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Speaker 1: Now, I've got a huge amount of respect for the police,

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Speaker 1: and I very much, almost weekly appreciate what it is

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Speaker 1: that they do for us. But I think we have

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Speaker 1: to call it. Tom Phillips is embarrassing them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he is still out there with his

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Speaker 1: kids coming up four years now is embarrassing for the

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Speaker 1: police because it looks like they're having rings run around

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Speaker 1: the by a skinny eye from mutter Copper. He makes

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Speaker 1: a mockery of them every single time he pops up

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Speaker 1: to nick milk from a dairy or shop in full

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Speaker 1: view of the public in Bunnings, or do a job

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Speaker 1: on a bank, every time someone in the family pleads

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Speaker 1: for him to come home, every time an international media

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Speaker 1: outlet writes another fascinated piece about him being out there

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Speaker 1: every winter, when our own media remember that the family

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Speaker 1: are still out there and draw attention to it again.

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Speaker 1: Every time that happens, we are reminded that our police

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Speaker 1: cannot find a guy and his kids in the bush

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Speaker 1: around mutter Copper. Now, I don't know what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: I have a suspicion, I've shared it with you before,

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Speaker 1: that the police are deliberately just leaving him to it

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Speaker 1: because if they wanted to, they could get him out.

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Speaker 1: And you know that we're a country of people who

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Speaker 1: understand the bus the only guy in New Zealand with

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Speaker 1: bush skills. The cops have got specialist teams, and if

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Speaker 1: they don't want to use those teams because they don't

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Speaker 1: want to have a shootout, well then we've got the

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Speaker 1: defense force. The defense force can be used here. They've

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Speaker 1: actually been used in the search beforehand. And you cannot

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Speaker 1: tell me that our essays can handle the tullybut but

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Speaker 1: can't track down a guy in the bush and be

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Speaker 1: on him before he knows that they're there. You cannot

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Speaker 1: tell me they can't do that. I suspect the police

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Speaker 1: have made the decision to not find him, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I actually think may be the right decision,

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Speaker 1: given how messy I think the family court business could

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Speaker 1: in fact be in this case. But they are not

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Speaker 1: trying to find him, and I just wonder if maybe

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Speaker 1: they should say that out loud. Maybe they should just

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Speaker 1: be upfront that he is out there until the day

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Speaker 1: that Tom Phillips decides to come back, just so that

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Speaker 1: every single passing winter doesn't make the police look like

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Speaker 1: they're being Beaten by Tom Phillips. For more from Heather

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