1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Foreign Minister Winston Peters has warned Kiwis in Iran and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Israel that they should get out of the ark of 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: danger if they can. The conflict between the two countries 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: has been escalating their new bombings in both countries. Today 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: in Fat currently knows of forty six Kiwis in Iran 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: and seventy nine in Israel, and Winston Peters is with 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: us now high Winston, Hello, how are you? I'm well? 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Thank you? Now? Is the airspace in both of these 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: countries still. 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: Closed to the best my knowledge? 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Yes, So how do people get out? 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: They got to drive? 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: And where did they drive. 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: To to the nearest It's a good question. Well, if 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: you were, you know, in Iran, you want to get 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: at iSER Bazan, that'll be eight hours driving. Yeah, but 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: then you'll need to be ensure that you can make 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: the distance. And these are all sort of considerations where 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: we are trying to help people if they're were seeking advice. 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And does it sound like these people actually plan 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: to leave? 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: It depends. It's the evolving and possibly worsting situation that 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: will make people's minds up. All we can do is 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: given the best advice possible on an hourly basis sometimes. 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Winston, how long do you think this is going to 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: go on for? 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, I hope not for too long. And really it's 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Grete concerned because basically, in the end this country is 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: for peace, not war. I when aware, for diplomacy and 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: talking rather than fighting and all the misery that goes 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: with that. 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: We had Elger Lisp beyond the show on Friday, he 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: reckons this is not World War three. It'll be contained regionally, 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: basically because Iran doesn't have any allies will come to 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: its assistance. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, because the Iran's past behavior 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: and the number of proxies they've got doing horrific things 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, he could be right, but I'd 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: never may I meant about a certainty here into the 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: future without you know, being ultra cautious about things like that. 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Our job is to try and bring about peace. 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: And now do you think that Israel has done the 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: right thing? 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Well, look, we're not excusing anyone because we say at 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: this point in time there are no innocent actors. At 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: a certain time. Your justification for your behavior, if it 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: is prolonged and out of all proportion to the original offense, 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: then that changes the script. But our job is to, 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: as I say, keep New Zealanders out of harms way 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: our post military conflict masculation that our post a nuclear run. 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: We oppose the people starving in the streets and dying 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: from military contract conflict. Brother, And we've designated certain people 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: as being terrorists because by reason of their behavior. We've 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: tried to be balanced about this. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Well, if we don't want a nuclear armed to run, 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: then you're going to have to blow up there nuclear 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: facilities or take out some of the key players, which 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Israel has done. Therefore, Israel has done the right thing. 59 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: No Ah, Look, we do not look at things that 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: way in terms of making an answer. The legality of 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: what a country is doing is based on the evidence 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: that they can provide, and that's yet to come. 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: All right, Winston, thank you. Has always appreciate it. 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