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Speaker 1: Major hurdles to free trade are holding back our red

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Speaker 1: meat exports. This is according to Beef and Lamb and

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Speaker 1: also the Meat Industry Association. New report from MBI and

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Speaker 1: Beef and Lamb estimates non tariff trade barriers are costing

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Speaker 1: US more than a billion bucks a year. Kate Acklin

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Speaker 1: from Beef and Lamb with me. Now, Hey, Kate, morning, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: good morning. So what are we when you say non

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Speaker 1: tariff trade barriers? What are you talking about specifically and

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Speaker 1: which countries?

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Speaker 2: Well, so, non tariff barriers are things like inspections or

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Speaker 2: environmental requirements or paperwork requirements, and sometimes those measures they

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Speaker 2: serve a really important purpose. They're make sure that food

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Speaker 2: is safe to eat. But when they're not science based

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Speaker 2: or transparent, then actually they are just a barrier and

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Speaker 2: a cost to trade. And you know that adds on certainty,

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Speaker 2: It adds cost for both farmers and exporters. So you

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Speaker 2: know this report highlights one point five billion dollars a

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Speaker 2: year is what those non tariff barriers are costing our sector.

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Speaker 1: And which country.

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Speaker 2: So it's really broadly spread. Actually, there's no sort of

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Speaker 2: one particular one that sticks out, and I think the

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Speaker 2: whole purpose of This report is just to highlight those

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Speaker 2: areas that can be worked on.

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Speaker 1: Are they using them because if if they're really broaden

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Speaker 1: everyone does it. I mean, are they using them on

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Speaker 1: purpose to try and restrict trade when they can't do tariffs?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: There is absolutely an aspect of that. Yes, So you

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Speaker 2: know what this report, this reports entitled Barriers to trade,

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Speaker 2: So it looks at that both the tariffs and the

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Speaker 2: non tariff barriers that we're facing. And you know, a

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Speaker 2: ten point four billion dollar sector is what the red

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Speaker 2: meat industry is worth, So you know one point five

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Speaker 2: billion is significant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt it's significant. How hard will it

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Speaker 1: be to try and get you know, all these disparate

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Speaker 1: different countries with a myriad different regulations around inspections, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: How hard is it to try and get them all

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Speaker 1: to change? There is based on what probably is a

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Speaker 1: subjective view, is it not. You know, we might think

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Speaker 1: that their inspections are over zealous, but they, on the

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Speaker 1: other hand might think that they're just fine. And we

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Speaker 1: have quite strict you know, environmental and biosecurity standards in

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Speaker 1: New Zealand too.

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Speaker 2: Look, we absolutely do and you know, we work very

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Speaker 2: closely with the ministryes for Primary Industries and Ministry for

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Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs and Trade and just to make sure that

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Speaker 2: any of those requirements that we're facing going into those

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Speaker 2: countries are science based. And you know, this report actually

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Speaker 2: is quite helpful for them to identify where those hot

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Speaker 2: spots are. And I think I heard yesterday that the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade is working on one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four different non tariff barriers across the

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Speaker 2: world that our sector faces. So you know, it is

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Speaker 2: a big issue and the highlights it's.

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Speaker 1: A big job. Kate appreciate that. Thank you very much. Kate,

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Speaker 1: Aklan Beef and Lamb New Zealand share with me this

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