1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Remy Morgan Milf from Milford is here. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Hey Remy, Hi Ryan, how's it going. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: You have a really good thank you thanks for being 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: on the show with us. How did the market three? 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot to do yesterday We've had company results, 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: but we're the main thing, of course, was the RBNZ. 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: How did the market react? 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so today's Reserve Bank meeting that was the first 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: since November last year, given we've had the summer holiday 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: and the fifty basis point cut today was largely expected 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: and almost fully priced in. So what was actually more 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: interest was the rbn zaid forward track. So this was 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: revised down little, implying that the rate cuts will come 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: in slightly quicker than what was previously expected by the 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: rbn Z. So their track is now forecasting two twenty 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: five basis point cuts by July this year and a 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: cache erate of around three point one percent by the 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: end of the year, which is down from three point 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: five to five percent previously. Now that's actually a lot 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: more closely aligned to what the market had already been 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: pricing in going into the meeting. Because of that, the 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: market reaction was pretty subdued and there was really no 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: major or unexpected moves to call out. The next meeting 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: is on the ninth of April, and another twenty five 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: bases point cut is essentially fully priced by the market, 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: but what actually happens will depend on the data and 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: what unfolds between now and then. 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Remy, if we think about what's happening in the US, 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of uncertainty to what extent that 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: influenced the Reserve Bank's decision today. 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. So the US Federal Reserve 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: is currently on pores with its interest rate easing cycle, 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: and this was something that the RBNZ did discuss, as 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: the market is now pricing in less cuts in the 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: US than back at the time of their meeting in November, 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: and this has implications for the currency. We've already seen 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: the New Zealand dollar quite a bit weaker against the 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: US since November. There's also quite a lot of uncertainty 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: around the US tariffs, and the RBNZ also discuss these risks. Now, 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: the impact of trade restrictions really remains quite uncertain, but 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: it might be something that needs to be factored into 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: future monetary policy responses. Now, these things can take a 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: bit of time to play out, and we'll see the 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: z RB and z respond accordingly. 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: We also had the Reserve Bank of Australia use today. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: How does this contrast with what's happening here in New Zealand. 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so yesterday the RBA finally cut its policy rate, 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: but only by twenty five basis points to four point 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: one percent. Now, this was its first cut to this cycle. Now, 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: as we know in New Zealand, we've already been cutting 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: since August last year and from a much higher peak 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: cash rate of five point five percent. And the tone 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: of the RBA implied that there could be a slower 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: pace of rate cuts from here than what the market 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: was pricing, which obviously compares to a slightly faster pace 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: now expected by the rbn Z in New Zealand. Another 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: key difference is that in Australia, the lays the market 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: remains much tighter, and the RBA actually revised down its 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: peak unemployment forecast to four point two percent, which compares 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: to the expectation of five point two percent peak unemployment 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. So I think based on the current data, 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: it's fair to say that we could see some continued 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: divergence between the easing cycle in New Zealand and Australia, 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: but again this remains data dependent. 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Certainly sounds like it, Remy, Thank you very much for that. 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: That's Remy Morgan from Milford Asset Management. For more from 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to news Talks. It'd 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio