1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Me, I'll make Murray Olds as well as how are 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: you man? 3 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Very good morning, Michael, pretty good, Thank you. 4 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Pretty now, Simon Boomingham. They sort of got taken by surprise. 5 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Was mid afternoon. I happened to be watching Sky Television 6 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: and they said, oh, Birmingham's going and it seemed to 7 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: be like he said, woke up yesterday morning, called a 8 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: meeting in the caucus, said I'm off. Then he gave 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: his valedictory and that's that. 10 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: Is that how it worked? 11 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 4: Well, that's what it's the way it seems, you know. 12 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 4: Obviously this has been sometime in the making. His wife 13 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: is also involved in politics down in South Australia. He's 14 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: been there for seventeen years. He's been very significant player 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: in under Morrison. For example, he was what ministry did 16 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 4: he have? 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: I just forget now. 18 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: But look he's the leading moderate on the liberal side 19 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 4: of parliament of politics in this country. He's one of 20 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: the biggest moderates and him going will as being seen 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: here this morning as gee whiz. Look at the right 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: bearing their fangs, the hard right, and they're trying to get. 23 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: One of their own in. Is that going to be possible? 24 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but there's going to be a Senate 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 4: selection down on Southeastry only when the next election is called. 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: You would imagine it's going to come from the moderates, 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: because these intra party fights over moderates, right left factions 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: and so on, they never look good in public. Might know, so, look, 29 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 4: he's going to be missed. He's been a good, very 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 4: good performer, I think for the conservative side of politics 31 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: here and he will be missed, no doubt. 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: About the parliaments wrapping up, of course, and they've been 33 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: madly trying to pass any number of bits of legislation 34 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: with no sort of inside look at all. But the 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: question being when do you reckon the election is because 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the word yesterday was he elbow is quite keen to 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: go earlier, and he's being talked out of it. 38 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not privy to the internal workings of the 39 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: federal Labor Party machine, but Alban Eazy says last night 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: on national television he said we're going to be back 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: in February at least for a fortnight to look at 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: remaining bills that it wasn't able to ram through. 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: They got through thirty one bills last night. You say, 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: buggerall scrutiny. Just trust us. This will be fine on 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: the day. 46 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: But you know, the election is going to be set 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: against the backdrop of the continuing cost of living crisis. 48 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: You've got Peter. 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: Dutton riding pretty high in the polls and landing blow 50 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: after blow on the government. Albaneze looks pretty chipper though, 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: and the big line he rolled out last night, we've 52 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: got your back. This is going to be a major 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: campaign slogan. I suggest for Labor in the election. Whenever 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: it's called, it must be called Mike by May, as 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: we've discussed previously. 56 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: But February March. They you know, they got off March. 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: Let's say again they've got a budget in March. 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: They've got a budget in March, but there's no you 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: know that they could bring it down. And I mean 60 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: he could call an election, say on Australia Day the 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: it's about a thirty five day minimum. 62 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: Window, so that would take us through. 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: Maybe you can drop a budget in the start of 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: March and go straight to an election promising all sorts 65 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: of things. You know, cost of relief, that's the biggest item. 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: The cost of living over here is really squeezing people big, 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: big time, and I. 68 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Reckon he's going to it, and I'll say he is 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: in the I think he is on the latter part 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: of November because I'm a big, big believer and we've 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: seen it with Trump, and we saw it in this 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: country when you do the poll and you had one 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: this week. Is the country going in the right direction 74 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the moment the majority say no, your toast? 75 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: And that was a very big line from Donald Trump, 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: wasn't it. Are you better off now than you were 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 4: four years ago? 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: You know? 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: And if you frame it that way, there are mums 80 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: and dads sitting around the dining table at night all 81 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: over Australia saying, Blundy, hell, we are we going to 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: get the mortgage this week? The kids need new ship, 83 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: whatever it is, and the money isn't going far enough. 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: And that's going to be a very potent election campaign 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: slogan for Peter Dutton, no doubt about it. 86 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: Interesting is have you seen the Kamela Harris video. 87 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: No. 88 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: I actually meant to look at it last night. I 89 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: got distracted. 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I was well, you can't answer this question. Look at 91 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: it later today because you'll know what I mean. I 92 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: was going to ask, who's crazy? A Kamela Harris Oldia Thorpe. 93 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Is she literally insane? 94 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: She thought, what's her problem? 95 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I don't know. She simply after publicity. She's 96 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: getting plenty of that are their issues, you know, more 97 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: significant health issues, perhaps because she is just she's almost 98 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: out of control in the Senate. I mean, they've never 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: seen behavior like this. You know, she stormed out of 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: the King's speech, you know, screaming and ranting and raving. 101 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: She was banned from the Senate this week for forty 102 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: eight hours the last two sitting days because she attacked 103 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson's you know, there was a measure that Hanson 104 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: proposed targeting Fatima Payman, who was in fact an Afghan citizen. 105 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to be anything other than an Australian 106 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: citizen to sit in the Australian Parliament. As you know, 107 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: Payment was unable to renounce her Afghan citizen citizenship because 108 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: the Teleban's in power back back in Afghanistan where she born. 109 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: So she accused Hanson of being a racist. Thorpe has 110 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: thrown this stuff up in the air and storm out 111 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: of the chamber with a middle finger up and she 112 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: was banned for two days while she's talking around outside 113 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: the open doors of the Senate wearing a T shirt 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: I think with Palestinian slogans, howling and screaming. 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just nuts. 116 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm crazy, absolutely crazy. The reason as we had the 117 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Murray Party here, a minor party in our parliament. They 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: went crazy the other day in the House and so 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: they're still to deal with that. And I'm hoping they'll 120 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: get a band as well. Speaking of bands, this social 121 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: media thing, yes you passed it, and yes every headline 122 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: goes the first in the world, but literally, how's that 123 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: going to work? 124 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: But no one knows, Mike, no one has a clue. 125 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you talk to any you know, ten year old, 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: twelve year old. Oh, we'll get around this in thirty seconds. 127 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: And who's going to be held liable? Is it really 128 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 4: going to be Elon Musk and you know TikTok. 129 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: And all amos is going to get held libel Murray? 130 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like this is everything that's wrong 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: with politics. I mean, everyone agrees it's a problem, and 132 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: everyone agrees that would be nice of the social media 133 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: companies pull their finger out and behave themselves a bit better. 134 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: But the reason that's the world first is because everyone 135 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: else has looked at it already and there is no 136 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: answer to the problem. If there was, they would have 137 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: done it. 138 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: Indeed, So basically anyone under the age of sixteen in 139 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: Australia will be banned from social media sites, not messaging apps, no, 140 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: but the owners will be on companies to check the 141 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: age of users. Well, what's to stop a fourteen year 142 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: old saying I'm seventeen or twenty so long. 143 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: As when you go on the boose sites, you know 144 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: are you eighteen? 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: Yes? I am crazy? 146 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: A does it help? Am I being unfair? Tell me 147 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: if I'm being unfair? But when I see I look 148 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: at the poor bloker got found guilty for tasering the woman. 149 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who's either you know, you 150 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: know when you look at him and go oh yeah, 151 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I can see why that happened. 152 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: Well, the very much. 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: Divided opinion in New South Wales, it must be said, 154 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: I mean he's a thirty four year old police officer. 155 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: He Christian White. 156 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: He was found guilty this week of manslaughter, which carries 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: a twenty five year penalty in jail. And obviously Claire 158 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: Now and a ninety five year old great grandmother. She 159 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: was on a walking frame in her nursing home. She 160 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: armed with a knife. She'd been into the bedroom of 161 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: at least one other resident of the nursing home with 162 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: two knives, and they tried to talk her out and 163 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: then he said, oh, bugger it and zap. 164 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 3: To excuse my ignorance. 165 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Did they ever get in the trial to the bottom 166 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of it, because it's incomprehensible knife or not that you 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: can't see how old, how frail she is, and clearly 168 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: she's not well, and therefore the taser is not required. 169 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get it, you get it. 170 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: And there were two police officers there as well as 171 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: two paramedics. 172 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you're telling me that. 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: Four trained people can't disarm an old, ninety five year 174 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: old lady. 175 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: You didn't know whether the heck she was. I mean, 176 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: it was amazing, just dreadful. 177 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: Or have you done a Christmas shop? Is it Black 178 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 3: Friday in Australia today? 179 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: By the way, Oh god, I'm trying to avoid all 180 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: Black Friday nonsense. I'll go to the golf club, mic 181 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: I might get a you know, a dozen golf balls 182 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: for forty bucks and that will do me. 183 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: So what it costs in Australia. Tour balls forty bucks. 184 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you can get those on special. I 185 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: was at I was at a golf shop yesterday. 186 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Just walking around. 187 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: You know, a bit like women going to shoe shops. 188 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: I shouldn't geralize. 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: I love going to I love going to golf shops. 190 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: It's a bit like the ladies go shopping. 191 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: The it's just the top of one. I even needed 192 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: to buy twelve because I never lost the Murray. I 193 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: just bought one. 194 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: Oh. I listened to you all right. 195 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Down, and the thing is, I've still got. 196 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: It very good. 197 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: I keep doing well. 198 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: Big time. 199 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: Catch up next week. Murray Olds is for more from 200 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: the Mic Asking Breakfast. 201 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks. 202 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 203 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.