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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duper Cyllen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talks have be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Police Minister Mark

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Speaker 4: Mitchell on Jevin mcskimming pleading guilty, Resources Minister Shane Jones

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Speaker 4: on those changes to the gas Security Fund and dairy

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Speaker 4: analyst Stu Davidson on whether the Fonterra payout will drop

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Speaker 4: below ten bucks a kilo.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper cla hell, how good is.

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Speaker 4: This idea of bringing Michelin too New Zealand in the

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Speaker 4: hope that some of our restaurants will get some stars awarded. Now,

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Speaker 4: this is not free. We have to pay for it,

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Speaker 4: and we have to pay actually quite a lot of

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Speaker 4: money for it. It's costing Tourism New Zealand nearly six

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Speaker 4: and a half million dollars and that's just for the

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Speaker 4: first three years and I don't know how much you

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Speaker 4: have to pay after that. But take a look what

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Speaker 4: the Assies did, I mean, the Aussie's looked at this

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Speaker 4: last year. It was going to cost them four million

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Speaker 4: dollars for the first year, five million dollars for the

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Speaker 4: second year, seven and a half million dollars for the

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Speaker 4: next year, and then basically for a few years thereafter,

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Speaker 4: something like another three years. It was going to cost

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Speaker 4: them another seven and a half million dollars by my calculations,

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Speaker 4: in the space of what maybe five of six years,

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Speaker 4: they were going to have to fork out to Michelin

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Speaker 4: about forty million dollars. Ozzie's looked at it, said nah,

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Speaker 4: but we've said yes, And I reckon we're doing the

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Speaker 4: right thing doing that because this has grown up first

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Speaker 4: world tourism. I mean, I think about the trip that

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Speaker 4: I just did last weekend to Melbourne with a couple

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Speaker 4: of girlfriends. Food was a huge part of it. The

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Speaker 4: one of us who was doing the bookings found the

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Speaker 4: good places to eat, the places that everybody in Melbourne

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Speaker 4: is talking about, got us into those places lunch and dinner.

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Speaker 4: And this is what tourists do. They come to a

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Speaker 4: city for an event and they tag on great food,

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Speaker 4: find all the great restaurants and go try them out.

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Speaker 4: And here in New Zealand, we are really good at food.

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Speaker 4: I mean the entire time that I was in Melbourne,

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Speaker 4: I kept thinking that for all the raving that people

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Speaker 4: do about Milburnian eateries. Actually, in New Zealand you can

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Speaker 4: get just as good, if not, in my opinion, a

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Speaker 4: whole lot better. And actually paying six million dollars for

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Speaker 4: this is not really all that much. I mean, when

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Speaker 4: you think about what gets spent on tourism campaigns that

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Speaker 4: you can never actually be sure really work. Back in April,

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Speaker 4: the government pumped twice as much as this, thirteen and

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Speaker 4: a half million dollars into advertising New Zealand to Ossie's.

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Speaker 4: What do you get for that? I mean, you get

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Speaker 4: maybe a guess that some Ossie tourists came here as

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Speaker 4: a result. For this money that we're giving to Michelin,

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Speaker 4: you get actual stars potentially, you get international prestige. You

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Speaker 4: get the sense for tourists that they have landed in

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Speaker 4: a first world city eating international grade food.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Ellen, I tell.

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Speaker 4: You who's excited about it, Ben Bailey, the key we chef.

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Speaker 4: He's going to bet us up the half past five

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Speaker 4: nine two nine. Who is the text number? Standard text

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Speaker 4: fees apply now. The fallout continues from the government's plan

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Speaker 4: to deal with Auckland's homeless. It turns out the idea

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Speaker 4: originally came from Sunny Koschel's Crime Advisory Group, and the

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Speaker 4: original idea was not to ban homeless but to introduce

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Speaker 4: move on orders. Chloe Swarbrick is the MP for Auckland Central.

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Speaker 4: Hi Chloe, Solda, are you okay with the idea of

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Speaker 4: a move on order?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I welcome the government's long overdue focus on Auckland,

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Speaker 5: but what the evidence shows is that this is not

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Speaker 5: actually going to solve the problem, It merely moves it along.

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Speaker 5: In the last week or so, I have re engaged

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Speaker 5: with Minister Mark Mitchell, who's back on deck, and I

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Speaker 5: am feeling as though there's a constructive way through this.

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Speaker 5: I think that it is rather hysterical for the government

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Speaker 5: to respond to an issue of its own making, that

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Speaker 5: is increased homelessness, by coming down hard on criminalizing, not

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Speaker 5: as who it is made homeless. So I think it's

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Speaker 5: time for us to get to the core route issues

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Speaker 5: here and to invest sensibly to resolve them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, if you don't like the idea of move

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Speaker 4: on orders and you don't think it works, what should

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Speaker 4: we do? What's a better idea?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I think obviously what is really clear is

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Speaker 5: that the issues that have been identified by number of

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Speaker 5: my constituents and a number of small businesses, particularly in

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Speaker 5: number of people who are using our streets as kind

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Speaker 5: of a third space, which makes sense than that emergency

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Speaker 5: housing is not a particularly nice place to spend twenty

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Speaker 5: of course we also have those who are still not

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Speaker 5: getting access to housing. So a form of day center,

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Speaker 5: which is something which I've been advocating for for a

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Speaker 5: long time along with a number of other service providers,

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Speaker 5: where people are able to use that space to have

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Speaker 5: a cup of tea and to engage with wrap around

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Speaker 5: support services, would be a far better use.

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Speaker 4: The place like this, a kitchen like this on k Road.

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Speaker 5: So there had been back in twenty nineteen, I which

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Speaker 5: with the former government off the back of the synthetics

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Speaker 5: crisis to get access to some special funding for our

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Speaker 5: Odyssey House to run a kind of day center for

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Speaker 5: LifeWise out of LifeWise Merge Cafe on Kananngahape Rods which

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Speaker 5: you rightly identify. Yeah, so that was run by Peers

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Speaker 5: Support Services.

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Speaker 4: Merge Cafe is still there, Yeah, Merge.

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Speaker 5: Cafe is still there and it is still used by

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Speaker 5: a number of people, but that special funding for the

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Speaker 5: specific wrap around support services for those experiencing addiction is

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Speaker 5: no longer running.

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Speaker 4: Again, I mean, Cloe, We're not talking about nice people

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Speaker 4: are talking about people who shout at other people, who

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Speaker 4: cause a nuisance, who are actually threatening and disruptive. What

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So look again engaging directly with service providers and

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Speaker 5: actually with our beat cops in Auckland City Center. The

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Speaker 5: police themselves are the first to say that they are

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Speaker 5: not equipped or resource to deal with social issues. And

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Speaker 5: even if they were to move people along, which they

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Speaker 5: kind of do on a day today basis at the moment,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't stop someone from popping back up in the

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Speaker 5: exact same place the next day. Right now, it seems

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Speaker 5: like really the only place that these people can end

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Speaker 5: up being put is being held overnight in the cells. Again,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't go anywhere near towards resolving the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but is that not the police are selling? Is

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Speaker 4: it not better, Chloe, for the person who's got a

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Speaker 4: is in the cells. I mean, it's not ideal, but

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Speaker 4: it is a better situation, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: I mean you've kind of phut the nail on the

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Speaker 5: this as a but it's best driven. This is a

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Speaker 5: pipeline into the criminal justice system. And if we want

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Speaker 5: to talk about spending good money after bad for worse

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Speaker 5: and worse results, we know that it costs too.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, but give me, don't give me

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Speaker 4: the problems and how complicated this is because I know

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Speaker 4: that what do we do about the situation in the

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Speaker 4: if you don't want them to be moved on? What

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Speaker 5: So this is exactly what I was saying at the start.

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Speaker 5: We need to fund more of these days.

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Speaker 4: But you're talking about a day center, Chloe, for people

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Speaker 4: who are you going to be cooperative? I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: the ones who are lying around doing drugs, shouting at

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Speaker 4: people walking around, being difficult. What do you do about them?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's where the social service support and again many

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Speaker 5: of those outreach kind of people within community are funded

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Speaker 4: Can they go into these people and take those people away?

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Speaker 5: There would be the opportunity for those those outreach workers

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Speaker 5: to directly connect with people and then to put them

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm talking about the uncooperative ones. What do

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Speaker 4: you do about the uncoperative ones? It seems to be

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Speaker 4: the only thing you can do is chuck them in

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Speaker 4: jail or move them on.

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Speaker 5: Well, that is currently what is happening. If somebody is

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Speaker 5: being immensely disruptive and bordering on violence or otherwise, then

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Speaker 5: that is the role for the police, and that is

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Speaker 5: how they are currently responding to.

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Speaker 4: You know that does want to happen that much because

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Speaker 5: I do live in the city center, and again I

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Speaker 5: think this is where but again, this is where I

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Speaker 6: Connect that up with.

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Speaker 5: Outreach workers who are working with their social service providers,

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Speaker 5: which looks like a far better and far more meaningful

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Speaker 4: Chloe listen, thanks very much. A realize you're really busy today,

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Speaker 4: so thank you for your time. That is Chloe swarbrick

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Speaker 4: Auckland Central MP nine two nine two is the text number.

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Speaker 4: You'll have seen the news come in just in the

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Speaker 4: last half an hour or so. Former Deputy Police Commissioner

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Speaker 4: Jef McK skimming has pleaded guilty to the charges he

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Speaker 4: was facing.

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Speaker 4: The charges he was facing was that on his work

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Speaker 4: devices he was possessing child sexual exploitation images and also

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Speaker 4: best reality images. He appeared in Wellington District Call today

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Speaker 4: pleaded guilty to the charges admitted them. We'll have a

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Speaker 4: chat to Mark Mature, the police Minister after five o'clock

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Speaker 2: Four, It's the Heather Duper See Allan Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 4: I work in community mental health. That check is dreaming.

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Speaker 4: That check is Chloe Michael. Thank you eighteen past four

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Speaker 8: I am a picture. I am the Dictionary definition of ADHD.

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Speaker 4: None of this is true, I mean some of it's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 4: What is your terrible advice for us today?

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Speaker 8: R eighteen. Bet responsibly and I did, And don't bet

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Speaker 8: This time around, I've chosen this. It's a rugby MAULTI

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Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 4: You got to keep it low brow.

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Speaker 8: You gotta keep it light on the down.

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Speaker 8: Can I be your third absolu?

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Speaker 10: Bloody?

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Speaker 4: Lookly you can can ex given that you're ADHD. It's

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 8: I expect it will start Fabia in Holland, although they

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Speaker 4: This is what are the chances of Scotland actually beats us.

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Speaker 8: And if they got rolled by Scotland, well no, quite frankly,

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Speaker 4: No, no, thank you, We're not going to keep the faith.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: No good and tonight the black Caps are playing the

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Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Darcy. Darcy Watergrave Holara and joined us tonight

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duper c Ellen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else's news talks they'd be Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm getting a lot of texts asking me why

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Speaker 4: I bother talking to Chloe Swarbrick. I talked to Chloe

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Speaker 4: Swarbrick because Chloe Swoolbrick is the minister, not the minister, sorry,

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Speaker 4: the MP for Auckland, right, She's the MP for Auckland Central.

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Speaker 4: If there is a homelessness issue, if there is bad

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Speaker 4: these people threaten our staff, intimidate members of the police.

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Speaker 4: Dale heither. What did you expect from Chloe. She's unnaturally

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Speaker 4: so on and so forth. As I say, you know

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Speaker 4: for twenty six. Now the Maori Party. So apparently the

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Speaker 4: Maori Party had another intervention today and this is from

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Speaker 4: ee EWE forum. He must have flown down. He met

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Speaker 4: with Taku de Feris, this time in parliament and seems

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Speaker 4: to have been constructive. However, I don't know if you're

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Speaker 4: like acting up on social media. If you haven't come

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Speaker 4: across at Kitty Kitty's a recidivist. Kitty is John's daughter Tamahead.

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Speaker 4: She's been saying some stuff. I'm gon play some of

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Speaker 4: I went to the cricket last night. I just want

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Speaker 4: seen advertising for this game? Did I miss it? Or

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Speaker 4: is New Zealand Cricket actually just dropping the ball on

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Speaker 4: advertising these games. If you've seen the advertising, can you

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Speaker 4: let me know what? Let me know either way, I'd

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Speaker 4: like to know. Nine two nine two is the text number?

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Speaker 4: Standard text fee apply. We'll get to Kiddy in a minute,

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Speaker 4: News said.

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Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather du for

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Speaker 1: the Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the power

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Speaker 1: of satellite mobile.

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Speaker 2: News Doorg said, be no.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if you've been following the gas situation in this country.

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Speaker 4: I've got some very bad news for you, potentially, and

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get it to you in just attack.

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Speaker 4: Turns out it wasn't just me the cricket. Hardly anyone

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Speaker 4: saw any advertising with the cricket.

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Speaker 7: Hither.

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Speaker 4: I only discovered the game was on when I turned

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Speaker 4: on one News. I don't recall seeing it advertised at all. Hither,

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge black Caps fan, had no idea whatsoever

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Speaker 4: about the English or West Indians series. Didn't even know

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Speaker 4: about the Australians coming until two days before. Hither, You're

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Speaker 4: dead right. I didn't even know where the Windys were coming.

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Speaker 4: Which idiot thought Eden Park was a smart venue? Why

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Speaker 4: did I be like it in Parks Avenue? Maybe one

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Speaker 4: of the I don't know. I see the boys are

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Speaker 4: to me in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Hither.

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Speaker 4: My daughter lives in an adjacent street to Eden Park.

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Speaker 4: The first she knew about yesterday's and today's matches was

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Speaker 4: if you don't know it's happening, are you? Barry Soapers

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Speaker 4: is us in ten minutes twenty four away from five.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news Dogs edby Drive.

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Speaker 4: New York Mayor Alexora and Mandara has announced his transition

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Speaker 4: team today. CNN host Van Jones has criticized him, saying

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Speaker 4: his victory speech was too divisive.

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Speaker 11: I think he missed a cancinite to open up and

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Speaker 11: bring more people into the tent. I think he was

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Speaker 11: using the microphone in a way that he was almost yelling.

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Speaker 11: The warm, open, embracing guy that's close to working people

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Speaker 4: On Station eight, New York radio host Charlemagne the God,

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Speaker 4: though strongly disagreed with Van.

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Speaker 12: Shut the fop Okay, there was no opportunity, mister mand

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Speaker 12: just one.

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Speaker 4: Down the road. In Washington, the government shutdown has become

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Speaker 4: the longest in US history, at thirty six days in counting.

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Speaker 4: President Trump is blaming the Democrats for the length of

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Speaker 2: Let's move forward. I'd like to move forward.

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Speaker 13: I'd like to get it going, but it's really up

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Speaker 4: And finally, okay, this is like cost of living crisis

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Speaker 4: tone death. So Starbucks in the US has unveiled its

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Speaker 4: Starbucks Beer Rister Cold Cup. I'm not mispronouncing that. It's

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Speaker 4: a glass shaped like a bear, like a little bear,

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Speaker 4: And the fans are going absolutely nuts for it, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: The glass is going to cost you, and Answer has

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Speaker 4: done the numbers on this, He's worked out the currency.

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Speaker 4: He's absolutely absolutely certain. Fifty three New Zealand dollars and

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Speaker 4: that's empty. There's not even any coffee in it.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 4: Murray Old's Ossie correspondent with US Alo mus.

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Speaker 9: And with my experience of American coffee, it's not worth drinking.

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Speaker 9: I mean no, really, fifty bucks for a bloody bear glass.

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Speaker 4: You're cracking jokes, un, that's ridiculous. And then what's gonna

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Speaker 4: happen is it's gonna I'm going to come in with

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Speaker 4: my OCD because you're going to have it, and I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm going to throw it away for you. That's what

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Speaker 9: Because his lawyer was a stooge. She was informing on

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Speaker 9: he got thirty years and non parole of twenty two

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Speaker 9: so he wasn't due out until twenty thirty four. One

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Speaker 9: of the jail terms twenty years. But today he's walked

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Speaker 9: free and no more jail time. Because his barrister successfully

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Speaker 9: argued in the Court of Appeal in Victoria. His barrister

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Speaker 9: said his lawyer back then Nicola Gobbo was corrupt. She

445
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Speaker 9: was and her behavior by informing on the underworld to

446
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Speaker 9: the Victorian police basically corrupted all the trials. Where's my quote? Here?

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Speaker 9: Here we go as she was and now I've just

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Speaker 9: lost it. Anyway, mock Bell didn't know that she was

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Speaker 9: a so called supergrass until after he pleaded guilty, until

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Speaker 9: after he'd been jailed. So basically he's gone back now

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Speaker 9: after serving all these years, he appealed and he's actually

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Speaker 9: now for time already served. He's walked out today. His

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Speaker 9: sentence is done.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. Now, why has this person bit a nurse?

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Speaker 9: Well, this person was up in a regional hospital in

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Speaker 9: Tamworth and he's a twenty seven year old fellow and

457
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Speaker 9: he failed to appear in court for sentence four counts

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Speaker 9: of assaulting frontline health workers. Now he has a personality disorder,

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Speaker 9: so he does have a mental health condition. He was

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Speaker 9: taken to hospital because of welfare concerns. He had treatment

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Speaker 9: for a bunch of injuries. He was also perhaps offers medication.

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Speaker 9: He tried to leave the hospital. He was told that

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Speaker 9: staff wanted to put him into a mental health unit,

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Speaker 9: so he apparently just he went crazy. He started gnashing

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Speaker 9: his teeth and thrashing around. Four security guards drive to

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Speaker 9: stop him. It triggered a lockdown of the emergency department

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Speaker 9: and according to the documents tended in court today, one

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Speaker 9: guard and a massive bite to the finger, and all

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Speaker 9: four guards suffered a range of different injuries. This guy

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Speaker 9: was really fighting back with all he had. Anyway, what

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Speaker 9: this has done, of course, I mean you can't go

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Speaker 9: assaulting nurses, as you say him. And so the state

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Speaker 9: government of New South Wales are saying, right, we're going

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Speaker 9: to have to have a review of security in our hospitals,

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Speaker 9: particularly regional hospitals where oftentimes you don't have security guards.

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Speaker 9: Certainly none is armed. You don't have any armed guards

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Speaker 9: at the state's hospitals. But that this isn't good enough

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Speaker 9: to have four guards at Tamworth. It's a major hospital,

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Speaker 9: it's a big center, it's a big city. But all

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Speaker 9: four guards were injured, one of them with his finger bitten,

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Speaker 9: and that's not good enough according to the union and

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Speaker 9: the government.

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Speaker 4: Now, what is it that Ossie goat meat has got

484
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Speaker 4: the the US loves well.

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Speaker 9: Apparently it's clean and it's green. And these goats out

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Speaker 9: there breeding in the wild, they're now being caught and

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Speaker 9: they're not being shot from a helicopter as that was

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Speaker 9: the case because they are feral. What they're doing, they're

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Speaker 9: actually taking them to avatars, slaughtering them, humanely, dressing the meat.

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Speaker 9: And it's just going absolute gangbusters in the United States.

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Speaker 9: Not just the US, Korea, China, and the Caribbean are

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Speaker 9: all scoffing up vast quantities of Australian goat. Apparently it's

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Speaker 9: a very clean meat.

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Speaker 14: It's a very lean meat.

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Speaker 9: When I was living in South Sudan, I had quite

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Speaker 9: a number of meals off goat, and it's a lovely

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Speaker 9: meat when it's done well. It's beautiful in curry. But

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Speaker 9: high demand, of course, means higher prices. And that's got

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Speaker 9: a lot of farm well not a lot, but some

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Speaker 9: farmers out on the edge of the desert, you know,

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Speaker 9: and some of that more marginal country where perhaps you

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Speaker 9: can't run sheep, they're going to run goats, which apparently

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Speaker 9: don't need as much as tucker, and they're going to

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Speaker 9: run them by breeding them up and then after slaughter

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Speaker 9: for an up and coming export business, enter interesting stuff.

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Speaker 4: You're right, Goat is a very good meet Mars. Thanks

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Speaker 4: very much, Murray Old's Australia correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Together do for c Ellen Heather.

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Speaker 4: There's a Tea twenty in Nelson this coming weekend Sunday

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Speaker 4: and Monday. I live in Nelson and I would never

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Speaker 4: have known that the cricket was happening. I was walking

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Speaker 4: the dog past the ground had to ask the ground

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Speaker 4: keeper what was going on? Heither you only knew about

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Speaker 4: it because you've got free tickets. That's right. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna lie. I'm not going to pretend that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: That is how I knew about it. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: have to delay playing you the Kitty tamarheader because I

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Speaker 4: really need I need you to sink into this. So

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Speaker 4: we're really going to sit back and enjoy Kitty tamarheada

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Speaker 4: and I haven't got the time before Barry, so stand

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Speaker 4: by because we'll do it in just a minute. Just

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Speaker 4: got to tell you we're also going to be talking

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Speaker 4: about the what's going on at the fire stations after five.

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Speaker 4: This does not sound like a fun time at all

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Speaker 4: because it sounds like they're going to have to cut

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Speaker 4: costs and all kinds of stuff like that. But the

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Speaker 4: most important thing I used to think, I suspect that

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Speaker 4: we're going to talk about after five o'clock is what

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Speaker 4: is going on with gas.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we've had this con I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure that this has been confirmed beforehand, but it's just

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Speaker 4: been confirmed by officials that it looks like Marwi gas

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Speaker 4: Field is going to close, and it's going to close soon.

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Speaker 4: Because there's a cabinet paper that's been released on a

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Speaker 4: slightly unrelated subject saying OMV New Zealand the owners has

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Speaker 4: confirmed that the Marwi Gas Condensate Field will stop production

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Speaker 4: by dot dot dot and then that last bit is redacted.

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Speaker 4: But if you've heard the rumors that I've heard, then

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Speaker 4: what we're hearing is it's going to close next Christmas, right,

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Speaker 4: so not this Christmas, Christmas twenty twenty six. Now, what

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Speaker 4: that means is meth and X has to close because

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Speaker 4: methanex where else are they going to get that much gas?

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Speaker 4: So anyway, Shane Jones is going to be with us.

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Speaker 4: This is potentially very significant for Tartan. Lucky Shane Jones

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Speaker 4: is with us after five. We're gonna have a chat

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Speaker 4: Tom about it. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certain.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen away from five Barries So for senior political correspondence

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Speaker 4: with us, Hallo Barry, Good afternoon, Heaven. J mcskimming is

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Speaker 4: pleaded guilty.

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Speaker 15: Well, isn't it incredible? I can't remember a top policeman

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Speaker 15: like this ever being charged. And it'll see no doubt

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Speaker 15: the Minister of Police wiping his brow Mark Mitchell because

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Speaker 15: he came so close to being the Commissioner of Police.

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Speaker 15: It's recommended by Mark to the Prime Minister. The Prime

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Speaker 15: Minister then refers it up to the Governor General and

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Speaker 15: the appointment is made for five years. And you just

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Speaker 15: imagine if they'd made a different choice and GeV mcskimming

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Speaker 15: would now be the Commissioner of Police or.

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Speaker 2: Would have been.

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Speaker 15: So the government escaped the bullet there, there's no doubt

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Speaker 15: about that. And I've got to say if you look

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Speaker 15: at the statement from the Commissioner of Police Richard Chambers,

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Speaker 15: very strong indeed he said his behavior was disgraceful and

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Speaker 15: it's right that he has been held to account for it.

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Speaker 15: He said, it's not only criminal, it goes against the

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Speaker 15: core values of the police and really it has dented

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Speaker 15: the police. This just disgraceful. So I understand you're going

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Speaker 15: to be talked to, talking to Mark Mitchell and he'll

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Speaker 15: have more disailer.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, did this some business with the school boards and

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Speaker 4: the Treaty of white Unguy blow up in Parliament?

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Speaker 15: Well, not really blew up, but certainly it showed how

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Speaker 15: passionate the Minister of Education, Erica Stanford is about it.

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Speaker 15: The government's of course removing the requirement for schools to

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Speaker 15: give effect to the Treaty of waitang and the other

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Speaker 15: boards with the government saying the crown its responsibility is

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Speaker 15: the Treaty of Waitangi and it shouldn't be volunteer boards

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Speaker 15: of schools. And you can understand that the Education Minister

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Speaker 15: was asked to justify the removal of the treaty requirement

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Speaker 15: by the school boards. The questions were being fired by

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Speaker 15: the troubled MALDI party's co leader Debbie no Riwa Packer,

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Speaker 15: sitting whispering to each other behind her. Behind her where

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Speaker 15: the party's troublesome MPs Marimino Kapakini and Takuta Peris. Eric

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Speaker 15: Is Standford, though she was charged as she answered the

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Speaker 15: questions here, she.

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Speaker 16: Is achievement data or Tamardiki Marti has been declining for decades.

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Speaker 16: The gap is yawning and if we want to talk

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Speaker 16: about a treaty breach, that is it. The evidence that

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Speaker 16: I have is it only ten percent of Marty's students

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Speaker 16: are at curriculum for mathematics by the time they go

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Speaker 16: to high school, seventy eight percent, more than a year behind.

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Speaker 17: What message does the minister think this sends to Tamataki

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Speaker 17: Marti's sitting in classrooms today that their language, their culture

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Speaker 17: and identity no longer belong in the system meant to

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Speaker 17: uplift them.

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Speaker 16: What it sends is the signal that we take our

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Speaker 16: core crown responsibility for upholding the Treaty very seriously when

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Speaker 16: it comes to raising achievement for Marty's students, and we

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Speaker 16: are the first government in a very long time to

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Speaker 16: see any of those results turn around.

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Speaker 15: And you don't often hear a minister's reply being applauded,

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Speaker 15: but she's certainly got it much longer than I played.

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Speaker 4: You then interesting from debing, so Mike Davidson has made

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Speaker 4: in speech this is the new Bossy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well he's the replacement for the non binary Benjamin Doyle.

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Speaker 15: Mike Davison made has made in speech. Davidson, as far

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Speaker 15: as I know, is thankfully he hymn, which is a

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Speaker 15: great relief to me. But he says the major problems

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Speaker 15: facing the country is climate change, and he's advocating public transport,

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Speaker 15: bikes and electric cars, and he says he's going to

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Speaker 15: be keeping the blow torch on the government.

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Speaker 18: I stand in this house today concerned for our future.

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Speaker 18: Our communities are struggling, and the environment is under attack,

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Speaker 18: and politics across the globe and here in New Zealand

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Speaker 18: is becoming more confrontation and toxic. We are failing at Tamareki.

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Speaker 18: But while I'm concerned, there is hope. Over the next

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Speaker 18: twelve months, I will work with my green colleagues to

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Speaker 18: hold this government to accounts, to challenge them, and to

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Speaker 18: show that people of our tierle what a government with

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Speaker 18: a greenheart will offer our country. A country that upholds

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Speaker 18: the Titi l White Hongi, that takes real action on

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Speaker 18: climate change and lifts people out of poverty.

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Speaker 14: There you go.

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Speaker 15: That's what the Greens were offering, is so go out

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Speaker 15: and vote next year because they'll be part of the coalition.

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Speaker 15: Government of labor has anything to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, you are very thing.

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Speaker 15: It is true, isn't it. What I'm saying is unless

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Speaker 15: labor can win in its own role.

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Speaker 4: I'm still busy on your complete inability to just handle

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Speaker 4: different pronouns. Oh here, I am glad Bushy's gone. I'm

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Speaker 4: glad Bussy's gone. So that the BSA complains about you

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Speaker 4: and your inability to do it end.

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Speaker 15: Well, the BSA should end. That's what I thought.

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Speaker 4: Okay, very so for senior political correspondent, thanks very much.

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Speaker 4: Away from five.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast job.

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Speaker 2: Ads are up, so it is at the bottom. Are

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Speaker 2: better times coming?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 20: There were two indicators in there that were positive, so

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Speaker 20: there was really strong growth in the hour's work that

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Speaker 20: was up zero point nine percent for the period. So

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Speaker 20: that's positive because of course when people are working more hours,

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Speaker 20: that suggests there's more activity going on in the economy

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Speaker 20: and they're able to get more income to their family. Also,

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Speaker 20: there's been a shift away from part time to full

653
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Speaker 20: time employment because you have the full time employment rate

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Speaker 20: up in the part time rate down a bit. So

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Speaker 20: those are two positive indicators.

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Speaker 21: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: the Defendant News talk z' b.

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Speaker 4: It's five away from five. Mike Davidson, the one that

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Speaker 4: Barry was just talking about, who's the new Green MP?

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Speaker 4: I got an email through now I don't know you

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Speaker 4: remember this is the one who actually he was elected

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Speaker 4: to some like christ Church Council type affair and then

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Speaker 4: also became an MP and decided he's going to do

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Speaker 4: both of them. He's got an email about that. Have

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Speaker 4: just had it confirm that Mike Davidson's Mike Davidson is

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Speaker 4: an apology for the inaugural meeting of the Why Papa

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Speaker 4: Papa Nui in a Central Community Board meeting at four today,

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Speaker 4: which is happening right now. He's not even zooming in.

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Speaker 4: Apparently the board is unable to have their group photo

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Speaker 4: taken and more importantly, the innisward will not have a

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Speaker 4: full complement of community board reps until December. If he

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Speaker 4: can make that meeting. This is exactly what he said

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Speaker 4: would not happen. What are let down for residents. I mean,

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Speaker 4: did we expect anything else? You can hardly do two

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Speaker 4: jobs at once, can you. Now, As I was saying

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Speaker 4: about the Marty Party, So if you've been following this business,

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Speaker 4: you will know that the Marty Party has apparently agreed

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Speaker 4: that they were going to cut out the social media attacks.

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Speaker 22: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's what they told Baden Barber when he flew down

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Speaker 4: to Wellington to act as an interventionist here. They said,

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Speaker 4: now we're going to cut it out. Well, somebody must

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Speaker 4: have forgotten to tell old mate Kiddy, who is the

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Speaker 4: daughter of John Thummerheada and the wife of rahworiwy Titi.

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Speaker 4: She's been all over social media just ragging on the others. No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to stop. I was silent for a

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Speaker 4: very long time. What's happened is she's done like a

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Speaker 4: kind of like ask me anything type thing. Sounds like

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Speaker 4: she's been doing it for two whole days.

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Speaker 17: None of us, none of us are willing to go

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Speaker 17: down without a fights.

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Speaker 4: That's a good thing. Yeah, and apparently this is all

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Speaker 4: normal for political parties.

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Speaker 16: Everybody's looking at us like the world is about the

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Speaker 16: Tymighty is about to come crumble because we're having some

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Speaker 16: scraps that have to come out into the social media

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Speaker 16: to find out. We need to grow a spine, right,

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Speaker 16: these things are normal.

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Speaker 4: And it's not going to stop. Apparently, huh.

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Speaker 23: Next minute, we want to stand in our truth and

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Speaker 23: all of a sudden it's not allowed. It's not allowed

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Speaker 23: because we don't want this tip tent on social media.

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Speaker 4: We don't want all of these things happening on social media.

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Speaker 4: Well too bad m Yeah, because putting it out on

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Speaker 4: social media is an awesome look for you. Mate's with

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Speaker 4: people like that in the party anyway. As I said,

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Speaker 4: Baden Barber's met with Takuo to Fairest today. Apparently it's gone. Well,

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Speaker 4: we'll hopefully try and get Baden on. Maybe you can

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Speaker 4: explain what the hell is going on. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: know what he thinks of Kitty actually, not not Kitty

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Speaker 4: on social media, just Kitty as a person, because sounds interesting, eh,

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Speaker 4: sounds like a really interesting character. Make Mitchell is going

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Speaker 4: to be this next police minister on JEFM mcskimming pleading guilty.

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Speaker 4: News Dogs at.

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Speaker 1: Be the only drive show you can try the truck

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Speaker 1: to ask the questions, get the answers, find the fat

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Speaker 1: sack and give the analysis here the duplicy Ellen drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

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Speaker 1: news dogs that be.

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Speaker 4: Afternoon. It's been confirmed that Marwi gas Field will close.

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Speaker 4: The confirmation came in official documents which have been released

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Speaker 4: and they have redacted exactly when the closure will happen though.

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Speaker 4: Resources Minister Shane Jones is with us.

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Speaker 24: High Shane, Hi, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell us when the closure is happening?

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Speaker 24: No, sadly that information exclusively lies with the asset owner.

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Speaker 4: Is it December next year?

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Speaker 24: Anyway? As I said, can you rule.

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Speaker 4: Out its December next year?

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Speaker 24: Now, what I'd say is that we're suffering a decline

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Speaker 24: and the known reserves from those historically large sites and

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Speaker 24: they're working through the process. It's up to them to

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Speaker 24: identify when it will actually cease.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it looks here's the thing, Shaney, this

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Speaker 4: is the rumor that's going around everybody's talking about being

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Speaker 4: December next year. If that's the case, when are they

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Speaker 4: going to announce it, Like, how far before it actually happens?

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Speaker 4: Because is this something we're going to be dealing with

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Speaker 4: an election time for you?

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Speaker 24: Well, whichever way we cut it, it's a bigger of

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Speaker 24: a problem because we've grown up with gas I don't

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Speaker 24: know to five dollars a unit, and it's declining and

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Speaker 24: for the last six to odd years there's been no

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Speaker 24: incentive to continue. It has an impact, no doubt on

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Speaker 24: methin X, which is an employer. So I don't want

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Speaker 24: to trivialize this the scale of this issue in terms

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Speaker 24: of its impact on Tonmuchy, which is why I'm a

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Speaker 24: great supporter for accelerating the Einstein's mining off the coast

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Speaker 24: of Totenucky.

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Speaker 4: So if Marwi closes, which is going to happen, does

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Speaker 4: that necessarily mean that methin X closes as well?

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Speaker 25: Well.

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Speaker 24: Methinex the Canadian known firm. They for each winter tend

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Speaker 24: to burlough some of their assets, ie they sell the

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Speaker 24: gas into the market when there's a shortage for electricity purposes.

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Speaker 24: And that's led to a god awful squabble between the

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Speaker 24: industrial users, the Crown users, and the electricity users. And

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Speaker 24: the electricity because I will pay over the odds to

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Speaker 24: keep the lights on, they tend to dominate the buying power.

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Speaker 24: So we need more gas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you haven't answered my question though. If mar Wei closes,

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Speaker 4: does that necessarily mean method X closes.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well, once again, it's really up to the CEO

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Speaker 24: and the managers and where else do they.

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Speaker 4: Get the gas from those shine they have to close.

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Speaker 24: I'll tell you what The next person you should have

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Speaker 24: on the show is the CEO of Methodics and let

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Speaker 24: them explain how they're going to run their business.

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Speaker 4: How much gas do we lose from marw we closing.

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Speaker 24: Well, they've been trying to squeeze as much gas as

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Speaker 24: possible out and what they've found is that as they

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Speaker 24: get to a point where the gas is infused with

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Speaker 24: either too much water hydrogen, it no longer becomes commercial.

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Speaker 24: And let's not dance on the head of a pin.

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Speaker 24: I don't want to ruin your show. The reality is

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Speaker 24: we are struggling to maintain supplies of gas and it's

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Speaker 24: forcing up the cost of industry fuel costs and energy.

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Speaker 24: But I wouldn't want to look. I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 24: say anything on the show that unnecessarily speaks everyone. It's

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Speaker 24: up to these two commercial people to identify it. And

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Speaker 24: obviously our officials are giving us various options in relation

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Speaker 24: to electricity I mean, as we decrease our utilization of gas,

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Speaker 24: we're going to have to use more coal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think that the truth. Shane, Thank you

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Speaker 4: very much, appreciate it. Shane Jones, Resources.

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Speaker 2: Minister ever dupuy Allen Fire An.

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Speaker 4: Emergency is looking at cutting jobs as it tries to

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Speaker 4: save apparently fifty million dollars a year. Now, a consultation

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Speaker 4: document is going to be sent to the staff next

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Speaker 4: week and final decisions will be made just before Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Fire and Emergency says no call takers and no firefighters

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Speaker 4: are going to lose their jobs. Warty Watson is National

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Speaker 4: secretary for the union, the Professional Firefighters Union with us now,

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Speaker 4: hey what e Hi, how are you doing? I'm well,

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Speaker 4: thank you. So they might not cut firefighters, but are

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Speaker 4: you worried they're not going to add new recruits?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, well they pretty much. They are shimmering around this.

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Speaker 22: So a part of the outcome of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 22: two settlement of our Collective Agreement was a working party

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Speaker 22: to look at the ratios of the number of firefighters

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Speaker 22: needed to ensure trucks aren't going offline, in stations aren't

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Speaker 22: closing just for shifts just due to the pure fact

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Speaker 22: that we don't have enough firefighters. We haven't really increased

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Speaker 22: firefighter numbers much at all since the nineteen nineties, and

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Speaker 22: there's a whole lot of pressures on firefighters, including trainings,

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Speaker 22: to comments they leave, of course, in injuries, etc. Which

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Speaker 22: means the ratio needs to change.

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Speaker 5: That work was.

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Speaker 22: Done fensa's own documents and work that they wanted. They

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Speaker 22: came up with a number of two hundred and fifty two.

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Speaker 22: I think it was there was a number that they

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Speaker 22: came up with additional firefighters, and then that just seemed

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Speaker 22: to stall. We've always been really clear that that number

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Speaker 22: would be dependent on what's actually happening in the districts etc.

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Speaker 22: And might not be consistent throughout. Some districts might not

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Speaker 22: need additional firefighters, but we actually have to do that

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Speaker 22: work and implement where it is absolutely needed. They'll just

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Speaker 22: keep they just won't give us an answer. They've canceled

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Speaker 22: the recruit course in January next year. They're claiming that's

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Speaker 22: because we're over establishment, which is just rubbish. What was

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Speaker 22: happening was, for example, Auckland was in desperate need of

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Speaker 22: the additional firefighters. Their management worked with the union to

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Speaker 22: implement a relief roster and recruited in for that roster

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Speaker 22: to keep the stations open. And our fenders now claiming

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Speaker 22: that's only temporary and that wasn't done with approval. So

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Speaker 22: we've got some real worries there. The recruit course that

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Speaker 22: was being canceled next year in January, that actually impacts

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Speaker 22: on the normal recruiting, not just if there was going

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Speaker 22: to be any additional firefighters. So I think firefighter numbers

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Speaker 22: will be affected. I don't think firefighters in their job

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Speaker 22: right now will lose their jobs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but a little bit will have it. Yeah, what'll happen.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for running us through that. It's Waddy Watson,

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Speaker 4: Professional Firefighters Union, National Secretaries, thirteen past five.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for Cela either.

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Speaker 4: I just tuned into iHeartRadio to listen to you and

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Speaker 4: guess what there was an ad for the West Indies

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Speaker 4: cricket matches. Well, there you go. There are summer hats

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Speaker 4: out there. You have to know what you're looking for. Now, listen,

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Speaker 4: if anybody is going to like surely, if anybody in

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Speaker 4: this country is going to get a Michelin start, it's

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Speaker 4: got to be the guys at Amersfield in Arrowtown, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they've got to be like these guys have

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Speaker 4: got to be a shoe in. These guys win so

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Speaker 4: many awards down in Amasfield is actually ridiculous. This year

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Speaker 4: they were named New Zealand's Restaurant of the Year. Also

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Speaker 4: happened in twenty twenty three. Also happened in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Also happened in twenty twenty one. Also happened in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty Do you see what I'm saying? And then also

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Speaker 4: not only that, but also earlier this year they were

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Speaker 4: named the third best restaurant in the world by the

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Speaker 4: influential US culinary magazine Food and Wine. So they're issue

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Speaker 4: and aren't they? Ben Bailey wonder how I wonder Ben

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Speaker 4: Bailey woke up to the news. You know who Ben

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Speaker 4: Bailey is A Ben Bailey, Ben Bailey, Ben Bailey, the

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Speaker 4: guy who does all the cool food ah and he

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Speaker 4: also does it if you have kids. You know the

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Speaker 4: one up in Henderson, you know the studio studios with

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Speaker 4: the cool net thing. He does that great little cafe.

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Speaker 4: We woke him up. He's over somewhere in China. We

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Speaker 4: woke him up with the news. He's pretty excited. I

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Speaker 4: wonder if he what I'd like to know from him.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be with us after half pass. Is

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Speaker 4: when we told him the news, did he immediately go

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Speaker 4: that's my life goal. I want one of those stars

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Speaker 4: or you know, like it was like, yep, that's I'm

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Speaker 4: going to get it too. He's with us after half passed.

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Speaker 4: It's quarter pass right now. So sad news for me.

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Speaker 4: I had to give up the ute, I had to

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Speaker 4: give back the BYD Shark six. You but it's not

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Speaker 4: that bad because now what they've done is they've chucked

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Speaker 4: me in a Sea Lion seven, which is like a

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Speaker 4: little suv. And let me tell you it is a

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Speaker 4: handsome car to the extent that had got the attention

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Speaker 4: of the builder who was around the other day who

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Speaker 4: wanted to know all about it. Looks beautiful, beautiful leather seats,

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Speaker 4: really goes at a clip on the modorway. Now that

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Speaker 4: is the Sea Lion seven. That one's already in market,

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Speaker 4: but there are more coming from BYD. You got the

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Speaker 4: Atto one, the Atto two, the Sea Lion five. He's

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Speaker 4: all going to be released and tonight's the big reveal.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to hear about the pricing. You

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Speaker 4: want to hear about the specs. You want to tune

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Speaker 4: into the Ecotricity YouTube channel tonight at seven o'clock and

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Speaker 4: you're going to want to hear about this, especially if

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Speaker 4: you're interested in something about the size of the Suzuki

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Speaker 4: Swift and also around about that price. You're looking at

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Speaker 4: the ATTO one. It's expected to be the most affordable

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Speaker 4: EV in New Zealand and it will represent a groundbreaking

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Speaker 4: moment where the EV's become cheaper than the petrol or

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Speaker 4: diesel versions. So tune in tonight seven o'clock after the

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Speaker 4: show at the Eco Tricity YouTube channel and also check

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Speaker 4: it out online bydy Aulto dot co dot NZ.

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Speaker 2: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duplicyll and Drive with One Zealand coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 4: News Talks b nineteen past five. Now Jeff mcskimming has

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Speaker 4: pleaded guilty to possessing child sexual exploitation and bestiality images

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Speaker 4: on his work devices. He's obviously the former Deputy Police

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Speaker 4: Commissioner charges of possessing the objection of warmentarial today in

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Speaker 4: the Wellington District Course. He actually faced eight charges but

902
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Speaker 4: it's been reduced. He's going to be sentenced next month

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Speaker 4: on the seventeenth. Mark Mitchell is the Policemanister. HOI Mitch, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 4: Are you relieved this is over?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: I'm very pleased that Tom he's pleaded guilty, you know,

907
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Speaker 21: and it allows people to have some closure on this.

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Speaker 21: I mean, it was just it was abhorrent behavior and

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Speaker 21: this is without the right This is definitely the right result,

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Speaker 21: and it just underlines that no one is above the law.

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Speaker 4: Did you know about this before you appointed the police commissioner,

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Speaker 4: which he was in the running for.

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Speaker 21: So I'm not going to go into too much detail,

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Speaker 21: o than to say this to you is that I'm

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Speaker 21: becoming Policemanister. I had some real challenges to deal with

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Speaker 21: JIVAM skimming was one of them, and I'm still working

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Speaker 21: through some of those challenges.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean by that, Well.

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Speaker 21: I'm not going to go I'm not going to elaborate

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Speaker 21: and go into it anymore than say that simple thing

921
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Speaker 21: or they're not simple things. Actually they are really important

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Speaker 21: things like taking our recruit course from sixteen weeks back

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Speaker 21: to twent weeks. Police are moving away from an overuse

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Speaker 21: of discretion. You know that a previous government that had

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Speaker 21: a heavy focus on DEI and understanding police delivery, which

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Speaker 21: was basically calling the service racist and biased. All the

927
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Speaker 21: focus in the wrong places, and what you end up happening,

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Speaker 21: as you end up happening this sort of thing happening

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Speaker 21: where there's a loss of integrity and a degradation of standards.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you think this has caused reputational damage to

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Speaker 4: the police.

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Speaker 21: Unfortunately, it probably has, and I find that very frustrating

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Speaker 21: because for every one officer, and it's a big organization,

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Speaker 21: and so you're always going to have some people that

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Speaker 21: don't uphold the standards, but most of our police officers do.

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Speaker 21: They're out there every day, they're doing tens of thousands

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Speaker 21: of positive acts. I've been to two awards ceremonies of

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Speaker 21: the last week. Most of the awards handed out to

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Speaker 21: police officers who have saved members of the public's public lives,

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Speaker 21: and they are all let down. No one feels more

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Speaker 21: let down when you get a rogue police officer that

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Speaker 21: behaves like this than our front line. And they deserve

943
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Speaker 21: our admiration, they deserve our respect, and they deserve our support.

944
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Speaker 21: And when we do identify a bad apple in the barrel,

945
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Speaker 21: then it's just got to be dealt with quickly.

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Speaker 4: Does he get to keep his police pension or any

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Speaker 4: kind of perks from having been an officer?

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Speaker 21: Look, I don't know that. I'd have to check that

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Speaker 21: and come back to you, but all I can say

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Speaker 21: to you is that as soon as I became aware

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Speaker 21: of this, you know that the details of some of

952
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Speaker 21: the behavior, then I moved quickly to suspension. And then

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Speaker 21: you saw that had he not resigned, it was very

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Speaker 21: clear that he was going to be moved on by.

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Speaker 4: Us, Mitch, and there was an order obviously that was done.

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Speaker 4: This was after he was busted doing this, and other

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Speaker 4: officers also have some material on their phones. How many more?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, because we've got a commissioner now that's been appointed

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Speaker 21: by us, that is back focused on talking about well,

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Speaker 21: I'm not going to divide. That's an operational metaphor the

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Speaker 21: commissioner to talk to, not for me. But I just

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Speaker 21: underline the fact that both the commissioner and myself have

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Speaker 21: been very clear that we have got a big focus

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Speaker 21: on standards and integrity. They are non negotiable and they're

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Speaker 21: critically important for any organization. But in particular an organization

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Speaker 21: like the police.

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Speaker 4: Mitch, thank you so much for your time. Make Mitchell

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Speaker 4: police minister. Right, let's talk about Allie Katoa. Next five

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Speaker 4: two the.

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Speaker 1: Name you trumped to get the answers you need, it's

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else us talk.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five past five.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 4: The good news is that Ali Katoa has woken up

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Speaker 4: from his brain injury and his uncle says that he

978
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Speaker 4: is stable in hospital. But really the bad news is

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Speaker 4: that the excuses for how this guy was allowed onto

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Speaker 4: the field after that head not just don't wash do that.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've had days of this now, right, if

982
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Speaker 4: you go and find the footage online, you're probably going

983
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Speaker 4: to come across the video with the Fox League commentators

984
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Speaker 4: talking over the top of the footage before the game

985
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Speaker 4: has started, and they indicate, Wow, that's a really big

986
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Speaker 4: head knock. He hasn't been ruled out just yet, almost

987
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Speaker 4: as if they like not almost as absolutely as if

988
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Speaker 4: they are expecting him to be ruled out of the

989
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Speaker 4: game any minute because of what has happened. And yet

990
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Speaker 4: he didn't get ruled out. He ran on. Now the

991
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Speaker 4: tongue and officials are saying that that had they seen

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Speaker 4: the footage, they would not have led him onto the field,

993
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Speaker 4: which I actually find really hard to believe. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we have to give them the benefit of the doubt

995
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Speaker 4: without any evidence to the contrary. But it is really

996
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Speaker 4: hard to believe, isn't it that, in the age of

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Speaker 4: social media and mobile phones a head knock that happened

998
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Speaker 4: possibly half an hour before a game and was brutal

999
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Speaker 4: enough to make Sean Johnson say he felt sick wasn't

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Speaker 4: drawn to their attention with a video or a text

1001
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Speaker 4: through to a phone. But what's worse actually is that

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Speaker 4: they might not have seen it, but the very people

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Speaker 4: who should have seen it to keep him off the

1004
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Speaker 4: field actually knew about it. Two very experienced doctors from

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Speaker 4: the tongue and team were aware, but they didn't do

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Speaker 4: an hia and they just sent him on to play,

1007
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Speaker 4: and then look what happened. Now. The thing is rugby

1008
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: in all of its forms, whether it's rugby league or

1009
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Speaker 4: rugby union, can do all that they like to convince

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Speaker 4: us that they are taking head knocks seriously. But when

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00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: a head knock like this, which is caught on camera,

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Speaker 4: and which has drawn to the attention of the necessary doctors,

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Speaker 4: is ignored, and then is allowed to happen two more

1014
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Speaker 4: times in a game before a man has a CJ

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Speaker 4: needs brain surgery. When that happens, all the good is undone.

1016
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Speaker 4: And let me tell you, mothers everywhere remind themselves yet

1017
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Speaker 4: again why their sons will never be allowed to play rugby.

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Speaker 2: Father do for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Megan Michael's back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about this. She's going

1022
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Speaker 4: back to acting apparently, like not as in like I

1023
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Speaker 4: think I make it like she's actually in a movie.

1024
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Speaker 4: She's been cast already. The movie is called Close Personal Friends.

1025
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Speaker 4: It stars Lily Collins, Bree Larsen, Henry Golding, and Jack Quaid, who,

1026
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Speaker 4: by the way, incidentally is the son of Dennis Quaid

1027
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Speaker 4: and Meg Ryan. And apparently it follows two couples. One

1028
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Speaker 4: couple is famous and one couple is not famous. And

1029
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Speaker 4: Megan is going to be playing herself. Now I don't

1030
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Speaker 4: know about that. I mean, that is that is call

1031
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Speaker 4: That's something, isn't it a member of the royal family

1032
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Speaker 4: working or not, but a member of the royal family

1033
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Speaker 4: who gets back into acting is a bit like but

1034
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Speaker 4: like the opposite side of the spectrum, isn't it so? Anyway,

1035
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Speaker 4: if you like your Meghan Markle or if you just

1036
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Speaker 4: want to rage, watch the movie coming out for you.

1037
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Speaker 4: News is next, and then Ben Bailey on the Mitchell

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Speaker 4: and Star idea, some Tim and me.

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Speaker 1: Little on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and

1040
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Speaker 1: in your car on your drive home, it's heatherdal to

1041
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Speaker 1: c Ellen drive with one New Zealand hand of power

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Speaker 1: of satellite mobile news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 14: Right.

1045
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Speaker 4: I'm going to keep you across the latest with the

1046
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Speaker 4: Malordi party, and then we're going to talk to Baden

1047
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Speaker 4: Barber about it for an update after six o'clock. Hear

1048
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Speaker 4: the player responsibility. Why didn't he say, hey, coach, I've

1049
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Speaker 4: had a areous head knock ian excellent question. Why didn't

1050
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 4: he say it? Why didn't the guy who ran into

1051
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: him say it? Why didn't all the other players who

1052
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: were standing around and saw how bad that was say

1053
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Speaker 4: to somebody that dude had a really bad head knock.

1054
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Speaker 4: He shouldn't be on. I bet they're all regretting it now.

1055
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Speaker 4: What a lesson? A twenty four away from sex. Now

1056
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Speaker 4: the New Zealand. New Zealand may get some Michelin stars

1057
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Speaker 4: because the government has, through Tourism New Zealand, sunk six

1058
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: point three million dollars into bringing the Guide here. Tourism

1059
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 4: new Zealand has put the money in and it's initially

1060
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Speaker 4: going to focus on Auckland, Wellington, christ Us and Queenstown.

1061
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Speaker 4: Are he Executive chef Ben Bailey is with us now?

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Speaker 14: Hi? Ben?

1063
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Speaker 6: Hello? Hell?

1064
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Speaker 22: Are you?

1065
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Speaker 4: I'm very well? Are you excited about this?

1066
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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 6: Jack, Yeah, I'm so happy this is This is going

1068
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Speaker 6: to be grateful New Zealand for hospitality especially. It's going

1069
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Speaker 6: to give us credibility. It's going to validate all of

1070
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Speaker 6: our hard work. And you know, let's face so, gastronomic

1071
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Speaker 6: tourism right now is huge. People are traveling all over

1072
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Speaker 6: the world to eat food. That is their main driver

1073
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Speaker 6: for coming to countries.

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Speaker 4: Now did you think are people who honestly just say

1075
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Speaker 4: I'm going to go to New Zealand to eat my

1076
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Speaker 4: way around the place, not events, not skiing, not sight seeing,

1077
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Speaker 4: just food.

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Speaker 6: Of course I'll do other stuff, right, but we see

1079
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Speaker 6: like last summer huge amount of Americans through It was

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Speaker 6: almost like I wanted to have a map of America

1081
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Speaker 6: and start putting all the cities from all our visitors

1082
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Speaker 6: from around the States, and they come here and they

1083
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Speaker 6: are searching out what is New Zealand food? What is

1084
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Speaker 6: our cuisine? And it's you know, thirty percent of the

1085
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Speaker 6: tourism spend is spent on dining, so it is a

1086
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Speaker 6: big thing. And up with golfing and hunting and stuff

1087
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Speaker 6: like that. There are diners around the world who go

1088
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Speaker 6: to countries just to eat. You look at how gashronomic

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Speaker 6: tourism has changed places like Tokyo Osaka or even San

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Speaker 6: Sebastian and Spain. Places like Mexico, people are traveling their

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Speaker 6: fourth food.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that we are at the quality to

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Speaker 4: be able to earn Michelin stars.

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Speaker 6: We're definitely going to get some one hundred percent. I

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Speaker 6: mean I spent my twenties and early thirty working in one,

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Speaker 6: two and three star restaurants, so we know the level.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's some restaurants that will get three stars,

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Speaker 6: maybe one or two, and there'll be some that will

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Speaker 6: get to and quite.

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Speaker 4: A few of them will get one three stars.

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Speaker 6: Definitely, born in Amersfield might be down in Amasfield. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know that it's just exceptional food and very low

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Speaker 6: amount of covers. I mean, getting three stars is a

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Speaker 6: huge athlete. I think it's only about one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty restaurants in the world with three stars. And you

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00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 6: know it doesn't that wouldn't really suit our sort of

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Speaker 6: you know, Antimothy and or Key we dining or hospitality.

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Speaker 6: We like sort of atmosphere and we like to have

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 6: a vibe, we like to have fun, sort of be

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Speaker 6: more suited to the one and two star I think.

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Speaker 6: But there's a huge amount of criteria. Foods just one

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Speaker 6: part of the Michelin Guide, judging the dining room, you know,

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Speaker 6: the atmosphere. They even measure the bathrooms, I think, so

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Speaker 6: you know, it's quite mysterious how they're judged too. Yeah,

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00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: there's there's so many things that go in.

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Speaker 4: So they make sure that the bathrooms are big enough.

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: You've got to have bathroom, You've got to have the

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Speaker 6: right type of bathrooms. You've got to think about the

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Speaker 6: whole experience, right and often even in three mission stars,

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Speaker 6: it'll be about the experience of the morning when you

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Speaker 6: wake up. What is the gift you get when you leave?

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 6: Do they make a little granola for you to give

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Speaker 6: you a little bag of saldo to take home. So

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Speaker 6: when you wake up in the morning, you think about

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Speaker 6: the restaurant, right, So how.

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Speaker 10: Far do you want to go get one?

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Speaker 4: Do you reconbent?

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Speaker 6: I'll be disappointed if I don't. But you know, especially

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Speaker 6: for a he I mean that's sort of you know,

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00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: you know, I think that we're at that level just

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Speaker 6: judging by I mean, I'm in Shanghai right now doing

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Speaker 6: an Hi pop up and I've just ate another three

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00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 6: star two nights ago, and so you get to compare

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00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 6: yourself with other restaurants and stuff like that. So I

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Speaker 6: think would be we'll get a start maybe too.

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: You run the food joint out at WOWA Studios in Henderson,

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: don't you.

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Speaker 22: I did.

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00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I founded it and I've since sort of passed

1140
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Speaker 6: it on to our general manager. But yeah, that was.

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Speaker 4: What a great idea.

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Speaker 6: I've been dying.

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Speaker 4: I've been dying to talk to you about it because

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00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 4: there just isn't enough of this stuff around where parents

1145
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: can go and sit in a nice place and let

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Speaker 4: their kids play.

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Speaker 6: A But I think things have changed now where you

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00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 6: think might be a fancy restaurant, like you know how

1149
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 6: people dress. You know, all these sort of like sort

1150
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 6: of snobbery around sort of fine dining of flash restaurants

1151
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 6: has gone, especially with key we dining. So you know

1152
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 6: you can bring your kid to any flash restaurant in

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 6: New Zealand now, no problem.

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00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, Ben, good luck with Shanghai, and thank you

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Speaker 4: for talking to us, mate, and good luck getting a star.

1156
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you will. Ben Bailey, executive chef at Ahi

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: and host of New Zealand Food Story. It's nineteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the

1159
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Speaker 1: global leader in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 4: Somebody has just sent me a link to the story

1161
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: about Dame Knowles that has dropped today. I am aware

1162
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: of it and I am going to talk to you

1163
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 4: about it before six, So stay tune because you're going

1164
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: to want to hear this with me on the huddle.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I have Jordan Williams and also Ali Jones

1166
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Speaker 4: of Red Pa. Hello you too, Okay, Jordan? Do you

1167
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: think that's money well spent for the Michelin star business? Uh?

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Speaker 25: Oh, look cool for it's cool for them, Okay? Is

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00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 25: it a good use of six and a half million

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Speaker 25: dollars of the Zeland taxpayers money. Absolutely not to think

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Speaker 25: as I mean, look I'm just I'm just back from Spain. Yeah,

1172
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 25: and we had you know, it was it was Americans paying.

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00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 25: It was wonderful. We met most incredible food and Valencia,

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Speaker 25: and it would probably affect something like that. You know

1175
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 25: what restaurants you went to. Would you go to Spain

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Speaker 25: and would you come to the Zeland because they're a

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Speaker 25: mission star restaurant? Clearly not. You come because of the

1178
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 25: incredible food and the like, and it's nice for them.

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Speaker 4: The argument is that if you're thinking about you, you're

1180
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: stitching together on item Mary, and you think, shall I

1181
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: go to Melbourne or shall I go to Queenstown, And

1182
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 4: you look at all the things you can do. Well,

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00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Queenstown's got a whole bunch of

1184
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 4: Michelin Stars, and so the whole level of the thing

1185
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Speaker 4: goes up for you pick it.

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 25: Look for a return for you know, six and a

1187
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 25: half million dollars you're going to get what if in

1188
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 25: order at least one hundred million in extra spending from

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00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 25: international tourists to justify that sort of spent. Clearly not either.

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Speaker 25: I mean that's the You've got to look at the counterfactual.

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 25: That's six and a half million dollars out of the

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00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 25: economy from the taxpayers to spend on it. It actually

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Speaker 25: suggests that the quality of spending from tourism Zealand is poor.

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00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 25: Look for those restaurant here is that could get one

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Speaker 25: amazing Will it affect the restaurants that lets you know,

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Speaker 25: I wouldn't probably not for me an age where I'm

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Speaker 25: not choosing to go to the best restaurants in the country,

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Speaker 25: But it will of them when i'm you know, when

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Speaker 25: I'm big, absolutely, and will it will it? Will it

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Speaker 25: mean that that justify the extra spend or result in

1201
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Speaker 25: extra spend?

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Speaker 4: It's totally wrong, Ellie, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 26: Well, I hear what Jordan's saying, and this is rare,

1204
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Speaker 26: but I tend to agree with him on this. But

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Speaker 26: look what I heard what you said earlier to Heather,

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Speaker 26: and I agree with you. I'm sitting on the fence here,

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Speaker 26: So rewarding those at the top of their game. Look,

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Speaker 26: I'm married to a chef, right and I like food,

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Speaker 26: so this is right up my alley.

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Speaker 5: No pun intended.

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Speaker 26: So rewarding those at the top of their game and

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Speaker 26: promoting you know, amazing products in New Zealand and our foods,

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Speaker 26: taking advantage of having that Michelin Lincoln and relationship, and

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00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 26: that's fabulous and so I support it generally, but with

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00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 26: a caveat. And what worries me is it feels a

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 26: little bit like let them eat cake. You know, as

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 26: Jordan said, six and a half million dollars being forked

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Speaker 26: out pun intended by the taxpayer, and we can't even

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Speaker 26: bloody afford mints. So at the moment, if they're going

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Speaker 26: to do stuff like this, that's great, but move along

1221
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 26: the opportunity for New Zealanders to enjoy the food that

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Speaker 26: we produce. I mean, Luxeon said in his standard up today,

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Speaker 26: what do you say? It's that New Zealand is a

1224
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 26: really fortunate country in being able to grow high quality

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 26: food for the world. Yes, thanks Chris, but could you

1226
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 26: actually let some New zealand eat in New Zealanders eat

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 26: some of that food as well? So yeah, look, I

1228
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 26: like the idea. I think it is going to bring

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Speaker 26: in the high spend, the high end tourism, people who

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 26: come here for golf, people who.

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Speaker 5: Come here to eat.

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Speaker 26: But six and a half million dollars of taxpayers money

1233
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 26: when we can't afford mints.

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Speaker 4: Come on, okay, we'll take a break. Come back to

1235
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Speaker 4: you guys shortly sixteen away from six the Huddle with.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your one of a kind.

1237
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Speaker 4: Okay, back on the Huddle, We've got Jordan Williams and

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Speaker 4: Ellie Jones. Now, Jordan, I have to ask you this question.

1239
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Speaker 4: Obviously because you live in Auckland. Chloe reckons that we're

1240
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Speaker 4: being hysterical about the homelessness issue.

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Speaker 25: What do you think, Well, I'd be hysterical too, but

1242
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Speaker 25: probably from the other side of it. I really struggle

1243
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Speaker 25: coming back to Auckland when I've spent a time in

1244
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Speaker 25: the South Island and you go back and walk down

1245
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Speaker 25: Queen Street is just a disgrace. Anyone who has visited

1246
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Speaker 25: Rotea U since COVID would would see the same thing.

1247
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 25: It's not being able to move people on, which has

1248
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 25: looked to be what the government is looking to do

1249
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 25: is a start, but the real issue is is that

1250
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 25: you don't necessarily have people to move them on too.

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Speaker 25: You know, since the eighties, where we've removed institutions or

1252
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 25: places to put people with mental health problems. It is

1253
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 25: the real issue, and it could. I mean, it's probably

1254
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Speaker 25: a good start. Look, I am pretty concerned about homelessness

1255
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Speaker 25: and the degree to which allowing homeless people to congregate

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Speaker 25: it does bring down the feeling of a city. I

1257
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Speaker 25: am posting international visitor at the moment and that we

1258
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 25: put them up in cbd Auckland, and I was ashamed

1259
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Speaker 25: of the homeless peace people were sitting outside. It is

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Speaker 25: a Queen Street is now a dangerous place at night.

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Speaker 4: I don't think what do you reckon, yeap Allie. What

1262
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Speaker 4: do you think of the idea of moving people on?

1263
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Speaker 4: Are you comfortable with that?

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Speaker 26: Well, I'm more uncomfortable with the fact that I'm agreeing

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Speaker 26: with virtually everything Jordan is saying today, which is concerning

1266
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Speaker 26: me greatly. Yet, Look, I don't I haven't had a

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Speaker 26: look at Queen Street for a long time, and we

1268
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 26: do have a little bit of an issue here. It's

1269
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Speaker 26: been an issue around Valentine's and the city mall, and

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Speaker 26: even in my local Edgeway village there are some issues

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Speaker 26: there as well, and alcohol is the problem there and

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Speaker 26: we're trying to get alcohol banned from you know, when

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 26: they got ridat drinking alcohol in.

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Speaker 25: A public place rule it was to all law.

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Speaker 6: It was madness.

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Speaker 26: I think Jordan's right though, we need to know what

1277
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 26: the problem is. And again we're trying to fix the

1278
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 26: problem without actually knowing.

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Speaker 6: What the problem is. We're trying to fix it in

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Speaker 6: the mental health is well.

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 26: Look is it mental health? Is it addiction?

1282
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: Is it polity?

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Speaker 26: Is it a combination? Because if you don't know, because

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Speaker 26: they're all different issues, Jordan, and if you don't know

1285
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Speaker 26: what they are, how do you know how.

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Speaker 24: To fix it?

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Speaker 25: We do? I mean, there's you have a social wealthy

1288
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Speaker 25: safety yet you know the government will even put you

1289
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Speaker 25: up in a hotel if it's at an absolute emergency.

1290
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Speaker 25: People choosing to live on the streets or not having

1291
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Speaker 25: a social wealthy system where there is zero requirements or expectations.

1292
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Speaker 6: To dig out.

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Speaker 25: And the thing is it didn't go police. We're not

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Speaker 25: able just to move people on, able to take them

1295
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Speaker 25: somewhere where had discipline that's now gone. You know, we've

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Speaker 25: removed that that I think, as I say, I mean,

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Speaker 25: I'm astonished that you consider it a problem across You've

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Speaker 25: spent when I spend time and as I say, in

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Speaker 25: christ or the South Island. I go back to Woockland

1300
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Speaker 25: and my first experience driving home as people knocking on

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Speaker 25: your window at the ourslie roundabout begging for money there

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Speaker 25: is Ye, it does seem police not either don't have

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Speaker 25: the powers or are not moving people along.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, but hang on a minute. What you said though, too,

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Speaker 26: that does make senses. We don't have the place for

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Speaker 26: those who are dealing with mental health and addictions.

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Speaker 25: There are not the same because we don't believe in

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Speaker 25: institutions anymore.

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Speaker 26: Well exactly, so we need to Well, that needs to

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Speaker 26: be addressed. And that's what I'm saying that if we

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Speaker 26: know what the issues are and how many of these

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Speaker 26: people that you're talking about edits or are dealing with

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Speaker 26: severe mental health that either can or can't be fixed

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Speaker 26: with medication, because we don't even know that.

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Speaker 25: But you can't do it if you know that you can't.

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Speaker 25: That's my point is that it is that we used

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Speaker 25: to the benchmark used to be a lot lower to

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Speaker 25: say you have to stay here and sort out your

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Speaker 25: addiction problem.

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Speaker 3: More.

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Speaker 26: We don't think you still can do that if they're

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Speaker 26: dealing with us before nineteen eighty exactly what we used

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Speaker 26: to do. But the agencies that are dealing with them

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Speaker 26: know the answers to these questions that should not be

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Speaker 26: a barrier that is not difficult to ascertain.

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Speaker 4: All Right, guys, listen, Thanks very much. It was really

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Speaker 4: instructive and discussion. I really appreciate it that that's ow

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Speaker 4: huddle this evening, Allie Jones, Jordan Williams. Let's talk about

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Speaker 4: Dame Noles next and the stuff that's dropped eight away

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Speaker 4: from six It's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by News Talk zb.

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Speaker 25: UH.

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Speaker 4: Here the youull panel today completely out of touch with reality.

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 4: We travel overseas every year skiing and we actively look

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Speaker 4: at dining options and making our decisions on where to go.

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Speaker 4: Six million dollars is nothing to encourage overseas investors when

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Speaker 4: the country spends ten times on ten times that on

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01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: benefits a day. Here the house narrow minded, these guys,

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Speaker 4: are you think small? You stay small? Hither? Your guests

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Speaker 4: have no idea? Read the Michelin star situation. Think big,

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Speaker 4: not the normal key we negative attitude. I don't have

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Speaker 4: a problem with six million because, as I said at

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Speaker 4: the start of the show, this is coming out of

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Speaker 4: the tourist New Zealand budget. It's coming out of money

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Speaker 4: that the international guys are already spending here, and it

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Speaker 4: would be spent on tourism anyway, right, it would be

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Speaker 4: spent on advertising or the Michelin Stars. So I'm happy

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Speaker 4: with the Michelin Stars. Now Dame Knowles five away from six.

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Speaker 4: Dame Knowles, it turns out is in trouble for what

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Speaker 4: she said in the interviews with Mike and various other

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Speaker 4: media on Monday. It's being reported it's understood that Netball

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Speaker 4: New Zealand has started a process to talk to Dame

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Speaker 4: Knowles about the tenor of some of her comments in

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Speaker 4: the media, which may have breached the terms of her

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: reinstatement agreement in a Netball In a statement, Netball New

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Speaker 4: Zealand confirmed it has met to discuss Dame Knowles's comments

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Speaker 4: made in media interviews and they can't comment further on that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, Netball New Zealand, could you look any worse?

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Speaker 4: Yes you could, Yes you could. You could look worse.

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Speaker 4: You could look worse by now punishing the coach for

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Speaker 4: the stuff that she said in the interviews. Give it go,

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Speaker 4: see how it goes. This is a background piece that

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Speaker 4: Arenz has done. I had actually been waiting for this

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Speaker 4: because I was told that it was going to land

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Speaker 4: a couple of interesting things and it The main issue,

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Speaker 4: if you can point to a single event, was that

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Speaker 4: during that camp. Remember we've talked about this. This all starts

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Speaker 4: at the camp New South Wales, and during that camp,

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Speaker 4: after one of the games, there was a quote emotional

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Speaker 4: and overly personal outburst from Dame Noles. But that is

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Speaker 4: not why she was stood down. She was stood down

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 4: apparently because of how she responded to the issues that

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Speaker 4: were raised, not because the players complained, but because of

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Speaker 4: how she responded. Also, Netble New Zealand is now basically

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes accusing her in this piece of running

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Speaker 4: a pr campaign against them. They're calling it a highly

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Speaker 4: orchestrated public campaign. It's not words they are using. This

1379
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 4: is how they've briefed the reporter, So the reporter's writing this.

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Speaker 4: A network of coaches, former players and even political figures

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Speaker 4: were briefed in to provide a voice for the veteran

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Speaker 4: coach in the dispute, Angry at what they saw as

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Speaker 4: Dame Knowles's mona and integrity under attack. Now I think

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Speaker 4: this is just let me tell you what's going on here.

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Speaker 4: This is Netble New Zealand finally responding right. Dame Knowles

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Speaker 4: has run rings around them when it comes to media

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Speaker 4: and PR relations, which is just what you expect in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five when you're trying to save your own reputation.

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: She's slayed it and now Netball New Zealand has finally

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01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: belatedly realized that. And this is them trying to get

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Speaker 4: back at her and try it too late night, too

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Speaker 4: late anyway worth a try, I suppose now Marty Party apparently,

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Speaker 4: So what's happened is the two rogues have turned up

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Speaker 4: to Parliament today's Mariamino Kapa Kingi and Tarkuter Ferris. But

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Speaker 4: then the leaders are not there because the party has

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01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: apparently for all intents and purposes, split in two already

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Speaker 4: and the staff are being asked to pick sides. And

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Speaker 4: it's basically two separate parties being run within the Marori

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Speaker 4: Party at the moment. So, as you know, Baden Barber

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Speaker 4: has flown down today to Wellington to talk to Tarku

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Speaker 4: to Ferris, which apparently was constructive. But meanwhile Katy Tamahead

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Speaker 4: is just mouthing off on social media, so we'll talk

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Speaker 4: to Baden about where things are out. Here's with us

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Speaker 4: next new stook said the.

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Speaker 12: Fuion We're business meets Inside Love a business hour with

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Speaker 12: Heather Duplicy, Allen and Maz for insurance investments and Kilie Safer.

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Speaker 2: You're in good hands news talk said b evening.

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Speaker 4: Coming up in the next hour is vonter are going

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Speaker 4: to drop its payout to below ten bucks of kilo?

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Speaker 4: The answer is probably dairy analyst Hugh Davison will talk

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Speaker 4: us through that. After half passed. Jamie McKay is going

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 4: to talk us through gold and Inde Brady's with us

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Speaker 4: out of the UK as well. At seven past six

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Speaker 4: now it is not looking that good for the Maori

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Speaker 4: Party in terms of a peace deal today. The EWE

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Speaker 4: leaders have met today with the rogue MP Taku the

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Speaker 4: Paris to try to brok or cease fire. But then

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Speaker 4: from the other side, shots are still being fired with

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Speaker 4: Kitty Tamahera, who's John Tamaherad his daughter and also at

1420
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 4: Arwerity Whitey is his wife still going on social media

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Speaker 4: after the last couple of days having her say. Baden

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Speaker 4: Barber is the chair of Nati Kahungungu, who was at

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Speaker 4: the meeting today. Hi Baden, Hey are good. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: So you met with taku To today and it was constructive.

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, yep it was.

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Speaker 4: What did you guys agree?

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Speaker 3: Well, we we offered to to host Hui and Pornicke

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Speaker 3: next week and it would be great for him to

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Speaker 3: come along to their meeting as we're trying to pull

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Speaker 3: together the factions, and so he he he offered, accepted

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Speaker 3: to come. He was, uh, you know he can see

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Speaker 3: that coming together face to face, this opportunity to build bridges.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so there was pleasing, very pleasing. And then,

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Speaker 3: like I say, we met with the co leaders on

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Speaker 3: Tuesday and to have an opportunity to speak with Tauta

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Speaker 3: even though Mariamna wasn't at the huy, we're still a

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Speaker 3: valuable exercised.

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Speaker 4: To why was he at the meeting?

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Speaker 25: Not too sure?

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Speaker 3: Not too sure? Yeah, said that he would be the

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Speaker 3: only one at the meeting. Kate, boy, it is what

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Speaker 3: it is, and uh it's so we had the meeting.

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Speaker 2: With Doc Baiden.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's because it's a lost cause with her,

1445
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 4: it's over with her?

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: No, not at all. I think she has has said

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Speaker 3: that she wants to meet with her people in the

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Speaker 3: North first before you know, other meetings, and so I'm

1449
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 3: assuming that's the reason why she was an inter meeting

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, what's going on with Ketty tamahead he because

1452
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: didn't the party just agree with you a couple of

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Speaker 4: days ago that they would stop firing shots on social

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Speaker 4: media and yet she continues to do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that there was a discussion. You know

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Speaker 3: these the party is is wider, I guess, and you've

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 3: got lots of different parts of the party. But when

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 3: we spoke to the coaches, you know there's a general

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Speaker 3: agreement from from themselves.

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Speaker 4: But like, isn't their own wife because you're talking to

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Speaker 4: Raweri and then the rowdy's missus goes on.

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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, yeah, we can only we can only

1463
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: encourage and ask At the end of the day, you know,

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 3: they're all adults and don't make their own choices.

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Speaker 4: Not helpful that I'd imagine. Listen, do you actually think,

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: be honest with me, you can't keep this together. This

1467
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: thing is going to fall apart.

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Speaker 3: We're going to give it our best shot, and you

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Speaker 3: know from from the discussions we had with Rowdy and

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Speaker 3: deb and also today with Takota. You know, there's still

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Speaker 3: a glimmer of hope and and that's what we let

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Speaker 3: you go onto. We've asked to bring up at the

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Speaker 3: Marai and you know, if we can get there before

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01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 3: it all falls to bits, you know, that would be

1475
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: the best outcome. So that's what we pushed today. Tokuta

1476
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 3: agreed to next week. And here let's let's keep with

1477
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: you on the other question.

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Speaker 4: Why are you guys, as the EWE chairs Forum, so

1479
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: invested in what's going on with the Maori Party? Would

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01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 4: you do the same thing if there were members of

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 4: the Labor Party who were in the Marii Electricities who

1482
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 4: are having in fighting like this, would you step in

1483
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 4: as well?

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 3: It would depend. I mean we've stepped in because there

1485
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: is an election in twelve months time. We're pretty adamant

1486
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 3: that this government needs to go. I mean we've been

1487
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: challenged like no other generation in the last couple of years.

1488
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, we've got a bigger picture ahead of us.

1489
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: This white stake and having the Maori Party and fighting

1490
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: twelve months out from an election when they should be

1491
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: pumping out policy before Christmas is not good. And so

1492
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: you know it's not just about Mary Party politics. You know,

1493
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: the feeling goes right out to all mighty communities, even

1494
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 3: though they might not be mighty party supporters. So people

1495
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 3: are hurting, People are you know, confused, and you know,

1496
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: we just wants to stop. And that's why the eechas

1497
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: who have stepped in.

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Speaker 4: All right, Baden, thanks very much for your time. Good

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Speaker 4: luck with us. It seems like a hard job. Baden

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Speaker 4: Barber Nazi Kahungongu Chairman six.

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Speaker 2: Twelve Keller duper see Allens.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the details have come out now on exactly

1503
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: what it is that Jevin mcskimming has pleaded guilty to.

1504
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: So I am going to be careful with what I

1505
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: tell you because some of the stuff here is just

1506
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: so hideous. I'm not even going to say it out loud.

1507
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 4: What I can tell you, which I think is okay

1508
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 4: to say, is the first of the search is it

1509
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: looks like it went on for basically four and a

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: half years. The first of the searches took place on

1511
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 4: the first of July twenty twenty, so we're like, you know,

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 4: deep in COVID at the time. The last recorded search

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Speaker 4: was eighteen December twenty twenty four, there were a total

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,919
Speaker 4: of five thousand, three hundred and fifty four Google searches.

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 4: About two thousand of them were adult pornographic. Sixty four

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01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 4: of those were intended to return objectionable images. Three hundred

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01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 4: and eighty eight of them were highly likely to return

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01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: objectionable images. The searchers included AI material, including making references

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: to very small children. I'm not going to talk to

1520
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 4: you about that. Also, nude Nazi girl was something he

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: was quite into. He also looked for things including the

1522
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 4: words slave abuse and extreme. Of the objectionable material that

1523
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: he appears to have got his hands on, thirty seven

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: percent of them were child sexual exploitation and sixty three

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01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 4: percent of them represent bestiality. Fourteen pass six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper.

1527
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: C Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Heart Radio

1528
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: powered by Newstalk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm going to have to talk to you. I've

1530
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 4: got a well, I don't have to, but I'm gonna

1531
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 4: there's a text that's come through on Dave Knowles. I

1532
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: feel like I need to address this because it seems

1533
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 4: to be where everybody's getting really tripped up on this

1534
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 4: thing and not really understanding. This is the confusing bit.

1535
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 4: So I'll get to that shortly. I just want to

1536
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 4: talk to you about this. Over in the US, they

1537
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 4: are cutting ten percent of the flights at forty of

1538
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 4: their major US airports because of the government shutdown. Sounds

1539
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 4: like they just basically don't have enough air traffic controllers.

1540
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 4: Seventeen past six.

1541
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,480
Speaker 2: The Rural Report on Heather do for Sea Allen.

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: Dry Jamie McKay, the country hosts with us. Hello Jamie,

1543
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: what's this business in Shanghai?

1544
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 7: Well, this is the China International Import Expo known as

1545
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 7: the c double Ie in Shanghai.

1546
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 14: Are look a record number.

1547
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 7: Of New Zealand companies, including all the big players like Fonterra,

1548
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 7: Zesprey's Silver Firm, Farms compete to the honey people. They're

1549
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 7: all participating. There's all sorts of places to display your wares.

1550
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 7: More importantly, there's four million eyes to display them to.

1551
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 7: So this thing happens every year from the fifth to

1552
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 7: the tenth of November. It's very much about showcasing your stuff,

1553
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 7: and it's very much about the Chinese government showcasing what

1554
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 7: they can do. This is the brainchild of the current

1555
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 7: President Shei Shingping, so there's no other expo in the world.

1556
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 14: Like for Fonterra for instance.

1557
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 7: Heather and I was chatting to chair Peter McBride this

1558
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 7: afternoon in advance of teeing up an interview for my

1559
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 7: show tomorrow. He's over there representing Fonterra. He's been there

1560
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 7: before with Sesbury. They've got a full milk tanker as

1561
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 7: a part of their display.

1562
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 14: So very very important to be there.

1563
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 7: And all the big players in New Zealand AG are

1564
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 7: there pleasing the Chinese because we've got to take a

1565
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 7: dollar each way.

1566
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 14: You see. You you can't suck up the trump all

1567
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 14: the time.

1568
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 10: No, true?

1569
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 4: That would this be the thing that Ben Bailey from AH.

1570
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 4: He's at the chef the pop up that he's doing

1571
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 4: for AHI.

1572
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 14: Possibly. Possibly.

1573
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 7: I was chatting to Thomas McDonald earlier in the week

1574
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 7: from the Spring Sheep Milk Company. They're the Sheep Milkers

1575
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 7: based out of the way Gatto. There there, there's you know,

1576
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 7: there's dozens, dozens and dozens of New Zealand companies there

1577
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 7: form million people to show off to.

1578
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 4: Now what's the heads up that Shane Jones has giving

1579
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 4: you here on the Gold.

1580
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 14: I was hoping you wouldn't go to that story, Heather.

1581
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 7: I was hoping you would give me an opportunity to

1582
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 7: give the Canterbury amp Show go on there a shameless

1583
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 7: plug because Heather for the first time and I haven't

1584
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 7: read the Shane Jones story. That's the other reason why

1585
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 7: for the first time in ten years it's got Royal

1586
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 7: Amp Show of New Zealand status. So you might remember

1587
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 7: this used to be head and Shoulders, the biggest AMP

1588
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 7: show in the country. If you weren't at the Canterbury

1589
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 7: or the christ Church amp Show, Cup and Show week,

1590
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 7: it's happening next week you were nowhere. But it kind

1591
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 7: of got a bit, had the wobbles and was canceled

1592
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 7: for a couple of years. Sir David Carter, former Minister

1593
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 7: of Agriculture Speaker of the House, is leading the charge.

1594
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 7: They're trying to get back back to the good old

1595
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 7: days on what AMP shows were founded on, bringing the

1596
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 7: country to town and celebrating quality livestock competitions. Look, they've

1597
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 7: got displays of dairy cattle, beef, cattle, sheep, equestrian the

1598
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 7: seven hundred equestrians there. They've got a special wall related

1599
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 7: trade exhibit They've got the normal, the Staples sheep dog Trials,

1600
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 7: Sharing Shetland pony Racing, Clydesdale Display as well as a

1601
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 7: as well as wood chopping and a sharing test between

1602
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 7: the South Island and New South Wales and of course

1603
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 7: Heather the Country.

1604
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 14: That's us. We're there to launch Air twenty twenty five.

1605
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 7: Makaysa Pilsner with the Emerson's Tiny Pub And if you're

1606
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 7: nice to me for the remainder of this month, in fact,

1607
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 7: for the remainder of this calendar year, Heather, I'm going

1608
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 7: to send you and bury.

1609
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 4: Some Christmas I shall. I shall be nice to you.

1610
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 4: And also I'm not pregnant this Christmas, so absolutely I'll

1611
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 4: be taking there. Thanks very much, Jamie, look after yourself,

1612
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 4: Jammie mackay, our host of the Country. Yeah. So what

1613
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 4: Shane Jones is going on about today is pretty excited

1614
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 4: because Matakanui Gold Limited, which is a subsidiary of Santana Minerals,

1615
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 4: has been given of my permit today. This is a

1616
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: thirty year mining permit for the Rise and Shine prospect,

1617
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 4: which is part of the Bend to Go Over gold

1618
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 4: mine project in the Dunstan Mountains, and he reckons we're

1619
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 4: going to get rash off this. One can only hope

1620
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 4: we're going to get rich off this because I don't

1621
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 4: know about you, but I'm ready to get rich. Okay,

1622
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,520
Speaker 4: let's talk about this. Dame Noles text next six twenty one.

1623
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro for just plain economics, it's all

1624
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and to

1625
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: mass for insurance Investments and Kiwye Safer.

1626
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: You're in good hands.

1627
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 4: Talk listen. If you've been following what's going on with

1628
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 4: the dairy auctions, you'll know that they've come back a

1629
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 4: fair But so what it means is basically everybody's saying

1630
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 4: as asking the question is Vonter are going to drop

1631
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: the farm bake Gate milk price to below the ten

1632
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 4: dollar mark? And it seems inevitable. We'll have a chat

1633
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 4: to the dairy analyst Stuart Davison just after half passed, Heather,

1634
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: for goodness sake, did you actually read the article? Dame

1635
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 4: Nolene misled to put it politely, the media when she

1636
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 4: was when she was informed by when it was informed

1637
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 4: by multiple people, including herself at the end of the

1638
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: day that she had been informed of the complaints against her,

1639
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 4: and she had met with Brian Stronach to discuss the

1640
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 4: concerns from the players, and it was nol Lean who

1641
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 4: refused to agree to a change and approach, therefore leading

1642
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: to her suspension. She didn't run rings around netbul New Zealand,

1643
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 4: she ran rings around the media. Now, look, what seems

1644
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 4: to be confusing people is whether she knew why she

1645
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 4: had been stood down or not right, because she says

1646
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 4: she doesn't know why she was stood down, Let me explain,

1647
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 4: and yet she read the Stronach review. Let me explain

1648
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 4: this to you. She's not wrong from what I understand,

1649
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: From what I believe, She's not wrong in saying that

1650
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 4: the Stronach review gives like oversight. It gave her some

1651
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: general ideas of what was wrong. So, for example, if

1652
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 4: somebody came to me and they said, hither, it's not

1653
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 4: a safe place for your producers, they don't feel like

1654
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 4: working with you. They can voice their concerns, that's cool, okay.

1655
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 4: So that's basically what the Stronach report did, to which point, obviously,

1656
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 4: if you were in Dame Knowles's position or mine in

1657
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 4: this particular analogy, I would say, okay, cool. So give

1658
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 4: me some examples what did I do to the German

1659
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 4: that made her feel like this? And they would go, oh, no,

1660
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 4: we can't give you any example, can't tell you any

1661
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 4: specifics because we don't want to identify exactly who that

1662
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 4: is what happened to her. So she was told in

1663
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 4: general terms what had gone on and the fact that

1664
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 4: there wasn't a safe place. It wasn't you know, psychologically

1665
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 4: safe for the players. But then when she said, okay,

1666
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 4: well give me examples of what I did wrong, there

1667
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 4: were no specific examples. And you know that what I'm

1668
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 4: saying is true because Netball New Zealand put out a

1669
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 4: statement for her at the end of Monday saying that saying,

1670
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 4: basically her acknowledging I know that I cannot be told

1671
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 4: any specifics because that would be identifying players, and players

1672
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 4: are anonymous. So that's so there.

1673
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 10: You go.

1674
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 4: Now ask yourself if you were in her position, would

1675
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 4: you want to be stood down out of your job?

1676
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: Would you want to be having agreeing to all of

1677
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 4: these changes and having this gigantic fight And you don't

1678
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 4: know what the examples are, You don't know what like

1679
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 4: you know generally what you're being told you're a bit

1680
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 4: of a shite person. But you're not being told specifically

1681
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 4: what went wrong, so you can't even defend yourself. You

1682
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 4: can't be like, oh, yeah, well that time when Kelly

1683
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: Jackson says that was because do you know what I mean? Like,

1684
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: you might have a very good reason. You know, hopefully

1685
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: we've cleared that up once and for all for everyone.

1686
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: Six twenty six.

1687
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:16,480
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1688
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 4: The Muppets coming back to the big screen. Well, the

1689
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: most important Muppet anyway, Miss Peggy. She's getting her own

1690
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: movie after decades of living in Kermit's shadow, and she's

1691
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 4: assembled an a list producing team to help get her

1692
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 4: story onto the big screen. The movie is being produced

1693
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: by Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone. Yes, that Jennifer Lawrence

1694
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 4: and that Emma Stone.

1695
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can announce this, but I'm

1696
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: just gonna Emma Stone and.

1697
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: I are producing a Miss Peggy movie and.

1698
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 6: Cole is rating it.

1699
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Now, that's Jennifer Lawrence and the Cole she's talking

1700
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 4: to talking about is Cola Scola, who's the most recent

1701
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 4: winner of Best Actor in a Musical at the Tony's

1702
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 4: this year. He wrote a play called Oh Mary, which

1703
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 4: is a satirical take on the life of Mary Todd Lincoln,

1704
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 4: who is the wife of obviously Abraham Lincoln, and he,

1705
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 4: obviously why not he played Mary. The question is still

1706
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 4: whether or not Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence will actually

1707
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: be in the movie themselves, and also what it's going

1708
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: to be about. Piggy and Kermit have been separated since

1709
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, but they haven't officially announced a divorce, so

1710
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 4: the question is a potential rekindling on the cards.

1711
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 14: I hope not.

1712
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:25,480
Speaker 23: She's horrible to them.

1713
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 4: Okay, Kermit has well rid of us. So I was

1714
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 4: just about to point something out and answers just totally

1715
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: reinforced my position on this. Why do adult people, why

1716
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 4: do adult human beings cared this deeply about a puppet's

1717
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 4: love life? Do you answer that question?

1718
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 23: Ans Oh, The Muppets has just always been a very

1719
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 23: well made show.

1720
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 4: Your husband is coming, Okay, because it's a bit weird,

1721
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 4: isn't it. I'm just saying, I mean it's nice.

1722
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 23: We have a hang up about anything that's animated or

1723
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 23: has animatronics during anything.

1724
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: I think it's because I'm a grown up.

1725
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Speaker 14: I think it's just a personal heavything.

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Speaker 4: Maybe could be and being judgmental and being Smartganti uses.

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01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: Next everything from SMS to the big corporates, the Business

1728
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicllen and Mass for insurance investments and

1729
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: Kiwye Safer.

1730
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 2: You're in good hands news talks that'd be.

1731
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 4: I have you been ready with us in ten minutes

1732
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 4: time out of the UK right now it's twenty four

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01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 4: away from seven. Now let's deal with what is going

1734
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 4: on with milk. Fonterra's farm gate milk price is being

1735
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 4: tipped to fall below the ten dollar mark after yesterday's

1736
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 4: Global Dairy Trade auction the price of whole milk powder.

1737
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 4: If you've been following this you will have noticed it's

1738
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 4: full and twenty percent since May and Fonterra's current range

1739
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 4: for the farm Greatee milk price is nine dollars to

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01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 4: eleven dollars per kg of milk solid. Stuart Davison is

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01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 4: a dairy analyst for Higher Ground. Hey Stewart, I'm very well,

1742
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 4: thank you. Do you reckon it's inevitable that it's going

1743
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 4: to drop.

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 19: Yes, I don't think it's an edville. We've definitely seen

1745
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 19: the market fall in the last little while, and big

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 19: drivers milk supply, So we've seen a lot of milk

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 19: being produced everywhere. All the export nations are well ahead

1748
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 19: on milk production through Q three and then are likely

1749
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 19: follow into Q four and into early twenty six.

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Speaker 2: So supply is the story.

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01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, supply, It didn't like, not enough demand for that supply.

1752
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 19: Well, demand's actually reasonably firm. We've seen a few tumbles

1753
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 19: and trips here and there in the market, but demands

1754
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 19: not that far lower than normal. But milk production is

1755
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 19: just outstripping that.

1756
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 10: Growth of demand.

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01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 4: Why what's going on?

1758
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 19: Well, two things. Milk pricing, as we see in New Zealand,

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 19: is leading farmers globally to produce more. You know, we

1760
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 19: were in a very tight situation supply supply reasons in

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 19: the last eighteen months. The market was screaming for more

1762
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 19: milk and milk solds, especially milk fat in the last

1763
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 19: eighteen months, and the market's got that supply to catch

1764
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 19: up now and now we're in that transition period between

1765
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 19: under supply moving to oversupply. So you know, milk prices

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,520
Speaker 19: are just driving production everywhere.

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Speaker 4: If it does fall below the ten dollar mark, As

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 4: you say, what does it fall two.

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, how quickly it gets down and where it

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01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 19: goes to is up for discussion. At the moment, I think,

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 19: you know, if we look at the milk price futures

1772
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 19: market at the moment, yeah, we're trading about nine dollars

1773
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 19: seventy three there at the minute. We could very quickly

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 19: go lower if we see the GDT auction in two

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01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 19: weeks time ago, even you know, expecially hor power prices

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01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 19: move even lower. You know, my sort of early forecast

1777
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 19: in the year was sort of nine dollars twenty but

1778
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 19: I've sort of regauged things. At the moment, we're probably

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01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 19: close to nine forty nine fifty all things considered. But

1780
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 19: you know, we just have to look back to the

1781
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 19: twenty two twenty three season when prices fell seventy cents

1782
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 19: from the peak.

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01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 10: To the trough during the season. So yeah, in the

1784
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 10: same time frame, we've got left run in this.

1785
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 19: Season, so you know, there's there's some serious movement potential

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01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 19: left to run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know this obviously sounds bad, but actually if

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01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 4: you put it in kind of historical context, it's still

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Speaker 4: a pretty good payout, isn't it.

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Speaker 19: Well, And that's that's the big driver of the expectation

1792
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 19: of more milk supply as well. So yes, you know,

1793
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 19: even if we get down to nine dollar handle, and

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01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 19: the listening will not like me saying that, but you know,

1795
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 19: they're still making a lot of money generally in New

1796
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 19: Zealand at that point. And you know, feed prices, interest rates, fuel,

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01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 19: all those input costs have actually eased lower in the

1798
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 19: last twelve months as well, so margin wise, things are

1799
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 19: still looking pretty good. And you know, if you look

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Speaker 19: at price as a signal for supply, the question is

1801
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 19: actually how low does the milk price need to get

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01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 19: to sort of condense milk production a little bit globally

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01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 19: as well. So that's the question now is how low

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01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 19: will milk prices go? How quickly will farmers respond to

1805
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 19: the signals? And usually, you know, the general rule of

1806
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 19: thumbers and agriculture, you know, the supply response is relatively

1807
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 19: slow on both sides, so we don't expect a quick

1808
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 19: response from anyone, and milk prices are going to get

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01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 19: a lot lower before we see the response anywhere.

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01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: Stud I haven't spoken to you since the sale of

1811
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 4: fon Terra's consumer brands to luck to Lease and Winston.

1812
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 4: Obviously getting pretty vexed about it and saying they're going

1813
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 4: to regress it. Do you think they're going to regress it.

1814
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 10: I don't think they go rigord it at all.

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Speaker 19: I think, you know, we're two sides of that. I

1816
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 19: think the farmer's side, you know, they're going to do

1817
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 19: well without two dollars and their and their budgets and

1818
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 19: and they've got a lot of ways they can spend

1819
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 19: that on their own businesses and they'll quite enjoy that

1820
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 19: capital sort of breather room. On the Fonterira side as well,

1821
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 19: I think, you know, the strategies have been talked about

1822
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 19: pretty clearly, and you know, I think what they're politicing

1823
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 19: in New Zealand seems to miss very bluntly. They're very

1824
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 19: focused on the fact that Fonteria is going to be

1825
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 19: an ingredients business, and I think that's you know, the

1826
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 19: assumption is that means the company is then only.

1827
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 10: In commodities commodities based.

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Speaker 19: I think we missed that the world of dairy is

1829
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 19: very quickly going towards higher fractionalization of dairy, so you know,

1830
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 19: getting right down to the nitty gritty parts of the

1831
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 19: milk solid and pulling all the value out of it.

1832
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 19: That's that's what the market wants, you know, still buying

1833
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 19: homic powder and skim and and all those other big

1834
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 19: name commodities, but you know, the market screens for high

1835
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 19: proteins and more way protein isolates and milk protein concentrates

1836
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 19: and all these things that go into the high end

1837
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 19: of products and are used for very specific use cases.

1838
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 19: And that's you know, that's where Fonteria is telling us

1839
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 19: they want to go. And this frees them up to

1840
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,879
Speaker 19: make that strategy approach. And they've already started an investment

1841
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 19: channel too. You know, we look at Startholme protein investment

1842
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 19: that's going on, and then all the expectations of what

1843
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 19: else they're going to do. And I've talked about with

1844
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 19: their protein plans too. So I think it's I think

1845
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 19: it's a good move. It's just you know, the other

1846
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 19: question we probably have to start asking ourselves is, and

1847
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 19: the key dairy industry is how much money are we

1848
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 19: willing to invest in the co op to make sure

1849
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 19: we can chase those higher value fractionalizational plants down too.

1850
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 4: Stuart, as always, it's really wonderful to talk to you.

1851
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Thank you. Stuart Davison, higher Ground Dairy Analyst nineteen away

1852
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: from seven.

1853
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy, Ellen, you will not.

1854
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 4: Believe I'm coppying it for the miss Piggy stuff. We'd

1855
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 4: get to that and we're going to have to have

1856
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: another Muppets chat apparently. Can I just draw your attention

1857
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: to what a New Zealand is up to today? So

1858
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 4: in New Zealand, we've talked about this on the show.

1859
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 4: They've got that little electric plane that they're fixated with

1860
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 4: and it's starting its intensive trial run today. So it's

1861
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 4: already done. It's done like a test flow or something

1862
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 4: like that in totung Our last month. But now they're

1863
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 4: going to start the extens of proving trials, going to

1864
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 4: do it in Hamilton, going to do a range of

1865
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 4: They're going to get it up there flying a range

1866
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 4: of conditions, bunch of flight maneuvers and roots, you know,

1867
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 4: just trying to kind of understand how the plane works

1868
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 4: and probably satisfy themselves it can stay in the air,

1869
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 4: you know, that kind of thing. They have to once

1870
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 4: they've done, once they've done all of the trials and

1871
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 4: stuff in Hamilton, then they have to get it down

1872
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: to Wellington because they've got to fly the cook straight

1873
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 4: the summer, so because that's ultimately it can't fly very

1874
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: far and so this is what it's ultimately going to

1875
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 4: be limited to flying you know, Wellington, I don't know, Blenham, Wellington, Picton,

1876
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 4: something like that. But in order to get it down

1877
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 4: there from Welling Hamilton to Wellington they have to go,

1878
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: by the looks of things, Hamilton to Topel, then Topal

1879
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 4: to Napier, then Napier to Palmiston North and then Palmston

1880
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: North to Wellington, which is, you know, which is not

1881
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 4: unusual for us, because that's what we've had to do

1882
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 4: with the defense plane for the longest time. For the

1883
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 4: Prime Minister. You want to get from here to I

1884
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 4: don't know, Turkey, You're going New Zealand, Darwin, Malaysia, dough

1885
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 4: Ha you liked across the anyway. What I find interesting

1886
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 4: about this, and I don't think I'm ever going to

1887
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 4: stop finding this fascinating, is this is a New Zealand.

1888
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 4: Did you know this? This is a New Zealand who

1889
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 4: the CEO has gone around first week in the job

1890
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 4: and he's like God is bigging bowled out and he's

1891
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 4: asking for government money for subsidies. So they don't shut

1892
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: down regional routes because that's how tight things are. They

1893
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 4: need money, money, money, money, But then they fly the

1894
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 4: electric then they waste time with this electric plane which

1895
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 4: costs money. Not all anyway priorities people seventeen away from seven.

1896
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1897
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: The business hour were they head to do for Cellen

1898
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: and mas for insurance investments and Huey safer and you're

1899
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: in good hands news talks.

1900
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 4: That'd be either if the recent electric bus fires or

1901
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 4: anything to go by, I won't be flying on an

1902
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 4: electric plane gin. Actually, as long as the look as

1903
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 4: long as the plane doesn't hit the bus overpass, and

1904
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 4: you should be okay. The only problem is if it

1905
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 4: crashes on Tamaki Drive, it's going to take a really

1906
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 4: long time to clear that plane. Because that's the experience

1907
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: with the electric bus, wasn't it fourteen away from seven

1908
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,520
Speaker 4: in the Brady UK correspondence with that's hello Winda.

1909
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 10: Heather, great to be back.

1910
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: How are you so?

1911
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 4: Tell me about the latest six offender to be accidentally

1912
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 4: released from jail.

1913
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 10: Well, it feels the groundhog day here. We did this

1914
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 10: story just a couple of weeks ago when they let

1915
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 10: out a guy who was sexually assaulted a fourteen year

1916
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 10: old girl. Led him out of prison early by accident,

1917
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 10: and he even went back in and asked, are you

1918
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 10: sure I should be out? And they pointed him in

1919
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 10: the direction of a train station and said basically go,

1920
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 10: and he did. We have another man hunt underway. I

1921
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 10: think this one is even more damaging for the authorities

1922
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 10: because we now find out he was released by accident,

1923
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 10: a twenty four year old Algerian last Wednesday, and we

1924
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 10: were told about it yesterday, and in fact the police

1925
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 10: were told about it yesterday and you can imagine the

1926
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 10: anger in policing having to now find this and he's

1927
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 10: had a full week of a head start. So it's

1928
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 10: shining a light really on the absolute state of the

1929
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 10: prison system in the UK. The government are saying that, look,

1930
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 10: we just inherited this mess from the previous lot. It's

1931
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 10: the Conservative's fault. But in all honesty, they've had over

1932
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 10: a year now to try and make things better and

1933
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 10: it's clear that the prison system is on its knees. Meanwhile,

1934
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 10: we don't know where a convicted sex offender is. He's

1935
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 10: twenty four, he's from Algeria. He is due to be

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Speaker 10: deported when he finishes this sentence, so he's not exactly

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Speaker 10: going to walk in and hand himself in.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So do you have any grip at the moment

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Speaker 4: on how many of these people who shouldn't have been

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Speaker 4: released have been released? Like how many are out there?

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Speaker 10: No, we don't, and that is the question that was

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Speaker 10: asked in Parliament yesterday during Prime Minister's Questions. Starmer's gone

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Speaker 10: off the cop thirty in Brazil. So David Lammy was

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Speaker 10: filling in. He's basically Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Minister

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Speaker 10: there and here we have it where he was not

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Speaker 10: able to answer that question. Now Lammy refused to answer

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Speaker 10: the question because he knew this was coming, and it

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Speaker 10: was only after PMQ's was over that this story broke,

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Speaker 10: and it was quite clear that the Conservatives knew that

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Speaker 10: something was in the offing, as they say, and it's

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Speaker 10: everywhere now, so yeah, it's nobody knows and you just

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Speaker 10: wonder what is going on. Releasing someone from prison is

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Speaker 10: a very significant decision to take, and we've managed to

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Speaker 10: let two foreign sex offenders go in the space of

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Speaker 10: a fortnite.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, talk to me about the politics of this right,

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Speaker 4: because this has been fairly gritty for Stamma and his

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Speaker 4: party basically from the start. Are they playing this like

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Speaker 4: is there one in one out policy going to cut

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Speaker 4: the mustard after all of this or are they going

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Speaker 4: to be expected to go harder?

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Speaker 10: Look, I think they're really really going to have to

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Speaker 10: go harder on migration because guess who's making hay politically

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Speaker 10: on this, Nigel Farage. It is his selling point. It

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Speaker 10: is probably the only thing that is driving his popularity

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Speaker 10: in the polls. That and Starmer's unpopularity is the fact

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Speaker 10: that Forage says, make me Prime Minister and all these

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Speaker 10: people will be going home and more. You know, that's

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Speaker 10: the drum he keeps banging. And you look around England

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Speaker 10: now and you're seeing more and more flags a cross

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Speaker 10: of Saint George everywhere. People have had enough and Forage

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Speaker 10: and reform. If there were an election in the morning,

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Speaker 10: they are running away with it in the polls.

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Speaker 4: What would going harden look like?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think for Starmer it needs is oken that

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Speaker 10: this can't go on, and that fifty thousand people coming

1977
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Speaker 10: across in Dinghy's from France every single year, mostly men, undocumented.

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Speaker 10: We don't know who they are, where they're from. Tackling

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Speaker 10: that and stopping that anyhow, people don't care. People don't

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Speaker 10: you know. We're seeing this small army of British lawyers,

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Speaker 10: human rights lawyers exploiting every single loophole possible to keep

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Speaker 10: these people in the country for as long as possible.

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Speaker 10: And Stamer used to be a human rights lawyer, so

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Speaker 10: surely he knows how this can be stopped. There are solutions.

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Speaker 10: I absolutely think there are solutions, but Stammer doesn't want

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Speaker 10: to go that far because he doesn't want to be

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Speaker 10: seen as extreme. If he doesn't, he will be out

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Speaker 10: of a job.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more. Hey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Into that's fascinating stuff. That's into Brady UK correspondent hither

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Speaker 4: fascinating view on in New Zealand. Wouldn't you invest a

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Speaker 4: percentage in your future of travel to stay relevant off

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Speaker 4: Mark comments, No, I would not not if I was

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand. I don't think investing in a tiny

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Speaker 4: little plane that can fly all of about two hundred

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Speaker 4: ks is investing in your future. And if you like,

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Speaker 4: seriously come off it. If was if this was a

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Speaker 4: viable piece of technology. It would be the big airlines

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Speaker 4: around the world that would be investing in it, if

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Speaker 4: any actually thinks that anything that it does at the

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Speaker 4: urs end of the world, with the tiny little amount

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Speaker 4: of money that they've got is going to make a

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Speaker 4: difference to aviation. They are dreaming, isn't it. What planet

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Speaker 4: are you living on? It's not. It's not in New

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Speaker 4: Zealand's place to save aviation. Oh my gosh, hey remember

2006
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Speaker 4: the Louver business. It gets worse. Turns out the Louver's

2007
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Speaker 4: video security password was reportedly love Yep. Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather too for see allan Drive full show

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Speaker 4: Six away from seven. I've got you know what, I'm

2011
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Speaker 4: fascinated by this Pope. I don't know why. Maybe it's

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Speaker 4: just I'm fascinated by the Pope. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: the Comcom's given the okay to the cold deal between

2014
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Speaker 4: all the big power generators. Thank the Good Lord for that.

2015
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Speaker 4: So you can have power next winter. Maybe maybe not. Also,

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Speaker 4: so the Pope has come out and said Catholics just

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Speaker 4: need to settle down about Mary. She was not a

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Speaker 4: co redeemer. I don't know if you're aware of this,

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Speaker 4: but this has been a thing in Catholicism for a

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Speaker 4: bit where they've been sort of like, is Mary the

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Speaker 4: same as Jesus? Is literally the only it's the only

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Speaker 4: form of Christianity where they do this. But they were like,

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Speaker 4: it's Mary the same as Jesus, And mainly popes are

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Speaker 4: of the view.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: Francis was of the view. No, Benedict was of the view.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 4: But John Paul the second who came before, was of

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Speaker 4: the view kind of yes, well actually definitely yes, But

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Speaker 4: then he stopped saying it because he realized it wasn't

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Speaker 4: the thing when he was, you know, actually in the papacy,

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Speaker 4: Pope Leo has instructed Catholics not to refer to Mary

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Speaker 4: as having helped her son. Jesus saved the world from damnation,

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Speaker 4: Jesus alone saved humanity, and Catholics must not call Mary

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Speaker 4: the co redeemer. So for now that's off, But let

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Speaker 4: me tell you it'll be back, can we say, very

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Speaker 4: quickly while I've got a chance. Congratulations to our mate

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Speaker 4: Jack Tame, who has just been announced as the weekend

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Speaker 4: reader for One News. So gorgeous Gods her so Simon's out,

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Speaker 4: so what's a face? Meliss is going to be Melissa's

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Speaker 4: the weekend one at the moment, She's going to be

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Speaker 4: moving into the weekday slot, and then her seat is vacant,

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Speaker 4: so Jack's taking. And that's actually a really good job

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Speaker 4: for Jack Jack actually, because Jack is a good looking

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Speaker 4: man made like good looking. He's got the thing, he's

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Speaker 4: got the hair, he's got the whole look, so he

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Speaker 4: will be fantastic at it. And he can read yours

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Speaker 4: and he can read words on an auto Q, which

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Speaker 4: I think is an important part of this with a

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Speaker 4: nice voice. Now, Heather, Gonzo and Beaker are the most

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Speaker 4: impotent muppets. I feel like mus may have meant to

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Speaker 4: say important, but he didn't. He said impotent. So that

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Speaker 4: is how it has been read out, Like Ron Burgundy,

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Speaker 4: Heather from ed Tim Kermit All the way water is

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Speaker 4: up ends with grown ass humans behaving like this.

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Speaker 23: Well, I was going to say I just to firm

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Speaker 23: this up. I had a chat with a couple of

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Speaker 23: other members of staff as well. And the Muppet Show,

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Speaker 23: when at first launched, was not a kids show like

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Speaker 23: Jim Henson did Sesame Street first and he was worried

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01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 23: that he was getting typecast as a children's entertainer. So

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Speaker 23: while The Muppets is a kid friendly show, a kid

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01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 23: can watch it. It ran in like the evenings and it

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01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 23: was just a variety show where they had comedy bits

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Speaker 23: and Theydy talking about the seventies.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean this is the time wind Tell it was,

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Speaker 4: but wild were stay like you could do a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff.

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Speaker 23: Well, there are tons of variety shows, right, so you

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Speaker 23: need what's your point of difference? You're like, we have

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Speaker 23: puppet characters in it. Yeah, but I don't think the

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Speaker 23: inclusion of puppets inherently means that it is a kids show.

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Speaker 4: But can I say to you, like if you went

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Speaker 4: on a date with someone and then they were like,

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Speaker 4: I love the Muppets, let's sing the Muppet song?

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Speaker 23: Depend how early in the days and what the context

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01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 23: of the was, Like, Hey, my name's ants and they're like,

2078
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:34,839
Speaker 23: let's sing the Muppets.

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01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 4: I probably I think your full noise in the hotel

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Speaker 4: room in a state of andreas like, that's how far

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01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 4: into the date you are, and that that bust you're

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01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 4: out of there.

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Speaker 23: That's Look, there's just one thing we have to get

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Speaker 23: out of the way. Yeah, you're right, but it's it's

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Speaker 23: context is very anyway on from the Muppets to K

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Speaker 23: Pop Demon Hunters. Free from K Pop Demon Hunters to

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Speaker 23: play us out tonight. Hither because the popular animated Netflix

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Speaker 23: show is going to get any sequel, It's been confirmed

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01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 23: that it's going to be released sometimes too. The original

2090
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Speaker 23: two directors are.

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Speaker 10: Going to be working on it.

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Speaker 23: You'll be looking forward to that one.

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Speaker 4: Well because that song a that golden song.

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01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 23: I was so tempted. But yeah, obviously that there was

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Speaker 23: a listener band on that one.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for thank thank you for respecting that

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Speaker 4: and much of Gracia. Okay, see you tomorrow. Fine, now.

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Speaker 2: Something bro?

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Speaker 4: Will you give me home? We can't, they said.

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Speaker 14: If we love a facing, let the past be the

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Speaker 14: pastor's favos.

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