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Speaker 1: Let's talk about smoking and vaping. According to a new survey,

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Speaker 1: vaping may not be cool anymore. The annual ASH Year

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Speaker 1: ten Snapshot survey looks at the smoking and the vaping

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Speaker 1: habits of fourteen and fifteen year olds every year, and

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Speaker 1: according to the latest one, the number of year ten

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Speaker 1: students who regularly vape has fallen from fourteen to eleven percent,

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Speaker 1: and the number who vape daily has fallen from something

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Speaker 1: like nine to seven percent. Tim O'Connor is the Auckland

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Speaker 1: Grammar headmaster and with us now, hey, Tim, hi, are

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Speaker 1: you very well? Thank you for you seeing this few

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Speaker 1: of the kids vaping.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. I don't know. I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going on to the choice. I don't know whether it's

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Speaker 2: us being more effective, or the messages happening, or if

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Speaker 2: it's just random.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could be a number of things. Right.

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Speaker 1: What's been suggested by beagle Hole, who runs ASH I

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Speaker 1: think he's the chair, is that it feels to him

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Speaker 1: as if vaping has become less cool. What are you

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Speaker 1: picking up on that front?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're certainly not seeing it as often as we

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Speaker 2: normally work as we have in the past, I should say,

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Speaker 2: which is a good thing, and I suspect he's probably right.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's not talked about as much and

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Speaker 2: so we're seeing less of it. That said, we've also

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Speaker 2: changed all sorts of things or in our school, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure other schools have done the same, where you know,

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Speaker 2: you've just reduced created toilet structures that actually are just

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Speaker 2: individual cubicles so that there are no gathering areas for

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Speaker 2: the low lives.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, Okay, so this is this is potentially

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Speaker 1: a policing problem from a policing solution from you guys.

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Speaker 1: The other thing also is apparently the disposable vapes have

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Speaker 1: made it really hard for people to be able to

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Speaker 1: get their hands on a vape. Right there comes a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more expensive. So are you are you hearing

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Speaker 1: that at all?

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Speaker 2: No, not hearing that. But it could be it's probably

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Speaker 2: too soon for us to be getting some really good

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Speaker 2: patterns and that type of behavior. But look, there there's

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Speaker 2: been a remarkable shift and a decline in vaping and

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Speaker 2: a decline in conversations about vaping, which is a good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess what I'm getting to is that

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Speaker 1: it seems like maybe a confluence of things. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, if we're talking about whether things are cool

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Speaker 1: having an impact, then what worries me is that apparently

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Speaker 1: the cigy's are cool again, and so you might see

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Speaker 1: it an uptick there in the number of kids smoking.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing that at all?

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Speaker 2: No, not seeing cigarettes on school related things or on campus.

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Speaker 2: But yet hopefully you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong with a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, man, I really appreciate your insights.

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Speaker 1: To O'Connor Auckland Grammar head master.

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