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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Matton

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons pod for the fifteenth of November twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Hell of a show. A lot of talk about doc

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Speaker 2: and whether they should charge people or not to get

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Speaker 2: into doc parks. A lot of talk about that, and

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Speaker 2: then we went deep into printer chat and then we

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Speaker 2: had the New Zealand of the week, didn't we.

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Speaker 3: We did, and topical tunes as well. Some great songs

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Speaker 3: there and I think the right person won, just like man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And look we're accused of hitting light topics

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Speaker 2: when there were heavy topics around and to that, I say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what we do. It's what we do, and

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Speaker 3: we love it.

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Speaker 2: There'll be some light and there'll be some dark, So

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Speaker 2: enjoy the show and look, have a great weekend. And

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Speaker 2: you've seen busy. I let you go give my taste

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Speaker 2: KEEI from me.

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Speaker 4: All right, then you're new for insightful and enter teening Talk.

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Speaker 4: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon here, you know, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: show to do man apparently.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? We were just standing out over

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Speaker 2: the guest begging yeah, and then we notice we have

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Speaker 2: to rush over here and do a radio show.

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Speaker 3: I kind of forgot we're on radio now.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's Friday. But it's not a knockoff yet, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Only you have to run meet as an on puff

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Speaker 3: to mean. I'm gott to do some exercise.

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Speaker 2: I tell you you got three hours of quality and

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Speaker 2: insightful talk back to do before you can. You can

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Speaker 2: rest up.

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Speaker 3: One thing we are is we are professionals here. Don't

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Speaker 3: worry about that. Right onto the show after three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: because it is Friday. We've got topical tunes, where Matt

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Speaker 3: and I each peck a song related to a theme

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Speaker 3: of the week. You were the ragning champ Man.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I believe I'm at five to one. Yep, yes,

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Speaker 2: so eight hundred and eighty ten eighty bit if best

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Speaker 2: of three calls decides whose song is most topical and

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Speaker 2: the better tune. We've also got our weekly announcement of

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Speaker 2: the new Zealander of the week. Makes sense it would

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Speaker 2: be weekly. If it's New Zealand of the week, who

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Speaker 2: will it be? I mean, so many people putting up

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Speaker 2: their hands this week and doing amazing things. But who

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Speaker 2: will win?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to that after three o'clock, after two

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Speaker 3: o'clock this well, this is going to be a good discussion.

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Speaker 3: So Craig christ Strong name says he is angry after

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Speaker 3: Auckland Council declined his request to plant a tree on

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Speaker 3: a patch of what he calls Baron land. It was

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Speaker 3: his wife's last wish to have a native tree planted

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Speaker 3: in Point Whels. This is a rural settlement and Rodney,

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Speaker 3: the council's headers request not meet the criteria in their

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Speaker 3: memorial guidelines. It's something a council would say. I say,

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Speaker 3: let them plant the tree.

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Speaker 2: You say that, yeah, wow for you, you say that

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Speaker 2: you don't need mister rules, Tyler. I thought you'd be like, well,

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Speaker 2: if someone plants a tree there, then everyone plants a

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Speaker 2: tree on everything that happens in their lives. Suddenly we're

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. If he wanted to do Dowey's

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Speaker 3: But in this instance, I just think, where's the humanity.

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Speaker 3: I mean, does it really matter the council if he

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe he asked, I mean in terms

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Speaker 2: for I mean, just go and plant the tree. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean I've planted, as you know, Tyler, I've planted

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Speaker 3: I look forward to that day. Please let that day come.

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Speaker 3: That is after two o'clock though, because right now we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Conservation Minister Tama Putake says, and he says, we

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Speaker 2: This isn't just international visitors. This would be all New

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about that? If you were to

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they say, hey, where's your ticket?

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Speaker 2: I think rubbish. I own that park as a New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: That's mine, it's my get out. No, I'd say no,

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Speaker 2: But if a tourists came over here, I'd say, charge

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Speaker 3: A lot of people would agree with that. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I actually am okay with being charged to go into

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Speaker 3: I get the season passed. So I paid doc eighty

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Speaker 2: I agree with paying to stay in a hut, yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, And I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: saying is a bit weird if you're going to charge

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Speaker 2: just to be in a national park. So you're here

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Speaker 2: and you're on New Zealand Land, and then you walk

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Speaker 2: a little bit further and you're also in New Zealand Land,

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Speaker 2: but it's called a national park, so then you get

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Speaker 2: We already pay for them in our Texas, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the questions being asked is where should

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Speaker 3: second question? I like, we should those charges apply because

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Speaker 3: they already apply to the Great Walks, right And you

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Speaker 3: to charge the international tourists more. But to me, extend

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, No, I'm not for it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Nine two nine two is a

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Speaker 3: text number they are ripping in now. It is eleven

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Speaker 3: past one. You're listening to Matt and Tyler very very

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Speaker 3: good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: everything in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. You

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Speaker 4: for twenty twenty four US talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be good afternoon. Fourteen past one. So the Department

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Speaker 3: of Conservation or the Minister Tama Portaka has put out

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Speaker 3: a discussion document asking a range of questions. One of

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Speaker 3: they'll put in the document who should be charged? Should

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Speaker 3: Or should we or should charges apply? What types of

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Speaker 3: It's a big discussion. I say, I'm okay with a

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call Lydia very good afternoon to.

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Speaker 7: You, Jordan, Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 8: How are you?

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Speaker 3: We're good. So you, ah, well, you are very involved

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Speaker 3: in tourism, aren't you. You look after McKenzie tourism.

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Speaker 7: I'm a mckensey tourism manager and we obviously have the

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Speaker 7: quite a place of passion and probably reasonably well about

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what's what's your opinion on charging people to

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Look, we need to find a solution for this right. Tourism,

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Speaker 7: the funding of tourism needs a complete review and there

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Speaker 10: Be much more user place model because what we.

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Speaker 7: Are currently seeing in our country is unsustainable. You know,

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Speaker 7: I really feel for doc and I feel particularly for

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Speaker 7: But we serainly need to be trying new things and

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Speaker 7: I really it's encouraging to see the ministers, both the

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Speaker 2: LYDIA, how much would you think would be a reasonable

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Speaker 7: Totally, we probably just need to see some modeling first

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Speaker 7: it unaffordable for Kiwi's. We love Kiwi's exploring your backyard,

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Speaker 7: but we just need to source of revenue and it

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Speaker 2: What about the concept that we already pay for these

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Speaker 2: kind of odd to say to New Zealanders, you you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, that is one of the biggest struggles

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Speaker 7: point eight billion dollars in GST alone from and we

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Speaker 7: as conservation estates.

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Speaker 11: And the.

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Speaker 7: Reality is it goes into the big black hole of

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Speaker 7: it is encouraging for them to see, you know, to

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Speaker 2: Really in your area, what percentage is it Kiwi tourists

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Speaker 2: Yeah this Texas through nineteen nine two. It's hard enough

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Speaker 3: It's twenty one past one.

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Speaker 4: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: Last year there were eight hundred ninety two thousand visa applications, right,

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Speaker 14: What we're saying is the ONLYCD and other research organizations

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is twenty four past one.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a proposal from Conservation Minister Tama Portucker.

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Speaker 2: So I live in Wellington and the McKenzie District wants

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Speaker 2: so many areas that need need money. And a national

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Speaker 2: But I just say, look, international tourists, you don't pay

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Speaker 3: Is a number of goal patsionate Michael, how are you.

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Speaker 5: Yep, so we paid.

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Speaker 15: We paid the bus that picked us up from our motel,

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Speaker 15: If you want more experience, I wouldn't mind paying twenty

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Speaker 15: the bus companies, the ones who transport them there I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but you could take that to the

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Speaker 2: but you're you're a keen tramper. You're a keen tramper,

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Speaker 2: and you do pay for the great walks, right, Oh, you.

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Speaker 3: Definitely pay for the great walks. And I can only

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Speaker 2: Well, I bet that was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's fantastic. But when the warden, the local warden

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Speaker 3: He said, no, no, no, that's not right. You're in

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Speaker 3: And I was going to let don't worry about it's fine.

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Speaker 3: It's what was what was the difference about thirty bucks?

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Speaker 2: Walk yep, and then you paid for hearts as well.

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Speaker 3: That was not yes you did so we were tending,

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Speaker 3: But thank you you've helped me articulate my point a

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Speaker 3: So if that was the situation here, that if people

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to set up a toll at the

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440
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we are talking about

442
00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:36,453
Speaker 3: the potential of charging kiwisan international tourists for use of

443
00:21:36,653 --> 00:21:40,293
Speaker 3: national parks. I mean that's one of the options. Tama Portucker,

444
00:21:40,373 --> 00:21:42,653
Speaker 3: he is the Minister of Conservation at the moment, has

445
00:21:42,653 --> 00:21:45,413
Speaker 3: floated in a discussion document and I will say I

446
00:21:45,533 --> 00:21:48,213
Speaker 3: have floated the idea of national parks. The actual question

447
00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:51,293
Speaker 3: they have raised is if there are charges, where should

448
00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:52,253
Speaker 3: those charges apply it?

449
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:55,653
Speaker 2: But everything needs money and every and we keep adding

450
00:21:55,733 --> 00:21:58,293
Speaker 2: new charges to everything. But do charges ever go away?

451
00:21:58,293 --> 00:22:00,733
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever heard of it of someone going, oh,

452
00:22:00,773 --> 00:22:03,013
Speaker 2: we don't need some money in this year, so we're

453
00:22:03,053 --> 00:22:06,653
Speaker 2: moving the charges. There's just charges freaking everywhere.

454
00:22:06,733 --> 00:22:09,733
Speaker 3: I'm going to make a massive allegation here towards some

455
00:22:09,813 --> 00:22:13,493
Speaker 3: international tourists. So when you go to a dock hut yea,

456
00:22:13,893 --> 00:22:17,213
Speaker 3: you are meant to pay a hut fee and that

457
00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:19,413
Speaker 3: changed itself. It's a basic hut which has bugger all

458
00:22:19,413 --> 00:22:20,853
Speaker 3: in it. It's a bit run down. You pay five

459
00:22:20,893 --> 00:22:23,253
Speaker 3: bucks a night. If it's the standard hut, you pay

460
00:22:23,293 --> 00:22:26,413
Speaker 3: ten bucks. If it's the high level hut, you pay

461
00:22:26,493 --> 00:22:29,733
Speaker 3: I think fifteen. I would say most key we pay that.

462
00:22:29,893 --> 00:22:31,653
Speaker 3: If they go into a duck dock hut, they will

463
00:22:31,653 --> 00:22:35,693
Speaker 3: get their dock ticket and they'll pay that money. International tourists,

464
00:22:35,773 --> 00:22:39,613
Speaker 3: I don't think. No, I'm serious. The amount of times

465
00:22:39,613 --> 00:22:42,173
Speaker 3: have been in the dock hut and they claim ignorance

466
00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:43,733
Speaker 3: is we didn't know we had to pay.

467
00:22:43,813 --> 00:22:47,093
Speaker 2: Boo yeah, boo yeah. I think you should definitely pay

468
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,333
Speaker 2: if you stay in one of the huts. I'm not

469
00:22:48,373 --> 00:22:50,133
Speaker 2: talking about that. I'm just talking about going on to

470
00:22:50,173 --> 00:22:51,893
Speaker 2: a national park and when we've already paid for them

471
00:22:51,893 --> 00:22:54,213
Speaker 2: in their taxes and there's just everyone putting out the

472
00:22:54,253 --> 00:22:55,973
Speaker 2: hand saying I've got another charge for us, another charge

473
00:22:56,013 --> 00:22:56,813
Speaker 2: of that to make it work.

474
00:22:57,253 --> 00:22:58,333
Speaker 3: But where does it stop?

475
00:22:58,373 --> 00:22:59,093
Speaker 2: Where does it stop?

476
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Speaker 3: Jesse, what's your thoughts.

477
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Speaker 9: On this, fellas. I actually live on the border of

478
00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:06,453
Speaker 9: Tongodell In National Park.

479
00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:07,653
Speaker 3: Lucky Man, beautiful.

480
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Speaker 9: There's no way I'm going to be paying, right, that's

481
00:23:10,573 --> 00:23:11,013
Speaker 9: for sure.

482
00:23:11,333 --> 00:23:13,413
Speaker 3: But if you're on the border, you just don't, you know,

483
00:23:13,493 --> 00:23:14,573
Speaker 3: you just keep your feet on the.

484
00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:19,773
Speaker 9: Other side fence. Yeah, but no, in terms of using

485
00:23:19,813 --> 00:23:24,453
Speaker 9: the tracks, you know the sign marked maintained built tracks,

486
00:23:25,493 --> 00:23:27,853
Speaker 9: why not there should be some form of views of

487
00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:32,253
Speaker 9: pay to maintain it, and most definitely international tourists, like

488
00:23:32,493 --> 00:23:34,292
Speaker 9: I think that's it. Anywhere else in the world you go,

489
00:23:35,013 --> 00:23:39,413
Speaker 9: you pay a fee to access some natural land. Yeah yeah,

490
00:23:39,453 --> 00:23:42,493
Speaker 9: and even I think in Germany in some places beaches

491
00:23:42,533 --> 00:23:43,853
Speaker 9: you even have to pay to go to some of

492
00:23:43,893 --> 00:23:44,373
Speaker 9: the beaches.

493
00:23:44,693 --> 00:23:47,893
Speaker 2: So I'm charge the international tourists. Hey, what kind of

494
00:23:47,933 --> 00:23:49,693
Speaker 2: stuff do you do when you jump the fence into

495
00:23:49,693 --> 00:23:50,293
Speaker 2: the national path?

496
00:23:50,373 --> 00:23:51,733
Speaker 9: Well, that's the other thing. We do a lot of

497
00:23:51,773 --> 00:23:57,133
Speaker 9: conservation work with pets control where hunters fishing. Unfortunately in

498
00:23:57,173 --> 00:23:59,613
Speaker 9: some cases we end up cleaning up after some of

499
00:23:59,653 --> 00:24:00,813
Speaker 9: our international tourists.

500
00:24:01,173 --> 00:24:04,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, disgusting, and just on that, just on that, Jessey,

501
00:24:04,493 --> 00:24:06,173
Speaker 3: because I don't know one hundred percent that I think, well,

502
00:24:06,213 --> 00:24:08,773
Speaker 3: you're going to have a fishing license, So that goes back.

503
00:24:08,813 --> 00:24:10,693
Speaker 3: Some of that goes back to the deplotment of conservation.

504
00:24:10,893 --> 00:24:12,613
Speaker 3: The hunters do they have to pay for a permit.

505
00:24:13,693 --> 00:24:16,292
Speaker 9: No, they don't pay, but there is a permitting system.

506
00:24:17,093 --> 00:24:22,133
Speaker 9: But again maybe, Yeah, I've always toyed with the thought

507
00:24:22,173 --> 00:24:25,613
Speaker 9: that maybe paid hunting permit. It's hard for us because

508
00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:30,213
Speaker 9: all of our species are exotic species and class as

509
00:24:30,293 --> 00:24:32,693
Speaker 9: pests here. So yeah, it's a bit hard to charge

510
00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:34,693
Speaker 9: people to because.

511
00:24:34,453 --> 00:24:35,373
Speaker 2: You're actually helping out.

512
00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:36,973
Speaker 12: Yeah, but.

513
00:24:38,773 --> 00:24:40,893
Speaker 9: User pays man, especially when it comes to anything that

514
00:24:41,013 --> 00:24:42,693
Speaker 9: needs ongoing maintenance and upkey.

515
00:24:42,933 --> 00:24:44,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I agree with. If you're going

516
00:24:44,973 --> 00:24:47,013
Speaker 2: to be if you're walking a track, sure, yeah, but

517
00:24:47,093 --> 00:24:51,933
Speaker 2: it's been ridiculous to charge charge him to jump over

518
00:24:51,973 --> 00:24:54,893
Speaker 2: his fence. So that's what all I'm saying. I'm saying,

519
00:24:55,013 --> 00:24:56,773
Speaker 2: isn't the idea that you would charge to go on

520
00:24:56,853 --> 00:25:00,653
Speaker 2: to a national park at all, any way, shape or form,

521
00:25:00,773 --> 00:25:03,333
Speaker 2: even if you're walking on the hunting, fishing or whatever.

522
00:25:04,093 --> 00:25:06,453
Speaker 2: That seems crazy to me because it's all New Zealand, right. Yeah.

523
00:25:07,053 --> 00:25:09,573
Speaker 2: If you're walking the track, then sure, that's a totally

524
00:25:09,573 --> 00:25:11,893
Speaker 2: different thing because the track has to be built specifically

525
00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:14,733
Speaker 2: for it and the huts all that stuff. Charge that,

526
00:25:14,813 --> 00:25:18,533
Speaker 2: But I say charge the international tours up the wazoo.

527
00:25:18,933 --> 00:25:21,453
Speaker 2: We as a country needs to be an international just

528
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:24,893
Speaker 2: a fleecing system here that idea. You get them here

529
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:28,293
Speaker 2: and it's our job as New Zealand is to fleece

530
00:25:28,333 --> 00:25:29,893
Speaker 2: them for everything before they go away.

531
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Speaker 9: Jesse Y Mets for Department of Conservation Ministers.

532
00:25:37,013 --> 00:25:40,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, get them to the top operation fleece the tourists.

533
00:25:41,493 --> 00:25:43,133
Speaker 3: Tony, how are you mate.

534
00:25:43,973 --> 00:25:46,373
Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm just going to have a little take

535
00:25:46,453 --> 00:25:50,532
Speaker 5: map to shoot. As do you own, you still have

536
00:25:50,653 --> 00:25:54,173
Speaker 5: to pay for it. If you drive on the road,

537
00:25:54,293 --> 00:25:58,373
Speaker 5: you entrol tax. If you want to race your car,

538
00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:04,613
Speaker 5: you pay the race track. So tourists and Kiwi's possibly

539
00:26:04,733 --> 00:26:09,373
Speaker 5: should pay the same to use the facility.

540
00:26:10,053 --> 00:26:13,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if you're not using facilities. What I'm

541
00:26:13,333 --> 00:26:15,573
Speaker 2: saying is I'm taking a very pure and we don't

542
00:26:15,613 --> 00:26:18,813
Speaker 2: know if that this would ever this happen, but it's

543
00:26:18,933 --> 00:26:20,973
Speaker 2: very vague in what they're saying. But if you're a

544
00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:23,253
Speaker 2: family and you've driven down the roads and you've paid

545
00:26:23,293 --> 00:26:25,653
Speaker 2: your taxes and you've paid your registation on the roads,

546
00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:27,693
Speaker 2: and you pull off the road to just go and

547
00:26:27,733 --> 00:26:30,013
Speaker 2: have a little walk through the bush with your family,

548
00:26:30,453 --> 00:26:34,173
Speaker 2: you know, just a little a little look around that

549
00:26:34,213 --> 00:26:36,532
Speaker 2: would seem ridiculous to me that you'd pay for that.

550
00:26:36,613 --> 00:26:38,213
Speaker 2: I get if you're on the track because you're actually

551
00:26:38,333 --> 00:26:41,893
Speaker 2: using something to actually build something, but just having a

552
00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:45,413
Speaker 2: little nosy around some trees, you're going to charge people

553
00:26:45,413 --> 00:26:45,653
Speaker 2: for that?

554
00:26:47,493 --> 00:26:51,173
Speaker 5: Look at a ten minute walk, nos. But if you're

555
00:26:51,213 --> 00:26:54,893
Speaker 5: doing your two hour bush bash, yeah, pay for it.

556
00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:57,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't we want Keywis to be out doing

557
00:26:57,453 --> 00:27:00,933
Speaker 2: a two hour bush bash. Yeah, that's exactly what we

558
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:03,853
Speaker 2: want to do. If you're bashing bush, go for it.

559
00:27:04,253 --> 00:27:05,973
Speaker 2: If you if you're on the track and staying in

560
00:27:05,973 --> 00:27:09,013
Speaker 2: a heart, then then maybe pay. But what ever happens,

561
00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:11,893
Speaker 2: let's just make the international tourists pay a lot, because

562
00:27:11,893 --> 00:27:15,493
Speaker 2: whenever I'm overseas, I seem to get fleeced completely everywhere

563
00:27:15,493 --> 00:27:18,173
Speaker 2: I go. You go here and there's an international fee

564
00:27:18,213 --> 00:27:19,893
Speaker 2: and you pay it and you don't care because you're

565
00:27:19,893 --> 00:27:22,013
Speaker 2: a tourist and these those are the rules of where

566
00:27:22,013 --> 00:27:22,613
Speaker 2: you have gone.

567
00:27:23,813 --> 00:27:26,573
Speaker 5: Well, no, if you've been overseas, how many times have

568
00:27:26,653 --> 00:27:28,253
Speaker 5: you not done something because of.

569
00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:31,293
Speaker 2: The cost, Well, every time I go overseas?

570
00:27:32,253 --> 00:27:34,573
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but the local.

571
00:27:36,293 --> 00:27:39,213
Speaker 2: But sorry, so you go, sorry, Tony, you go?

572
00:27:40,373 --> 00:27:45,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, So after local paces, tame amount it's there. So

573
00:27:45,213 --> 00:27:48,253
Speaker 5: if you want to go to the Tom Lorrero, but well,

574
00:27:48,973 --> 00:27:50,933
Speaker 5: if you want to go into the White Jack res

575
00:27:51,053 --> 00:27:54,893
Speaker 5: the Cowdy Woman, Yeah, that's five back.

576
00:27:56,853 --> 00:27:58,853
Speaker 3: The more I think about it, Tony though, and and

577
00:27:59,133 --> 00:28:02,933
Speaker 3: just I'm kind of coming in the middle here that

578
00:28:03,973 --> 00:28:06,293
Speaker 3: and this is what annoys me that I think people

579
00:28:06,373 --> 00:28:07,853
Speaker 3: like you who get into the bush, and people like

580
00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:09,533
Speaker 3: me you get a to the bush, we pay because

581
00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:11,253
Speaker 3: we know that's the right thing to do. We care

582
00:28:11,293 --> 00:28:13,733
Speaker 3: about where we're walking, and that's something we love to do,

583
00:28:13,813 --> 00:28:15,493
Speaker 3: so we're happy to pay for that because it goes

584
00:28:15,493 --> 00:28:19,733
Speaker 3: back to that activity. The tourists don't have that same mentality.

585
00:28:19,813 --> 00:28:22,493
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm right behind, as Matt says, fleecing

586
00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:25,893
Speaker 3: the tourists. But maybe if you ask someone that uses

587
00:28:26,013 --> 00:28:28,813
Speaker 3: those those areas, you're going to pay anyway. So it's

588
00:28:28,813 --> 00:28:31,613
Speaker 3: not a compulsory system, but it's it's heavily implied that

589
00:28:31,653 --> 00:28:32,573
Speaker 3: it's the right thing to do.

590
00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,173
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot. If you go to the museum, you

591
00:28:36,253 --> 00:28:39,733
Speaker 5: mean to pay, unless you're a rate payer, but even

592
00:28:39,773 --> 00:28:44,413
Speaker 5: then the rates should put a dollar coin in. Yeah,

593
00:28:44,813 --> 00:28:48,533
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it should be a fair thing

594
00:28:48,573 --> 00:28:51,253
Speaker 5: where local pays the same as a turtle.

595
00:28:52,053 --> 00:28:54,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but locals are already contributing with their tax

596
00:28:54,973 --> 00:28:58,213
Speaker 2: dollars before they before anything happens. An international tourist hasn't

597
00:28:58,213 --> 00:29:02,293
Speaker 2: contributed anything. So surely you should get at least a

598
00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:04,813
Speaker 2: discount because a certain amount of your money's gone to

599
00:29:04,813 --> 00:29:07,213
Speaker 2: dock already if.

600
00:29:06,973 --> 00:29:11,173
Speaker 5: You pay the tag and your tax money. As you say,

601
00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:17,133
Speaker 5: is that not only your area, So if you're from Wellington,

602
00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:21,133
Speaker 5: then coming to Auckland, surely you should pay because it's

603
00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:21,973
Speaker 5: not your area.

604
00:29:22,253 --> 00:29:27,013
Speaker 2: Well well doc DOC is as a central government agency.

605
00:29:26,893 --> 00:29:27,053
Speaker 5: But.

606
00:29:29,493 --> 00:29:32,333
Speaker 2: You could also the Walentonians, as some textas said before

607
00:29:32,453 --> 00:29:35,733
Speaker 2: on nine two nine two, could start charging people for

608
00:29:35,813 --> 00:29:38,413
Speaker 2: coming to Wellington. I wouldn't go, So they go, you're

609
00:29:38,413 --> 00:29:40,693
Speaker 2: from Auckland. You played rates in Auckland. You don't play

610
00:29:40,773 --> 00:29:44,813
Speaker 2: rates in Wellington. I just want to I'd buys. So

611
00:29:44,893 --> 00:29:46,933
Speaker 2: you have to pay twenty bucks a night to hang

612
00:29:46,973 --> 00:29:49,653
Speaker 2: out in Wellington. It's kind of the same. It could

613
00:29:49,693 --> 00:29:51,093
Speaker 2: go anywhere, and you could get to the point where

614
00:29:51,093 --> 00:29:53,173
Speaker 2: you're charging people to go to the beach as well.

615
00:29:53,253 --> 00:29:55,653
Speaker 2: So there are reasons. There's upkeep on the beach, there's

616
00:29:55,693 --> 00:30:00,093
Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of you know, restoration, of sand

617
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:02,253
Speaker 2: dunes and such, So maybe you could, maybe you could

618
00:30:02,293 --> 00:30:03,533
Speaker 2: charge people go to the beach as well, if you're

619
00:30:03,533 --> 00:30:07,213
Speaker 2: going to get into charging people for going tonal natural

620
00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:08,133
Speaker 2: country assets.

621
00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:11,453
Speaker 3: Depends on what beach. What beach are we talking about here? Kai, Terry,

622
00:30:11,493 --> 00:30:16,333
Speaker 3: Terry again, I just wouldn't pay. I wouldn't pay to

623
00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:18,413
Speaker 3: go to the beach. There's plenty of coastline in New Zealand.

624
00:30:18,613 --> 00:30:19,253
Speaker 3: Eight hundreds.

625
00:30:19,293 --> 00:30:22,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of special to get there.

626
00:30:21,973 --> 00:30:23,453
Speaker 3: And they charge me five bucks to do that. Oh,

627
00:30:23,493 --> 00:30:25,493
Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number of call.

628
00:30:25,773 --> 00:30:28,053
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is a text number back in it

629
00:30:28,173 --> 00:30:29,173
Speaker 3: is eighteen to two.

630
00:30:30,813 --> 00:30:33,693
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty

631
00:30:34,253 --> 00:30:38,733
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four youth Talks, say'd.

632
00:30:38,613 --> 00:30:43,413
Speaker 3: Be Mark, good afternoon. You think visitors already pay through levies?

633
00:30:44,773 --> 00:30:44,973
Speaker 17: I do.

634
00:30:45,213 --> 00:30:48,573
Speaker 8: Look, I just want you to have an informed position

635
00:30:48,693 --> 00:30:51,813
Speaker 8: before you make any further comments and continue to dish

636
00:30:51,853 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 8: out on these valuable international tourists that we we're hosting.

637
00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:56,533
Speaker 2: Charge the more.

638
00:30:56,613 --> 00:30:57,933
Speaker 3: No carry on already well.

639
00:30:57,813 --> 00:30:59,213
Speaker 8: Already do no, we already do.

640
00:30:59,293 --> 00:30:59,453
Speaker 17: Yeah.

641
00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:01,613
Speaker 8: I think that's important that you guys understand.

642
00:31:01,733 --> 00:31:04,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. We were aware that we charge them.

643
00:31:04,053 --> 00:31:07,813
Speaker 2: We understand that we're about where do we charge them

644
00:31:08,093 --> 00:31:11,333
Speaker 2: chide and when they arrive in the country eight hundred dollars,

645
00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:13,693
Speaker 2: Yeah we should and that's fine and then we should.

646
00:31:14,093 --> 00:31:15,293
Speaker 2: But we don't know where they're going to go when

647
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:17,573
Speaker 2: they come into the country. So I'm just saying charge

648
00:31:17,613 --> 00:31:22,253
Speaker 2: them when they go to the parks, charge them again, Well, they.

649
00:31:22,173 --> 00:31:25,053
Speaker 8: Do if they do any not not similar to New

650
00:31:25,173 --> 00:31:27,053
Speaker 8: Zealanders when they go into the parks, so they take

651
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:30,773
Speaker 8: any by a triple commercial operation, they pay Quitt quite

652
00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:32,453
Speaker 8: a lot of money and that does go back to

653
00:31:32,533 --> 00:31:34,733
Speaker 8: dock in quite a you know. So they go skin

654
00:31:34,813 --> 00:31:37,653
Speaker 8: on current peak or a triple cone, what kind peak

655
00:31:38,053 --> 00:31:39,933
Speaker 8: money goes there? They go on a boat of Milford,

656
00:31:39,973 --> 00:31:42,413
Speaker 8: they pay there. If they land on the helicopter on

657
00:31:42,453 --> 00:31:43,573
Speaker 8: the way, there's twenty eight dollars.

658
00:31:43,613 --> 00:31:44,573
Speaker 9: They have holly.

659
00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:47,733
Speaker 8: Skinning fifty dollars a year. So you know, we've got

660
00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:51,373
Speaker 8: to take this into consideration. There's a couple of things.

661
00:31:51,373 --> 00:31:54,293
Speaker 8: There's also to spillover from visitors to New Zealand. You know,

662
00:31:54,533 --> 00:31:58,373
Speaker 8: GST going to the coffee shop buying petrol and they

663
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:00,773
Speaker 8: just help to get it as our biggest export owner.

664
00:32:01,373 --> 00:32:03,053
Speaker 8: So if you want to shut the gate, so we'll

665
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:07,653
Speaker 8: make it, make New Zealand uncompetitive on the world stage

666
00:32:07,773 --> 00:32:09,653
Speaker 8: and so visitors stop coming.

667
00:32:09,733 --> 00:32:12,173
Speaker 2: Well, you could argue we're already uncompetitive on the world

668
00:32:12,253 --> 00:32:14,893
Speaker 2: stage because we're so far away. But all I'm saying

669
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:18,373
Speaker 2: is in my experience when I go overseas, and I'm

670
00:32:18,413 --> 00:32:22,733
Speaker 2: always charged more as an international guest. An international tourist

671
00:32:22,773 --> 00:32:27,693
Speaker 2: into a country happens at the parks in America. So

672
00:32:28,733 --> 00:32:31,493
Speaker 2: I don't see what the problem is. New Zealanders already

673
00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:34,173
Speaker 2: pay tax that goes to DOC and goes to the

674
00:32:34,253 --> 00:32:37,813
Speaker 2: national parks upkeep, So we've already paid some So personally,

675
00:32:37,853 --> 00:32:39,853
Speaker 2: I don't think we should pay anything New Zealanders, but

676
00:32:39,893 --> 00:32:42,893
Speaker 2: we should definitely pay less than the international tourists who

677
00:32:42,893 --> 00:32:46,693
Speaker 2: haven't contributed anywhere near as much as we have over

678
00:32:46,693 --> 00:32:49,933
Speaker 2: the years, or as we do yearly in our tax.

679
00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:53,573
Speaker 8: Yeah, so if you host somebody to your house on

680
00:32:53,613 --> 00:32:55,693
Speaker 8: the weekend, you do charge them with the door to

681
00:32:55,693 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 8: get across the threshold. Look, we're hosting these people. Look

682
00:32:59,573 --> 00:33:02,293
Speaker 8: I don't disagree. No, just give me a chance. I

683
00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:05,173
Speaker 8: don't disagree. So if you go worldwide and look at

684
00:33:05,653 --> 00:33:08,653
Speaker 8: the various national parks, look at America. Americans to pay

685
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:11,533
Speaker 8: your combined annual pass eighty dollars and you can go

686
00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:13,093
Speaker 8: to any of the parts or you go to some

687
00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:16,173
Speaker 8: of them. So all I'm saying to you is, let's

688
00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:19,733
Speaker 8: take an informed position on this, take a balance view,

689
00:33:20,373 --> 00:33:24,653
Speaker 8: and not make it so restrictive to as you get

690
00:33:24,653 --> 00:33:26,053
Speaker 8: people to come in and enjoy.

691
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:29,173
Speaker 2: What's not balance? What's not balanced about the view that

692
00:33:29,213 --> 00:33:32,093
Speaker 2: we should charge international tourists if we're going to charge

693
00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:33,853
Speaker 2: people to go to national parks, if we're going to

694
00:33:33,933 --> 00:33:36,693
Speaker 2: charge everyone to go to national parks. What's not balanced

695
00:33:36,733 --> 00:33:38,813
Speaker 2: about saying we should charge tourists more.

696
00:33:39,973 --> 00:33:41,853
Speaker 8: Well, well, we just did, didn't We just shifted the

697
00:33:41,893 --> 00:33:44,853
Speaker 8: international visitor levy from thirty five dollars to one hundred

698
00:33:45,093 --> 00:33:47,013
Speaker 8: for them to step across, you know, to get out

699
00:33:47,053 --> 00:33:49,773
Speaker 8: of the airport, and and that money that was tag

700
00:33:50,253 --> 00:33:53,613
Speaker 8: back to conservation. Then every time they pay on any

701
00:33:53,613 --> 00:33:56,613
Speaker 8: of those trips, we have a new Zealander or international visitor.

702
00:33:56,853 --> 00:33:58,853
Speaker 8: So there's two things here is where do we colleck

703
00:33:58,893 --> 00:34:01,013
Speaker 8: the money? Number one, do you do it out of

704
00:34:01,093 --> 00:34:03,573
Speaker 8: border or do your national pass? And then how is

705
00:34:03,613 --> 00:34:07,093
Speaker 8: it spent, and that's a key one. So a lot

706
00:34:07,133 --> 00:34:11,692
Speaker 8: of that those fees going into consolidate the fund and

707
00:34:11,733 --> 00:34:13,613
Speaker 8: how is it actually spread out? And I suppose that's

708
00:34:13,613 --> 00:34:16,573
Speaker 8: an argument today on this and your channel is how

709
00:34:16,613 --> 00:34:19,773
Speaker 8: do you then apply those funds? So my argument is,

710
00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:22,692
Speaker 8: let's just be careful how we click those funds, let's

711
00:34:22,693 --> 00:34:26,013
Speaker 8: do it in a smart manner. And then further to that,

712
00:34:26,493 --> 00:34:28,733
Speaker 8: how do we then apply that and where does that

713
00:34:28,773 --> 00:34:29,333
Speaker 8: money go to?

714
00:34:29,653 --> 00:34:29,813
Speaker 2: Well?

715
00:34:29,813 --> 00:34:31,973
Speaker 3: Mark, I know who you are. You've spent a long

716
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:34,813
Speaker 3: time in tourism and you've been very successful in the

717
00:34:34,853 --> 00:34:37,333
Speaker 3: tourism space. But is it genuine when people because this

718
00:34:37,413 --> 00:34:40,573
Speaker 3: argument keeps popping up that if we charge the international

719
00:34:40,613 --> 00:34:42,893
Speaker 3: tourists too much, they just won't come here. I just

720
00:34:42,933 --> 00:34:45,293
Speaker 3: don't buy that. I mean, clearly there is a level,

721
00:34:45,373 --> 00:34:47,853
Speaker 3: but what we're talking about here, to me, I just

722
00:34:47,933 --> 00:34:48,493
Speaker 3: don't see that.

723
00:34:49,973 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 8: Okay, No, I don't disagree. But if we charge too

724
00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:55,653
Speaker 8: much and they stop coming here, then with a major problem.

725
00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:58,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what I would say, the only reason why

726
00:34:58,493 --> 00:35:00,253
Speaker 2: we want them here is to charge them and as

727
00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:02,453
Speaker 2: much as we possibly can, right up to the limits.

728
00:35:02,493 --> 00:35:05,253
Speaker 2: So as a country, we should be looking at charging

729
00:35:06,173 --> 00:35:09,733
Speaker 2: tourists right to the very limit they can bear to

730
00:35:09,773 --> 00:35:11,573
Speaker 2: come here, because that's what we have them here. If

731
00:35:11,573 --> 00:35:15,172
Speaker 2: we're treating it as a export earning, which it is

732
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:17,773
Speaker 2: when they come here, then that's what we should do.

733
00:35:17,813 --> 00:35:20,692
Speaker 2: What that limit is, I'm not sure. But when they

734
00:35:20,733 --> 00:35:22,733
Speaker 2: go to a park. You can come into this country

735
00:35:22,853 --> 00:35:26,093
Speaker 2: and you don't go to a park and you don't pay,

736
00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:27,652
Speaker 2: But if you want to go to the park, you pay,

737
00:35:27,693 --> 00:35:28,933
Speaker 2: and you pay more than keywis.

738
00:35:29,893 --> 00:35:32,172
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's a circular argument. So what we've got

739
00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:34,333
Speaker 8: a problem at the moment. Are we providing a good

740
00:35:34,373 --> 00:35:37,692
Speaker 8: experience and good facilities everywhere? And you know, I'm sure

741
00:35:37,773 --> 00:35:40,652
Speaker 8: most most in the national visitors or most visitors are

742
00:35:40,653 --> 00:35:43,293
Speaker 8: happy to pay, but as long as they get in

743
00:35:43,293 --> 00:35:45,853
Speaker 8: the quality experience in generally they are. But some of

744
00:35:45,853 --> 00:35:49,093
Speaker 8: our facilities are not up to standard. And that's one

745
00:35:49,093 --> 00:35:51,253
Speaker 8: of the problems we got there. So I think we're

746
00:35:51,293 --> 00:35:53,613
Speaker 8: probably both agreeing on the one thing.

747
00:35:54,693 --> 00:35:56,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thinks you call Mark?

748
00:35:56,173 --> 00:35:58,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good to chat. Oh one hundred and eighty

749
00:35:58,813 --> 00:36:01,093
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is tend

750
00:36:01,133 --> 00:36:01,253
Speaker 3: to do.

751
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:07,453
Speaker 11: Maddie Tyler Adams seeking your calls.

752
00:36:07,693 --> 00:36:12,413
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred Tyler Adams afternoons news.

753
00:36:13,013 --> 00:36:13,893
Speaker 3: It is seven to two.

754
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:16,013
Speaker 2: So Tyler, how much do you think they have to

755
00:36:16,053 --> 00:36:19,933
Speaker 2: pay to go to Yossi MC National Park and Yosi MC?

756
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:20,212
Speaker 5: Yeah?

757
00:36:20,253 --> 00:36:21,733
Speaker 2: Yo might yes, Yo might?

758
00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:21,933
Speaker 5: Yes?

759
00:36:22,173 --> 00:36:22,533
Speaker 17: M yeah?

760
00:36:22,573 --> 00:36:22,733
Speaker 5: Is that?

761
00:36:23,013 --> 00:36:23,252
Speaker 2: Yeah?

762
00:36:23,293 --> 00:36:23,653
Speaker 3: Where's that?

763
00:36:23,813 --> 00:36:24,053
Speaker 9: Is that?

764
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:24,853
Speaker 2: Yo MC?

765
00:36:25,093 --> 00:36:25,732
Speaker 3: Is that in your I?

766
00:36:25,813 --> 00:36:28,373
Speaker 2: O S E M I T E yos might National pank?

767
00:36:28,413 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 11: Oh?

768
00:36:28,573 --> 00:36:31,813
Speaker 3: Is that how the that's how the local yost It

769
00:36:31,853 --> 00:36:32,692
Speaker 3: sounds like a nice pluck.

770
00:36:32,813 --> 00:36:33,893
Speaker 2: How much do you think you have to pay for?

771
00:36:34,493 --> 00:36:39,333
Speaker 3: And I think about what fifty bucks UIs or euro.

772
00:36:39,773 --> 00:36:43,893
Speaker 2: It's thirty five dollars thirty five thirty five dollars and

773
00:36:43,893 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 2: it's just a step foot yeah, yeah, all right, roll Bruce,

774
00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:49,173
Speaker 2: you've recently been to the US.

775
00:36:50,293 --> 00:36:53,573
Speaker 18: Yes, we were there three or four years ago and

776
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:55,733
Speaker 18: we were driving around in the middle of nowhere. I

777
00:36:55,773 --> 00:36:58,973
Speaker 18: can't actually remember which national park it was. It might

778
00:36:59,013 --> 00:37:00,893
Speaker 18: have been death fairly. I don't know whether that's a

779
00:37:00,973 --> 00:37:04,893
Speaker 18: national park or not. And like it was the middle

780
00:37:04,893 --> 00:37:06,333
Speaker 18: of now were all of a sudden, we're driving long

781
00:37:06,373 --> 00:37:08,093
Speaker 18: I was a few years is here we get up

782
00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:09,773
Speaker 18: a bit closer. There's a hut on the side of

783
00:37:09,773 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 18: the road with a barrier across he said fifty dollars

784
00:37:12,813 --> 00:37:14,973
Speaker 18: to drive through this park thancake. So we gave him

785
00:37:14,973 --> 00:37:16,133
Speaker 18: fifty dollars and carried on.

786
00:37:16,413 --> 00:37:17,253
Speaker 3: Did he look legit?

787
00:37:18,533 --> 00:37:21,293
Speaker 18: Yeah, oh yeah it was legit. Yeah, no doubt about that.

788
00:37:21,733 --> 00:37:24,253
Speaker 18: He was in the uniform and everything, you know. Yeah,

789
00:37:24,413 --> 00:37:29,053
Speaker 18: so I don't know he was the local guard or whatever,

790
00:37:29,253 --> 00:37:30,893
Speaker 18: ranger or whatever you call them.

791
00:37:30,973 --> 00:37:34,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't remember. You're okay with that for

792
00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:35,013
Speaker 3: Death Valley? Paying?

793
00:37:35,933 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 19: Yeah?

794
00:37:36,173 --> 00:37:39,413
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it was Death Valley and yeah, no, no,

795
00:37:39,413 --> 00:37:39,973
Speaker 18: no problem.

796
00:37:40,053 --> 00:37:40,493
Speaker 5: We got out.

797
00:37:40,493 --> 00:37:43,613
Speaker 18: We looked all around death Elliott was great.

798
00:37:43,973 --> 00:37:46,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you don't. You don't mind paying. If

799
00:37:46,773 --> 00:37:49,293
Speaker 2: you're an international tourist in someone else's country, you're aware

800
00:37:49,293 --> 00:37:52,253
Speaker 2: in your mind that you are a visitor, and you

801
00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:55,172
Speaker 2: do you just pay pay what you pay. Yeah, I'm

802
00:37:55,213 --> 00:37:57,773
Speaker 2: so annoyed. I said, you'll see might And I said to.

803
00:37:57,733 --> 00:37:59,973
Speaker 3: Tyler, so exactly what you were doing?

804
00:38:00,093 --> 00:38:04,133
Speaker 2: I said, If I said that, I'd get hundreds of

805
00:38:04,173 --> 00:38:05,373
Speaker 2: texts people correcting me.

806
00:38:05,453 --> 00:38:08,093
Speaker 3: But they hey, they're coming through, are they you helmets?

807
00:38:10,653 --> 00:38:11,533
Speaker 3: It's Yosemite?

808
00:38:13,973 --> 00:38:18,293
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? I didn't know. Amazing, Oh one.

809
00:38:18,133 --> 00:38:21,732
Speaker 3: Hundred and eighty ten eighty here they come through now good.

810
00:38:21,773 --> 00:38:26,693
Speaker 3: You guys know exactly what nine two is the ticks number.

811
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:32,133
Speaker 2: We're going to carry juvenile from me from me? We

812
00:38:32,253 --> 00:38:34,893
Speaker 2: got I know it. Darcy water Graves just come out.

813
00:38:35,373 --> 00:38:38,533
Speaker 3: He's furious you've upset everybody. Actually, they're all coming through

814
00:38:38,573 --> 00:38:41,493
Speaker 3: now right. We've got time for Scott's gott. We've got

815
00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:47,013
Speaker 3: a minute before the news get a Scott are you yeah? Good?

816
00:38:47,093 --> 00:38:51,533
Speaker 20: K No, not at all. We already paid our taxes.

817
00:38:52,053 --> 00:38:55,453
Speaker 20: We already charged a bizinessor levy for international businesses coming here.

818
00:38:56,093 --> 00:38:59,733
Speaker 20: But also Trump played past National Park a couple of

819
00:38:59,813 --> 00:39:03,853
Speaker 20: years ago. Doc no longer maintained that track, So why

820
00:39:03,853 --> 00:39:06,413
Speaker 20: am I paying to went through park? The doc don't.

821
00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:08,933
Speaker 3: Maintain good points?

822
00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:11,493
Speaker 20: Has it been made years? Because it doesn't get the traffic.

823
00:39:12,053 --> 00:39:14,333
Speaker 2: So do you also not think we should charge international

824
00:39:14,493 --> 00:39:15,292
Speaker 2: tourists as well?

825
00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:21,253
Speaker 20: Well, we already do charge international tourists and visitor levy

826
00:39:21,293 --> 00:39:24,493
Speaker 20: to come here. I'm happy to charge them more, but

827
00:39:24,533 --> 00:39:28,732
Speaker 20: again it becomes that fine line of charge too much, well,

828
00:39:28,773 --> 00:39:32,733
Speaker 20: then go somewhere else. But also just to throw a

829
00:39:32,773 --> 00:39:36,093
Speaker 20: cat among the pigeons, our own New Zealander is going

830
00:39:36,173 --> 00:39:38,693
Speaker 20: to pay or are a certain percentage is going to

831
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:41,813
Speaker 20: claim customary rights and therefore be exempt from paying.

832
00:39:42,653 --> 00:39:43,893
Speaker 2: Well there's been no details on that.

833
00:39:44,093 --> 00:39:47,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but thank you very much, Scott.

834
00:39:47,893 --> 00:39:52,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my point being around the levy. They

835
00:39:52,773 --> 00:39:54,732
Speaker 2: might not go to the National Park, so different lev

836
00:39:54,813 --> 00:39:55,772
Speaker 2: there for international tours.

837
00:39:55,813 --> 00:39:57,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to pick this up after the news.

838
00:39:57,413 --> 00:39:59,373
Speaker 3: Oh under and eighty eighteen eighty is the number of

839
00:39:59,413 --> 00:40:02,333
Speaker 3: COO nine two ninety two is the takes number News

840
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:06,013
Speaker 3: Sporting Weather or on its way.

841
00:40:05,573 --> 00:40:07,333
Speaker 11: Talking with you all afternoon.

842
00:40:07,533 --> 00:40:11,373
Speaker 1: It's met he Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

843
00:40:11,413 --> 00:40:12,973
Speaker 1: four News Talk zib.

844
00:40:13,533 --> 00:40:17,613
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, seven past to welcome back into the show. Friday.

845
00:40:17,853 --> 00:40:20,053
Speaker 3: You should be feeling good on a Friday. Life's too

846
00:40:20,093 --> 00:40:22,173
Speaker 3: short to be grumpy and upset on a Friday.

847
00:40:22,973 --> 00:40:27,093
Speaker 2: Yesterday I went to RNZAF Base aid or HOCKEYA and

848
00:40:27,653 --> 00:40:30,413
Speaker 2: I flew out of Wellington down there in one of

849
00:40:30,453 --> 00:40:33,853
Speaker 2: the yeah, one of the king years, and we did

850
00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:37,373
Speaker 2: a what it was called a buzz and break anyway,

851
00:40:37,453 --> 00:40:40,933
Speaker 2: let's not go into those details. Was fantastic and met

852
00:40:41,133 --> 00:40:43,853
Speaker 2: a lot of their people down there, service people down there,

853
00:40:43,933 --> 00:40:48,493
Speaker 2: the pilots, the support, star fuel people, maintenance people and

854
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:52,933
Speaker 2: they are just the best New Zealanders in the RNZAF.

855
00:40:53,053 --> 00:40:56,133
Speaker 2: They are incredible people and what they do is phenomenal.

856
00:40:57,613 --> 00:40:59,853
Speaker 2: Got to write in some simulators. I did a bit

857
00:40:59,853 --> 00:41:02,253
Speaker 2: of a I did a keynote addressed and then I

858
00:41:02,253 --> 00:41:04,333
Speaker 2: went along to a formal dinner as well, yep, and

859
00:41:04,573 --> 00:41:07,653
Speaker 2: had the best time. And the things they do a

860
00:41:07,693 --> 00:41:10,973
Speaker 2: phenomenal for our country, you know, search and rescue and

861
00:41:11,733 --> 00:41:14,973
Speaker 2: you know transporting around the important people and all the

862
00:41:15,013 --> 00:41:16,973
Speaker 2: things they do that is so much stuff and they're

863
00:41:17,053 --> 00:41:20,053
Speaker 2: just the absolute best of us. Beautiful and beautifully So

864
00:41:20,093 --> 00:41:22,813
Speaker 2: I hadn't been born so dumb. I would have loved

865
00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:23,533
Speaker 2: to have been a pilot.

866
00:41:23,613 --> 00:41:23,773
Speaker 17: Yeah.

867
00:41:23,853 --> 00:41:25,933
Speaker 3: Good keep and we should be proud of our military

868
00:41:25,973 --> 00:41:28,293
Speaker 3: and the Air Force. Absolutely right. We have been talking

869
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:31,772
Speaker 3: about potentially charging New Zealanders to use places like national

870
00:41:31,853 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 3: parks as part of a discussion document that the Department

871
00:41:34,373 --> 00:41:36,893
Speaker 3: of Conservation has put into the ether. They want to

872
00:41:36,933 --> 00:41:39,573
Speaker 3: hear from us about whether this is a good idea.

873
00:41:39,973 --> 00:41:43,413
Speaker 3: And one of the questions they ask is around potentially

874
00:41:43,493 --> 00:41:46,013
Speaker 3: charging tourists an international tourists, And I'll just read out

875
00:41:46,013 --> 00:41:48,933
Speaker 3: these key questions. Who should be charged? Should fees apply

876
00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:51,813
Speaker 3: only to international visitors or also to Kiwi tourists. Where

877
00:41:51,813 --> 00:41:55,253
Speaker 3: should those charges apply, what types of locations are suitable

878
00:41:55,293 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 3: for such vis and how should that revenue be used.

879
00:41:58,493 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 3: Plenty of feedback coming through on the text machine. Nine

880
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:03,773
Speaker 3: two nine tours that number, and we'd love to have

881
00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:05,212
Speaker 3: a check with you on this one oh eight hundred

882
00:42:05,293 --> 00:42:06,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

883
00:42:06,413 --> 00:42:09,453
Speaker 2: My vi honor has charged the internet national tourists and

884
00:42:09,573 --> 00:42:12,053
Speaker 2: don't charge kiweks because we already pay our taxes for it.

885
00:42:12,253 --> 00:42:15,093
Speaker 2: But this TEXTI here says guys, I pay my taxes

886
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:17,652
Speaker 2: and don't go to national parks. So why so for

887
00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:20,333
Speaker 2: thousands like me, I'm not getting anything out of it? Well,

888
00:42:20,813 --> 00:42:23,413
Speaker 2: I think you are knowing that your country's got beautiful

889
00:42:23,493 --> 00:42:26,653
Speaker 2: natural parks. I mean I think I think spiritually you

890
00:42:26,733 --> 00:42:27,893
Speaker 2: might be getting something out of it.

891
00:42:28,053 --> 00:42:30,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just just to the point of what the

892
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:33,813
Speaker 3: caller last hour who said that the tracks weren't up

893
00:42:33,933 --> 00:42:35,933
Speaker 3: kept and they are a bit run down, I mean,

894
00:42:35,933 --> 00:42:38,333
Speaker 3: that's the whole point about charging people. That the money

895
00:42:38,413 --> 00:42:40,373
Speaker 3: is ring fenced to go back into those tracks.

896
00:42:40,653 --> 00:42:42,933
Speaker 2: How pristine does it have to be? You don't need

897
00:42:43,333 --> 00:42:45,772
Speaker 2: the red carpet rolled out as you walk up the track.

898
00:42:46,213 --> 00:42:47,133
Speaker 2: It's got to be a bit.

899
00:42:47,453 --> 00:42:50,173
Speaker 3: I refuse to walk those tracks. They're boring. I want rugged,

900
00:42:50,213 --> 00:42:51,413
Speaker 3: I want to buschbasher.

901
00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:53,253
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's got to be a little bit challenging

902
00:42:53,293 --> 00:42:53,933
Speaker 2: or what's the point?

903
00:42:54,053 --> 00:42:56,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl, what do you feel about this?

904
00:42:57,813 --> 00:42:58,693
Speaker 21: Absolus?

905
00:43:00,893 --> 00:43:01,413
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

906
00:43:01,533 --> 00:43:02,013
Speaker 2: Yeah? Gotcha?

907
00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:02,293
Speaker 22: Yeah?

908
00:43:02,733 --> 00:43:02,933
Speaker 2: Clear?

909
00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:05,013
Speaker 3: Key, keen on your thoughts. Is it a wise move

910
00:43:05,133 --> 00:43:06,133
Speaker 3: to look at charges?

911
00:43:06,853 --> 00:43:07,053
Speaker 5: Well?

912
00:43:07,093 --> 00:43:10,453
Speaker 21: Look at the reality is in New Zealand the tourism

913
00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:13,133
Speaker 21: industry really highlights the problem that we have here, and

914
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:14,812
Speaker 21: that's we don't have enough people to pay our rates

915
00:43:14,813 --> 00:43:19,172
Speaker 21: to pay for infrastructure and tourism, especially tourism areas high

916
00:43:19,173 --> 00:43:23,732
Speaker 21: density areas are really struggling, particularly those low populations. See

917
00:43:24,013 --> 00:43:26,733
Speaker 21: absolutely I support a levy and not The reality is

918
00:43:26,733 --> 00:43:29,853
Speaker 21: it's expensive to fly or get to New Zealand anyway.

919
00:43:31,053 --> 00:43:33,652
Speaker 21: Adding one hundred bucks or two hundred bucks on is

920
00:43:33,693 --> 00:43:37,213
Speaker 21: really to me here or there. The problem also is

921
00:43:37,893 --> 00:43:39,813
Speaker 21: how does that get divvied up when it gets here

922
00:43:39,813 --> 00:43:43,253
Speaker 21: because at the moment that's controlled by central government, but really,

923
00:43:43,293 --> 00:43:45,772
Speaker 21: in my mind needs to go to the areas where

924
00:43:45,773 --> 00:43:48,613
Speaker 21: the terists are spending their money to pay for that infrastructure.

925
00:43:48,813 --> 00:43:52,333
Speaker 21: Otherwise it just gets lost and there are a lot

926
00:43:52,413 --> 00:43:56,053
Speaker 21: of ways you can tax or charge people for going.

927
00:43:55,893 --> 00:43:56,493
Speaker 20: To certain areas.

928
00:43:56,493 --> 00:44:00,053
Speaker 21: Obviously, you can have your arrival levy, which they're doing

929
00:44:00,093 --> 00:44:01,533
Speaker 21: at the moment as you say, they put up from

930
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:02,973
Speaker 21: twenty five to one hundred bucks.

931
00:44:03,253 --> 00:44:05,253
Speaker 23: But you could have taxes.

932
00:44:05,373 --> 00:44:09,893
Speaker 21: Going into high quality or high demand areas such as

933
00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:12,772
Speaker 21: Mount Cook National Park for instance, or Fieldland National Park,

934
00:44:13,053 --> 00:44:15,053
Speaker 21: where the kiwi's have got to pay is a whole

935
00:44:15,133 --> 00:44:19,733
Speaker 21: other question, I guess, But again it comes down to

936
00:44:21,573 --> 00:44:24,613
Speaker 21: quality of infrastructure. And as a tourism operator myself, I know,

937
00:44:24,773 --> 00:44:28,172
Speaker 21: you know, I'm a little bit apprehensive about making ourselves

938
00:44:28,693 --> 00:44:32,213
Speaker 21: too expensive, but you need to have good product and

939
00:44:32,253 --> 00:44:35,613
Speaker 21: I always used to say that, you know, we've advertised

940
00:44:35,653 --> 00:44:37,173
Speaker 21: for a party of one hundred, we actually had a

941
00:44:37,213 --> 00:44:41,773
Speaker 21: thousand people turn up. And if you look at infrastructure

942
00:44:41,813 --> 00:44:46,133
Speaker 21: such as the national I've got going now, a lot

943
00:44:46,133 --> 00:44:49,173
Speaker 21: of it doesn't have toilets, it doesn't have facilities, so

944
00:44:49,213 --> 00:44:53,213
Speaker 21: it's untidy and those things impact on people's quality of experience.

945
00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:59,013
Speaker 21: So I fully support a tourism needing for people arriving here.

946
00:44:59,013 --> 00:45:00,493
Speaker 21: If you go to most other countries in the world,

947
00:45:00,573 --> 00:45:04,772
Speaker 21: you pay it, and we do suffer from not having

948
00:45:04,853 --> 00:45:07,853
Speaker 21: enough people to pay for those sorts of things one percent.

949
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:10,333
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting though when people say, you know,

950
00:45:11,013 --> 00:45:15,293
Speaker 2: maybe tourists won't come or if it costs too much.

951
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:18,093
Speaker 2: But everything you do in tourism, if you if you're

952
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:21,053
Speaker 2: traveling overseas, if you're coming to New Zealand, we absolutely

953
00:45:21,053 --> 00:45:24,973
Speaker 2: fleece tourists. Anytime you go to do something that's that's

954
00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:27,933
Speaker 2: in a popular tourist place, whatever you think it's going

955
00:45:27,973 --> 00:45:30,573
Speaker 2: to cost, it costs three times that. And it blows

956
00:45:30,573 --> 00:45:32,813
Speaker 2: your mind. Why wouldn't we do the same thing with

957
00:45:32,853 --> 00:45:35,973
Speaker 2: our national parks? Why would a tourism operator who works

958
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:38,653
Speaker 2: out the right amount to keep them in business and

959
00:45:39,373 --> 00:45:41,573
Speaker 2: make a profit and keep going. They work out a

960
00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:44,212
Speaker 2: price and tourists will pay it, and if it's too much,

961
00:45:44,293 --> 00:45:46,453
Speaker 2: they don't. But why don't we do that in national parks.

962
00:45:46,533 --> 00:45:49,172
Speaker 2: Let's just see, Well tourists still do the walks. If

963
00:45:49,213 --> 00:45:52,573
Speaker 2: it's five hundred bucks, well let's let's try it, because

964
00:45:52,573 --> 00:45:54,253
Speaker 2: otherwise they're just coming over there and we're not. If

965
00:45:54,253 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 2: we're not making money from them, then what's the point

966
00:45:56,133 --> 00:45:56,693
Speaker 2: in the tourists.

967
00:45:57,893 --> 00:45:59,813
Speaker 21: If you're paying five hundred bucks, you're doing it through

968
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:01,573
Speaker 21: a private company. If you if you're doing it on

969
00:46:01,613 --> 00:46:02,933
Speaker 21: your own, it's either going to be that much.

970
00:46:02,933 --> 00:46:04,853
Speaker 2: But the next time, I'm just using it as as

971
00:46:04,853 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 2: an example. You find the cost that is that is

972
00:46:07,453 --> 00:46:09,733
Speaker 2: at the exact point where you make money off the

973
00:46:09,773 --> 00:46:12,693
Speaker 2: tourists and they still they still come. That's what you do.

974
00:46:12,773 --> 00:46:15,493
Speaker 2: You don't charge them nothing. You find that, you find

975
00:46:15,493 --> 00:46:18,213
Speaker 2: the cost that is the right cost for us to

976
00:46:18,213 --> 00:46:20,213
Speaker 2: make money off them and for them to keep coming.

977
00:46:20,493 --> 00:46:23,093
Speaker 2: And that's what every tourism operator does. That's what that's

978
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:26,093
Speaker 2: what we do, but we don't do it in our

979
00:46:26,173 --> 00:46:28,173
Speaker 2: national parks. So just find out what that money is.

980
00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:30,733
Speaker 2: Five hundred sounds a lot. I was just using that example,

981
00:46:30,773 --> 00:46:33,013
Speaker 2: but maybe it's two fifty. I mean, how much do

982
00:46:33,053 --> 00:46:34,053
Speaker 2: you pay for a bungee jump?

983
00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 11: It's about that.

984
00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:37,413
Speaker 3: Well, it's quite expensive. And you're right, you know you

985
00:46:37,413 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 3: get the young tourists coming through. I mean, car, what

986
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:41,613
Speaker 3: what do you do in tourism? What's your business?

987
00:46:44,173 --> 00:46:48,093
Speaker 21: I know, well, their own Tikopa springs that make Tekea pots.

988
00:46:48,293 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 21: So we've about one hundred and seventy thousand people through.

989
00:46:50,533 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 21: You have probably divided fifty fifty between international and domestic.

990
00:46:57,293 --> 00:46:59,973
Speaker 2: Your era gets absolutely punished by the amount of people

991
00:46:59,973 --> 00:47:02,693
Speaker 2: coming through and the amount of locals that have to

992
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:03,773
Speaker 2: pay for the infrastructure.

993
00:47:04,933 --> 00:47:07,293
Speaker 21: Well, we're a basic example. I guess I've look four

994
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:09,773
Speaker 21: and a half thousand rowe as. We've got huge tourism

995
00:47:09,853 --> 00:47:12,213
Speaker 21: growth and we our infrastructure is really struggling.

996
00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:12,893
Speaker 3: Yeah.

997
00:47:12,933 --> 00:47:16,652
Speaker 21: So, but you know it's central government have to change

998
00:47:16,733 --> 00:47:19,973
Speaker 21: legislation so that these areas get some of that money back. Definitely,

999
00:47:20,013 --> 00:47:20,853
Speaker 21: and at the moment.

1000
00:47:20,653 --> 00:47:21,693
Speaker 24: That's not how it works.

1001
00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:24,253
Speaker 21: I mean, there are examples and other places in the

1002
00:47:24,253 --> 00:47:28,053
Speaker 21: world of Switzerland and Germany where those high use areas

1003
00:47:28,093 --> 00:47:29,333
Speaker 21: get a lot of that money back.

1004
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:32,013
Speaker 3: But it's good to check to you, Carl, because in

1005
00:47:32,013 --> 00:47:34,093
Speaker 3: the McKenzie district, I think you guys are the canary

1006
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:36,413
Speaker 3: and the coal mine. You know, we've talked about Queenstown

1007
00:47:36,453 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 3: and I wrote to all and Topoor, but I think

1008
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:41,853
Speaker 3: you guys have been feeling it more than anybody else

1009
00:47:41,893 --> 00:47:44,413
Speaker 3: in terms of how much it's tried to expand and

1010
00:47:44,453 --> 00:47:46,933
Speaker 3: how much tourists are flooding into the area and the

1011
00:47:46,933 --> 00:47:50,293
Speaker 3: infrastructure can't cope and you can't do bed levees and

1012
00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:52,413
Speaker 3: you can't charge tourists to go on the walks and

1013
00:47:52,413 --> 00:47:54,732
Speaker 3: in the McKenzie districts. So it starts to get hard

1014
00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:55,573
Speaker 3: for you guys, right.

1015
00:47:57,053 --> 00:47:58,493
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, there are a lot of things we could

1016
00:47:58,493 --> 00:48:00,893
Speaker 21: do that would that would help.

1017
00:48:00,813 --> 00:48:01,413
Speaker 5: Them in favor.

1018
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:03,853
Speaker 21: I mean, you know, you have road tolls and all

1019
00:48:03,893 --> 00:48:05,933
Speaker 21: sorts of places in the world you simply drive through

1020
00:48:05,973 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 21: it and it'll send you a bill. And I don't

1021
00:48:08,133 --> 00:48:10,613
Speaker 21: see why those sorts of things couldn't be introduced again,

1022
00:48:10,653 --> 00:48:13,293
Speaker 21: it comes back to legislating a central government level to

1023
00:48:13,293 --> 00:48:14,493
Speaker 21: actually be able to do these things.

1024
00:48:14,773 --> 00:48:15,013
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1025
00:48:15,293 --> 00:48:17,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, great to chat with you, cal Thank you very much.

1026
00:48:17,773 --> 00:48:19,493
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1027
00:48:19,613 --> 00:48:22,373
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1028
00:48:22,373 --> 00:48:24,253
Speaker 3: Tichoo Springs are amazing by the way you've been.

1029
00:48:24,333 --> 00:48:25,453
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fantastic.

1030
00:48:25,493 --> 00:48:29,413
Speaker 3: Oh good and winter incredible area of the world. Yeah. Absolutely.

1031
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:32,053
Speaker 3: It is a quarter past two.

1032
00:48:32,573 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 4: You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams

1033
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:39,973
Speaker 4: Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1034
00:48:39,773 --> 00:48:44,373
Speaker 3: Said, be seventeen past two, and we are talking about

1035
00:48:44,613 --> 00:48:48,453
Speaker 3: the potential to charge international tourists more to go to

1036
00:48:48,493 --> 00:48:51,013
Speaker 3: our national parks and maybe even us keywis.

1037
00:48:50,813 --> 00:48:52,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said before that it's it's our job

1038
00:48:52,773 --> 00:48:54,173
Speaker 2: and why we have tourists here is to try and

1039
00:48:54,213 --> 00:48:56,692
Speaker 2: fleece them for as much as we can. We work

1040
00:48:56,733 --> 00:48:58,293
Speaker 2: out what the prices to bring them in, and they

1041
00:48:58,293 --> 00:49:00,133
Speaker 2: do give a value to the country or us. There

1042
00:49:00,173 --> 00:49:02,733
Speaker 2: is absolutely no point. And I think it's every the responsible,

1043
00:49:02,813 --> 00:49:05,813
Speaker 2: every man, woman and child in this country to lease

1044
00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:09,053
Speaker 2: the people that come here to at the extent of

1045
00:49:09,093 --> 00:49:10,973
Speaker 2: our abilities. And boy, am I getting a lot of

1046
00:49:10,973 --> 00:49:15,333
Speaker 2: hate for this. It's really firing up. That is that

1047
00:49:16,093 --> 00:49:19,773
Speaker 2: overtly demonstrative statement has really fired people up on nine

1048
00:49:19,853 --> 00:49:23,613
Speaker 2: two nine two, and I love it. Matt. That is disgusting.

1049
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:25,652
Speaker 2: Tourists are here to enjoy what we have, not to

1050
00:49:25,653 --> 00:49:29,933
Speaker 2: be treated like a commodity. Matt Heath, you might like

1051
00:49:30,053 --> 00:49:32,133
Speaker 2: using people for money. I prefer to welcome them with

1052
00:49:32,173 --> 00:49:35,133
Speaker 2: open arms. Oh wow, Okay, that is no way to

1053
00:49:35,133 --> 00:49:37,493
Speaker 2: treat people. Says another text. The tourists are humans, not

1054
00:49:37,533 --> 00:49:42,333
Speaker 2: eight ms. Look, if people move to this country and

1055
00:49:42,533 --> 00:49:47,053
Speaker 2: start paying taxes, then they can fleece them and open them. Welcome. Yeah,

1056
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:49,933
Speaker 2: welcome with open arms and welcome tourists. One of the

1057
00:49:49,933 --> 00:49:53,213
Speaker 2: best ways to fleece tourists is still be welcome. Them

1058
00:49:53,253 --> 00:49:55,613
Speaker 2: with open arms. You welcome them open arms, You show

1059
00:49:55,613 --> 00:49:57,573
Speaker 2: them where the great things are, and then you charge

1060
00:49:57,573 --> 00:49:59,493
Speaker 2: them to go and use them. And if that's the

1061
00:49:59,573 --> 00:50:03,613
Speaker 2: national parks, then so glad you came to a country

1062
00:50:05,093 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 2: love visitors from overseas one hundred and fifty bucks, please

1063
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:10,813
Speaker 2: and go and enjoy our natural wonderlands.

1064
00:50:10,813 --> 00:50:12,773
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you want to

1065
00:50:12,813 --> 00:50:15,692
Speaker 3: abuse Matt's you're more than welcome right now.

1066
00:50:17,693 --> 00:50:18,733
Speaker 2: Is loving me today?

1067
00:50:19,493 --> 00:50:20,773
Speaker 3: Mall you mate?

1068
00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:23,652
Speaker 5: I'm very good, thank you?

1069
00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:28,172
Speaker 3: And what's your thought about charging tourists more? Fleecing them

1070
00:50:28,173 --> 00:50:32,773
Speaker 3: for all their worth? As Matt said, enjoying your show, guys.

1071
00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:35,573
Speaker 20: And yeah, look, I don't know if we'll be.

1072
00:50:35,453 --> 00:50:37,973
Speaker 24: Calling it pleecing, but I actually agree with them, and

1073
00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:41,772
Speaker 24: the fleecing is probably not the right word.

1074
00:50:41,853 --> 00:50:43,773
Speaker 2: But if not the word we'd share, we would we

1075
00:50:43,773 --> 00:50:45,853
Speaker 2: wouldn't share that word with them, We wouldn't let them

1076
00:50:45,893 --> 00:50:47,013
Speaker 2: know that we were calling it out.

1077
00:50:48,093 --> 00:50:51,013
Speaker 24: Okay, let's keep check that on the lowdown. We'll just

1078
00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:55,933
Speaker 24: make sure that they've got an absolutely pleasurable experience and

1079
00:50:55,933 --> 00:50:58,853
Speaker 24: that we've managed to extract every single nickel or dimeon

1080
00:50:59,413 --> 00:51:03,293
Speaker 24: and they've enjoyed the ride, and I think that there's

1081
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:05,973
Speaker 24: a number of countries around the world that are very

1082
00:51:06,133 --> 00:51:09,373
Speaker 24: very very good at doing that. And I've recently had

1083
00:51:09,413 --> 00:51:12,893
Speaker 24: the experience of going to Ireland and it was very

1084
00:51:12,973 --> 00:51:15,533
Speaker 24: very expensive and I found by the time I finished,

1085
00:51:15,733 --> 00:51:19,453
Speaker 24: my pockets were absolutely empty that I had and enjoyed

1086
00:51:19,453 --> 00:51:21,893
Speaker 24: the experience, and that's suck efic thing they possibly cout

1087
00:51:21,933 --> 00:51:27,093
Speaker 24: out of my pocket. And so I agree with you,

1088
00:51:27,093 --> 00:51:32,053
Speaker 24: you know, but please sing no. So kwis kiwis as

1089
00:51:32,093 --> 00:51:35,893
Speaker 24: a birthright. I think we're entitled because of everything that's

1090
00:51:35,933 --> 00:51:39,652
Speaker 24: been contributed to have access to the bush, and there's

1091
00:51:39,693 --> 00:51:42,093
Speaker 24: no doubt about it. We're trying to encourage a healthy

1092
00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:45,133
Speaker 24: populace and one way of doing that is making it

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00:51:45,173 --> 00:51:47,133
Speaker 24: readily accessible to people, no.

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00:51:47,053 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 5: Matter who they are.

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00:51:48,173 --> 00:51:50,853
Speaker 24: We're one people, one country, and they should all be

1096
00:51:51,053 --> 00:51:56,453
Speaker 24: entitled to it as their birthright, and the overseas visitors

1097
00:51:56,493 --> 00:52:00,053
Speaker 24: that come they should obviously contribute. I think it should

1098
00:52:00,053 --> 00:52:03,173
Speaker 24: be a little bit targeted, particularly where we can and

1099
00:52:03,213 --> 00:52:07,053
Speaker 24: there's some fantastic information centers up and down the country

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00:52:07,453 --> 00:52:10,093
Speaker 24: and people going to be doing these work walks, they

1101
00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:12,613
Speaker 24: should go there and they should obtain the permits. The

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00:52:12,653 --> 00:52:16,973
Speaker 24: permit should be relatively cheap. But like overseas, you know,

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00:52:17,093 --> 00:52:19,973
Speaker 24: some of the places, if you get caught and you

1104
00:52:20,013 --> 00:52:22,973
Speaker 24: don't have that permit and you're a tourist or whoever,

1105
00:52:23,533 --> 00:52:27,213
Speaker 24: you know, you pay handsomely for being.

1106
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:28,053
Speaker 11: Tinged, you know.

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00:52:28,493 --> 00:52:30,373
Speaker 24: And if you've got a top worker and you're a

1108
00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:32,093
Speaker 24: tourist and you get caught on the trail and you

1109
00:52:32,133 --> 00:52:35,133
Speaker 24: haven't got your permit or whatever else with you, you know,

1110
00:52:35,253 --> 00:52:37,893
Speaker 24: there's a handsome fine which can be extracted before you

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00:52:37,973 --> 00:52:38,613
Speaker 24: leave the country.

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Speaker 18: Thank you very much, Yeah you.

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00:52:40,013 --> 00:52:42,573
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, well I think thank you so much for

1114
00:52:42,613 --> 00:52:47,333
Speaker 2: your call. This this Texas hit says do other seat?

1115
00:52:47,333 --> 00:52:49,733
Speaker 2: Where is it that's gone? Disappeared on me? One second?

1116
00:52:49,853 --> 00:52:52,293
Speaker 2: But Bubba, so many texts abusing me coming in, it's

1117
00:52:52,333 --> 00:52:55,653
Speaker 2: hard to get to the one that or boy, where's

1118
00:52:55,653 --> 00:52:56,053
Speaker 2: it gone?

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00:52:56,133 --> 00:52:59,893
Speaker 3: Well, here's one that agrees with you. Yes, Matt love

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00:52:59,933 --> 00:53:02,773
Speaker 3: what you're saying, New Zealand is a business? Is it not?

1121
00:53:04,013 --> 00:53:05,813
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just remember what Basically here we go on

1122
00:53:05,893 --> 00:53:08,853
Speaker 2: with Matt. Text coming through this keeps going down on

1123
00:53:09,573 --> 00:53:13,293
Speaker 2: on with Matt. Other countries do other country overseas fleece us?

1124
00:53:13,293 --> 00:53:15,212
Speaker 2: Of course they do? Wake up people. That's one hundred

1125
00:53:15,213 --> 00:53:16,733
Speaker 2: percent correct. But it took me a long time to

1126
00:53:16,773 --> 00:53:18,333
Speaker 2: find a text that was about focus.

1127
00:53:18,013 --> 00:53:20,533
Speaker 3: With blooding in. At the moment, you've really put the.

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00:53:21,173 --> 00:53:23,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because I go You know, I went to

1129
00:53:23,533 --> 00:53:26,813
Speaker 2: Hawaii not so long ago, and they absolutely fleeced me.

1130
00:53:26,933 --> 00:53:31,333
Speaker 2: Hawaii is a well oiled tourist fleecing machine. You wouldn't

1131
00:53:31,373 --> 00:53:32,893
Speaker 2: believe the ways they get money out of you. The

1132
00:53:32,933 --> 00:53:35,853
Speaker 2: money just you leave, you're completely stripped of all the

1133
00:53:35,893 --> 00:53:38,893
Speaker 2: cash you could possibly they can possibly get off you. Yeah,

1134
00:53:38,933 --> 00:53:40,772
Speaker 2: but I had a great time and I'll probably go back.

1135
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:43,253
Speaker 3: Same with Thailand. I went to Thailand as a somewhat

1136
00:53:43,293 --> 00:53:45,213
Speaker 3: wealthy guy and they took most of my money and

1137
00:53:45,253 --> 00:53:46,333
Speaker 3: I'm still making up for it now.

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Speaker 2: That's that's all I'm saying. That's the point of tourism.

1139
00:53:48,893 --> 00:53:51,732
Speaker 2: It's not a nasty thing. You We love to meet people.

1140
00:53:51,773 --> 00:53:53,773
Speaker 2: We love all people from all around the world. But

1141
00:53:53,853 --> 00:53:55,853
Speaker 2: you're naive if you think when you go to another

1142
00:53:55,893 --> 00:53:58,652
Speaker 2: country that they're not doing everything they can to fleece you.

1143
00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:01,253
Speaker 2: That's the point. People are on holidays, they've got that's

1144
00:54:01,253 --> 00:54:04,253
Speaker 2: when they're going to spend spend money. So my point

1145
00:54:04,333 --> 00:54:06,333
Speaker 2: is that if our tourism operators are so good at

1146
00:54:06,333 --> 00:54:09,093
Speaker 2: fleecing people as they are, and I know fleecing this

1147
00:54:09,133 --> 00:54:12,053
Speaker 2: is a triggering word for the text machine. It's operation

1148
00:54:12,213 --> 00:54:14,453
Speaker 2: Secret fleece. We just we don't say that to the tourists.

1149
00:54:14,493 --> 00:54:16,773
Speaker 2: We say it's operation Everyone in New Zealand knows that's

1150
00:54:16,773 --> 00:54:18,253
Speaker 2: their job to fleece the tourists. We don't tell the

1151
00:54:18,293 --> 00:54:20,973
Speaker 2: tourists that that's what we're doing. To all intentsive purpose,

1152
00:54:21,013 --> 00:54:22,533
Speaker 2: they come here and just they have a wonderfull time.

1153
00:54:22,573 --> 00:54:26,252
Speaker 2: But we are fleecing them. But that's that's the point.

1154
00:54:26,253 --> 00:54:28,693
Speaker 2: And I'm all I'm saying is that the national parks

1155
00:54:28,733 --> 00:54:30,652
Speaker 2: that people that tourists go on to, why aren't we

1156
00:54:30,653 --> 00:54:33,693
Speaker 2: doing treating the same way as a bungee jump operator

1157
00:54:33,733 --> 00:54:36,333
Speaker 2: would or a jetboat operator a would we find the

1158
00:54:36,333 --> 00:54:38,013
Speaker 2: price that they're willing to pay and then we charge

1159
00:54:38,013 --> 00:54:38,253
Speaker 2: them that.

1160
00:54:38,373 --> 00:54:40,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, just as it's oigned.

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00:54:40,373 --> 00:54:42,893
Speaker 2: By the government doesn't mean that it shouldn't. We shouldn't

1162
00:54:42,893 --> 00:54:45,053
Speaker 2: be trying to make money from the tourists that come

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00:54:45,093 --> 00:54:48,573
Speaker 2: here for its upkeep and Kiwi's We're already paid for

1164
00:54:48,613 --> 00:54:51,253
Speaker 2: the upkeep with our taxes. So kiwis free International tourists

1165
00:54:51,413 --> 00:54:53,212
Speaker 2: get charged a lot to go to our international park

1166
00:54:53,293 --> 00:54:54,373
Speaker 2: in national parks.

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00:54:54,093 --> 00:54:57,493
Speaker 3: One hundred percent pure fleecing. That's the new campaign slogan.

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00:54:57,573 --> 00:54:59,493
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1169
00:54:59,533 --> 00:55:01,453
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. It is

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00:55:01,493 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 3: twenty four past.

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00:55:02,213 --> 00:55:10,293
Speaker 1: Two matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

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00:55:10,373 --> 00:55:12,853
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news TALKSB.

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00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:14,732
Speaker 3: News talks HEB twenty six past two.

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00:55:15,093 --> 00:55:16,773
Speaker 2: Just got a text here in nine two nine two,

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00:55:16,853 --> 00:55:18,453
Speaker 2: Mett you discussed me, not that one. That wasn't when

1176
00:55:18,453 --> 00:55:21,213
Speaker 2: I was going to read out this one here, kiwis

1177
00:55:21,253 --> 00:55:24,133
Speaker 2: are too nice. We are allowed to make money from people.

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00:55:24,453 --> 00:55:27,893
Speaker 2: That's all I am saying is that it is. We

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00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:30,413
Speaker 2: have tourists here for one reason, and that's to make

1180
00:55:30,413 --> 00:55:32,813
Speaker 2: money off them. And why do the tourists and operators

1181
00:55:33,213 --> 00:55:35,493
Speaker 2: make as much money as they can But the government

1182
00:55:35,653 --> 00:55:38,212
Speaker 2: national parks don't make all the money they can, so

1183
00:55:38,693 --> 00:55:40,573
Speaker 2: charge them, find the limit that they're willing to pay

1184
00:55:40,613 --> 00:55:43,212
Speaker 2: and charge them just like any other business. And key

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00:55:43,253 --> 00:55:44,613
Speaker 2: wes that have paid their taxes get to go to

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00:55:44,653 --> 00:55:48,093
Speaker 2: the national parks for free. Do you disagree? Oh e

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00:55:48,093 --> 00:55:49,373
Speaker 2: one hundred eighteen eighty.

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00:55:49,293 --> 00:55:50,573
Speaker 3: Mark, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I'm in full agreement with charging for the

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00:55:54,493 --> 00:56:00,293
Speaker 6: national parks. There are good facilities being offered and I myself,

1191
00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:02,133
Speaker 6: I use them and I don't mind paying for them.

1192
00:56:03,133 --> 00:56:06,053
Speaker 6: But there should be no exemption. So at the same time,

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00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:12,613
Speaker 6: everyone pays, regardless whether they are THEOC worker off having

1194
00:56:12,653 --> 00:56:16,213
Speaker 6: this time off and whatnot not. They pay Indigenous people,

1195
00:56:16,453 --> 00:56:22,053
Speaker 6: they pay to no exemptions. We all pay and yep, add.

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00:56:21,893 --> 00:56:25,093
Speaker 3: The same racers international mark or do we get a discount.

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00:56:27,013 --> 00:56:27,133
Speaker 5: Now?

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00:56:27,253 --> 00:56:29,173
Speaker 6: I think you keep it all the same and you

1199
00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:35,453
Speaker 6: go online to buy the tickets bought online and if

1200
00:56:35,493 --> 00:56:38,813
Speaker 6: you get caught in a park without a permit, without

1201
00:56:38,813 --> 00:56:43,133
Speaker 6: a paid ticket, then you get fined heavily. And on

1202
00:56:43,173 --> 00:56:45,293
Speaker 6: the other hand, the doc wants a good shake up.

1203
00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:47,333
Speaker 6: We need to get those people out of those people,

1204
00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:51,333
Speaker 6: the staff, those permanent staff in, the officers out and

1205
00:56:51,413 --> 00:56:53,373
Speaker 6: roll this leaves up and do some work for a change,

1206
00:56:53,453 --> 00:56:56,533
Speaker 6: rather than get out getting contractors because they just sit

1207
00:56:56,573 --> 00:57:00,133
Speaker 6: in their office and get contractors out and corporate office

1208
00:57:00,133 --> 00:57:02,573
Speaker 6: and all that. We need to get them guys out working.

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00:57:03,173 --> 00:57:05,893
Speaker 2: Thanks so much you call Mark. This textra gorues me absolutely.

1210
00:57:05,933 --> 00:57:07,973
Speaker 2: Tip the tourist upside down, shake all the money from

1211
00:57:08,013 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 2: their posts and sent them home. But someone also points

1212
00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:14,652
Speaker 2: out on nineteen nine two, don't miss the point that

1213
00:57:14,693 --> 00:57:19,093
Speaker 2: oversees visit's pay directly Circle n zed one billion dollars

1214
00:57:19,093 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 2: in GST per Ani the at tax. That's true, But

1215
00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:24,413
Speaker 2: we get more GST the more we get them to

1216
00:57:24,453 --> 00:57:28,013
Speaker 2: spend here, so that that GST take goes up once

1217
00:57:28,013 --> 00:57:30,173
Speaker 2: we get them here and we get them paying for

1218
00:57:30,373 --> 00:57:33,613
Speaker 2: Once operation fleees the tourists, it gets underway.

1219
00:57:34,333 --> 00:57:37,373
Speaker 3: Quick text here, gooda guys, here we go again. We

1220
00:57:37,893 --> 00:57:40,093
Speaker 3: are the nation that wants everything but doesn't want to

1221
00:57:40,093 --> 00:57:42,173
Speaker 3: pay for anything. Wake up. There is a cost to everything,

1222
00:57:42,293 --> 00:57:44,533
Speaker 3: but it should be a reasonable cost from us. I

1223
00:57:44,533 --> 00:57:46,333
Speaker 3: suppose to your point, Yes, there is a cost in

1224
00:57:46,413 --> 00:57:48,693
Speaker 3: the international tourists. Yeah, I can pay for it.

1225
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:51,613
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the national parks we already pay for with

1226
00:57:51,653 --> 00:57:53,613
Speaker 2: our taxes. Yeah, the tourists ston't.

1227
00:57:53,813 --> 00:57:56,333
Speaker 3: Tony, how do you feel about this hike?

1228
00:57:56,893 --> 00:58:00,493
Speaker 25: I got here like absolutely charged tourists. I don't think, key,

1229
00:58:00,493 --> 00:58:02,613
Speaker 25: we should be charged you with quite earlier on who

1230
00:58:02,693 --> 00:58:05,573
Speaker 25: said that that is at birth right, and you know,

1231
00:58:05,653 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 25: to a degree I agree with that. All those you

1232
00:58:08,173 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 25: know some facilities will need to be charged for. But

1233
00:58:11,973 --> 00:58:14,973
Speaker 25: if you go off shore, you know, all things you do,

1234
00:58:15,053 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 25: whether it's a walk or even just to walk down

1235
00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:19,373
Speaker 25: onto the beach, you know, you get charged for.

1236
00:58:19,493 --> 00:58:20,213
Speaker 17: You get for.

1237
00:58:20,813 --> 00:58:24,013
Speaker 25: And one of the things that is in the headlines

1238
00:58:24,053 --> 00:58:26,453
Speaker 25: recently is about, you know, the number of tourists sort

1239
00:58:26,493 --> 00:58:29,613
Speaker 25: of reaching pre COVID levels. Well, I actually don't want that.

1240
00:58:29,773 --> 00:58:33,693
Speaker 25: I want a lower volume of higher value tourists because

1241
00:58:34,413 --> 00:58:36,773
Speaker 25: a few years ago now, but coming up through the

1242
00:58:36,853 --> 00:58:39,133
Speaker 25: Mckenji Country you're talking about it before tighter coming up

1243
00:58:39,133 --> 00:58:43,933
Speaker 25: through the Mckenji Country in central Otago, and it's just ghastly,

1244
00:58:44,413 --> 00:58:47,213
Speaker 25: you know, the freedom and the number of people just

1245
00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:52,853
Speaker 25: swarming through these natural, natural areas. We just we can't

1246
00:58:52,893 --> 00:58:56,133
Speaker 25: sustain the tourism that we have at the moment.

1247
00:58:56,213 --> 00:58:57,293
Speaker 5: It's it's you know.

1248
00:58:57,653 --> 00:59:01,693
Speaker 25: Destroying the beauty that everyone wants to come and see.

1249
00:59:01,813 --> 00:59:05,373
Speaker 25: And I'm actually all for this movement that you that

1250
00:59:05,413 --> 00:59:09,053
Speaker 25: you heard about and where was the America's Cup Bartolona

1251
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:11,573
Speaker 25: and you know an in Florence, in Venus and these

1252
00:59:11,613 --> 00:59:15,533
Speaker 25: other you know, really highly touristed areas about pushback against

1253
00:59:15,853 --> 00:59:20,453
Speaker 25: over tourism. Absolutely charged the tourists lower than volume of tourists,

1254
00:59:20,453 --> 00:59:23,373
Speaker 25: but that increased the revenue to her head.

1255
00:59:23,573 --> 00:59:26,653
Speaker 2: If they do more damage than good, then then what's

1256
00:59:26,693 --> 00:59:28,773
Speaker 2: the point. I like this text on nine two nine two.

1257
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:31,293
Speaker 2: We fleece each others hard, so why aren't we fleecing

1258
00:59:31,333 --> 00:59:33,493
Speaker 2: the tourists. That's true. We are fleecing each other, and

1259
00:59:33,493 --> 00:59:35,733
Speaker 2: you seem nothing's cheap at the moment.

1260
00:59:35,813 --> 00:59:38,133
Speaker 3: Let's wrap other people off, right, Thank you very much.

1261
00:59:38,133 --> 00:59:40,933
Speaker 3: We're going to pick this up after the headlines, but

1262
00:59:40,973 --> 00:59:42,653
Speaker 3: we're going to change tech a little bit.

1263
00:59:42,853 --> 00:59:45,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look we are in talkback radio and keis

1264
00:59:45,213 --> 00:59:48,053
Speaker 2: love talking about weather. But I was talking to an

1265
00:59:48,093 --> 00:59:53,213
Speaker 2: international pilot yesterday because I was down at an airbase

1266
00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:57,093
Speaker 2: and I was twitted this interational payer and he said,

1267
00:59:57,413 --> 00:59:59,573
Speaker 2: after a few drinks he said this and this, this

1268
00:59:59,693 --> 01:00:02,733
Speaker 2: might this might fire people up. It wasn't any of

1269
01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:05,373
Speaker 2: the good people of the in zaf that said that.

1270
01:00:05,413 --> 01:00:06,773
Speaker 3: Right, this is an internetional pilot.

1271
01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:10,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was speaking down it haka and afterwards in

1272
01:00:10,813 --> 01:00:13,133
Speaker 2: the formal dinner I got talking to it. I'm not

1273
01:00:13,133 --> 01:00:13,693
Speaker 2: going to say what.

1274
01:00:13,733 --> 01:00:17,973
Speaker 3: Nation, no keep that he was from, but he said that.

1275
01:00:19,493 --> 01:00:22,693
Speaker 2: New Zealand has the worst weather in the world that

1276
01:00:22,773 --> 01:00:25,253
Speaker 2: he has flown everywhere in the world, and he said,

1277
01:00:25,333 --> 01:00:28,733
Speaker 2: we have the worst climate in the world. And he

1278
01:00:28,773 --> 01:00:31,133
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it that no one said before he came here,

1279
01:00:31,493 --> 01:00:35,053
Speaker 2: that New Zealand has rubbish weather from the top to

1280
01:00:35,093 --> 01:00:35,533
Speaker 2: the bottom.

1281
01:00:35,573 --> 01:00:39,253
Speaker 3: How dare name and shame? Who is this guy?

1282
01:00:40,493 --> 01:00:44,053
Speaker 2: Look it it's on an R and Z base. So

1283
01:00:44,533 --> 01:00:47,293
Speaker 2: this this overseas pilot and look the New Zealand pilots

1284
01:00:47,293 --> 01:00:50,013
Speaker 2: didn't agree. In fact, we had a bit of discussion

1285
01:00:50,173 --> 01:00:53,533
Speaker 2: and they said New Zealand it's a challenging place to fly, absolutely,

1286
01:00:53,613 --> 01:00:57,093
Speaker 2: but you know they love that part of it. But yeah,

1287
01:00:57,093 --> 01:00:59,733
Speaker 2: he said, New Zealand has the worst weather in the world.

1288
01:00:59,813 --> 01:01:02,533
Speaker 2: Do we do, people that have traveled the world a lot?

1289
01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:05,333
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a lot of rain, We have

1290
01:01:05,373 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 2: a lot of weather. It's variable and it depends what

1291
01:01:07,933 --> 01:01:10,573
Speaker 2: you mean by worse weather as well, because I like it.

1292
01:01:10,973 --> 01:01:14,333
Speaker 2: I like seasons. But it does rain a lot. Where

1293
01:01:14,733 --> 01:01:18,253
Speaker 2: we're a thin island and we get we get we

1294
01:01:18,333 --> 01:01:19,533
Speaker 2: get stuff from all sides.

1295
01:01:19,613 --> 01:01:20,333
Speaker 3: It's changeable.

1296
01:01:20,493 --> 01:01:23,573
Speaker 2: But do we have the worst weather in the entire world?

1297
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Speaker 3: Oh ten eighty nine to ninety two is a text number.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man you've upset people again, Matt Right, get on

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Speaker 3: the phones. It airs twenty eight minutes to three.

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Speaker 11: You talks. It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 16: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. And in New

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Speaker 16: Zealand First, two lawyers who represented the christ Church mosque

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Speaker 16: shooter have been granted permanent name suppression. Police are investigating

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Speaker 16: after the death of a baby in the East Auckland

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01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:55,453
Speaker 16: suburb of Beechlands last night. At this stage, the death's

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01:01:55,493 --> 01:02:00,253
Speaker 16: being treated as unexplained. About ten thousand people from Ruta

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01:02:00,333 --> 01:02:04,013
Speaker 16: Dua and beyond have joined a National Hikhoi Acts. Divisive

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Speaker 16: Treaty Principles Bill passed its first reading in Parliament yesterday

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01:02:07,973 --> 01:02:11,893
Speaker 16: with from National and New Zealand First. The Government is

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Speaker 16: unveiled the terms of reference for its review of the

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Speaker 16: electricity market. A sector review will consider options for improvements

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Speaker 16: to deliver reliable electricity at the lowest possible cost to consumers. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 16: we could be playing slightly higher levees on our power

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Speaker 16: bills by this time next year. The Electricity Authority is

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Speaker 16: proposing increasing the average household levy by twelve cents and

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01:02:35,693 --> 01:02:40,013
Speaker 16: the average business levy seventy seven cents per month. Can

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Speaker 16: cross words and games prevent dementia. You can find out

1318
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Speaker 16: more at enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and

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Speaker 16: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen. It is twenty four to three.

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Speaker 2: I was at the rnzaf A base at or Hockeya

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Speaker 2: yesterday for doing a speech, as I said before, and

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Speaker 2: the people down there, those pilots, the people everyone involved

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Speaker 2: in the air force that I met are just the

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Speaker 2: most fantastic people, the best of us, absolute great New Zealanders.

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01:03:04,773 --> 01:03:07,973
Speaker 2: I met an overseas pilot there as well during the

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Speaker 2: formal dinner and he was a nice guy. But he

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Speaker 2: says to me, he says, he says, he says, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand has the absolute worst weather in the world. He's

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Speaker 2: flying everywhere in the world and New Zealand has the

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Speaker 2: absolute worst weather. There was a lot of kickback from

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Speaker 2: the Kiwi pilots on that. Yeah, they said, we had

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Speaker 2: interesting with her here, but not the worst weather in

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Speaker 2: the world. And it was a great discussion.

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Speaker 3: But do we how dare he and what do you reckon?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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01:03:36,213 --> 01:03:39,293
Speaker 26: Absolutely, we don't have the worst weather in the world.

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Speaker 26: I was brought up in Angram. I've been a Kiwi

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01:03:42,613 --> 01:03:45,253
Speaker 26: for years now. We came out here and had our

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Speaker 26: children here, and I'm a Kiwi. But I go back

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01:03:48,733 --> 01:03:51,653
Speaker 26: to when I was a teenager on a farm and

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Speaker 26: I can remember one particular morning. It was so cold

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Speaker 26: the inside because nobody had inside. It was a great,

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01:03:59,213 --> 01:04:01,333
Speaker 26: big old farmhouse and we had no warmth at night.

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01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:03,533
Speaker 26: You know, they just used hot water bottles and what

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01:04:03,573 --> 01:04:05,493
Speaker 26: you could do. And it was frozen on the inside,

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01:04:05,533 --> 01:04:08,613
Speaker 26: and the goldfish got frozen and they then the little

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01:04:08,693 --> 01:04:12,613
Speaker 26: cheap thing and my mom had to defrost them slowly

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Speaker 26: and they.

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Speaker 2: Lived and bring it back and it still lives.

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Speaker 26: There was a little bit. But one thing I do

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01:04:23,853 --> 01:04:26,453
Speaker 26: want to tell you was I went outside I can

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01:04:26,493 --> 01:04:30,413
Speaker 26: remember as a child and walked towards it and there

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Speaker 26: were birds and they were frozen to death and they

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01:04:32,893 --> 01:04:36,733
Speaker 26: were still clutching on the hedge. It was so cold.

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Speaker 26: And my interest was farming, which I pursued, and you

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Speaker 26: know it was you had to get hot water out

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Speaker 26: to get the open the gates to get into the cattle,

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Speaker 26: and they knocked you over because you were trying to

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Speaker 26: give them hay.

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Speaker 3: And where is the housecape that you're talking about Obviously

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Speaker 3: it's in England, but what part of.

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Speaker 26: It and this would have been I don't know where

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Speaker 26: I was at that stage. I worked all different times.

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01:05:02,493 --> 01:05:05,573
Speaker 26: I went to the college at Rittle and so around

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01:05:05,573 --> 01:05:08,093
Speaker 26: there somewhere you had to do practical work. But I

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Speaker 26: had plenty of practical work on my own farm.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what cold is here in New Zealand.

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01:05:13,573 --> 01:05:15,093
Speaker 2: So you know, this guy's saying we've got the worst

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Speaker 2: weather ever. He was complaining about wind and rain. But

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Speaker 2: you know, if you people in Canada and certain times, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if their cat gets gets out of the house, that's

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01:05:24,373 --> 01:05:26,853
Speaker 2: in a frozen cat. You go out in the Yeah,

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01:05:26,853 --> 01:05:31,253
Speaker 2: that's that's a catsicle. You there's nowhere in New Zealand

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01:05:31,253 --> 01:05:34,053
Speaker 2: that will produce catsicles. But I mean the question is

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Speaker 2: what is the worst weather as well? Because I like

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01:05:36,293 --> 01:05:38,413
Speaker 2: the four seasons in one day. I like the variety.

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Speaker 2: And as someone texts here another fan of Captain Scott Buttery,

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01:05:41,493 --> 01:05:44,493
Speaker 2: who's my favorite ATR Pilot in New Zealand. Great pilot

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01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:46,973
Speaker 2: rams it into like a tent pig and when he

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01:05:47,053 --> 01:05:49,293
Speaker 2: lands in Napier but a great pilot and a crosswind.

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Speaker 2: But as everyone knows in New Zealand. You that the

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01:05:52,173 --> 01:05:54,413
Speaker 2: pilots always say there's a bit of weather about. When

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Speaker 2: you're flying, there's a bit of weather about, And that's

1385
01:05:56,293 --> 01:05:58,893
Speaker 2: what you say about New Zealand. There is always a

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01:05:58,933 --> 01:05:59,773
Speaker 2: bit of weather about.

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Speaker 3: We love saying that phrase.

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01:06:01,453 --> 01:06:03,893
Speaker 2: Does that make it the worst weather in the world. Yeah,

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01:06:03,973 --> 01:06:05,813
Speaker 2: I don't know. And also what's good and bad? Like

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01:06:06,253 --> 01:06:09,133
Speaker 2: you know, I've often been jealous of that those states

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01:06:09,133 --> 01:06:10,973
Speaker 2: in America. I quite like the idea of it being

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01:06:11,013 --> 01:06:13,173
Speaker 2: snowed over and then you come into summer and it's

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01:06:13,173 --> 01:06:15,093
Speaker 2: really hot and you experience a couple of things. You

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01:06:15,173 --> 01:06:17,213
Speaker 2: might say that's freezing cold temperatures are the worst weather

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01:06:17,253 --> 01:06:19,533
Speaker 2: in the world, But they're interesting and they're dramatic and

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01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:21,973
Speaker 2: they're different and it's the rich test tapestry of life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I've got a couple of English mates and they

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01:06:25,093 --> 01:06:27,613
Speaker 3: live here now they've got their residency the citizens, I think,

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Speaker 3: and they love it here. But they kept talking about

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Speaker 3: if there was a day that we have here in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand like ninety percent of the time, if that

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01:06:33,973 --> 01:06:36,813
Speaker 3: day happened in England, the beer gardens would just be

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01:06:37,053 --> 01:06:40,173
Speaker 3: absolutely crammed with people. Even if it's a light dusting

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01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:42,253
Speaker 3: of rain. They'll still be crammed out saying this is

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01:06:42,253 --> 01:06:44,453
Speaker 3: the best day we've had a month's here in New Zealand.

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01:06:44,453 --> 01:06:45,893
Speaker 3: If it's a little bit of rain, no one's going

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01:06:45,933 --> 01:06:46,693
Speaker 3: to the beer gunner.

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01:06:46,813 --> 01:06:49,413
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I grew up in Dunedin and I feel

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01:06:49,453 --> 01:06:51,933
Speaker 2: like there was pro dunedan weather propaganda that I was

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01:06:51,973 --> 01:06:53,493
Speaker 2: under growing up because I thought I lived in a

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Speaker 2: tropical paradise. I just thought that we had the best

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Speaker 2: weather in the world and it was terrible in London

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01:06:58,853 --> 01:07:00,813
Speaker 2: and we were in New Zealand were basically a tropical country.

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01:07:00,853 --> 01:07:02,853
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I must have been climatized, and I

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01:07:03,013 --> 01:07:05,293
Speaker 2: was blown away when I moved to Auckland and found

1416
01:07:05,333 --> 01:07:08,573
Speaker 2: out that the duneedan weather substantially colder than now to

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01:07:08,613 --> 01:07:11,293
Speaker 2: be half the time, favorite city in the world, but

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Speaker 2: substantially colder than it needs to be from time to time.

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Speaker 3: Sue, how are you?

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Speaker 12: I'm fine?

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01:07:17,253 --> 01:07:19,973
Speaker 27: Thank you? Am I talking now? Tore?

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01:07:20,053 --> 01:07:22,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to hear weather. New Zealand has got

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01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:22,973
Speaker 3: the worse weather.

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01:07:23,853 --> 01:07:28,293
Speaker 27: Oh yeah, Well, my son is in southern Queensland on

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01:07:28,333 --> 01:07:31,293
Speaker 27: the coast, and I was talking to him a couple

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01:07:31,293 --> 01:07:35,213
Speaker 27: of days ago, and you know what the temperature was,

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01:07:36,213 --> 01:07:40,173
Speaker 27: thirty six degrees. Now, why would you want to bask

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01:07:40,253 --> 01:07:40,493
Speaker 27: in that?

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01:07:40,813 --> 01:07:41,653
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's not fun.

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01:07:41,773 --> 01:07:42,093
Speaker 22: Yeah.

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01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:44,133
Speaker 3: I mean, on one hand, you have frozen cats if

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01:07:44,173 --> 01:07:46,573
Speaker 3: you go outside in Canada, and then on the flip side,

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01:07:46,693 --> 01:07:48,733
Speaker 3: thirty six degrees where you can cook an egg on

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01:07:48,813 --> 01:07:51,293
Speaker 3: the bonnet. Neither of those things sound good to me.

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01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:52,933
Speaker 17: No.

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01:07:53,493 --> 01:07:55,773
Speaker 27: And the thing is it's going to get hot at

1437
01:07:55,813 --> 01:07:57,253
Speaker 27: what's it going to be in February?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good question. This will be the first summer

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01:08:00,533 --> 01:08:02,493
Speaker 3: that I lived in Auckland. But I've been told that

1440
01:08:02,573 --> 01:08:04,453
Speaker 3: it's going to get pretty crazy up here. Come fed

1441
01:08:04,653 --> 01:08:06,933
Speaker 3: and the humidity that's hard for me to get used to.

1442
01:08:06,973 --> 01:08:07,813
Speaker 3: I've got to be honest to you.

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01:08:09,133 --> 01:08:11,213
Speaker 27: Yeah, you going to get a heat pump.

1444
01:08:11,853 --> 01:08:14,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. Words, Thank you very much, Sue.

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01:08:14,893 --> 01:08:17,213
Speaker 2: If you look at the climate of New Zealand, you know,

1446
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:19,093
Speaker 2: I just looked it up on an American site and

1447
01:08:19,093 --> 01:08:22,013
Speaker 2: it says New Zealand has a large, largely temperate climate

1448
01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:25,333
Speaker 2: looking up on an American site, because it doesn't matter. Well,

1449
01:08:25,372 --> 01:08:28,093
Speaker 2: the far North has subtropical weather during summer, and the

1450
01:08:28,133 --> 01:08:30,253
Speaker 2: inline alpine areas of the South Island can be as

1451
01:08:30,293 --> 01:08:32,213
Speaker 2: cold as negteen. Most of the country lies close to

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01:08:32,253 --> 01:08:34,812
Speaker 2: the coast, which I mean the temperature. It's moderate with

1453
01:08:34,933 --> 01:08:38,452
Speaker 2: heavy rainfall but also abundant sunshine. Yeah, that sounds pretty

1454
01:08:38,452 --> 01:08:38,812
Speaker 2: good to me.

1455
01:08:38,973 --> 01:08:41,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, heck here, oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. Do

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01:08:42,053 --> 01:08:43,892
Speaker 3: we have the worst weather on the world, as this

1457
01:08:44,053 --> 01:08:46,572
Speaker 3: international pilot from some country told Matt.

1458
01:08:46,652 --> 01:08:48,333
Speaker 2: As the texts said on nine two nine two, don't

1459
01:08:48,333 --> 01:08:51,173
Speaker 2: forget Americans think the world consists of the USA and Canada.

1460
01:08:51,293 --> 01:08:54,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is eighteen minutes to three.

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01:08:55,253 --> 01:08:55,812
Speaker 11: It's done.

1462
01:08:55,812 --> 01:08:59,532
Speaker 4: You take on talk bag, Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons,

1463
01:08:59,692 --> 01:09:03,012
Speaker 4: have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

1464
01:09:03,013 --> 01:09:03,892
Speaker 11: They'd be so.

1465
01:09:04,093 --> 01:09:06,652
Speaker 3: Quarter to three? Do we have the worst weather in

1466
01:09:06,732 --> 01:09:07,173
Speaker 3: the world?

1467
01:09:07,253 --> 01:09:12,932
Speaker 10: Collein, My goodness, I can't believe we're talking about the weather.

1468
01:09:14,093 --> 01:09:17,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key with favorite topic, but specifically for me,

1469
01:09:17,652 --> 01:09:19,812
Speaker 2: because I was I was talking to an overseas pilot

1470
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:21,772
Speaker 2: and the overseas pilot told me we have the worst

1471
01:09:21,772 --> 01:09:25,053
Speaker 2: weather in the world. And it's only it's only been

1472
01:09:25,412 --> 01:09:27,612
Speaker 2: five weeks on talk back for me, and I'm already

1473
01:09:27,612 --> 01:09:28,253
Speaker 2: talking about the weather.

1474
01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:31,932
Speaker 10: That's what I mean. I mean, you know, it's trying

1475
01:09:31,973 --> 01:09:34,372
Speaker 10: to wake up the smell of coffee. I would say

1476
01:09:34,372 --> 01:09:35,213
Speaker 10: he's a Democrat.

1477
01:09:38,452 --> 01:09:40,253
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how many. I mean, he is

1478
01:09:40,293 --> 01:09:44,013
Speaker 2: in the Air Force, so.

1479
01:09:44,093 --> 01:09:49,013
Speaker 10: Whatever, they're everywhere, they're lurking, they are, they are.

1480
01:09:49,452 --> 01:09:50,732
Speaker 3: What's your take on, Colleen?

1481
01:09:52,293 --> 01:09:54,612
Speaker 2: Oh rubbish, Yeah, rubbish.

1482
01:09:55,053 --> 01:09:56,092
Speaker 24: It's rubbish.

1483
01:09:56,213 --> 01:09:56,892
Speaker 12: That's the end of it.

1484
01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:58,372
Speaker 10: That's all I've got to say on that. But I

1485
01:09:58,372 --> 01:10:00,253
Speaker 10: do have something to say on this thing about going

1486
01:10:00,293 --> 01:10:04,692
Speaker 10: to part Yes, I've got to get on because I can't.

1487
01:10:04,692 --> 01:10:07,853
Speaker 10: He's talking about the weather. I'm sitting here and absolutely

1488
01:10:07,893 --> 01:10:12,053
Speaker 10: teeming down and the curves of everything's just rushing with

1489
01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:13,093
Speaker 10: leave the water.

1490
01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:17,372
Speaker 3: Well let's talk about fleecing international tourists then, yeah, let's

1491
01:10:17,372 --> 01:10:17,732
Speaker 3: see that.

1492
01:10:18,732 --> 01:10:19,692
Speaker 10: It sounds better for me.

1493
01:10:20,692 --> 01:10:21,573
Speaker 28: I think.

1494
01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:25,532
Speaker 10: I actually think because of the state of our rate,

1495
01:10:25,652 --> 01:10:28,213
Speaker 10: because of our infrastructure. Now I'm going to get very deeper,

1496
01:10:28,293 --> 01:10:29,053
Speaker 10: meaningful here.

1497
01:10:29,133 --> 01:10:30,013
Speaker 24: So they bear with mac.

1498
01:10:31,853 --> 01:10:33,852
Speaker 10: We need to start paying for our stuff.

1499
01:10:33,893 --> 01:10:35,013
Speaker 5: Otherwise it all just.

1500
01:10:34,973 --> 01:10:37,772
Speaker 10: Gets pulled into our rates and then only the rate

1501
01:10:37,812 --> 01:10:42,972
Speaker 10: payers are paying for all these services. Otherwise they're taking

1502
01:10:43,013 --> 01:10:47,853
Speaker 10: it from our tax So again we're suffering a penalty.

1503
01:10:48,053 --> 01:10:50,452
Speaker 10: So if you want to go play down the park,

1504
01:10:51,053 --> 01:10:53,532
Speaker 10: and I don't know, get a license and shoot them

1505
01:10:53,612 --> 01:10:56,253
Speaker 10: there and have a good weekend campaign whatever you're doing

1506
01:10:56,293 --> 01:10:59,293
Speaker 10: down there. I think we should pay fifty percent and

1507
01:10:59,372 --> 01:11:03,372
Speaker 10: the tourist per Matt, how do.

1508
01:11:03,293 --> 01:11:05,373
Speaker 3: You feel about that.

1509
01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:08,932
Speaker 2: I think the touris should definitely pay more because, as

1510
01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:11,532
Speaker 2: you say, they're not playing tax and but but I

1511
01:11:11,572 --> 01:11:13,412
Speaker 2: personally think the key we shouldn't pay anything. And anything

1512
01:11:13,412 --> 01:11:15,253
Speaker 2: we were about to charge the key, we we should

1513
01:11:15,333 --> 01:11:17,692
Speaker 2: charge the overseas people if there's amount of money we need.

1514
01:11:18,133 --> 01:11:20,572
Speaker 2: I mean, what is doc's budget, you know how much?

1515
01:11:20,692 --> 01:11:22,652
Speaker 2: How much does DOC? What do they get?

1516
01:11:22,933 --> 01:11:24,532
Speaker 3: And I don't get much.

1517
01:11:26,213 --> 01:11:29,372
Speaker 10: I'm not I'm not knocking dock or you know, death.

1518
01:11:29,692 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 10: They've got a huge job on their hands. But I'm

1519
01:11:32,412 --> 01:11:38,732
Speaker 10: saying that there's too much. There's too much management. There's

1520
01:11:38,772 --> 01:11:44,812
Speaker 10: too many management people in these places taking salaries. I'm

1521
01:11:44,812 --> 01:11:47,772
Speaker 10: not saying they're not doing a job. But the country's

1522
01:11:47,772 --> 01:11:50,573
Speaker 10: infrastructure is completely stuff everywhere.

1523
01:11:50,853 --> 01:11:52,372
Speaker 29: Yeah, it's time.

1524
01:11:53,692 --> 01:11:55,253
Speaker 7: Nobody wants to up.

1525
01:11:55,572 --> 01:11:56,692
Speaker 3: Yep, it's not fair enough.

1526
01:11:56,692 --> 01:11:59,133
Speaker 2: The Department of Conversation was directed by the government to

1527
01:11:59,213 --> 01:12:03,213
Speaker 2: find savings of thirty one million per annum. So it's

1528
01:12:03,213 --> 01:12:05,692
Speaker 2: an interesting thing when a government department finds savings by

1529
01:12:05,933 --> 01:12:10,132
Speaker 2: charging New Zealanders to use their facilities that they went.

1530
01:12:09,973 --> 01:12:11,772
Speaker 3: Before A good point. Now you mentioned that, I.

1531
01:12:12,372 --> 01:12:14,532
Speaker 2: Mean, are you finding savings or are you just finding

1532
01:12:14,572 --> 01:12:17,652
Speaker 2: another way to get your tax base?

1533
01:12:17,772 --> 01:12:18,012
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1534
01:12:18,013 --> 01:12:18,852
Speaker 3: That changes it?

1535
01:12:19,053 --> 01:12:21,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so is that why? That's where it is.

1536
01:12:21,772 --> 01:12:24,492
Speaker 2: It's like, so, so what do.

1537
01:12:24,572 --> 01:12:26,852
Speaker 3: We say that at the start? That changes? I've cut

1538
01:12:26,893 --> 01:12:29,772
Speaker 3: the budget and then they want to fleece us for more. Yeah,

1539
01:12:29,772 --> 01:12:30,692
Speaker 3: I'm not paying anymore.

1540
01:12:30,812 --> 01:12:32,772
Speaker 2: You haven't made the if you haven't made efficiencies to

1541
01:12:33,492 --> 01:12:35,492
Speaker 2: drop that by thirty million. What you've done is just

1542
01:12:35,652 --> 01:12:38,732
Speaker 2: come up with an idea to to to indirectly tax us.

1543
01:12:39,173 --> 01:12:40,372
Speaker 3: Garth, how are you, mate?

1544
01:12:42,013 --> 01:12:42,333
Speaker 30: Close?

1545
01:12:42,652 --> 01:12:43,812
Speaker 3: Get a? What do you reckon?

1546
01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:46,492
Speaker 5: Am?

1547
01:12:46,492 --> 01:12:46,732
Speaker 24: I on?

1548
01:12:46,853 --> 01:12:47,053
Speaker 5: Ere?

1549
01:12:47,213 --> 01:12:49,612
Speaker 3: You certainly mate? This is your moment?

1550
01:12:49,973 --> 01:12:53,452
Speaker 17: I just I got I heard the last caller. I

1551
01:12:53,492 --> 01:12:55,772
Speaker 17: think it was the topic being weather.

1552
01:12:56,333 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1553
01:12:57,973 --> 01:13:00,012
Speaker 17: I'm up here in Orkland at the moment, just sitting

1554
01:13:00,013 --> 01:13:01,972
Speaker 17: in my car trying to lovely.

1555
01:13:02,013 --> 01:13:02,892
Speaker 2: Isn't it out of the rain?

1556
01:13:02,973 --> 01:13:05,732
Speaker 17: And it's just been constantly raining up here, which is Orkhand,

1557
01:13:05,772 --> 01:13:09,093
Speaker 17: which is from what I Yeah, from what I know

1558
01:13:09,173 --> 01:13:10,732
Speaker 17: Auckland is all I know is rain.

1559
01:13:12,213 --> 01:13:16,932
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, but no I grew up on Hawks Bay,

1560
01:13:17,093 --> 01:13:21,253
Speaker 30: so yeah, and traveled extensively sort of around New Zealand

1561
01:13:22,372 --> 01:13:22,932
Speaker 30: pretty much.

1562
01:13:22,973 --> 01:13:25,253
Speaker 17: And I think Orcan's probably got the most diabolical weather

1563
01:13:25,293 --> 01:13:26,253
Speaker 17: of the country, to be.

1564
01:13:26,173 --> 01:13:28,612
Speaker 2: Honest, even even over Wellington.

1565
01:13:30,452 --> 01:13:34,732
Speaker 31: Yeah, even over Wellington, which is pretty awful, but it's

1566
01:13:34,772 --> 01:13:38,492
Speaker 31: just it's just miserable in Auckland and it's sort of yeah,

1567
01:13:39,213 --> 01:13:41,333
Speaker 31: and I'm very much a person who likes to get

1568
01:13:41,372 --> 01:13:45,652
Speaker 31: around by foot, and you know, and walking in Orklansa,

1569
01:13:45,772 --> 01:13:46,213
Speaker 31: it's not a.

1570
01:13:46,173 --> 01:13:48,972
Speaker 5: Desirable city to be walking in, whether.

1571
01:13:48,812 --> 01:13:51,093
Speaker 17: You've got an umbrella or not. I guess Wellington is

1572
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:54,652
Speaker 17: not either. But saying that, I mean, I've also lived

1573
01:13:54,652 --> 01:13:58,132
Speaker 17: abroad in Europe and I think, you know, weather patterns,

1574
01:13:58,372 --> 01:14:00,892
Speaker 17: we've got a lot better than a lot of other

1575
01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:02,572
Speaker 17: countries in the world in my opinion.

1576
01:14:03,772 --> 01:14:06,452
Speaker 2: Well, I guess, I guess if you're from hawks Hawk's

1577
01:14:06,492 --> 01:14:08,892
Speaker 2: Bay originally, that's a pretty I mean, no one could

1578
01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:11,012
Speaker 2: say that that has the worst climate in the world.

1579
01:14:11,053 --> 01:14:11,532
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

1580
01:14:12,333 --> 01:14:15,173
Speaker 2: That is almost the perfect climate Hawk's Bay for me,

1581
01:14:15,333 --> 01:14:17,213
Speaker 2: if I was going to if I was going to

1582
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:19,932
Speaker 2: get what I want in the climate, notwithstanding when there's

1583
01:14:20,013 --> 01:14:24,412
Speaker 2: hurricanes in a cyclone's coming through But apart from that, oh.

1584
01:14:24,452 --> 01:14:26,692
Speaker 17: Gets it gets very hot and dry down there. I

1585
01:14:26,692 --> 01:14:29,053
Speaker 17: mean even the humidity. Fact. I lived in Christis for

1586
01:14:29,093 --> 01:14:32,253
Speaker 17: six years and I found going up in Hawke's Bay

1587
01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:36,732
Speaker 17: living in christ Church only three years ago a very

1588
01:14:36,772 --> 01:14:39,732
Speaker 17: similar climate. I mean a lot of humidity in christ

1589
01:14:39,812 --> 01:14:42,132
Speaker 17: Church now in the summers it gets really really humid

1590
01:14:42,133 --> 01:14:43,532
Speaker 17: in the summers.

1591
01:14:43,333 --> 01:14:45,772
Speaker 3: As an Elson boy, I'd take your Hawk's Bay and

1592
01:14:46,452 --> 01:14:48,612
Speaker 3: presents you Nelson on the top of the South. It

1593
01:14:48,612 --> 01:14:50,812
Speaker 3: doesn't get better than that, surely. I mean, Hawk's Bay

1594
01:14:50,893 --> 01:14:52,532
Speaker 3: is pretty nice, but Nelson takes the cake.

1595
01:14:52,652 --> 01:14:55,972
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I just make comparison to I mean, I look,

1596
01:14:56,013 --> 01:15:01,133
Speaker 17: I lived in Europe for eleven years in Italy, but

1597
01:15:01,213 --> 01:15:02,892
Speaker 17: that was very much inland, in the sort of the

1598
01:15:02,893 --> 01:15:07,253
Speaker 17: north of Italy, and the climate over there it's just extremes.

1599
01:15:07,253 --> 01:15:08,133
Speaker 17: In the summers, you just.

1600
01:15:08,053 --> 01:15:11,012
Speaker 8: Get the is really very, very really humid.

1601
01:15:11,372 --> 01:15:14,253
Speaker 17: If you think Awkland humid, nothing like the humidity I've

1602
01:15:14,853 --> 01:15:19,092
Speaker 17: experienced in northern Italy. And it was basically that it's

1603
01:15:19,692 --> 01:15:22,293
Speaker 17: there a place called Corona, which is in the north

1604
01:15:22,293 --> 01:15:24,732
Speaker 17: of Italy and I live there, like I said, a

1605
01:15:24,772 --> 01:15:28,892
Speaker 17: number of years. But humidity fact just being it's basically

1606
01:15:28,933 --> 01:15:34,772
Speaker 17: trapped up against the mountains and you just not being

1607
01:15:34,772 --> 01:15:38,213
Speaker 17: near the ocean, which you know New Zealand, you're always

1608
01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:43,412
Speaker 17: you're pretty much initiative. And yeah, unfortunately live in Parmersan

1609
01:15:43,452 --> 01:15:48,652
Speaker 17: North or Hamilton or somewhere or and obviously around central

1610
01:15:48,772 --> 01:15:52,973
Speaker 17: the Central Plateau. But yeah, extreme hot, extreme heat in

1611
01:15:53,013 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 17: the summers. Really in the winter's very cold and humid

1612
01:15:55,893 --> 01:15:56,253
Speaker 17: as well.

1613
01:15:56,412 --> 01:15:59,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I think if you cool Garth. Yeah, we're talking

1614
01:15:59,133 --> 01:16:01,213
Speaker 2: about someone that came up to me, a pilot from

1615
01:16:01,253 --> 01:16:02,692
Speaker 2: overseas and see we've got the worst weather in the

1616
01:16:02,732 --> 01:16:07,133
Speaker 2: World's interesting something that gar said there about if you're

1617
01:16:07,173 --> 01:16:09,812
Speaker 2: from Dunedin when people say you that it's cold here,

1618
01:16:10,372 --> 01:16:12,213
Speaker 2: you go, but it doesn't rain nearly as much as

1619
01:16:12,253 --> 01:16:12,932
Speaker 2: it does in Auckland.

1620
01:16:13,133 --> 01:16:15,173
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, I don't know why you put up with

1621
01:16:15,213 --> 01:16:15,652
Speaker 3: it up here.

1622
01:16:15,692 --> 01:16:18,213
Speaker 2: The precipitation. There's a lot of precipitation. There's a lot

1623
01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:20,892
Speaker 2: of weather about in Auckland. As the pilots say, oh.

1624
01:16:20,772 --> 01:16:22,732
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

1625
01:16:22,812 --> 01:16:23,492
Speaker 3: It's eight to three.

1626
01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:27,412
Speaker 11: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1627
01:16:27,452 --> 01:16:28,093
Speaker 11: along the way.

1628
01:16:28,293 --> 01:16:31,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1629
01:16:31,853 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 1: four news Talk said be five to three.

1630
01:16:34,652 --> 01:16:37,412
Speaker 2: We were talking about tourists, international tourists and how I

1631
01:16:37,492 --> 01:16:39,852
Speaker 2: believe we need as operation fleece them. But I said

1632
01:16:39,853 --> 01:16:41,652
Speaker 2: it needs to be a secret operation. It can't get

1633
01:16:41,692 --> 01:16:44,333
Speaker 2: out there with the fleecing. So the tourists know they

1634
01:16:44,372 --> 01:16:46,892
Speaker 2: have to be welcomed with open arms. And then every man,

1635
01:16:46,933 --> 01:16:48,572
Speaker 2: warning child shouldry and take as much money off and

1636
01:16:48,612 --> 01:16:51,133
Speaker 2: they can for the good of your economy. This Texas

1637
01:16:51,213 --> 01:16:54,572
Speaker 2: sums up with the problem with that, you knuckleheads listening

1638
01:16:54,612 --> 01:16:57,293
Speaker 2: to the radio while driving my rental car in the rain.

1639
01:16:57,853 --> 01:17:00,532
Speaker 2: I am a tourist in New Zealand, arrived three weeks ago.

1640
01:17:00,612 --> 01:17:03,372
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell my friends not to come. Hotels, restaurants,

1641
01:17:03,372 --> 01:17:06,372
Speaker 2: car rentals are very expensive already, and you're telling us

1642
01:17:06,372 --> 01:17:09,852
Speaker 2: to We're telling people to fly even more. That was

1643
01:17:09,893 --> 01:17:13,333
Speaker 2: the problem with operations secret fleece the tourist. You should

1644
01:17:13,452 --> 01:17:15,612
Speaker 2: never said it on the biggest radio station in the country.

1645
01:17:15,732 --> 01:17:17,253
Speaker 2: It was bound to get out to the tourists. They

1646
01:17:17,293 --> 01:17:18,173
Speaker 2: were bound to find out.

1647
01:17:18,253 --> 01:17:20,093
Speaker 3: But dear tourists, you're inside the house now, so you're

1648
01:17:20,133 --> 01:17:21,812
Speaker 3: going to keep that secret. You know you're part of

1649
01:17:21,853 --> 01:17:23,492
Speaker 3: the crew now, so you know, just play the game,

1650
01:17:23,492 --> 01:17:24,452
Speaker 3: would you, Mark.

1651
01:17:24,452 --> 01:17:30,333
Speaker 2: Don't fleece Amar's he's in on operation super Fleece Mars.

1652
01:17:30,372 --> 01:17:31,172
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

1653
01:17:32,053 --> 01:17:34,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good man, Tyler. Hey, good show.

1654
01:17:34,412 --> 01:17:34,772
Speaker 17: Enjoy it.

1655
01:17:35,013 --> 01:17:37,093
Speaker 5: I just wanted to comment on the weather and this

1656
01:17:37,692 --> 01:17:39,052
Speaker 5: proposal for park charges.

1657
01:17:39,213 --> 01:17:41,013
Speaker 3: Yep, we'll only going to just quickly. Marc has only

1658
01:17:41,053 --> 01:17:41,772
Speaker 3: got about thirty.

1659
01:17:43,213 --> 01:17:45,092
Speaker 2: Crap crap, whether he's crap.

1660
01:17:44,853 --> 01:17:45,093
Speaker 5: What's that?

1661
01:17:46,213 --> 01:17:49,772
Speaker 32: Yeah, absolutely crap. I was overseas for twenty years. I'm

1662
01:17:49,772 --> 01:17:53,253
Speaker 32: a fisherman here and the weather's definitely crappy in New Zealand,

1663
01:17:53,532 --> 01:17:57,253
Speaker 32: no doubt about it, in terms of chirt or fishing days.

1664
01:17:57,253 --> 01:18:00,732
Speaker 32: To get compared with other countries in the world, Asia, Africa, Europe,

1665
01:18:00,732 --> 01:18:01,133
Speaker 32: et cetera.

1666
01:18:01,333 --> 01:18:02,612
Speaker 5: It's yeah.

1667
01:18:03,053 --> 01:18:05,253
Speaker 32: I mean, we're very proud of our country and our weather,

1668
01:18:05,293 --> 01:18:05,892
Speaker 32: but it sucks.

1669
01:18:06,053 --> 01:18:09,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you call marcuson on that a positive note.

1670
01:18:09,293 --> 01:18:11,572
Speaker 2: We'll we'll end up we'll finish the weather chat.

1671
01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:11,892
Speaker 9: Yep.

1672
01:18:12,772 --> 01:18:15,372
Speaker 2: I would say there's a lot of weather about in

1673
01:18:15,372 --> 01:18:17,372
Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's the pilots today that so I'd say it.

1674
01:18:17,572 --> 01:18:21,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice phrase. Right after three o'clock, we're gonna have

1675
01:18:21,173 --> 01:18:23,852
Speaker 3: new Zealander of the Week which we always look forward to.

1676
01:18:24,572 --> 01:18:28,892
Speaker 2: And also the top will tune two songs, one for me,

1677
01:18:28,933 --> 01:18:31,173
Speaker 2: one from Tyler. You vote on Oh I turned at

1678
01:18:31,213 --> 01:18:32,772
Speaker 2: eighty teen eighty, Who's is the best?

1679
01:18:32,973 --> 01:18:35,572
Speaker 3: Nine nine two is the teach number? New Sport and

1680
01:18:35,692 --> 01:18:38,293
Speaker 3: Weather on its wave. We'll see on the other side

1681
01:18:38,333 --> 01:18:39,052
Speaker 3: of three.

1682
01:18:38,853 --> 01:18:47,492
Speaker 4: O'clock your new home for insightful and enter teening talk.

1683
01:18:47,612 --> 01:18:51,773
Speaker 4: It's Maddie and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News.

1684
01:18:51,532 --> 01:18:55,692
Speaker 3: Talk Sebby Good afternoon, Happy Friday, Welcome back into the

1685
01:18:55,692 --> 01:18:57,613
Speaker 3: show for our last hour.

1686
01:18:57,772 --> 01:19:00,133
Speaker 2: And that's my favorite hour of the week on Met

1687
01:19:00,133 --> 01:19:03,173
Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons on News Talk s EDB because we

1688
01:19:03,412 --> 01:19:07,133
Speaker 2: announce the new Zealander of the Week coming up next,

1689
01:19:07,173 --> 01:19:09,852
Speaker 2: and we have a top call tunes as well. I'll

1690
01:19:09,893 --> 01:19:12,213
Speaker 2: play a tune on a topic Tyler plaid tune on

1691
01:19:12,213 --> 01:19:14,572
Speaker 2: the topic oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1692
01:19:14,812 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 2: first of three wins. I'm currently sitting five to one up.

1693
01:19:17,452 --> 01:19:18,532
Speaker 2: I believe what do you mean?

1694
01:19:18,612 --> 01:19:19,092
Speaker 3: I believe?

1695
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:19,532
Speaker 22: You know?

1696
01:19:19,692 --> 01:19:21,612
Speaker 3: For wow, you've got the whee teally there, but yeah,

1697
01:19:21,732 --> 01:19:23,892
Speaker 3: very much, I believe very much. Looking forward to that

1698
01:19:23,973 --> 01:19:27,852
Speaker 3: now before we get there. I want to talk about printers.

1699
01:19:27,893 --> 01:19:29,372
Speaker 3: And I so want to talk about printers because I

1700
01:19:29,412 --> 01:19:32,173
Speaker 3: heard Mike Costkins show this morning and it wasn't meant

1701
01:19:32,173 --> 01:19:33,452
Speaker 3: to be part of the show. I could tell that,

1702
01:19:33,532 --> 01:19:34,933
Speaker 3: but it was coming out of an air break and

1703
01:19:34,933 --> 01:19:38,612
Speaker 3: you just hear Mike muttering and screaming under his breath,

1704
01:19:38,652 --> 01:19:40,532
Speaker 3: and I think Glenn has produced. He had to say, Mike,

1705
01:19:40,572 --> 01:19:42,133
Speaker 3: you get a show to do, will you stop mucking

1706
01:19:42,133 --> 01:19:44,933
Speaker 3: around with that printer? And he was so angry. He

1707
01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:47,053
Speaker 3: was angry at the printer. He was smacking the thing.

1708
01:19:47,093 --> 01:19:49,293
Speaker 3: He was angry at his producer Sam, who had come

1709
01:19:49,333 --> 01:19:51,452
Speaker 3: in to try and fix the printer for Mike. But

1710
01:19:51,532 --> 01:19:53,852
Speaker 3: it had me thinking as I heard Mike yelling at

1711
01:19:53,853 --> 01:19:56,892
Speaker 3: the printer, I thought, go Mike, because I hate printers

1712
01:19:56,893 --> 01:19:57,532
Speaker 3: with a vengeance.

1713
01:19:57,772 --> 01:19:57,972
Speaker 24: Right.

1714
01:19:58,133 --> 01:20:00,812
Speaker 3: They are the worst appliance, not just in the office

1715
01:20:00,893 --> 01:20:03,812
Speaker 3: of all time. I swear Hewlett Packard and Brother they

1716
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:06,652
Speaker 3: designed these things just to muck around with humanity.

1717
01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:08,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking when you were say this before

1718
01:20:09,013 --> 01:20:11,213
Speaker 2: over a coffee, I was thinking, is there any more

1719
01:20:11,253 --> 01:20:14,892
Speaker 2: appliance that's more consistently annoying than a printer? In terms

1720
01:20:14,973 --> 01:20:19,093
Speaker 2: of the ink running out paper, running out the communication.

1721
01:20:19,612 --> 01:20:21,812
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been working at this company z ME

1722
01:20:21,973 --> 01:20:24,732
Speaker 2: for a long time, well over a decade, and I

1723
01:20:24,812 --> 01:20:27,213
Speaker 2: still have no access to any printing here. And when

1724
01:20:27,253 --> 01:20:29,133
Speaker 2: I moved up to ZB, I said, can I get

1725
01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:30,732
Speaker 2: some access? They're still trying to get me access to

1726
01:20:30,812 --> 01:20:34,412
Speaker 2: that printer there that was driving Mike crazy this morning.

1727
01:20:34,933 --> 01:20:37,492
Speaker 2: Printers that I cannot think. I wonder if anyone else

1728
01:20:37,492 --> 01:20:39,333
Speaker 2: out there nineteen nine two eight hundred and eighty ten

1729
01:20:39,412 --> 01:20:43,133
Speaker 2: eighty is there another appliance that is regularly used that

1730
01:20:43,253 --> 01:20:46,772
Speaker 2: is so incredibly annoying. And I actually read this thing

1731
01:20:46,812 --> 01:20:49,492
Speaker 2: that will drive you crazy about printers. So there's a

1732
01:20:49,492 --> 01:20:51,253
Speaker 2: certain brand of printer. I won't say who they are,

1733
01:20:51,293 --> 01:20:53,612
Speaker 2: but this happens a lot across the board where there's

1734
01:20:53,612 --> 01:20:56,572
Speaker 2: two prices of printer. Yep, they've actually got the exact

1735
01:20:56,652 --> 01:21:00,172
Speaker 2: same tech, except for the cheaper one has an additional

1736
01:21:00,293 --> 01:21:03,052
Speaker 2: chip added to it that slows it down, so they're

1737
01:21:03,133 --> 01:21:05,932
Speaker 2: just as good. So you the actual the cheaper printer

1738
01:21:06,692 --> 01:21:09,572
Speaker 2: has actually got more in it because it is designed

1739
01:21:09,652 --> 01:21:11,372
Speaker 2: and they have to add to it to slow it down.

1740
01:21:11,372 --> 01:21:12,612
Speaker 2: So there's two prices of printer.

1741
01:21:12,812 --> 01:21:15,092
Speaker 3: See that is dirty cartel behavior.

1742
01:21:15,133 --> 01:21:18,012
Speaker 2: That's the kind of dirty operation that printers are running.

1743
01:21:18,213 --> 01:21:19,772
Speaker 3: And what is it with the price of ink? Where

1744
01:21:19,772 --> 01:21:22,372
Speaker 3: does this inc come from? Are they hand squeezing octopi

1745
01:21:22,652 --> 01:21:24,692
Speaker 3: in the North Atlantic or something? I don't understand.

1746
01:21:24,812 --> 01:21:28,412
Speaker 2: Well, buddy, it's the same operation. It's the same operation

1747
01:21:28,492 --> 01:21:33,572
Speaker 2: that drug dealers use, big Raiser uses, and the printer's used.

1748
01:21:33,572 --> 01:21:35,452
Speaker 2: They get your hot to the handle and then they

1749
01:21:35,532 --> 01:21:36,692
Speaker 2: charge your heaps for the blades.

1750
01:21:36,772 --> 01:21:38,412
Speaker 3: That's exactly it. I put them up there with this

1751
01:21:38,532 --> 01:21:41,293
Speaker 3: and the lower cartael these ink cartails evil men, the.

1752
01:21:41,253 --> 01:21:44,053
Speaker 2: Same the drug dealers. The first the first hurt is

1753
01:21:44,093 --> 01:21:46,692
Speaker 2: free or cheap, and then it gets a lot to speak,

1754
01:21:47,452 --> 01:21:50,492
Speaker 2: more expensive, so you know, by the printer, and then

1755
01:21:50,572 --> 01:21:52,772
Speaker 2: keep paying with for the ink through the nose forever.

1756
01:21:53,213 --> 01:21:55,692
Speaker 2: So yeah, is there is there a worse Is there

1757
01:21:55,692 --> 01:21:58,972
Speaker 2: a worse suppliance out there than the printer? I seriously

1758
01:21:59,173 --> 01:22:02,892
Speaker 2: can't think of one that infuriates me more. Potentially ear

1759
01:22:02,973 --> 01:22:05,293
Speaker 2: drop on phones on high phones.

1760
01:22:05,372 --> 01:22:06,412
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's pretty awful.

1761
01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:09,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the communication between want one thing and another.

1762
01:22:09,532 --> 01:22:11,452
Speaker 3: That never works the way that you think it's gonna work.

1763
01:22:11,452 --> 01:22:14,452
Speaker 3: If you watched that movie Office Space, Yeah, you know

1764
01:22:14,732 --> 01:22:17,812
Speaker 3: the scene when they all get in and they finally

1765
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,213
Speaker 3: get the printer and they take it out to a

1766
01:22:19,213 --> 01:22:21,133
Speaker 3: field and they get the baseball bats and just go

1767
01:22:21,333 --> 01:22:24,852
Speaker 3: to town on this printer. I dream about that scene

1768
01:22:24,893 --> 01:22:26,972
Speaker 3: that to me, I might go half with Mike Coskin

1769
01:22:27,093 --> 01:22:29,053
Speaker 3: smash that printer. Now, Idar, maybe I will have We

1770
01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:30,012
Speaker 3: got baseball bats.

1771
01:22:29,812 --> 01:22:31,293
Speaker 2: In here asking how to go, and he worked it

1772
01:22:31,333 --> 01:22:34,892
Speaker 2: over this morning we finish it off. It's been weakened

1773
01:22:34,973 --> 01:22:35,253
Speaker 2: up for.

1774
01:22:35,213 --> 01:22:37,772
Speaker 3: You, right all right, oh, eight one hundred eighty t

1775
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:40,012
Speaker 3: and eighty. We might get the video rolling on that one. Andrew,

1776
01:22:40,053 --> 01:22:42,412
Speaker 3: we'll find a baseball bat and go to town. Our

1777
01:22:42,492 --> 01:22:45,133
Speaker 3: printer's the worst office appli It's nine two nine two

1778
01:22:45,253 --> 01:22:47,532
Speaker 3: is the text number. But right now it is ten

1779
01:22:47,612 --> 01:22:48,573
Speaker 3: past three.

1780
01:22:49,452 --> 01:22:49,812
Speaker 11: Zib By.

1781
01:22:52,692 --> 01:22:55,412
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on news Talk

1782
01:22:55,492 --> 01:22:58,012
Speaker 2: zid B, we name the New Zealander of the Week,

1783
01:22:58,492 --> 01:23:00,652
Speaker 2: an honor that we bestow on your behalf to a

1784
01:23:00,692 --> 01:23:03,612
Speaker 2: newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on our great

1785
01:23:03,612 --> 01:23:06,972
Speaker 2: and beautiful nation over the previous seven days. As always,

1786
01:23:06,973 --> 01:23:10,532
Speaker 2: there'll be three nominees, only one winner. And remember, like

1787
01:23:10,612 --> 01:23:12,972
Speaker 2: the Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealander

1788
01:23:12,973 --> 01:23:15,452
Speaker 2: of the Week isn't always an agent of good, So

1789
01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:19,133
Speaker 2: without further ado, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons

1790
01:23:19,173 --> 01:23:24,093
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week are nominee one, with Coleplantown

1791
01:23:24,253 --> 01:23:26,973
Speaker 2: and frontman Chris Martin ripping up the stage to one

1792
01:23:27,053 --> 01:23:30,173
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand people this week, lest we forget,

1793
01:23:30,173 --> 01:23:34,173
Speaker 2: another fantastic performance at Edon Park for taking eleven wickets

1794
01:23:34,293 --> 01:23:36,253
Speaker 2: and you're man of the match performance to help New

1795
01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:39,173
Speaker 2: Zealand win the Second Test against South Africa by nine

1796
01:23:39,213 --> 01:23:42,772
Speaker 2: wickets in two thousand and four. Black Caps fast bowler

1797
01:23:43,133 --> 01:23:46,612
Speaker 2: and og Chris Martin, you are nominated for New Zealander

1798
01:23:46,612 --> 01:23:51,213
Speaker 2: of the Week. Who nominee two. They're calling it quits

1799
01:23:51,253 --> 01:23:54,012
Speaker 2: after nearly forty years and going on tour one last

1800
01:23:54,013 --> 01:23:57,732
Speaker 2: time with hits like Run, Pacify and Home Again our

1801
01:23:57,853 --> 01:24:01,053
Speaker 2: unofficial national anthem. They have burnt their songs into our

1802
01:24:01,133 --> 01:24:05,492
Speaker 2: collective consciousness. They're fantastic. We're gonna miss them. She hard.

1803
01:24:05,532 --> 01:24:08,692
Speaker 2: You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Yes,

1804
01:24:09,213 --> 01:24:13,772
Speaker 2: but there can be only one and the winner is

1805
01:24:14,572 --> 01:24:18,372
Speaker 2: this is huge, Okay, I hope everyone's ready for this.

1806
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:23,213
Speaker 2: For having more pace than professional footballers, for the most

1807
01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:26,372
Speaker 2: feel good field invasion in years, and for loving your

1808
01:24:26,372 --> 01:24:28,572
Speaker 2: owners so much you wanted to go to work with her.

1809
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:33,012
Speaker 2: Captain of the Wellington Woman's Phoenix football team, Annalie Longo's

1810
01:24:33,093 --> 01:24:38,133
Speaker 2: dog Tiger, whoop you are? Matt and Tyler Afternoons New

1811
01:24:38,253 --> 01:24:45,213
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week Adam Tiger? Good dog? Who good doggy?

1812
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:45,612
Speaker 29: Tiger?

1813
01:24:45,652 --> 01:24:46,532
Speaker 2: Who's a good boarder?

1814
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:09,452
Speaker 3: And they are all shorts of I is trying to

1815
01:25:09,612 --> 01:25:14,293
Speaker 3: tempt the canine. I think I'm.

1816
01:25:15,812 --> 01:25:20,253
Speaker 2: Hard and long Ago reunited with her poach.

1817
01:25:25,812 --> 01:25:27,772
Speaker 3: This is indeed the best league in the world.

1818
01:25:30,133 --> 01:25:34,133
Speaker 2: It's the biggest topic in the country Right now. My

1819
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:37,732
Speaker 2: costumes printer, which sits beside Tyler, is not working properly.

1820
01:25:38,893 --> 01:25:40,492
Speaker 2: Mike had to go. He tried to smash it out

1821
01:25:40,532 --> 01:25:43,372
Speaker 2: this morning. Tyler's asked the question, is the printer the

1822
01:25:43,412 --> 01:25:45,652
Speaker 2: most annoying appliance in the world? Can you think of

1823
01:25:45,692 --> 01:25:47,532
Speaker 2: another one? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty?

1824
01:25:47,933 --> 01:25:51,612
Speaker 3: It is big news, It is Sean. What do you reckon?

1825
01:25:53,053 --> 01:25:53,612
Speaker 5: Ye mate?

1826
01:25:53,612 --> 01:25:54,372
Speaker 15: He just quickly.

1827
01:25:54,612 --> 01:25:57,093
Speaker 19: Marto would have been my New Zylander of the week

1828
01:25:57,133 --> 01:26:01,012
Speaker 19: without a doubt. Just to love a professional athlete, they'd

1829
01:26:01,013 --> 01:26:05,972
Speaker 19: still like to have a sneaky cigarette every so often. Yeah,

1830
01:26:06,053 --> 01:26:08,572
Speaker 19: that's true, true legend Old christ Man.

1831
01:26:09,133 --> 01:26:12,732
Speaker 2: Yeah he was, he was nominated. He was unlucky, wasn't he.

1832
01:26:13,853 --> 01:26:15,333
Speaker 19: Yeah, he was very unlucky.

1833
01:26:15,372 --> 01:26:15,812
Speaker 33: There you go.

1834
01:26:18,933 --> 01:26:20,893
Speaker 19: Yeah, my printer drives me nuts.

1835
01:26:21,133 --> 01:26:21,532
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1836
01:26:21,572 --> 01:26:23,612
Speaker 19: It's got a mind of its own. Sometimes, you know,

1837
01:26:23,732 --> 01:26:26,333
Speaker 19: you set the folds up and it's supposed to print

1838
01:26:26,333 --> 01:26:29,532
Speaker 19: both sides and every side. Often it decides you flick

1839
01:26:29,612 --> 01:26:33,732
Speaker 19: the button the printed twenty past and only printed on

1840
01:26:33,732 --> 01:26:36,652
Speaker 19: one side, and drive you that, and I've just wasted

1841
01:26:36,692 --> 01:26:39,692
Speaker 19: another keen pieces of paper. And then and then it

1842
01:26:39,812 --> 01:26:42,692
Speaker 19: decides to go to sleep and won't won't connect to

1843
01:26:42,812 --> 01:26:45,572
Speaker 19: your y. You push the print button and it won't print.

1844
01:26:45,772 --> 01:26:48,892
Speaker 19: You've got to shut everything down. And but he rebooted.

1845
01:26:49,053 --> 01:26:54,092
Speaker 19: But hey, you guys, you'll know the movie The Castle.

1846
01:26:55,293 --> 01:26:57,492
Speaker 2: What a movie, great movie.

1847
01:26:57,812 --> 01:27:02,092
Speaker 19: One of the best movies of all time. My coffee

1848
01:27:02,093 --> 01:27:03,492
Speaker 19: went straight to the poor room.

1849
01:27:03,333 --> 01:27:07,732
Speaker 15: Of course. But but there's a there's.

1850
01:27:07,492 --> 01:27:11,732
Speaker 19: A scene and there were the lawyer Denis Denudo is

1851
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:17,253
Speaker 19: having an absolute patty with his printers, breaking living crappy

1852
01:27:17,293 --> 01:27:20,173
Speaker 19: out of it. And every time I'm having problems with

1853
01:27:20,253 --> 01:27:22,173
Speaker 19: my printer. I think about Dennis.

1854
01:27:24,133 --> 01:27:26,173
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, God, that's a great movie. I've got

1855
01:27:26,173 --> 01:27:27,772
Speaker 2: to watch it again. I don't think i've watched my

1856
01:27:29,133 --> 01:27:31,333
Speaker 2: shown that to my kids. This is turning into a

1857
01:27:31,372 --> 01:27:33,892
Speaker 2: printer therapy session. Someone else, I throw it out. There

1858
01:27:34,013 --> 01:27:36,372
Speaker 2: Is there a more annoying appliance. It's not technically an appliance,

1859
01:27:36,372 --> 01:27:39,052
Speaker 2: but staplers are pretty god damn annoying.

1860
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:41,293
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they do my headden. Yeah, Or if you

1861
01:27:41,333 --> 01:27:43,053
Speaker 3: get the wrong staple, or it gets stuck and you

1862
01:27:43,053 --> 01:27:44,492
Speaker 3: gotta wedget out, and then you gotta find a pair

1863
01:27:44,492 --> 01:27:44,932
Speaker 3: of scissors.

1864
01:27:45,973 --> 01:27:47,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're terrible, terrible things.

1865
01:27:48,013 --> 01:27:50,372
Speaker 3: So Andre, how are you fine?

1866
01:27:50,412 --> 01:27:50,772
Speaker 34: Thank you?

1867
01:27:51,213 --> 01:27:53,093
Speaker 3: Are you a fan of the printers?

1868
01:27:55,213 --> 01:27:58,133
Speaker 34: I'm not for you, but I'm the thing that the

1869
01:27:58,173 --> 01:28:00,173
Speaker 34: most annoys me as a paper shredder.

1870
01:28:00,173 --> 01:28:02,653
Speaker 3: Paper shredder, what have you got against paper shredders?

1871
01:28:04,893 --> 01:28:08,172
Speaker 34: I say, you can spread like eight to ten pages

1872
01:28:08,372 --> 01:28:10,372
Speaker 34: in the sreder. So you do it, and you've saddled

1873
01:28:10,372 --> 01:28:13,372
Speaker 34: along really good, norvous Sadden, it's jamed, and you find

1874
01:28:13,412 --> 01:28:16,133
Speaker 34: you've got about twenty pages jammed inside.

1875
01:28:16,372 --> 01:28:17,892
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, You're not wrong.

1876
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:20,013
Speaker 2: The irs is arriving at your house and you're just

1877
01:28:20,013 --> 01:28:22,893
Speaker 2: trying to shed everything before they turn up, and you

1878
01:28:22,933 --> 01:28:24,452
Speaker 2: can't get more than eight through at a time.

1879
01:28:28,053 --> 01:28:28,293
Speaker 33: Yeah.

1880
01:28:28,452 --> 01:28:31,052
Speaker 34: So it was a good subject that because something Sny

1881
01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:33,612
Speaker 34: listened to the radio's reading papers?

1882
01:28:35,133 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 3: What a how do you have? Why do you have

1883
01:28:37,333 --> 01:28:39,052
Speaker 3: to Why do you have to read so much paper?

1884
01:28:41,412 --> 01:28:42,093
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1885
01:28:42,253 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 34: Just documents from the past?

1886
01:28:44,893 --> 01:28:46,133
Speaker 6: You don't want?

1887
01:28:46,412 --> 01:28:48,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, up to you. Thanks so much for you call

1888
01:28:48,853 --> 01:28:50,812
Speaker 2: Sandra quick couple of texts.

1889
01:28:50,853 --> 01:28:51,053
Speaker 23: Tier.

1890
01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:53,253
Speaker 3: The only thing that has broken more than a printer

1891
01:28:53,372 --> 01:28:54,972
Speaker 3: is the ice cream machine a McDonald's.

1892
01:28:54,973 --> 01:28:57,852
Speaker 2: I mean, that's become a thing. That is the What

1893
01:28:57,933 --> 01:29:01,053
Speaker 2: is it with the ice cream machine that McDonald's. Yeah,

1894
01:29:00,452 --> 01:29:01,892
Speaker 2: it has problems.

1895
01:29:01,973 --> 01:29:04,012
Speaker 3: They just don't want to clean it, do they. That

1896
01:29:04,293 --> 01:29:07,293
Speaker 3: is the suspicion. That is the conspiracy theory. Then it's

1897
01:29:07,333 --> 01:29:09,492
Speaker 3: not working because I just cleaned the bloody thing and

1898
01:29:09,492 --> 01:29:11,893
Speaker 3: they don't want to clean it again. Oh really apparently?

1899
01:29:12,053 --> 01:29:14,732
Speaker 2: So I see so because I guess you would have

1900
01:29:14,772 --> 01:29:16,132
Speaker 2: to clean it a lot because it would get disgusting,

1901
01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:17,892
Speaker 2: wouldn't if you didn't clean it. And so as soon

1902
01:29:17,893 --> 01:29:19,772
Speaker 2: as you put another ice cream through it, it's when we

1903
01:29:20,013 --> 01:29:21,572
Speaker 2: coming to the end of the shift or something. Then

1904
01:29:21,612 --> 01:29:22,492
Speaker 2: you'll have to clean it again.

1905
01:29:22,532 --> 01:29:25,053
Speaker 3: Smart move. If you work at McDonald's, that is that

1906
01:29:25,133 --> 01:29:26,732
Speaker 3: the case that you don't want to clean the thing

1907
01:29:26,772 --> 01:29:29,053
Speaker 3: against you say, oh, it's broken, oh hundred eight.

1908
01:29:29,253 --> 01:29:31,932
Speaker 2: Everything else at McDonald's is so efficient it seems crazy

1909
01:29:31,933 --> 01:29:35,412
Speaker 2: that there's one one thing they've got that keeps breaking down.

1910
01:29:36,772 --> 01:29:38,452
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1911
01:29:38,612 --> 01:29:40,213
Speaker 3: It is twenty past.

1912
01:29:39,933 --> 01:29:48,293
Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1913
01:29:48,333 --> 01:29:51,572
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty On News Talk ZIB twenty two past three.

1914
01:29:51,692 --> 01:29:54,892
Speaker 2: We're talking about printers. Mike Costking, sheares a print with us.

1915
01:29:54,933 --> 01:29:56,852
Speaker 2: It's causing a lot of problems throughout the day. It's

1916
01:29:56,893 --> 01:29:59,333
Speaker 2: a huge issue across the country right now. Early is

1917
01:29:59,372 --> 01:30:01,652
Speaker 2: we're trying to go paperless, but the printer is holding

1918
01:30:01,692 --> 01:30:04,013
Speaker 2: on and it's causing a lot of problems. To get

1919
01:30:04,013 --> 01:30:06,612
Speaker 2: a lot of texts coming through. On ninety two, two, nine, nine,

1920
01:30:06,652 --> 01:30:09,293
Speaker 2: two and eight hundred eighty ten eighty, he is a text.

1921
01:30:10,133 --> 01:30:12,333
Speaker 2: The most annoying appliance in the world is the radio.

1922
01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:16,092
Speaker 2: When met Heat's on it. I love Tracy, I love Okay.

1923
01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:18,213
Speaker 2: That's my partner sticks in that three.

1924
01:30:18,213 --> 01:30:19,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, which she's a smart woman, Tracy isn't.

1925
01:30:20,772 --> 01:30:22,732
Speaker 2: That's a that's a trojan horse sticks.

1926
01:30:22,772 --> 01:30:24,492
Speaker 3: Now, Tyker, how are you?

1927
01:30:25,732 --> 01:30:26,173
Speaker 28: I'm good?

1928
01:30:26,213 --> 01:30:26,612
Speaker 35: Thank you?

1929
01:30:27,253 --> 01:30:29,412
Speaker 3: Printer. Are they the worst appliance in the.

1930
01:30:29,372 --> 01:30:33,572
Speaker 35: Office, Well, I would say they are one of the worst,

1931
01:30:33,612 --> 01:30:36,572
Speaker 35: but they're not the worst. They're just in my opinion,

1932
01:30:36,572 --> 01:30:39,532
Speaker 35: they're the worst, just solely because I don't see why

1933
01:30:39,572 --> 01:30:41,372
Speaker 35: I need Magenta.

1934
01:30:40,933 --> 01:30:43,813
Speaker 10: Ink to print an all black document.

1935
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:48,532
Speaker 2: On such a good point. It won't let you print.

1936
01:30:48,853 --> 01:30:50,612
Speaker 2: I'm never using any other colors. I just want.

1937
01:30:50,893 --> 01:30:51,932
Speaker 3: I just want black and white.

1938
01:30:51,973 --> 01:30:53,492
Speaker 2: That drives me crazy when I do that.

1939
01:30:53,772 --> 01:30:57,932
Speaker 3: Hang on, I just don't understand why they can't, you know, brother,

1940
01:30:58,013 --> 01:31:00,293
Speaker 3: for example, that's a good company. You know, there's been

1941
01:31:00,333 --> 01:31:03,093
Speaker 3: some other nefarious printer companies out there that I won't name,

1942
01:31:03,173 --> 01:31:05,093
Speaker 3: but come on, I mean, I just want to print

1943
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:06,132
Speaker 3: print in black and white.

1944
01:31:07,173 --> 01:31:07,652
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know.

1945
01:31:07,812 --> 01:31:11,692
Speaker 28: But you know what annoys me almost as much Staples.

1946
01:31:12,173 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 28: I know that they've been talking about before, But what

1947
01:31:15,053 --> 01:31:17,572
Speaker 28: I'm so annoyed about Staples is that when if you

1948
01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:20,972
Speaker 28: run out, you can never find the right size staple.

1949
01:31:21,213 --> 01:31:24,333
Speaker 28: There's always too small or tubaic and you're like, hmm,

1950
01:31:24,333 --> 01:31:26,772
Speaker 28: I think I've got just the right size for most

1951
01:31:26,772 --> 01:31:29,772
Speaker 28: stapless and then you come home, you put the staples

1952
01:31:29,772 --> 01:31:32,093
Speaker 28: on the stapler and then you realize, oh no, I

1953
01:31:32,173 --> 01:31:35,012
Speaker 28: just raised fifteen dollars on the staplers that are two

1954
01:31:35,053 --> 01:31:36,733
Speaker 28: centimeters too small.

1955
01:31:36,853 --> 01:31:38,933
Speaker 3: You're speaking our language, tiger.

1956
01:31:38,732 --> 01:31:41,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you get like there's weird markings like a

1957
01:31:41,412 --> 01:31:44,693
Speaker 2: twenty six steps six or ten slash.

1958
01:31:44,333 --> 01:31:49,852
Speaker 3: Five universal staplers. I mean, come on, get with the program.

1959
01:31:49,973 --> 01:31:52,012
Speaker 3: Staple guns a good time though, Yeah, thank you, tiger.

1960
01:31:52,133 --> 01:31:57,812
Speaker 33: Don O'm not quite. It's more of a tall one

1961
01:31:57,812 --> 01:31:59,213
Speaker 33: than appliants. But we did it.

1962
01:31:59,973 --> 01:32:00,173
Speaker 5: You know.

1963
01:32:00,333 --> 01:32:03,932
Speaker 33: You you finally get them thread of that you use

1964
01:32:04,013 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 33: them as straight away the cord breaks to press the

1965
01:32:08,812 --> 01:32:12,092
Speaker 33: bottom down, you get the feed going.

1966
01:32:12,253 --> 01:32:13,212
Speaker 29: It doesn't work.

1967
01:32:14,572 --> 01:32:18,052
Speaker 33: Three times and then finally when you run out of cord,

1968
01:32:18,253 --> 01:32:19,852
Speaker 33: you're going to thread the things. Well, there must be

1969
01:32:19,893 --> 01:32:25,133
Speaker 33: a simpler way of designing the carousels that they go through.

1970
01:32:25,652 --> 01:32:27,572
Speaker 11: Just a nightmare, Yeah, I was.

1971
01:32:27,692 --> 01:32:30,253
Speaker 2: I was going through this just the other day with

1972
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:33,372
Speaker 2: the with the with the we eat a cord and

1973
01:32:33,412 --> 01:32:36,172
Speaker 2: it just kept breaking. It was driving me crazy.

1974
01:32:36,253 --> 01:32:38,133
Speaker 3: The line from that, but it's because don you want

1975
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:39,973
Speaker 3: to take out everything right when you line for me

1976
01:32:40,213 --> 01:32:41,892
Speaker 3: and there's a rock or something that gets in the way,

1977
01:32:42,013 --> 01:32:43,692
Speaker 3: just run the line from and through it and you're right.

1978
01:32:43,732 --> 01:32:45,213
Speaker 3: Then it takes the cord off and you think, what.

1979
01:32:45,452 --> 01:32:47,293
Speaker 2: Yeh, I was slamming it up against a bit of concrete,

1980
01:32:47,372 --> 01:32:48,372
Speaker 2: so it's probably my fault.

1981
01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:50,172
Speaker 3: Don That's a great one, Jonathan.

1982
01:32:50,213 --> 01:32:52,252
Speaker 18: How are you good?

1983
01:32:52,333 --> 01:32:55,333
Speaker 36: Up to you guys, and good thank you. Yeah, we're

1984
01:32:55,372 --> 01:32:57,412
Speaker 36: going to pay the print of its too. It does

1985
01:32:57,452 --> 01:33:00,052
Speaker 36: an amazing job because when you think about it, prints

1986
01:33:00,053 --> 01:33:02,972
Speaker 36: on the paper, what you see on your monitor black

1987
01:33:03,013 --> 01:33:06,053
Speaker 36: and white or color, and no matter how or mate

1988
01:33:06,133 --> 01:33:09,892
Speaker 36: or complex set is so and it produces that pretty

1989
01:33:09,933 --> 01:33:17,093
Speaker 36: much about, you know, in a replica. So I don't

1990
01:33:17,093 --> 01:33:19,452
Speaker 36: know what's going on in there, but it's obviously got

1991
01:33:19,732 --> 01:33:22,412
Speaker 36: some how it does that, I don't know, but it

1992
01:33:22,452 --> 01:33:25,812
Speaker 36: does it pretty well. But when it does decide to

1993
01:33:25,812 --> 01:33:28,973
Speaker 36: go fair, and it's possibly being mentioned already, it's the

1994
01:33:29,013 --> 01:33:33,093
Speaker 36: paper jam, and then it gives you an indication of

1995
01:33:33,213 --> 01:33:35,452
Speaker 36: where it is, and then you end up pulling out

1996
01:33:35,612 --> 01:33:39,973
Speaker 36: all the trays and then you've got to finger inside

1997
01:33:40,333 --> 01:33:43,092
Speaker 36: and not try and touch the drum because it's hot.

1998
01:33:43,973 --> 01:33:48,213
Speaker 36: And yeah, and I've been I've just walked away from

1999
01:33:48,253 --> 01:33:51,692
Speaker 36: it sometimes and said sorry, I can't help. So, yeah,

2000
01:33:51,692 --> 01:33:54,732
Speaker 36: it's the paper jam and you literally have to pull

2001
01:33:54,772 --> 01:33:56,732
Speaker 36: the whole thing apart try and find it. I still

2002
01:33:56,732 --> 01:34:00,093
Speaker 36: can't find anything. You pull all the trays back and

2003
01:34:00,133 --> 01:34:03,692
Speaker 36: then you haven't going to go and move paper jam

2004
01:34:03,893 --> 01:34:04,253
Speaker 36: play for.

2005
01:34:05,772 --> 01:34:07,732
Speaker 3: And you get the paper out, and then you close

2006
01:34:07,732 --> 01:34:09,412
Speaker 3: it all up and you think, good to go, and

2007
01:34:09,452 --> 01:34:11,173
Speaker 3: it's still saying there's a jam. There's not a jam.

2008
01:34:11,253 --> 01:34:15,333
Speaker 36: I've got the papers actually, and you've you've just built

2009
01:34:15,372 --> 01:34:20,172
Speaker 36: that in into the program just to you know, basically

2010
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:23,892
Speaker 36: wind you up, brother, and one other those one l if.

2011
01:34:23,893 --> 01:34:26,692
Speaker 36: I've got our little little little chip in there saying,

2012
01:34:27,013 --> 01:34:28,652
Speaker 36: you know, I'll just have a paper dream party.

2013
01:34:30,133 --> 01:34:32,133
Speaker 3: The more I think about it, Jonathan, the more I'm

2014
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:34,852
Speaker 3: adamant printers are just a social experiment to see how

2015
01:34:34,893 --> 01:34:37,293
Speaker 3: far humans will go before they just absolutely break and

2016
01:34:37,333 --> 01:34:37,852
Speaker 3: go postal.

2017
01:34:38,053 --> 01:34:40,772
Speaker 2: This is an interesting text here. Stapless staples are awesome

2018
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:43,092
Speaker 2: using the food industry. I've never heard of a stapless staple.

2019
01:34:43,213 --> 01:34:46,412
Speaker 2: How does the stapless staple work? Ye don't know what

2020
01:34:46,412 --> 01:34:48,492
Speaker 2: what are you stapling? If there's no staple? What? What

2021
01:34:48,492 --> 01:34:50,253
Speaker 2: what comes out of a stateless staple? This is this

2022
01:34:50,293 --> 01:34:51,213
Speaker 2: is peak my interest?

2023
01:34:51,412 --> 01:34:54,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to find this out Google that. Yeah, James,

2024
01:34:54,173 --> 01:34:54,652
Speaker 3: how are you?

2025
01:34:57,053 --> 01:35:00,372
Speaker 12: Yeah? The may of my life when I was working

2026
01:35:00,412 --> 01:35:05,333
Speaker 12: in the was the office copier, especially the digitally more

2027
01:35:05,412 --> 01:35:11,732
Speaker 12: modern digital ones with when you could you know, choose

2028
01:35:11,812 --> 01:35:18,732
Speaker 12: different you know, sort paper out, you know, I forget

2029
01:35:18,732 --> 01:35:22,293
Speaker 12: what they call it now, but trying to line up

2030
01:35:22,333 --> 01:35:25,293
Speaker 12: the bits of paper, the especially when you're trying to

2031
01:35:25,293 --> 01:35:29,092
Speaker 12: pay the copy of single page off off a book,

2032
01:35:29,692 --> 01:35:32,333
Speaker 12: you trying to line it up. And then you got

2033
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:35,932
Speaker 12: to into the office copy of code because they want

2034
01:35:35,933 --> 01:35:40,293
Speaker 12: to keep the shaker who's got the paper. And then

2035
01:35:40,692 --> 01:35:44,652
Speaker 12: much like printers, they paper jams too, and that's fun.

2036
01:35:45,412 --> 01:35:47,932
Speaker 3: And then scanners came along, James, and they weren't much

2037
01:35:47,933 --> 01:35:51,133
Speaker 3: better because they never scanned, you know, the right dimensions.

2038
01:35:51,133 --> 01:35:53,213
Speaker 3: There was always a little bit off center and it

2039
01:35:53,293 --> 01:35:58,372
Speaker 3: looked ugly. I'm with you, yep, James, you're a good man,

2040
01:35:58,412 --> 01:35:59,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

2041
01:35:59,732 --> 01:36:03,452
Speaker 2: The stapleless staple works by punching out tabs that get

2042
01:36:03,572 --> 01:36:09,173
Speaker 2: folded hanging on there's a stapleless The staple staple works

2043
01:36:09,173 --> 01:36:11,532
Speaker 2: by punching out tabs to get folded over and pushed

2044
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:13,892
Speaker 2: through a tiny slip. The device only works when fastening

2045
01:36:14,013 --> 01:36:16,932
Speaker 2: up to four sheets of paper. Anymore, in the stack

2046
01:36:16,973 --> 01:36:19,173
Speaker 2: of tabs is too thick for the stapler to push

2047
01:36:19,253 --> 01:36:25,093
Speaker 2: through the slip. Wow, a staple of stapler. I see

2048
01:36:25,093 --> 01:36:25,652
Speaker 2: how it works.

2049
01:36:25,853 --> 01:36:28,293
Speaker 3: It's a great tech. Yeah, I could see that being

2050
01:36:28,333 --> 01:36:31,412
Speaker 3: frustrating though. Why well, because if you've got six pages,

2051
01:36:31,452 --> 01:36:32,173
Speaker 3: then you bug it, don't you.

2052
01:36:32,812 --> 01:36:37,612
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, for for you six page enthusiasts, it's a

2053
01:36:37,652 --> 01:36:40,652
Speaker 2: problem people like me, they are unto four pages. We

2054
01:36:40,692 --> 01:36:41,812
Speaker 2: love the staples of stapler.

2055
01:36:41,973 --> 01:36:43,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, what does your head?

2056
01:36:43,213 --> 01:36:52,293
Speaker 29: The first of the song the Home of Weather chat

2057
01:36:52,333 --> 01:36:52,932
Speaker 29: back as well.

2058
01:36:54,452 --> 01:36:58,412
Speaker 2: I needed that thing I was missing missing. I was

2059
01:36:58,452 --> 01:37:00,213
Speaker 2: missing Jerry at that point.

2060
01:37:05,492 --> 01:37:05,692
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2061
01:37:05,853 --> 01:37:11,053
Speaker 29: So ink ink it's the first one problem, not the

2062
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:14,133
Speaker 29: sense that it's such a small problem that it shouldn't matter.

2063
01:37:14,173 --> 01:37:15,893
Speaker 29: It's the fact that the third world has got to

2064
01:37:15,973 --> 01:37:19,293
Speaker 29: fig it out. I worked there in India and there's

2065
01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:21,492
Speaker 29: an ink guy that comes around. You just call the

2066
01:37:21,572 --> 01:37:25,132
Speaker 29: ink guy and I might get head hunted by a bigger,

2067
01:37:25,293 --> 01:37:27,492
Speaker 29: big ink for letting this out. But yeah, and they

2068
01:37:27,572 --> 01:37:30,333
Speaker 29: just come around a little bottle and just squeeze it

2069
01:37:30,372 --> 01:37:32,772
Speaker 29: into the cartridge. You've got to just peel the sticker back,

2070
01:37:32,812 --> 01:37:34,452
Speaker 29: squeeze it and fill it up. If you pay them

2071
01:37:34,452 --> 01:37:37,412
Speaker 29: like a dollar, and you've got your ink done and

2072
01:37:37,452 --> 01:37:40,532
Speaker 29: away he goes. He's like a little little black market dealer.

2073
01:37:41,572 --> 01:37:45,412
Speaker 2: That's what we need opened the borders. When we're looking

2074
01:37:45,412 --> 01:37:47,812
Speaker 2: at immigration and who we want into the country. When

2075
01:37:47,893 --> 01:37:50,852
Speaker 2: we need to get the ink, the black market ink

2076
01:37:50,893 --> 01:37:51,572
Speaker 2: dealer isn't here.

2077
01:37:51,572 --> 01:37:58,493
Speaker 3: Put them on the green list, Redeka, How are you hello? Hello? Printers?

2078
01:37:58,572 --> 01:37:59,852
Speaker 3: Are they the bane of your life?

2079
01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:01,333
Speaker 16: Oh?

2080
01:38:01,452 --> 01:38:02,732
Speaker 7: Yes, I am a teacher.

2081
01:38:03,053 --> 01:38:04,013
Speaker 10: Tell me about it.

2082
01:38:05,532 --> 01:38:08,732
Speaker 37: Well, we actually ask for a special bild from the

2083
01:38:08,772 --> 01:38:11,333
Speaker 37: printer man so that they can teach us all the

2084
01:38:11,412 --> 01:38:14,572
Speaker 37: nooks and cranies and all the tricks, and of course

2085
01:38:14,572 --> 01:38:17,092
Speaker 37: you get it all next day, and then we're stack.

2086
01:38:18,812 --> 01:38:21,012
Speaker 38: We know all the trades. When the paper gets back

2087
01:38:21,772 --> 01:38:25,452
Speaker 38: to how to change the thing, from making booklets to

2088
01:38:25,652 --> 01:38:29,772
Speaker 38: stapling to everything I mean. And then after learning all that,

2089
01:38:30,173 --> 01:38:32,412
Speaker 38: they tell you all the printer's being upgraded, and we

2090
01:38:32,492 --> 01:38:35,293
Speaker 38: are like, we're going on strike if you're changing the

2091
01:38:35,372 --> 01:38:39,013
Speaker 38: printer turn out to opread it.

2092
01:38:40,173 --> 01:38:43,732
Speaker 37: Oh goodness, no, it's a scary thing, but we have

2093
01:38:43,853 --> 01:38:44,372
Speaker 37: to learn it.

2094
01:38:44,452 --> 01:38:46,053
Speaker 38: But once we learn it, we don't want to let

2095
01:38:46,133 --> 01:38:46,333
Speaker 38: it go.

2096
01:38:46,492 --> 01:38:48,173
Speaker 37: We don't want to upgrade at all.

2097
01:38:48,612 --> 01:38:50,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for you call Ridiculous Texas

2098
01:38:50,973 --> 01:38:53,012
Speaker 2: season nineteen nine two. The printer knows if the document

2099
01:38:53,133 --> 01:38:55,933
Speaker 2: is on a timeline or deadline, and then there's a

2100
01:38:55,933 --> 01:38:58,532
Speaker 2: special bressure of that. When the software won't work, it

2101
01:38:58,973 --> 01:39:02,133
Speaker 2: needs an update. That's true. A printer does know when

2102
01:39:02,213 --> 01:39:04,412
Speaker 2: you need it now. Yeah, when you need it soon,

2103
01:39:04,732 --> 01:39:06,093
Speaker 2: it knows, and it will not print it.

2104
01:39:06,732 --> 01:39:11,772
Speaker 18: Michael, how do you feel about Hey, guys, have you

2105
01:39:11,853 --> 01:39:14,932
Speaker 18: seen the movie The Castle sums up printers to a tea?

2106
01:39:15,253 --> 01:39:15,492
Speaker 35: Yeah?

2107
01:39:15,692 --> 01:39:18,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone did mention that before and you bang on

2108
01:39:18,173 --> 01:39:19,692
Speaker 3: the lawyer. What's the lawyer's name again?

2109
01:39:22,013 --> 01:39:24,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is one of that. If you

2110
01:39:24,293 --> 01:39:26,293
Speaker 2: haven't watched The Castle out there, I mean it's a

2111
01:39:26,412 --> 01:39:29,133
Speaker 2: film from nineteen ninety seven, but it holds up. It's

2112
01:39:29,173 --> 01:39:30,452
Speaker 2: one of the greatest films of all time.

2113
01:39:30,572 --> 01:39:32,572
Speaker 3: The Kerigans is that the name of the family. Garrel's

2114
01:39:32,652 --> 01:39:33,372
Speaker 3: the patriarch.

2115
01:39:33,572 --> 01:39:37,333
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's made by directed by Rob Search is

2116
01:39:37,372 --> 01:39:38,372
Speaker 2: just an absolute genius.

2117
01:39:39,732 --> 01:39:40,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, what.

2118
01:39:45,692 --> 01:39:50,693
Speaker 3: Asler? Great saying thank you Michael, and one more, Craig.

2119
01:39:52,133 --> 01:39:52,652
Speaker 5: Know how's the game?

2120
01:39:52,772 --> 01:39:52,972
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2121
01:39:53,053 --> 01:39:54,652
Speaker 3: Good office equipment talk to us.

2122
01:39:55,772 --> 01:39:57,412
Speaker 23: I used to work in it, and a lot of

2123
01:39:57,452 --> 01:39:59,612
Speaker 23: things would have been in my life, especially people uploading

2124
01:39:59,973 --> 01:40:02,892
Speaker 23: holiday photos and putting viruses under the server. That used

2125
01:40:02,893 --> 01:40:06,093
Speaker 23: to really are nice. But your printers were. We used

2126
01:40:06,093 --> 01:40:08,013
Speaker 23: to service them and they were quite interesting. You have

2127
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:09,692
Speaker 23: to get people will go it's not working, and you

2128
01:40:09,772 --> 01:40:11,253
Speaker 23: go and have a look at it, and yeah, but

2129
01:40:11,333 --> 01:40:13,293
Speaker 23: the worst one we ever had was a mechanic company

2130
01:40:13,372 --> 01:40:15,652
Speaker 23: in Hamilton here where they said the printer wasn't working,

2131
01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:16,772
Speaker 23: can you come and have a look. We'd have a

2132
01:40:16,853 --> 01:40:18,012
Speaker 23: go try and fix so we can't.

2133
01:40:17,812 --> 01:40:18,293
Speaker 5: Figure it up.

2134
01:40:18,692 --> 01:40:20,492
Speaker 23: So I turn up there and there's like a thousand

2135
01:40:20,572 --> 01:40:22,333
Speaker 23: pieces on the floor sitting in front of the printer

2136
01:40:22,412 --> 01:40:23,852
Speaker 23: with a guy who the spanar and book at that

2137
01:40:23,933 --> 01:40:26,532
Speaker 23: game no, and he goes, I tried to fix it

2138
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:28,893
Speaker 23: where all the parts go back, and I'm like, I

2139
01:40:29,053 --> 01:40:31,173
Speaker 23: just said to the guy, I think you really. But

2140
01:40:32,612 --> 01:40:34,852
Speaker 23: my bain was people who had a problem with the

2141
01:40:34,893 --> 01:40:37,293
Speaker 23: printer they decided to fix themselves, the old home handyman

2142
01:40:37,652 --> 01:40:39,652
Speaker 23: and you go, oh, just pull this out, pull that out,

2143
01:40:39,692 --> 01:40:42,652
Speaker 23: and then we turn up there and it's like I

2144
01:40:42,692 --> 01:40:44,692
Speaker 23: didn't even didn't even know that part came.

2145
01:40:44,572 --> 01:40:48,892
Speaker 2: Out, So what you're saying, Craig is the printers are fine,

2146
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:54,812
Speaker 2: but humans are idiots. No no, you're not saying that.

2147
01:40:55,093 --> 01:40:57,732
Speaker 23: No no, no, no, no no, I'm just saying people are.

2148
01:40:57,812 --> 01:41:00,093
Speaker 23: The printers have got i don't know, sort of sort

2149
01:41:00,093 --> 01:41:01,973
Speaker 23: of evil chips and or something like that. But the

2150
01:41:02,093 --> 01:41:03,932
Speaker 23: worst part is when you get people who think they

2151
01:41:04,013 --> 01:41:05,772
Speaker 23: know what they're doing and pull this thing apart to

2152
01:41:05,812 --> 01:41:09,732
Speaker 23: try and be helpful and cause a little more of

2153
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:11,972
Speaker 23: an issue. But yeah, I've had printers at home, even

2154
01:41:12,013 --> 01:41:14,293
Speaker 23: where it says like one of the countries empty, so

2155
01:41:14,333 --> 01:41:16,093
Speaker 23: I've changed the characters, put the whole thing back together,

2156
01:41:16,093 --> 01:41:17,852
Speaker 23: and you just about a print a page and it says, oh,

2157
01:41:18,013 --> 01:41:19,452
Speaker 23: now the one next sort of empty, and you're like.

2158
01:41:19,612 --> 01:41:23,412
Speaker 3: What the yeah, yeah, exactly very much right there.

2159
01:41:23,532 --> 01:41:26,812
Speaker 2: It wasn't Craig wasn't saying that printers are awesome and

2160
01:41:26,853 --> 01:41:27,492
Speaker 2: people are idiots.

2161
01:41:27,532 --> 01:41:27,892
Speaker 17: He wasn't.

2162
01:41:28,333 --> 01:41:30,572
Speaker 2: He kuind was was He wasn't.

2163
01:41:30,973 --> 01:41:32,932
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number

2164
01:41:32,933 --> 01:41:35,972
Speaker 3: to call it is twenty six minutes to four.

2165
01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:42,452
Speaker 11: You talk the headlines with.

2166
01:41:42,612 --> 01:41:45,652
Speaker 16: Blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2167
01:41:46,093 --> 01:41:49,372
Speaker 16: The two lawyers representing the christ Church Mosque shooter have

2168
01:41:49,532 --> 01:41:52,692
Speaker 16: been granted permanent name suppression in a first of its

2169
01:41:52,772 --> 01:41:56,972
Speaker 16: kind ruling in New Zealand. The Hikoi is continuing through

2170
01:41:57,213 --> 01:41:59,572
Speaker 16: route to do It to Hastings as it passes the

2171
01:41:59,652 --> 01:42:03,052
Speaker 16: halfway point. About ten thousand people have joined the march

2172
01:42:03,133 --> 01:42:07,893
Speaker 16: today protesting the Treaty Principal's Bill. The person infected with

2173
01:42:08,013 --> 01:42:11,893
Speaker 16: ME on Waheki Island has finished their isolation period and

2174
01:42:12,053 --> 01:42:15,692
Speaker 16: is now disease free. The order says close contacts have

2175
01:42:15,772 --> 01:42:19,412
Speaker 16: been identified and none of them have been infected. Two

2176
01:42:19,492 --> 01:42:23,652
Speaker 16: South Auckland women have been accused of shoplifting immediately after

2177
01:42:23,732 --> 01:42:27,012
Speaker 16: they left court where they had fronted on theft charges.

2178
01:42:27,492 --> 01:42:30,492
Speaker 16: Police alleged the eighteen and twenty nine year old tried

2179
01:42:30,532 --> 01:42:33,452
Speaker 16: stealing eighteen hundred dollars worth of goods from a shop

2180
01:42:33,732 --> 01:42:36,732
Speaker 16: as soon as they left book Akohe District Court on Tuesday.

2181
01:42:37,812 --> 01:42:40,932
Speaker 16: Heavy rain is making its way across the North Island today.

2182
01:42:41,333 --> 01:42:44,532
Speaker 16: Meat Services issued heavy rain warnings for Mount Taranaki, the

2183
01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:49,213
Speaker 16: Taradou and Eastern Bay of Plenty Rangers. Auckland's top sixty

2184
01:42:49,412 --> 01:42:53,253
Speaker 16: restaurants for twenty twenty four The best spots for dates

2185
01:42:53,333 --> 01:42:56,852
Speaker 16: groups and service. See the full list at Viva Premium.

2186
01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:59,012
Speaker 16: Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

2187
01:42:59,213 --> 01:43:00,532
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylene.

2188
01:43:01,013 --> 01:43:04,532
Speaker 2: Now, while I was talking to a producer before in

2189
01:43:04,612 --> 01:43:07,093
Speaker 2: our management in New Tyler and you were saying, could

2190
01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:09,013
Speaker 2: you you went to see Coplow you would you do

2191
01:43:09,093 --> 01:43:10,173
Speaker 2: a review of the concert?

2192
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:10,452
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2193
01:43:10,492 --> 01:43:10,772
Speaker 3: Please?

2194
01:43:10,893 --> 01:43:12,972
Speaker 2: And I said, no, I will not do that because

2195
01:43:12,973 --> 01:43:14,412
Speaker 2: I've already done it. I did it on the My

2196
01:43:14,572 --> 01:43:18,532
Speaker 2: Costing breakfast show yesterday, said and work smarter, not harder.

2197
01:43:19,293 --> 01:43:21,213
Speaker 2: I'm not going to double down and double hand on it,

2198
01:43:21,612 --> 01:43:23,692
Speaker 2: so I think. So I said, let's just play the

2199
01:43:23,732 --> 01:43:25,772
Speaker 2: one that I did with my costing. It's it's the

2200
01:43:25,853 --> 01:43:27,572
Speaker 2: perfect review of the concert.

2201
01:43:27,652 --> 01:43:30,013
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's have a listen, eh, what is your

2202
01:43:30,053 --> 01:43:30,972
Speaker 3: concert experience?

2203
01:43:31,013 --> 01:43:33,372
Speaker 2: How many concerts you reckon? You've been to? Roughly, I

2204
01:43:33,532 --> 01:43:37,173
Speaker 2: think I've been just thousands of concerts all over the world.

2205
01:43:37,293 --> 01:43:39,333
Speaker 2: I think you okay, so more than most.

2206
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:41,812
Speaker 13: Okay, So you got good cred as a concert Then

2207
01:43:41,853 --> 01:43:44,253
Speaker 13: from your thousands of concerts you've gone to, where would

2208
01:43:44,253 --> 01:43:44,892
Speaker 13: you rank this one?

2209
01:43:45,013 --> 01:43:46,933
Speaker 2: Having seen them for the first time? Look, before I

2210
01:43:47,013 --> 01:43:49,492
Speaker 2: went in there, you know I knew Coldplayer buts and

2211
01:43:49,692 --> 01:43:51,732
Speaker 2: I knew this songs, but I wasn't like an album listener,

2212
01:43:51,812 --> 01:43:54,052
Speaker 2: go to set snower kind of thing. And I always

2213
01:43:54,093 --> 01:43:57,972
Speaker 2: found Chris Martin flatly punishable, as you know, a talented band,

2214
01:43:58,053 --> 01:43:59,732
Speaker 2: but there was sort of a punishable vibe out of

2215
01:43:59,812 --> 01:44:02,812
Speaker 2: it around him. But after watching that concert, I'd follow

2216
01:44:02,853 --> 01:44:04,892
Speaker 2: that guy into battle. He's one of the greatest fun

2217
01:44:05,053 --> 01:44:08,172
Speaker 2: men I've ever seen. He's up there with Freddy Mercury

2218
01:44:08,452 --> 01:44:12,692
Speaker 2: and Mick Jagger. He's all dancing, all singing. Just the

2219
01:44:12,853 --> 01:44:16,893
Speaker 2: presence is quite phenomenal. How much would you pay? I

2220
01:44:17,093 --> 01:44:19,652
Speaker 2: was thinking about that, and I was also standing there

2221
01:44:19,692 --> 01:44:23,013
Speaker 2: thinking typical of me not to have paid, but I

2222
01:44:23,853 --> 01:44:25,772
Speaker 2: think it would be worse. I don't know how much

2223
01:44:25,772 --> 01:44:27,452
Speaker 2: of the ticket star because I never paid for tickets.

2224
01:44:27,612 --> 01:44:30,213
Speaker 24: I would say worth it would be worth four hundred dollars.

2225
01:44:30,652 --> 01:44:33,772
Speaker 13: Wow, I don't think they were worth four hundred dollars,

2226
01:44:33,933 --> 01:44:36,132
Speaker 13: don't I never pay for tickets.

2227
01:44:36,412 --> 01:44:38,652
Speaker 2: He lives in a different world from US folks, So.

2228
01:44:38,732 --> 01:44:39,692
Speaker 3: A couple of things there.

2229
01:44:39,772 --> 01:44:41,652
Speaker 2: I certainly do. I live in a different world from

2230
01:44:41,973 --> 01:44:43,772
Speaker 2: a much higher slon than my cost ging.

2231
01:44:44,173 --> 01:44:46,492
Speaker 3: So on the back of saying in that review that

2232
01:44:46,612 --> 01:44:50,892
Speaker 3: Chris Martin had a punishable vibe about him. The manager

2233
01:44:51,213 --> 01:44:52,772
Speaker 3: of Coldplay has got in touch with you.

2234
01:44:53,133 --> 01:44:56,692
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're adding an extra little bit there, Tyler.

2235
01:44:57,213 --> 01:44:59,852
Speaker 2: The management of Coldplay have gotten in touch with me

2236
01:44:59,933 --> 01:45:02,812
Speaker 2: after that interview, because you know that's a truncated version

2237
01:45:02,812 --> 01:45:04,852
Speaker 2: of it. I talked about the spectrolical of it. I

2238
01:45:04,893 --> 01:45:07,772
Speaker 2: talked about the wristbands that are all GEO located, so

2239
01:45:07,812 --> 01:45:12,893
Speaker 2: there's mess just come through the fireworks. The whole spectacle

2240
01:45:12,973 --> 01:45:15,012
Speaker 2: is phenomenal. I talked about that. So I got listen

2241
01:45:15,053 --> 01:45:16,972
Speaker 2: to this. This this is what I got.

2242
01:45:17,093 --> 01:45:18,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go, Here we go.

2243
01:45:18,372 --> 01:45:23,452
Speaker 2: Hi, Matt Hope you're well. Chris from Coldplays management. Here

2244
01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:26,892
Speaker 2: we heard your kind words about the band's first Eden

2245
01:45:26,973 --> 01:45:29,812
Speaker 2: Park show on news Talks. He'd be would love to

2246
01:45:29,933 --> 01:45:34,012
Speaker 2: invite you back for tomorrow tonight or tomorrow night's show

2247
01:45:34,412 --> 01:45:38,333
Speaker 2: as the band's special guests. Wow, if you're around and

2248
01:45:38,412 --> 01:45:42,652
Speaker 2: you're going to go, I said, nah, No, I said yes,

2249
01:45:42,772 --> 01:45:43,293
Speaker 2: I'd love to.

2250
01:45:45,293 --> 01:45:46,852
Speaker 3: Kid to meet the band potentially.

2251
01:45:46,893 --> 01:45:47,293
Speaker 24: You don't know that.

2252
01:45:47,452 --> 01:45:48,852
Speaker 2: Look, I mean we're reading between the line, s heat,

2253
01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:52,092
Speaker 2: what do we say here? We would love to invite

2254
01:45:52,133 --> 01:45:58,253
Speaker 2: you back as the bands the band's special guest. So

2255
01:45:58,812 --> 01:46:00,492
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, people might be able to

2256
01:46:00,692 --> 01:46:02,772
Speaker 2: what would you read? I feel like that means I'm

2257
01:46:02,772 --> 01:46:05,292
Speaker 2: going to best mates at the band forever and potentially

2258
01:46:05,372 --> 01:46:06,732
Speaker 2: get us to go and talk with them.

2259
01:46:06,732 --> 01:46:09,012
Speaker 3: I think so. Or do you think you know? Because

2260
01:46:09,093 --> 01:46:11,372
Speaker 3: you made those comments and you're right, you did say

2261
01:46:11,412 --> 01:46:13,173
Speaker 3: that it was one of the best concerts you've ever

2262
01:46:13,213 --> 01:46:15,093
Speaker 3: been to, and you've been to thousands. Yeah, but maybe

2263
01:46:15,133 --> 01:46:16,372
Speaker 3: Chris Martin wants a bit of a word.

2264
01:46:16,692 --> 01:46:20,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe. And look, it's not just Chris Martin.

2265
01:46:20,173 --> 01:46:23,692
Speaker 2: The band's also Johnny Buckland and world champion and Guy

2266
01:46:23,812 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 2: Berryman you know, yeah, no, I mean in Phil Havy.

2267
01:46:29,133 --> 01:46:30,213
Speaker 2: There's a lot of members of the band.

2268
01:46:30,532 --> 01:46:30,732
Speaker 22: Yeah.

2269
01:46:30,812 --> 01:46:33,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, looking forward to hearing that story next week. Mate, Right,

2270
01:46:34,053 --> 01:46:37,293
Speaker 3: it is time for Topical Tunes. This is the part

2271
01:46:37,452 --> 01:46:40,452
Speaker 3: of the show where Matt and I each pick a

2272
01:46:40,532 --> 01:46:43,612
Speaker 3: song related to a theme of the week. First to

2273
01:46:43,732 --> 01:46:47,452
Speaker 3: three votes via phone oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty wins.

2274
01:46:48,412 --> 01:46:50,173
Speaker 3: Winners get to start first, met or joant me to

2275
01:46:50,173 --> 01:46:50,612
Speaker 3: start first.

2276
01:46:50,652 --> 01:46:53,173
Speaker 2: As you start, let's give you a chance because you're

2277
01:46:53,293 --> 01:46:55,492
Speaker 2: on the on the back foot here. I am on

2278
01:46:55,532 --> 01:46:57,372
Speaker 2: the back foot, right, so I'd love to see you

2279
01:46:57,492 --> 01:46:58,052
Speaker 2: do better.

2280
01:46:58,213 --> 01:47:00,253
Speaker 3: Now, I reckon, I know what you've gone for here.

2281
01:47:00,293 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 3: But before we get to yours, this is my pitch.

2282
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:05,252
Speaker 3: We're having a good chat about gen Z on Tuesday.

2283
01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:07,812
Speaker 3: Apparently they're lazy, they don't want to put on a

2284
01:47:07,893 --> 01:47:10,412
Speaker 3: full day of work, and it got into a bit

2285
01:47:10,452 --> 01:47:13,612
Speaker 3: of a generational warfare situation. You didn't like millennials. Gen

2286
01:47:13,812 --> 01:47:16,452
Speaker 3: X got a free pass, the Boomer's got some stick,

2287
01:47:16,492 --> 01:47:18,772
Speaker 3: and certainly gen Z got some sticks. So I've picked

2288
01:47:18,893 --> 01:47:19,773
Speaker 3: my generation.

2289
01:47:26,372 --> 01:47:31,133
Speaker 2: Will say I have a die before I get Old's

2290
01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:41,612
Speaker 2: big pushing eighty now so absolute tune that I'm getting

2291
01:47:41,612 --> 01:47:44,093
Speaker 2: a lot of stick on the text machine nine two

2292
01:47:44,173 --> 01:47:46,412
Speaker 2: nine two about not giving those tickets away because I've

2293
01:47:46,452 --> 01:47:54,173
Speaker 2: already been, And to that, I say, sorry, I'm going anyway.

2294
01:47:54,213 --> 01:47:57,093
Speaker 2: There's no there's probably no surprises. What band I'm going

2295
01:47:57,133 --> 01:47:58,932
Speaker 2: to play a song from? As I was saying before,

2296
01:47:58,973 --> 01:48:01,933
Speaker 2: the Coldplay concert was just so good. I didn't you know.

2297
01:48:01,973 --> 01:48:04,333
Speaker 2: I'm not an album listening cole player. I didn't know

2298
01:48:04,452 --> 01:48:06,333
Speaker 2: all you know. I don't know every one of these songs,

2299
01:48:06,372 --> 01:48:09,732
Speaker 2: but they've just got so many hits that when you're

2300
01:48:09,772 --> 01:48:13,372
Speaker 2: at the concert you sing along. It's it's so such

2301
01:48:13,532 --> 01:48:16,093
Speaker 2: a great concert. And I mean it's ridiculous to say

2302
01:48:16,093 --> 01:48:19,452
Speaker 2: if you're a Coldplay skeptic like some people are, because

2303
01:48:19,732 --> 01:48:22,532
Speaker 2: they've sold one hundred and fifty thousand tickets in Auckland.

2304
01:48:22,652 --> 01:48:24,572
Speaker 2: So if you're a cold Play skeptic and you say

2305
01:48:24,612 --> 01:48:26,412
Speaker 2: they're not a very good band, then you know you're

2306
01:48:26,692 --> 01:48:28,892
Speaker 2: you are in the minority. I think they're a great band,

2307
01:48:28,973 --> 01:48:36,772
Speaker 2: and they're a fantastic life band. So so I eight

2308
01:48:36,933 --> 01:48:43,172
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty Is it Viva Lavida by Coldplay?

2309
01:48:44,053 --> 01:48:45,372
Speaker 2: Or is it whatever your song player can.

2310
01:48:45,532 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 3: My generation by the who you know what to do?

2311
01:48:48,532 --> 01:48:50,652
Speaker 3: I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2312
01:48:50,732 --> 01:48:52,213
Speaker 3: number to call if you want to teach through. You're

2313
01:48:52,213 --> 01:48:55,093
Speaker 3: more than welcome as well. Nine two nine two the

2314
01:48:55,213 --> 01:48:57,852
Speaker 3: first of three takes it Our, Get on the phones.

2315
01:48:58,213 --> 01:49:02,013
Speaker 3: It is sixteen minutes to four, the.

2316
01:49:02,173 --> 01:49:06,052
Speaker 4: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

2317
01:49:06,133 --> 01:49:09,972
Speaker 4: in between. That Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty

2318
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:11,492
Speaker 4: twenty four US Talk said, be.

2319
01:49:11,893 --> 01:49:14,052
Speaker 3: Right topical tunes, here's my song today?

2320
01:49:14,093 --> 01:49:17,372
Speaker 24: Age is this?

2321
01:49:17,452 --> 01:49:19,652
Speaker 2: Because you're from the worst generation, the millennial?

2322
01:49:19,772 --> 01:49:22,133
Speaker 3: I know you hate millennials. But genicks, So what do

2323
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:24,692
Speaker 3: you get a free pasty? Anyway? My generation? By the who?

2324
01:49:25,333 --> 01:49:25,532
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2325
01:49:25,692 --> 01:49:26,572
Speaker 11: And mine?

2326
01:49:26,732 --> 01:49:31,012
Speaker 2: Is this from Coldplay? Viva Lavida? Such a great concert.

2327
01:49:31,013 --> 01:49:33,933
Speaker 2: When I went on Wednesday, going again on Saturday, I

2328
01:49:33,973 --> 01:49:35,973
Speaker 2: didn't know it was such a huge Coldplayer fan till

2329
01:49:35,973 --> 01:49:37,732
Speaker 2: I went along. If you're going tonight, the weather is

2330
01:49:37,772 --> 01:49:39,612
Speaker 2: not so great out there in Auckland, so get yourself

2331
01:49:39,652 --> 01:49:42,812
Speaker 2: a poncho. You will be warmed by the quality of

2332
01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:43,492
Speaker 2: the show.

2333
01:49:43,612 --> 01:49:44,412
Speaker 3: Oh you're good?

2334
01:49:44,612 --> 01:49:44,772
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2335
01:49:46,572 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 3: Eighty?

2336
01:49:47,173 --> 01:49:51,132
Speaker 2: Is it my generation or viava livida?

2337
01:49:51,732 --> 01:49:52,492
Speaker 3: Sarah? How are you?

2338
01:49:53,412 --> 01:49:53,772
Speaker 33: I'm good?

2339
01:49:53,853 --> 01:49:54,133
Speaker 2: Thank you?

2340
01:49:54,372 --> 01:49:54,932
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

2341
01:49:55,893 --> 01:49:56,293
Speaker 27: I reckon?

2342
01:49:56,333 --> 01:49:57,412
Speaker 24: It's Coldplay all the way?

2343
01:49:59,372 --> 01:50:02,893
Speaker 2: Did you get to go along to the concert? Oh? Sorry,

2344
01:50:02,893 --> 01:50:03,173
Speaker 2: all right?

2345
01:50:03,572 --> 01:50:03,972
Speaker 24: Saday?

2346
01:50:04,013 --> 01:50:06,772
Speaker 2: What going all right today? Well I might see you

2347
01:50:06,812 --> 01:50:08,053
Speaker 2: this sound like you had a car accident, so.

2348
01:50:08,053 --> 01:50:08,612
Speaker 11: We'll you go.

2349
01:50:08,853 --> 01:50:10,652
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sarah. Colin, how are you?

2350
01:50:12,692 --> 01:50:12,932
Speaker 5: Tyler?

2351
01:50:13,013 --> 01:50:14,732
Speaker 3: How are you good? What do you reckon? Who's your

2352
01:50:14,772 --> 01:50:15,053
Speaker 3: vote for?

2353
01:50:15,173 --> 01:50:15,412
Speaker 23: Come on?

2354
01:50:15,572 --> 01:50:15,892
Speaker 1: Colin?

2355
01:50:17,492 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 15: I'm sorry guys, it's going to be cold Playing all

2356
01:50:19,652 --> 01:50:19,892
Speaker 15: the way.

2357
01:50:20,253 --> 01:50:20,652
Speaker 5: Good on you.

2358
01:50:20,933 --> 01:50:22,452
Speaker 2: You got the same name as my dog and you

2359
01:50:22,572 --> 01:50:24,133
Speaker 2: voted for me. I think I love you.

2360
01:50:24,213 --> 01:50:26,612
Speaker 3: Colin Kushler, who you're voting.

2361
01:50:26,412 --> 01:50:28,652
Speaker 10: For, oh, for my generation?

2362
01:50:28,772 --> 01:50:28,972
Speaker 15: Bug?

2363
01:50:29,452 --> 01:50:32,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just made it interesting. I always liked you.

2364
01:50:32,293 --> 01:50:32,732
Speaker 2: Bochler.

2365
01:50:33,013 --> 01:50:34,812
Speaker 3: If you one, If you can't get through I eighte

2366
01:50:34,893 --> 01:50:38,213
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty, keep trying, Lisa, who you're

2367
01:50:38,293 --> 01:50:38,612
Speaker 3: voting for?

2368
01:50:38,853 --> 01:50:43,092
Speaker 10: Hey, yeah, Tyler, I'm voting for you my generation.

2369
01:50:44,213 --> 01:50:45,572
Speaker 2: I was going to roll it out if you're voting

2370
01:50:45,612 --> 01:50:47,612
Speaker 2: for Tyler because it's not in competition, but.

2371
01:50:48,372 --> 01:50:51,333
Speaker 36: That if you do get to talk to Chris, give

2372
01:50:51,372 --> 01:50:52,053
Speaker 36: him a kiss for me.

2373
01:50:52,293 --> 01:50:54,772
Speaker 2: Oh nice, right on the list on the lips. This

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01:50:54,933 --> 01:50:55,492
Speaker 2: is from Lisa.

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Speaker 3: I think this is it. It's all down to James.

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Speaker 12: Call them about my generation MATEO.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, James, you're a good man. Oh who would

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01:51:09,253 --> 01:51:09,692
Speaker 3: have thought?

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01:51:10,372 --> 01:51:14,732
Speaker 2: Who would have thought? So that makes it five two

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01:51:15,133 --> 01:51:15,892
Speaker 2: overall competition.

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01:51:16,013 --> 01:51:18,173
Speaker 3: He's coming back, he's coming back.

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01:51:18,253 --> 01:51:21,852
Speaker 2: Well it's a fantastic song, so I'm not too angry

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01:51:21,893 --> 01:51:31,092
Speaker 2: about it. All right, I can't crack its.

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01:51:27,853 --> 01:51:39,492
Speaker 11: Doing show Baptie before get old general.

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Speaker 35: Why don't you.

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01:51:46,973 --> 01:51:52,972
Speaker 11: Don't shop dig right? We asked say trying to calls

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01:51:53,013 --> 01:51:54,813
Speaker 11: a big sensortion.

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01:51:56,492 --> 01:52:31,732
Speaker 2: She's talking er salation, but.

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01:52:31,893 --> 01:52:34,093
Speaker 24: Don't jump fair with.

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01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:38,572
Speaker 2: Don't jap pick what we all.

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01:52:41,652 --> 01:52:44,053
Speaker 3: Shot out fixed sensation.

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01:52:45,772 --> 01:52:54,173
Speaker 10: She's talking about my generation, my generation.

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01:52:58,053 --> 01:53:03,613
Speaker 22: Jewish Jelish.

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01:53:05,893 --> 01:53:11,812
Speaker 37: The job put us to say, just the cars we

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01:53:11,933 --> 01:53:13,532
Speaker 37: can get around.

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01:53:15,973 --> 01:53:23,213
Speaker 6: The right song.

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01:53:24,173 --> 01:53:24,852
Speaker 11: It is a good song.

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01:53:25,213 --> 01:53:27,652
Speaker 3: I needed that. I needed that when But.

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Speaker 2: Who aren't playing in an Auckland tonight? Are they?

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01:53:30,732 --> 01:53:30,772
Speaker 5: No?

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01:53:31,412 --> 01:53:35,133
Speaker 2: So Coldplay wins in the end because fifty thousand people

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01:53:35,133 --> 01:53:36,612
Speaker 2: are going to see them in Aukland tonight. I'm going

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01:53:36,652 --> 01:53:37,852
Speaker 2: to take those fifty thousand votes.

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01:53:39,133 --> 01:53:40,412
Speaker 3: You hold on to that, right.

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01:53:40,532 --> 01:53:45,532
Speaker 4: It is nine to four, the big stories, the big issues,

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01:53:45,772 --> 01:53:48,893
Speaker 4: the big trends and everything in between. Mat Heath and

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01:53:49,053 --> 01:53:52,732
Speaker 4: Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US talk.

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01:53:52,652 --> 01:53:55,892
Speaker 11: Said, b dead bos.

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01:53:54,772 --> 01:53:57,173
Speaker 3: Talk to be Dancy water Graves in studio. Get a

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01:53:57,333 --> 01:53:58,532
Speaker 3: dance you can't help it?

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01:53:58,652 --> 01:54:00,652
Speaker 22: Can you drag me back in here a gig?

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01:54:00,732 --> 01:54:01,133
Speaker 3: We love you?

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01:54:01,213 --> 01:54:01,372
Speaker 19: Mate.

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01:54:01,412 --> 01:54:04,333
Speaker 2: Wow, there's been this huge news, isn't there? Black Caps

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01:54:04,853 --> 01:54:08,772
Speaker 2: veteran Tim Southey to retire after Test series against to England.

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01:54:08,772 --> 01:54:10,372
Speaker 39: Well he is a veter and he's been playing for

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01:54:10,492 --> 01:54:12,573
Speaker 39: like seventeen eighteen seasons.

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01:54:12,692 --> 01:54:16,173
Speaker 2: Mat, Yeah, I mean as stats don't lie. The second

2419
01:54:16,293 --> 01:54:20,053
Speaker 2: most Test wickets ever for New Zealander after the great

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01:54:20,133 --> 01:54:21,973
Speaker 2: Richard Hadley, how do you think, tim so, how that

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01:54:21,973 --> 01:54:23,933
Speaker 2: you'll be remend remembered And do you think it's his

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01:54:24,053 --> 01:54:25,372
Speaker 2: time to lead podium?

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01:54:25,532 --> 01:54:28,932
Speaker 39: Dice right up there with the top handful two three

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01:54:29,173 --> 01:54:31,333
Speaker 39: players to play for the black Caps. As far as

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01:54:31,412 --> 01:54:34,213
Speaker 39: bowling is concerned, playing me Paddles is at the very top.

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01:54:34,533 --> 01:54:36,413
Speaker 39: He's not going to go past Sir Richard Hadley. But

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01:54:36,453 --> 01:54:40,973
Speaker 39: when you look at consistency, longevity, and that's stunning to

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01:54:41,053 --> 01:54:43,852
Speaker 39: me that he's managed to last so long without falling apart,

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01:54:43,933 --> 01:54:45,573
Speaker 39: because fast bowling not easy.

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01:54:46,133 --> 01:54:48,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually talked to him about this at one point.

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01:54:48,293 --> 01:54:51,133
Speaker 2: He was saying that the COVID break actually helped him

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01:54:51,573 --> 01:54:54,093
Speaker 2: elongate his career because if you're a fast bowler, you're

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01:54:54,133 --> 01:54:57,413
Speaker 2: always got injuries. You're always just dealing with injuries you

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01:54:57,453 --> 01:54:58,293
Speaker 2: go through, You're always hurting.

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01:54:58,453 --> 01:55:00,733
Speaker 22: But I don't think he's a fast, fast bowler though,

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01:55:00,853 --> 01:55:01,772
Speaker 22: so he don't break.

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01:55:01,613 --> 01:55:04,573
Speaker 2: Himself what some of those guys do, not like Lucky

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01:55:04,613 --> 01:55:06,533
Speaker 2: Ferguson gets a breaks down.

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01:55:06,653 --> 01:55:07,733
Speaker 22: You know what he is though, he's a.

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01:55:07,772 --> 01:55:09,973
Speaker 39: Very skilled bowler. He knows exactly what he can do

2441
01:55:10,093 --> 01:55:11,333
Speaker 39: and how to do it. Puts the ball in the

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01:55:11,413 --> 01:55:14,413
Speaker 39: right place knows how to swing the ball, he knows

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01:55:14,493 --> 01:55:16,293
Speaker 39: his limitation to keeps himself.

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01:55:16,013 --> 01:55:20,453
Speaker 2: And great, you know, the greatest bowling partnership in New

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01:55:20,533 --> 01:55:21,892
Speaker 2: Zealand history with Trent Bolt.

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01:55:22,533 --> 01:55:24,493
Speaker 22: Now, hold on, hold on, hold on, you and Chatfield

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01:55:24,493 --> 01:55:25,373
Speaker 22: and Sir Richard Hadley.

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01:55:25,693 --> 01:55:31,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, well old school, but you and Chatfield. Richard Hadley

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01:55:31,772 --> 01:55:34,012
Speaker 2: was doing a lot of the brilliant in that foil.

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01:55:34,093 --> 01:55:38,053
Speaker 3: It's very important, very good. Also the All Blacks of course,

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Speaker 3: or do you want to do your top three?

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01:55:39,253 --> 01:55:39,373
Speaker 6: Now?

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01:55:39,933 --> 01:55:41,772
Speaker 22: I don't mind. You're the boss of this show mate,

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01:55:41,812 --> 01:55:43,852
Speaker 22: I'm just the guy sitting on the wrong side of

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01:55:43,893 --> 01:55:44,333
Speaker 22: the chair.

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Speaker 3: He ever us your top three for the weekend?

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01:55:46,213 --> 01:55:46,333
Speaker 10: Us.

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Speaker 39: I'm pretty keen on watching the fine round of the

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01:55:48,893 --> 01:55:52,173
Speaker 39: Supercars at Adelaie because Adelaide is such a wonderful street circuit.

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01:55:52,173 --> 01:55:54,293
Speaker 39: It's been far too much time lying around on the

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01:55:54,453 --> 01:55:57,373
Speaker 39: track there that there's photographic evidence of me on my

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01:55:58,133 --> 01:56:01,812
Speaker 39: bum collapsed girt at the end of the Supercars season.

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01:56:01,893 --> 01:56:05,333
Speaker 39: So I'll definitely be watching some of that tonight, even

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01:56:05,373 --> 01:56:06,852
Speaker 39: though I'll have to watch some of it off tape

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01:56:06,853 --> 01:56:09,852
Speaker 39: because I start working, you know, seven or seventh, the

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01:56:09,973 --> 01:56:12,653
Speaker 39: All Whites are playing Vanawatu and the qualify.

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01:56:12,812 --> 01:56:13,812
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that well.

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01:56:13,973 --> 01:56:16,373
Speaker 22: The main thing is Chris Wood's playing and the team

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01:56:16,453 --> 01:56:19,052
Speaker 22: is looking stacked as well. And of course ten past

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Speaker 22: nine on Sunday Morning viv La France.

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01:56:22,573 --> 01:56:27,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, AB's versus France with Elliott Smith with a call indeed.

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Speaker 22: And I believe Gregor Paul will be helping them out too.

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Speaker 2: On News Talk ZEDB, love right, thank you so much

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01:56:32,173 --> 01:56:34,453
Speaker 2: for listening today, Thank you for coming in twice c

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01:56:34,613 --> 01:56:36,493
Speaker 2: and may give him a taste of Kiwi.

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