1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Going to Ginny Anderson, who's the Labor police spokesperson, because 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the Police Minister Mark Mitchell is refusing to allow Labor 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: a Labour's Genny Anderson to meet an Auckland police inspector. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Sounds pretty petty to me. It comes two years after 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell himself, who was then National's police spokesperson in opposition, 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: you'll remember, was blocked from meeting with police leaders by 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the then Police Minister Portor Williams, a decision he said 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: was petulant and vindictive. Ginny Anderson's with us, good morning. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Good morning Ryan. How are you. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm good, thank you. Now I just want to read 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: you what he has said his office has told us. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: He says, basically, I would support such a request if 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: you were going to meet with the commissioner. I cannot 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: support a generic request to visit a police station with 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: no context, with a week's notice. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's walking that back quite quickly because 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: he's realized that he has made a mistake. It's a 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: well established practice that you go to the minister's office. Borrows. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: Myself and Chris Hopkins never made any attempts to stop 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: him from making visits when he was the opposition spokesperson 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: and all the information that's required as the date and 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: the place and who you intend to meet with. So 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I think he's realized that he's reacted in the wrong way. 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: So were you just going to bowl up or had 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: you been contact with someone there to meet with them? 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: No, we'd sort of to the MP on the ground 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: often makes inquiries, but we wouldn't attend unless the minister 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: had approved. 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: But was the meeting did you speak to did you 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: arrange a meeting with an inspector there and then go 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: get permission from the minister or did you do the 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: minister first? And actually you haven't got a specific meeting 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: in mind. 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: I think Shannon Helbert had done some preliminary work, but 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: we wouldn't do that until the minister had approved the meeting. 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Right, Because it sounds like he says, I cannot support 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: a generic request to visit a police station with no 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: con for the week to notice. It sounds like he 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: was worried that if he gave you permission, you were 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: just going to bowl up there and just sort of 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: harass people. 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: No, No, that's not the practice. It's quite an established 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: practice that you only speak with someone who's inspector level 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: or higher, and it's a meeting usually in the station, 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: and it would be half an hour for an hour. 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: He'd done it many many times himself. He should know 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: that it's a pretty standard practice. And the overall concern 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: is we would not want to politicize the police. So 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: it's fighting by general rules to make sure the police 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: are protected from visits and they're not dragged into any 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: sort of political you. 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, fair enough. Who was the inspector, Janine, What 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: did you want to talk to them about? 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh, well, we were quite interested in an Auckland retail 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: crime that has been an ongoing issue for both governments. 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: So it's important we understand the recent events that have 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: been acting, how they're impacting upon the community, and also 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: what measures police are putting into place to reassure the 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: community that things are being responded to quickly. 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: Jenny, thank you very much for coming on the show. 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: Ginny Anderson, Labour's police spokesperson, responding there to Mark Mitchell's 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: refusal to allow her into the police station in Albany. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks B listen live on air 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: or online and keep our shows with you wherever you 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,