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Speaker 1: See price. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Get adau how.

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Speaker 1: One historic and two out of left field was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with the latter, completely left field. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: believe it when I heard it. I was in the car.

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Speaker 2: It came up on Talkbak radio and I said, what

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Speaker 2: I mean. The result two weeks ago in the election

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Speaker 2: obviously was a disaster for the coalition, and there had

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Speaker 2: been mutterings about whether the coalition could survive, but everybody

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Speaker 2: thought they would. There's no I mean to explain to people.

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Speaker 2: The Liberal Party in the National Party in the Federal

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Speaker 2: Parliament had been a coalition for more than one hundred years.

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Speaker 2: They split once in nineteen eighty seven for about four months.

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Speaker 2: John Howard was the leader of the Liberal Party at

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Speaker 2: that time, the former Queensland Premiers to Joeviokimpeters and decided

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Speaker 2: he wanted to become prime minister and decided to start

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Speaker 2: this thing called Joe for Camera, which was a disaster

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Speaker 2: and they got thrashed by Bob Hawke in that election

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Speaker 2: and John Howard another three years to come back and

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Speaker 2: win win the prime ministership. So everyone thought, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, cooler heads will get together and I can

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Speaker 2: this will all get sorted out. The coalition much diminish,

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Speaker 2: but they'll get back together again and they'll fight the

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Speaker 2: election in three years time. That's not going to happen,

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Speaker 2: and the reports today suggest that this split could last

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Speaker 2: all the way to the next election. And to put

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Speaker 2: it into some sort of understandable context, when Parliament resumes,

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Speaker 2: which is late next month in June, the Liberal Party

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Speaker 2: will sit there with twenty eight members in the lower House.

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Speaker 2: The Natural Nationals will have fifteen, and they'll look across

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Speaker 2: the dispatch box table and there'll be ninety three Labor

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Speaker 2: MPs sitting there staring at them. And I can only

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Speaker 2: imagine what John Howard, with his akubra off sitting on

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Speaker 2: a jet flying back from Rome, would have said when

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Speaker 2: his phone rang and I presume they can ring our

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Speaker 2: version of air Force one that coalition had split. He

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Speaker 2: could not believe his luck. I mean this probably without

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Speaker 2: overstating it is probably the destruction of the Liberal Party

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Speaker 2: in Australia for a yea, it.

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Speaker 1: Is one for the ages. I mean, if you guess

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Speaker 1: go back, I think about this last night and looking

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to you about it. You go back

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Speaker 1: six months and what was the conversation. The conversation was

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Speaker 1: Dutton was credible, Elbow was in trouble. It was a

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Speaker 1: tight race. He might get back probably a minority. The

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Speaker 1: economy stunk, They weren't overly happy. And here we are

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Speaker 1: six months later, ninety three seats bang, and the opposition

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Speaker 1: has blown to pieces.

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Speaker 2: And out of government for generations, I mean, without overstating it.

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Speaker 2: And when we have three year terms here, everyone was

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Speaker 2: suggesting after the election result, well Labour's back for at

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Speaker 2: least two Well it could be three now, I mean

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Speaker 2: it could be much longer than that. And when you

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Speaker 2: look around the world, and I know you have a

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Speaker 2: global beewond these things. You look at the split of

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Speaker 2: the Conservatives in the UK, Nigel for ours basically now

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Speaker 2: the face of conservative politics in the UK up against

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Speaker 2: a weak ki Starma. That's what's happened here. And I

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Speaker 2: just don't know whether Australia has a Nigel Faraars for

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Speaker 2: a start. But the Nationals will now drift further to

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Speaker 2: the right. I hate using that term, but they will

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Speaker 2: become the face of conservative politics. And what's going on

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Speaker 2: in this country is really fascinating because the regional politicians

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Speaker 2: that represent people who grow the food and work in

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Speaker 2: the regions. I mean they are now saying, well, you

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Speaker 2: don't care about us, and the Liberals don't care about us.

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Speaker 2: We're out here, we've got power lines being plowed through

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Speaker 2: our farms that we don't want. We've got wind turbines

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Speaker 2: being built on our property that we don't want being

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Speaker 2: built there. And that's just making the regional farmers of

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Speaker 2: Australia angry. So they're turning toward their own natural party,

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Speaker 2: the Nationals, and I think will probably end up doing

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Speaker 2: some sort of deal perhaps down the line with the

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Speaker 2: National Party. And the Libs are just left out stranded.

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Speaker 2: As I said to you on Monday, they don't even

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Speaker 2: have one seat in all of metropolitan Atelaide. Where are

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Speaker 2: they going to go?

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Speaker 1: What happened? Just to explain it? So little proud and

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Speaker 1: why didn't they just do the Look, we'll have a review,

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Speaker 1: so especially the Liberals, we'll have a review of where

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Speaker 1: we're at, how we blew it, what's gone wrong. Once

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Speaker 1: we've done that, let's come back together, have a chat

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Speaker 1: and we'll carry on as per what blew it apart.

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Speaker 2: Now, one thing blew at apart the Nationals said, listen,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to go back into coalition with you

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Speaker 2: and you did really badly at the election, this is

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Speaker 2: little proud to lurk like. What we want to be

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Speaker 2: able to do is we want to be able to

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Speaker 2: have front bench ministers in the joint cabinet to be

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Speaker 2: able to say I don't agree with that policy. And

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Speaker 2: it came down to net zero. So the Nationals are saying,

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Speaker 2: there's no way Australia it's going to get to net

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Speaker 2: zero by twenty thirty or twenty fifty, and we don't

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Speaker 2: want any part of that. And so we want to

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Speaker 2: be able to stand up and say no, no, you

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Speaker 2: can say that you want to agree to that, we don't.

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Speaker 2: And that's what blew apart. There was a couple of

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Speaker 2: other things the Nationals wanted. They set up this really

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Speaker 2: hard one deal with the Liberal Party where they were

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Speaker 2: going to have a future fund for the Bush Australian Bush,

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Speaker 2: so you'd have a bunch of money stuck away in

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Speaker 2: a bank account earning interest and the interests would then

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Speaker 2: go to wood pet projects of the Nationals. They got

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Speaker 2: that through the party room, and the Libs have not

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Speaker 2: guaranteed that they could keep that policy in place. So

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Speaker 2: it was over policies they fell apart.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Fortunately Victoria looks really good at the moment, I

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Speaker 1: was fine, Have I got my numbers right? The debt's

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Speaker 1: only going from one hundred and sixty seven billion dollars

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Speaker 1: to one hundred and ninety four billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: You've got your numbers right. The place is a complete disaster.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing about the federal result is

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Speaker 2: hopefully Victorians will wake up and at the end of

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Speaker 2: next year get rid of a really bad state. Labor

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Speaker 2: government have listened to these numbers. Tax take on Victorian

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Speaker 2: so these are state taxes will by twenty thirty be

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Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars a year. That's up one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy three percent since the Labor Party were elected in

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, So ten years the tax take has gone

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Speaker 2: up one hundred and seventy three percent. And the fool

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Speaker 2: who is now the Treasurer, Jacqueline Simes said yesterday when

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Speaker 2: asked about the tax take, she said, well, unlike Western

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Speaker 2: Australia who dig money literally out of the ground, all

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Speaker 2: we have is payroll tax and property taxes to keep

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Speaker 2: the state running. I mean that is just ridiculous. The

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Speaker 2: public service wages bill has gone up thirty eight percent

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Speaker 2: in ten years. I mean seriously, and we're still paying

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Speaker 2: something I forgot. We're still paying the COVID debt level.

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Speaker 2: I mean what COVID? I mean serious, unreal?

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Speaker 1: All right, go well, for see you next week. Steve

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Speaker 1: Price in Victoria in Australia.

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