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Speaker 1: It's your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 1: Way News, Togsdad b Honing to Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Today, Growing ankst around the government's ideas on shoplifting as

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Speaker 2: it becomes a guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Sort

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Speaker 2: of equation. Netball New Zealand not having a good time

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Speaker 2: of it. We talked to the chair. Jetstar are an

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Speaker 2: expansion mode. Andrew Webster's in playoff Motives with us after Ray,

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Speaker 2: Joe McKenna and Italy Rob Little in the UK seven

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Speaker 2: Class six Thursday Morning, Welcome to It. Hasn't worked from

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Speaker 2: home become funnier? Seek have produced a thing called Money

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Speaker 2: Matters and they look at work life balance. Actually, hasn't

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Speaker 2: that become funny as well? Work life balance? I can't

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Speaker 2: place it exactly, but it seems a covid thing. The

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Speaker 2: world changed, so did we working hard as so last

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Speaker 2: year now or so last decade we all long for

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Speaker 2: apparently work life balance with a good sprinkling of mental

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Speaker 2: health days. But working from home is a scam because,

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Speaker 2: according to Money Matters, if you've got to pay rise,

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Speaker 2: you'd go back to the office quick as you like.

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Speaker 2: So is it about work life balance or really about

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Speaker 2: the money? You see, everything's about money if you're honest,

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Speaker 2: We just like to pretend it isn't. You feel more

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Speaker 2: virtuous if you pretend it isn't. Ah, But money matter

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Speaker 2: spills the truth. Working from home is easier. We save

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Speaker 2: on the commute. You can claim that, well, you're more productive,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then suddenly someone goes, well, how

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Speaker 2: about twenty percent more? Oh cool, I'm out of here

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Speaker 2: quick as you like. We would work more hours for

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Speaker 2: more money. We would take on an increased workload for

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Speaker 2: more money. We would commute further for more money. There

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Speaker 2: isn't much we wouldn't do for more money. The work

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Speaker 2: from home thing, by the way, is funny because before COVID,

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Speaker 2: there was virtually no such thing. Of course, the idea

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Speaker 2: that you could invent a thing and then having invented

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Speaker 2: it because I mean, we're all locked down so that

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Speaker 2: we had no choice, and then turn it into a

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Speaker 2: permanent thing that could only be broken by a pay

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Speaker 2: rise is the ultimate and face. It's an insight into

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Speaker 2: how quickly a habit can form if it suits you anyway.

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Speaker 2: The only other thing that can make us blow up

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Speaker 2: our precious work life balance is more time off. But

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Speaker 2: it still doesn't beat money. It's why Lotto it's popular.

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Speaker 2: I guess money solves everything. So the conclusion from Moneys,

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Speaker 2: do we value work life balance? My word?

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Speaker 3: We do?

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Speaker 2: But do we value it more than money? Don't make

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Speaker 2: me laugh?

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Speaker 4: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Drones, Russia, Poland scrambling jips. What doll we make of at?

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Speaker 2: President Trump has written this somewhat cryptic post on his

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Speaker 2: social platform, what with Russia violating Poland's airspace with drones?

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Speaker 2: He says, here we go U care into helping Poland.

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Speaker 5: Russian's actions are reckless, They're dangerous, They're unprecedented.

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Speaker 6: We see what Putin is doing.

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Speaker 5: I've asked our UK armed forces to look at options

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Speaker 5: to bolster NATO's air defense.

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Speaker 2: Do the other are the US trying to hose down yesterday?

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Speaker 2: For all those who thought diplomacy got blown up, they

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Speaker 2: have to surrender, They have to go.

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Speaker 7: They can't stay and have any future in Gaza, and

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Speaker 7: they have to let all of the hostages go.

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Speaker 2: And they have utterly rejected that.

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Speaker 3: How this affects it.

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Speaker 2: I simply think the answer is we don't know. Now

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Speaker 2: to the growing Mendelssohn Epstein's scandal, the Prince of Darkness

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Speaker 2: they used to call them, this is Mendleton, that' spin doctor,

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Speaker 2: extraordinary Labour party legion. These days Ambassador to the US

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Speaker 2: seems a bit close, a little bit friendly, although he's

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Speaker 2: got an excuse.

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Speaker 8: I fell for his lives.

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Speaker 5: I fell and accepted assurances that he had given me

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Speaker 5: about his indictment, his original criminal case in Florida.

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Speaker 4: Like very many people, this.

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Speaker 2: Mike's life walkies for Kia.

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Speaker 6: Full due process was followed during disappointment, as it is

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Speaker 6: with all ambassadors. The Ambassador has repeatedly expressed his deep regret.

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Speaker 4: He is right to do so.

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Speaker 6: He's now playing an important part in the US UK relationship.

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Speaker 2: But easy meet for Kimmy.

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Speaker 6: The Ambassador should be in the White House talking about

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Speaker 6: how we respond to an encouragion into unto airspace. Instead

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Speaker 6: he is giving interviews about himself to the Sun.

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Speaker 4: This is a man who already had.

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Speaker 6: To be removed from cabinet twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finally, the rich Folksteakes has had a shake up overnight.

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Speaker 2: Ole Scotship off. They went up almost forty one percent

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Speaker 2: for a time yesterday. It's tech, hits cloud, its future business.

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Speaker 2: It means old laza as an Allison saw was netwelth

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Speaker 2: jump from four hundred and ninety billion to six hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty billion, just like that, which makes it now

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Speaker 2: the richest man in the world. That is news of

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Speaker 2: that world in nineteen You'll be pleased to know Russia

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Speaker 2: said this morning it's got no plans to target Poland.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how much weight you want to

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Speaker 2: put on that. And by the way, Harry's just met Charles,

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Speaker 2: which is nice, isn't it. He was a couple of

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Speaker 2: hours ago driving to Clarence House. The King came back.

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Speaker 2: He had been in Scotland. Arrived at Clarence House at

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Speaker 2: about four their time. Came into West London from Scotland

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Speaker 2: about three o'clock after a flight from Aberdeen. So Harry

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Speaker 2: and the King have met. So some hope that a

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Speaker 2: few things can be sorted out. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things from Trump. Lander's latest plan is

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Speaker 2: to press the EU to come up with one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent tariffs on India and China, therefore squeezing Russia. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: this is the oil price and the other thing he's lost,

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Speaker 2: perhaps not surprisingly, this is the way it seems to go.

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Speaker 2: You go round, sack somebody. That person who's been sacked

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Speaker 2: takes them to cord and at that particular point they win.

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Speaker 2: So this is Lisa Cook. The federal judges blocked Trump

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Speaker 2: from firing Hershey's the Reserve Bank governor, until of course

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Speaker 2: it plays out in court. It all eventually heads to

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Speaker 2: Scots fourteen parts second.

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Speaker 2: Greg Smith, morning to you more as you like. But

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Speaker 2: are the thirteen thousand, So what do we make of that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, those migration Taiwans are fading, but there is a

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Speaker 9: little bit of good news. But yeah, you look at

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Speaker 9: migrant arrivals for the July Yeah, one hundred and forty thousand,

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Speaker 9: that was down twenty percent. That's a world away from

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Speaker 9: two and thirty four thousand October between three departures are

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Speaker 9: up fourteen percent on hundred and twenty seven thousand, four hundred,

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Speaker 9: that's around peak levels. So that net migration gain of

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Speaker 9: thirteen thousand, that's a world away from the peak of

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Speaker 9: and we're actually running at less than half of the

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Speaker 9: long term average pre COVID. We gain sixty thousand non

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Speaker 9: New Zealanders. That's down over forty percent on twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 9: but interestingly it is actually up to thirty percent above

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Speaker 9: pre COVID, so increasingly diverse population there. But we lost

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Speaker 9: forty seven thousand, six hundred New Zealand serisms might that's

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Speaker 9: double pre COVID averages. And on a growth basis, seventy

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Speaker 9: three thousand kiwis departing these shores, so that rows slightly

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Speaker 9: on June as a record. So yeah, the brain drain continues.

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Speaker 9: And interestingly, the average or median age of people leaving

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Speaker 9: is thirty one, those arrivings twenty one, so there's a

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Speaker 9: net loss of skills abroad. If we want to look

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Speaker 9: at a positive, July looks a little bitter, So net

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Speaker 9: migration gain of four thousand, one hundred that's up three

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Speaker 9: just tells us that New Zealander is still not that

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Speaker 9: attractive economically, obviously subdued demand for labor, which I've talked about.

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Speaker 9: But let's look at the big positives MIC on the

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Speaker 9: tourism front. Visit arrivals June and thirty six thousand July.

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Speaker 9: That's up forty thousand, seven hundred for a year ago.

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Speaker 9: Almost one hundred and twenty seven thousand ossies. That's a

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Speaker 9: one hundred and seventy thousand thereabouts, and again driven by Aussies.

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Speaker 9: They make up around about forty percent of those numbers.

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Speaker 9: So I guess the a dollar for fetching a dollar

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Speaker 9: ten of our currency might drive a few more over.

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Speaker 2: Now, Kee We sabers interesting these numbers from the FMA.

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Speaker 2: So for the first time, fewer people are contributing to

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Speaker 2: Keywi Saber. So what does this tell us?

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Speaker 9: Well, that's right, and then that's the issue. So you

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Speaker 9: look at forty percent are not contributing, and you've looked

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Speaker 9: at the age between eighteen and sixty five, which are

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Speaker 9: most likely to thirty percent aren't contributing. So the good

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Speaker 9: news is this that the indescent pools getting getting larger.

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Speaker 9: So it's up ten percent according to the FMA over

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Speaker 9: twenty three billion. Obviously. Yeah, it has been a great

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Speaker 9: Two are strength and resilience and so on. But you

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Speaker 9: were approaching twenty investor obvious. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 9: talk about compulsory super in recent days, Mike and lifting

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Speaker 9: those contributions, and I think, look, it's worthy of a conversation.

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Speaker 9: You know, cost of living's rising, people aren't contributing. Retirees

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Speaker 9: living longer, more active lives. The Financial Services Coountcil Arican,

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Speaker 9: only forty four percent of people feel prepared for retirement.

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Speaker 9: thirty six grand Messi University of the Areca in a

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Speaker 9: four million thereabouts enrolled in Kiwi SABER, making compulsory would

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Speaker 9: add over a million people more into the fold. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's improved the culture of saving, but I think more

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Speaker 9: longer since Kenning Bordling in ninety two. But yeah, twelve

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Speaker 9: percent currently four trillion pull their fifth largest hold of

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Speaker 9: And then you look at a scheme such as Sweden

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Speaker 9: sorts of Netherlands that's.

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Speaker 3: Booted their well being.

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Speaker 9: And we did actually have a obviously a vote on

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Speaker 9: compulsory super the referendum in ninety ninety seven was ninety

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Speaker 9: two percent against, but that was a bit flawed, and

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, the proposal around text cuts would

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Speaker 9: be way better. It would avoid that boom bust sort

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Speaker 9: of cycle, and it will be neutral from inflation perspective,

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Speaker 9: so much more productive. Just interally, we've been running a

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Speaker 9: social media pole. Eighty percent are in favor of ten

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Speaker 9: percent minimum compulsory supers, So lots to work out, including

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Speaker 9: those billions of dollars of text cuts. Now they'll be funded.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, every process has a starting.

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Speaker 2: Point against Mike, Well done, what are the numbers?

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Speaker 9: So the numbers we have got the dore is down

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Speaker 9: that serged forty percent. The AI related revenews up fifteen

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Speaker 9: hundred percent last quarter. NaN's take up point one percent,

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Speaker 4: You well and Mike, thanks for having on not at all.

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Speaker 13: Look I think for us CFOs who are at the

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing the uptickers reel? Because we all thought

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Speaker 13: Look, I think the longer time goes on, the clear

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Speaker 2: Really good on you. I could talk to you for hours.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking that, come on, Rod.

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Speaker 3: And then there's another sale on at Brisco.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you're a genius. We wore I think fifty tals. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the other day from Brisco's, you can't have too many towers,

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Speaker 2: can't have too many towers and face towers and face cloths.

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Speaker 2: Katie decided, rightly or wrongly, I don't make that judgment.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's rightly. So anyway, she decided she was throwing

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Speaker 2: out all toils, all the flannels, and she went and

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Speaker 2: ordered some. And then there's g gainschein box arrived with

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Speaker 2: towersand flannels and I was then dispatched to the laundry

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Speaker 2: to wash them up and make them pluffake. So that

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Speaker 2: was my day.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a problem when you travel that often

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Speaker 1: there are no flannels in the hotel?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. That's one of them. And you

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Speaker 2: don't know what is it you're doing. Do you think

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Speaker 2: there is a flannel and New Zealand thing, because sometimes

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Speaker 2: there's like one. Yeah, it's going to need more than one. No,

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Speaker 2: you are right. I don't know why we're not covering

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Speaker 2: the subject, Sam on the program later on. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's your lead story right there. I mean, how many

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Speaker 2: times you've gone to a decent hotel and you've got

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Speaker 2: there are no flannels? And then often you can ring

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Speaker 2: and go. Can I have some flannels please? And they

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Speaker 2: like you you've come in from Mars. Yeah, or or

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Speaker 2: they pretend they don't know what you're talking about. You mean,

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Speaker 2: face class. That's a very American thing. It's weird.

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Speaker 13: Say I don't have time for this.

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Speaker 2: Scleen fourteen to.

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Speaker 1: Seven International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: It's a water sort for business. Joe, good morning, good

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Speaker 2: money mate, Poland business, just clue me in here because

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Speaker 2: maybe I've missed it. But the drones, were they deliberate?

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Speaker 2: And if they were deliberate, what was the point? Or

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Speaker 2: is there some suggestion that was What the hell's going on?

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Speaker 14: That's a great question. I think most people assume that

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Speaker 14: they were deliberate. There's certainly a lot of concern across Europe,

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Speaker 14: as you can imagine people looking the leaders here, looking

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Speaker 14: for leadership from US President Donald Trump, who's been very ambiguous, just.

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Speaker 2: Tweeting here we go.

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Speaker 14: But people here, including the Italian President Sergio Mantarella, is

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Speaker 14: very concerned that we're sliding into conflict. The Polish Prime

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Speaker 14: Minister you might have seen Donald Tusk, Tusk warning that

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Speaker 14: Poland is closest to open conflict for the first time

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Speaker 14: since World War Two, so there is a concern that

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Speaker 14: Russia is stepping it up a notch. And I think

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Speaker 14: the Polish are very concerned. One friend Tommy that people

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Speaker 14: are moving their money into foreign countries, buying property in

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Speaker 14: Spain and packing their bags.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I get all of that, but from this side of

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Speaker 2: the world, I just don't see it unfolding that way,

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Speaker 2: for the simple reason that Russia's barely been able to

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Speaker 2: grab anything of Ukraine. They don't have the resource, and

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Speaker 2: surely most of Europe understands that they don't have the

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Speaker 2: resource to go any further, do they or do they?

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Speaker 14: Well, they seem to be making slight gains in Ukraine

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Speaker 14: that are causing concern across Europe. And whether these were

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Speaker 14: deliberate or just oh, we missed our target and we

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Speaker 14: went across the border, we don't know for sure. But

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Speaker 14: there were up to nineteen drones that were dropped on

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Speaker 14: Poland overnight. I think that number is really a source

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Speaker 14: of concern.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what did Maloney have to say? Assume it?

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Speaker 2: She's like everybody else and condemned it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the Prime Minister Georgie Maloney and the Deputy Prime

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Speaker 14: Minister Foreign Minister Antonio Otoiani condemned the attacks, expressing solidarity

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Speaker 14: with NATO. We're still seeing some rumblings in the far

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Speaker 14: right in terms of support for Putin and Russia, but

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Speaker 14: I think overall there is a pretty solid unity across

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Speaker 14: the coalition for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Now France and they are never ending rotation of prime ministers.

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Speaker 2: Does that roll out into the EU and are you

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Speaker 2: watching that with a great deal of interest?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's been front page news here in

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Speaker 14: Italy for the last forty eight hours, and the upheaval

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Speaker 14: was described by one newspaper as the last tango, expecting

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Speaker 14: the fall of the French government and fresh elections. I

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Speaker 14: think the Italians were looking a little bit smug, I

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Speaker 14: might say, talking about France's debt burden when Italy's is

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Speaker 14: much higher and Greece's is much higher. So they don't

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Speaker 14: want to get too smug in Italy, but they're certainly

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Speaker 14: concerned about the political and economic ramifications for the Italians.

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Speaker 2: We got the immigration numbers here where we're growing, but

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Speaker 2: only just and a lot of people are still leaving

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Speaker 2: the country, and there's old Venice new record, Like what's

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Speaker 2: driving that?

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Speaker 3: People?

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Speaker 2: You're sick of Venice.

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Speaker 14: Look, people want to stay in Venice. There's a really

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Speaker 14: strong movement among the residents to try and rebuild the community.

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Speaker 14: But they do feel that it's being dominated by a

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Speaker 14: big wealthy interest, you know, hospitality, tourism. The mayor is

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Speaker 14: under investigation for corruption and he is a businessman who

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Speaker 14: is promoting all sorts of property deals. They are struggling

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Speaker 14: to keep up with the rising rents and Airbnb, and

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Speaker 14: a lot of people just can't forward to live there anymore.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, all right, Joe, you go, well, we'll catch up

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Speaker 2: to appreciated it, Joe McK and, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: chair of Ferrari and stulentis he's going to do a

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Speaker 2: year's community service and pay millions of euros to settle

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Speaker 2: a dispute. This is over inheritance taxes. A guy called

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Speaker 2: Elkin in his siblings Lapo and Geneva. So mom dies

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Speaker 2: and they get a whole bunch of dollars, like a

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Speaker 2: tremendous number of those dollars. Morella, she died in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: And it's I mean the problem, it's inheritance tax basically,

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Speaker 2: and the argument was they didn't pay any So he's agreed,

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Speaker 2: it's a deal. It's a plea deal. So he's going

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Speaker 2: to go and do some some community service. They're all

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Speaker 2: tired in with the if you follow this, the Nyelli family,

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Speaker 2: which are particularly famous family in Italy, tired and originally

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Speaker 2: with Fiat. I think from memory, so anyway, they've sorted

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Speaker 2: him out. Sam doesn't use face closs. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: show's being derailed right in front of my eyes. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Glenn Ray's is a very good point. We've

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Speaker 2: all gone to hotels and we've all wondered where the

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Speaker 2: face closs are. Sam then contributes by saying I don't

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Speaker 2: use face class. So obviously the very people who make

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Speaker 2: the decisions around face closts in hotels are the sort

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Speaker 2: of people that like Sam.

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Speaker 10: So he's gone.

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Speaker 3: Then gone on to claim it's a generational divide.

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Speaker 2: What a load of don't play the gen Z card

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Speaker 2: with me. Nine away from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate used dog zb

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: Developing News Charlie Kirk, who started to think, called turning

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Speaker 2: point USA. He's maga is to the right of mega.

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Speaker 2: He travels the country, you know, with the mega movement

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Speaker 2: type that he's at Utah University. Just been shot.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Run So that's literally just moments ago. He apparently has

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Speaker 2: been shot in the neck. We don't know his status

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Speaker 2: at this current point in time, but we'll follow it closely. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven for.

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Speaker 4: The ins and the outs. It's the fizz.

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Speaker 1: With business tiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: You'll talk. India currently in negotiations for the EU and

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Speaker 2: they're apparently very close to finalizing parts of this ft GA.

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Speaker 2: They start the latest round the meeting Saturday. Our time

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Speaker 2: word is sixty to sixty five percent of this is

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Speaker 2: in the can Bilateral trade between the two is worth

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Speaker 2: two undred and twenty six billion. It's doubled in the

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Speaker 2: last decade. I told you yesterday. Apparently, according to the Indians,

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Speaker 2: we are close for an FTA as well, to sign

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Speaker 2: off in the next couple of weeks. Anyway, this is

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Speaker 2: all against the backdrop of Trump, who's now lobbying the

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Speaker 2: EU to put one hundred percent tariffs on China and

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Speaker 2: India four buying Russian or oil. So he made that

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Speaker 2: demand yesterday during a meeting, said one of the best

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Speaker 2: ways to punish Putin. So currently the US put fifty

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Speaker 2: percent tariff on the Indian goods, which included a twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent hit for the transactions with Russia, and that

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Speaker 2: whole relationship between Mody and Trump has gone dramatically south,

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Speaker 2: although I note there are some comments this morning that

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Speaker 2: are trying to smooth that over. EU said it would

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Speaker 2: end it's independence on Russian energy by around nineteen percent

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Speaker 2: of their natural gas inputs still come from there. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember the day, is it twenty seven? It's either

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty nine. They're going to

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Speaker 2: end it, but it's been far too slow, and the

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Speaker 2: whole business of selling oil to the world, I mean

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Speaker 2: to be fair to the Indians have been very open

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Speaker 2: about it, and they said, you know, we buy oil

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Speaker 2: at the best possible price and the best possible prices.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Russians because they're trying to flick it

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Speaker 2: out as quickly as they possibly can. So anyway, the

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Speaker 2: pressures on. So maybe a trade deal with EU comes,

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Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't. Maybe one hundred percent tariffs go on,

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Speaker 2: maybe they don't. Maybe we sign an FTA with India.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we don't. The world is in a state of

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Speaker 2: very interesting, possibly worrying flux. Paul Goldsmith Bill of Rights

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Speaker 2: new rules around shoplifting. Basically, if they nab you, you

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Speaker 2: need to prove your innocent other than you know, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to the other way around. So there's Bill of

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Speaker 2: Rights implications there. Netball, New Zealand seem in a world

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Speaker 2: of pain at the moment, and speaking of sport, Andrew

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Speaker 2: Webster it is playoff time for the worrying as he's

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Speaker 2: with us after eight meantime news is next to news

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Speaker 2: Talk sead.

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Speaker 1: B the only report you need to start your day

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Speaker 1: the mic Costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all

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Speaker 2: B only seven past seven. Bit of banks growing around

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Speaker 2: the Government's proposal for new shoplifting laws that you change

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Speaker 2: would shift the burden of proof onto suspects. In other words,

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Speaker 2: you are guilty until you prove yourself otherwise. This is

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Speaker 2: where the Bill of Rights Act comes in, of course.

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Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister with us. Good morning, Good morning Michael.

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Speaker 2: As regards the shoplifting, is this sort of the same

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Speaker 2: as proceeds of crime. In other words, you know, the

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Speaker 2: onus is now on you.

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Speaker 15: Ah no, it's more akin to a traffic offense. So

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Speaker 15: you know you're speeding, you get a ticket. There's no

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Speaker 15: sort of debate about it really unless you've got a

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Speaker 15: reasonable excuse and you pay the fine. And the whole

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Speaker 15: purpose of it is to find to come up with

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Speaker 15: a quick and swift way to deal with shoplifting other

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Speaker 15: than the alternative, which is to go through the whole

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Speaker 15: court process.

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Speaker 2: Define a reasonable excuse.

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Speaker 15: Ah well, I don't know. You're in the supermarket and

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Speaker 15: you're three year old stuck a banana in your handbag

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Speaker 15: and you didn't realize something like that.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps is that that's not reasonable. Banana shouldn't be in

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Speaker 2: your handbags And this is the problem, isn't it a

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Speaker 2: mean so.

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Speaker 15: No, no, no, no no. I think that well, that

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Speaker 15: is the design that people sometimes do make genuine mistakes,

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Speaker 15: and that the legislation can be designed to deal with that.

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Speaker 15: But that the idea, though, is simply to come up

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Speaker 15: with something that is simple and swift.

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Speaker 2: And when we come to the Bill of Rights, and

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Speaker 2: the angst around or so called angst around the Bill

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Speaker 2: of Rights is it true to say you can basically

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Speaker 2: do this. You are the government, you have the numbers,

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Speaker 2: and you can argue about the Bill of Right. Still

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Speaker 2: you blue in the face. This is going to happen.

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Speaker 15: Yes, but we don't sort of just ignore the Bill

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Speaker 15: of Rights. Will design it in a way. We'll set

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Speaker 15: out to design it in a way that works effectively

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Speaker 15: within the Bill of Rights. And just as the speeding

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Speaker 15: of fine fine does as well. That's the basic sort

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Speaker 15: of process. I mean, we've got to remember, we've got

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Speaker 15: a real issue of retail crime. It's a big increasing

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Speaker 15: people going around stealing stuff. We've got to do something different.

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Speaker 15: Currently you've got to go off to court. That's a

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Speaker 15: very high threshold and doesn't happen enough. And so what

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Speaker 15: we're introducing is a swift and effective fine as an

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Speaker 15: intermediate step to deal with things so that there is

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Speaker 15: a real consequence for that level of shoplifting.

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Speaker 2: As part of this the first respond to stuff. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anyone's going to disagree with the changes to that,

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Speaker 2: are they No?

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 15: So We've got a whole bunch of changes there to

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Speaker 15: make sure that the people that put themselves in harm's

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Speaker 15: way on behalf of society, especially looked after.

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Speaker 2: Do you see it as a deterrent or more a punishment?

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Speaker 2: Given as far as I can work, people who attack

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Speaker 2: first responders aren't in their right mind and therefore will

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Speaker 2: have to pay the price at the lad stage, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to them thinking it through before they do it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 15: It does seem to signal and it filters out and

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Speaker 15: it makes it clear that we hold those people specially

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Speaker 15: in regard because they're putting themselves at risk.

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Speaker 2: Dot com. While I've got you, explain to me how

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Speaker 2: something that started in twenty twelve is still working its

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Speaker 2: way through the New Zealand court system.

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Speaker 15: Well, look, it's a very long and slow process and

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Speaker 15: this individual case obviously goes through that process and it

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Speaker 15: has been very long, and that's as it is. That

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Speaker 15: for the future, you know, I will be looking at

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Speaker 15: the extradition rules because as you say, it's taken a

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Speaker 15: very long time.

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Speaker 2: Is justice being seen to be done or is justice

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Speaker 2: being seen to be manipulated?

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Speaker 15: Well, well, you have to trust our justice system and

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Speaker 15: I trust our justice system.

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Speaker 2: Are you glad you won yesterday? And from that? How

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Speaker 2: much more is there to go.

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Speaker 15: Do you think, well, yes, I'm obviously I'm pleased that

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Speaker 15: my decision was upheld. But from where there are potential

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Speaker 15: appeals to be had still.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are And if you haven't followed this with

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Speaker 2: the sort of detail many of us have, then I'll

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Speaker 2: work you through it in a couple of months. Justice

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Speaker 2: Minister Paul Goldsmith, I thank you for your time, as always,

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Speaker 2: eleven past seven. So the stets on migration in the

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Speaker 2: year to July, Nick Gain is down to thirteen one hundred.

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Speaker 2: July itself numbers were up fourteen thousand, which is eight

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Speaker 2: percent more than July of last year. So, like all

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Speaker 2: these things, it depends on how you read it. Marcus Beverage,

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Speaker 2: as the managing director and immigration lawyer at Quentity Lauren,

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Speaker 2: is back with us. Marcus morning, Hey, my hanging well,

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Speaker 2: I am. My great concern is that we get to

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Speaker 2: less than zero and we're a net exporter of people.

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Speaker 2: Do you see it getting down to that or are

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Speaker 2: we bottoming out here?

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Speaker 16: We really need to sort of grab this and do

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Speaker 16: a bit of an engine reborn instead of tweaking around

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Speaker 16: the side. So I think half of the citizens leaving

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Speaker 16: New Zealand going to Ozzie weren't.

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Speaker 3: Born here and they have to remain here.

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Speaker 16: New residents have to stay here for five years before

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Speaker 16: they become citizens of New Zealand then can jump across

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Speaker 16: the ditch.

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Speaker 3: So that's one thing. We could extend that period.

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Speaker 16: But we you know, when there's less people coming, less

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Speaker 16: work is less tax and take.

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Speaker 3: It can turn into a bit of a vicious cycle.

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Speaker 16: And you know a lot of the people leaving probably

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Speaker 16: are more to the right of politics, so it means

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Speaker 16: that the left sort of has a much better chance

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Speaker 16: of getting in power in the mad hatters and then

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Speaker 16: it becomes a Banana republic.

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Speaker 2: He Marcus, you're just enterprising me. You're following the just

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Speaker 2: enter Price story in Australia bringing in the Indian voters

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Speaker 2: and they all vote labor.

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Speaker 3: There you have it.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think they're I think they're quite a malleable

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Speaker 16: sort of community and they flick to which episode works

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Speaker 16: for them at the time.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, as far as the people leaving versus

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Speaker 2: the people coming in, Peter's makes the speech over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. Thirty percent of people in this

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Speaker 2: country now weren't born here. Did you know that?

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Speaker 16: No, I didn't know that for se But I've been

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Speaker 16: waiting for Winston to fire up for immigration because he

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Speaker 16: sort of sticks to his knitting, doesn't he.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he does. But that's an interesting stat isn't that

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Speaker 2: We've seen? Have we not in the last handful of years,

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Speaker 2: a profound change in the makeup of this country population wise?

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Speaker 3: We have?

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Speaker 16: And and the thing is, if you look at someone

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Speaker 16: like Ronald Reagan and his speech to America about replenishing

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Speaker 16: and refreshing the stock of people coming through buying into

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Speaker 16: the American dream, New Zealand is still widely seen as

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Speaker 16: the land of milk and honey band. If we open

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Speaker 16: the door, we get a big influx of immigration that

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Speaker 16: the migrants have very small, short memories, So even if

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Speaker 16: we don't think we're doing that well, they still think

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Speaker 16: it's a wonderful country. So if we get the settings right,

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Speaker 16: we can actually kind of stimulate a lot of activity here.

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Speaker 2: So the key is in the setting. Is always good

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Speaker 2: to have you on the program. Marks Beveradge, Managing director

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Speaker 2: of Immigration lawyer at Queen City Law. This morning, fifteen

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven, Pasty John Charlie Kirk, there's no update

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Speaker 2: on his status they appear to have got the guy

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Speaker 2: who shot him, who's a white, bald male of I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing sixty five issue. It was at a university campus.

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Speaker 2: He was outdoors under a Tar Paul and large crowd

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Speaker 2: was speaking. Shot single shot rang out appears to have

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Speaker 2: hit him in the neck. The several videos out there,

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Speaker 2: most of which you don't want to watch. But he's

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Speaker 2: the founder of Turning Point. Turning Point goes back to

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve. He's part of the disinformation campaign on Biden

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Speaker 2: on COVID. He's one of those guys, but he is

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Speaker 2: close with the Trump's. Trump's already said, let's pray for

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. So whether he's survived this is the key,

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Speaker 2: and whether they've got somebody, and what the motivation was

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Speaker 2: and where this goes politically is the other part of

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Speaker 2: the story.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: by News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Orre's coach Andrew Webster. After writ seventeen past seven,

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Speaker 2: speaking of sport, Nitball continues to write through quite the storm,

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Speaker 2: television rights players leaving for Australia, changes of rules around

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Speaker 2: eligibility now they've stood down. The national coach nol In

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Speaker 2: Taru is going to miss the Tiny jym Some series

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Speaker 2: against South Africa. Matt Winter, Ray of Courses, the chair

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Speaker 2: of the board, and he's back whether us Matt Morning Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is this Adrian or risk? Has she packed a massive

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Speaker 2: sad and you're threatening to soccer or how does this work?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't seem parallels with Adrian, But so what's

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Speaker 10: what's happened here? As we've been having we've been having

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Speaker 10: some discussions with Dame Nolene and the Civil Frans management

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Speaker 10: team about how we how we make that high performance

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Speaker 10: environment the best one that we can because we want

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Speaker 10: that for our civil fans to be their best. We've

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Speaker 10: had some we've had some issues to resolve in there

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Speaker 10: that we haven't been able to get to resolution on

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Speaker 10: before the Tiny Jamerson series. So we've put in places

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Speaker 10: interim approach. We've brought an event accaudon jury as well

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Speaker 10: as Leona and THEODA as her assistant, both her experienced

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Speaker 10: coaches to make sure that we can support the players

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Speaker 10: in that immediate challenge of playing South Africa and while

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Speaker 10: we continue to see whether we can resolve these issues

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Speaker 10: so that's that's where we are. That's all we announce it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the issues are driven by the players or not.

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Speaker 10: The issues are about making sure that everybody is performing

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Speaker 10: in a high performance environment. Everybody's in that, the Noline,

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Speaker 10: the Silver Frien's management, players, we want to have that

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Speaker 10: to be a really positive, high performing environment. And so

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Speaker 10: we've got some issues in there that we need to resolve.

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Speaker 2: Are they driven by the players? So the players packing

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Speaker 2: us said, because Nolan's too hard on.

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Speaker 10: Them, I can't come in.

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Speaker 2: The pause is all we needed. So the players don't

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Speaker 2: like Nolan. Nolan's going too hard and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: resolve that.

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Speaker 10: Mike, No, Mike, that's not what I said. What I

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Speaker 10: said is we've got some we've got some issues that

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Speaker 10: we need to resolve. We haven't been able to resolve that.

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Speaker 10: When we do, if we are able to remain hopeful

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Speaker 10: we can, we will. But if we in the meantime,

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Speaker 10: we've got we've got to focus on the Silver Fans

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Speaker 10: series US against South Africa and so that's why we've

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Speaker 10: got a bit in Lehanner.

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Speaker 2: Are you confident you can solve it?

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Speaker 10: I'm hopeful that we can solve it. Are you confident

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Speaker 10: will continue to work? I'm hopeful, mate.

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Speaker 2: Would you be surprised? I know, Noline, if what we

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Speaker 2: hear is right, she's not for turning. So is this

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Speaker 2: basically the end of the road. We just haven't announced it.

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Speaker 10: Yet, but that's certainly not where we are. That's not

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Speaker 10: where we are at the moment. We continue to as

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Speaker 10: we've noted, we continue to work on these We're hopeful

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Speaker 10: that we can get to a resolution and we'll keep

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Speaker 10: doing that.

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Speaker 2: All right. I wish you well with it. Matt Henray,

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Speaker 2: gone up markedly, big big increases. This seems, on the

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Speaker 2: surface anyway, to be in part a solution to a

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Speaker 2: long term problem, i e. Our permanent shortage in a

871
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Speaker 2: profession that's lost its luster. I'm not against migration to

872
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Speaker 2: solve issues, but there is a balance to be Striker

873
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Speaker 2: would have thought, and you'd like to think that the

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Speaker 2: profession is actually staffed by people who like what they do,

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Speaker 2: and not a pile of recent arrivals whose main criteria

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Speaker 2: for being in a New Zealand classroom was to be

877
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Speaker 2: in the country, not the job itself. So lots of

878
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Speaker 2: new recruits, good good, good good. But once out the

879
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Speaker 2: other side, what awaits them? And does it look like

880
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Speaker 2: the ongoing industrial mess that pervades our work landscape at

881
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Speaker 2: the moment? I mean, do these recruits know what they

882
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Speaker 2: will get paid, what their conditions are? Do they know

883
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: what actually teaching in a New Zealand classroom in twenty

884
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Speaker 2: twenty five entails and looks like because somewhere between the

885
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Speaker 2: enthusiasm of enrollment and the jaded misery of experience a

886
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: decade on something dramatically goes wrong. The money seems decent

887
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: to me, not spectacular, but decent, the same way it

888
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: seems decent now for nurses and doctors. It seems to

889
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: me we've got to a point where no small amount

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Speaker 2: of energy money and change has been put into education,

891
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Speaker 2: and between that and the pay it's not a bad deal. Yes,

892
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Speaker 2: it's challenging, of course, it has given kids in their issues.

893
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Speaker 2: Yes you would like more specialist teachers or non contact

894
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Speaker 2: time or whatever, but negotiations a quid pro quote. The

895
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Speaker 2: rises we have seen in recent years, the change currently

896
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Speaker 2: being implemented to turbocharge performance by way of results seems

897
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Speaker 2: to be setting us up for a decent sort of

898
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Speaker 2: system producing a decent sort of outcome. Is that the

899
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Speaker 2: unions that are wrecking this, I mean, are they really

900
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Speaker 2: the impediment? Do most teachers just want to get on

901
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Speaker 2: with it. We seem it a place where the public

902
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Speaker 2: support is most certainly not what it was for the

903
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Speaker 2: teacher's plight and might just be tipping against them, asking

904
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Speaker 2: do the truck mic, cue the truck Mike and the

905
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Speaker 2: clown cart. You could have driven the train twice through

906
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Speaker 2: that particular cause last time Matt was on the program,

907
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Speaker 2: Listen to this. Your domestic league looks weak at the moment,

908
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: doesn't quite have the fizz that it used to.

909
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Speaker 10: It's got a lot of thays. This year we've had

910
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 10: great engagement, We've had bigger crowds, we've had more viewership

911
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Speaker 10: and everyone's.

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Speaker 2: Engaged with that, all right, So and then do we

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Speaker 2: have a truck? So the players packing a sad because

914
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Speaker 2: Nolan's too hard on them. I can comment, it's a

915
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Speaker 2: truck and a half. It's possibly two trucks. Is it

916
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Speaker 2: two trucks? Is it a truck and a clown car?

917
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: There's a gap there, there's a truck in something. So

918
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Speaker 2: the players packing a sad because Nolan's too hard on them.

919
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: It's a two car. It's a two car. Matt, I'm sorry.

920
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: I love Matt Winner eight. But he's defending. He's defending

921
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: the indefensible. Everything we're told is it's it's the hockey

922
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: guy all over again. It's Hagar part two two point zero,

923
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: a bit hard on the players, and the players going,

924
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Speaker 2: and then the next thing you know, suddenly Nolan's Noley.

925
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Speaker 2: The problem with Nolan, unlike Hagar, I don't want to

926
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Speaker 2: dismiss Hagars and his talents. Nolean's a legend. Nolan is

927
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Speaker 2: an irrefutable, dead set laid down the sea legend with

928
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Speaker 2: a record to back it up. And the day you're

929
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Speaker 2: standing down one of the great coaching talents of New

930
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Speaker 2: Zealand's sport because there are clearly a bunch of cry

931
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Speaker 2: babies in the team who don't want to go hard anymore.

932
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Speaker 2: There's something seriously wrong with the sport. And that's before

933
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Speaker 2: you get to all the other things that are seriously

934
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Speaker 2: wrong with netball up until this particular point in time.

935
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Speaker 2: More Sport with Andrew Webster after eight meantime, The.

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Speaker 4: News is next.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News,

939
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Speaker 1: togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be Mike, have a look at Harry's garage on YouTube

941
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Speaker 2: about two or three days ago. It's about Pete car

942
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Clarkson's and it's very good already seen them and I

943
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Speaker 2: was going to raise it, and I may do, but

944
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of other things to deal with,

945
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Speaker 2: one of which is Tukta Ferris, which I raised on

946
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Speaker 2: the program yesterday, not specifically him, but the more the

947
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Speaker 2: broader issue of Hipkin's got a front at some point

948
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Speaker 2: is that the sort of crazy you want in the government.

949
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Speaker 2: That's what he's got a front, That's what he's got.

950
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Speaker 2: What what job does Takertu Ferris have in the Ladder government,

951
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: a coalition of the Greens and the Merry Party. So

952
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Speaker 2: I got to deal with that, and I got to

953
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Speaker 2: deal with this unfolding story around Adriaan Orr. It's sort

954
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: of drip drip, drip, death by a thousand cuts. The

955
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: current thing is the relationship between Treasury, the warning from

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Speaker 2: Treasury to Nicola Willis, and whether Nikola Willis knew more

957
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Speaker 2: than she said, which she did, but her defense being

958
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Speaker 2: I couldn't say for protection purposes, and I'm not sure

959
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Speaker 2: whether she's right on that, but more than just a

960
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Speaker 2: couple of moments. Twenty two Toway, Webster Andrew after eight

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Speaker 2: The Warriors, of course. Meantime, back to this good news,

962
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Speaker 2: good news for travelers. Really Jetstar booster's business more flights

963
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: domestically and across the Tasman Steph Tully is the CEO

964
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Speaker 2: of jet Star, of course, and is whether Steph morning, Hey, Mike,

965
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Speaker 2: how are you very well? The fact you could get

966
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Speaker 2: two ministers out onto a windy, blowy old Wellington runway

967
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: shows you the politics of this sort of decision, doesn't

968
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a political game flying people up

969
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Speaker 2: and down the country.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was good timing that they were both in

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Speaker 12: and for our announcement yesterday, so it was they got

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Speaker 12: to stand in the tarmac and watch get south light Land,

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Speaker 12: which was very good.

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Speaker 2: How do you pull the trigger on decisions like this?

975
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Speaker 2: How much of this, how much study goes into what's

976
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Speaker 2: happening in an economy and how bullish on that economy?

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Speaker 2: Are you that you would do what you've done.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, We've obviously been in New Zealand for twenty years now,

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Speaker 12: sixteen years domestically, and I think what we've seen in

980
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Speaker 12: the last couple of years particularly is just we're really

981
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Speaker 12: grateful New Zealanders have given Jetstar ag so we've seen

982
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Speaker 12: some shift in preference for Jetstar. We've seen demand for

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Speaker 12: jet Star, So I think we study it closely and

984
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Speaker 12: we look at the opportunities to open your markets like

985
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Speaker 12: we yesterday and increase capacity on existing markets, which is

986
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Speaker 12: which is good for customers because it's more.

987
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Speaker 2: Choice in sort of related matters. In that sense, do

988
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: you think you've been missing market share or are you

989
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: looking to grow the market.

990
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 12: Oh, look, I think we're just looking to provide Kiwis

991
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 12: a forecond option. I think you know they deserve a

992
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 12: second option, and jetstart gives you good lowfares option.

993
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Speaker 4: We are.

994
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Speaker 12: Operational performance has really improved over the last couple of years,

995
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Speaker 12: so we you know, in the last months we were

996
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Speaker 12: the best at on time performance and had the lowest cancelations,

997
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 12: yet we're fifty percent cheaper. So I think it's just,

998
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Speaker 12: you know, we're really committed to our own value proposition

999
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Speaker 12: and making sure that there's a second choice on many

1000
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Speaker 12: of the routes in New Zealanders to choose. And I

1001
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 12: think you know, there's opportunity for jets started to build

1002
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Speaker 12: new demand, but also to shift share as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because the problem if you're not growing demand is

1004
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: that someone's going to bleed here, aren't they. I mean,

1005
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, slicing the same pie

1006
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Speaker 2: into smaller pieces never works.

1007
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Speaker 12: Well, yeah, we agree, and I think those opportunities to

1008
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Speaker 12: still increase that demand. When you look at New Zealand's

1009
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Speaker 12: tourism overall, we're still not back at pre COVID levels,

1010
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 12: whereas other countries certainly are. So it's important that we're

1011
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 12: all working together, airport's, government, airlines to make sure that

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Speaker 12: we are sating visitation to this country and providing an

1013
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 12: environment where you know, there's there's people wanting to visit

1014
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 12: New Zellain, if not once a year, multiple times a year.

1015
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 12: So it's particularly Australian. So you know, we see our

1016
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Speaker 12: role in that as a really important part of that system.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: The broader question for you, and this is this is

1019
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: you're involved. It's not your fault. The reliability numbers that

1020
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: came out from the Ministry of I can't remember whoever

1021
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: does it. The reliability on the Tasman is shocking.

1022
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Speaker 12: Why Yeah, I mean, I think there's a number of

1023
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 12: factors that going to reliability and I think you're committed

1024
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Speaker 12: we do. It's a thousand things every day that make

1025
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Speaker 12: in our unreliable. So we've got lots of people just

1026
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Speaker 12: working hard to make sure we can we can do that.

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Speaker 12: International you generally have longer sort of turnaround times because

1028
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 12: you've obviously got longer borders through processing times. But we're

1029
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Speaker 12: committed to making that better mIRC as well as we

1030
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Speaker 12: have done domestically as well, and that's the proof is

1031
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Speaker 12: out there.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you is alway Steff Tully,

1033
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Speaker 2: who's the boss of Jitsta. Let me come back to Nikola,

1034
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Speaker 2: will listen. Just a couple of Moments nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1036
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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

1037
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Speaker 2: It be Charlie Kirk. Still nothing in terms of whether

1038
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: he survived this. The gunman who's in custody. By the way,

1039
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Speaker 2: he was apparently two hundred yards away, which indicates a

1040
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Speaker 2: fairly high powered piece of weaponry. Back to Takatay Ferris

1041
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: or Takata Ferris. The problem is, if you've missed the

1042
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Speaker 2: story he doubled down on social media, his look at

1043
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 2: the video and just come to your own conclusions about

1044
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: what sort of state he's in when he's doing it.

1045
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: The whole things is weird, as the point being it

1046
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: discredits the Murray Party. But most importantly, and I've been

1047
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: trying to build this up as a story because this

1048
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: is going to be one of the big talking points

1049
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: next year, and that is who are labor going to

1050
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: coalesce with? Who can they work with? Can they get

1051
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: away with the Greens? Probably? Yes, the Greens are nutty, Yes,

1052
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: there's some extremists in there, but they can probably coor

1053
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: less reasonably comfortably, whether it be in a formal coalition

1054
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: if they win the election. This is why I'm telling

1055
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: you Labor is not going to win next year. This

1056
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: is all part of my ongoing building block argument. They

1057
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: will not win this next year because these guys in

1058
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: the Maray Party don't for start, they don't even want

1059
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Speaker 2: to be in government. They're not interested. And Ferris is

1060
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: a classic example of that. They're all rogue. They're out

1061
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: there telling people that there are journalists hiding in the

1062
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Speaker 2: bushes filming them. I mean, they're all nuts. So anyway,

1063
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Speaker 2: the problem with Ferris is he's going at the fact

1064
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: that Maori seats are for Maori people only, and you

1065
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: don't want your Asians or your black people campaigning in

1066
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Speaker 2: Maori seats, and it's just it's all insanity. And Hipkins

1067
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: has to explain that if they're going to be in

1068
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form associated with them, and the

1069
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Speaker 2: problem is he can't. So therefore that's why he's not

1070
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Speaker 2: going to win. Right back to willis so in a nutshell.

1071
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. So Rennie, the guy Rennie who's the

1072
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Speaker 2: Secretary of the Treasury, this is all packs are sad

1073
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Speaker 2: in a meeting or packs are sad. It's all about

1074
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 2: the money for the bank. He wants a billion dollars

1075
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: over five years, he's not going to get it. The

1076
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 2: board looks like they're going to agree with the lower

1077
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: figure with the government, which of course they have. Or

1078
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Speaker 2: packs are massive sad. He storms out of a meeting

1079
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: he's with Willis and Treasury and all that sort of stuff. Quickly,

1080
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: the chair writes to Or and goes, mate, you can't

1081
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: behave that way. What we didn't know until yesterday from

1082
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: the text from Rennie to Willis was always about to

1083
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: get sacked. That's new. So we thought always just packing sad,

1084
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: and there was some sort of process in play, and

1085
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: he was gonna go, look, it's not me. I can't

1086
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: do it. I'm out. He was about to get sacked,

1087
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: and the recommendation was potentially going to come to Willis

1088
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: to make the recommendation. Now, Labor advocating quite heavily and

1089
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: hard in the House that Willis is complicit in this

1090
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: and she should have told us more. She says she shouldn't,

1091
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: and she shouldn't have because this was an ongoing live

1092
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: employment process and she didn't want to usurp or cause

1093
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: any more trouble than was already unfolding in that. On

1094
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: the surface, I think I agree with it. But the

1095
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: difficulty with this story at this present point in time

1096
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: is that each day passes with new information. So on

1097
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: the surface, at the moment, I think she's in the

1098
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: right because when they say to her, look, you may

1099
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: have to we may recommend that this guy gets rolled

1100
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to play a role in that.

1101
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: That's all fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But you

1102
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: don't then go blabbing that to the media for obvious reasons.

1103
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: I would have thought. But if there's still more to come,

1104
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: because Quigley's come out of this shockingly, Oor's come out

1105
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: of this shockingly because the letter that Quigley wrote to

1106
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: war Or goes Hey, as part of me leaving, can

1107
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: you bin the letter so nobody sees what a prat

1108
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: I am. And he agreed to that. And that's before

1109
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: you get to the fact he got money. So they're

1110
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 2: about to sack the guy, and they're writing him a check.

1111
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: So these are the interesting parts. The fact they're about

1112
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: to sack him is interesting in and of itself. What

1113
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: labor will be trying to do as draws or join

1114
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: some dots, because of course there is no doubt that

1115
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: willis and Luxon and the government in general wanted or gone.

1116
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: He should never have got a second appointment, and he

1117
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: was appointed by Robertson in a very very underhand kind

1118
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: of way in terms of he should have left it

1119
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: for the next government to maybe maybe not employed, at

1120
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: which point the government when it came to power would

1121
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: not have employed him. So National got stuck with him.

1122
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: They didn't like what he did, didn't like how he

1123
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: handled the economy. So it's not like they didn't, you know,

1124
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: weren't glad to see him go. But so this is

1125
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: where the Willis thing comes in, And if you're a conspiratorialist,

1126
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: this is where Barbara Edmonds comes in and goes, oh,

1127
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: look look the look at the text. And that's what

1128
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: they're trying to prosecute at the moment. So at this

1129
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: point Willis is clean. But as I say, I mean,

1130
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: who the hell knows what's coming out in the next

1131
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: few days. But what a mess, I mean, what an

1132
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: embarrassment for one of the most influential institutions in this country,

1133
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: an institution that affects every single one of us each

1134
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: single day. Turn away from it.

1135
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: The make Hosking break with a Vita retirement Communities News togsdadvs.

1136
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: Shiving away from It. The James Dyson Awards celebrate our

1137
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: best young inventors and University of Canterby engineering student Mark

1138
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Campbell's won it for his adaptive glasses. Now, these are

1139
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: smart LCD lenses that detect harmful light patterns instantly darken

1140
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: and that provides protection for people with epilepsy and Mark

1141
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: as well, a smart.

1142
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 11: Morning to you, Hey, thanks for having me.

1143
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Not at all. Does it work with migraines as well?

1144
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 17: Yes, so it's designed for people with photo sensitive epilepsy

1145
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 17: as well as photophobia.

1146
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: Fantastic and it works. It works every time. It's bulletproof,

1147
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: it's doable.

1148
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 17: Yes, well, we're still in the early stages of developing

1149
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 17: the prototypes. But I'm working to greig down on it

1150
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 17: and I will develop it so that it's it's as

1151
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 17: bulletproof as possible.

1152
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: So what did you have to explain to the judges?

1153
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: Is it the idea or is it the actual You know,

1154
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: to what stage do you have to present judges a product?

1155
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 17: So with the James Dyson Award, you can submit ideas

1156
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 17: and later products in the latest stages. But I've developed

1157
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 17: a prototype, so I submitted a prototype that that was

1158
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 17: developed so that it was actually functional.

1159
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: Do they what do they look like currently and does

1160
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: it mean they have to look that way forever or

1161
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: could they be manufactured in a style of any glass

1162
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: you want. It's the lens that's the key.

1163
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 17: So it's currently in a three D printed produce three

1164
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 17: D printed casing, so it's still in the pretty early stages,

1165
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 17: so it's not the prettiest, but it was the main

1166
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 17: goal with that prototype was just still something that was functional,

1167
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 17: So laid it down the line and we'll look at

1168
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 17: that pretty aer with maybe injection molded parts. But at

1169
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 17: the moment it's not the prettiest, but it does.

1170
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 12: Do the track right.

1171
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: How cutting edge is the.

1172
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 17: Tech so current there are currently no products that are

1173
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 17: like this, so it's pretty new to this industry.

1174
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: Well, and you got the idea of them from where.

1175
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 17: So I originally got the idea from automatic darkening welding masks,

1176
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 17: which are similar in the way that they protect welders

1177
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 17: from blinding sparks, but I applied it to a different

1178
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 17: industry and the area of photosensitive epilepsy and photophobia.

1179
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: How much time, energy and money has gone into this.

1180
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 17: A lot of times, so I've started this project about

1181
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 17: a year and a half ago and there's just been

1182
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 17: a city stream of working to develop it, to get

1183
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 17: it to the most to the most robust stage that

1184
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 17: I'm at now where it can actively detect slashes and

1185
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 17: safely darken.

1186
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: Wow, have you got you got patents on it?

1187
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 11: Yes?

1188
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 17: So before entering the James Dyson Award, I was working

1189
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 17: to develop a provisional patient which has been filed.

1190
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Now brilliant, So this is scalable. Do you think commercially?

1191
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 17: I think so. The next steps that are kind of

1192
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 17: just to develop the prototype and make it as robust

1193
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 17: and unobtrusive as possible. But once that is done, I

1194
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 17: think there would be potential and to commercialize it.

1195
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: And what's the time frame you reckon?

1196
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 17: It's hard to know. I think that once medical testing

1197
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 17: is done and it's validated, I think it can. It

1198
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 17: might only be a year after then that it could

1199
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 17: be starting to get into people's hands.

1200
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. When do you graduate?

1201
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 17: I graduate in two years, so I am in my

1202
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 17: first year of university.

1203
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: And you'll do what?

1204
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 17: So I'm currently doing a bachelor's of Product design, but

1205
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 17: I am unsure as to what I will do after university.

1206
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: I think you'll be okay, Mark, something tells me you'll

1207
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: you'll go. Well, go on your make Congratulations on it,

1208
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: well done, Mark Campbell, who's the James Dyson Award winner?

1209
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: And god, we found a really bright, astute, alert, successful

1210
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: young New Zealander. Excellent Mike. When it comes to election outcomes,

1211
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: what of Labor rolled Chippy? And then we must never

1212
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: forget the king maker winn Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't run

1213
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: that pun, It's not happening. Winston said under Hepkins, he's

1214
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: not going to be going with Labor. So everyone is

1215
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: adding two and two and coming up with eighteen. They

1216
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: are not rolling Hepkins. Luxon and Hepkins will both lead

1217
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: their respective parties to the election campaign of twenty twenty six.

1218
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: That is what makes the whole equation so simple, because

1219
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: Labor can't get there unless they have the Maori Party

1220
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: and all the Greens. And that's the problem. Andrew Webster,

1221
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: what's he going to do this weekend? What he's going

1222
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: to win this weekend, of course, but how's he going

1223
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: to do it? Andrew Webster is.

1224
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Next the Mike host game in Safeful, Engaging and Vital

1225
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: the mic Hosking breakfast with Range Rover leading by example.

1226
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: News togs Head be.

1227
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, seven past eight Finals time for the Warriors.

1228
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: We finished six, We face the Panthers, we lose. The

1229
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: season that's over upside, the game is at home. Andrew

1230
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Webster's back with us. Good morning, morning mate. Your satisfaction levels.

1231
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: Let's do a one to ten.

1232
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 17: Ten.

1233
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: You couldn't be happier one year. Depressed your satisfaction levels

1234
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: with where we're at as of now and how we got.

1235
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 7: Here, I'd say a seven seven and be a bit

1236
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 7: of context to it. I think it started you. We

1237
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 7: would have taken been in the top six and having

1238
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 7: a crack at finals. But I don't think where anyone's

1239
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 7: very happy with the back end of best season. We

1240
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 7: could have played a lot better, certainly been circumstances, but

1241
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 7: yeah we're in control of that and probably not playing

1242
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 7: our best footy. But new competition starts now.

1243
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Okay, injuries and listens from the injuries? Are we and

1244
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: you you would be across the NRL better than I am.

1245
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: Are we any more badly injured than any other top team?

1246
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: Or are we unlucky? What's happened there?

1247
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 7: Well, I'd say we've had like big injuries. We've had

1248
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 7: ACL injuries which men season ending for long periods of time.

1249
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 7: So but I think if you looked at say the

1250
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 7: Melmourne Storm, what they're going through right this second, the

1251
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 7: Dermees Hues, he's now gone for the season. They're probably

1252
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 7: going through a bit of pain right now. But as

1253
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 7: far as losing your origin front rower for the season

1254
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 7: with an ACL and you're your number one half back

1255
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 7: at the time that met that, they're they're pretty big blows.

1256
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 7: But I'd say we've got very good depth and it's

1257
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 7: allowed us to play a lot of young players and

1258
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 7: bring them along for the future as well.

1259
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Right was that ideal in the sense that several part

1260
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: questions the injuries that come of it. Is there something

1261
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: that can be done about that, you know, fitness preparation, whatever,

1262
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: or is that just bad luck? And in bringing young

1263
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: players through, is that is that a positive choice or

1264
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: a choice made because you have to.

1265
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 7: Un bit of bud like we've had. We've had options

1266
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 7: for some more senior players to take people's and we're

1267
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 7: elected to go with the future. So that's something we're

1268
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 7: much rather than mitchepartment on the field as round. Are

1269
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 7: we in bad luck as a bad luck poor management?

1270
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 7: It's bad luck, particularly these days to health. There are

1271
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 7: certain things you can do around a field prevention, but

1272
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 7: if you look at the mechanics of those two injuries

1273
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 7: the way they happened, they're just they're just extremely unfortunate

1274
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 7: and put in a really unfortunate situation at the time.

1275
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: What do you think? What was you thinking for a

1276
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: better part of the season, the four where we sat

1277
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: in the top four and we were there for a

1278
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: sustained period of time. What were you thinking during that

1279
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: period that we were better than we deserve to be,

1280
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: that this is about where we should be, and therefore

1281
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: you now disappointed? What was you thinking?

1282
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 7: Then, Well, we're there so long, so I thought different

1283
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 7: things at different times, like a week in rugby leagues

1284
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 7: a long time. But remember we were top four, We've

1285
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 7: got one of the buyers who played the Sharks extremely dominant.

1286
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 7: We just lot lost Mitz Barnett actually, and we're extremely

1287
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 7: dominant even though he wasn't playing. I thought, you know,

1288
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 7: we're a real good squatty where we're tracking while we're

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Speaker 7: playing and sole football we want to play. And then

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Speaker 7: obviously he asked me two weeks ago were still in

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Speaker 7: the fall and I was like, we're not actually playing

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Speaker 7: at this football here. We don't look and resemble what

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Speaker 7: we did when we played the Sharks. But I'm one

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Speaker 7: of those guys that timing everything and if we play

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Speaker 7: our best best football for the next four weeks, we

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Speaker 7: could all be very happy.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope. So listen, hold on a couple of

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Speaker 2: moments because after the flour, of course we fell out

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Speaker 2: of the four, so we need to diggle with that.

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Speaker 2: More from Andrew Webster in just a couple of moments

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Speaker 2: eleven past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iheartradiow By News.

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Speaker 2: Talks it Be News Talks every fourteen past eight. Finals

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Speaker 2: time for the Warriors this weekend. Andrew Webster's with us, right,

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Speaker 2: So top four. We talked about put this into con

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01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: text if you can. What happened from the fall out

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Speaker 2: of the top four and and and you know, so

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Speaker 2: the last handful of games, what was the problem. Is

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01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: it just injuries or something else?

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Speaker 7: No? No, injuries. Yeah, Like I'm happy to always put

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01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 7: our journey into context with injuries, but I'm not happy

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Speaker 7: to use as an excuse. That's for sure. No injuries

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 7: aren't seen. I mean, concentration level has been a big

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Speaker 7: one for us, and that sounds like, well, why they're concentrating,

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Speaker 7: But we just we just had really big moments. For

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Speaker 7: a given example, we played Paramatter well twelve, all doubt,

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01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 7: and they just scored real long range tries. When we

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 7: looked to score, they were like, they're like big momentum

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 7: swings and viral parts of the game, and that's kind

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Speaker 7: of what's kill on. So we completely dominant, not dominated

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 7: field position, get to Paramatter and but yet we're down

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Speaker 7: by twelve points. So just moments like that, mainly on

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 7: a weekend, we've gone from the best completion team the

1324
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 7: competition to one of the worst. It's something we can

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Speaker 7: completely fix and it's in our control.

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Speaker 2: And do you feel you can fix it by this weekend?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean I'd be a poor coach

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01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 7: if I didn't believe it. And I may as well

1329
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 7: tell the players don't go out there this week, Let's

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 7: go on a holiday. Now we're motivated. Were glob in itself?

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: What's the scenario or your explanation behind Well, one of

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: my sort of observations, I mean, see everyone's observation. The Bulldogs,

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: the Storm, the Raiders. So we're sitting in the four

1334
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: and they're the other three. We play them. We couldn't

1335
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: beat them. We couldn't beat the sides we needed in

1336
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 2: some way, shape or form to eventually need to beat.

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01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: What was the issue there or what is the issue there?

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Speaker 7: Well, each one of them is different circumstances at different moments,

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 7: I'd say, But yeah, like I can't hide the fact

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01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 7: that we've beat us all three times. I can't Raiders

1341
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 7: beat us twice. I thought we were really good against

1342
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 7: the Raiders at home in the solid way at the end,

1343
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 7: and they beat us. But I felt like a little

1344
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 7: bit different to the Las Vegas experience. Round one. I

1345
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 7: thought we were a lot better. We're up for the fight,

1346
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 7: we knew what we were doing. I thought we'd come

1347
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 7: a long way at that point. But yeah, we got

1348
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 7: done by the Bulldogs in the pouring rain. Round five

1349
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 7: against Melbourne. They are absolutely conscious in the faith, So

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Speaker 7: I did set believe those four games against those three

1351
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 7: teams have been great lessons for us. So you're right.

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 7: The only top four team we knocked off of Coronola,

1353
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 7: and that's where they were in the top four at

1354
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 7: the time, they're not there. They're obviously sick. Yeah, that's

1355
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 7: probably the only occasion.

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Speaker 2: The observation for many was that, yes, we're in the four,

1357
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: but the dogs are storming the raiders. They were in

1358
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: a league of their own, and somehow it was it

1359
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: was a different competition. Is that fair or not?

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01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 7: I don't believe so. No, I don't believe so. But

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 7: as a result we fell out of the eight, so

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01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 7: out of the four, so you could say that those

1363
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 7: people were correct. I'm like, it's a good question, but

1364
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Speaker 7: a question that I'm not going to put too much

1365
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 7: energy into because I really have to care about them now.

1366
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 7: But if we're going to dig into our season and

1367
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 7: am I commenting on where people right in insight, they

1368
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 7: probably work because we don't come, we don't make the

1369
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 7: top four. But I just want to be judged on

1370
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 7: where we are now and what's about to happen ahead

1371
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 7: of us, because I think everyone would love a ticket

1372
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 7: to the finals, and the eight teams get one and

1373
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 7: we're top six get a home final. So I just

1374
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 7: want to be judged on how we are now. If

1375
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 7: I like care.

1376
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: About are you talking to the side when it comes

1377
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: to playoffs now, so do you talk to them differently

1378
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: because it's the Panthers or is it just a playoff

1379
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: game no matter who it is.

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 7: No, we just take into consideration to the opponents every week,

1381
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 7: like their strengths, that weakness is what we're good at.

1382
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 7: Like we're not putting them on a pedestal. We respect them.

1383
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 7: So we're not beating before we get to the start

1384
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 7: line because we think they're better than it. Our whole

1385
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 7: thing is, does no matter who we play, let's not

1386
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 7: beat ourselves. Let's play our best football and let's see

1387
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 7: where it takes it as opposed to not playing our football.

1388
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 7: And then everyone tells that Panthers are better than you.

1389
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 7: We don't want that leads if they're better than this

1390
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 7: after this eighty minutes and we've played our best football,

1391
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 7: and I think we can all live with that during

1392
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 7: our break and we've got to come back and improve.

1393
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 7: But I just believe that we can play our best football.

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01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: And I know you don't want to contemplate it. Nobody does.

1395
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: But say the Panthers do win and they go on

1396
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: to win the whole thing, where does that put them

1397
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: new reckon given where they were or a chunk of

1398
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: the season at the back of the field, the reigning

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Speaker 2: champions who were nowhere and came back to win it

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Speaker 2: all again. I mean, that's that's surely one of the

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Speaker 2: great stories.

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Speaker 7: I think. Yeah, I don't even really want to contemplate

1403
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: that because that means they beat it. But I manifest victory,

1404
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 7: so they don't manifest lost. But I will repeat this.

1405
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 7: They're a great thing. Got a lot of respect for them.

1406
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 7: I think each year they've had a different journey on

1407
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 7: how they've achieved things. They've got to lose one day,

1408
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 7: you know. I don't know when that's going to be,

1409
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 7: but hopefully it's just this Saturday night, and that's a

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Speaker 7: line manifesting right now.

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Speaker 3: Is a victory fair enough.

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Speaker 2: I thought Fisher Harris's comments were interesting that he likes

1413
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: the fact that no one across the Tasman backs you.

1414
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: Do you share in that view?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's great.

1416
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 7: There's no pressure on our side. Like, if I'm being honest,

1417
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 7: I think our fans love us and respect this, care

1418
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 7: about us. We've got their backing. But over there they

1419
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 7: they just think we're making up the numbers. And I

1420
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 7: think it makes for a great story when we prove

1421
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 7: them wrong, but it doesn't motivate me like I just

1422
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 7: only the only the reason why I turned up to

1423
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 7: be a coach is to give all the fans what

1424
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 7: they've been craving for so long and to make sure

1425
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 7: our players can fill their drink. So if we can

1426
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 7: do that, that's my motivation and they'd be the best

1427
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Speaker 7: day of Then.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a home crowd. I'm assume it's going to

1429
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Speaker 2: be sold out, isn't it.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 7: Well it was when I left yesterday. It was on

1431
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,520
Speaker 7: that path and I haven't had any official official notification,

1432
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 7: but I'd say it definitely.

1433
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: Good on you. Well, we wish you all the best

1434
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: as always, fabulous to catch up with you. Go well

1435
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Speaker 2: this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that might thank you.

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Speaker 2: Whereby Mike really positive tone therefore is lasting to be

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Speaker 2: as the Warriors coach. Give him credit. Mike, I believe

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Speaker 2: he's a great coach. He's been hit with some eyewatering

1466
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: injuries to his team this year. Yeah, big, I thought

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Speaker 2: that was a good explanation. They're big injuries. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's injuries and injuries. Great interview with Andrew Webs, a

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Speaker 2: great overview of the season and the finals ahead, honest

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: and insightful. I agree. Michah texted last week and said,

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Speaker 2: why on earth are you confident we've beat the seig

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Speaker 2: Also naturally armis cynic, but I've got a weird feeling

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Speaker 2: we haven't fired our last shot and we're going to

1474
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Speaker 2: come up with something special against the Panthers. Well, let's hope. So,

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Speaker 2: Mike just got off the phone from my daughter, who

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Speaker 2: was in her third year of teaching product design. She

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Speaker 2: just before eight o'clock this morning, Mark Campbell, and is

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Speaker 2: absolutely buzzing for a success. She's been updating me on

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Speaker 2: this for a couple of years now. Prior to his

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Speaker 2: current project, he created and successfully tested an autonomous Mars

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Speaker 2: robolike vehicle. Your assessment on him is absolutely spot on.

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Speaker 2: If he keeps tracking like he is, he will be

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Speaker 2: a great New Zealander. He has certainly inspired my daughter

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Speaker 2: and validated her choice to moving to teaching. Isn't that good?

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Speaker 2: Very uplifting? Back to Harry's Garage. Yeah, I cannot recommend

1487
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Speaker 2: this enough. Have a look at Harry's Garrett. Harry metcalf

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Speaker 2: is a legend of the motoring industry. British guy has

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Speaker 2: a channel called Harry's Garage and he started EVO magazine.

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Speaker 2: If you're into cars, EVO magazine's famous. And Harry does

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Speaker 2: his YouTube and he puts that cat. Anyway, he's just

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Speaker 2: down the road from Clarkson. They got a couple of farms,

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Speaker 2: and they've got farms sort of next door to each other,

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Speaker 2: and they sat down the other day in this video

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Speaker 2: as well worth watching. So it's basically just a couple

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Speaker 2: of old farts talking about cars. In fact, Clarkson at

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Speaker 2: one point says, I realized I sound like an old fart.

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Speaker 2: But they were talking about peak cars. They both drive jags,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Clarkson's got an F type and Harry's

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Speaker 2: got what's called a project date which look at that,

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Speaker 2: that's a brilliant car. Anyway, they're talking about Pete Carro

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Speaker 2: and they reckon peak car was about twenty fifteen, ten

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Speaker 2: years ago, and in ten years ago your car. It

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Speaker 2: had everything you needed, had the air con, had the abs,

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: had plenty of power, It was reliable, it was comfortable,

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Speaker 2: it was fantastic. And most cars since then have not

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Speaker 2: added to the sum total of anything. They've just become

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Speaker 2: sort of rolling computer boxes. But it's a very entertaining,

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Speaker 2: very interesting insight in the car is well worth watching.

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Speaker 4: News, opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all

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Speaker 1: your real estate needs.

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Speaker 4: Use togs head, be Mike.

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Speaker 2: While you were washing fifty towels, did you Well, it's

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Speaker 2: not just towels, it's towels and face cloths as well.

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Speaker 2: So while you're washing, did you have a snow of

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Speaker 2: lint all over the floor? Well, of course I did.

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Speaker 2: If not, what's the brand, Well it's not not. You

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Speaker 2: want lint, Kathy, because that's the sign of a quality

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Speaker 2: of towel. You soften them up, that's all. So do

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Speaker 2: you do you dryer or clothedline? What do you think, Linn,

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Speaker 2: I don't have a clothesline.

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Speaker 3: I'm just putting that out there to stir people up.

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Speaker 2: I knew what was clothes dryer? Is Is that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people and matters conspired against us this morning.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people said you should travel with

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Speaker 2: your flannels.

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Speaker 3: Well, we started doing that because you just can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't depend on there being any flannels in it

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Speaker 4: anywhere you go.

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Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing, isn't it to have to pack

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Speaker 2: to travel with flannels? But then you have a wet flannel?

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Speaker 2: What do you do with it? I mean, then you're stuck,

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Speaker 2: aren't you. So you're on holiday, So then you've got

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Speaker 2: to have a ziploc bag. So because I run the

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Speaker 2: one flannel per go and then wash the flannel, and

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Speaker 2: the thought of having a wet flannel about the place

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Speaker 2: is more than I can bear, So I don't think

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Speaker 2: I would travel.

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Speaker 3: That's why you need fifty of them. Yeah, we travel flannels.

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Speaker 2: Obviously. It's such a fascinating Did you just take a

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Speaker 2: roll with you. I've just been telling the boss I

1543
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Speaker 2: need a couple of things. I need more of me

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Speaker 2: on the program. That sounds a little bit arrogant, but

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Speaker 2: it's not the way I mean it. And or I

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: need a longer show because it's that sort of area

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: suddenly you develop and I don't have time for this

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Speaker 2: twenty two minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Stop complaining you're lucky to have it job and I

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Speaker 2: thought that was over the top.

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Speaker 1: But International correspondence with INDs inn Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 11: Rob morning mate, Good morning to you mate.

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Speaker 2: Reading a very entertaining piece the other day from Chris

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Speaker 2: Mason out of the BBC, who talks about the cacophony

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Speaker 2: of noise coming out in the Labor Party at the

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Speaker 2: moment over the deputy leadership of that party, Emily Thornbury.

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Speaker 2: He cites she served in Sakiah Starmer's shadow cabinet before

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Speaker 2: the general election, expected to be offered a candidet job.

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Speaker 2: The job never came. Now she's running his deputy. It's

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Speaker 2: a storyline with a certain soap opera appeal, he writes.

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Speaker 2: He's not wrong.

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Speaker 11: Yes, it's all from the annals of the soap opera.

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Speaker 11: Emily Thornbury particularly who bears a grudge is from the

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Speaker 11: far left of the party, or at least the left

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 11: of the party are reserved far left for a couple

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Speaker 11: of the other candidates, and who she's the one who

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Speaker 11: takes offense when she sees a Union jack or a

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Speaker 11: cross of Saint George. But she's standing for deputy leader.

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Speaker 11: I don't think she'll get it, but she does have

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Speaker 11: some support on the left of the party. Basically, what's

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 11: happened is we have this massive contest, this beauty contest,

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 11: in which all six of the candidates are strong independent women,

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Speaker 11: as you would imagine exactly at the time when kar

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Speaker 11: Starmer could at least do with it. It's a distraction

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Speaker 11: and as David Blunkett, the former Home Secretary under Tony Blair,

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Speaker 11: said today, they should postpone it basically, but no, the

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Speaker 11: activists will have their say and Sir Keir Starmer will

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Speaker 11: end up being saddled with someone who he really really

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Speaker 11: doesn't want as a deputy leader.

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Speaker 2: How does the actual process work, I mean, so does

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Speaker 2: the party membership vote? How many of them are there

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: is a first past the post as at first of

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Speaker 2: fifty percent, what.

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Speaker 11: Happens it's kind of an agglomeration of first part of

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Speaker 11: the post and proportional representation in which you know certain candidates,

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Speaker 11: probably not including Emily Thorn, but she'll get through to

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Speaker 11: the last few will be knocked out as this goes along.

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Speaker 11: But basically, basically it's down to the activists. They have

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Speaker 11: the casting vote, so that it will almost certainly be

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Speaker 11: someone from the left of the party. The very best

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Speaker 11: the severe Starmer can hope for is that it's the

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Speaker 11: current Education Secretary who is kind of on the left

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Speaker 11: of the party, Bridget Phillipson, but who at least has

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Speaker 11: a small sintillar of common sense running through her policies.

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Speaker 11: Other than that, there are candidates who wish for Britain

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Speaker 11: to give over all of its wealth to Africa to

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Speaker 11: make reparations for slavery and so on, and people who

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 11: thought there shouldn't be an inquiry into grooming gangs, which

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01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 11: we've had in this country because it upsets the Asian community.

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Speaker 11: So there are bad people who could get this job,

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Speaker 11: and Sakir Starmer is very well aware of that.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like the ghost of Jeremy Corbyn. It's like

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Speaker 2: the bad old days of Labor.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, no, it's back to the bad old days.

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Speaker 11: And the fortunate thing for Starmer is that, of course

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Speaker 11: he doesn't have to have the deputy leader of the

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Speaker 11: Labor Party also being the Deputy Prime Minister. There is

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Speaker 11: no reason why that should happen. But you know, he's

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Speaker 11: got a parliamentary Labor Party which is in revolt over

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 11: a whole bunch of issues, particularly including welfare payments, and

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Speaker 11: he's got activists who are in revolt, and he's at

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Speaker 11: the lowest point in the polls that he's ever been.

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Speaker 2: I was reading the other day guy called Stuart rise

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Speaker 2: who's the former M and ACE boss. He said, Starmer

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01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: and Reeves have taken Britain to the edge of a crisis.

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Speaker 2: Is he right?

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Speaker 11: Yes, exactly right. I think we're possibly slightly less of

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 11: a parlous crisis than the French are, but it's only

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01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 11: a matter of a couple of degrees. And if there

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Speaker 11: isn't serious cuts made to the to our incredible expanding

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Speaker 11: welfare budget, as well as a hold put on the

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Speaker 11: number of people coming into the country who aren't contributing

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Speaker 11: to the economy, we are in very, very grave danger

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Speaker 11: of needing to go to the ins, which of course

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Speaker 11: we've asked it in about nineteen seventy six with Dennisee

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Speaker 11: the the Marches.

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Speaker 2: I mean, question one is everybody in Britain, apart from

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Speaker 2: the people on the march thoroughly sick of marches in

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: two Is it about actually achieving anything or is this

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: really just about activism?

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Speaker 11: Oh, it's pointless. I'm sure there are marches. I've been

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Speaker 11: in London for a week and there are marches every

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Speaker 11: day and protests every day. This is an interesting one

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 11: in that it's got the name of Tommy Robinson associated

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01:19:55,280 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 11: with it, but it's also more straightforwardly just about we

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01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 11: believe in the right to wave our flag, waves sent

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 11: George's flag. I was told that a million people might

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 11: be expected on it. If the figures are anywhere in

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 11: that region, then it really is a sign that, you know,

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 11: something has snapped within kind of ordinary people in this

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01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 11: country and they're sick of the way in which the

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01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 11: flag is looked down on, freedom, speet, been limited, et cetera.

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Speaker 11: If it's only one hundred thousand, which is still quite

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01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 11: a lot, then maybe it will make no difference whatsoever.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 11: But if they go anywhere there are a million, that

1649
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 11: really is a big, a big message to the government.

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Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it very much. Rod Little out

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Speaker 2: of Britons one just quickly Starmers met the Israeli president,

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01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: which would have an interesting desize. I heard sog So

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01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: we don't know how that winks. Greg Wallace is suing

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: the BBC, which is probably not surprising. What we also

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Speaker 2: know is that Harry had fifty five minutes with us dead.

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01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Is that unusual? Fifty five minutes unusual and you haven't

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Speaker 2: seen somebody for a year and a half. Fifty five

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 2: minutes seems sort of odd, doesn't it. I know I'm

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Speaker 2: coming to that. Sixteen minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 4: This is a newstalk sa'd be developing story.

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Speaker 2: The President, Donald Trump says, Charlie Kirk has died. So

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Speaker 2: that's from the shooting about an hour ago. This is

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Speaker 2: the Utah University. If you just joined us, you didn't

1664
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: catch up. At the time, Kirk was giving one of

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Speaker 2: his dissertations. This is where he comes from, of course,

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Speaker 2: the university campuses of America. He was under a Tar

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Speaker 2: Paul and the format of the day, basically, it was

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Speaker 2: a Sunday day in Utah. It was outdoors. He is

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01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: in front of thousands of people and he was running

1670
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: a basically a Q and A said have a microphone

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Speaker 2: challenge me, let's debate stuff. At that point, a shot,

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Speaker 2: singular shot rang out from what appears to be a

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Speaker 2: high powered rifle and as we now know, there's a

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Speaker 2: man in custody mid sixties, I guess bald white. It

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: seemed a high powered rifle. Was a single shot into

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01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: the neck, and at that point we were waiting. He

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: was in critically taken obviously to the hospital and he

1678
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: was in critical condition. But Trump is now claiming Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk is dead. Fourteen to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Mike USTv is reporting the shooter still on the run.

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01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: Some are, some aren't. I will come to that in

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments, very quickly. I alluded to

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Speaker 2: this and just to wrap it up, Kim dot Com.

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Speaker 2: The sad thing about Kim dot Com is US New

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Speaker 2: Zealand because it's the Americans who want him, and they

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 2: want him on copyright infringement, money laundering, and wire fraud.

1689
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: This is not new if you followed the story, but

1690
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: it all began in twenty twelve when the United States

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01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: decided they might want a word with them now they

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: wanted a word with him. Our dumb luck was he

1693
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: just happened to lob into New Zealand, so we've got

1694
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: really no association with the case other than he decided

1695
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: we would be quite a good place to live. He

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: bought a big house north of Auckland these days in

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Speaker 2: central Otago, and the rest, as they say, is history.

1698
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: So it's not really a New Zealand story. But we

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: unfortunately got caught up on this. But what really the

1700
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: great learning out of all of this, given it started

1701
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, and according to his lawyer there's more

1702
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: weathers came from, is that there's something really wrong with

1703
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 2: our justice system. If something can start in twenty twelve

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01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: and thirteen years later still be going with more to come,

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01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: and how long that goes, I don't know. On something

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01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: as simple as a country wants a word with you,

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01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: please we need to extradite you, versus the client going,

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to go. If it takes thirteen years

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01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 2: and counting to just work through a matter as simple

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Speaker 2: as that, then there's really something So if for no

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Speaker 2: other reason, we've learned that our justice system has been

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Speaker 2: It was in Hong Kong, and he could have picked anywhere,

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Speaker 2: but he picked us. Sucked in good nine Away from nine.

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Speaker 2: So this morning, six fifty our time, Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 2: killed at Utah VLA University.

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Speaker 15: Oh my god, got.

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Speaker 2: Run a shot in the neck. Bloke. Shooter was apparently

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Speaker 2: in a building a couple of hundred yards away. The

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Speaker 2: person was four rows. This person was four rows from

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Speaker 2: Kirk when it happened.

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Speaker 18: I mean you were sent to the interview and four

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Speaker 18: people in front of us. We just but here's a gunshot,

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Speaker 18: and then you see trying to whimp. His neck kind

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Speaker 18: of turned and we fell blood immediately. Both of our

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Speaker 18: perspectives were that he was shot in the neck to

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Speaker 18: be perfectly want like Felix, so much blood came out

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Speaker 18: of his neck immediately, and then we all took to

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Speaker 18: the ground. And can't tell you as what happened immediately after.

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Speaker 2: Right one of the videos doing the rounds, White bowled

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Speaker 2: Mile in his sixties. Probably he's arrested. He's repeatedly saying

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Speaker 2: I had the right to remain silent. Fox were doing

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Speaker 2: live vox pops outside the campus. That's it was dangerous

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Speaker 2: because you can come across people like this.

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Speaker 8: I turner look and they were arresting a guy by

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Speaker 8: the name of George Zim. Yeah, I know the guy.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he did it. I think they arrested

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Speaker 8: the wrong guy. I think whoever did it was a

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Speaker 8: good shooter, a sharp shooter. It was runch shot right

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Speaker 8: directly to the heart. And we need to find out

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Speaker 8: who did this. Who could be there and pull that

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Speaker 8: trigger into it. And I don't think it was George

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Speaker 8: sim He was poor, broke he maybe was on medication,

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Speaker 8: a little bit looney boon, maybe a perfect person to

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Speaker 8: pick and say that, But I don't think he did

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Speaker 8: it at all.

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Speaker 2: I can't say they're not articulate, Utah said just twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes and the last twe you men saying stay off

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Speaker 2: campus because the suspect is not yet in custody. Police

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Speaker 2: are still investigating. Trump broke the news. He said, the

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Speaker 2: great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No one

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Speaker 2: understood or had the heart of the youth in the

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Speaker 2: United States of America better than Charlie, who was loved

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Speaker 2: and admired by all, especially me. And now he's no

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Speaker 2: longer with us. Millennia and my sympathies go out to

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Speaker 2: his beautiful wife, Erica and family. Charlie.

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 2: So that has been one the breaking news of the

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Speaker 2: morning and to yet again an insight into all that's

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Speaker 2: wrong with America. And so we will leave you with

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Speaker 2: that coverage throughout the day, obviously, and we'll be back

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Speaker 2: at six tomorrow morning. As always, Happy Days, person

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