1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: We've got some very encouraging numbers around the cost of 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: building a home. So call Logic's latest construction cost in 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Dick shows us the price to build is the lowest 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: it's been since twenty twelve. So it's this good generation 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: homes bist. Craig Harrison's with us, Craig morning. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Good morning mate. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: So it's not going back down, it's moderation at an 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: elevated levels. People sort of settled with the number and 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: feel good about building, or we've still got some way 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: to go. 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: We've still got a bit of a way to go. 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean, our biggest competition is obviously the existing market 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: and that you know, you've got a very high level there. 14 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: It was about thirty three thousand houses up for sale 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: in that space, and there's quite a few of the 16 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: public that sort of have that I want it and 17 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: I want it now mentality, So that doesn't quite fit 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: into what we do. But as far as building a 19 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: house right now, it is at the perfect time. 20 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: How much do you deal with the individual like, you know, 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the mum and dad investor or the first time buyer 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: versus a developer, and you build up fifty seven of them, 23 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: then you flick them off. 24 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Generation homes is more about where we deal with the 25 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: mar and PA run people who are looking to go 26 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: into a home, who are wanting to build something for themselves. 27 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: We're not a developer of big scale where we tend 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: to work individually with each individual person and give them 29 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: their dream. 30 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Really, what's your square meter? What's the square meter cost? 31 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: Roughly at the moment. 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: Well, that's very hard to say because it depends on 33 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: what you're building. You can get anywhere around that sort 34 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: of you know, three to four thousand dollar mark is 35 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: going to get you a pretty reasonable home, and then 36 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: you can also spend seven to eight thousand dollars a 37 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: SCOO meter to give you a home. So it really 38 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: comes down to what you're building, and yeah, sort of 39 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: the requirements that you were acquiring as a family to 40 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: live in. 41 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Okay, do the message about it never being a better time? 42 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Is this a long term thing? Do you think the 43 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: things that have been driving the inflation over the COVID 44 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: period and post that are settled for good? 45 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I sort of hollo to a couple 46 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: of things recently around why it's good to build. I mean, 47 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: obviously the interest rates have come down and you you 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: sort of spoke earlier around you know, another drop in 49 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: the oci rate. So if you look at some of 50 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: your rates there, I mean a two year rate average 51 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: has been six point five one over the last of 52 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: the twenty years, and now it's down to four point 53 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: nine nine, So good time to do that. The supply 54 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: chain has indicated some potential increases coming in quarter to 55 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: and quarter three. You've got banks has now started to 56 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: sort of say hey, we're back into the lending space 57 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: and have dropped some of their ratios to make it work. 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: And then you've also got obviously you're at the bottom 59 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: of the market, so you have that opportunity to get 60 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: those capital games. 61 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: So we had the business confidence survey yesterday. Where's your 62 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: business confidence at right now? And going forward your positive 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: or negatable neutral. 64 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: Probably neutral for the next six months, and then looking 65 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: to be positive thereafter. 66 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Craig, Appreciate your inside Craig Harrison, who's the 67 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Generation Home CEO. 68 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 69 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 70 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.