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Speaker 1: Hello, Cuda, Welcome to a very special episode of our podcasts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: promoting another podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's podcast inception.

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Speaker 3: Right now now, I feel like I had no choice

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Speaker 3: to plug this one because my daughter Siena is in

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Speaker 3: here with us right now.

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Speaker 2: Hello Siena. Hello, Now what's going on? What's happening?

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got a brand new podcast called When I

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Speaker 4: Grow Up.

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Speaker 1: You've got a podcast, got a bloody podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, podcast. You're going to hear the first episode of

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Speaker 3: the podcast. But why we we plug? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: guess I'm on the podcast with you, But what are

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Speaker 3: you created? You need to plug the podcast?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well all the free stuff and skeits have done for

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Speaker 4: you guys over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah enough child labor though you didn't even think about

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Speaker 1: when the child grow You know, when the children grow

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Speaker 1: up from those factories, they start wanting money and they

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Speaker 1: start learning about rights and human rights. Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: is if this is the least we can do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, it's the least you can do.

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Speaker 1: Give me one once this little plug's done with square.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the first episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Actually really rewarding podcasts to be part of seeing a

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Speaker 3: you host it with myself, and it's explained the idea

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Speaker 3: behind the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's very hard to know what you want to

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Speaker 4: be when you grow up. So on the podcast, we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk to inspirational females to hear this story

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Speaker 4: and inspire young people. It's great to listen with parents

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Speaker 4: and with your kids.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, who we talk? What big bangers are we talking?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What's some of the guests we've talked.

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Speaker 3: To so far?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're ready for this list?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Eliza McCartney, pol Voter, Yep, Poul Voter, Lucy Lawless, actor,

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Speaker 4: Nano girl, science educator, engineer, actually, Jazz Thornton no.

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Speaker 1: Jas Thornton mental health advocations.

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Speaker 2: She's actually the first episode of the podcast you're about

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Speaker 2: to hear shortly.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Karen Walker and Grayson Wiki.

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Speaker 1: Karen Walker fashion designer as well, and the netballer Grace

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Speaker 1: and Wiki. Well that sounds like a great line up.

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Speaker 3: Where are the men?

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Speaker 5: We're maybe two?

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Speaker 2: It's inspirational females, so inspiring your generation.

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Speaker 4: Already had this, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mind you.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of mean with podcasts

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Speaker 2: Really cool thing to do if you listen with your

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Speaker 4: Thirty minutes long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so good for like shorter attention span. So he's

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Speaker 3: the first episode with Jazz Thorn and a lot of

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Speaker 3: great stuff from Jazz. She is amazing. Her great stuff

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Speaker 3: are dealing with mental health, with anxiety and also social media,

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Speaker 3: whether it's good or bad. And it's interesting coming from

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Speaker 3: someone who's got millions and millions of views on social media.

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Speaker 3: What her thoughts are?

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Speaker 2: Now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Can I can I say something about Jess Thorn?

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Speaker 2: I love her, love her dearly.

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Speaker 3: But the other day we.

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Speaker 1: Ran into a cross the road at the cafe and

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Speaker 1: my coffee order it comes in a tiny little cup

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Speaker 1: scene it it's called a piccolo. Okay, it's very mockable

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Speaker 1: hockable drinking. I hold it like this and she's like

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Speaker 1: that is the tiniest little cup of coffee and she boom.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, don't mock me on social media

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Speaker 1: Last time I'm tagged in. She's like, look at this

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Speaker 1: tiny public shaming of my tiny little coffee here now,

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Speaker 1: and I see you'd see you see that was for

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Speaker 1: your personal collection that the people in America are blowing

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Speaker 1: up about this. Yeah, I've never seen such a tiny

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Speaker 3: Oh, John's got a tiny puffy. We've got a tiny podcasts.

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Speaker 3: I would love you to listen till you can catch

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Speaker 3: up with it every week on iHeartRadio where you get

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Speaker 3: your podcast. It's called When I.

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Speaker 4: Grow Up the Heads podcast network mine never seeing it

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Speaker 4: and this is my dadmin.

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Speaker 5: Hi, and when I grow.

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Speaker 4: Up, I want to be a TikTok start right, or a.

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Speaker 2: Sports player Okay, hang on, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Even a fashion designer. Actually maybe in all.

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Speaker 3: Player Okay, okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to

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Speaker 3: some amazing females who inspire you and who.

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Speaker 4: You want to be, like, yeah, and we can find

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Speaker 4: out what they did to get where they are.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and there's do it as a TV show.

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Speaker 4: No, Dad, only old people watch TV. They do it

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Speaker 4: as a podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that worksnop.

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Speaker 5: This is when I grow Up.

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Speaker 4: Today's guest is Jazz Thornton. As you're here, Jazz does

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Speaker 4: incredible things to help people with mental health, especially young people.

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Speaker 4: She shares her inspiring story on the podcast Jazz is awesome.

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Speaker 3: She's great, I'd say, seeing her like, she's got lots

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Speaker 4: Never said that. Every time you see someone call you

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Speaker 4: think something's for you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they got lots of risks.

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Speaker 4: She tells a pin that there's lots of risk because you.

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Speaker 5: Think your work so much.

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Speaker 3: I love saying because it winds you up so much.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, though, Jairs is amazing. It was really cool to

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Speaker 3: find out some tips for mental health for teens, for pearents,

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Speaker 4: And also some good ways when you're dealing with anxiety

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Speaker 3: At one point on the podcast, you'll hear she even

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Speaker 3: got me crying with one story, Dad, You crying with.

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Speaker 4: Every movie, every animated movie, joy story and turned out.

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Speaker 4: And that's if you don't fall asleep because they're all

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, there's nothing about me watching the movies. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's true.

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Speaker 4: Jazz is also a TikTok style with millions of followers,

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Speaker 4: and I found it really interesting asking her to answer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the of the block button. It is quite interesting, right,

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Speaker 4: Also hangs out with famous people. We find out how

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Speaker 5: Mega Marco, and now Jazz got to hang out with me.

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Speaker 3: So that's great, isn't that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not quite as cool.

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Speaker 4: Told me, I, have you enjoyed our chat as much

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Speaker 3: It really falled me the hope and as you did,

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Speaker 3: I'd be pretty proud if you ended up helping people

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Speaker 4: Does hey, dad, today, when I grow up, I want

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, shit, it's I don't know if it's awkwod

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Speaker 4: Yeah, j it's so nice to meet you. I've been

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's so nice to meet you. I think that

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Speaker 3: I for you on the spot. Yes, yeah, What what

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Speaker 3: do you admire about Jazz? Then? Why would you want

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I love your tektik, I love

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Speaker 3: Love it when I do TikTok, and do I get involved?

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Speaker 3: You're embarrassing me.

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, that's just because you're you.

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Speaker 4: That jazz helps people so many, like so many people

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Speaker 4: you help people with their mental health. And with doing

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Speaker 3: But I guess to get to where you are now, Jazz,

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Speaker 3: How do you feel when you look back at that

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I think I often find myself kind of

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Speaker 6: you know what, Actually, all of that stuff, as much

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Jazz, I read around my age you didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess what you're saying. Are you're looking back? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I just like, there's so much more in the world

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Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up a mask and the world

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Speaker 4: To hear about your stupid mask. Well, you talk about

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Speaker 4: when I grew up. I don't have social media.

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Speaker 6: And I think what happens and what happened for me,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just having those spaces, try and reactivate dinner times

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Speaker 4: You bring a lot of people hope with what you've done.

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Speaker 5: Yes, doctor Stiff.

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Speaker 6: Talk to always always, and I think just keep asking

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Speaker 3: And so you just take a moment for yourself somewhere

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I will do that often before I get

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Speaker 3: Now, you at your charity, you know voices of hope,

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Speaker 3: I've got hope. I've got the right message from all

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Speaker 5: And that's what Stiff did with me. She was like, no, Jaz,

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Speaker 6: But I think being able to try and look forward

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Speaker 6: And so to be able to stand there and be like,

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Speaker 4: So when did you decide to use your story and

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Speaker 6: But I decided to go to film school because when

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Speaker 6: what it is, they're facing can go find hope, So

446
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 6: study directing. But yeah, my first show got picked up

447
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 6: that had two terms into film school, and then the

448
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 6: movie got signed and the books got signed the year after,

449
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 6: and then it kind of just then.

450
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040
Speaker 5: I got on TikTok. I don't even wanted to do

451
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520
Speaker 5: but talk to Stiff's kids, but like, you gotta get

452
00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 5: on TikTok.

453
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,639
Speaker 6: And I was like, no, in the first video over

454
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 6: post it was so lame. It was a freaking dog

455
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 6: with a stick like a run. I don't know what

456
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 6: I was doing, And then started to share. But I

457
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,880
Speaker 6: did the series and the movie and the first book

458
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 6: before TikTok existed, and I guess TikTok really is just

459
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 6: what blew up?

460
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, everything, but yes it was.

461
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,959
Speaker 6: It was a decision to tell these stories, not necessarily

462
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 6: my story to this extent, but it happened.

463
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Speaker 5: And now I'm like, oh, well, if people find hope

464
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,520
Speaker 5: in it is what it happens.

465
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Speaker 4: Is it hard putting yourself out there? And like how

466
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 4: many nasty comments you encounter? Like how do you deal

467
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 4: with that?

468
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean there's always negativity, I guess, Jaz. I

469
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 3: mean just google John O and Bean if you want

470
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,720
Speaker 3: to make yourself feel better.

471
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Speaker 6: I've learned the power of the block button on social media.

472
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 6: I love a girl blah blah blah blah. If people

473
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 6: are mean, I'm like, I don't have to see this.

474
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 6: People don't have to comment.

475
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,439
Speaker 3: This is the thing. And it probably sounds like an

476
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: old man ranting here, so you know, we'll roll her eyes.

477
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 3: But you don't have to comment on everything. If you

478
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 3: don't like something, you don't have to comment.

479
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 5: It's true.

480
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 4: You can get away though, Like why do you feel

481
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 4: the need to comment on someone else's video.

482
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 3: All the time? You know, but that's kind of I

483
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 3: guess within social media is encouraged to comment. Yeah, but

484
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, oh don't. You can probably walk away

485
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 3: and not comment.

486
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Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of the main backlash that

487
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 6: I've had was at the start, and it was all

488
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Speaker 6: like middle aged specifically, to be honest, middle aged men.

489
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was basically just but they were very much

490
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 5: just like because they still couldn't get past the attention

491
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Speaker 5: seeking as.

492
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 6: So they were just like the film was getting announced

493
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 6: and they were like this attention seeking blah blah blah,

494
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 6: and I was like, oh my gosh, like come on,

495
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 6: but I've started to kind of I'm like, hey, most

496
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 6: of our statistics and it aged men, so this is

497
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 6: not just for our teenagers.

498
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for you everyone, every right.

499
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't just upset older people like that.

500
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 5: You upset it.

501
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 4: Uky one of their chocolates wrong.

502
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Speaker 5: This is the most viral thing I have ever done.

503
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: So if not if people are listening to that, what

504
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 3: the heck was this? There was a chocolate from the UK,

505
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 3: you got sent from a friend and you weren't sure

506
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: how to eat it, but you ate it on TikTok

507
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 3: and everyone was like it almost called a national incident

508
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: between New Zealand and the UK because you ate it wrong.

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was.

510
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 6: It was, and all the like media radio stations from

511
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 6: around the world were covering this.

512
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Speaker 5: Poor world. Do you get it?

513
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 6: Bloody if any food item and go, oh you know

514
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 6: how I eat this? I smash it on a table,

515
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 6: I ate it.

516
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

517
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Speaker 5: I thought the way you ate it, to be fair,

518
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 5: was the way it was. How did you eat it?

519
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 5: I got it? So you're supposed that the whole concept,

520
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Speaker 5: thank you.

521
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 6: You're supposed to smash it and then it falls into

522
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 6: segments and then you eat the segments, but I didn't

523
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Speaker 6: know this information.

524
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Speaker 4: Does it have instructions on it? No?

525
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Speaker 5: Mine didn't because it was a nineteenth box.

526
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 4: Well, yeah they can't.

527
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 5: They can't get mad, you know.

528
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 6: But didn't have instructions I have trying to prevent me

529
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 6: now from getting in the border of the United Kingdom.

530
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Speaker 5: It was like a petition that went out.

531
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Speaker 3: Really sometimes.

532
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Speaker 4: This is when I grow up. You're big on techtok,

533
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 4: love what you do, but you have millions of followers.

534
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: I found myself watching too much techtok and dad tells

535
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: me to get off. Yeah. So what do you actually

536
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 4: think of social media? Good or bad?

537
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 5: I think both, and you say good.

538
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 6: I think what is amazing about social media is that

539
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 6: when your dad was growing up, and especially I think

540
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 6: a woman that you know your age, the only idea

541
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Speaker 6: that you had of people were magazines was the Kardashians

542
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 6: was edited things that was selected by the media, So

543
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Speaker 6: there was no other way.

544
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 5: At least it was like reality TV.

545
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 6: There was no other way to see normal lives, so

546
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 6: you were only kind of rowing up seeing this picture

547
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 6: perfect body and like these perfect bodies and that's it,

548
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 6: We're Social media has completely taken that power away from

549
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 6: the media and is like, this is real life, These

550
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 6: are real bodies, these are real stories. My life is

551
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 6: not glamorous. And I think there's definitely a lot of

552
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 6: negatives to social media. We all know that the bullying,

553
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 6: the time consumed, but the stuff that you can learn

554
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 6: on there, the fact that you can grow up and

555
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 6: see people like myself on there, or people that don't

556
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 6: aren't cut Ashians or have pitch perfect lives.

557
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Speaker 5: But that's actually really healthy in my opinion.

558
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way. You're right, it's opened the world up.

559
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 5: To not just that select Yeah, screen time not as healthy.

560
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 5: I don't even want to know what line is.

561
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Speaker 6: And obviously there is a lot of danger to social

562
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 6: media and stuff, but I think the reality is it's

563
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 6: not going anywhere, so learning how to use that. Setting

564
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 6: screen time limits for especially your age, as very important.

565
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 5: Otherwise in your world just becomes.

566
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Speaker 6: Social media and how many likes can I get in that,

567
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 6: which is not important in the real world at all.

568
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 3: But you can see things can go off. Put this

569
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: video out, they didn't get.

570
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 6: Your self worth starts to go with it because you're like, oh,

571
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 6: this photo didn't get as many likes, or you're looking

572
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 6: through to see who liked it.

573
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 5: My friend didn't like well, wherever.

574
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: It may be.

575
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 6: So my biggest thing is how do we teach young

576
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 6: people to not put their worth and their identity in

577
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 6: social media. That's kind of more. I think how even

578
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 6: how parents and stuff, how we can encourage that.

579
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: You've done so many amazing things, from winning reality shows

580
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 4: to speaking at the un movies.

581
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: Books podcast, this podcast, this podcast.

582
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 4: What is the one thing you're most proud of?

583
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Speaker 3: Man?

584
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: I think all of these things have been really cool

585
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 6: to do, and you know, I would have never imagined

586
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 6: winning Dancing with the Stars, will been able to work

587
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 6: with Prince Harryt and do this crazy things. But I

588
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 6: think above absolutely everything, there was a moment I'll never

589
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 6: forget where I was speaking at a conference and there

590
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 6: was this mother that came up to me and she

591
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 6: was just crying and I looked at her and I

592
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 6: hugged her, and then she just said, my daughter, she's

593
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 6: been in and out of sight words for a long time.

594
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 6: She's been really struggling, and she I got her your

595
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: book and when she read it, it was the first

596
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 6: time that she felt her the first time that she felt.

597
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Speaker 2: Like there was hope.

598
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Speaker 6: And I remember kind of looking up and the daughter

599
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 6: was there and she's crying, and I just in that moment,

600
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 6: was like, man, this is why this tops anything, any

601
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 6: kind of achievements, as you don't do it for anything

602
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 6: else than those moments of going these people know that

603
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Speaker 6: there's hope.

604
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Speaker 3: It must be special for you, you know, And I

605
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: mean your story has helped so many people.

606
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Speaker 5: I think I cry every time that I meet people

607
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: like that. And now it's happening all over the world.

608
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: I was in the US or the UK and Scotland

609
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 6: and there's people coming up to me there saying the

610
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 6: same thing, and it's so cool to go actually, like

611
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: all I've done is gone, Hey, there's hope, and other

612
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 6: people have chosen to fight to stay and I think

613
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: that's what's really cool.

614
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but above Prince William and Prince Harry hanging out

615
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: with them, you.

616
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: Know, cool, but not as cool as their period. Like

617
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't care about it, Like it's cool,

618
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 5: and I'm like, wow, how do I end up here?

619
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Speaker 5: But that's never the reason you do it. And I

620
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 5: stopped it.

621
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Speaker 6: If people weren't getting impacted by the story, I'm not

622
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 6: doing my job right. So it's you know that one

623
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 6: hundred percent. It's always those stories that just oh that's why, why.

624
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: Why, that's the why you do it? Okay, so we

625
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: need to ask how did you end up hanging out

626
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: with Megan and Harry.

627
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Speaker 6: So we actually nearly missed this entire opportunity. We were

628
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 6: getting this this email. I do a lot of speaking,

629
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 6: and I got this email from this woman who sits

630
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Speaker 6: us from Wellington being like, hey, can you come down

631
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 6: and speak at this conference? And at the time I

632
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 6: was like, I'm really buzy, Like I just she was like,

633
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 6: give me a call when you can. We played phone

634
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Speaker 6: tag for like two weeks and eventually I was like,

635
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 6: I need to answer the lady from Wellington, and so

636
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 6: I answered the phone and she goes, I don't actually

637
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 6: want you to speak an event. I'm a Royal advisor

638
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 6: and Prince Harry and Meghan are coming to New Zealand

639
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 6: and they want to have coffee with you.

640
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and I was like oh.

641
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Speaker 5: And afterwards they were email The first time.

642
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 6: I think she just wanted like to know I was

643
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 6: legit right and I wasn't just going to jump on

644
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 6: it for that reason, and then her like the signature afterwards,

645
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 6: added Royal Advisor, and I was like, you told me

646
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 6: that in the first place.

647
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Speaker 3: So you meet them for like your coffee?

648
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

649
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

650
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 6: So we went down to Wellington, we meet them for coffee,

651
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 6: and I remember sitting there being like, what.

652
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: Do we do you bow?

653
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 6: Do you say you're like Wood Curtsey and then came

654
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 6: in and they just kind of like shook our hands,

655
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 6: sit down, and like afterwards were hugging us, and I

656
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 6: was like, I feel like we weren't supposed to do that,

657
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 6: and you're also not supposed to like like take photos

658
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 6: properly with them, but we did that, which I'm so

659
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 6: glad that we did. But yeah, they were so nice.

660
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 6: And then wait, I don't know, this is really funny.

661
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 6: We were doing interviews afterwards and one of the reporters

662
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 6: was asking us how was it. It was a good

663
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 6: and gin so we're having coffee and then there was

664
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Speaker 6: like slices and stuff on there and she was like,

665
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 6: the ginger crunch was really good. The reporter thought that

666
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 6: she was talking about Prince Harry, so he got the

667
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 6: nickname the ginger Crunch from Crossing.

668
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that shows that they are you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're just real people, you know, Like, yes

670
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Speaker 3: they have again they have a thing that their jobs

671
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Speaker 3: where the actors or Yal family has put them on

672
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Speaker 3: a real public profile.

673
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Speaker 5: I think it's really.

674
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Speaker 6: Funny though, because we even then. I don't know if

675
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Speaker 6: you know this, but me and Jing got an award

676
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Speaker 6: from Her Majesty the Queen US. We were supposed to Buckingham,

677
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 6: so we did some stuff with obviously with Harry and Meghan,

678
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 6: and then we went and met with the Royal Foundation,

679
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 6: which is the people that they were doing stuff with.

680
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Speaker 6: But yeah, the award from the Queen. We were supposed

681
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 6: to go and receive it in Buckingham, but it was

682
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Speaker 6: in COVID so we couldn't.

683
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Speaker 5: So I arrived at our house in the post cracked

684
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 5: and this like it was so bad, and I was like,

685
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: this is from the Palace and it's like in this

686
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: little weird no. But it's got a little Queeny's signature

687
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Speaker 5: on it, ri ip.

688
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Speaker 4: But what was it?

689
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Speaker 5: It was an award for our service to mental health

690
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Speaker 5: as well in the Commonwealth.

691
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to each, you just wonder share

692
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: one each. That's good, that's good.

693
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Speaker 5: It is a great time.

694
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Speaker 4: You've done a lot of reality TV. What was harder

695
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: learning dancing steps and dancing with the stars or going

696
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: without much food on Celebrity Treasure.

697
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Celebrity Treasure Island really, oh my gosh, learning dance steps

698
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 3: through the day, and.

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Speaker 6: I mean Dancing with the Stars was rough, like that's

700
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Speaker 6: eleven hour like eleven hour days, eleven weeks, like you

701
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 6: don't have a single day because we were in rehearsals

702
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 6: before anything was an hours and so it was crazy

703
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 6: TikTok TikTok Dancing the.

704
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Speaker 5: Stars and it was live as well, which was scary show.

705
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: That TikTok Dancing the Stars. Just put it up, who

706
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: gets the most views over a week?

707
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Speaker 5: Great idea, dance, don't I see it?

708
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Speaker 3: I was like, please dig up, don't you go on that.

709
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: You've tried to stay in my brain though dancing obviously

710
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: it does with you. You know you can learn.

711
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Speaker 6: Steps, managed to do it Treasure Island. First of all,

712
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 6: I'm like, there's so many reasons that I could. I

713
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 6: was just terrible. I had just had COVID as well,

714
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 6: Like I was pushed out a day from going because

715
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 6: I had COVID, and then you know, I'm asthmatic, I'm

716
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: disleeks like I'm adhd.

717
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: My hand was broken and so trying to do anything

718
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: was was so hard.

719
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: But I think, yeah, living on rice and beans and

720
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 6: I've got I'm allergic to seafood and so like people

721
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: were trying to catch fish and I was like, well,

722
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 6: I can't you know, eat any of that. And then

723
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Speaker 6: you're doing these big endurance challenges and yeah, it's like

724
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 6: it's crazy. You get like we got emergency evacuated one night,

725
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 6: and it's just you just cry every day.

726
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: I feel like for TV, they would go and stop

727
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: record and then be like all right, guys, great, shoot,

728
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: let's go to the airbnb, the hotel. Nah, but it's

729
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: like it's legit. You guys are in there.

730
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Speaker 6: We you don't have pillows. I think that was the

731
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 6: big thing, like you had, and I was just like

732
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: could no, No, you weren't allowed. So you had to

733
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: like roll up sweatshirts and like just try to use that.

734
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: And then you're allowed to bring like a pillow case

735
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: and stuff it with clothes.

736
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 6: So that's what some people did. I didn't know this information,

737
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: and so I'm going to out myself here. When we

738
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 6: got emergency evacuated and we went to the hotel howls.

739
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 6: I took the hotel. I was like, I'm so sorry,

740
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 6: I will pay the hotel mat. They have so many

741
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 6: of them because some people did that.

742
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, you just kind of had to like roll

743
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: up like cloth, yeah and then just kind of use

744
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: it as the case and yeah, like school camp, they

745
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: give you a list of going all these are all

746
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: the things.

747
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 6: You kind of yes, but I've got so much stuff

748
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: taken off me because they bag search you as if

749
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Speaker 6: you were like coming into a new country and you've

750
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: got all the illegal stuff. So like I had like

751
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 6: baby wipes got taken off me because they could be

752
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: used as toilet paper.

753
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: I use toilet paper.

754
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 6: I was like, this is all like no mirrors, but

755
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 6: they us have makeup so you could do your makeup

756
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: without any mirrors, which was I just was like this,

757
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 6: maybe you could like smash the mirror something well a

758
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 6: year or like maybe the mirror would start a fire

759
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Speaker 6: if you know.

760
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Speaker 5: And where we were and Wonnaca like it's quite dry land,

761
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 5: but it was. I think Slippertish Ryland was the hardest

762
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Speaker 5: thing I had done you ever done, absolutely like it

763
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Speaker 5: was wild. Would I do it again? Probably because it's

764
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: I love that kind of thing. It's fun, but it

765
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: definitely takes.

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Speaker 4: It before we go. I want to fire at you,

767
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: Sam quick fire questions to find out if I really

768
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: want to be like you.

769
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Speaker 5: This game is called this or that?

770
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Ready, TikTok or Instagram TikTok, Harry Styles or Harry Potter,

771
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: Harry Styles, Okay, Dandles or Crocs, Crocs, Minecraft or Fortnite.

772
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: I haven't played either.

773
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: Prime Energy or Frank Green Drink Bottle, Frank Green everyone.

774
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: I love Frank Emotion or support water Okay, Kindle or

775
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: a real book, Real book, Netflix or Snapchat, Netflix, air

776
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: pods or a zero point five photo.

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: Zero point five is the new Well, it's probably not

778
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: feel like I've just got on to it. It's very

779
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: cool high angle stuff.

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I have my AirPod Maxes, which I love.

781
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: Like those different.

782
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a different. Okay, I'm gonna get in

783
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 6: that case. I'm going to do zero point five.

784
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: But also all right, sleep in or.

785
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: Stay up late, sleep and Barby movie or Fast and Furious,

786
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: Prince Harry or Prince William. They're probably not going to

787
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: hear that.

788
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, she think he wants is going to do

789
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: the chocolate either, we don't want to know that. How

790
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: about we don't know? Answer that one? We don't want

791
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: to cause another incidental incident.

792
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: It's the final JOHNO will be in, can't there?

793
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for what you did.

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: I definitely want to be like you because you have

795
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: so many people. What you do now literally saves lives.

796
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing your story and giving people hope.

797
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much.

798
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: How cool is Jazz? Do you see why I want

800
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: to be like her?

801
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: She is cool? But also she chose you over me?

802
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Right?

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00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Now, really inspiring us so much great advice from Jazz,

804
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: and I actually found really interesting Her answer about how

805
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: she choose to help people over anything that she's achieved

806
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: personally is yeah, awesome.

807
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: It shows what a sort of person she is.

808
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: You know, so settled, you want to grow up and

809
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: you want to be Jess Lawnton.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well maybe, but there's lenchy of other inspiring people who I.

812
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: Could be like, Oh, so we're doing this again, aren't we?

813
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe or you'll miss out.

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Speaker 4: And who the nixt inspiring person could be