:47,827 --> 00:55:51,307
Speaker 11: bit look at the footage, but not drastically. I think

1128
00:55:51,347 --> 00:55:53,747
Speaker 11: it's just how I used my body and I guess

1129
00:55:53,787 --> 00:55:55,907
Speaker 11: to the maximum effect and not trying to I guess,

1130
00:55:56,587 --> 00:55:58,787
Speaker 11: find ways to compensate or putting extratress in my body

1131
00:55:58,787 --> 00:55:59,427
Speaker 11: that I don't.

1132
00:55:59,227 --> 00:55:59,667
Speaker 8: Need to eat.

1133
00:56:00,387 --> 00:56:02,827
Speaker 2: How did you deal with the most frustrating times?

1134
00:56:06,587 --> 00:56:07,307
Speaker 8: That's a great question.

1135
00:56:07,427 --> 00:56:10,187
Speaker 11: It certainly had to sort of grip my teeth at times,

1136
00:56:10,187 --> 00:56:13,347
Speaker 11: and yeah, it wasn't It wasn't easy by any means,

1137
00:56:13,387 --> 00:56:16,867
Speaker 11: but it was just sort of focusing on the on

1138
00:56:16,947 --> 00:56:20,467
Speaker 11: the endpoint, I want to get that plan and I

1139
00:56:20,507 --> 00:56:21,027
Speaker 11: didn't want to.

1140
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:24,027
Speaker 8: Be I guess done with cricket. I didn't want to

1141
00:56:24,067 --> 00:56:24,947
Speaker 8: be it's the first.

1142
00:56:24,747 --> 00:56:28,507
Speaker 11: Person to sort of have the surgery and it not works.

1143
00:56:28,587 --> 00:56:33,307
Speaker 8: So yeah, there was certainly some.

1144
00:56:31,867 --> 00:56:35,347
Speaker 11: Some emotions as that are tied into the motivational piece,

1145
00:56:35,387 --> 00:56:37,467
Speaker 11: but it wasn't wasn't easy by any means.

1146
00:56:37,587 --> 00:56:40,067
Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you back. And what are

1147
00:56:40,067 --> 00:56:42,507
Speaker 2: you now? Thirty nearly thirty one, so you must feel

1148
00:56:42,507 --> 00:56:43,947
Speaker 2: as though you've still got a few years left.

1149
00:56:44,787 --> 00:56:47,827
Speaker 11: Yeah for sure, I mean it feels like thirty now,

1150
00:56:47,947 --> 00:56:50,107
Speaker 11: but I've sort of also had two years of cricket

1151
00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:53,387
Speaker 11: where haven't I guess had had any years on the body.

1152
00:56:53,467 --> 00:56:56,067
Speaker 8: So now I still feel like I got a fair fair.

1153
00:56:55,867 --> 00:56:57,707
Speaker 11: Amount of hit me and got a really good team

1154
00:56:57,747 --> 00:57:00,507
Speaker 11: and really good system in place. Now that I feel

1155
00:57:00,507 --> 00:57:02,827
Speaker 11: like I will support my I guess body moving forward,

1156
00:57:02,907 --> 00:57:04,987
Speaker 11: so lots less than the tank for sure.

1157
00:57:05,107 --> 00:57:07,267
Speaker 2: That's great now. And I was going to ask you

1158
00:57:07,267 --> 00:57:09,587
Speaker 2: about Test cricket as well. I mean your Test cricket

1159
00:57:09,627 --> 00:57:13,467
Speaker 2: records just brilliant. Eighty wickets and those nineteen Tests at

1160
00:57:13,587 --> 00:57:18,067
Speaker 2: nineteen five five wicket bags at eleven wicket haul against Pakistan,

1161
00:57:18,467 --> 00:57:21,187
Speaker 2: fifty wickets in your ninth Test. But you haven't played

1162
00:57:21,227 --> 00:57:22,947
Speaker 2: Test cricket for a while, in fact, no red ball

1163
00:57:22,987 --> 00:57:25,347
Speaker 2: cricket that I can see since February twenty twenty four.

1164
00:57:25,587 --> 00:57:29,387
Speaker 2: So do you still have strong red ball ambitions?

1165
00:57:29,667 --> 00:57:29,907
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1166
00:57:29,907 --> 00:57:31,427
Speaker 11: For sure, I mean like a little bit of it

1167
00:57:31,467 --> 00:57:33,867
Speaker 11: has been due to the schedule. Like I only started

1168
00:57:33,867 --> 00:57:36,307
Speaker 11: playing around the super smass times. There wasn't much red

1169
00:57:36,307 --> 00:57:39,107
Speaker 11: ball cricket when I've been back playing since the start

1170
00:57:39,107 --> 00:57:39,507
Speaker 11: of the year.

1171
00:57:39,547 --> 00:57:41,467
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's certainly on the table.

1172
00:57:41,507 --> 00:57:43,627
Speaker 11: It's like I'm more of a chance than I would

1173
00:57:43,627 --> 00:57:45,467
Speaker 11: have been if I hadn't followed the path that I have.

1174
00:57:45,667 --> 00:57:48,747
Speaker 11: So look, it's on the table. It's just making sure

1175
00:57:48,747 --> 00:57:51,307
Speaker 11: we did it in a smart way and not just

1176
00:57:51,427 --> 00:57:53,987
Speaker 11: rush rush back because we want to win games right now.

1177
00:57:54,027 --> 00:57:57,387
Speaker 11: So yeah, on the table for sure, and that's something

1178
00:57:57,427 --> 00:58:00,547
Speaker 11: that I'm definitely working towards and just when it is

1179
00:58:00,587 --> 00:58:01,267
Speaker 11: worth to wait and see.

1180
00:58:01,347 --> 00:58:04,587
Speaker 2: So might we see you possibly in December against the

1181
00:58:04,627 --> 00:58:05,187
Speaker 2: West Indies.

1182
00:58:06,587 --> 00:58:08,827
Speaker 11: Possibly, Yeah, possibly. We're just seeing sort of week to

1183
00:58:08,867 --> 00:58:10,907
Speaker 11: week at the moment, and then that's the I guess.

1184
00:58:10,907 --> 00:58:12,947
Speaker 11: The plan is to is to work back to red

1185
00:58:12,947 --> 00:58:15,747
Speaker 11: ball cricket, and that's I guess. I guess, yeah, the

1186
00:58:15,747 --> 00:58:18,627
Speaker 11: path at the moment, But where that spits out, we'll

1187
00:58:18,667 --> 00:58:19,347
Speaker 11: just have to wait and see.

1188
00:58:19,507 --> 00:58:20,627
Speaker 2: Have you been able to get in the nets and

1189
00:58:20,667 --> 00:58:22,747
Speaker 2: bat as well? And we could your bat when you

1190
00:58:22,747 --> 00:58:24,227
Speaker 2: were rehabbing or not really.

1191
00:58:24,707 --> 00:58:26,427
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, I've done lots of it, so I sort

1192
00:58:26,427 --> 00:58:29,187
Speaker 11: of you know, obviously through the rehab part you're kind

1193
00:58:29,187 --> 00:58:31,827
Speaker 11: of hard to take. You take your medicine and take

1194
00:58:31,827 --> 00:58:33,907
Speaker 11: a bit of rest, and but yeah, to able to

1195
00:58:33,907 --> 00:58:35,867
Speaker 11: pick up the bat and put a fair amount of

1196
00:58:35,907 --> 00:58:38,787
Speaker 11: work into that. So yeah, that sort of keep me

1197
00:58:38,787 --> 00:58:39,987
Speaker 11: saying for a little bit of it for sure.

1198
00:58:40,027 --> 00:58:41,827
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Well, it stuck to have you back. Looking

1199
00:58:41,827 --> 00:58:44,107
Speaker 2: forward to these Chap the Handley games just finally, I mean,

1200
00:58:44,107 --> 00:58:46,107
Speaker 2: they come thick and fast and there's a three games

1201
00:58:46,107 --> 00:58:48,867
Speaker 2: in four days. That's going to be an interesting challenge

1202
00:58:48,867 --> 00:58:49,867
Speaker 2: for you as well, isn't it.

1203
00:58:50,427 --> 00:58:50,707
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1204
00:58:50,827 --> 00:58:53,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like thankfully we're all on one spot, so we

1205
00:58:53,187 --> 00:58:54,467
Speaker 11: just sort of park up at the Mount for a week,

1206
00:58:54,507 --> 00:58:57,027
Speaker 11: so it'll be nice. But yeah, they do come thick

1207
00:58:57,027 --> 00:58:59,467
Speaker 11: and fast in the first week of October, so hopeing

1208
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:00,667
Speaker 11: whether plays ball we ever.

1209
00:59:01,027 --> 00:59:02,067
Speaker 8: Yeah, have cracking series.

1210
00:59:02,107 --> 00:59:03,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing it again. Great to

1211
00:59:03,907 --> 00:59:05,787
Speaker 2: have you back, Kyle. Thanks for chatting to us today. Mate,

1212
00:59:05,827 --> 00:59:08,027
Speaker 2: all the best for the series and for the rest

1213
00:59:08,067 --> 00:59:08,947
Speaker 2: of the summer as well.

1214
00:59:08,987 --> 00:59:10,147
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, appreciate it.

1215
00:59:10,187 --> 00:59:12,827
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your time, Kyle. Thanks indeed, Coyle Jamison there,

1216
00:59:13,187 --> 00:59:15,267
Speaker 2: great to have him back. Let's just keep our fingers

1217
00:59:15,307 --> 00:59:18,667
Speaker 2: crossed for for no more injuries for Kyle. It's been

1218
00:59:18,707 --> 00:59:20,587
Speaker 2: such a wretched time for him and listening to him

1219
00:59:20,627 --> 00:59:22,787
Speaker 2: talk there, man, it must have been. Must have been

1220
00:59:22,787 --> 00:59:25,387
Speaker 2: a dark place he got to when you know, you

1221
00:59:25,427 --> 00:59:27,307
Speaker 2: think that he thought that he might not play again.

1222
00:59:27,387 --> 00:59:29,427
Speaker 2: You know, for a guy who just exploded onto the

1223
00:59:29,467 --> 00:59:32,267
Speaker 2: Test scene, big part of our World Test Championship winning

1224
00:59:33,027 --> 00:59:37,667
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and to have so much trouble with

1225
00:59:37,787 --> 00:59:41,027
Speaker 2: injuries must have been entirely frustrating for him. So it's

1226
00:59:41,027 --> 00:59:43,787
Speaker 2: hope he's out the back of that. Keep our fingers crossed,

1227
00:59:44,187 --> 00:59:46,627
Speaker 2: Stephen on Texas. Willow Rourke Jason seems to be missing

1228
00:59:46,627 --> 00:59:48,867
Speaker 2: from that lineup. When would he be available again? To

1229
00:59:48,907 --> 00:59:50,827
Speaker 2: add even more depth? Good questions, Steve and I can

1230
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:53,387
Speaker 2: answer it too, because Willow Rourke has yet to be

1231
00:59:53,427 --> 00:59:57,027
Speaker 2: out of action for at least three months after scans

1232
00:59:57,067 --> 01:00:01,027
Speaker 2: revealed a stress fracture in his lower back. So goodness mean,

1233
01:00:01,107 --> 01:00:02,907
Speaker 2: let's just hope that Willow Rourke doesn't go through the

1234
01:00:02,907 --> 01:00:04,947
Speaker 2: same sort of thing that Kyle Jamison has. He's only

1235
01:00:04,987 --> 01:00:07,707
Speaker 2: twenty four. Willow Rourke He sustained the injury while bowling

1236
01:00:07,707 --> 01:00:11,147
Speaker 2: in the first Test Agains Zimbabwe and returned home to

1237
01:00:11,227 --> 01:00:14,267
Speaker 2: undergo further assessment. A Rob Walter, the coach, says he'll

1238
01:00:14,347 --> 01:00:18,227
Speaker 2: undergo a three month strength and conditioning block before being

1239
01:00:18,267 --> 01:00:21,587
Speaker 2: reassessed to ascertain a return to bowling and a return

1240
01:00:21,627 --> 01:00:23,907
Speaker 2: to play. So there you go. We won't see will

1241
01:00:23,907 --> 01:00:25,947
Speaker 2: I rock the side of Christmas, so that rules them

1242
01:00:25,947 --> 01:00:28,787
Speaker 2: out of those Test matches against the West Indies in December,

1243
01:00:28,787 --> 01:00:30,827
Speaker 2: but also all the white ball stuff to come. This

1244
01:00:30,907 --> 01:00:33,987
Speaker 2: chapel hadley white ball games against England and the West Indies,

1245
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:35,347
Speaker 2: so won't see will I rock in any of that.

1246
01:00:35,427 --> 01:00:38,067
Speaker 2: Let's so we get past Christmas, the strength and conditioning

1247
01:00:38,107 --> 01:00:40,187
Speaker 2: program goes well and he is back into it. In

1248
01:00:40,267 --> 01:00:44,987
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Maddy Lee Wishy, our top Shop put

1249
01:00:45,027 --> 01:00:49,227
Speaker 2: at silver medallist at Paris last year, has qualified automatically

1250
01:00:49,627 --> 01:00:52,347
Speaker 2: for the final at the World Champs in Tokyo. You

1251
01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:55,227
Speaker 2: had to throw nineteen point two to zero or better

1252
01:00:55,947 --> 01:00:57,987
Speaker 2: or be in the top twelve to make the final.

1253
01:00:58,267 --> 01:00:59,947
Speaker 2: With her first throw, Medi Wish she has thrown at

1254
01:00:59,987 --> 01:01:03,027
Speaker 2: nineteen point twenty seven one and done. She is into

1255
01:01:03,027 --> 01:01:06,267
Speaker 2: the final. Terrific outcome for Maddie Wishy. She will contear

1256
01:01:06,827 --> 01:01:09,627
Speaker 2: the women's shot put final at the World Track and

1257
01:01:09,667 --> 01:01:14,187
Speaker 2: Field Champs. Connor Bell, our top men's discus thrower, is

1258
01:01:14,227 --> 01:01:17,267
Speaker 2: in qualifying from about ten minutes from now. He's got

1259
01:01:17,267 --> 01:01:20,467
Speaker 2: to throw sixty six point five oho meters to automatically qualify.

1260
01:01:20,547 --> 01:01:23,107
Speaker 2: His PB is three meters better than that sixty nine

1261
01:01:23,107 --> 01:01:25,307
Speaker 2: to five one he's thrown as a peb. So let's

1262
01:01:25,307 --> 01:01:28,267
Speaker 2: hope Connor Bell can emulate Matty Wishy and qualified directly

1263
01:01:28,707 --> 01:01:31,747
Speaker 2: for that final. One twenty seven. When we come back,

1264
01:01:31,787 --> 01:01:35,827
Speaker 2: we're going to relive one of the greatest upsets in

1265
01:01:35,907 --> 01:01:38,867
Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup history, ten years ago to the day

1266
01:01:39,387 --> 01:01:43,787
Speaker 2: Japan beat South Africa in Brighton. We're going to talk

1267
01:01:43,787 --> 01:01:45,987
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1268
01:01:46,067 --> 01:01:48,787
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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason vl TJ Gunnerhomes, New Zealand's most trusted home.

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Speaker 2: Builder News TALKSB one point thirty one. It's ten years

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Speaker 2: to the day since one of the biggest upsets in

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup history.

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Speaker 20: Joe Peace Great Turtle Bay Stress.

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Speaker 2: Save the Trial on the color.

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Speaker 8: Movie.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 22: Hester, it's a possible I get away and how much

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Speaker 22: for the can it is just in crowded.

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Speaker 23: For Japan, they were courageous and not kicking the goal

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Speaker 23: and went for the time lived with that man lifter

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Speaker 23: you show it's a real good strength part the plastic perfection.

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Speaker 23: Here at the corner Antasca to steal the game for Japan.

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Speaker 23: One of the most famous victories in the history of

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Speaker 23: sports that goes far as saying not just in the

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Speaker 23: game of wreck, the union and victory at will be for.

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Speaker 1: The cherry lessons.

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Speaker 2: It became known as the Brighton Miracle. September nineteen twenty

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Speaker 2: fifteen September twenty here in New Zealand, Japan beating South

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Speaker 2: Africa thirty four thirty two and Brighter scoring the winning

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Speaker 2: try in the eightieth minute. Kose Ono was Japanese first

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Speaker 2: five that day, one of his thirty four test matches.

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Speaker 2: He's now head coach of Sun Tory Sun Goliath and

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Speaker 2: he joins us, Now, Kosa, can you believe it's been

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Speaker 2: ten years since that day?

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Speaker 8: No, I can't.

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Speaker 24: I was actually surprised when you mentioned it or got

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Speaker 24: the call to take the call about it.

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Speaker 25: He has gone like pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: What stands out most when you think back to that day.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, probably thought it was a miracle really like we

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Speaker 24: tried pretty hard for about five months pre that game

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Speaker 24: with Eddie and a lot of camps in that But yeah,

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Speaker 24: if I had a spare ten dollars, I probably wouldn't

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Speaker 24: have put it on Ja Panele in that game myself.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel a degree of confidence going in though,

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Speaker 2: as you say, you'd prepared well, you had a good

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Speaker 2: coach and I want to talk about Eddie in a moment,

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Speaker 2: and some good players. Did you feel a degree of confidence.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, Look, you never known you get there because you

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Speaker 24: have your Pacific Nations Cup and you have your pre

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Speaker 24: World Cup matches and things. But you never know until

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Speaker 24: you're sort of in the environment and see the spring

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Speaker 24: walk side to get named and then and then.

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Speaker 25: Yes what see what.

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Speaker 8: Soe?

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Speaker 25: Who you're up against?

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Speaker 24: So I don't know at the time, probably not, But

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Speaker 24: as the game went on, definitely you sort of saw

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Speaker 24: our confidence grow and probably there's their game sort of

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Speaker 24: made to be I don't know that.

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Speaker 25: I think they started thinking about their game.

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Speaker 2: Really, it's got a South African side too, It's not

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Speaker 2: like they put out a big team against you, some

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Speaker 2: big names and there Brian Habana played that day, Scott Berger,

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Speaker 2: Victim Mattfield, many others. How did you avoid being daunted

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Speaker 2: by their lineup?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 24: Well, we I played with Free Prayer and Scolpburger at

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Speaker 24: Suntory of the previous year, so we already had a

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Speaker 24: bit of an inkling of what we were up against.

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Speaker 24: And there are a lot of South Africans playing in

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Speaker 24: the Japanese League at the time, so.

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Speaker 25: We knew a little bit about them.

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Speaker 24: But when they turned into when they wear the green juries,

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Speaker 24: it's a little bit different. So I suppose we just

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Speaker 24: knew what our strengths were and didn't go too far

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Speaker 24: away from that. That was playing with pretty a lot

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Speaker 24: of speed and moving the ball, which seemed to work.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, sorry, So at what point during the game

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Speaker 2: did you think, actually, we're not going to get run

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Speaker 2: over the top of here? We were a chance.

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Speaker 26: Oh It's always hard because even in the all black

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Speaker 26: sell Us of a Africa game the other day, like,

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Speaker 26: you just never know when one side is going to crack,

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Speaker 26: and usually the spring Wats can bring a lot of

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Speaker 26: power in the second half and when you would hang

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Speaker 26: on for a while, whether that be ten minutes.

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Speaker 24: Or sixteen minutes, we just didn't know until we were

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Speaker 24: up in the game. But you know, ten minutes into

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Speaker 24: the game, we felt pretty confident, and I think our

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Speaker 24: confidence grew when we Leachi scored that try off the mall.

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Speaker 24: I think it might have been about twenty twenty five

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Speaker 24: minutes into the game. And then I think at the

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Speaker 24: point in the second half, halfway through the second half,

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Speaker 24: rather than I think that scored two more tries. Rather

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Speaker 24: than go for the posts they are sorry, go to

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Speaker 24: the corner for another more, they opted for three points,

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Speaker 24: which is trying to build a scoreboard, rather than the

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Speaker 24: way that they'd been scoring their try. So you knew

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Speaker 24: that they were sort of almost protecting the lead as

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Speaker 24: opposed to just going for going in seven. So, yeah,

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Speaker 24: that gave us more confidence than probably what gave them

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Speaker 24: at that point in the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm just checking the scorecard here and it says that

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Speaker 2: you were replaced with seven minutes to go. Does that

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Speaker 2: sound right? Did you watch the last few minutes from

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Speaker 2: the sideline?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Me and for me standing side beside on the.

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Speaker 2: Sideline, how was that.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, Oh, we were just a spectator by then, Like

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Speaker 24: we were just riding, riding the emotions with the crowd.

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Speaker 25: Probably.

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Speaker 24: I just remember the crowd just being really green at

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Speaker 24: the start of the game and the warm up and things.

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Speaker 24: But as the game we're on, like I don't know,

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Speaker 24: it just started to turn red and it was almost

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Speaker 24: like the Springbok fans were sharing a good game on

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Speaker 24: but probably hoping that they didn't lose in the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 24: we were just all a part of it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 24: the seven minutes was a bit rollercoaster and such, but yeah,

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Speaker 24: the guy's out there. Yeah, it was pretty crazy finishing

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Speaker 24: the game.

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Speaker 2: And dat it was. Well they were South Arigara head

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Speaker 2: thirty two twenty nine. You know the hood has gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're still playing and then can't hiss Keith goes over

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Speaker 2: in the corner. What's the emotion like when that happens?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, like a miracle happened. Like it's one of those

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Speaker 24: moments in life that I've had. Probably I couldn't say

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Speaker 24: how many, but a lot of people come up to

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Speaker 24: me where they knew where they were, who they were with,

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Speaker 24: and what they were doing at the time that it

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Speaker 24: happened because they were so shocked. It's one of those

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Speaker 24: a couple of events in life that people would just

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Speaker 24: remember vividly and yeah, like i've been I think how

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Speaker 24: might've been half a dozen years ago we were down

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Speaker 24: at a sharing concert done Dunedin and a student, a

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Speaker 24: guy grabbed Karn because I was with Card at the time,

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Speaker 24: said oh, Grabdnan and the bar and said, your can't heskith.

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Speaker 24: You put me through university because I had X amount

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Speaker 24: of money on.

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Speaker 25: You to score or try or something amazing.

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Speaker 24: He didn't have the winning ticket, but yeah, it was

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Speaker 24: just a little stories like that that sort of pop

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Speaker 24: up every now and then, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 2: Well you mentioned for me Aki Tanaka of course, who

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Speaker 2: was playing for the Highlanders of that time, so we

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Speaker 2: saw a lot of them over here. How influential was

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Speaker 2: he in your team at that time?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, him and probably a lot of others, probably about

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Speaker 24: six others had played Super Rugby the previous year, and

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Speaker 24: obviously Forma was probably the shining light. And amongst all

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Speaker 24: those guys that had played the MPC and then represented

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Speaker 24: to Highlanders and playing alongside Aaron Smith was pretty cool

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Speaker 24: and inspiring for the rest of us to see. So yeah,

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Speaker 24: I had a big influence in the group we've joined

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Speaker 24: post Super Rugby that that campaign, and he bought a

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Speaker 24: couple of years of Super Rugby knowledge and then a

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Speaker 24: lot of confidence that someone like his size could compete

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Speaker 24: it at that level as well, and then bring that

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Speaker 24: experience to the team, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Eddie Jones was your coach? What was he like in

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Speaker 2: that role?

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Speaker 25: Awesome? Well, he's just he's just so knowledgeable about the game.

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Speaker 24: And then he knew, i think a Japanese background and

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Speaker 24: his experienced coaching in Japan, knew how to get the

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Speaker 24: team prepared and play like the Japanese which is playing

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Speaker 24: quick and moving the ball, and that seemed to suit everyone,

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Speaker 24: the whole squad really well. And then we spent six

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Speaker 24: months leading into that which no other probably a team

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Speaker 24: gets to do, which built cohesion and a lot of

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Speaker 24: trust amongst the playing group and the coaching staff. The

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01:10:48,787 --> 01:10:52,067
Speaker 24: results are pretty cool in himself, but the prep was hard,

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Speaker 24: but when you get the fruits, it's pretty cool to

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01:10:54,867 --> 01:10:56,787
Speaker 24: look back while we went through together and then what

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Speaker 24: we were able to achieve.

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Speaker 2: And despite winning three of you four Paul games, you

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Speaker 2: didn't make the knockout rounds. As things turned out at

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Speaker 2: the end, at the end of Paul Play, was there

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Speaker 2: a to disappointment with that, even given what you had

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Speaker 2: achieved in Brighton?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, probably on reflection at the you know, like it

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Speaker 24: would be pretty cool to get to the next stage,

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Speaker 24: which the next group we're able to do in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 25: It was just it was just really hard. Like I remember.

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Speaker 24: After the Springbok game going up to Eddie and we

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Speaker 24: sort of I gave him a hug and knew.

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Speaker 25: I was like, how are you well.

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Speaker 24: I was like, yeah, we met the spring Box and

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Speaker 24: he goes, mate, we've got We've got Scotland in four days,

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Speaker 24: And I was like, Jesus has already moved on so quickly.

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Speaker 24: But as it turns out, like if you ask the

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Speaker 24: All Blacks to play the spring Box and then play

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Speaker 24: Scotland in four days, you know, it's a pretty mamoth

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Speaker 24: task in itself. Lead alone, Japan just been getting up

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Speaker 24: as the spring Box and then trying to beat Scotland.

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Speaker 24: So it was a pretty Yeah, the cards were drawn

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Speaker 24: our way, but yeah, we did. We did what we

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Speaker 24: could do and put ourselves in a position to get

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Speaker 24: through and we just didn't have enough points in the end,

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Speaker 24: so that is what it is. But yeah, it would

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Speaker 24: have been called to go another game. Yeah, pretty we

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Speaker 24: did what we could I suppose.

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Speaker 2: So where does that day rank in your rugby career?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, it'd be number one, just pure sort of commitment

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Speaker 24: to what we were trying to achieve and then actually

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Speaker 24: being able to achieve it. Like I still have memories

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Speaker 24: of I think it was one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 24: seventeen All Blacks versus Japan and nine five coup in

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Speaker 24: my head, I was in primary school waking up to

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Speaker 24: that game, to putting on the jersey because I grew

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Speaker 24: up in crosses and yeah, so we're actually wearing the

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Speaker 24: Japanese jersey, playing the spring box, you know, almost twenty

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Speaker 24: years after that, and then actually beating them.

1495
01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:51,947
Speaker 25: Yeah that was pretty cool.

1496
01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:54,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, special day, special day. So coaching these days obviously

1497
01:12:55,027 --> 01:12:57,427
Speaker 2: its Tory How Sam How Sam Cane go?

1498
01:12:58,347 --> 01:12:58,947
Speaker 25: Yeah awesome.

1499
01:12:59,187 --> 01:13:01,067
Speaker 24: Yeah, this will be his third year and he's mixed

1500
01:13:01,147 --> 01:13:04,507
Speaker 24: right into the group and yeah, his level of experience

1501
01:13:05,667 --> 01:13:10,067
Speaker 24: in leadership voice has been awesome. So yeah, we're just

1502
01:13:10,147 --> 01:13:14,427
Speaker 24: expecting another that you from him and leading from the front,

1503
01:13:14,507 --> 01:13:17,307
Speaker 24: being the captain of the team this year, and you.

1504
01:13:17,307 --> 01:13:18,827
Speaker 2: Got cheess on Colby as well. Of course he had

1505
01:13:18,827 --> 01:13:21,267
Speaker 2: a pretty good game last week and against the Hallplex.

1506
01:13:21,387 --> 01:13:23,627
Speaker 2: I presume you called that. I presume you caught that one.

1507
01:13:24,507 --> 01:13:24,747
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1508
01:13:24,987 --> 01:13:28,467
Speaker 24: No, he's amazing, isn't he Like he's people will be

1509
01:13:28,547 --> 01:13:30,827
Speaker 24: surprised when they stand next to him how small he

1510
01:13:30,947 --> 01:13:34,827
Speaker 24: is but explosive and how efficiently he moves his body

1511
01:13:35,307 --> 01:13:38,507
Speaker 24: in and around the big boys especially is unreal. So

1512
01:13:39,227 --> 01:13:41,307
Speaker 24: there's a lot to take from Cheers. But yeah, having

1513
01:13:41,347 --> 01:13:44,147
Speaker 24: those two guys in amongst the group less our team

1514
01:13:46,307 --> 01:13:49,947
Speaker 24: knowledge and and for the i Q a lot too.

1515
01:13:50,187 --> 01:13:52,587
Speaker 24: So no, we're looking forward to having Cheers back when

1516
01:13:52,627 --> 01:13:54,747
Speaker 24: he comes back. But yeah, it's good to see him

1517
01:13:54,747 --> 01:13:55,547
Speaker 24: playing well for the spring.

1518
01:13:55,987 --> 01:13:59,427
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Well, I appreciate say you're taking a bit

1519
01:13:59,467 --> 01:14:01,427
Speaker 2: of a wander down memory lane with us today. Thanks

1520
01:14:01,467 --> 01:14:03,587
Speaker 2: for your memories, your reflections. Hope you can you can

1521
01:14:03,627 --> 01:14:05,307
Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your day. Is as you think back,

1522
01:14:05,307 --> 01:14:06,867
Speaker 2: we'll probably give you a call and ten years from

1523
01:14:06,867 --> 01:14:07,587
Speaker 2: now to do it again.

1524
01:14:08,307 --> 01:14:10,147
Speaker 25: Yeah, no, thank you appreciate it. Now'll we have a

1525
01:14:10,187 --> 01:14:10,507
Speaker 25: good day.

1526
01:14:10,547 --> 01:14:12,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you have a good day. To case owner,

1527
01:14:12,627 --> 01:14:17,147
Speaker 2: there Japanese first five New Zealand raised. But these days

1528
01:14:17,227 --> 01:14:21,347
Speaker 2: coach of Sun Tory Sun Goliath, Sam Kine Cheersland Colby

1529
01:14:21,427 --> 01:14:25,067
Speaker 2: and others over there. Ten years ago I remember vividly

1530
01:14:25,107 --> 01:14:27,107
Speaker 2: watching that game and it's only ten years ago. I

1531
01:14:27,267 --> 01:14:30,707
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in the deep dark, distant past. But yeah,

1532
01:14:30,787 --> 01:14:33,067
Speaker 2: Japan getting up to beat South Africa. So interesting that

1533
01:14:33,187 --> 01:14:36,867
Speaker 2: Coseono mentioned the one forty five seventeen from nineteen ninety

1534
01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:38,907
Speaker 2: five and how far the team came. They didn't get

1535
01:14:38,907 --> 01:14:40,467
Speaker 2: out of the pall that time, but of course in

1536
01:14:40,507 --> 01:14:43,147
Speaker 2: their home tournament in twenty nineteen they did and continued

1537
01:14:43,187 --> 01:14:47,587
Speaker 2: to be a rugby force to be reckoned. With seventeen

1538
01:14:47,787 --> 01:14:50,787
Speaker 2: away from two when we come back across the Tasman

1539
01:14:51,507 --> 01:14:54,427
Speaker 2: Our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock in his regular slot.

1540
01:14:55,507 --> 01:14:58,907
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Fields Call oh eight

1541
01:14:59,027 --> 01:15:01,987
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

1542
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:02,787
Speaker 2: Pain and GJ.

1543
01:15:02,947 --> 01:15:06,187
Speaker 1: Gunner homes New Zealand's first trusted home Milder News.

1544
01:15:06,107 --> 01:15:09,547
Speaker 2: Talk coming up fourteen to two. Connor bell, Our top

1545
01:15:09,667 --> 01:15:12,827
Speaker 2: discus thrower, has had his first attempt in qualifying at

1546
01:15:12,827 --> 01:15:15,427
Speaker 2: the World Champs. Got to throw sixty six point five

1547
01:15:15,587 --> 01:15:18,627
Speaker 2: zero meters to automatically qualify for the final. His first

1548
01:15:18,627 --> 01:15:22,427
Speaker 2: attempt sixty five point nine, so well over a meter

1549
01:15:22,587 --> 01:15:25,147
Speaker 2: short of automatic qualifying. But he has a few more ghosts.

1550
01:15:25,267 --> 01:15:27,507
Speaker 2: Two more. In fact, he can either throw sixty six

1551
01:15:27,587 --> 01:15:29,987
Speaker 2: point five or be one of the top twelve to

1552
01:15:30,107 --> 01:15:32,227
Speaker 2: make it into the final. Let's get you across the

1553
01:15:32,267 --> 01:15:35,667
Speaker 2: Tasman our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock standing by. Has your

1554
01:15:35,667 --> 01:15:36,187
Speaker 2: week been mate?

1555
01:15:36,227 --> 01:15:36,427
Speaker 5: Weather?

1556
01:15:36,507 --> 01:15:40,747
Speaker 9: Okay, yes, good finey Springshead in Sydney. So it's actually

1557
01:15:40,987 --> 01:15:46,227
Speaker 9: beautiful this time of year. It's no humidity, clears guys, no.

1558
01:15:46,387 --> 01:15:49,467
Speaker 2: Rain, unreal, absolutely brilliant. All right, Well, before you get

1559
01:15:49,467 --> 01:15:51,547
Speaker 2: out to enjoy some of that, let's chat some sport.

1560
01:15:52,187 --> 01:15:55,787
Speaker 2: The Roosters have handed Victor Radley a ten match suspension

1561
01:15:55,867 --> 01:15:58,667
Speaker 2: without pay for bringing the club into disrepute. This is

1562
01:15:58,747 --> 01:16:02,107
Speaker 2: after text messages between him and former teammate Brandon Smith

1563
01:16:02,147 --> 01:16:05,947
Speaker 2: were leaked Psmith allegedly supplying Radley with a contact for

1564
01:16:06,067 --> 01:16:08,747
Speaker 2: a deal. What's the reaction being.

1565
01:16:08,627 --> 01:16:14,387
Speaker 9: To this, Yeah, it's oddly sympathetic towards Victor Radley and

1566
01:16:14,747 --> 01:16:19,747
Speaker 9: everyone can see through this soon as this dropped. The

1567
01:16:19,867 --> 01:16:23,427
Speaker 9: story wasn't so much about Brandon Smith. It became about

1568
01:16:23,507 --> 01:16:26,747
Speaker 9: Victor Radley and whether or not he'd get the sack

1569
01:16:26,787 --> 01:16:31,827
Speaker 9: from the Roosters, holding the club chairman's words to account

1570
01:16:32,347 --> 01:16:35,187
Speaker 9: back in I think early February where he was having

1571
01:16:35,227 --> 01:16:38,187
Speaker 9: a shot at the South Sydney because a couple of

1572
01:16:38,267 --> 01:16:40,227
Speaker 9: Air players got caught up in a couple of scandals

1573
01:16:40,307 --> 01:16:43,787
Speaker 9: last year. But Nick Politis, their chairman, basically said, if

1574
01:16:44,067 --> 01:16:47,187
Speaker 9: any of our players get caught with it, we've got

1575
01:16:47,187 --> 01:16:50,867
Speaker 9: a zero tolerance policy, we'll get rid of it. But

1576
01:16:51,467 --> 01:16:56,267
Speaker 9: that's what he said. Now, Victor Radley has been mentioned

1577
01:16:56,387 --> 01:17:00,387
Speaker 9: in court documents and police allegations that he organized with

1578
01:17:00,507 --> 01:17:02,587
Speaker 9: a dealer on the Sunshine Coast to go and pick

1579
01:17:02,707 --> 01:17:06,227
Speaker 9: up some drugs. Now, the actors accusation only goes that far.

1580
01:17:06,427 --> 01:17:10,147
Speaker 9: Doesn't say that he was caught taking them. There's no

1581
01:17:10,547 --> 01:17:15,387
Speaker 9: hard evians that he took them. But everyone's gone wing wing, nudge, nudge.

1582
01:17:15,547 --> 01:17:18,507
Speaker 9: You know what that means anyway, So then everything goes

1583
01:17:18,547 --> 01:17:21,147
Speaker 9: back to Nick Polite is going to sack him, and

1584
01:17:21,267 --> 01:17:24,147
Speaker 9: now he's basically kind of taken two steps back Nick

1585
01:17:24,147 --> 01:17:27,147
Speaker 9: Politis and said, oh no, well, what is zero tolerance anyway,

1586
01:17:27,787 --> 01:17:31,187
Speaker 9: We've punished him as hard as any as we have

1587
01:17:31,387 --> 01:17:33,147
Speaker 9: any other player in the history of our club. And

1588
01:17:33,467 --> 01:17:36,267
Speaker 9: that's the end of the matter. So, yeah, that's the story.

1589
01:17:36,347 --> 01:17:38,627
Speaker 9: It's not so much about Brandon Smith what he's doing

1590
01:17:38,667 --> 01:17:39,747
Speaker 9: in his spare time this week.

1591
01:17:40,227 --> 01:17:43,507
Speaker 2: All right, then, well, let's move to onfield matters around

1592
01:17:43,507 --> 01:17:46,827
Speaker 2: the NRL two semi finals. They're called this, of course,

1593
01:17:46,947 --> 01:17:50,747
Speaker 2: is the right to go into the preliminary finals next weekend,

1594
01:17:50,827 --> 01:17:53,747
Speaker 2: where the Storm and the Broncos have already taken up residents.

1595
01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:57,667
Speaker 2: So a couple of knockout games effectively Raiders Sharks. The Raiders,

1596
01:17:57,707 --> 01:18:00,627
Speaker 2: of course, on the wrong end of that extraordinary game

1597
01:18:00,627 --> 01:18:02,867
Speaker 2: against the Broncos last weekend, how do you assess their

1598
01:18:02,907 --> 01:18:05,747
Speaker 2: ability to bounce back tonight and beat the Sharks.

1599
01:18:06,627 --> 01:18:09,827
Speaker 9: So I'll tell you about the fifty five minute mark

1600
01:18:09,907 --> 01:18:12,747
Speaker 9: if it's a close game, and then what transpires there

1601
01:18:12,787 --> 01:18:15,827
Speaker 9: and if they blink twice again it was incredible, wasn't

1602
01:18:15,827 --> 01:18:17,107
Speaker 9: a point? Did you catch it?

1603
01:18:17,307 --> 01:18:19,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I caught it. I'm still catching my breath.

1604
01:18:20,667 --> 01:18:20,867
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1605
01:18:21,107 --> 01:18:24,867
Speaker 9: So it plowed through the end time and the six

1606
01:18:24,907 --> 01:18:27,947
Speaker 9: o'clock news hit time for Channel Line over here, and

1607
01:18:28,067 --> 01:18:32,907
Speaker 9: then kept going and going and going. It was extraordinary. Apparently,

1608
01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:35,547
Speaker 9: Ricky Stewart. On the Monday night they had their awards

1609
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,067
Speaker 9: night and the players had a day off. They did

1610
01:18:38,147 --> 01:18:42,147
Speaker 9: their own recovery after the game, and Ricky Stewart's rocked up.

1611
01:18:42,187 --> 01:18:44,547
Speaker 9: And remember earlier in the year when Hutson, Young and

1612
01:18:44,627 --> 01:18:48,747
Speaker 9: a teammate got in trouble for a few shenanigans in Vegas,

1613
01:18:48,827 --> 01:18:52,067
Speaker 9: like hitting each other over the head. Yes, yes, yeah, anyway,

1614
01:18:52,147 --> 01:18:55,787
Speaker 9: Ricky Stewart gets up and goes well. Was the effect

1615
01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:58,067
Speaker 9: of yesterday was the second worst the thing that happened.

1616
01:18:59,467 --> 01:19:01,187
Speaker 9: The worst thing that happened to me this year was

1617
01:19:01,267 --> 01:19:03,347
Speaker 9: getting a call at five o'clock in Las Vegas saying

1618
01:19:03,387 --> 01:19:04,547
Speaker 9: huts and Young had been up.

1619
01:19:04,507 --> 01:19:05,147
Speaker 8: To some mischief.

1620
01:19:05,187 --> 01:19:08,787
Speaker 9: So apparently just broke the eye. I broke the room

1621
01:19:08,907 --> 01:19:12,507
Speaker 9: up everyone. Yeah, helped everyone kind of get over it,

1622
01:19:12,587 --> 01:19:15,907
Speaker 9: but we won't really know until the game starts and

1623
01:19:16,107 --> 01:19:19,067
Speaker 9: those things happen. And look, I've got the feeling they

1624
01:19:19,107 --> 01:19:20,867
Speaker 9: had the chance to ice the game and just lock

1625
01:19:20,947 --> 01:19:24,067
Speaker 9: it away and they couldn't work out how to do that,

1626
01:19:24,187 --> 01:19:26,747
Speaker 9: and that then gave Brisbane the chance to do what

1627
01:19:26,907 --> 01:19:31,067
Speaker 9: they did. Cornella probably don't have the Strikers Brisbane last week.

1628
01:19:31,107 --> 01:19:34,147
Speaker 9: I think Camberton bounce back and then we get to tomorrow.

1629
01:19:34,227 --> 01:19:37,307
Speaker 9: I think about seventy thousand coming to watch the Dogs

1630
01:19:37,347 --> 01:19:37,667
Speaker 9: in general.

1631
01:19:37,867 --> 01:19:40,067
Speaker 2: Unbelieva boy. Yeah, Panther's doing a job on the Warriors

1632
01:19:40,147 --> 01:19:42,987
Speaker 2: last Weekendn't there's any great surprise over here or probably

1633
01:19:43,067 --> 01:19:45,427
Speaker 2: over there about that the Panthers have won at the

1634
01:19:45,507 --> 01:19:48,267
Speaker 2: last four, but not from seventh place. But they're still

1635
01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:49,947
Speaker 2: good goodn't they. I mean they've made it a bit

1636
01:19:50,027 --> 01:19:52,107
Speaker 2: more difficult for themselves, but they'd be favorite to beat

1637
01:19:52,107 --> 01:19:53,027
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs, wouldn't they.

1638
01:19:53,867 --> 01:19:57,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, in horse racing terms, it runs over up

1639
01:19:57,387 --> 01:20:00,627
Speaker 9: here because the Dogs have just got injuries left right

1640
01:20:00,627 --> 01:20:03,427
Speaker 9: at the center. They got Toby Sexton back at half back,

1641
01:20:03,467 --> 01:20:05,347
Speaker 9: which is not a bad thing. He played well last night.

1642
01:20:05,427 --> 01:20:08,867
Speaker 9: But the big doubt is that they're inspirational captain and

1643
01:20:08,987 --> 01:20:11,227
Speaker 9: one of the best leaders in regul league Stephen Crichton.

1644
01:20:11,267 --> 01:20:13,987
Speaker 9: He's got a high ankle sprain and it looks like

1645
01:20:14,067 --> 01:20:17,267
Speaker 9: it's impossible for him to overcome that. So Penrith favorites

1646
01:20:17,307 --> 01:20:20,147
Speaker 9: heavy favorites. I think under the odds. Personally, I think

1647
01:20:20,187 --> 01:20:22,747
Speaker 9: they're three to one on as something ridiculous. But yeah,

1648
01:20:22,987 --> 01:20:25,347
Speaker 9: they deserve to be where they are in terms of

1649
01:20:25,907 --> 01:20:28,347
Speaker 9: the market and this time of year because they're just

1650
01:20:28,387 --> 01:20:29,387
Speaker 9: coming good at SAMs.

1651
01:20:29,787 --> 01:20:32,427
Speaker 2: Can we finish with the World Track and Field Champs?

1652
01:20:32,587 --> 01:20:35,867
Speaker 2: And the latest statement from Gout Gout he didn't make

1653
01:20:35,907 --> 01:20:38,947
Speaker 2: the final of the two hundred meters but finished fourth

1654
01:20:39,027 --> 01:20:41,467
Speaker 2: in the semi final. It's still pretty good for a

1655
01:20:41,547 --> 01:20:43,067
Speaker 2: seventeen year old sprinter, isn't it.

1656
01:20:44,827 --> 01:20:50,387
Speaker 9: Outstanding? Yeah, that you're simply not seasoned at that age. Well, firstly,

1657
01:20:50,427 --> 01:20:53,147
Speaker 9: there's a mental aspect of putting all your nerves aside

1658
01:20:53,227 --> 01:20:57,547
Speaker 9: to compete against guys who had just been blowing straight

1659
01:20:57,587 --> 01:21:00,027
Speaker 9: past twenty meters of a two hundred meter race, which

1660
01:21:00,027 --> 01:21:02,187
Speaker 9: is what happened to him in the heat. And then

1661
01:21:03,507 --> 01:21:06,707
Speaker 9: the physical aspect where these guys are just tuned after

1662
01:21:06,787 --> 01:21:09,027
Speaker 9: a decade at the top level of I know a

1663
01:21:09,107 --> 01:21:11,267
Speaker 9: Lyle's one to two hundred overnight in a time of

1664
01:21:11,347 --> 01:21:13,907
Speaker 9: nineteen fifty two, you around nineteen fifty one in the

1665
01:21:13,987 --> 01:21:18,227
Speaker 9: final of Gougout is yet to legally break twenty seconds.

1666
01:21:18,307 --> 01:21:22,227
Speaker 9: So this but everyone knows what's there, Like it's it's

1667
01:21:22,387 --> 01:21:25,867
Speaker 9: just you can just tell he's got the personality he's got,

1668
01:21:26,107 --> 01:21:28,507
Speaker 9: you know, things that work on technique wires, strength wise,

1669
01:21:28,587 --> 01:21:32,467
Speaker 9: But the basis is there for a guy who's going

1670
01:21:32,507 --> 01:21:34,347
Speaker 9: to be at the top level. I was thinking about Ponty.

1671
01:21:34,387 --> 01:21:36,947
Speaker 9: How scary is this? There's every chance that goug Out

1672
01:21:37,027 --> 01:21:38,707
Speaker 9: can be competing at the top of his game at

1673
01:21:38,707 --> 01:21:40,347
Speaker 9: the twenty fortieth Olympics.

1674
01:21:42,227 --> 01:21:45,307
Speaker 2: That are scary. I wonderful still be doing what we're

1675
01:21:45,387 --> 01:21:49,427
Speaker 2: doing today in twenty forty what's your what's your best guess?

1676
01:21:50,227 --> 01:21:52,867
Speaker 8: Ah, my mast answer me.

1677
01:21:52,947 --> 01:21:55,307
Speaker 9: Something's gone wrong wrong with me if I'm still doing it,

1678
01:21:55,747 --> 01:21:58,587
Speaker 9: and me more importantly, something's gone wrong with the decision

1679
01:21:58,627 --> 01:22:01,387
Speaker 9: makers to allow me to keep doing it. If we're

1680
01:22:01,427 --> 01:22:03,467
Speaker 9: not about I don't know about you, piems just spaking

1681
01:22:03,827 --> 01:22:04,347
Speaker 9: for myself.

1682
01:22:04,707 --> 01:22:06,627
Speaker 2: No, I think I can put myself an exigs the

1683
01:22:06,707 --> 01:22:09,027
Speaker 2: same conversation. Always good chatting to you, mate, and you're

1684
01:22:09,027 --> 01:22:12,747
Speaker 2: the rest of your weekend. We'll catch up again next Saturday. No,

1685
01:22:12,867 --> 01:22:15,587
Speaker 2: thank you, mate. That's Adam Peacock, Australian correspondent. Seven to

1686
01:22:15,707 --> 01:22:16,547
Speaker 2: two News Talks.

1687
01:22:16,387 --> 01:22:20,987
Speaker 1: eDV analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World.

1688
01:22:21,187 --> 01:22:26,267
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine Call eighty News Talks.

1689
01:22:26,067 --> 01:22:29,307
Speaker 2: eNB coming up four to two. After two o'clock we're

1690
01:22:29,347 --> 01:22:31,907
Speaker 2: going to talk some breakers. I've got a new majority owner,

1691
01:22:32,427 --> 01:22:34,707
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell is his name. He's going to chat to

1692
01:22:34,787 --> 01:22:38,067
Speaker 2: us after two o'clock. We'll also check in with Hayden Padden,

1693
01:22:38,227 --> 01:22:41,187
Speaker 2: our greatest ever rally driver. He's back home for the

1694
01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:45,107
Speaker 2: Ashley Forest Rally Sprint which is on this weekend. Now

1695
01:22:45,227 --> 01:22:47,867
Speaker 2: on the order in Canterbury. We'll have a chat to

1696
01:22:47,907 --> 01:22:52,267
Speaker 2: Hayden Padden, John Haggart on whether Otago can win the

1697
01:22:52,307 --> 01:22:54,427
Speaker 2: Shield this afternoon and your chance to win when we

1698
01:22:54,547 --> 01:22:56,067
Speaker 2: play us. Sporting Chants.

1699
01:22:57,587 --> 01:23:00,427
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1700
01:23:00,867 --> 01:23:04,227
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on week Jens Ford with

1701
01:23:04,467 --> 01:23:07,267
Speaker 1: Jason Pane on your Sport.

1702
01:23:08,667 --> 01:23:12,907
Speaker 2: Talk News Talks, Evy Wicked Sport Welcome Maker to seven,

1703
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Speaker 2: Jason Pinne and Andy McDonald with you until three, then

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01:23:16,347 --> 01:23:19,387
Speaker 2: Tim Beveridge with the Weekend Collective. Is the ran Furley

1705
01:23:19,467 --> 01:23:22,507
Speaker 2: Shield going to have another new home a bit later

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01:23:22,627 --> 01:23:27,707
Speaker 2: on Canterbury putting it up against Otago. Otago haven't had

1707
01:23:27,747 --> 01:23:29,907
Speaker 2: it for a wee while. They haven't had a challenge

1708
01:23:30,387 --> 01:23:33,427
Speaker 2: Otago that I can see for about four years. So

1709
01:23:33,547 --> 01:23:35,267
Speaker 2: good that they're going to finally get a crack at it,

1710
01:23:35,347 --> 01:23:38,147
Speaker 2: and they're in pretty good form. Otago five wins from

1711
01:23:38,187 --> 01:23:41,627
Speaker 2: their seven matches. Canterbury of course seven from seven. So

1712
01:23:42,147 --> 01:23:44,027
Speaker 2: if we're talking about form teams, then you got to

1713
01:23:44,067 --> 01:23:47,307
Speaker 2: put Canterbury in there as well. But they only just

1714
01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:51,227
Speaker 2: defended it against Tamsman last week, didn't they? George Bell

1715
01:23:51,307 --> 01:23:53,987
Speaker 2: with a try lately late in the piece to keep

1716
01:23:54,027 --> 01:23:57,947
Speaker 2: the log in christ Church can Otago prize it away. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ironically enough, our expert comments man for christ Church Radio

1718
01:24:03,267 --> 01:24:06,067
Speaker 2: commentaries on Gold Sport and I Heart Radio alongside Nick

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01:24:06,107 --> 01:24:09,107
Speaker 2: Bill is John Hagett. Now John Haggett played one hundred

1720
01:24:09,107 --> 01:24:13,707
Speaker 2: and eighteen games for Otago across eight seasons, so I

1721
01:24:13,827 --> 01:24:16,427
Speaker 2: know he lives in christ chich but surely he wants

1722
01:24:16,507 --> 01:24:19,227
Speaker 2: Otago to win. This afternoon we'll get a we'll get

1723
01:24:19,267 --> 01:24:21,667
Speaker 2: a view from him this hour. Also going to chat

1724
01:24:21,707 --> 01:24:24,947
Speaker 2: to Hayden Padden. He is back in New Zealand for

1725
01:24:25,067 --> 01:24:28,147
Speaker 2: one of his favorite events. I'm told just outside of

1726
01:24:28,347 --> 01:24:31,747
Speaker 2: ad Ange Order the Ashley Forest Rally Sprint is on

1727
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Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll have a chat to Hayden Padden about

1728
01:24:35,267 --> 01:24:37,107
Speaker 2: that and about how everything else is gone because he's

1729
01:24:37,347 --> 01:24:40,347
Speaker 2: leading the Australian Rally Championship at the moment with just

1730
01:24:40,427 --> 01:24:43,827
Speaker 2: two events to go. Mark Mitchell standing by the chat

1731
01:24:43,867 --> 01:24:47,387
Speaker 2: to us the majority owner of the Breakers. They got

1732
01:24:47,427 --> 01:24:49,667
Speaker 2: their season underway last night with a loss to the

1733
01:24:49,707 --> 01:24:54,227
Speaker 2: Brisbane Bullets. But Keena rarely to chat to Mark Mitchell

1734
01:24:54,227 --> 01:24:56,547
Speaker 2: about you know, why he's taken over the club and

1735
01:24:56,587 --> 01:24:58,347
Speaker 2: why he's made the changes he has. It's almost a

1736
01:24:58,387 --> 01:25:00,467
Speaker 2: back to the future kind of feel about it. He's

1737
01:25:00,507 --> 01:25:04,747
Speaker 2: brought Dylan boucherback in, Tom Abercrombie's involved the Blackwells, you

1738
01:25:04,827 --> 01:25:07,987
Speaker 2: know who used to be majority. They've almost gone back

1739
01:25:08,067 --> 01:25:11,507
Speaker 2: to what they were. Keen to talk to Mark Mitchell

1740
01:25:11,507 --> 01:25:13,827
Speaker 2: about that in case your mister coming shortly, But must

1741
01:25:13,867 --> 01:25:18,427
Speaker 2: remind you that next Saturday, before the Bledisloe Cup Test,

1742
01:25:19,707 --> 01:25:21,947
Speaker 2: the sky Fan Zone is going to be on the

1743
01:25:22,147 --> 01:25:27,147
Speaker 2: Kennards Outer Oval at Eden Park. Food trucks, bars, interactive fun.

1744
01:25:27,227 --> 01:25:31,747
Speaker 2: The homegrown headline acts like DJ Clint, Roberts Ala, Monterey

1745
01:25:31,827 --> 01:25:35,067
Speaker 2: and King's Lots of Energy. It starts at one forty five,

1746
01:25:36,427 --> 01:25:38,587
Speaker 2: I forget the All Blacks kick off at the family

1747
01:25:38,667 --> 01:25:42,067
Speaker 2: friendly time of five past five, so from around quarter

1748
01:25:42,187 --> 01:25:44,867
Speaker 2: to two. You can get into the fan zone if

1749
01:25:44,907 --> 01:25:46,427
Speaker 2: you have a ticket to the game. So it's for

1750
01:25:46,507 --> 01:25:50,947
Speaker 2: ticket holders to the game, and we're across the weekend.

1751
01:25:50,987 --> 01:25:55,187
Speaker 2: Are giving away a double pass to bleed uslow one

1752
01:25:55,627 --> 01:25:58,827
Speaker 2: Eden Park next Saturday. Can't get you to Auckland, sorry,

1753
01:25:59,627 --> 01:26:03,227
Speaker 2: can't get you there. It's just the double pass. But

1754
01:26:03,427 --> 01:26:06,227
Speaker 2: it's still pretty good, isn't it. And also, of course

1755
01:26:06,227 --> 01:26:09,227
Speaker 2: you get in to the fan zone, the sky fan zone.

1756
01:26:09,907 --> 01:26:11,587
Speaker 2: All you have to do to be in the draw

1757
01:26:11,707 --> 01:26:15,187
Speaker 2: for the double pass is seeing the word bled us

1758
01:26:15,227 --> 01:26:17,947
Speaker 2: slow to nine two ninety two. We don't need anything else,

1759
01:26:18,107 --> 01:26:20,987
Speaker 2: just the word bled us slow. And as I mentioned

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01:26:21,067 --> 01:26:24,067
Speaker 2: last hour, you must spell it correctly, otherwise it doesn't

1761
01:26:24,107 --> 01:26:27,387
Speaker 2: get to us in the correct fashion. It gets to us,

1762
01:26:27,427 --> 01:26:29,787
Speaker 2: but it doesn't get to the right place. It's got

1763
01:26:29,907 --> 01:26:32,747
Speaker 2: to be spelt correctly. And don't add a full stop,

1764
01:26:32,827 --> 01:26:34,827
Speaker 2: don't put your name or anything. It just has to

1765
01:26:34,907 --> 01:26:37,507
Speaker 2: be bled us slow. I hate to labor the point,

1766
01:26:39,867 --> 01:26:41,627
Speaker 2: but I feel like I need to given the number

1767
01:26:41,667 --> 01:26:45,627
Speaker 2: of incorrect spellings we've had. Text bled us slow to

1768
01:26:45,827 --> 01:26:48,267
Speaker 2: nine two nine two to get into the draw. We'll

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01:26:48,307 --> 01:26:51,107
Speaker 2: make that draw tomorrow afternoon. Just keeping an eye on

1770
01:26:51,227 --> 01:26:54,747
Speaker 2: Connor Bell and discus qualifying at the World Track and

1771
01:26:54,827 --> 01:26:57,627
Speaker 2: Field Champs. He's had two attempts, hasn't thrown the automatic

1772
01:26:57,707 --> 01:27:00,147
Speaker 2: qualifying distance yet, but we will keep eyes on his

1773
01:27:00,267 --> 01:27:02,707
Speaker 2: third throw and whether he's one of the top twelve,

1774
01:27:02,787 --> 01:27:05,707
Speaker 2: which at the moment I can tell you that he is.

1775
01:27:06,347 --> 01:27:08,387
Speaker 2: So as long as one of these other athletes doesn't

1776
01:27:08,427 --> 01:27:11,587
Speaker 2: throw it further, then Connor Bell will be in the

1777
01:27:12,227 --> 01:27:17,587
Speaker 2: discus final. He's currently tenth and only twelve go through,

1778
01:27:17,627 --> 01:27:20,027
Speaker 2: and we'll keep an eye on that. But with the

1779
01:27:20,107 --> 01:27:23,387
Speaker 2: time approaching, Jee, I've talked longer than normally do. Eleven

1780
01:27:23,467 --> 01:27:26,147
Speaker 2: past two, let's get you across some of the things

1781
01:27:26,187 --> 01:27:31,027
Speaker 2: that you might have missed. A new little burst of

1782
01:27:31,147 --> 01:27:33,467
Speaker 2: music would suggest that it's time for in case you

1783
01:27:33,547 --> 01:27:36,387
Speaker 2: missed it, another one for the Buffalo Bills in the

1784
01:27:36,507 --> 01:27:39,347
Speaker 2: NFL three and zero. They will make to work for

1785
01:27:39,427 --> 01:27:43,587
Speaker 2: it against the lowly Miami Dolphins until a big defensive

1786
01:27:43,707 --> 01:27:44,747
Speaker 2: play sealed the wind.

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Speaker 20: To god, it's an accept It's picked up and about

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01:27:49,587 --> 01:27:54,627
Speaker 20: the twenty your line there on Bernarde with the huge

1789
01:27:54,747 --> 01:27:59,387
Speaker 20: interception and Dian Walker got in his face as he

1790
01:27:59,507 --> 01:28:01,107
Speaker 20: threw it to get the assist.

1791
01:28:01,347 --> 01:28:04,187
Speaker 2: Thirty one twenty one, the final score to the Bills.

1792
01:28:04,347 --> 01:28:08,867
Speaker 2: The first AFL Grand finalist meantime has been found more

1793
01:28:09,307 --> 01:28:11,267
Speaker 2: passed up at mis clever.

1794
01:28:11,627 --> 01:28:11,987
Speaker 14: Here we go.

1795
01:28:12,507 --> 01:28:14,147
Speaker 2: This had really finished things off.

1796
01:28:14,627 --> 01:28:19,427
Speaker 20: Baily sit the recruits hell has brought smiles too many

1797
01:28:19,547 --> 01:28:24,307
Speaker 20: faces in board Knights and.

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01:28:24,507 --> 01:28:29,827
Speaker 27: After a scared really the Kats of steamroll into its

1799
01:28:29,867 --> 01:28:30,987
Speaker 27: twentieth Grand.

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01:28:30,867 --> 01:28:34,347
Speaker 2: Final, dominant one hundred and fifteen eighty five win for

1801
01:28:34,467 --> 01:28:38,427
Speaker 2: Geelong over Hawthorne, Collingwood up against the Brisbane Lions and

1802
01:28:38,427 --> 01:28:42,027
Speaker 2: the other preliminary final tonight. The Grand Final next Saturday

1803
01:28:42,027 --> 01:28:45,667
Speaker 2: afternoon at the MCG Tarahaki up to Seek and then

1804
01:28:45,707 --> 01:28:47,347
Speaker 2: the NPC beating hawks Bay.

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01:28:47,427 --> 01:28:50,307
Speaker 20: Last night, Crowley gets it back to lord Ola Bosh

1806
01:28:50,507 --> 01:28:54,067
Speaker 20: nice little pastor. Jacob external passing north Cottehill, hoping for

1807
01:28:54,187 --> 01:28:54,467
Speaker 20: the line.

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01:28:54,507 --> 01:28:56,787
Speaker 2: JITs it back and tried to snailer. Staylor's still going

1809
01:28:56,907 --> 01:28:57,707
Speaker 2: hiver the triney too.

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01:28:57,907 --> 01:28:59,067
Speaker 7: He's got to chick our.

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01:28:59,027 --> 01:29:03,787
Speaker 2: Ceremonies, Hey, jack our ceremony riches Alan scores. Oh that's

1812
01:29:03,827 --> 01:29:06,867
Speaker 2: a Champagne drive on. I loved it in the Phil

1813
01:29:06,947 --> 01:29:08,787
Speaker 2: Quinny and the team and impress of thirty eight to

1814
01:29:08,827 --> 01:29:12,947
Speaker 2: twenty four victory. There and another two hundred meters World

1815
01:29:13,107 --> 01:29:17,747
Speaker 2: Championship gold medal for American sprinting star Noah Lyles.

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01:29:18,267 --> 01:29:21,187
Speaker 21: We'll get a very first time when Lyle's explodes out

1817
01:29:21,227 --> 01:29:23,947
Speaker 21: of the block sold as patnaak and Level's going well

1818
01:29:24,067 --> 01:29:27,747
Speaker 21: to to Bojo in touch as well in the middle

1819
01:29:27,787 --> 01:29:30,747
Speaker 21: as they conground the band and Lyle's charging for the

1820
01:29:30,867 --> 01:29:34,627
Speaker 21: line but patnarec level Tobojo still a touch, but Lyle's

1821
01:29:34,667 --> 01:29:35,227
Speaker 21: coming through.

1822
01:29:36,107 --> 01:29:36,867
Speaker 8: Lyles takes it.

1823
01:29:37,467 --> 01:29:42,427
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Marys and the epic fields Weekend

1824
01:29:42,507 --> 01:29:45,707
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine, Newstalk zimb.

1825
01:29:46,107 --> 01:29:49,467
Speaker 2: News Talk's AB two thirteen. The New Zealand Breakers have

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01:29:49,667 --> 01:29:53,587
Speaker 2: been beaten in their Australian National Basketball League season opener

1827
01:29:53,667 --> 01:29:58,947
Speaker 2: at Spark Arena. Adams on the drive two seconds, will

1828
01:29:58,987 --> 01:30:02,107
Speaker 2: put it out and he'll cast it and is that

1829
01:30:02,307 --> 01:30:05,027
Speaker 2: the dagger in the hearts of the New Zealand Breakers.

1830
01:30:06,627 --> 01:30:09,987
Speaker 2: Now this one's going to wrap up. Thank you a

1831
01:30:10,227 --> 01:30:11,547
Speaker 2: nine point when to.

1832
01:30:11,627 --> 01:30:13,507
Speaker 20: The Prison Bullets the way they wanted to.

1833
01:30:13,547 --> 01:30:17,147
Speaker 2: Start NBL twenty six as they look to build up

1834
01:30:17,187 --> 01:30:19,107
Speaker 2: on their efforts last year. Here the Breaker is going

1835
01:30:19,147 --> 01:30:21,907
Speaker 2: down one O four to ninety five to the Brisbane Bullets.

1836
01:30:21,947 --> 01:30:24,667
Speaker 2: Last night. The Breakers joint top scorers with sixteen were

1837
01:30:24,707 --> 01:30:30,507
Speaker 2: American guards Parker Jackson Cartwright and debutant Isaiah Brockington. It's

1838
01:30:30,587 --> 01:30:32,627
Speaker 2: quick turn around for the team. They travel today to

1839
01:30:32,707 --> 01:30:36,027
Speaker 2: play Melbourne United tomorrow afternoon in their second match. The

1840
01:30:36,107 --> 01:30:39,987
Speaker 2: Breakers are of course under new ownership. Keewe. American attorney

1841
01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:43,707
Speaker 2: and businessman Mark Mitchell is now the majority owner of

1842
01:30:43,787 --> 01:30:47,267
Speaker 2: the club after completing the purchase from Matt Walsh's US

1843
01:30:47,387 --> 01:30:51,307
Speaker 2: based group back in March. His investment group also includes

1844
01:30:51,307 --> 01:30:54,827
Speaker 2: successful keiw We entrepreneurs the Grist brothers, Leon and Stephen,

1845
01:30:55,187 --> 01:30:58,267
Speaker 2: their business partner Sean Colgan, as well as former club

1846
01:30:58,307 --> 01:31:01,067
Speaker 2: owners Paul and Liz Blackwell and ex Breaker and Toll

1847
01:31:01,107 --> 01:31:05,347
Speaker 2: Black Tom Abercrombie and another club legend, Dylan Boucher is

1848
01:31:05,547 --> 01:31:10,427
Speaker 2: the president of basketball operations. Mike Mitchell as well as Mark.

1849
01:31:10,547 --> 01:31:14,187
Speaker 2: You were a lower level investor under the previous ownership,

1850
01:31:14,227 --> 01:31:16,827
Speaker 2: So what leads you to seek to take a majority

1851
01:31:16,907 --> 01:31:18,107
Speaker 2: stike in the Breakers.

1852
01:31:18,787 --> 01:31:20,427
Speaker 28: Well, it's great to be with you and thanks for

1853
01:31:20,507 --> 01:31:23,467
Speaker 28: having me. I think it was a lot of things

1854
01:31:23,627 --> 01:31:26,507
Speaker 28: to do with New Zealand, with the region, with the

1855
01:31:26,587 --> 01:31:30,707
Speaker 28: growth of the game. I saw the opportunity to continue

1856
01:31:30,787 --> 01:31:34,067
Speaker 28: to grow the sport and what we can do not

1857
01:31:34,227 --> 01:31:36,587
Speaker 28: only on the court but in the community. I think

1858
01:31:36,627 --> 01:31:38,627
Speaker 28: that's really important and that's what we're trying to get

1859
01:31:38,707 --> 01:31:41,747
Speaker 28: back to with our roots. And so for me, it

1860
01:31:41,867 --> 01:31:45,387
Speaker 28: was a lot of things. And you know, being the

1861
01:31:45,547 --> 01:31:48,067
Speaker 28: team for New Zealand as a as a country as

1862
01:31:48,107 --> 01:31:49,787
Speaker 28: a whole was so attractive.

1863
01:31:50,347 --> 01:31:52,587
Speaker 2: You say, get back to that. Do you think the

1864
01:31:52,627 --> 01:31:55,987
Speaker 2: club had moved away from that under the previous ownership group?

1865
01:31:57,587 --> 01:32:00,627
Speaker 28: I believe, so, you know, and and again you know,

1866
01:32:00,707 --> 01:32:04,147
Speaker 28: we're thinking about the future. We're thinking about where we're

1867
01:32:04,267 --> 01:32:08,547
Speaker 28: going and trying to do it our way. So you know,

1868
01:32:08,747 --> 01:32:11,227
Speaker 28: I think the proofs in the pudding. We are going

1869
01:32:11,267 --> 01:32:14,387
Speaker 28: to deliver on the promises that we're making. And you know,

1870
01:32:14,627 --> 01:32:16,827
Speaker 28: the passes the past, but we're looking towards the future.

1871
01:32:17,347 --> 01:32:20,947
Speaker 2: How can were you to reintegrate the likes of the Blackwells,

1872
01:32:21,307 --> 01:32:25,947
Speaker 2: Tom Abercrombie, Dylan Boucher, names synonymous with the basketball club

1873
01:32:26,027 --> 01:32:27,547
Speaker 2: in its past successes.

1874
01:32:28,427 --> 01:32:31,787
Speaker 28: It was hugely important when you have success on the

1875
01:32:31,907 --> 01:32:36,387
Speaker 28: court and off the court and build culture that's so successful.

1876
01:32:36,707 --> 01:32:39,147
Speaker 28: So in the way that they've done this in the

1877
01:32:39,187 --> 01:32:43,867
Speaker 28: early two thousands with the championships, with being role models

1878
01:32:44,347 --> 01:32:47,747
Speaker 28: in the community and for New Zealand youth, that was important.

1879
01:32:47,827 --> 01:32:52,147
Speaker 28: And every single person who you mentioned, they're great people,

1880
01:32:52,267 --> 01:32:56,027
Speaker 28: they're great competitors, they're successful, but they all wanted to

1881
01:32:56,107 --> 01:32:59,467
Speaker 28: be a part of this. They all understood what we're

1882
01:32:59,547 --> 01:33:02,387
Speaker 28: trying to build. So for me, it would be silly

1883
01:33:02,947 --> 01:33:06,867
Speaker 28: to not use those relationships and bring those people little board.

1884
01:33:07,227 --> 01:33:09,387
Speaker 28: And so I'm very happy with the group that I

1885
01:33:09,507 --> 01:33:12,027
Speaker 28: put together, and you know, we're just getting started as

1886
01:33:12,027 --> 01:33:15,107
Speaker 28: far as that goes. But to really have that foundation

1887
01:33:16,507 --> 01:33:19,187
Speaker 28: is we started in a really great place because of that.

1888
01:33:19,787 --> 01:33:23,147
Speaker 2: What is your vision for the Breakers long term?

1889
01:33:23,507 --> 01:33:27,227
Speaker 28: Again, we represent the entire country, so to be the

1890
01:33:27,347 --> 01:33:31,347
Speaker 28: country's team in the league and the NBL, but to

1891
01:33:31,467 --> 01:33:35,747
Speaker 28: the world. For us too, it's about leading in the

1892
01:33:35,827 --> 01:33:39,227
Speaker 28: sport in general, so from grassroots all the way to

1893
01:33:39,307 --> 01:33:42,107
Speaker 28: the professional level. So in between that you have all

1894
01:33:42,147 --> 01:33:44,867
Speaker 28: of the youth programs and junior Breakers, but we're going

1895
01:33:44,947 --> 01:33:47,827
Speaker 28: to bring back the Breakers Academy as well, and you know,

1896
01:33:47,907 --> 01:33:50,947
Speaker 28: we have a nice partnership as well with basketball in

1897
01:33:50,947 --> 01:33:53,547
Speaker 28: New Zealand and the Tall Blacks. I understand the importance

1898
01:33:54,307 --> 01:33:57,827
Speaker 28: of making sure that the sport grows as a whole,

1899
01:33:57,907 --> 01:34:00,707
Speaker 28: we will all benefit from that. So there's a lot

1900
01:34:00,747 --> 01:34:04,547
Speaker 28: of crossover, as you know, with Dylan Boucher being our

1901
01:34:04,627 --> 01:34:07,587
Speaker 28: president of Basketball Operations and former CEO of Basketball in

1902
01:34:07,587 --> 01:34:11,267
Speaker 28: New Zealand, but Jed Flavell as our associate head coach,

1903
01:34:12,347 --> 01:34:14,387
Speaker 28: so many of our players playing for the Tall Blacks.

1904
01:34:14,707 --> 01:34:17,267
Speaker 28: So to grow the game and for New Zealand to

1905
01:34:17,307 --> 01:34:22,147
Speaker 28: be successful both as a national team but also at

1906
01:34:22,187 --> 01:34:23,947
Speaker 28: a professional level in the NBL.

1907
01:34:24,387 --> 01:34:25,867
Speaker 2: I want to talk a bit more about the community

1908
01:34:25,907 --> 01:34:27,867
Speaker 2: stuff on a moment mark, But how important is it

1909
01:34:27,947 --> 01:34:29,667
Speaker 2: that the team just wins basketball games?

1910
01:34:30,347 --> 01:34:32,987
Speaker 28: Very that's where it all begins.

1911
01:34:33,947 --> 01:34:35,747
Speaker 25: We're here to win, you know.

1912
01:34:35,827 --> 01:34:37,907
Speaker 28: I think we put together a very competitive team in

1913
01:34:37,987 --> 01:34:41,627
Speaker 28: a very competitive league, but it all starts there.

1914
01:34:41,787 --> 01:34:41,947
Speaker 8: You know.

1915
01:34:42,147 --> 01:34:45,987
Speaker 28: That's what keeps people interested. You know, we've got great

1916
01:34:46,027 --> 01:34:48,627
Speaker 28: fans in their diehards, but we all want to win.

1917
01:34:48,747 --> 01:34:52,027
Speaker 28: That's where we start, and that's the conversation every day

1918
01:34:52,067 --> 01:34:52,787
Speaker 28: in our facility.

1919
01:34:53,347 --> 01:34:56,467
Speaker 2: Imports are obviously important to any roster in the Australia

1920
01:34:56,587 --> 01:34:59,907
Speaker 2: National Basketball League and Pockajackson cat right, you've got one

1921
01:34:59,947 --> 01:35:02,427
Speaker 2: of the best. A couple of debutants last night as well.

1922
01:35:02,547 --> 01:35:06,187
Speaker 2: But how important is a strong Kiwi flavor on your roster.

1923
01:35:06,867 --> 01:35:09,987
Speaker 28: It's been really important. I think, you know, I defer

1924
01:35:10,147 --> 01:35:14,747
Speaker 28: to Dylan on basketball decisions. He is really great at

1925
01:35:14,787 --> 01:35:17,307
Speaker 28: his job. But one of the things that we talked

1926
01:35:17,347 --> 01:35:21,387
Speaker 28: about very early was skinning back to that Kiwi core.

1927
01:35:21,827 --> 01:35:26,507
Speaker 28: I told the story to our team at our jersey blessing.

1928
01:35:27,627 --> 01:35:30,907
Speaker 28: I had a conversation with a former executive of one

1929
01:35:30,987 --> 01:35:33,667
Speaker 28: of the NBL teams in Australia and he said to me,

1930
01:35:34,107 --> 01:35:36,427
Speaker 28: you know, I probably shouldn't tell you this, but when

1931
01:35:36,467 --> 01:35:38,507
Speaker 28: we used to play you guys, we were a little

1932
01:35:38,547 --> 01:35:39,147
Speaker 28: bit scared.

1933
01:35:39,587 --> 01:35:40,867
Speaker 7: And I said, well, what do you mean by that?

1934
01:35:41,027 --> 01:35:42,587
Speaker 7: He said, well, when New.

1935
01:35:42,547 --> 01:35:45,947
Speaker 28: Zealand played, they were playing for something different. They were

1936
01:35:46,027 --> 01:35:47,987
Speaker 28: playing with the chip on their shoulder. They were playing

1937
01:35:48,027 --> 01:35:51,267
Speaker 28: for the entire country and a level of pride that

1938
01:35:51,547 --> 01:35:54,067
Speaker 28: we didn't see with the other teams. And I found

1939
01:35:54,067 --> 01:35:56,267
Speaker 28: that to be so interesting. I think it's an advantage

1940
01:35:56,307 --> 01:36:00,067
Speaker 28: that we have with our Kiwi Core. And so you know,

1941
01:36:00,187 --> 01:36:02,547
Speaker 28: we want to, like I said, build the game, but

1942
01:36:02,627 --> 01:36:05,267
Speaker 28: I think build the game in the country. But I

1943
01:36:05,307 --> 01:36:08,787
Speaker 28: think it's really important. And as we've built this Kiwi cord.

1944
01:36:08,787 --> 01:36:10,507
Speaker 28: It actually gives us a competitive advantage.

1945
01:36:11,107 --> 01:36:12,787
Speaker 2: Do you think the Planers realize that? Do you think

1946
01:36:12,827 --> 01:36:15,307
Speaker 2: they realized that the kywitness is a superpower?

1947
01:36:16,587 --> 01:36:17,387
Speaker 28: You nailed the word.

1948
01:36:17,467 --> 01:36:18,667
Speaker 8: That's the word that I use.

1949
01:36:18,707 --> 01:36:20,987
Speaker 28: I said, putting this jersey on is a superpower. And

1950
01:36:21,067 --> 01:36:23,507
Speaker 28: I think that they agree. And I think we have

1951
01:36:23,987 --> 01:36:27,107
Speaker 28: high level leadership. Uh you know from our kiwis. We

1952
01:36:27,147 --> 01:36:30,227
Speaker 28: also have a bunch of young kiwis, So you know,

1953
01:36:30,227 --> 01:36:33,107
Speaker 28: I think everybody understands that, and everybody plays with a

1954
01:36:33,187 --> 01:36:35,907
Speaker 28: level of pride because they're representing the country.

1955
01:36:36,267 --> 01:36:38,587
Speaker 2: I guess it's easy to quantify on court success with

1956
01:36:38,867 --> 01:36:41,787
Speaker 2: you know, with results and stants and things like that, matK,

1957
01:36:41,827 --> 01:36:45,267
Speaker 2: But how do you quantify off court success, the community

1958
01:36:45,267 --> 01:36:48,667
Speaker 2: stuff you were talking about? What does off court success

1959
01:36:48,827 --> 01:36:49,867
Speaker 2: look like for the Breakers?

1960
01:36:50,347 --> 01:36:53,267
Speaker 28: Well, it's funny, you know, we're now speaking a day

1961
01:36:53,347 --> 01:36:57,307
Speaker 28: after the morning after a game. I got a text

1962
01:36:57,387 --> 01:37:00,147
Speaker 28: this morning from someone who was at the game and

1963
01:37:00,267 --> 01:37:02,587
Speaker 28: he said, I don't know what success looks like, but

1964
01:37:03,027 --> 01:37:04,747
Speaker 28: you should look at this video. And there's a video

1965
01:37:04,827 --> 01:37:08,147
Speaker 28: of his daughter shooting hoops in their yard and he said,

1966
01:37:08,187 --> 01:37:09,947
Speaker 28: this is what she's been doing all morning. They were

1967
01:37:09,947 --> 01:37:14,067
Speaker 28: at the game last night. She's obviously inspired. And success

1968
01:37:14,227 --> 01:37:16,387
Speaker 28: comes in a lot of different ways, but that's one

1969
01:37:16,467 --> 01:37:20,947
Speaker 28: of them. Can we touch the youth, can we be examples,

1970
01:37:21,107 --> 01:37:23,187
Speaker 28: can we be out in the community, and can we

1971
01:37:23,267 --> 01:37:23,747
Speaker 28: grow the game.

1972
01:37:24,107 --> 01:37:25,827
Speaker 2: Do you see a tom when there's a women's team?

1973
01:37:26,227 --> 01:37:29,427
Speaker 28: I would love that, And so, you know, I think

1974
01:37:29,707 --> 01:37:32,667
Speaker 28: there's a couple levels to look at that. There's obviously domestic,

1975
01:37:33,667 --> 01:37:36,907
Speaker 28: there's a league and that's growing, and then the w

1976
01:37:37,147 --> 01:37:41,747
Speaker 28: NBL as well is just getting its legs under itself.

1977
01:37:41,787 --> 01:37:45,107
Speaker 28: I think that is something in the future that I

1978
01:37:45,187 --> 01:37:49,107
Speaker 28: absolutely want to have as part of our program, and

1979
01:37:49,227 --> 01:37:53,387
Speaker 28: so as the opportunities grow in the region, it's always

1980
01:37:53,467 --> 01:37:55,187
Speaker 28: something that we'll be looking to add.

1981
01:37:56,067 --> 01:37:58,987
Speaker 2: Would you describe yourself as a hands on owner of

1982
01:37:59,107 --> 01:37:59,547
Speaker 2: this club?

1983
01:38:01,707 --> 01:38:06,147
Speaker 28: I am very involved, but I've hired great people and

1984
01:38:06,907 --> 01:38:09,707
Speaker 28: you know, they are empowered to do their jobs, and

1985
01:38:09,987 --> 01:38:14,147
Speaker 28: I feel really wonderful about our staff, our front office,

1986
01:38:14,827 --> 01:38:17,947
Speaker 28: and and the playing can continue as well, and the

1987
01:38:18,027 --> 01:38:20,947
Speaker 28: coaching staff, I mean all phases. I think we've we've

1988
01:38:21,387 --> 01:38:25,227
Speaker 28: gotten some great people who are very talented but also

1989
01:38:25,707 --> 01:38:30,307
Speaker 28: good folks. So for me, you know, it's about setting

1990
01:38:30,347 --> 01:38:32,787
Speaker 28: the vision. I'm in touch with everybody all the time,

1991
01:38:33,307 --> 01:38:35,427
Speaker 28: but I'll never micro manage folks.

1992
01:38:36,187 --> 01:38:38,587
Speaker 2: An the result you're after last night to start the season,

1993
01:38:38,627 --> 01:38:40,587
Speaker 2: but it's only the first game. What did you make

1994
01:38:40,667 --> 01:38:41,467
Speaker 2: of last night?

1995
01:38:42,187 --> 01:38:46,467
Speaker 28: Well, as as a basketball fan, you know we can

1996
01:38:46,547 --> 01:38:48,987
Speaker 28: only shoot better than we did last night, so I'm

1997
01:38:49,067 --> 01:38:51,787
Speaker 28: actually encouraged. You know, we played pretty well with the

1998
01:38:52,067 --> 01:38:55,867
Speaker 28: shots just didn't fall. I will tell you this, it

1999
01:38:56,027 --> 01:38:59,667
Speaker 28: is very different watching it from this perspective as the

2000
01:38:59,747 --> 01:39:01,707
Speaker 28: owner of a team is quite nerve wracking.

2001
01:39:02,387 --> 01:39:03,227
Speaker 8: So it was a fun time.

2002
01:39:03,587 --> 01:39:06,107
Speaker 28: You know, the atmosphere in the arena was great, But

2003
01:39:06,227 --> 01:39:08,547
Speaker 28: I think, you know, for the first game, not a

2004
01:39:08,627 --> 01:39:11,107
Speaker 28: bad start. We have things obviously on the court we

2005
01:39:11,387 --> 01:39:14,267
Speaker 28: we're going to keep working on, but are very confident

2006
01:39:14,387 --> 01:39:17,507
Speaker 28: in our team and in our coaching staff that you

2007
01:39:17,587 --> 01:39:21,107
Speaker 28: know we'll continue to be very competitive, uh, in every game.

2008
01:39:21,187 --> 01:39:24,507
Speaker 28: And this league, like I mentioned, is so competitive top

2009
01:39:24,587 --> 01:39:26,947
Speaker 28: to bottom, but you know we'll be right there.

2010
01:39:27,107 --> 01:39:28,907
Speaker 2: You've landed on a red in string point. I've actually

2011
01:39:28,907 --> 01:39:30,667
Speaker 2: wondered that you know, what's so much skin on the game,

2012
01:39:31,187 --> 01:39:32,867
Speaker 2: you know, being the owner of this club, now, are

2013
01:39:32,907 --> 01:39:35,187
Speaker 2: you able to actually enjoy a game of basketball? That

2014
01:39:35,267 --> 01:39:36,467
Speaker 2: the breaker is applying what do you do?

2015
01:39:36,667 --> 01:39:36,787
Speaker 7: Well?

2016
01:39:36,827 --> 01:39:38,587
Speaker 2: You just sitting there with a nolt in your stomach

2017
01:39:38,787 --> 01:39:39,347
Speaker 2: the whole time.

2018
01:39:39,667 --> 01:39:40,587
Speaker 8: He'll be determined.

2019
01:39:40,707 --> 01:39:43,347
Speaker 28: Last nay, it was more of a of a not

2020
01:39:43,467 --> 01:39:46,707
Speaker 28: in the stomach scenario. So you know, hopefully we'll ease

2021
01:39:46,747 --> 01:39:49,067
Speaker 28: into this. I told my wife last night, I said,

2022
01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:50,947
Speaker 28: I don't know if I can do this thirty two times,

2023
01:39:52,227 --> 01:39:55,427
Speaker 28: you know, because it is very stressful. You want what's

2024
01:39:55,467 --> 01:39:58,947
Speaker 28: best for the guys and you want that that result

2025
01:39:59,747 --> 01:40:02,867
Speaker 28: that everybody wants, which is to win. So we'll see.

2026
01:40:02,987 --> 01:40:03,747
Speaker 12: We'll see how I do.

2027
01:40:03,947 --> 01:40:05,547
Speaker 28: But like I said, it's a new experience.

2028
01:40:05,907 --> 01:40:08,707
Speaker 2: But when I'm embracing I bet sounds like it. Great

2029
01:40:08,747 --> 01:40:10,387
Speaker 2: to have the new season underway. Great to have you

2030
01:40:10,467 --> 01:40:12,307
Speaker 2: at the hell. Mark, thanks for joining us. Look forward

2031
01:40:12,347 --> 01:40:14,147
Speaker 2: to catching up across the season again sometime.

2032
01:40:14,387 --> 01:40:15,067
Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

2033
01:40:15,147 --> 01:40:17,027
Speaker 2: Look forward to talking again. Yes so do I Mark.

2034
01:40:17,067 --> 01:40:20,227
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, Mark Mitchell there majority owner of the Breakers.

2035
01:40:20,267 --> 01:40:22,467
Speaker 2: So I lost last night one four ninety five to

2036
01:40:22,547 --> 01:40:26,227
Speaker 2: the Brisbane Bullets, but no time to really dwell on that.

2037
01:40:26,427 --> 01:40:29,547
Speaker 2: Off they go to Melbourne where tomorrow afternoon they'll play

2038
01:40:29,627 --> 01:40:34,707
Speaker 2: Melbourne United. Next home game is next Saturday at Beckett

2039
01:40:34,707 --> 01:40:38,547
Speaker 2: Spark Arena, obviously against against the Perth Wildcats. Producer Andy

2040
01:40:38,587 --> 01:40:41,507
Speaker 2: went to the basketball last night despite the result, How

2041
01:40:41,667 --> 01:40:44,147
Speaker 2: was the game night experience last night?

2042
01:40:44,267 --> 01:40:46,987
Speaker 13: Oh, it's always very fun going to going to a

2043
01:40:47,027 --> 01:40:49,547
Speaker 13: Breakers game, and I give the old ownership credit for

2044
01:40:49,787 --> 01:40:53,107
Speaker 13: actually maintaining that, and particularly under the new owners it

2045
01:40:53,227 --> 01:40:54,627
Speaker 13: was a lot of Yeah, a lot of fun. And

2046
01:40:54,707 --> 01:40:57,627
Speaker 13: basketball is a sport that actually lends itself to that

2047
01:40:57,787 --> 01:41:01,667
Speaker 13: as well. So yeah, but they just need to practice

2048
01:41:01,907 --> 01:41:05,627
Speaker 13: hitting their threes. Man, you can't win games shooting or

2049
01:41:05,667 --> 01:41:08,867
Speaker 13: eighteen percent three now. A lot of fun though, good advice.

2050
01:41:09,307 --> 01:41:11,227
Speaker 13: So yeah, so more balls and hoops? Is that what

2051
01:41:11,347 --> 01:41:13,627
Speaker 13: you're saying, More balls and hoops or just keep taking

2052
01:41:13,667 --> 01:41:15,587
Speaker 13: it to the rack if it's if it's if you're

2053
01:41:15,587 --> 01:41:17,827
Speaker 13: not hitting your three, So if you're shooting that poorly,

2054
01:41:17,987 --> 01:41:19,707
Speaker 13: just just getting get into the paint, because that's when

2055
01:41:19,747 --> 01:41:21,827
Speaker 13: they really played well. I've gone away from the game

2056
01:41:21,867 --> 01:41:25,107
Speaker 13: to experience and now just critiquing them as a as

2057
01:41:25,147 --> 01:41:27,747
Speaker 13: a fan of the team. But come on, guys, you

2058
01:41:27,867 --> 01:41:28,387
Speaker 13: shoot better.

2059
01:41:28,747 --> 01:41:30,347
Speaker 2: I don't mind that, you know, I don't mind the

2060
01:41:30,507 --> 01:41:32,707
Speaker 2: use of the jargon in the paint. Take it to

2061
01:41:32,787 --> 01:41:33,147
Speaker 2: the rack.

2062
01:41:33,387 --> 01:41:36,467
Speaker 13: I love that just as I think as my old

2063
01:41:37,227 --> 01:41:39,227
Speaker 13: one of my old head coaches used to say, ed Book,

2064
01:41:39,267 --> 01:41:41,027
Speaker 13: he used to say, just get the ball and lay

2065
01:41:41,067 --> 01:41:43,707
Speaker 13: it in. It was just as simple as that, Piney.

2066
01:41:43,907 --> 01:41:46,187
Speaker 13: They just needed to get get inside and just because

2067
01:41:46,187 --> 01:41:47,507
Speaker 13: they were doing well when they were doing.

2068
01:41:47,387 --> 01:41:50,867
Speaker 2: That, more balls and hoops. More balls and hoops, that's

2069
01:41:50,867 --> 01:41:52,947
Speaker 2: what they need. Connor Bell is through to the final

2070
01:41:53,067 --> 01:41:55,227
Speaker 2: of the men's discuss at the World Track and Field

2071
01:41:55,307 --> 01:41:58,147
Speaker 2: Champs in Tokyo. He has qualified eleventh with the best

2072
01:41:58,187 --> 01:42:01,307
Speaker 2: throw of sixty five point nine meters in qualifying, so

2073
01:42:01,427 --> 01:42:04,587
Speaker 2: he is through. Earlier today medially wish he needed just

2074
01:42:04,747 --> 01:42:07,147
Speaker 2: one throw to make it through to the final of

2075
01:42:07,267 --> 01:42:10,267
Speaker 2: the women's shot puts. She threw nineteen point twenty seven meters,

2076
01:42:10,827 --> 01:42:14,187
Speaker 2: seven centimeters longer than the automatic qualifying mark, and Tory

2077
01:42:14,307 --> 01:42:17,307
Speaker 2: Moreby also won and done in the women's javelin. She's

2078
01:42:17,347 --> 01:42:20,147
Speaker 2: into the final of that. So it's been very very

2079
01:42:20,267 --> 01:42:22,867
Speaker 2: good World Track and Field Champs. We've had goals to

2080
01:42:22,907 --> 01:42:25,867
Speaker 2: Hamish Kerr and Jordy Beamish, three of our pole vaulters

2081
01:42:25,907 --> 01:42:28,787
Speaker 2: in the women's pole vault final, and now Connor Bell,

2082
01:42:29,067 --> 01:42:31,667
Speaker 2: Tory Morby and Maddie Lee wishy all into their finals.

2083
01:42:32,227 --> 01:42:34,507
Speaker 2: Might drill down into that tomorrow just how good is

2084
01:42:34,587 --> 01:42:38,507
Speaker 2: this historically but also how promising is it for what

2085
01:42:38,667 --> 01:42:42,907
Speaker 2: might lie ahead to twenty six Quick check on NPC Rugby,

2086
01:42:42,947 --> 01:42:46,187
Speaker 2: Bunnings MPC couple of games going on at the moment.

2087
01:42:46,267 --> 01:42:50,547
Speaker 2: Auckland's miserable season is continuing in Pukakoi. Their twenty one

2088
01:42:50,667 --> 01:42:55,587
Speaker 2: kneel down after twenty minutes against Counties Manico and Auckland

2089
01:42:55,627 --> 01:42:58,427
Speaker 2: have Rico Yuanni and Caleb Clark in their starting side.

2090
01:42:59,267 --> 01:43:02,147
Speaker 2: Camroyguard waiting on the bench for Counties. They're going to

2091
01:43:02,187 --> 01:43:04,307
Speaker 2: give him half an hour or so gets through that, okay,

2092
01:43:04,347 --> 01:43:06,147
Speaker 2: which we will keep our fingers crossed that they will.

2093
01:43:06,387 --> 01:43:07,827
Speaker 2: He'll be in the All Blacks next week to take

2094
01:43:07,867 --> 01:43:12,307
Speaker 2: on South Africa and fourteen to five Wellington leads Southland

2095
01:43:12,387 --> 01:43:15,547
Speaker 2: after eighteen minutes at Pottidoor Park. There are a few

2096
01:43:15,627 --> 01:43:19,307
Speaker 2: All Blacks and the Wellington team too. Reuben Love, also

2097
01:43:20,227 --> 01:43:23,707
Speaker 2: Peter Larkeye and Kyle Preston all in the starting fifteen.

2098
01:43:23,747 --> 01:43:28,027
Speaker 2: There Wellington leeds Southland fourteen points to five two twenty seven.

2099
01:43:28,107 --> 01:43:29,467
Speaker 2: Going to take a break when we come back. It

2100
01:43:29,627 --> 01:43:34,827
Speaker 2: is our most successful rally driver of all time Hayden Patten.

2101
01:43:34,867 --> 01:43:37,747
Speaker 2: He's back in New Zealand for the Ashley Forest Rally

2102
01:43:37,867 --> 01:43:40,147
Speaker 2: Sprint this weekend. We'll have it chat to him right

2103
01:43:40,187 --> 01:43:41,307
Speaker 2: after this one.

2104
01:43:41,547 --> 01:43:46,187
Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engage weekends for It with Jason PyME and

2105
01:43:46,467 --> 01:43:48,947
Speaker 1: GJ Gunners, new Zealand's most.

2106
01:43:48,787 --> 01:43:52,427
Speaker 2: Trusted home builder News talk to Baby Bang on two thirty.

2107
01:43:52,467 --> 01:43:55,587
Speaker 2: The Ashley Forest Rally sprints on this weekend now Lungy

2108
01:43:55,667 --> 01:43:58,267
Speaker 2: Order in Canterbury are fast and challenging one point seven

2109
01:43:58,387 --> 01:44:02,467
Speaker 2: kilometer gravel hill climb first held in nineteen seventy nine

2110
01:44:03,107 --> 01:44:05,307
Speaker 2: and since then it's become one of New Zealand's most

2111
01:44:05,707 --> 01:44:08,387
Speaker 2: iconic mote sport events, attracting many of the country's top

2112
01:44:08,467 --> 01:44:12,067
Speaker 2: drivers as well as international names over the years. As well.

2113
01:44:12,427 --> 01:44:15,907
Speaker 2: New Zealand's most successful rally driver, Hayden Padden is a

2114
01:44:15,987 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 2: regular competitor at Ashley Forrest. He's won at five times

2115
01:44:19,587 --> 01:44:22,387
Speaker 2: more than anybody else twenty eleven twenty nineteen at each

2116
01:44:22,427 --> 01:44:25,227
Speaker 2: of the last three and has the course record of

2117
01:44:25,387 --> 01:44:29,427
Speaker 2: fifty two seconds flat, which he set in twenty twenty three.

2118
01:44:29,627 --> 01:44:31,907
Speaker 2: Hayden Padden is with us. Is this one of your

2119
01:44:31,947 --> 01:44:32,667
Speaker 2: favorite events?

2120
01:44:33,987 --> 01:44:34,147
Speaker 8: Hey?

2121
01:44:34,267 --> 01:44:37,027
Speaker 29: Yeah, it's certainly a favorite one for sure, just particlarly

2122
01:44:37,067 --> 01:44:39,267
Speaker 29: with the history and it's a very different format to

2123
01:44:39,347 --> 01:44:41,307
Speaker 29: the type of events we normally do, but it's a

2124
01:44:41,347 --> 01:44:42,747
Speaker 29: lot of fun and a lot of adrenalins.

2125
01:44:43,507 --> 01:44:46,587
Speaker 2: You first competed here as a fourteen year old. That

2126
01:44:46,707 --> 01:44:49,467
Speaker 2: must have been one of the first significant events in

2127
01:44:49,507 --> 01:44:50,827
Speaker 2: your motorsport journey, was it.

2128
01:44:51,827 --> 01:44:53,667
Speaker 29: Yeah, seems like a long time ago, but posicially on

2129
01:44:53,747 --> 01:44:57,347
Speaker 29: my fourteenth birthday as well, driving my dad's roller. And yes,

2130
01:44:57,467 --> 01:44:59,827
Speaker 29: it's quite humbling just to remember what we've done in

2131
01:44:59,827 --> 01:45:01,707
Speaker 29: the last twenty years since then, and they come back

2132
01:45:01,747 --> 01:45:04,027
Speaker 29: with our own team in cars and continue to enjoy

2133
01:45:04,107 --> 01:45:04,427
Speaker 29: this event.

2134
01:45:05,067 --> 01:45:07,187
Speaker 2: So how does it work, Hayden? Across the weekend? How

2135
01:45:07,227 --> 01:45:08,347
Speaker 2: many cracks do you get at it?

2136
01:45:09,827 --> 01:45:13,147
Speaker 29: Yeah, so it's a different format. I rally today elimination format,

2137
01:45:13,267 --> 01:45:16,227
Speaker 29: so like today is qualifying and then tomorrow we go

2138
01:45:16,307 --> 01:45:19,027
Speaker 29: in and to shootout. So top thirty two, sixteen eighty

2139
01:45:19,027 --> 01:45:22,547
Speaker 29: four and two. So nothing's predictable. Even if you're the

2140
01:45:22,627 --> 01:45:24,667
Speaker 29: fastest car around, you still want to get to reach

2141
01:45:24,667 --> 01:45:27,307
Speaker 29: around with no problems. And I guess you know that's

2142
01:45:27,347 --> 01:45:29,507
Speaker 29: what adds to the excitement for the fans and for ourselves.

2143
01:45:29,987 --> 01:45:33,507
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So you're you're still alive as we speak, presumably.

2144
01:45:34,667 --> 01:45:36,787
Speaker 29: Yeah, No, everything's gone well. So we've done two qualifying

2145
01:45:36,867 --> 01:45:39,907
Speaker 29: runs so far, another two to go today with it's

2146
01:45:39,987 --> 01:45:41,947
Speaker 29: not looking so good tomorrow, which is which is not

2147
01:45:42,027 --> 01:45:44,467
Speaker 29: good for us trying to try to beat our record,

2148
01:45:45,027 --> 01:45:46,387
Speaker 29: But in saying that, you just got to play on

2149
01:45:46,427 --> 01:45:48,387
Speaker 29: the conditions that we handed and you know, we're trying

2150
01:45:48,387 --> 01:45:49,587
Speaker 29: to do the best job we can today while the

2151
01:45:49,587 --> 01:45:50,067
Speaker 29: weather's good.

2152
01:45:50,547 --> 01:45:52,547
Speaker 2: Ye know, well that record fifty two seconds flat in

2153
01:45:52,627 --> 01:45:55,347
Speaker 2: your Hyundai I twenty eight p four and twenty twenty three.

2154
01:45:55,947 --> 01:45:59,307
Speaker 2: As you as your driving, do you know your your

2155
01:45:59,707 --> 01:46:03,347
Speaker 2: close to record speed or does that only occur to

2156
01:46:03,387 --> 01:46:04,987
Speaker 2: you once once the clock stops.

2157
01:46:06,067 --> 01:46:08,387
Speaker 29: Yeah, it's difficult rallying because you're obviously on your own.

2158
01:46:08,707 --> 01:46:10,707
Speaker 29: You don't have those reference points of other cars, and

2159
01:46:10,867 --> 01:46:13,467
Speaker 29: there's so many variables also with the road. Conditions plays

2160
01:46:13,507 --> 01:46:15,907
Speaker 29: a big part. So we can see this year, for example,

2161
01:46:15,987 --> 01:46:18,467
Speaker 29: the road's not fast, so that plays a major factor

2162
01:46:18,507 --> 01:46:21,267
Speaker 29: in it. So yeah, it's really hard to gauge your time,

2163
01:46:21,307 --> 01:46:24,347
Speaker 29: and you know, particularly over this shorter space of road,

2164
01:46:24,667 --> 01:46:27,187
Speaker 29: there's no room the era and you know every tenth

2165
01:46:27,227 --> 01:46:28,427
Speaker 29: for second becomes quite critical.

2166
01:46:29,067 --> 01:46:32,547
Speaker 2: I mentioned the it the Cando it I twenty AP four.

2167
01:46:32,627 --> 01:46:36,827
Speaker 2: Then you've been a driving force behind some groundbreaking projects

2168
01:46:36,907 --> 01:46:40,267
Speaker 2: with AP four hill climbs and n EV rally programs

2169
01:46:40,267 --> 01:46:41,947
Speaker 2: as well. Can you just explain AP.

2170
01:46:41,907 --> 01:46:43,067
Speaker 10: Four for us?

2171
01:46:44,147 --> 01:46:44,267
Speaker 8: Oh?

2172
01:46:44,347 --> 01:46:47,267
Speaker 29: Yeah, Basically AP four is a New Zealand concept. It

2173
01:46:47,347 --> 01:46:51,187
Speaker 29: pretty much is born from the International Rally too speed car,

2174
01:46:51,227 --> 01:46:52,947
Speaker 29: which is the same car that we run in Europe,

2175
01:46:52,947 --> 01:46:55,147
Speaker 29: but it's just sort of done on a lower budget

2176
01:46:55,467 --> 01:46:57,507
Speaker 29: to try and make it more affordable for Kiwi competitors.

2177
01:46:57,587 --> 01:46:59,507
Speaker 29: So the AP four concept has been around for nearly

2178
01:46:59,547 --> 01:47:02,267
Speaker 29: ten years now, and the Rally two car, which is

2179
01:47:02,307 --> 01:47:04,067
Speaker 29: the same as we're rallying in Australia this year and

2180
01:47:04,187 --> 01:47:06,267
Speaker 29: Europe last year, is probably the more common car now.

2181
01:47:06,947 --> 01:47:08,347
Speaker 29: But the AP four allows you to use a bit

2182
01:47:08,387 --> 01:47:10,507
Speaker 29: of Kvy ingenuity and number eight wire and you know,

2183
01:47:10,547 --> 01:47:12,547
Speaker 29: particularly events like this where we can put nine hundred

2184
01:47:12,547 --> 01:47:15,027
Speaker 29: horsecar under the engine and Bighero gives you a lot

2185
01:47:15,067 --> 01:47:15,747
Speaker 29: more flexibility.

2186
01:47:16,227 --> 01:47:16,467
Speaker 8: Love it.

2187
01:47:16,547 --> 01:47:18,467
Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty two you made history by taking

2188
01:47:18,547 --> 01:47:21,867
Speaker 2: victory in this event in an electric car, first time

2189
01:47:21,907 --> 01:47:23,627
Speaker 2: the event I'd ever been won in an electric car.

2190
01:47:23,707 --> 01:47:27,027
Speaker 2: How significant was that huge for our team?

2191
01:47:27,547 --> 01:47:29,227
Speaker 29: You know, we've got the electric car here again this year,

2192
01:47:29,267 --> 01:47:31,027
Speaker 29: and that was a big project for us five years

2193
01:47:31,027 --> 01:47:33,147
Speaker 29: ago and we launched it and as a small team

2194
01:47:33,387 --> 01:47:36,347
Speaker 29: in Central Targo, the build and design one of these

2195
01:47:36,387 --> 01:47:38,387
Speaker 29: cars and be the world's first doing it was something

2196
01:47:38,387 --> 01:47:40,347
Speaker 29: that we're pretty proud of. And then the're bringing that

2197
01:47:40,587 --> 01:47:43,587
Speaker 29: and to win was was I guess the cherry on top.

2198
01:47:43,667 --> 01:47:46,107
Speaker 29: So it's still an ongoing R and D project. We're

2199
01:47:46,107 --> 01:47:49,707
Speaker 29: doing a lot with electrification and hydrogen within the industry.

2200
01:47:50,467 --> 01:47:52,707
Speaker 29: So yeah, as Paul as the big horsepower combustion cars

2201
01:47:52,707 --> 01:47:54,707
Speaker 29: are and that's what we all love and motorsport, it's

2202
01:47:54,707 --> 01:47:56,827
Speaker 29: actually it's a lot of fun and a good challenge. We'

2203
01:47:56,867 --> 01:47:58,107
Speaker 29: dabbling with the technology as.

2204
01:47:58,027 --> 01:48:00,067
Speaker 2: Well, so that's what you're racing this weekend. Have you

2205
01:48:00,107 --> 01:48:02,227
Speaker 2: made a few changes to any modifications.

2206
01:48:03,347 --> 01:48:05,627
Speaker 29: Oh yeah, we're on the AP four, so we got

2207
01:48:05,667 --> 01:48:08,387
Speaker 29: more power more this year. The EV is much the

2208
01:48:08,427 --> 01:48:10,027
Speaker 29: same as it has been the last couple of years.

2209
01:48:10,227 --> 01:48:12,347
Speaker 29: It's a pretty good platform that doesn't need a whole lot,

2210
01:48:12,507 --> 01:48:14,747
Speaker 29: so but yeah, every year you're always trying to find

2211
01:48:14,787 --> 01:48:17,067
Speaker 29: something more, you know, the beauty and motor support, as

2212
01:48:17,067 --> 01:48:19,027
Speaker 29: if you're standing still, you're going backward. So it's always

2213
01:48:19,027 --> 01:48:19,907
Speaker 29: about trying to push.

2214
01:48:19,747 --> 01:48:22,867
Speaker 2: The envelop So you mentioned the weather before, so are

2215
01:48:22,947 --> 01:48:25,827
Speaker 2: you I mean, it's fifty two flat realistic this weekend

2216
01:48:26,107 --> 01:48:27,427
Speaker 2: or might that not be possible?

2217
01:48:28,347 --> 01:48:29,267
Speaker 8: It may not be possible.

2218
01:48:29,547 --> 01:48:31,507
Speaker 29: Normally the record time always comes on the second day

2219
01:48:31,507 --> 01:48:33,627
Speaker 29: as the road develops over the weekend and sweeps off

2220
01:48:33,667 --> 01:48:36,587
Speaker 29: and becomes faster. So now with the rain tomorrow, we've

2221
01:48:36,587 --> 01:48:38,427
Speaker 29: still got to try and do it today. So I

2222
01:48:38,507 --> 01:48:40,627
Speaker 29: think it's it's a tough ass, but we will certainly

2223
01:48:40,627 --> 01:48:42,747
Speaker 29: give it a crack. But you know, long term, you know,

2224
01:48:42,827 --> 01:48:44,427
Speaker 29: we want to try and break the fifty second barrier.

2225
01:48:44,427 --> 01:48:46,467
Speaker 29: You know, I remember when the minute barrier was broken

2226
01:48:46,507 --> 01:48:49,107
Speaker 29: here some thirty five or forty years ago by Rod Millan.

2227
01:48:49,867 --> 01:48:52,347
Speaker 29: To try and do full circle and go ten seconds

2228
01:48:52,427 --> 01:48:54,827
Speaker 29: quicker and get under the fifty is the ultimate goal.

2229
01:48:54,987 --> 01:48:57,147
Speaker 29: So it's what we'll work towards over the next.

2230
01:48:57,107 --> 01:48:57,467
Speaker 8: Year or two.

2231
01:48:57,907 --> 01:48:59,907
Speaker 2: Unreal So, I mean you mentioned before that a tenth

2232
01:48:59,947 --> 01:49:02,027
Speaker 2: of a second is quite a long time and this

2233
01:49:02,187 --> 01:49:05,107
Speaker 2: so to shave a couple more seconds off, where do

2234
01:49:05,147 --> 01:49:08,387
Speaker 2: you find though, Where do you find that extra extra

2235
01:49:08,507 --> 01:49:10,627
Speaker 2: pace or how do you shave two seconds off?

2236
01:49:11,587 --> 01:49:14,347
Speaker 29: Yeah, well you're right, it doesn't sound a lot two seconds,

2237
01:49:14,427 --> 01:49:16,227
Speaker 29: but here it is a lot. It's a mountain of

2238
01:49:16,267 --> 01:49:19,467
Speaker 29: the climb. But it's just about the accumulation of everything.

2239
01:49:19,547 --> 01:49:22,267
Speaker 29: You know, the road condition's being right, we can keep

2240
01:49:22,307 --> 01:49:24,947
Speaker 29: adding more power, keep adding more aero. It's just a

2241
01:49:25,027 --> 01:49:26,067
Speaker 29: constant development race.

2242
01:49:26,547 --> 01:49:26,667
Speaker 8: You know.

2243
01:49:26,787 --> 01:49:29,147
Speaker 29: That's a beauty of motorsport. It is just constantly moving toward.

2244
01:49:29,347 --> 01:49:31,747
Speaker 29: So yeah, we're just going to keep questioning ourselves and

2245
01:49:32,147 --> 01:49:34,747
Speaker 29: the whole team and see if we can reach out target.

2246
01:49:35,347 --> 01:49:38,427
Speaker 2: You're such an advocate for rally driving, Hayden, You've talked

2247
01:49:38,427 --> 01:49:41,587
Speaker 2: openly about the potential in years ahead to run a

2248
01:49:41,667 --> 01:49:45,067
Speaker 2: top flight WRC team from New Zealand's gutter regulation changes.

2249
01:49:45,107 --> 01:49:46,387
Speaker 2: Do you believe that's realistic?

2250
01:49:47,587 --> 01:49:47,667
Speaker 8: Oh?

2251
01:49:47,747 --> 01:49:51,067
Speaker 29: Yeah, certainly the goal. There's a new rule sick from

2252
01:49:51,107 --> 01:49:53,907
Speaker 29: the WRC that's looking to be launched for twenty twenty seven,

2253
01:49:53,947 --> 01:49:56,147
Speaker 29: and these new rules are going to give opportunities to

2254
01:49:56,267 --> 01:49:58,587
Speaker 29: teams like ourselves to go out and build and prepare

2255
01:49:58,627 --> 01:50:00,827
Speaker 29: our own car. And you know, my goal is about

2256
01:50:00,827 --> 01:50:02,467
Speaker 29: to do that from the Zealand run on New Zealand

2257
01:50:02,507 --> 01:50:04,627
Speaker 29: team A bit like what you know New Zealand doing

2258
01:50:04,707 --> 01:50:07,227
Speaker 29: sale GP or America's Cup is to really take the

2259
01:50:08,147 --> 01:50:11,027
Speaker 29: you know, been proud from this country. There's a lot

2260
01:50:11,067 --> 01:50:13,507
Speaker 29: of good engineers and technicians in this country and been

2261
01:50:13,547 --> 01:50:15,947
Speaker 29: able to utilize that and take on the world. So yeah,

2262
01:50:15,987 --> 01:50:17,987
Speaker 29: these opportunities that are going to be coming. We're still

2263
01:50:18,027 --> 01:50:20,067
Speaker 29: working from the business models and how we fund it

2264
01:50:20,107 --> 01:50:23,147
Speaker 29: and that's another challenge on his own. But from a

2265
01:50:23,227 --> 01:50:26,187
Speaker 29: personnel side and expertise, we've certainly got the got what

2266
01:50:26,267 --> 01:50:27,267
Speaker 29: we need here in jail and to do.

2267
01:50:27,307 --> 01:50:30,507
Speaker 2: The job outstanding. And you're currently leading the Australian Rally

2268
01:50:30,627 --> 01:50:33,587
Speaker 2: Championship after four of six events, just Adelaide and Tasmania

2269
01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:35,867
Speaker 2: to come. You've won the last three. Are you just

2270
01:50:35,907 --> 01:50:37,147
Speaker 2: getting better the more you do this?

2271
01:50:38,307 --> 01:50:38,387
Speaker 8: Oh?

2272
01:50:38,427 --> 01:50:39,907
Speaker 29: I don't know about I'm getting older as well a

2273
01:50:39,947 --> 01:50:43,067
Speaker 29: few more great heads. But yeah, obviously Australia, we're loving

2274
01:50:43,107 --> 01:50:45,267
Speaker 29: the challenge over there for the first time and the

2275
01:50:45,347 --> 01:50:47,427
Speaker 29: motivated fact there was obviously you know, growing up watching

2276
01:50:47,467 --> 01:50:49,467
Speaker 29: poss and Born and what he did and nausey dominated

2277
01:50:49,547 --> 01:50:52,027
Speaker 29: for many years and to now go over and try

2278
01:50:52,067 --> 01:50:54,707
Speaker 29: and compete with the same you know that the sons

2279
01:50:54,747 --> 01:50:58,387
Speaker 29: of Neil Bates, who is who possibly you to compete against?

2280
01:50:58,547 --> 01:51:00,787
Speaker 29: Brings back a lot of memory. So yeah, started off

2281
01:51:00,827 --> 01:51:02,747
Speaker 29: a bit rough with the kangaroo and counter shall we say,

2282
01:51:02,987 --> 01:51:04,547
Speaker 29: but we've sort of got things back on track since

2283
01:51:04,587 --> 01:51:07,067
Speaker 29: then and hopefully we can continue it last two rounds.

2284
01:51:07,467 --> 01:51:09,147
Speaker 2: What did you have the kangaroo in the first event?

2285
01:51:09,947 --> 01:51:12,627
Speaker 29: Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, the kangaro ran across the road and

2286
01:51:13,067 --> 01:51:15,147
Speaker 29: wiped out the car so far. Yeah, it was the

2287
01:51:15,187 --> 01:51:17,987
Speaker 29: internate rally, so behave we've learned about the local wildlife

2288
01:51:18,027 --> 01:51:18,987
Speaker 29: now so we can move on.

2289
01:51:19,507 --> 01:51:22,427
Speaker 2: See that won't happen on Ashley at Ashley Forest. No

2290
01:51:22,587 --> 01:51:24,787
Speaker 2: kangaroo's up there, mate, No, all.

2291
01:51:24,787 --> 01:51:26,187
Speaker 29: I've seen plenty of while of the down and why

2292
01:51:26,227 --> 01:51:27,987
Speaker 29: many forests actually so they come close.

2293
01:51:28,667 --> 01:51:30,747
Speaker 2: All right, I had a great to chat. Made awesome

2294
01:51:30,787 --> 01:51:32,707
Speaker 2: to have you home. Thanks for taking the time this afternoon,

2295
01:51:32,787 --> 01:51:34,107
Speaker 2: and all the best across the weekend.

2296
01:51:35,067 --> 01:51:35,307
Speaker 7: Thanks.

2297
01:51:36,267 --> 01:51:39,027
Speaker 2: That's Hayden pad and joining us our best ever rally

2298
01:51:39,187 --> 01:51:41,987
Speaker 2: driver at the Ashley Forest Rally Sprint on this weekend

2299
01:51:42,067 --> 01:51:45,307
Speaker 2: now along the order in Canterbury. All right, I'm just

2300
01:51:45,347 --> 01:51:47,227
Speaker 2: had a look up at the TV where there's an

2301
01:51:47,267 --> 01:51:50,147
Speaker 2: MPC game on between Wellington and Southland half an hour gone,

2302
01:51:50,187 --> 01:51:56,347
Speaker 2: Wellington thirty five five ahead. What's gone on there? Thirty

2303
01:51:56,467 --> 01:52:00,267
Speaker 2: five five Wellington ahead of Southland? Quick check on the

2304
01:52:00,307 --> 01:52:02,667
Speaker 2: other game and County's Manico are twenty eight to seven

2305
01:52:03,187 --> 01:52:07,067
Speaker 2: ahead of Auckland after thirty minutes. So some some optional

2306
01:52:07,147 --> 01:52:09,267
Speaker 2: defending going on by the sounds of it in both

2307
01:52:09,307 --> 01:52:13,067
Speaker 2: Pokacoe and Pottydoer, what are we coming up? Twenty one

2308
01:52:13,107 --> 01:52:15,587
Speaker 2: to three? Can to check in with John Haggart shortly.

2309
01:52:15,787 --> 01:52:18,627
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2310
01:52:18,707 --> 01:52:23,387
Speaker 2: Furley Shield challenge from his former Otago side against Canterbury

2311
01:52:23,467 --> 01:52:25,627
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Does he think that that shield might find

2312
01:52:25,907 --> 01:52:29,107
Speaker 2: another new home this year? Well we'll find out from

2313
01:52:29,187 --> 01:52:31,787
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2315
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2319
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2320
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Speaker 2: you are and want to have a crack call now

2321
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2322
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2327
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2328
01:53:13,307 --> 01:53:17,587
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2329
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2330
01:53:19,267 --> 01:53:21,347
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2331
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

2332
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2333
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2334
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2336
01:53:31,387 --> 01:53:35,187
Speaker 2: the three options. Short, this is the this is why

2337
01:53:35,227 --> 01:53:39,707
Speaker 2: you finished top four. Special Camber Raiders Cronulla Sharks at

2338
01:53:39,787 --> 01:53:43,107
Speaker 2: ten to ten tonight, it's for the Canberra Raiders to win.

2339
01:53:43,467 --> 01:53:46,707
Speaker 2: Paying a dollar seventy seven, you would win one hundred

2340
01:53:46,707 --> 01:53:51,107
Speaker 2: and fifteen dollars fifty. That is the short option. Even

2341
01:53:51,547 --> 01:53:55,587
Speaker 2: is the my producer, and he doesn't really understand football. Special.

2342
01:53:55,987 --> 01:53:59,787
Speaker 2: It's Liverpool against Everton tonight in the Premier League and

2343
01:54:00,067 --> 01:54:03,027
Speaker 2: we've gone for the draw. It's paying four dollars twenty

2344
01:54:03,627 --> 01:54:06,627
Speaker 2: you would win four hundred and eighty dollars if you

2345
01:54:06,747 --> 01:54:11,427
Speaker 2: choose that one. And the long option is the Bell

2346
01:54:11,747 --> 01:54:16,747
Speaker 2: Family Affair Special Canterbury against Otago this afternoon. The opposing

2347
01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:20,907
Speaker 2: hookers are brothers George and Henry Bell, and if they

2348
01:54:21,027 --> 01:54:25,147
Speaker 2: score three or more tries combined, that's paying fourteen dollars.

2349
01:54:25,867 --> 01:54:30,747
Speaker 2: You would win one thousand, nine hundred and fifty dollars. So, Sharon,

2350
01:54:30,987 --> 01:54:33,707
Speaker 2: the Raiders to beat the Sharks you'd win one hundred

2351
01:54:33,707 --> 01:54:38,307
Speaker 2: and fifteen fifty. Liverpool and Everton to draw, you'd win

2352
01:54:38,427 --> 01:54:41,707
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty. The Bell Brothers to score three

2353
01:54:41,787 --> 01:54:45,107
Speaker 2: or more tries you would win one thousand, nine hundred

2354
01:54:45,187 --> 01:54:48,067
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. Which one would you like to choose?

2355
01:54:49,947 --> 01:54:52,027
Speaker 8: Look for the Bell brothers.

2356
01:54:52,587 --> 01:54:52,947
Speaker 2: Why not?

2357
01:54:53,907 --> 01:54:53,947
Speaker 15: What?

2358
01:54:54,187 --> 01:54:54,507
Speaker 2: Sharon?

2359
01:54:54,587 --> 01:54:54,987
Speaker 7: Why not?

2360
01:54:55,307 --> 01:54:57,227
Speaker 2: It's like it's like going for the high offer on

2361
01:54:57,307 --> 01:55:00,627
Speaker 2: the chase, isn't it. You're only here once? Probably, yeah,

2362
01:55:00,667 --> 01:55:03,747
Speaker 2: probably only here once. George Bell got to try last week,

2363
01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:06,107
Speaker 2: so he's in good try scoring form. All right, we're

2364
01:55:06,107 --> 01:55:08,107
Speaker 2: going to place that bet for you. The Bell Brothers

2365
01:55:08,187 --> 01:55:11,027
Speaker 2: to score three or more tries this afternoon. We'll keep

2366
01:55:11,067 --> 01:55:13,627
Speaker 2: our fingers crossed. If it comes home, we would be

2367
01:55:13,747 --> 01:55:17,027
Speaker 2: delighted to send you one nine hundred and fifty dollars.

2368
01:55:17,947 --> 01:55:19,827
Speaker 8: That sounds great, Thank you so much.

2369
01:55:20,347 --> 01:55:22,347
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sharon. Hold there for a bit longer and

2370
01:55:22,467 --> 01:55:23,747
Speaker 2: he's just going to make sure he's got all the

2371
01:55:23,827 --> 01:55:27,027
Speaker 2: details that he needs to place the bet on your behalf.

2372
01:55:27,147 --> 01:55:30,027
Speaker 2: And if you get a result, the winnings minus the

2373
01:55:30,107 --> 01:55:33,427
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty dollars steak, of course, is all yours.

2374
01:55:33,427 --> 01:55:35,347
Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week thanks to our mates

2375
01:55:35,467 --> 01:55:40,147
Speaker 2: at the tab and as always, please bet responsibly. It's

2376
01:55:40,227 --> 01:55:43,507
Speaker 2: quarter to three. The Ranfurly Shield has had four different

2377
01:55:43,627 --> 01:55:47,147
Speaker 2: homes in twenty twenty five. It nearly had a fifth

2378
01:55:47,187 --> 01:55:48,067
Speaker 2: one last weekend.

2379
01:55:48,707 --> 01:55:54,667
Speaker 27: Numbers to the left tall category. Hold on to the shelf.

2380
01:55:55,187 --> 01:56:00,467
Speaker 27: George Bell writes his neighbor too readfully sheld folklore. He

2381
01:56:00,707 --> 01:56:06,067
Speaker 27: flew it from Wellington this morning and he scores the betswitter.

2382
01:56:07,787 --> 01:56:09,147
Speaker 2: H We'll Sharon to be hoping for a lot more

2383
01:56:09,187 --> 01:56:11,307
Speaker 2: of that this afternoon. With the Bell Brothers, the Red

2384
01:56:11,347 --> 01:56:13,947
Speaker 2: and Blacks fending off Tasman right at the end last weekend.

2385
01:56:13,987 --> 01:56:17,067
Speaker 2: Today they welcome Otago to christ Church. Four thirty five

2386
01:56:17,387 --> 01:56:20,507
Speaker 2: Otago's first crack at the Loggerwood in four years. They

2387
01:56:20,587 --> 01:56:23,547
Speaker 2: last held the shield in twenty twenty, but only for

2388
01:56:23,667 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 2: a week. They beat Tattanaki thirty nineteen in Englewood, but

2389
01:56:27,787 --> 01:56:30,587
Speaker 2: the following weekend Hawksby came to Dunedin and ran out

2390
01:56:30,667 --> 01:56:34,427
Speaker 2: comfortable twenty eight points to nine winners. It's been four

2391
01:56:34,547 --> 01:56:36,787
Speaker 2: years since Otago even had a crack at the Shield.

2392
01:56:36,787 --> 01:56:38,667
Speaker 2: They come to christ Church in good form third on

2393
01:56:38,707 --> 01:56:43,067
Speaker 2: the table five wins from seven Canterbury though seven from seven.

2394
01:56:43,147 --> 01:56:45,707
Speaker 2: John Haggart played one hundred and eighteen games for Otago

2395
01:56:45,827 --> 01:56:49,027
Speaker 2: across eight seasons, won the NPC in nineteen ninety one.

2396
01:56:49,107 --> 01:56:53,227
Speaker 2: He provides expert comments in our christ Church based commentaries

2397
01:56:53,427 --> 01:56:57,467
Speaker 2: on Goldsport and iHeartRadio. Look, I know you live in

2398
01:56:57,547 --> 01:56:59,667
Speaker 2: christ Church now, Hags, but surely you want Otaga to

2399
01:56:59,747 --> 01:56:59,987
Speaker 2: win this.

2400
01:57:01,547 --> 01:57:02,227
Speaker 8: It is funny.

2401
01:57:02,627 --> 01:57:04,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to put in both camps really because

2402
01:57:04,507 --> 01:57:06,987
Speaker 5: the end up coaching Canterbury. The only way to get

2403
01:57:07,027 --> 01:57:08,307
Speaker 5: hold of the shield and get a sniff of the

2404
01:57:08,347 --> 01:57:10,787
Speaker 5: shield when I was going from a target it was

2405
01:57:10,827 --> 01:57:13,547
Speaker 5: to move to christ Church. So I was fortunate enough

2406
01:57:13,627 --> 01:57:16,507
Speaker 5: to challenge but never quite make it with a Targer.

2407
01:57:16,547 --> 01:57:19,267
Speaker 5: But when I come to christ Church, yeah, minutes to

2408
01:57:19,787 --> 01:57:22,587
Speaker 5: win it and lose it as a coach, and certainly

2409
01:57:22,827 --> 01:57:25,227
Speaker 5: tasted tasted pretty pretty nice when you had that shield

2410
01:57:25,307 --> 01:57:26,347
Speaker 5: under you under your belt.

2411
01:57:26,707 --> 01:57:29,227
Speaker 2: You reckon otago are a chance this afternoon?

2412
01:57:30,667 --> 01:57:31,427
Speaker 8: Well absolutely.

2413
01:57:31,507 --> 01:57:33,347
Speaker 5: I think one of the things that you find with

2414
01:57:33,387 --> 01:57:34,947
Speaker 5: a targer, like I think was in the fifties when

2415
01:57:34,987 --> 01:57:36,587
Speaker 5: I was down there, that they hadn't won it before.

2416
01:57:36,627 --> 01:57:39,027
Speaker 5: And there's a whole whole generation of people that have

2417
01:57:39,187 --> 01:57:42,267
Speaker 5: never ever seen the shield, so they understand the significance

2418
01:57:42,267 --> 01:57:45,307
Speaker 5: and the importance of it. And I think Mark Brown's

2419
01:57:45,347 --> 01:57:48,107
Speaker 5: got got a team functioning really really well this year.

2420
01:57:48,467 --> 01:57:49,867
Speaker 8: Full of confidence. They'll come up.

2421
01:57:49,947 --> 01:57:52,067
Speaker 5: They'll give it one hundred percent. They know how important

2422
01:57:52,067 --> 01:57:55,347
Speaker 5: it is for the attager public. So there'll be a

2423
01:57:55,387 --> 01:57:57,267
Speaker 5: lot on the line this afternoon for those are target. Boy,

2424
01:57:57,307 --> 01:57:59,387
Speaker 5: was it you know, once in a lifetime opportunity. I

2425
01:57:59,467 --> 01:58:01,547
Speaker 5: know when I played down there, you know, I was

2426
01:58:01,627 --> 01:58:04,187
Speaker 5: in the great Canterbury era when they held it for

2427
01:58:04,267 --> 01:58:07,187
Speaker 5: twenty five I think defenses, and then in the mid

2428
01:58:07,227 --> 01:58:10,707
Speaker 5: to late eighties sixty one defenses. So you know, we

2429
01:58:11,067 --> 01:58:13,667
Speaker 5: hardly ever got a challenge, So it doesn't come around

2430
01:58:13,747 --> 01:58:16,187
Speaker 5: very often sometimes, and when it does, you've got to

2431
01:58:16,227 --> 01:58:17,827
Speaker 5: have a real crack and I know the tagger balls

2432
01:58:17,827 --> 01:58:18,347
Speaker 5: will be up for it.

2433
01:58:18,787 --> 01:58:20,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I can see here, you had a

2434
01:58:20,267 --> 01:58:22,387
Speaker 2: couple of Cracks had it while Auckland had it in

2435
01:58:22,467 --> 01:58:25,667
Speaker 2: that incredible tenure of Theirs. You lost twenty seven seventeen

2436
01:58:26,227 --> 01:58:29,307
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight and then forty five nine in

2437
01:58:29,547 --> 01:58:31,787
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. But you look at that Auckland side in

2438
01:58:31,907 --> 01:58:34,867
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety Hacks, it's just it's an all black side.

2439
01:58:34,947 --> 01:58:38,107
Speaker 2: McDow fit's Patrick Brown, the Weetons, the Brooks, Michael Jones,

2440
01:58:38,147 --> 01:58:41,267
Speaker 2: Grant Fox, Craig Innis vaying a Twigamala, John Kerw and

2441
01:58:41,347 --> 01:58:43,187
Speaker 2: Terry Wright. What are you supposed to do against a

2442
01:58:43,267 --> 01:58:43,787
Speaker 2: team like that?

2443
01:58:44,987 --> 01:58:48,267
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, fantastic team, fantastic players, and you

2444
01:58:48,347 --> 01:58:49,987
Speaker 5: know why they held it for so long. They were

2445
01:58:50,267 --> 01:58:52,347
Speaker 5: it was like Planiel Blacks and I remember it, you know,

2446
01:58:52,987 --> 01:58:55,227
Speaker 5: very clearly as if it was yesterday. Some of those

2447
01:58:55,867 --> 01:58:58,427
Speaker 5: some of those players, I think now today what we've got,

2448
01:58:58,547 --> 01:59:01,347
Speaker 5: We've got players spread much more throughout the country and

2449
01:59:01,827 --> 01:59:03,547
Speaker 5: it's a great sign that we got you know, size

2450
01:59:03,707 --> 01:59:07,227
Speaker 5: like Southon for example, and not over a white cuttle,

2451
01:59:07,547 --> 01:59:09,827
Speaker 5: and so anyone can bet anyone on a given day.

2452
01:59:09,987 --> 01:59:14,107
Speaker 5: So that's what makes the Shield so special and such

2453
01:59:14,147 --> 01:59:15,947
Speaker 5: a such a fun competition to be involved in.

2454
01:59:16,547 --> 01:59:19,147
Speaker 2: From a sorry a challenges point of view in particular,

2455
01:59:19,227 --> 01:59:21,187
Speaker 2: I know you probably say, look, it's just another week,

2456
01:59:21,467 --> 01:59:23,747
Speaker 2: we do all the same things. You know, it's just

2457
01:59:23,787 --> 01:59:26,907
Speaker 2: another game. But were you able to really achieve that

2458
01:59:26,947 --> 01:59:29,067
Speaker 2: as a player or a coach when you knew that

2459
01:59:29,187 --> 01:59:31,267
Speaker 2: there was a ran Fully Shield Challenge at the end

2460
01:59:31,307 --> 01:59:31,747
Speaker 2: of that week.

2461
01:59:33,067 --> 01:59:34,227
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a great question.

2462
01:59:34,347 --> 01:59:34,587
Speaker 8: Pine.

2463
01:59:34,707 --> 01:59:37,627
Speaker 5: I think everyone tries things that they think are going

2464
01:59:37,707 --> 01:59:39,827
Speaker 5: to it's going to be the magic solution, and at

2465
01:59:39,827 --> 01:59:41,347
Speaker 5: the end of the day, I don't think there is

2466
01:59:41,387 --> 01:59:45,507
Speaker 5: actually a magic solution to unlocking the key to a

2467
01:59:45,627 --> 01:59:47,867
Speaker 5: victory for the Renfully sure know, Lori mains in eighty

2468
01:59:47,907 --> 01:59:50,707
Speaker 5: four was the first challenge I was involved, and luckily

2469
01:59:50,747 --> 01:59:53,107
Speaker 5: I was sitting on the embankment Lancaster Park that day

2470
01:59:53,147 --> 01:59:54,587
Speaker 5: and the reserves and they didn't put me on. We

2471
01:59:54,707 --> 01:59:56,347
Speaker 5: got about forty odd points.

2472
01:59:56,747 --> 01:59:58,667
Speaker 27: His idea was.

2473
01:59:58,667 --> 02:00:01,747
Speaker 5: Would have a carbohydrate diet that week and would take

2474
02:00:01,787 --> 02:00:03,587
Speaker 5: the train up and would all be focused and we'd

2475
02:00:03,627 --> 02:00:05,987
Speaker 5: all perform well. It didn't work, So that was one

2476
02:00:06,067 --> 02:00:08,307
Speaker 5: of the pieces of the magic formula that was tried

2477
02:00:08,347 --> 02:00:12,947
Speaker 5: and was biffed out into the beyond. So yeah, I

2478
02:00:12,987 --> 02:00:15,787
Speaker 5: think as a coach and a player, you just got

2479
02:00:15,867 --> 02:00:18,267
Speaker 5: to focus on what you do well. And I think

2480
02:00:18,347 --> 02:00:21,347
Speaker 5: in Targo's case this afternoon, you know, they won five

2481
02:00:21,387 --> 02:00:23,107
Speaker 5: out of seven a lot of confidence. There were some

2482
02:00:23,307 --> 02:00:25,627
Speaker 5: very good players there. I love the way the likes

2483
02:00:25,667 --> 02:00:28,827
Speaker 5: of Pleedger and Miller are controlling the game. They've also

2484
02:00:28,867 --> 02:00:31,307
Speaker 5: got a rule of attacking mindset, so I'm looking forward

2485
02:00:31,347 --> 02:00:34,667
Speaker 5: to watching them continue that this afternoon. Now if they don't,

2486
02:00:34,867 --> 02:00:37,147
Speaker 5: if they don't have a crack, you know the old

2487
02:00:37,227 --> 02:00:38,947
Speaker 5: saying nothing, we've meatured nothing games. So they're gonna have

2488
02:00:38,987 --> 02:00:41,307
Speaker 5: a crack at Canbury this afternoon. So I think they'll

2489
02:00:41,307 --> 02:00:44,387
Speaker 5: stick to their pattern, stick to how they've played this year,

2490
02:00:44,747 --> 02:00:46,987
Speaker 5: and hopefully come away with the goal at the end.

2491
02:00:47,547 --> 02:00:51,227
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it obviously clearly still means something, doesn't it. John.

2492
02:00:51,267 --> 02:00:53,347
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the scenes of the teams

2493
02:00:53,387 --> 02:00:55,107
Speaker 2: and we've had quite a few this year. The teams

2494
02:00:55,147 --> 02:00:57,067
Speaker 2: that have won it, you know, when when White Cuttall

2495
02:00:57,067 --> 02:00:58,867
Speaker 2: won it, when South w W. I don't think Canterbury

2496
02:00:58,947 --> 02:01:00,947
Speaker 2: celebrated too much when they won it, but it clearly

2497
02:01:01,027 --> 02:01:03,067
Speaker 2: means a lot to Tasman last week and they almost

2498
02:01:03,187 --> 02:01:07,347
Speaker 2: won it. This log's got a special lust about it

2499
02:01:07,507 --> 02:01:08,227
Speaker 2: still hasn't it.

2500
02:01:09,147 --> 02:01:09,267
Speaker 8: Oh?

2501
02:01:09,427 --> 02:01:12,227
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and long may that continue. You know, I Rember

2502
02:01:12,427 --> 02:01:14,707
Speaker 5: as a young lad ninety seventy four, I was living

2503
02:01:14,707 --> 02:01:18,707
Speaker 5: in Timaru and South Canterbury. We knocked over Marlborough and

2504
02:01:18,787 --> 02:01:23,107
Speaker 5: they brought that home and that excitement in my life

2505
02:01:23,987 --> 02:01:27,307
Speaker 5: has never never waned, and it's certainly still there for

2506
02:01:28,027 --> 02:01:30,187
Speaker 5: the youngsters of today and even the old diggers that

2507
02:01:30,267 --> 02:01:34,067
Speaker 5: are watching, they love watching the shit Shield challenges. So yeah,

2508
02:01:34,067 --> 02:01:36,267
Speaker 5: if you're listening and you're wanting to get along for

2509
02:01:36,347 --> 02:01:38,467
Speaker 5: a game this afternoon, get along on this the christ

2510
02:01:38,507 --> 02:01:41,587
Speaker 5: your son and enjoy a great, great afternoon forty.

2511
02:01:41,707 --> 02:01:43,387
Speaker 2: We'll tune in to you guys calling it on gold

2512
02:01:43,427 --> 02:01:45,547
Speaker 2: Sport and iHeart Radio. Really good to Chad Hags, Thanks

2513
02:01:45,587 --> 02:01:47,347
Speaker 2: for taking the time mate, have a great call this afternoon.

2514
02:01:48,107 --> 02:01:49,467
Speaker 5: Cheers, Thanks Bonie, all the.

2515
02:01:49,467 --> 02:01:52,027
Speaker 2: Best, mate, John hag It there Otago stalwart for mc

2516
02:01:52,067 --> 02:01:54,867
Speaker 2: cannbury coach of course and part of our commentary team

2517
02:01:54,907 --> 02:01:57,867
Speaker 2: on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio, bringing you in PC and

2518
02:01:57,987 --> 02:02:00,867
Speaker 2: in this case ran fully shield coverage this afternoon four

2519
02:02:00,867 --> 02:02:03,587
Speaker 2: point thirty five in christ You just kick off time

2520
02:02:03,987 --> 02:02:06,787
Speaker 2: nine to three New Stalks dB, it's.

2521
02:02:06,627 --> 02:02:10,107
Speaker 1: Down to the line. You made a call on ten

2522
02:02:10,227 --> 02:02:13,907
Speaker 1: eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pine News Talk zemb.

2523
02:02:14,307 --> 02:02:16,347
Speaker 2: Coming up five to three. That's pretty much us updating

2524
02:02:16,387 --> 02:02:19,067
Speaker 2: you on halftime scores and the Buddings MPC, Coundies, Manico

2525
02:02:19,187 --> 02:02:22,787
Speaker 2: Lee Auckland thirty five fourteen and Pocka Coe and Wellington

2526
02:02:22,907 --> 02:02:27,027
Speaker 2: forty two points to five ahead of Southland. Six converted

2527
02:02:27,147 --> 02:02:29,827
Speaker 2: tries for Wellington in the first half at Jerry Collins

2528
02:02:29,867 --> 02:02:33,187
Speaker 2: Stadium out in Pottydoor. Quick look, get to the show tomorrow.

2529
02:02:33,707 --> 02:02:38,267
Speaker 2: Is the Bleddersloe Cup under threat from the Wallabyes over

2530
02:02:38,267 --> 02:02:39,507
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks and I talked to the

2531
02:02:39,587 --> 02:02:41,987
Speaker 2: voice of the Wallaby Shawn Maloney tomorrow and Grace Wiky

2532
02:02:42,027 --> 02:02:44,907
Speaker 2: from the Silver Ferns after what's been a pretty tumultuous

2533
02:02:45,227 --> 02:02:48,027
Speaker 2: time for the team and the Tiny Jamison Trophy over

2534
02:02:48,107 --> 02:02:51,027
Speaker 2: the week ahead. Thanks for listening in tim beverage after three.

2535
02:02:51,467 --> 02:02:54,707
Speaker 2: Thanks to Andy McDonald for producing what is our exit

2536
02:02:54,827 --> 02:02:55,267
Speaker 2: song today?

2537
02:02:55,307 --> 02:02:55,507
Speaker 20: Mate?

2538
02:02:55,547 --> 02:02:58,507
Speaker 13: Well one hundred and forty seven is the total misspelt

2539
02:02:58,547 --> 02:03:01,027
Speaker 13: Bledderslow cuts that has come through on the tech on

2540
02:03:01,107 --> 02:03:04,667
Speaker 13: the text machine, which I imagine would leave Lord Bleddersloy

2541
02:03:04,747 --> 02:03:08,107
Speaker 13: absolutely rolling in his grave. So the the only appropriate

2542
02:03:08,187 --> 02:03:10,107
Speaker 13: song I could think of was the two thousand and

2543
02:03:10,147 --> 02:03:12,867
Speaker 13: eight hit from the ting Tings That's Not My Name.

2544
02:03:15,307 --> 02:03:15,707
Speaker 2: I Love It.

2545
02:03:16,107 --> 02:03:16,627
Speaker 3: Cinemark.

2546
02:04:32,707 --> 02:04:35,867
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