1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, when you've got fires that big, you're not 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: putting the whole thing out, but you are trying to 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: control the fire. So you're working on a particular fire 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: edge and that and that's to direct it. So you're 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to stop it from burning towards maybe a main 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: highway that's that route and service for communities. And they 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: really remote communities, so you don't if that fire impacted 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: those highways, they would be really isolated and they had 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: to evacuate a lot of people before we arrive. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: So how do you do it? 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: So you're using a combination of things. You're using aircraft 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: to bomb from from from the air to bomb, yeah, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: water bomb, a water bomb yeah yeah yeah, water bomb 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: with you know, buckets under slum yeah, and then but 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: also troops on the ground. So far fighters on the 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: ground effectively laying kilometers of hose along the fire edge. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: The average hose lay that we would put in would 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: be two kilometers long. 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Rolling it back up again would be tough. Yeah. 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they come in boxes or we call them pineapples, 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: and they call them they call them melons and Canada. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: But basically, yeah, you're you're you're running out the hose 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: and connecting it up and and when you go to 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: pack it up, they're in thirty medal links, so you 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: basically roll it into what turns out to be a 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: shape of a melon, and then you clip a couple 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: together and put them around your neck and you carry 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: them off to the next fire basically. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: And all of that's on foot. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: That's all on foot. Yeah, through that, you know, through 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: that rough terrain, so you know, lifting your your your 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: feet high to get over that swampy. 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Ground and stuffesh, that is a workout. Yeah right, okay, 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: So are you arriving before the fire or after the 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: fire like a you denting down hot spots. 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: After the fire? Yeah. Yeah, when a fire is doing 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: a large run like that, you don't really want to 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: be it's not it's not safe to be there. And 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: when it's doing a run, it's usually a wind driven 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: for us, so it's not a safe place to be, okay. 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: So you're there making sure it doesn't arc up again. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Yeah basically yeah, yeaheah right, yeah, just working that hot 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: edge and sometimes you know, you do get a bit 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: of fire active life fire activity where it just flare 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: up and you know, depending on how how much activity, 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: we can attack it and if it's too dangerous then 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: we'll back off and yeah and go to a safe place. Yeah. 48 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: How does it differ, Well, does it differ much compared 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: to here, Like do fires differ? 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: No, Well, the fuel, the fuel can change. Obviously, the 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: fuel types we have here are different. I guess the 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: key difference is the conuity continuity of fuel. So when 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: I say continuity, you know huge extensive forests that go 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: as you know, as far as you can see and further. Yeah, 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: whereas over here we tend to have we do have forests, 56 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: We've got you know, mountain ranges with all types of 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: vegetation on them. But generally there's things that are going 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: to stop it along the way, either man made so 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: roads or rivers and stuff like that, or even just 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: shingle scree slopes and stuff like that. So, yeah, the 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: key difference in New Zealand we have a lot of 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: barriers in place.