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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning, New Zealand. It is

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Speaker 2: six half to five. I'm Ryan Bridge. This his early

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Speaker 2: edition on Newstalk. Sa'd be great to have your company

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Speaker 2: this Tuesday morning. Lots to get through today. We're looking

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Speaker 2: at Shane Ritti. He's gone full Trump on Health New

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Speaker 2: five point thirty this morning. Kamala Harris is I reckon

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Speaker 2: So can she beat Trump? That's the question. The Washington

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty third of July. US Vice

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Speaker 2: President Karmala Harris has spoken publicly for the first time

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Speaker 2: since President Joe Biden announced he will not seek reelection.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's legacy of accomplishment over the past three years

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Speaker 2: Well, big call there, anyway. She didn't say much else

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Speaker 2: The National convention being held next month in Chicago. US

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Speaker 2: Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has testified in front of

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Speaker 2: The Service has been widely criticized for not having snipers

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Speaker 2: the former president from.

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Speaker 4: The assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on July

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Speaker 2: You can say that again. She was confronted by Republicans

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Speaker 2: for not securing the rooftop. Back here. This is some amazing,

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Speaker 2: fantastic news out of New Zealand. Groundbreaking cancer therapy has

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Speaker 2: reached a new milestone. The trial of car T cell therapy,

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Speaker 2: types of blood cancer. The clinical director says the aversion

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Speaker 2: Nine after five.

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Speaker 1: Radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture, Beds and a playing store.

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Speaker 2: News talk said, be so Shane Ready's got rid of

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Speaker 2: we are looking at Health New Zealand. Will this commissioner

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Speaker 2: This is the line. They're going to be running. Fifty

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Speaker 2: being replaced by a new commissioner, Professor Lester Levy, who

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Speaker 2: deterioration in the financial outlook. In other words, financially, it's

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Debra. Good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: First of all, your reaction to what the minister announced yesterday.

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Speaker 2: news about our fleet. This is Kiwi Rail, the fleet

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be Just gone twenty after five on

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Speaker 2: Cal Finlay Is the Maritime Union from the Maritime Union

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Speaker 2: Cal Finlay is the Maritime Union of New Zealand National Secretary.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty three after five. Interestingly, in this report

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Speaker 1: Goode separating the fact from the fiction. Kad's filling edition

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Speaker 2: And NZTA looked at eight hundred maintenance work science this

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Speaker 2: Because it looks like Karmala Harris has got this sewn

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Speaker 1: Sibb the first word on the News of the Day

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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a playing Store. News Talk Sibby.

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Speaker 2: Have a double shadowed wish there's a party down. Tell

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Speaker 2: everybody at budet good morning. It is twenty four away

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Speaker 2: from six year on news Talk, said b I'm Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Lots of your feedback coming.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to in a second, but first in some

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Speaker 2: developing news for you this morning, Nancy Pelosi has just

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Speaker 2: issued a statement endorsing Vice President Krmla Harris to run

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think she's eighty four. She's ancient, but

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Speaker 2: optimism for our country's future that I endorse Vice President

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Speaker 2: Karmala Harris for President of the United States. She says,

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Speaker 2: you know how Karmala has been instrumental in the fight

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Speaker 2: and charge Ford to resoundingly defeat Donald Trump and enthusiastically

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosiho has endorsed Carmla Harris. Lots of you aren't

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Speaker 2: The Democratic Party is about to face its biggest loss

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Speaker 2: from Brian nineteen ninety two, the number to text twenty

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Speaker 2: two minutes away from six Brian b Locklin winings with

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Speaker 2: us this morning with news from Duned and actually Wonica

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Speaker 2: the successful of Warbirds over Wonka. Yeah so that yes.

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Speaker 9: Show roared back to life this season, generating more than

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Speaker 9: according to its economic Assessment report, ninety eight percent of

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Speaker 9: the visitors were satisfied with the event, and board chair

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Speaker 9: Paul Moody says they're already planning for a better show

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. I actually looked at that and thought, why haven't

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Speaker 9: Definitely recommend it to also. Weather today so it's eight

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thanks Lachlin Blake. Benny is in christ Church for

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Speaker 2: US this morning that reports on the Orana Wildlife Park

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Speaker 2: the conditions they are expected back by tomorrow? Are they? Indeed?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 11: As we know, more than twenty current and former staff

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Speaker 11: MPI staff were on site yesterday to undertake a rapid

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Speaker 2: All Right, Blake. The weather today for christ Judge.

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Speaker 11: A cloudy day with some fresh south Westerly ones which

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Speaker 2: H I have eleven brilliant thank you and Max toll

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Speaker 6: Max, Yeah, this is a story our newsroom broke late

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Speaker 2: All right weather today, max sure.

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Speaker 6: Party, cloudy, strong, southerly's a high of eleventh central, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and Neva is an Auckland this morning? Good morning, No,

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Speaker 10: I'm good?

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Speaker 2: What are you looking for?

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Speaker 10: You're faffing about?

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Speaker 2: I know you've lost your paper? I've lost I've lost

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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, go off, you go, you go get

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Speaker 10: this Amitus Sparky's work which nearly set Auckland's homerlights. So

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Speaker 10: make sure you're doing that, and a reminder of the

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Speaker 10: dangers of allowing unskilled and untrained people to do electrical work.

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Speaker 10: Because Rapeesh Kumar, now he was fined, because he was

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Speaker 10: convicted of this negligent work on electrical installation. Now this

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Speaker 10: was he was supposed to install. He was hired to

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Speaker 10: install and connect to hot water cylinder. Then several months later,

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Speaker 10: apparently the homeowner noticed a burning smell and called the

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Speaker 10: fire brigade. So you know, some of this happens. So

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Speaker 10: you've just got to make.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's tempting though, isn't it, because it's so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Well exactly, so you go, well, I could just put

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Speaker 2: that wire in there myself.

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Speaker 10: Oh I say that all the time. I'm not even qualified.

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Speaker 2: For goodness sake, before you know it, your you know

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Speaker 2: your house has burned to the ground. Correct, So don't

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Speaker 2: use that at home. People don't take that advice to have.

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Speaker 2: Auckland's weather today never.

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Speaker 10: Occasional showers clearing this afternoon, our high fifteen brilliantly, did

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Speaker 10: you find you a piece of paper?

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Speaker 2: I've found one? People, could I eighteen minutes away from

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Speaker 2: six o'clock, donnor to our Australia correspondent is with us

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Speaker 2: next plus before the top of the hour. Henry Olsen,

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Speaker 2: who's a US election analyst but also a columnist for

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Speaker 2: The Washington Post. His take on whether Karmla Harris can

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Speaker 2: eat Trump. Sure, she has the endorsement of many now,

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Speaker 2: including Nancy Pelosi for the Democratic nomination, but taking the

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Speaker 2: fight to Trump will be a completely different challenge. So

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Speaker 2: can she do it? Is she up to it? That?

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Speaker 2: Just before six, just go on quarter to six here

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Speaker 2: on news Talk said be very quickly this service station

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Speaker 2: Robert underdou Ruben. You can read the story in the

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Speaker 2: Herald this morning. He's got a sixty five percent discount

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Speaker 2: at sentencing after he was taken part was involved with

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Speaker 2: an armed robbery of a service station. I mean, sixty

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Speaker 2: five percent off is about as good as a Brisco

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Speaker 2: sale if you ask me. So what is it actually for?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five percent was for his early guilty plead, twenty

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Speaker 2: percent was because he's young, and twenty percent was because

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Speaker 2: of a Section twenty seven report which detailed his upbringing.

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Speaker 2: The sentence could have been jail time years of jail time. Instead,

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Speaker 2: he's got no reparation payments because he doesn't have a job,

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Speaker 2: and he's walked away with four months home detention to

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Speaker 2: serve in a residential facility. So go figure. It's just

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Speaker 2: gone on quarter to six.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business John had.

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Speaker 2: Managed in Australia for US. This morning Cameber police approbing

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Speaker 2: two separate targeted attacks. What's this about.

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Speaker 12: Yes, they're investigating after two men were allegedly lured to

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Speaker 12: locations via dating apps and then assaulted. Now, both victims

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Speaker 12: were reportedly tricked into meeting up after communicating with fake

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Speaker 12: user profiles. Obviously they didn't know at the time they

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Speaker 12: were fake on a dating app. Then they were beaten

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Speaker 12: by a group of men. Now we know that the

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Speaker 12: investigations are looking into whether the incidents are linked since

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Speaker 12: they were almost identical. One of the victims attacked by

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Speaker 12: four men outside of Canberra home and then he was robbed.

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Speaker 12: He did end up in hospital. The second victim attacked

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Speaker 12: when after matching on an app, he was lured to

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Speaker 12: an abandoned home and assaulted by a group of seven

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Speaker 12: or eight men. And at that time there were some

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Speaker 12: homophobic slurs used in during that attack, so it does

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Speaker 12: seem targeted and premeditated. Now police have also urged people

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Speaker 12: if they're meeting up with anyone that they've met on

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Speaker 12: an app, they must and should really consider meeting in

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Speaker 12: a public place.

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Speaker 2: At the very least, we've had a similar thing here

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Speaker 2: in christ Church, a similar case or a couple of cases

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Speaker 2: just like that. Donna. Let's talk about the forecast costs

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Speaker 2: of that tic breakdown we had the front, yes.

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Speaker 12: That crowdstrikeer outage that we're all still reeling from. Well,

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Speaker 12: it's the cost of it is still being fully assessed

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Speaker 12: here in Australia. It's tipped to leave a damage bill

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Speaker 12: of almost a billion by some, but then others are

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Speaker 12: saying that it could reach or run into the billions.

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Speaker 12: We've heard from government leaders, business leaders and they say

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Speaker 12: the impact of the outage could be felt for weeks

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Speaker 12: to come. Now we know what will cause the the outage,

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Speaker 12: but you know, absolute chaos for millions of Aussies. And

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Speaker 12: the Home Affairs Minister Claire O'Neil has spoken and said well,

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Speaker 12: some of these issues, these fallout issues could actually still

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Speaker 12: be a problem for businesses for at least another two

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Speaker 12: weeks possibly, And we also heard from the Austrain Industry

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Speaker 12: Group who says those glitches well could cost us billions,

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Speaker 12: multiple billions of dollars and at this stage is still

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Speaker 12: unclear if businesses will be seeking compensation. But we have

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Speaker 12: heard the CrowdStrike. As you may have already heard as well.

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Speaker 12: He is said to be preparing for an absolute onslaught

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Speaker 12: of possible legal action after what happened on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Dona, thank you very much for your time. Donnad tomayow

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Speaker 2: with us from Australia this morning. It is twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 1: Six Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: The fairy godmother you could call her of the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi has this morning thrown her support behind Karmala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is no longer seeking reelection to be president

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Speaker 2: of the United States. He's endorsed, along with Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 2: in a whole raft of others. Now, Karmala Harris to

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Speaker 2: be the nominee for the Democrats for president in the

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Speaker 2: election in November. She says, Kamala Harris, that is, she

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Speaker 2: wants to earn and win the nomination. So what is

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Speaker 2: the process and is it who's basically in the bag? Well,

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Speaker 2: Henry Olsen is with us this morning. He's a US

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Speaker 2: election analyst and columnist for the Washington Post. Henry, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for being with us. Is this basically

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Speaker 2: thank you for having me? Is this basically all sewn

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Speaker 2: up for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 8: Now it probably is, and it'll be formally open that

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Speaker 8: none of the delegates to the National Convention who make

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Speaker 8: the selection are legally bound to vote for her. But

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Speaker 8: you can't beat someone with no one and right now,

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Speaker 8: every single leading national figure who credibly could challenge her

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Speaker 8: has endorsed her, So it's difficult to see where somebody

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Speaker 8: gains traction in order to defeat her, even though the

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Speaker 8: process will be formally open to anyone who wants to

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Speaker 8: do them.

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Speaker 2: It would be political suicide for any serious contender to

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Speaker 2: throw the hat in the ring, given how many have

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Speaker 2: come out support and support of her.

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Speaker 8: Now that's why they're all doing And I'm sure many

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Speaker 8: of them privately think that she's not a strong candidate,

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Speaker 8: many of them privately hunger for the job, but they

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Speaker 8: all know that if you're going to kill the king,

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Speaker 8: you have to kill the king. And it's extremely hard

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Speaker 8: to take out a sitting vice president with the sitting

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Speaker 8: president's endorsement, who's also got hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 8: behind her that wouldn't necessarily be transferable to someone who

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Speaker 8: beat her. Everyone seems to be choosing discretion as the

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Speaker 8: better part of value in this case.

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Speaker 2: Who does she need on the ticket with her? Do

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Speaker 2: you pick a swing state senator or a governor like

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Speaker 2: a Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 8: That is the common wisdom right now is that she

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Speaker 8: because she is a woman of color, that she will

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Speaker 8: put a white male on the ticket. There's never been

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Speaker 8: an American presidential ticket without a white male on it.

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Speaker 8: People are looking at Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 8: Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan. Although she's a female,

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Speaker 8: she is white, took herself out of the running. Today.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people are looking at Senator Mark Kelly

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Speaker 8: of Arizona, who was an astronaut before he became a senator,

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Speaker 8: and whose wife, Gaddy Gibbs, was a popular congresswoman who

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Speaker 8: was shot in the head and permanently brain damage as

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Speaker 8: a results in assassination attempt thirteen years ago. Some people

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Speaker 8: think that between Arizona being a swing state, his biography,

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Speaker 8: and his family history, that he could add a lot

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Speaker 8: to the ticket.

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Speaker 2: How does trouble? How is Trump reacting and can he

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Speaker 2: can she beat him?

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Speaker 8: Trump is reacting as you might expect Trump to react,

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Speaker 8: which is to be sharp negative and drawing contrast. There's

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Speaker 8: already an add up from the Trump superpack that alleges

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Speaker 8: that she covered up Biden's infirmities and ties her to

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Speaker 8: the administration. Can she beat him? Yes, but it's hampered

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Speaker 8: by two things. First of all, she's as unpopular as

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Speaker 8: Biden was, and so she starts behind in the poll. Secondly,

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Speaker 8: she's part of the administration. She's not an eighty one

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Speaker 8: year old man with regrettable but real infirmities. She is

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Speaker 8: somebody who has an identity of being a follower and

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Speaker 8: an identity of being involved in a very unpopular administration.

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Speaker 8: Her challenge is to distinguish herself from the administration, make

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Speaker 8: an image for herself as a leader, while not running

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Speaker 8: away from the time that she has spent as Joe

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Speaker 8: Biden's oil number two. It's a very thin line that

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Speaker 8: she has to.

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Speaker 2: Walk, certainly, as Henry, thanks for your time in your

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Speaker 2: analysis this morning. That's the US election analyst. Henry Olsen

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Speaker 2: is also a columnist for The Washington Post, saying there

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Speaker 2: that basically Karmen Horse is as unpopular as Biden was,

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Speaker 2: and she still has to carry his baggage through this campaign.

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Speaker 2: It is eight minutes away from six. Mic Hossing next,

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Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge twenty twenty four, on early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bids and a play at store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be five to six here on news

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Speaker 2: Talk said be. The Democratic Congressional leadership is apparently going

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Speaker 2: to endorse Carmen Harris for the nominee to be president today.

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi has already done that too. Mike Hosting is

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Speaker 2: here and he starts after sixth this morning, So it's hers, isn't.

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Speaker 7: It, one assume? So I suppose they wait for Obama,

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Speaker 7: who said yesterday they want some sort of open contest,

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Speaker 7: but that seems to have overtaken them, so I guess

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Speaker 7: it is.

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Speaker 2: So we'll deal with all of that this wing.

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Speaker 7: Mark Gilbert, by the way, who you might remember he

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Speaker 7: was here in twenty fifteen to seventeen as the US ambassador,

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Speaker 7: as nominated by Obama and an ex baseball player of course. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: he's on the program after right. He knows both Harris

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Speaker 7: and Biden extremely well. They've been friends for twenty years. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: I'm listening to your unionists this morning, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well which one we had? Actually two?

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Speaker 7: Well that's too many unionists talk to and so we

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Speaker 7: too many unionists on the program, the health one, Deborah.

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Speaker 7: So all they ever say is we need more money,

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Speaker 7: and it's simply not true. Frustrating it's thirty billion dollars

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Speaker 7: and that you should have watched lux and yesterday was

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Speaker 7: being on about it for about forty minutes post cab

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Speaker 7: thirty billion dollars. Do you know how much? That's six

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Speaker 7: thousand dollars for every man, woman and child each and

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Speaker 7: every year in this country. So I didn't go to

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Speaker 7: hospital last year, so that's six thousand dollars has concer

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Speaker 7: It's a tremendous amount of mate. So the problem is

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Speaker 7: not we need more money. The problem is clearly when

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Speaker 7: you've got twelve layers.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen I think was it fourteen?

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Speaker 7: Let's just say there's a tremendous number of layers and

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Speaker 7: they've worked out that six And I even thought sex

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Speaker 7: was a bit over the top personally. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: think about where you sit in this company and how

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Speaker 7: close you are to the CEO. I mean, obviously very important,

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Speaker 7: but so there's not many you know, there's not many

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Speaker 7: between you and the boss. But you know six is

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Speaker 7: plenty twelve or fourteen?

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Speaker 2: I mean you're serious.

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Speaker 7: I mean, how does that work? So you can't just

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Speaker 7: throw money at itise precisely. So anyway, we'll talk to

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Speaker 7: we'll talk to a couple of people about that, including

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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister who's with us up to seven.

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