1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof love where you live, news talks. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning and a six half to five. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Great to have your company. As always, new subjects for 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: the kids in school. We'll look at that before six 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: this morning. We're live to the US. They've got photos 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: of a young guy they reckon killed Charlie Kirk, Elliott 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Smith on the ABS this weekend, and we're in the 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: UK where the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein claims another scalp. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: The agenda. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: It is Friday the twelfth and September first. To the US, 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: the FBI has been holding a presser on Charlie Kirk. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: We were able to track the movements of the shooter. 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: We have tracked his movements onto the campus, through the stairwells, 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: up to the roof, across the roof to a shooting location. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: After the shooting, we were able to track his movements 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: as he moved to the other side of the building, 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: jumped off of the building, and fled. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: They've got a palm print, they've got a forearm print, 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: they've got a shoe print. Apparently so tracking the net 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: is closing in on him. Trump posthumous. I mean they 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: are mates, awarding him the Presidential Middle of Freedom. 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 5: This is a dark moment for America. 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk traveled. 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: The nation joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate. 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: His mission was to bring young people into the political process, 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 5: which he did better than anybody ever. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: Now you might have missed this because of everything else 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: that's been going on in the world, But commemorations underway 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: across the US for the twenty fourth anniversary of nine 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: to eleven. Pete Higgsyth's been speaking at Arlington. 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: On this day twenty four years ago. We suffered. In 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: the years since we have endured. Our service and sacrifice 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: have forged our character, and today we stand in hope 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: for the future of our great nation. 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Epstein strikes again and the UK starm has had to 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: sack Peter Mandelssohn as the ambassadors to the US. The 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: emails showing he called Jeffrey his best pale. 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 6: The emails show is to speak that the depth and 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 6: extent of Lord Mallison's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is materially 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 6: different from that known at the time of his appointments. 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 6: In particular, mister speaker Lord Bullison's suggestion that Jeffrey Apstein's 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 6: first conviction was wrongful and should be challenged is new information. 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: Yes, said he should never have been charged. We'll get 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: to Vincent mcavinie on that before quarter two this morning. 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: And Ari and Charles have had the first tea sit 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: down since February last year together lasted fifteen minutes. No 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: comment from either parties on what they actually talked about. 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: Whether it was all comee by our and you know 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: the family back together again for Christmas, No idea, but 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: at least they're talking nine up to five. 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust. To start your day, It's 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: early edition with Brian Bridge and one roof Love, where 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: you Live News Talks. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: The'd be nine two nine two the numbers to text 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: love hearing from you old mate. Stuart Nash went a 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: bit far with the with the rebrand, don't you Reckon 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: made a bit of a tit of himself personally. I 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: don't actually have a problem with the word all the 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: tea word. You know, that's just a preference thing. But 61 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: and also watching the news last night, I laughed, you know, 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: it's funny. I just find a little bit funny. Maybe 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm immature. I probably am a little bit immature, but 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: I reckon half of Kiwi households watching that would have 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: also been giggling when they had to say those words. However, 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: the problem for Nash is that Winston's old school. He 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: finds this stuff crass. He's got a vocabulary the length 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: of my arm, and he prefers to use that over 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: cuss words. Did you catch when you know when Van 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Velden in the house used the sea word? His genuine 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: visceral disgust at using words like that, No thank you 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: from Winston Peters. But there's a good reason why Nash 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: is doing this. He's doing this because labor and hipkins, well, 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: the left, let's just say, the left so wrapped up 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: in university gobbledygoog woke speak that you actually can't understand 76 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: what they're saying. Sometimes, have you actually tried to listen. 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: It happens with Chloe Swarbroog. I've told her this, I've said, 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand what you're saying. Why can't people just 79 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: talk normal anymore? You know? Why can't you just say 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: society is getting fat because reading too much junk fruit? 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Why can't you say that Is that really that offensive? 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: Why can't you say a woman as a female doesn't 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: mean you don't support trans people from being who they 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 2: want to be. I certainly do you know? Why can't 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: you say pregnant woman, not pregnant person. Allowing somebody else 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: to be who they want to be doesn't mean that 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: you have to stop being who you are, you know 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: what I mean? Anyway, back to Nash, like any public 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: figure who wants longevity, you've got to master the art 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: of transformation, don't you. And that's what he's trying to 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: do here. Madonna did it over the years. Look at 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: early two thousands share versus back in the eighties. All right, 93 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: Winston has done it. The ultimate chameleon, switching camps, changes 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: his mind on stuff, same values, but different age means 95 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: a different slogan. So Nash may have strayed a little 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: bit too far south in these comments in the last 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: few days and lost his job in the process, But 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: New Zealand First supporters actually won't care when he is 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: eventually anointed by Winston Peters. The congregation will follow Brian 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Bridge News Talk's edb nineteen nineteen. The number sex It's 101 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: gone eleven minutes after five. Some of the NCAA subjects 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: are fascinating, well, actually it's quite good. Sciences. You'll get 103 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: primary industries if you're in year thirteen. Some of the 104 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: ones that you might question sociology in social sciences, civics, 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: politics and philosophy. How do we feel about that? We'll 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: talk to principle just before six on all of this. 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Next up, though, we are live to the US for 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: the latest on Charlie Kirk. It is twelve after five, 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: News Talk SEDB. 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Views and Views you trust to start your day. It's 111 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Brian Bridge and one Route Love 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: where you live, News Talks EDB. 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: So's I've fourteen and some good news for your Friday morning. 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Something to celebrate this after Jetstar announced an extra six 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: hundred thousand flights across the country and the Tasman in 116 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: the last week. You know in New Zealand sort of 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: limping along, but other airlines are coming in to fill 118 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: the void, and international services planned for this northern winter 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: season are going to exceed the twenty twenty nine, sorry 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen number by three and a half percent, so 121 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: we will have three and a half percent more international 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: flights in and out of New Zealand than we did 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: pre COVID and big focus on when do we get 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: our tourism numbers back to pre COVID. Well, this will 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: help with that people coming here for summer. It's great news. 126 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: In the South Island you're leading the charge. Christ Church 127 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Airport northern winter you're up fourteen point seven percent on 128 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: last year. Queenstown Airport, jeez, you've been smashing at Queenstown Airport. 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: International services for northern winter twenty five are going to 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: be thirty seven point two percent of Northern winter twenty nineteen. 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: It's massive. Auckland Airport you're going to be up six 132 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: point four percent. Ram Bridge just go to the US 133 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: now where a Manhart's still underway for the keller of 134 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 2: the conservative activist Charlie Kirk. David Smith is the Washington 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: bureau chief of the Guardian with US Live this morning. David, 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, David. We understand there's been an FBI press 137 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: conference held in the last wee while. What are they saying. 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: I think we're having some troubles getting to David. We'll 139 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: get them back on the line as soon as we can. 140 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: So good news about tourism. We'll come back to David 141 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: in a second, good news about tourism, and according to builders, 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: they reckon good news about the construction sector. Two contrary 143 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: to what you have been told, apparently by the media. 144 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: In fact, this is the Master Builders twenty twenty five 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: State of the Sector report. They sort of finger the 146 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: media and say, despite the media narrative over the past 147 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: two years, their survey one thousand builders and homeowners, they reckon, actually, 148 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: people are pretty had and work is picking up. So 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: seventy two percent of homeowners reporting no significant delays with 150 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: their builds. When there are delays, guess who's responsible. It's consents, 151 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: it's councils. There's a bit of whether there's a bit 152 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: of product availability, remember the whole jib thing. Anyway, the 153 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: upside of all of this is that sixty three percent 154 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: of builders think the economy is going to get better 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: in the next year. That's good. Sixty four percent are 156 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: reporting strong or steady order books. That's up from fifty 157 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: one percent last year, so that's pretty significant. And Master 158 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: Bilder is talking up a new phase or momentum coming 159 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: for the construction sector, and boy don't they need that. 160 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes after five, we'll get back to David Smith 161 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: in the US on Charlie Kirk. David's the FBI has 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: just held a press conference. What's the latest on this 163 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: man hunt? 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the FBI released images of this suspect. They 165 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 7: say they've recovered a weapon, but otherwise the manhunt continues. 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 7: There have been various rumors flying around about, you know, 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 7: what's something engraved on its bullet that is certainly not 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 7: confirmed so far, and we still don't know much about 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 7: who this is, what the motive might be, but certainly, 170 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 7: you know, as you can imagine, a tragedy that is 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 7: dominating many headlines and much attention in America right now. 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: David, what do they think was inscribed on the bullet? 173 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 7: Well, there were some media reports suggesting that there were 174 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 7: statements there about fascism and about transgender ideology and so on. 175 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 7: I think some members of Congress on the Republican side 176 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 7: have been quick to seize on that, but just to underline, 177 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 7: that has not been officially confirmed. So yeah, it's very 178 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 7: hard at this moment to discern the veracity of that, 179 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 7: and I think worth recalling the in other major incidents 180 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 7: such as this, like the attempts of assassination of Donald Trump. 181 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 7: You get a social media pylon of people rushing to 182 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: ascribe the motives. Once I try to blame the other, 183 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 7: and then later we often discover maybe that was wrong 184 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: or false, or maybe the motives who are quite complex, 185 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: or I think in the case of the first Trump 186 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 7: assassination attempt, we you know last year, we still don't 187 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 7: really know what the motive was. 188 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: David, appreciate that update. Thanks so much for being with me. 189 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: David Smith, Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. The nets 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: closing in, they've got a footwear impression, they've got a 191 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: photo of the guy they think did it or a 192 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: strong person of interest, and a forearm print as well. 193 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: It is nineteen after five News Talks. He'd be Elliott 194 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: Smith on the AB's next, The News. 195 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: You Need this morning and the in depth Analysis Early 196 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one Route Love where you 197 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Live News Talks. 198 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: They'd be twenty one after five, Big week in the 199 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: sport here, we've got the AB's in the box at 200 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: the Caketon, we've got the warriors in orc will start 201 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: with the Abs. Elliot Smith, the News Talks, a big 202 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: voice of rugby with us this morning. Elliot, good morning Morning, Ryan, 203 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: your predictions this weekend? 204 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 8: Look, I think both teams have made a few changes, 205 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 8: but I think the All Blacks are given the consistency 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 8: have put forward in there, their Type five should be 207 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 8: good enough to win and that would return them the 208 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 8: Freedom Cup which they lost to South Africa last year 209 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 8: and a big step forward to winning the Rugby Championship. 210 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: Haven't the best of records in Wellington in recent times 211 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 8: against South Africa or at all, but I think the 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 8: All Blacks should be good enough to win this weekend 213 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 8: by a few points similar to last weekend. 214 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: I reckon and is it a big call putting a 215 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: deep bit onto a match of this caliber? 216 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 9: Yeah? 217 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 8: Well, I think usually the All Blacks are given them 218 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 8: a sort of softly softly approach, bring them off the 219 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 8: bench and get them used to test rugby. But Leroy 220 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 8: Carter is a player that's been built for the big stage. 221 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 8: He's played numerous World Sevens of in front of fans 222 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 8: around the globe. He played the Paris Olympics last year, 223 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 8: which didn't go overly well for the New Zealand seven side, 224 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 8: but that was in front of seventy five thousand Parisians. 225 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 8: So he's used to the big stage. He had a 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 8: great Super Rugby season. So the All Blacks have backdmen 227 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 8: to perform this weekend. So yeah, it's a bit of 228 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 8: a surprise to an extent, but he's, as I said, 229 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 8: used to playing on those big stages. 230 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: Previously looking forward to Elliot Elliott Smith News Talks HEB 231 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: Voice of Rugby with us and it is twenty two 232 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: minutes after five. Ryan Joden Nick Bewley News Talks HEB 233 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Sports Journalists style on the Wars and the Panthers at 234 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: Mount Smart this weekend, their first playoff of the season, 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: home advantage. But Nick, they're kind of being written off 236 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: by most, aren't they. 237 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 9: Good morning to you, Ryan. I mean that's a position 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 9: the Warrior is very comfortable and over the last thirty 239 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 9: years being written off by everyone. But luckier it is 240 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 9: fair to say going up against the team with the 241 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 9: caliber of Penrist, the four time defending premiers, they know 242 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 9: what it takes the point of the season, they're understandably favorites. 243 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 9: But the Warriors that they've got history in this position, 244 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 9: I know, probably have to go back a wee way, 245 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 9: but think about two thousand and eight as an example, 246 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 9: they were eighth going to the finals. They beat Melbourne 247 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 9: who are the top of the logs, so it is possible, 248 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 9: but it feels like the Warriors are going to have 249 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 9: to do something rather remarkable to get through to the 250 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 9: next round of the finals. But looking forward to it. 251 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Sam Herey has shown the flashes of promise. Will 252 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: he be invaluable to that? 253 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 9: Well, he has to play first Ryan, he's on the 254 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 9: extended reserves. As things down. He was sensational last week. 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 9: I thought I must have been. I was a little 256 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 9: bit surprised that he wasn't. And Andrew Webster's initial seventeen 257 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 9: named on Tuesday. However, there is a change. They can 258 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 9: make changes right up into an hour before kickoff. But 259 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 9: it really does feel like to me they will need 260 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 9: some form of X factor player, whether that is Sam 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 9: Hereley coming in late, Alekajalasima is now starting. So it 262 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 9: will take something a little bit beyond what the Warriors 263 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 9: is delivered over the last couple of weeks and defeats 264 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 9: to beat such a strong interesting. 265 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Get a high impact player and off the bench late 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: in the piece, and they appreciate that. Nick view Lee 267 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: News talks he'd be sports journalist with US this morning 268 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes after five, and I have to say, McKenzie, 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: we've had a text coming from Christine. Okay, Christine's angry 270 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: this morning. 271 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 5: Ryan. 272 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: You have no idea how irritating it is to have 273 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: that sting saying your name played all the goddamn time. 274 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: We know it's you. We listen because it's you, Ryan Bridge. 275 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: We don't need it rammed down our ears constantly. No 276 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: one else does it. Why do you do it? Peg 277 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: it back? Please, Christine? Do we do it Mackenzie more 278 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: than other people? No, Christine, that's not true. Apparently we 279 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: do it the same as everyone else. Why are you 280 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: picking on McKenzie. It's not me, it's mackenzie anyway. Apparently 281 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: it's to separate the interviews. But look, we can try 282 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: and peg it back Christine, because I don't want to 283 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: upset you at five point twenty five on a Friday morning, 284 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: as you're heading into your weekend. Anyway, I have some 285 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: thoughts on jeesus, it's been a big news week. Thoughts 286 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: on that for you. Next, and we're talking education, those 287 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: new curriculum subjects just before six News Talk sabb. 288 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: The Early Edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by NEWSTALKSB. 289 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Five point twenty seven on News Talk SAIBB. This week, 290 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: NASA found the clearest sign yet of ancient life on Mars. 291 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: I know, did you see that? We learned it for 292 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: the first time in human history. There are more obese 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: children on Earth than underweight children. How sad in the 294 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: Middle East, missiles, bomb piece talks over the skies of Europe. 295 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: We got drones, we got fighter jets, and the US, 296 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: supposedly the first among free nations, another political assassination. And 297 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: it's times like this you stop and think what a 298 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: strange species we are. If those Martian aliens ever turned 299 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: up here, God help us, what would they think of us? 300 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: How would we explain ourselves and our behavior. Religion is 301 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: about loving thy neighbor, but we fight in the name 302 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: of it. Food is scarce, but some have too much 303 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: and others have too little. Democracy means freedom until you're 304 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: shot in the head for speaking your mind. Of course, 305 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: none of this is unusual. We have done this, this 306 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: weird species. We have done this since the beginning of time. 307 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: We fight, we killed, we war, and we rint some repeat. 308 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: Animals fight for territory, for food, and for survival. We 309 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: do that too, but we also fight just because we 310 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: can't agree with each other, you know. I think what 311 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: it all boils down to is the fact that we 312 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: are social beings. It can work for us, but it 313 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: can also work against us. Arguably, social media is making 314 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: all of this worse. So what are we to conclude 315 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: from all of this? How are we to explain ourselves 316 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: to an alien? What if they landed tomorrow in some 317 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: big spacecraft and said, take me to your leader? Who 318 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: would you take them to? Donald Trump? You know? Do 319 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: you tell them to Antonio Guterres, the Pope, the King. 320 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know the answer to any of these questions. 321 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: I thought about it last night. Maybe we'd be better 322 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: off asking a question. Hey, you've got any room up 323 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: there for me, Ryan Bridge, and there's a sting for you. 324 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: Christine Taylor says, Ryan, play it one more time just 325 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: to piss her off. It's entertaining, Sorry, Christine. Right twenty 326 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: nine after five, we are live to the UK for 327 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: the latest on Lord Mandelston and we'll talk education for 328 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: full six news talk. Sibb said, I. 329 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 9: Was your favorite. 330 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with 331 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof love. 332 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Where you live? News Talk set B. Good morning, it 333 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: is twenty four minutes away from six. You're on news 334 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Talk set B coming up for full six. The new 335 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: subjects the kids are going to be taught at secondary school, 336 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: and we'll head to a europe correspondent on NATO's response 337 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: to those Russian jones drones. I should say out of 338 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: the US, we've had an inflation number overnight two point 339 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: nine percent for August, higher than July. You'll remember back 340 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: in July it was two point seven percent, So it 341 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: is notching edging up. That's after slowing down over summer. Food, housing, 342 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: cars closed, they're all firming up. This is in line, 343 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: by the way, this number with forecasters inflation, inflation expectations, tariffs, 344 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: they go up, businesses push prices up, and then consumers 345 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: pay more. And this is what happens core inflation. That's 346 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: once you strip out your food and strip out energy. 347 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: That's at three point one percent. So what does all 348 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: of this mean, Well, basically no change to the expectations 349 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: we've been talking about for the past week or so 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: to the three rate cuts that they're expecting from the 351 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: FED before Christmas. Wall streets loving that this morning. It's 352 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: all on. Prices up slightly, but they're not, you know, 353 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: dramatically going nuts. Jobs data has been noisy over the 354 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: last few weeks, so rate cuts and America's would be 355 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: relatively sweet. Bryan Bridge, twenty three away from Sex. Let's 356 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: go to our reporters around the country, Cluen Proctor and 357 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: Dnedan Coulm Good morning. 358 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: All right. 359 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: Now, there's some unexpected Environments Southland charges that the farmers 360 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: are feeling blindsided by them. 361 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's been concerns that the Council's environmental compliance checks 362 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 10: have been costing farmers up to four thousand dollars even 363 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 10: when no problems were found with these checks. Farmers say 364 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 10: they feel targeted for revenue gathering and that they're already 365 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 10: bad relationship with Environments South and will only get worse 366 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 10: if this charging continues. Environments South and Ryan denies the 367 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 10: unnecessary invoices. They say they're undertake cost recovery, so ratepayers 368 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 10: don't fit the bill. 369 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? 370 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 10: Got rain developing here this morning, but it should clear 371 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 10: this afternoon. Slash evening to find westerlies and twelve the 372 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 10: high today. 373 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: All right, Chez Clears and christ Church's clear good morning, 374 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: Good morning. Are you got the reopening of christ Church Cathedral? 375 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 11: Yes, this is the new staged rebuild plan which would 376 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 11: see the cathedral Square landmark reopen to the public by 377 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 11: twenty thirty. This rebuild, of course, was paused indefinitely last 378 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 11: year and at the time they said there was an 379 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 11: eighty five million dollar shortfall. This new platin that's been 380 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 11: announced will have that gap to forty million dollars. The 381 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 11: Anglican Church is pledging twenty million. Work will start next year, 382 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 11: firstly on the nave, the rose window and then the 383 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 11: entrance way as well as the bell tower reinstatement. Group 384 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 11: chair Mark Stewart says they do remain hopeful that the 385 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 11: city Council and government will cover the rest of the gap, 386 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 11: while Dean Ben Truman says the cathedral attractive seven hundred 387 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 11: and fifty thousand people a year pre quake, he thinks 388 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 11: will see the same level of interest once this third 389 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 11: stage is complete. 390 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: Right, how's your weather. 391 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 11: Frosty to start then? 392 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 9: Fine? 393 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 11: We could see some brief showers this afternoon and a 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 11: high of fourteen. 395 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: Nice one. Thanks Claire Max and Wellington Hamax good morning. 396 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: Things a bit smelly in lower heart. 397 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I used to think the infamous Seaview 398 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 12: smell was something of a myth, and then I got 399 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 12: to know a friend who lives in Seaview and ask 400 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 12: them is it really that bad? And apparently it is, 401 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 12: or it can be when the wind is blowing a 402 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 12: certain direction, bad eggs, etc. Anyway, we were worn yesterday 403 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 12: that the Seaview wastewater treatment plant needs to undergo yet 404 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 12: more repairs. There's a sludge that's normally put for a dryer. 405 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 12: The dryer needs fixing, so the sludge is wet, not good. 406 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 12: There are other parts of the Hut Valley that can 407 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 12: detect this stuff as well. Apparently twenty years it's been 408 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 12: going on. There's a Facebook page with a strong following 409 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 12: bemoaning the Seaview smell. It's going to be particularly bad 410 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 12: until at least the end of next week. 411 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: You sometimes get there out at more point by the 412 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: airport and you get a bit of a smell. 413 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 12: Have you ever experienced That's right, I've heard of that 414 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 12: one as well. Yes, I can't verify it, but I've 415 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 12: heard of it all right, how's you with her cloudy periods? 416 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: Scattered rain twelve the high Happily win for the huts 417 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Neva's and Auckland. Hey nev, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, we 418 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: made it. Yes, Auckland drivers should plan for big disruptions tomorrow. 419 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 13: Yes, So what's happening. We've got Pro Palestine supporters, so 420 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 13: they're expected to march across the Harbor Bridge tomorrow. Apparently 421 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 13: they're going to be meeting at Onnyportal Domain and North Cote. 422 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 13: They'll be marching south over the bridge to Victoria Park. 423 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 13: This is happening round about nine thirty am, So obviously 424 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 13: MZTA is expecting heavy congestion delays expected on both sides 425 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 13: of the bridge, you know, as well as all the 426 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 13: other local roads and that. So if you're going to 427 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 13: be doing anything, you need to be getting up at 428 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 13: three am like us. 429 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: It's annoying. It is annoying. I know, look at what's 430 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: happening overseas etc. It's important and you know we all 431 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: know that. But is watching them go over the bridge 432 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: going to make you go out and do No, it's stupid. 433 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: I want to go swimming tomorrow, do you Yeah, I've 434 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: got a date with my friends to go swimming at 435 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: the beach on the North Shore. I'm now going to 436 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: have to cancel. 437 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 13: Well, look now, why don't you go over there tonight, 438 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 13: stay the night, then get up early and you know what, 439 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 13: I don't care because I will be in Wellington tonight. 440 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 11: You go here for the weekend. 441 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 13: And no, I'm not going for the rugby. I'm just 442 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 13: going for a family event at twenty first. 443 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: Go have a whiff of lower hearts. You're always going 444 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: there for twenty first. 445 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 13: Have I know I've got about like ten nephews. 446 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: Ok, how's the weather for this protest? 447 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 13: Okay, rain, heavy falls, boo hoo yay, terrible our thunderstorms and. 448 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: It's all going down everybody, but it's warm. Eighteen pasa, 449 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: thank you, enjoy the twenty first. Happy twenty first to 450 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: your nephew. 451 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: Thank you. 452 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: Eighteen Away from Sex News Talk ZIBB, we're live to 453 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: the UK next, NATO making some moves over those Russian drones. 454 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Also before Sex will get to the education announcement from 455 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: Eric at Stanford the new subjects that your kids are 456 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: going to be taught at school. 457 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: News Talk SIDB International correspondence with insign Eye Insurance Peace 458 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: of Mind for New Zealand business. 459 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: Call it just sex. The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein continues 460 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: to claim Skelts. This time it is Starmer firing the 461 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: ambassadors to the US from the UK versus the labour 462 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: right Lord Manderson, Vincent mcavinnie as a UK europe correspondent, Vincent, 463 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: what do they know about Mandelssohn now that they didn't 464 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: know before? What's changed? 465 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 9: Well? 466 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 14: Lord Manderson is a veteran of labor politics in the 467 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 14: UK for decades. He was appointed by Keir Starmer as 468 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 14: the fasttor to the United States because he is such 469 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 14: an amazing networker. But that part of that networking in 470 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 14: his past has been a very close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. 471 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 14: Now he had previously played this depth, but in the 472 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 14: release from Congress birthday book for Epstein, we saw that 473 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 14: drawing from Donald Trump, we also saw pages and pages 474 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 14: of photographs and pleasant descriptions of the times that Mandelsson 475 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 14: had shared with Epstein. And so his position became untenable 476 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 14: because he said, but everyone loves you, You're one of 477 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 14: my closest friends, and that they'd enjoyed many holidays together 478 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 14: with accompanying photographs. 479 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: And how did they not know? Because they knew that 480 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: there was a relationship that Starmer and number ten, right, 481 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: but did they inquire further before they appointed him? You 482 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: know how close were they? Did they do any investigation? 483 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: Are those legitimate questions? 484 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 14: I think those will be legitimate questions now because this 485 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 14: relationship was known, but Mandleson had played it down. But 486 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 14: this is you know, I've lost counted a number of 487 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 14: times that Peter Mandelson has been sacked. He was sacked 488 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 14: I think twice under Tony Blair for infractions of different rules. 489 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 14: He was a bit of a wheeler dealer. So this 490 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 14: is just a letter, sorry chapter with him. But he 491 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 14: was someone who had managed to strike up a close 492 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 14: relationship with Donald Trump, was spotted in the Oval office 493 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 14: with him and the scene as a master networker. So 494 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 14: it doesn't mean that we're slightly weakened. 495 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: Now in Washington, we've got a UN meeting happening. I mean, 496 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: what do you do? This is over Poland and the 497 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: Russian drones. But what's NATO doing with its defense as 498 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: anything major? 499 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 14: Well, NATO is interpreting what happened earlier this week when 500 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 14: those Russian drones incurred on Polish airspace as being a 501 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 14: test for them I think they think that it's Russia 502 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 14: just sort of testing the fences, seeing whether or not 503 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 14: NATO is ready to respond. There was a response from 504 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 14: the Polish Air Force. We understand that it's seen as 505 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 14: not being quite strong enough for Vladimir Putin. So they're 506 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 14: moving troops, they're moving artillery, they're bolstering the Polish defenses 507 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 14: in a way that many have been calling for for 508 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 14: some time. Because this isn't the first time this has happened. 509 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 14: They have strayed in once or twice before, but it's 510 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 14: the first time this has been seen as a direct approach. 511 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: Vincent, Thank you. Vincent Mecaviny, a UK europe correspondent, just 512 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: gone thirteen away from six right and Bridge Rich Right 513 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: Erica Stanford has released the subjects list. This is the 514 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: new subjects which will be included in the replacement of NCEEA. 515 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: I've got some new ones here for you. Primary Industries 516 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: will be a science subject you can take in year thirteen. 517 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Electronics and Micatronics is one you can take in year twelve. 518 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: That's under technology. Also automotive engineering, building and construction, infrastructure engineering, 519 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: mechanical engineering. You can take music technology. Sociology is new Civics, politics, philosophy, 520 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: Pacific studies or new subjects. Clear Amos is the Albany 521 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: Senior High School principle with me this morning. Clear, Good morning, Morena. 522 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: Good list. 523 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 15: It's an interesting list. I have mixed feelings about the list. 524 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 15: The subject titles sound great, but there's a whole lot 525 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 15: of information about what sits behind them that I have 526 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 15: questions around which. 527 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: I guess is I mean, would you expect to have 528 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: all the detail when they're just releasing the list. 529 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 15: Well, I'm interested that we've even got a list which 530 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 15: has had zero consultation, So this has come as a 531 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 15: bit of a bolt out of the blue. I recognize 532 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 15: it's an extension of the proposal to replace INCA and 533 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 15: to provide some suggestions. You know that's still supposedly up 534 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 15: for consultation and hasn't shouldn't be a face to complete 535 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 15: at this stage. So I think it's interesting that we've 536 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 15: been given a whole new senior subjects list without any 537 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 15: consultation at this stage, and we've got a whole lot 538 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 15: of new subjects, and we've got these vet subjects, which 539 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 15: I think are a really interesting thing to explore further 540 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 15: because they may actually present some issues for our sector. 541 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: What vet subjects are you talking about? 542 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 15: So vocational education and training subjects. There's a whole lot 543 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 15: of new ones, some of them that you mentioned primary 544 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 15: industries and etc. Outdoor education is now a vocational subject. 545 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 15: What we know about vocational subjects is they're not going 546 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 15: to be funded for schools to necessarily resource and teach. 547 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 15: What they will do is they'll have an industry skills 548 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 15: board who will be developing the resources and potentially even 549 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 15: delivering the teaching and learning. And I've got a real 550 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 15: concern that this is a bit of a creeper way 551 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 15: towards privatization of parts of our education sector, but also 552 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 15: that it takes it out of the context of school. 553 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 15: Some of the most powerful vocational teaching and learning at 554 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 15: the moment happens in the context of our schools where 555 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 15: they're designing it to meet the needs of their very 556 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 15: distinct community such as rural communities. 557 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: Clear, do you accept that NCAA has been failing students 558 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: and has been failing parents? And if you accept that, 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: then why does schools who are the ones that have 560 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: had the flexibility to run the system now need to 561 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: say on all in Sundry with the replacement. 562 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 15: I actually don't accept that NCAA is a failure. I think, 563 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 15: like every system, it has some points of weakness that 564 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 15: we need to address. But I actually believe we would 565 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 15: be far better off to improve the system that we have. 566 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 15: I keep thinking about the incredible amount of resourcing, the 567 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 15: amount of dollars it's going to create to not only 568 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 15: rewrite the curriculum for every single subject in that list, 569 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 15: because if we get the proposed changes to this new 570 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 15: Zealand Certificate of Education, that's going to require brand new 571 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 15: curriculum for everything subject, brand new assessment frameworks for every 572 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 15: single subject. That's huge resourcing. I think we need to 573 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 15: actually pause for a moment, step back and look at 574 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 15: what the real issue is. If we want to raise 575 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 15: literacy and numeracy and make sure that we're actually raising 576 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 15: the outcomes of all of our learners. 577 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: Where how can you so you accept that we need 578 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: to do all those things, which is clearly means it 579 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: hasn't been done, you know, No, it needs means. 580 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 15: We need to make improvements. One of our most esteemed professors, 581 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 15: Vivian Robinson, says we need to reduce change to increase improvement, 582 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 15: and I worry that if you're not an educator, simply 583 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 15: rewriting the whole system looks like a very neat and 584 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 15: tidy solution, when we would be far better off investing 585 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 15: in what we have and improving it and advancing I'm 586 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 15: not clearly doesn't need to be improvements made, but let's. 587 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 14: Work with what we've got. 588 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: I have delivered the clear amos at Albany Senior High 589 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: School principle. If you're a parent listening to that, I'm 590 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: sure you're thinking this is part of the problem. Eight 591 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: to six News Talk said, be. 592 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: On your radio and on Lane on. Iheard Radio early 593 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: Edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you 594 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: live News. 595 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Talks be six to six. You're on Newstalk's HEDB. The 596 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: text machines going nuts on NCAA. My Friday has been 597 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: brightened because Mike's walked into the studio Morning Mike A 598 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: lovely teal. It's a very tell. When I had it, 599 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: just a good question. 600 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 16: When I had this made, the bloke who made it 601 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 16: or got it made for me said, this is the 602 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 16: greatest thing you said that had done. 603 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: So it's like for those who obviously can't see it, 604 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: it's like handset colors. I do very much. 605 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 16: Remember it's not far off. If you want to go 606 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 16: back even further, it's probably goes back to the New 607 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 16: Zealand days of earlier. They had a teal and so 608 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 16: it's it's very fetching. It is fitch and not many 609 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 16: people can wear it, and I think I get away 610 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 16: with it, and I think I've teamed it with the 611 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 16: beautiful gray. 612 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: Which is a personally I wouldn't do that. Shit. You 613 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: do that, you do you do a casual don't don't 614 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: even get me stand a business jacket because my no, 615 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: it's not. This is not a business. 616 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 16: That's just a casual blazer. But my wife, My wife 617 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 16: says to me, So you're on my wife's team, she 618 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 16: says to me. I walk through the door, she goes, 619 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 16: why are you wearing the old man's network yet? Again, 620 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 16: that's what she says. Because I went out and I 621 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 16: got I decided you're right. I was going t shirts 622 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 16: and then I thought I'll do this and I discovered 623 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 16: one of these. 624 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: You're either going to the tennis or to a business meeting. Nopots. 625 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 16: It's got to touch that about it. And I bought 626 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 16: like fifteen how We're going to see this for a 627 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 16: long time. Lots of different colors. Oh no, no, you 628 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 16: know if you look at me every day, Ryan, and 629 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 16: I'm surprised you don't, I wear something similar every day. 630 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I see it every day. I just don't want to 631 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: say it every day today. It's particularly obvious because of 632 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: the color contract. 633 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 16: You and my wife are on the same page. 634 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Cap. 635 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 16: But here's here's the beautiful thing about me. I'm comfortable 636 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 16: in my own skin, okay, And I couldn't give a 637 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 16: monkey's what you think. 638 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: Do you know what the best thing is for our listeners? 639 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: They're not viewers. That's well they will. 640 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 16: Be because you realize all the cameras in the studio 641 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 16: we feed this out, so you know anyway. 642 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: But thank you for the compliment. On the Jackey, You're welcome, 643 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: not but not the top. What's on the show today? 644 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 16: Oh I don't know, John Coohan, but a job even 645 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 16: on the Rugby will prove you that. The good news 646 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 16: around the builders did you cover that this morning? But yeah, 647 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 16: that's encouraging. 648 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm very encouraged. Airports. Did you see the airline business right. 649 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 16: To the extent we should have been there years ago? 650 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 16: I mean the fact, you know, six years we're finally 651 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 16: going we look at us six years on while the 652 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 16: rest of the world's moved on. The cathedral thing. I mean, 653 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 16: being from christ Church, of course you can't be. I mean, 654 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 16: if there's one thing that needs sorting in christ Church, 655 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 16: it's that the church, so hopefully and the guy Stewart 656 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 16: behind it, he's from you, PDL, the Stuart family in 657 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 16: christ Church, PDL and stuff. So he's driving that. So 658 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 16: he's a go getter. So anyway, all of that more Ryan. 659 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: Very good, maybe some fashion advice, have a great pride everyone. 660 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: Mike is here with you. Next to on News Talk 661 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: zib I'll see you Mondays miss kill. 662 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 8: Rather be in hell than. 663 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. 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