1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason vine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:16,667 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB the scoop from the track, field and 3 00:00:16,947 --> 00:00:20,187 Speaker 1: the Court on your home of Sport. Weekend Sport with 4 00:00:20,507 --> 00:00:22,187 Speaker 1: Jason Vine News talks. 5 00:00:22,547 --> 00:00:24,987 Speaker 2: The Blues a throw to their second Super Rugby finaland 6 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:27,267 Speaker 2: three years thirty four to twenty they beat the Brumbies 7 00:00:27,347 --> 00:00:29,747 Speaker 2: last night. Assistant coach Paul Tito is with us. You 8 00:00:29,827 --> 00:00:32,907 Speaker 2: sleep okay after that last night, Paul, And. 9 00:00:33,187 --> 00:00:36,147 Speaker 3: To be honest, it didn't, you know. I mean it 10 00:00:36,227 --> 00:00:38,107 Speaker 3: was one of those ones you but get up for 11 00:00:38,707 --> 00:00:41,547 Speaker 3: big game and couldn't get back to sleep afterwards. Should 12 00:00:41,547 --> 00:00:42,227 Speaker 3: have another wine. 13 00:00:43,347 --> 00:00:46,347 Speaker 2: Well, that always tends to help anything, in particular the 14 00:00:46,427 --> 00:00:48,267 Speaker 2: head you're tossing and turning or I mean, you must 15 00:00:48,267 --> 00:00:50,867 Speaker 2: be pretty pleased. It always felt like you were in 16 00:00:50,907 --> 00:00:52,067 Speaker 2: control or did it not? 17 00:00:53,747 --> 00:00:55,987 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you know, we had, like you said, 18 00:00:56,027 --> 00:00:59,547 Speaker 3: we had twenty five minutes of really good stuff and 19 00:00:59,587 --> 00:01:01,107 Speaker 3: then you know, we let the foot off the throat 20 00:01:01,147 --> 00:01:06,787 Speaker 3: there for fifteen minutes and didn't allow them back in 21 00:01:06,867 --> 00:01:08,667 Speaker 3: the game. But we just didn't take a hold of 22 00:01:08,667 --> 00:01:11,427 Speaker 3: the game like we had been doing. So you know, 23 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:13,947 Speaker 3: there's always stuff to work on. As a team and 24 00:01:14,027 --> 00:01:16,027 Speaker 3: as a coaching group, we're always trying to get better. 25 00:01:16,107 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 3: So we just got to be better in those moments 26 00:01:19,667 --> 00:01:23,187 Speaker 3: and not give teams, you know, that down period that 27 00:01:23,187 --> 00:01:24,947 Speaker 3: we haven't given these teams opportunity. 28 00:01:25,787 --> 00:01:28,787 Speaker 2: Is that something that you were concerned about going in. 29 00:01:29,747 --> 00:01:32,707 Speaker 2: Had you talked about, you know, periods of games where 30 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:35,427 Speaker 2: perhaps you hadn't been quite at optimum levels. 31 00:01:36,907 --> 00:01:38,867 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the nature of the game. You know, 32 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:41,027 Speaker 3: like you don't have it all your own way all 33 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:45,107 Speaker 3: the time, So it's your ability to take control when 34 00:01:45,547 --> 00:01:49,107 Speaker 3: you do lose that control. Stacking good moments on good 35 00:01:49,107 --> 00:01:52,227 Speaker 3: moments is obviously the ideal, and then the reverse of 36 00:01:52,227 --> 00:01:56,227 Speaker 3: that is obviously bad moments on bad moments on bad moments. 37 00:01:56,307 --> 00:01:58,787 Speaker 3: So that's the thing that that's the cycle you want 38 00:01:58,827 --> 00:02:01,427 Speaker 3: to get out of. So yeah, I'm sure it's something 39 00:02:01,467 --> 00:02:04,427 Speaker 3: that we'll touch on this week and how that looks 40 00:02:05,267 --> 00:02:05,907 Speaker 3: for the final. 41 00:02:06,467 --> 00:02:10,907 Speaker 2: The Blues blueprint is very obvious and has been really successful, 42 00:02:10,907 --> 00:02:14,147 Speaker 2: a brutal forwards based game plan. How have you and 43 00:02:14,187 --> 00:02:17,227 Speaker 2: the other coach has gone about imprinting that and maintaining it? 44 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:23,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, I mean, like we've we've 45 00:02:23,507 --> 00:02:26,667 Speaker 3: played this way since the start of the season. You 46 00:02:26,787 --> 00:02:30,107 Speaker 3: look back to the Crusaders and when they've won, you know, 47 00:02:30,187 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 3: their titles throughout the past years. You know, they most 48 00:02:34,347 --> 00:02:38,227 Speaker 3: really play quite expensive rugby in March February when when 49 00:02:38,267 --> 00:02:41,787 Speaker 3: the weather is good and by the time final footy comes, 50 00:02:41,787 --> 00:02:44,867 Speaker 3: you know they're they're closing up and squeezing things up 51 00:02:44,907 --> 00:02:48,107 Speaker 3: a bit and go back to their set piece. And 52 00:02:49,067 --> 00:02:52,907 Speaker 3: so I think that's the key to winning titles, is 53 00:02:53,307 --> 00:02:57,547 Speaker 3: a dominant set piece and been being nice and accurate 54 00:02:57,787 --> 00:03:01,587 Speaker 3: in the breakdown. So yeah, hey, we've implemented it well 55 00:03:01,627 --> 00:03:05,587 Speaker 3: throughout the year in various different ways and it's been 56 00:03:05,587 --> 00:03:06,787 Speaker 3: a real strength of ours. 57 00:03:06,827 --> 00:03:10,507 Speaker 2: So yeah, how much does it help Paul as well 58 00:03:10,507 --> 00:03:12,947 Speaker 2: that it's actually working when you have to reinforce these 59 00:03:12,947 --> 00:03:15,867 Speaker 2: messages week after week. How much does it help that 60 00:03:15,947 --> 00:03:18,507 Speaker 2: actually what you're asking the players to do is actually 61 00:03:18,587 --> 00:03:19,187 Speaker 2: working for you. 62 00:03:20,947 --> 00:03:22,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's critical as a coach, isn't it. You know 63 00:03:24,107 --> 00:03:26,627 Speaker 3: you've got a plan, you know you have the players 64 00:03:27,147 --> 00:03:30,267 Speaker 3: to implement that plan is the key, and you've got 65 00:03:30,267 --> 00:03:32,347 Speaker 3: there real buy and I think that's all we've had 66 00:03:32,347 --> 00:03:37,147 Speaker 3: from the group to share, especially the leaders. You know, 67 00:03:37,147 --> 00:03:40,067 Speaker 3: they really lead from the front and and really grabbed 68 00:03:40,067 --> 00:03:41,787 Speaker 3: the bull by the horns and taking us forward. And 69 00:03:43,227 --> 00:03:46,827 Speaker 3: you know it's basic footy done really well and they're 70 00:03:46,867 --> 00:03:47,827 Speaker 3: really lead in that space. 71 00:03:48,387 --> 00:03:50,387 Speaker 2: Every campaign, of course, has it setbacks and you talk 72 00:03:50,427 --> 00:03:52,667 Speaker 2: about your leaders. How have you dealt internally with the 73 00:03:52,747 --> 00:03:54,987 Speaker 2: loss of your captain Patrick Tepolts. 74 00:03:56,987 --> 00:04:00,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big loss. P He's a legend guy 75 00:04:00,547 --> 00:04:05,067 Speaker 3: and holds the group really well. But even this week, 76 00:04:05,107 --> 00:04:06,547 Speaker 3: you know, I used them a couple of times and 77 00:04:06,587 --> 00:04:10,267 Speaker 3: meetings and just keeping them involved because he does hold 78 00:04:10,307 --> 00:04:12,987 Speaker 3: that money within the group. So you know, here we 79 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:16,187 Speaker 3: are on this Weekton to make sure we're in the 80 00:04:16,267 --> 00:04:16,787 Speaker 3: right direction. 81 00:04:17,027 --> 00:04:19,547 Speaker 2: And Dalton Papa that he failed in Hia last night. 82 00:04:20,147 --> 00:04:23,067 Speaker 2: I heard some narrative afterwards that he was more just 83 00:04:23,107 --> 00:04:24,987 Speaker 2: forgetting a couple of things which he might have done 84 00:04:25,227 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 2: under any circumstances, any fears that he'll be out for 85 00:04:27,587 --> 00:04:28,427 Speaker 2: the final dots. 86 00:04:29,747 --> 00:04:31,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll leave that to the to the people that 87 00:04:31,867 --> 00:04:33,427 Speaker 3: get paid the big money. You know, I've got a 88 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 3: job to do and I'll leave the mid staff to 89 00:04:36,227 --> 00:04:38,907 Speaker 3: sort that one. I don't really need to be piping 90 00:04:39,027 --> 00:04:39,347 Speaker 3: up with that. 91 00:04:39,827 --> 00:04:43,507 Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, Hoskins STUTU last night another try 92 00:04:43,587 --> 00:04:46,827 Speaker 2: for him. That's the equal most tries in a season 93 00:04:46,827 --> 00:04:49,387 Speaker 2: for a Blues player and the equal most by any 94 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:52,587 Speaker 2: forward in a Super Rugby season. Are these the sorts 95 00:04:52,627 --> 00:04:54,467 Speaker 2: of things that are celebrated or are they more a 96 00:04:54,467 --> 00:04:55,907 Speaker 2: byproduct of performance? 97 00:04:57,107 --> 00:05:00,067 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you know, we celebrate as a team, 98 00:05:00,147 --> 00:05:04,027 Speaker 3: you know, a little milestones like this. But you know, 99 00:05:04,067 --> 00:05:06,907 Speaker 3: hoss has played well all yeah, you know, he's you know, 100 00:05:07,067 --> 00:05:09,667 Speaker 3: last year he was good at the start and most 101 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:12,267 Speaker 3: surely hit had a bit of a blip there for 102 00:05:12,307 --> 00:05:15,227 Speaker 3: a bit and didn't get slipped in the World Cup squad. 103 00:05:15,267 --> 00:05:16,867 Speaker 3: So he's had a real point to prove. This year 104 00:05:17,947 --> 00:05:22,787 Speaker 3: he's been consistent. For me, he's he's carried really well 105 00:05:22,867 --> 00:05:25,067 Speaker 3: and you know he's got great skill set to get 106 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:27,107 Speaker 3: the bad of space and we saw that again last night. 107 00:05:27,867 --> 00:05:30,307 Speaker 2: Do you talk to players like Hoskins and others about 108 00:05:30,587 --> 00:05:34,667 Speaker 2: about higher honors and use that as a carrot or not? 109 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,027 Speaker 3: Not really? You know, we're we're just all about us 110 00:05:37,067 --> 00:05:40,587 Speaker 3: and performing well. And I think there's a good old 111 00:05:40,627 --> 00:05:42,987 Speaker 3: saying if you perform well as a team, they normally 112 00:05:43,267 --> 00:05:47,027 Speaker 3: you do well as individuals. So you know, so if 113 00:05:47,067 --> 00:05:49,267 Speaker 3: you go along deep in this competition, and there's a 114 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:51,787 Speaker 3: couple of you know what I late in the in 115 00:05:51,867 --> 00:05:55,147 Speaker 3: the in the selection process and what that looks like. 116 00:05:55,307 --> 00:05:57,747 Speaker 3: And you normally get the nod because you're playing and 117 00:05:58,067 --> 00:06:00,427 Speaker 3: you're going deep in the comp What. 118 00:06:00,307 --> 00:06:02,907 Speaker 2: Did you think of Tofa Funaki's little backwards chip kick. 119 00:06:05,267 --> 00:06:08,107 Speaker 3: It was an interesting time box if anyone saw the. 120 00:06:08,947 --> 00:06:10,747 Speaker 2: We all saw it, man, we all saw it. 121 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:16,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the three of us look quite calm. Actually, yeah, 122 00:06:16,227 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 3: it was an interesting one. But hey, I am I'll 123 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:22,107 Speaker 3: just worry about getting the ball to the back, so 124 00:06:22,107 --> 00:06:23,107 Speaker 3: I won't have too much to say that. 125 00:06:23,547 --> 00:06:26,627 Speaker 2: Good stuff, And now you can sit back and and 126 00:06:26,907 --> 00:06:29,947 Speaker 2: watch these other two teams beat each other other up 127 00:06:29,947 --> 00:06:32,347 Speaker 2: this afternoon. I know you started your Super Rugby career 128 00:06:32,347 --> 00:06:35,667 Speaker 2: at the Chiefs, but surely the the eighth season Hurricanes 129 00:06:35,707 --> 00:06:38,547 Speaker 2: player and you wants the Canes to win this afternoon, 130 00:06:38,587 --> 00:06:40,307 Speaker 2: even if it means you won't get a home final. 131 00:06:41,667 --> 00:06:45,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Obviously, I've had a lot 132 00:06:45,307 --> 00:06:47,867 Speaker 3: to do with both of the franchises, being involved with 133 00:06:48,667 --> 00:06:50,827 Speaker 3: my coaching days and coach a lot of those guys 134 00:06:50,867 --> 00:06:53,427 Speaker 3: that are in the Chiefs team. So but how are 135 00:06:53,467 --> 00:06:55,707 Speaker 3: you going to put, I think you've got to be selfish, 136 00:06:56,307 --> 00:07:00,667 Speaker 3: you know. I think for us as a Blues organization, 137 00:07:00,747 --> 00:07:03,547 Speaker 3: it would be great if that's the Chiefs got up 138 00:07:03,587 --> 00:07:05,747 Speaker 3: for us, you know, so we can so we can 139 00:07:05,787 --> 00:07:08,107 Speaker 3: play at home. And it's a massive of amur. 140 00:07:08,547 --> 00:07:11,027 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's natural, natural to feel that way. Hey, Paul, 141 00:07:11,027 --> 00:07:13,227 Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Hope you have a relaxing weekend. All the 142 00:07:13,227 --> 00:07:15,227 Speaker 2: best for the week ahead. It's an exciting time for 143 00:07:15,267 --> 00:07:17,587 Speaker 2: the franchise in for its coaching staff. Thanks for taking 144 00:07:17,627 --> 00:07:18,387 Speaker 2: the time for a chat. 145 00:07:18,267 --> 00:07:19,627 Speaker 3: Mate, A good day. 146 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:22,067 Speaker 2: Thank you, no, thank you, Paul Tito There from the Blues. 147 00:07:22,627 --> 00:07:25,827 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 148 00:07:25,947 --> 00:07:29,227 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 149 00:07:29,267 --> 00:07:30,867 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.