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Speaker 1: Depressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Andrew

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Speaker 1: Dickens on Hither Duper Cellen Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 1: to coverage like no one else news.

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Speaker 2: Talks it me.

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon to youre welcome to the program. No

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Speaker 3: longer a prince who's pulled the pin on a historic

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Speaker 3: demotion for Andrew Mountbatten Windsor will have coverage from all

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Speaker 3: around the world all through the show the way Tonguey

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Speaker 3: Tribunal decides MARII and New Zealand citizens, no matter where

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Speaker 3: they're born and raised, will have those details. After five,

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Speaker 3: the Dark Destroyer Sean Wallace is in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: What's he up to?

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Speaker 4: Why is he here?

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Speaker 3: He's here in studio five point fifteen today and Elliott

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Speaker 3: Smith from Chicago to preview the Irish match which is

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Speaker 3: coming up Sunday morning our time. All this add more

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Speaker 3: correspondence from right around the world. You can have your say,

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Speaker 3: you can text meek ninety two ninety two small charge

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Speaker 3: does apply. It is eight after four. Andrew Dickens, the

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Speaker 3: man formerly known as Prince Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, has been

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Speaker 3: stripped of the title. He's been evicted from his house

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Speaker 3: on the Windsor estate. He's been sent into exile to

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Speaker 3: the east of England and the Sandringham Estate. That's the

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Speaker 3: royal enclave owned privately by the family. They're hoping he's

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Speaker 3: out of sight and out of mind, and not soon enough.

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Speaker 3: Andrew grated. Andrew was the diletton prince. Andrew was the

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Speaker 3: man who felt the world owed him a living. Andrew

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Speaker 3: was the man who wanted the money but took shortcuts

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Speaker 3: to get it. Andrew and his former wife have parleyed

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Speaker 3: their family links in the worst way. His lies have

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Speaker 3: been shown up time and time again. He's had a

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Speaker 3: mentioning the Epstein stuff. The only question is why it

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Speaker 3: took so long. So the queen couldn't do it because

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Speaker 3: Andrew was her son. But you know, brothers can hack

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Speaker 3: the sort of stuff, brothers can play hard. But I

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Speaker 3: have a theory that in fact William told his dad

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Speaker 3: has had to live with his father's treatment of his mother,

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Speaker 3: dragged through the public for his whole life, William has

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Speaker 3: had to live with his uncle's embarrassments. But the uncertainty

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Speaker 3: is William will be king And in his recent interview

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Speaker 3: William can ascend to the throne and start a new

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Speaker 3: chapter free of the baggage of the past. So where's

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Speaker 3: Heather heads that oasis in the march spit with her

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Speaker 3: concert club, so she'll be back on Monday. Now here

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Speaker 3: is a question I never thought i'd ever have to

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Speaker 3: can they're giving your cat ozempic if your cat is

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Speaker 3: a fat cat. Pet insurance companies are warning that pet

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Speaker 3: obesity is skyrocketing, and now a San Francisco animal medicine

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Speaker 3: company says ozempic like drugs can work just as well

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Speaker 3: on cats as they do on humans. So doctor Kath

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Speaker 3: it's now Hella.

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Speaker 5: Cat, Hi, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: So if you had a fat cat, would you give

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Speaker 3: it a zimpic?

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Speaker 6: Or they wouldn't be my first choice. And there's a

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Speaker 6: likely to be really expensive, but hey, it's probably.

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Speaker 3: Coming Okay, Well, they call GLP one drugs. They work

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Speaker 3: mainly as an appetite suppressant. If we, as cat owners

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, that should always be the first choice. And you know,

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Speaker 7: So like that.

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Speaker 6: It's not an option right now, but in the future

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Speaker 3: Yeah, catch it so tricky. You know, you may feed

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Speaker 6: I don't have an actual figure for you, but it's

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Speaker 6: We are loving them to be basically, and we are

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Speaker 3: So if you've got a fat cat. So, if you've

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Speaker 6: Well, the first thing is be really aware of how

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Speaker 6: feeding them. But when you get that, you know when

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Speaker 6: they're bugging you to feed them or what you think

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Speaker 6: is bugging you to feed them. Try playing with them

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Speaker 3: What about what I just said as well, Because the

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Speaker 6: One would be, you know, seriously, consider containing your cat.

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Speaker 6: There's a bunch of reasons that that's good for them.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be keeping them locked up inside,

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Speaker 3: I have a home elsewhere good, pretty good at telling

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Speaker 3: it is fourteen minutes after after four and Mary says, hello, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm not feeding you, mate, No, you get away, you moocher.

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Speaker 3: Mary says, I love a fat can. Taylor says I

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Speaker 3: have never had a fat pet. Dogs, walk them, cats,

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Speaker 3: feed them properly. And Taylor, on the topic of Ozmpics, says, mate,

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Speaker 3: oh hell no, feed that fat bastard less. It's pretty simple, really,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it has an escape. You'll notice that we've

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Speaker 3: got a big old rugby match happening this Sunday and

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine is here in just a few moments time

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Speaker 3: to talk about the hype which is happening in Shytown.

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Speaker 3: It seventeen after four, Let's talk sport. Jason Pine, good,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon to you. Excuse me, no that I don't

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Speaker 3: even know what day is, what part of the day. Well,

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Speaker 3: you're doing A call on Auckland f C Adelaide.

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Speaker 10: Yes, tomorrow afternoon five o'clock, so in about twenty five

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Speaker 10: hours from now, be a sconsted go Media looking forward

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Speaker 10: to it. Actually, Adelaide and Auckland FC last year a

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Speaker 10: let's hope for as many goals tomorrow and.

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Speaker 3: Then on Sunday morning we're all up early. We're not

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Speaker 3: too early. Actually, its actually a quite a nice time

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Speaker 3: actually on a Sunday morning to watch the Allbanks versus Ireland.

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Speaker 3: The team in Chicago twenty sixteen beat us today was

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Speaker 3: naming day. Any surprises, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 10: I think the players who have come back into the

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Speaker 10: were largely predictable. Boaden Barrett coming back in at first five,

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Speaker 3: There may have been a.

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Speaker 10: Case for to Mighty Williams to keep his spot on

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Speaker 10: to Mighty Williams, as we know, can add real impact

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Speaker 10: fairly predictable side Ireland. Yes, you say twenty sixteen soldier Field,

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Speaker 10: Andy Farrell.

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Speaker 3: Andy Farrell wasn't involved with him because he was seconded

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Speaker 3: to the Lions, you know, so Andy hasn't been with

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I wonder whether that rustiness is a thing

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Speaker 10: or because you often say, don't JK, are they underdone

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Speaker 10: rusty as you say, or are they fresh coming in. Hey,

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Speaker 10: we haven't any Rugby. We're chomping at the bit we

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Speaker 4: I think it might be the former Andrew.

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Speaker 10: I guess we'll find out on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Liam Lawson is going to have a gig next year.

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Speaker 3: And here is something that's possibly in his favor, because

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Speaker 3: American media reckons that Yuki Sonoda is set to join

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Dale Coin Racing is the male that's been floating

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Speaker 10: around today. His links to Honda Sonoda. Of course, that

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Speaker 10: backed by Honda. Even if he wasn't going Andrew, I

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Speaker 10: kind of get the feeling that his was the head

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Speaker 10: I kind of think Haja is safe. We know for

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Speaker 10: Stappan is safe, and I think Liam will probably also

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Speaker 10: be okay, particularly if this news is true because it

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Speaker 10: was always five and to four. There's also the young Lindblad,

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Speaker 10: You know, five and to four didn't go. Four and

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Speaker 3: News talks 'b fortuny four The big story of the

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Speaker 3: If you're listening, last night, Barry Sofa had a scoop

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Speaker 3: Prince Andrew will no longer be Prince Andrew. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 9: Hello Andrew.

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Speaker 3: So it's the big story around the worlds. What's the

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Speaker 15: Well, I think it's it's for royalists over here. I

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Speaker 15: Now that the fact that he's still going to have

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Speaker 3: True, true, but that that salary and that accommodation is

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Speaker 15: You know, it seems like they try to bury this

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Speaker 15: at left field. It started just minutes before he met

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Speaker 15: with China's president and he posted on a social media

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Speaker 15: site that he had instructed the Department of War to

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Speaker 15: start testing our nuclear weapons on an equal basis. Vice

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Speaker 15: President ja d Vance got into this. He was asked

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Speaker 15: a few hours ago about what the President meant, and

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Speaker 15: he said, you know, I mean, he's going to repeat

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Speaker 15: what the President said, but basically said the media post

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Speaker 15: speaks for itself. The news outlets have been going over

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Speaker 15: to the White House trying to say, Okay, what exactly

447
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Speaker 15: does this mean? And the White House is only saying

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Speaker 15: that it was quote potentially the case that the President

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Speaker 15: was referring to testing that fits within the current norms,

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Speaker 15: because they said this, you know, you have to test

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Speaker 15: these things sometimes, you got to make sure they're functioning,

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Speaker 15: they're working properly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the only country that's been doing tests recently

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Speaker 3: is in North Korea. Everybody else are actually trusting their

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Speaker 3: models and trusting their systems, and trusting the research that

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Speaker 3: they've already done. Because the letting off of any nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 3: presumably underground because you know, in the year, would not

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Speaker 3: actually cut it any of that sort of thing. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't actually prove anything, and it would actually bring you

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Speaker 3: down to the level of North Korea.

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Speaker 15: Well it would, it would, And that's why I think

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Speaker 15: that that maybe, as we know, the President tends to

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Speaker 15: speak first sometimes and you know, think after he has spoken,

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Speaker 15: So maybe this was one of those occasions where he

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Speaker 15: just happened to be a little overeager and the White

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Speaker 15: House will kind of be backing off on some of

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Speaker 15: those comments, or at least trying to do some spin

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Speaker 15: control or spin damage control in the in the in

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Speaker 15: the coming days.

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Speaker 3: Now, Ie I used have been asked to suspend immigration

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Speaker 3: enforcement actions for Halloween.

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Speaker 15: Yes, which is already today for you guys, and it's

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Speaker 15: tomorrow for us, and he has requested that Homeland Security

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Speaker 15: and ICE officials kind of back off on this starting

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Speaker 15: tomorrow through Sunday. They want to allow children to participate

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Speaker 15: in Halloween activities safely. And we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 15: obviously Hispanics and Mexicans who have backed away from public

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Speaker 15: celebrations or meetings because of fear over these ice raids.

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Speaker 2: Over here.

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Speaker 15: There have been a number of days like the Day

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Speaker 15: of the Dead celebration that's coming up. That's a big

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Speaker 15: holiday in that country and celebrated quite a bit over

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Speaker 15: here in the US, that are being modified because of

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Speaker 15: concerns about these raids. And Chicago's been a big battleground,

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Speaker 15: and it's been a big part of a debate over

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Speaker 15: immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 3: And Dan and I thank you so much, Dan Mitchison

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Speaker 3: out of the United States of America. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: I stood a raid in your neighborhood, would you actually

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Speaker 3: sit there going? Boy, this Halloween is looking just a

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Speaker 3: bit too real. This trickle treating has gone a little

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Speaker 3: bit too far. They're doing it with guns and mars

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Speaker 3: and knives. And it's coming up sixteen to five. Halloween.

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Speaker 3: By the way, longtime tradition in the States. In Canada,

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Speaker 3: it's Tonight celebrations spread to many countries over the years,

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Speaker 3: coming here, hasn't it. Celts believe the ghosts of the

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Speaker 3: dead roam the earth on this day, so people will

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Speaker 3: dress in costumes and leave treats at their front doors

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Speaker 3: to appease them so they don't actually break in stuff.

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Speaker 3: Poll out today shows that eighty percent of New Zealanders

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Speaker 3: do not support Halloween. And I would argue that's possibly

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Speaker 3: because they don't have kids, and they don't want to

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Speaker 3: have their doors knocked upon, and they don't have any

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Speaker 3: treats to give them anyway, it's a house invasion. You

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Speaker 3: could almost say that, there we go. It's sixteen to five.

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Speaker 3: It's news talks. He had been buried Soper with the

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Speaker 3: latest on the Bailey case, the Bailey revelations, exclusive to

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Speaker 3: this show yesterday, and also his thoughts on Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty?

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Speaker 3: So bad, good Andrew, how are you very well? Head

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Speaker 3: is not here because she's gone to Melbourne to see

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Speaker 3: Oasis with the Concert Club. And I'm surprised that you

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Speaker 3: didn't go as well, because, as I said, when you

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Speaker 3: walked and I could see you in a mosh pit

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Speaker 3: wearing wearing the hat, doing the jump.

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Speaker 16: But someone has to look after the kids.

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Speaker 3: So the big story, of course is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.

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Speaker 3: And this affects us because of our constitution. Obviously we

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Speaker 3: have to we'll have to react to this properly. Well

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Speaker 3: we do, because at the.

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Speaker 16: Moment Andrew Windsor is eighth in line to the throne.

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Speaker 16: Now it's beyond the King, King Charles, to make that change.

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Speaker 16: And the change I think is inevitable that he will

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Speaker 16: be because he's not obviously not seen to be fit

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Speaker 16: to be a royal, so he obviously could never be

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Speaker 16: a monarch, even if he is eighth in line to it.

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Speaker 16: So there is legislation that we have to enact to

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Speaker 16: bring that about, and that not only in New Zealand,

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Speaker 16: it's in England and all those countries who belong to

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Speaker 16: the Commonwealth realm. They've got to move the same act,

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Speaker 16: and I think everybody will.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the.

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Speaker 16: Audacity of this man, I think has been incredible. And

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Speaker 16: somebody said to me today there's a book come out.

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Speaker 16: I think it's called entitled, and they've suggested that I

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Speaker 16: read it because it is about Sarah Ferguson and Andrew,

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Speaker 16: and they said it's unbelievable reading about entitlement.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course, I started my program by saying that

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Speaker 3: before the Epstein stuff, he was already getting up our

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Speaker 3: noses because he believed that he should get money. He

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Speaker 3: was parlaying their family name all over the place for

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Speaker 3: almost no influence whatsoever, but he believed that he was

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Speaker 3: worth it. I mean, the arrogance of the man is astounding.

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Speaker 16: Yes, you know, it's an ignoman is ignominious way to

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Speaker 16: end something like this in somebody's life. But honestly, I

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Speaker 16: think I don't think there will be any regret when

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Speaker 16: it comes to the Queen though, will be turning in

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Speaker 16: her grave because he was her favorite son.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is probably why she couldn't do it. But

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Speaker 3: of course Charles can do it because you know how

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Speaker 3: brothers are, and I reckon that. William actually said, look Dad,

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Speaker 3: look when I take over, I want a clean sheet,

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Speaker 3: I want a fresh start.

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Speaker 16: Well, apparently William is planning to remove not royal titles,

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Speaker 16: but a money paid to anyone that is not a

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Speaker 16: working royal, so you know he's going to make changes

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Speaker 16: as well. But the sounds of things.

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Speaker 3: Look, it was very moving radio for me yesterday listening

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Speaker 3: to head the show with you and of course the

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Speaker 3: scoop you had Andrew Bailey. It turns out there was

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Speaker 3: no complaint and the investigation was only partly fulfilled, and

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Speaker 3: he felt that it was bad and so he resigned.

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Speaker 3: And of course that he had the whole issue of

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister not being able to answer if he

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Speaker 3: could sack him. And I felt very very sad for Andrew.

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Speaker 3: Those sorts of things ruin a name. You said a

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Speaker 3: very smart things to me this afternoon that you know,

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Speaker 3: the first thing if you google Andrew Bailey, the first

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Speaker 3: thing will come up is an accusation that was never made.

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Speaker 16: He had resigned under a cloud. Well, in fact, the

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Speaker 16: only cloud was misrepresentation that he was told that three

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Speaker 16: witnesses to his behavior and grabbing a young man's arm

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Speaker 16: above the elbow, and he says he grabbed it he

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Speaker 16: was jousting with him, saying we can do this, and

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Speaker 16: that was misconstrued, and a Department of Internal Affairs inquiry

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Speaker 16: hadn't even begun when he was told by the Prime

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Speaker 16: Minister's offers that in fact, he was very.

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Speaker 3: Bad kills He's very seriously, very serious, is very bad.

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Speaker 3: But what I like then is that you and Heather

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Speaker 3: both said, well, this actually explains that car wreck of

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Speaker 3: an interview that Mike Hoskin did with the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: where he couldn't answer a question in three minutes time

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Speaker 3: about whether he would have sacked and Bailey. So the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister was asked about this overnight. Yes, he was

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Speaker 3: about midnight last night.

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Speaker 16: He said then, quite plainly, yes he would have stacked

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Speaker 16: Andrew Bailey if he hadn't resigned for what. I'm not sure,

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Speaker 16: But Luxan then went on to say he had faith

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Speaker 16: in the Department of Internal Affairs.

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Speaker 17: I trust DIA and the bottom lineers that I had

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Speaker 17: information at the time and information today. I look at

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Speaker 17: it and I go, Yep, he made the right decision.

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Speaker 17: It was his choice to resign. There were concerns that

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Speaker 17: were raised with DIA. They would put to Andrew. He

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Speaker 17: made a decision to resign, and I accept for that resignation.

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Speaker 16: Well, I've got a letter in front of me from

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Speaker 16: the Department of Internal Affairs and it simply said that

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Speaker 16: number one, no formal complaints was or has been made

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Speaker 16: about mister Bailey's conduct. The DIA had not commenced or

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Speaker 16: concluded an investigation into the matter, and yet he was

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Speaker 16: being told something else. Now, that is a letter right

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Speaker 16: out of a letter from the DIA. In back of

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Speaker 16: my I think this man has been badly treated. He

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Speaker 16: doesn't blame the Prime Minister's department, and probably rightly so,

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Speaker 16: because they acted on what they had been told by

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Speaker 16: the d.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Prime Minister was just as miss missing Fort

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Speaker 3: as Andrew Baby was. Yest to go, got to go

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Speaker 3: a mess. Barrett, you're back, Barry will be back after

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Speaker 3: six revealing the entire week in politics. This is us

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Speaker 3: talk to you, but it is eight minutes to five.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast sence of satisfaction.

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Speaker 7: Oh very much so.

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Speaker 18: As you say, eight eight Peren, eight eight and a

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Speaker 18: half percent is a pretty good turnout from out from

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Speaker 18: a Shielders. That goes the thumbs up and endorsement that

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Speaker 18: we had another right direction.

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Speaker 19: The road shows that you did. Was it always eighty

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Speaker 19: eight percent or did you have to work hard?

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Speaker 3: Oh? No, we had to work hard.

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Speaker 18: I mean, if I go back to when the announcement

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Speaker 18: was first made, you know, there's a few questions out

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Speaker 18: there and should expect from from a farmer Shielder. They

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Speaker 18: had a lot invested in this company, and so you

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Speaker 18: know we need to fifty percent. But we came out

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Speaker 18: really clearly and seen. You know, fifty per cent is

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Speaker 18: not good enough for us when we were on a

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Speaker 18: decent mandate, which we got the conversation around whether we

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Speaker 18: should be in consumers been on our agenda for call

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Speaker 18: it twenty years, if Hocking, if I'm honest.

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Speaker 19: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: Via News Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be it's five minutes to five. Not everybody has

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Speaker 3: sympathy for Andrew Bailey, and I kind of understand that

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Speaker 3: he is a flinty character. Lez said that Andrew Bailey's

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Speaker 3: attitude was on full display at the previous event at

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Speaker 3: the winery that he got into some trouble with and

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Speaker 3: that's true enough. Another fellow, Glenn, has no sympathy for Bailey,

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Speaker 3: obviously took him on in an employment court scenario, because

641
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Speaker 3: remember Andrew Bailey was a very successful businessman and he

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Speaker 3: had many businesses, and yes, you end out in the

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Speaker 3: employment court and there are obviously people in those scenarios

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Speaker 3: who end out not liking you. Glenn really does not

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Speaker 3: like Andrew Bailey, who found him nasty and arrogant and

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Speaker 3: an idiot. But you know you were against him in

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Speaker 3: the first place. The point being though somebody made an accusation,

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Speaker 3: but then it was never made a complaint and then

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Speaker 3: that was misinformed too, misrepresented to Andrew and misrepresented to

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. So in this instance, on the on

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Speaker 3: the facts of this case, Andrew Bailey had a bad

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Speaker 3: run and it sits on your record forever because of

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Speaker 3: the Internet. And so we get another text who says

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Speaker 3: the Department of Internal Fairs people who misrepresent and should

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Speaker 3: be outed and fired. And I think I feel I

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Speaker 3: agree as well. The people who misrepresented it to the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister, the people who misrepresented it to Andrew Bailey,

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Speaker 3: and then the Prime Minister felt compelled to run through

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Speaker 3: to the very end. So the story will rumble on

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Speaker 3: for a little bit, saying with Andrew mount batt and Windsor,

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to a royal watcher Juliet reader

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Speaker 3: about why it happened, what else happened, and I'll put

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Speaker 3: it into some historical context for you. Plus a big

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Speaker 3: decision by the White Tangi Tribunal today which says that

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Speaker 3: if you've got some Mildi blood on you, and even

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Speaker 3: if you're living overseas and your two generations of living

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Speaker 3: overseas down you can get a New Zealand passport. So

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Speaker 3: what is the details of that and what are my

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Speaker 3: thoughts about that? All that's still to come next hour

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Speaker 3: here on Heather Drew P c Allen's Drive on news.

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Speaker 1: Storks FB, the only drive show you can try to

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Speaker 1: ask the questions, get the answers, find the facts and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Andrew Dickens on Hither duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: It be welcommend to this Friday, the seven after five.

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Speaker 3: It's all over for Andrew, who is no longer a prince.

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Speaker 3: He will instead be known only is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.

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Speaker 3: After King Charles stripped him of all his remaining titles.

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Speaker 3: Andrew will also be evicted from the Royal Lodge. He

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Speaker 3: will live in a small property on the Sandringham Estate.

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Speaker 3: The estate is personally funded by the King, so he's

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Speaker 3: not bludging on the taxpayers. Juliet Readan is a royal

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Speaker 3: commentary and joins us now from Sydney. Hello Juliet, Hello there,

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Speaker 3: So why do you think King Charles acted now?

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Speaker 20: Oh?

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Speaker 21: Look, I think we've been waiting for him to act

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Speaker 21: for a little while, but I think he had to.

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Speaker 21: I know that there was a lot going on behind

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Speaker 21: the scenes trying to work out exactly what he could

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Speaker 21: do legally and constitutionally. You know, normally to strip a

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Speaker 21: royal of their titles and honors involves an Act of Parliament,

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Speaker 21: So I think there's been a lot of work going

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Speaker 21: on behind the scenes. The King wanted to move as

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Speaker 21: swiftly and efficiently as possible. He didn't want to tie

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Speaker 21: up Parliament with time discussing this. He knew that he

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Speaker 21: needed to remove these titles and to remove Andrew from

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Speaker 21: royal lodge, and he was working out a way.

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Speaker 15: To do it.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think William had a hand in this,

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Speaker 3: because he will become king and he will want a

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Speaker 3: fresh start, and he wants the troubles of the last

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Speaker 3: generation behind him. Would he have been pushing his dead.

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Speaker 18: Look.

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Speaker 15: I think the.

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Speaker 21: Actual decision would be purely the king's, but he certainly

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Speaker 21: would have spoken to Prince William and also to his wife,

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Speaker 21: Queen Camilla, who does a great deal of work with

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Speaker 21: vulnerable women, so she would have been pushing hard to

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Speaker 21: not have Andrew attached to the royal family. Anymore and

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Speaker 21: to remove those privileges. But yes, certainly the wider royals

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Speaker 21: would have been involved as well, but it would have

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Speaker 21: been King the king's decision decision.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago Andrew relinquished his dukedom. Do

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Speaker 3: you think that bucking peals at the time thought that

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Speaker 3: might be enough.

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Speaker 21: I think that was an interim measure whilst they were

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Speaker 21: trying to work out what they could do in a

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Speaker 21: more permanent way. I think they thought it would be enough.

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Speaker 21: Clearly it wasn't It only enraged people more. Certainly the

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Speaker 21: media talked a lot about it, but the British public

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Speaker 21: were outrage two. And the idea that this would be

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Speaker 21: discussed in Parliament, which was where we were moving to.

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Speaker 21: I think certainly put wind beneath the wings of the

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Speaker 21: royal workers there.

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Speaker 3: And how mamnt a decision? Is this for the monarchy

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Speaker 3: people have seen? It's the biggest in the abdication of

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Speaker 3: King Edward. There was some under Henry the Eighth, the

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Speaker 3: Duke of Cumberland. I remember Becker after World War One.

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Speaker 3: But this is a big thing.

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Speaker 19: This is a huge thing.

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Speaker 21: Yes, I mean unprecedented is a word we use a

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Speaker 21: great deal but it really is unprecedented. As you pointed

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Speaker 21: out there, it's not since nineteen seventeen when Parliament brought

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Speaker 21: in the Titles Deprivation Act to authorize enemies of the

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Speaker 21: UK during the First World War to be deprived of

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Speaker 21: their British peerages. That was the last time that was wartime,

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Speaker 21: and that was because various British royals had close relations

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Speaker 21: to Germany, of course, and some held German titles. This

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Speaker 21: is entirely different. This is removing a title from a

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Speaker 21: man who has behaved inappropriately for the royal family. Now

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Speaker 21: he still vigorously denies those accusations against him, but it

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Speaker 21: has been clear that there have been serious lapses of judgment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and the palas specifically expressed sympathy for victims of abuse.

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Speaker 3: So there's a sign of which way they're thinking. The

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Speaker 3: feeling is.

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Speaker 21: Running, yes, and I think in fairness it's the way

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Speaker 21: they are feeling as well. You know, we have been

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Speaker 21: waiting for the Palace to talk out about the victim

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Speaker 21: survivors and the victims. You know, Virginia's uphree remember took

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Speaker 21: her own life earlier this year. It's a deep tragedy

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Speaker 21: and the family have put out this very moving statement

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Speaker 21: about her declaring victory and that this ordinary America girl

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Speaker 21: has brought down a British prince. But the real tragedy

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Speaker 21: is taking her life. Under tragedy is that Jeffrey Epstein's

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Speaker 21: victims are still out there trying to have their stories

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Speaker 21: heard and trying to get the same sort of accountability

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Speaker 21: from other people who were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's world.

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Speaker 3: All right, Juliet reader Juliette wonderful and I thank you.

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Speaker 3: Juliet is a royal commentator and author of a book

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Speaker 3: called The Royals in Australia. It is twelve after five, hib.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: The White Tragging Tribune of the White Tonguey Tribunal has

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Speaker 3: said overseas born Malori children should get special citizenship rights.

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Speaker 3: So the current law only gives citizenship by descent to

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Speaker 3: one generation, which affects everybody who's going for this. However,

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Speaker 3: Judge Alanna Thomas has found this breaks the treaty. So

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Speaker 3: Susan Mary Downs is one of the lawyers who took

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Speaker 3: on the Crown and one season Welcome to the program, Kyoder,

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Speaker 3: so well walk me through this decision. The Tribunal has

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Speaker 3: now recommended that it be extended to two generations instead

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Speaker 3: of one for MARII Is that.

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Speaker 22: Right, Yes, that's one of several recommendations, and the purpose

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Speaker 22: of that recommendation is to remove the immediate barriers that

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Speaker 22: those who are in that position will experience should they

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Speaker 22: make an application under the Act.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so why should Mali get two generation rights when

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Speaker 3: others don't?

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Speaker 22: I think that the recommendation is for all people who

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Speaker 22: are impacted to get second generation descent, So that won't

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Speaker 22: just be for Mali, that will be for all people

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Speaker 22: who are impacted by the act.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and that would refer interesting and that is because,

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Speaker 3: of course the treaty is a partnership, so you know,

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Speaker 3: you're saying that what goes for one goes for the other.

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Speaker 22: And the way that the legislation is currently framed, it

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Speaker 22: doesn't provide for any recognition of Maori descent or citizenship,

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Speaker 22: any recognition of t tidity at all. So yeah, treats

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Speaker 22: all people the same currently, whether they apply from New

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Speaker 22: Zealand or from overseas.

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Speaker 3: You involve Keisha Castle Hughes in this case, is that right?

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Speaker 22: Yes, that's right. She is one of her finite is

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Speaker 22: one of the families who have been impacted by the legislation,

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Speaker 22: and she provided compelling evidence along with mister Ruddick, detailing

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Speaker 22: how she felt she was impacted and how it caused

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Speaker 22: several impacts in relation to Fucker Papa, as well as

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Speaker 22: practical things like trying to get her daughter into school

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Speaker 22: and into the health services.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, so she was born in Australia, but then she

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Speaker 3: spent a lot of time in New Zealand because now

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Speaker 3: she lives in America. Her daughter was born in America,

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Speaker 3: and she wants a New Zealand citizenship for her daughter,

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Speaker 3: who's never set foot in New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: No, that's not correct.

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Speaker 22: They've come back to New Zealand many, many times and

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Speaker 22: they're currently in New Zealand. But what was the issue

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Speaker 22: was that when they made application, and it took four

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Speaker 22: years to process the application, they couldn't be here for

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Speaker 22: any significant period of time and her daughter was class

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Speaker 22: as a tourist. That means that she couldn't even come

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Speaker 22: through the New Zealand citizenship line, and there were all

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Speaker 22: sorts of barriers to how they could remain in the country,

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Speaker 22: and she felt it was very unfair for her and

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Speaker 22: her family to be treated in that manner.

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Speaker 3: Now I understand this that many of our listeners and

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Speaker 3: David Seymour would object to what they could consider special

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Speaker 3: rights for Maori. Do you think Mary are getting special

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Speaker 3: rights over parking? How with this recommendation by the tribunal.

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Speaker 22: Like I said, there's several recommendations in the report.

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Speaker 15: That is just one of them.

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Speaker 22: And it's clear that Mary do have rights under the

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Speaker 22: cidity or White Tongey and it's Tagua ta fenua and

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Speaker 22: the report requires or recommends, sorry for it's non binding,

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Speaker 22: but it recommends to the government that they consider those

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Speaker 22: rights more fully and provides a pathway which is consistent

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Speaker 22: with the treaty principles for that to occur.

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Speaker 3: All right, Seasons, and I thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time today. That is season Mary Downs, the lawyer

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Speaker 3: who won it the White Tonguey Tribunal. The decision has

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Speaker 3: made and I will tell you more about that decision,

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Speaker 3: and you know the ability of the White Tonguey Tribbunal

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Speaker 3: to to make decisions and what that really means a

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Speaker 3: little bit later on in the program. It is sixteen

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Speaker 3: minutes after five. Now hold onto your hats. The chasers

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Speaker 3: in town. Just arrived yesterday. Edge Sean Wallace, the Dark Destroyer,

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Speaker 3: why is he here? And we'll talk a bit about

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Speaker 3: rugby as well, because he's a big nut. It's all

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Speaker 3: to come in just a few moments time right here

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Speaker 3: on New Stalks. Here, b News Talks Here, b Elliot

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Speaker 3: Smith is in Chicago, getting ready to call the game.

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Speaker 3: Here live on Newstalks. Here be the Allbacks versus Ireland.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of hype around this game. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to him just after the five thirty news, but right now.

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Speaker 3: If you love the chase, and we love the chase,

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Speaker 3: it's in a perfect time on the TV, just before

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Speaker 3: the news. We love the final chase. If you do

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Speaker 3: love the chase, you're in for a treat because one

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Speaker 3: of the show's biggest stars is on our shores. Sean Wallace,

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Speaker 3: who's known as the Dark Destroyer, is touring New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: He swapped his Chase's chair for the quiz Master's mike,

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Speaker 3: and he's hosting events around the country to help raise

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Speaker 3: money for Cure Kids. So Sean Wallace, the Dark Destroyer

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Speaker 3: joins me now, Hello, Sewan.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, and very good.

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Speaker 3: What's that Jersey?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 8: It's a jersey my favorite team with the World Club

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Speaker 8: champions Chelsea.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, if you're wearing a football jersey in the middle

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Speaker 3: of all black country.

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Speaker 8: I certainly am. But you and it is a black

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Speaker 8: Oh but you've.

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Speaker 3: Got an all black jersey. You've got one last time

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Speaker 3: I have, So you've got.

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Speaker 8: Mini, I've got loads of them. Chelsea are playing last night,

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Speaker 8: so you know victory and.

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Speaker 3: You're here to do quizzers, yes, but not as a

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Speaker 3: quiz person, but as the quiz master.

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Speaker 8: Well taking part in quizes to try and raise money

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Speaker 8: for a wonderful charity. So over the last six occasion

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Speaker 8: I've been to New Zealand, I've always basically used my

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Speaker 8: phone to chry and raise and shine a spotlight on

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Speaker 8: you know, charities who need to help, need to support.

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00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 8: So this year it's going to be Cure Kids, which

876
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 8: is fantastic.

877
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. Now on the quizzing, which we all we

878
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 3: know that seventy percent of your life is quizzing. Thirty

879
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: percent is a barrister. Yeah, still the story. But the

880
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: quizzing is how you've got international fame, you know, and

881
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: you have the worst win rate out of any chaser

882
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: seventy percent compared to end seventy nine percent. And my

883
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: question for you on this, yeah, do you throw them

884
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: on purpose?

885
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 23: No?

886
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 8: If I don't know the answer, I don't know the answer.

887
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 8: It's just a simple as that. I would never ever

888
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 8: throw a game. If I don't know the answer, I

889
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 8: don't know the answer. Conversely, on beat the Chasers, I've

890
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 8: got the highest percentage rate of ninety five percent.

891
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: And if the chase has always one who watch it,

892
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: who would watch it?

893
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 8: Nobody? Yeah, nobody?

894
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's good. Do you prefer Do you like

895
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: being a quiz master instead of being.

896
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 8: I like doing both. I can pick and choose when

897
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 8: I appear in courts nowadays, but more and more I'm

898
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 8: sort of gravitating towards it, you know, taking part in quizes,

899
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 8: hosting quizzes, using my fame in an altruistic way to

900
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 8: try and raise money for charities.

901
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: The questions for the New Zealand two are going to

902
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: be as hard as the UK show.

903
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 8: We'll wait and see, but I'm really looking forward to

904
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 8: hosting the twenty fifth anniversary of the New Zealand Quish

905
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 8: Championships in Eden Park. So that's fantastic.

906
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: New Zealand's having their own version of the Chasers.

907
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's really really good. So Paul Henry is going

908
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 8: to be the new host. I think it's really good

909
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 8: that they've got some professional chasers who are experienced in

910
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 8: doing the show in terms of the Superherder now, but

911
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 8: I would really and dearly like to see a New

912
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 8: Zealand Chaser. Yeah, because there's some very very good quizzers

913
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 8: over here and it would be really really good that

914
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 8: New Zealand build up their own sort of quizzing heroes.

915
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so eight Quizzers, Christ You, Jimmycago White it up

916
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: at Mountain Long and the week book a Coy. Tickets

917
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: to all the ins on sale right now from ticket Master.

918
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for your good work for the kids, yeah,

919
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: and for coming over here and having some fun.

920
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 8: Well I'm having some fun. But as I said to

921
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 8: you Andrew, for me, sometimes, what's the point in being

922
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 8: famous if you can't use your fame and an artistic

923
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 8: way to try and help others.

924
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: And all Beks versus Island. Who's going to win?

925
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 8: I hope you all blacks win, But I do remember

926
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 8: three years ago when in the same venue that Ireland

927
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 8: basically beat you all blacks and they became the number

928
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 8: one ranked team in the world and everybody was thinking

929
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 8: that Ireland we're going to then going to win the

930
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 8: World Cup.

931
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: It's a bit like Shaun Wallace being the taster, you

932
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: know if we win all the time.

933
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 8: Who had watched exactly, So it's going to be an

934
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 8: interesting game.

935
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: Very good stuff. So lovely to have you in here.

936
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: But of course you got that wrong because they last

937
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: won nine years ago in twenty sixteen, not three. So

938
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: have we got a buzzer? Can we buzzer? Can we buzzer?

939
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: Can we buzza shaw into stay? You go seeventy percent

940
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: win rape five twenty three news talks, it'd be the name.

941
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: You trust to get the answers you need.

942
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: It's Andrew dickens on hither Duplessy Island Drive with one

943
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else News talks, It'd

944
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: be all right.

945
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: It was five twenty six. So so this decision White

946
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: Tongue You Tribunal decided that refusing citizenship to overseas board

947
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: mild children of citizens not born in New Zealand breaches

948
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: rights afforded under the Treaty. Right this is bound to

949
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: get under the skin of many New Zealanders. I'll see

950
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: it as another race based right that is not afforded

951
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: to others with familiar links to New Zealand. But season

952
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 3: just said that maybe we could all get this under

953
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: the treaty, But based on what we think in our

954
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: reading of it, we're not sure that that is true.

955
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: And I can see the point about race based rights

956
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: angering people. Mildi rights under the treaty are afforded to

957
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: the Tongue to Fenawa, the people of the land, but

958
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: this would be a right extended to people whose feet

959
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: have never ever touched the land of New Zealand. This

960
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: is a decision that goes back to generations, afforded to

961
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: families who have chosen another life in another country. If

962
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: we can all get this right, there'll be a rush,

963
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: absolutely be a total rush. Everybody want to do this.

964
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: It's an overreach. If you want to be a citizen,

965
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: come and be a citizen. But claiming a passport when

966
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: your link is some tenuous historical link through your blood,

967
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: I think is going a bit far. Your parents made

968
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: a choice, so your family needs to live with it

969
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: like everybody else. Is this an example of judicial activism?

970
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: That Winston Peter's railed on about. No, it's not because

971
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: a tribunal is not judicial. They are established by legislation

972
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: to resolve disputes. They are informal. They can be chaired

973
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: by judges, yes, but lawyers or lay people. For goodness sake,

974
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: Sir Richard Prebble judges said Colma. Sir Richard Prebble was

975
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: on the White Tonguy Tribunal for a while. Yeah, the

976
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: Human Rights Review Tribunal and the White Tongy Tribunal. They're

977
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: not governed by the Court SAT. They are not judiciary

978
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: and they only have limited power. So here's the thing.

979
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: This latest decision is nothing more than a recommendation made

980
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: by an activist quasi judiciary and challengeable under law, which

981
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: will be decided by the real judiciary and ultimately held

982
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: to account by the laws of the land, which is

983
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: set by the highest court of all, which is our

984
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: democratically elected Parliament. So if any of this happens, I

985
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: will be surprised. Andrew dickens, We're off to Chicago next.

986
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: We'll find out what the weather's like.

987
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 14: Now.

988
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: I guess they're coming into winter. It might be getting cool.

989
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: But Elliot Smith is there. There's Naming Day today and

990
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: then of course the sports huddle and we'll look at

991
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: all the sports. This is News Talks here, b I'm

992
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: in for Heather. She's at Oasis. She's back on Monday.

993
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

994
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home it's Andrew Dickens on

995
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the

996
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: power of satellite Mobile US Talks.

997
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 23: That'd be.

998
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 9: Mister, How did you.

999
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 8: Welcome to the program?

1000
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Dickins, just here for one day only because

1001
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: Heather's gone to Melbourne to see Oasis. I can just

1002
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: see her jumping up and down in the moshpit with

1003
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: a bucket hat on can't you singing along? Supersonic Good Honor.

1004
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: She's got the little concert club and they go to

1005
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: concerts and they go to some pretty wild ones to

1006
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. It is twenty four to six now

1007
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: on this White tonguey Tribunal recommendation regarding the ability to

1008
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: get citizenship if your two generations down and living overseas.

1009
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: You may have heard my surprise when season Mary Downs

1010
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: suggested that this was a right that will be extended

1011
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: to all people under the treaty, so that would mean

1012
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 3: all people under the treaty, and certainly from British stock. Myself,

1013
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: my family could take advantage of that. My boys have

1014
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: a UK passport even though they were not born there,

1015
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: but there are only one generation down. If their children

1016
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: could also get a UK passport, that would not happen.

1017
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: But this is what has been offered to Mardi, so

1018
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: we were surprised when she suggested that that would be

1019
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: would apply to all, so we wouldn't have the look.

1020
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: The tribunal made three recommendations for the Crown to action immediately.

1021
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: A men section eight two E of the Citizenship Act

1022
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven to food or terrao Maori provide mister

1023
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: Ruddick with citizenship by grant if he wants it, because

1024
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: he was one of the complainants. And the other explicit

1025
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: recommendation was to extend citizenship by descent to two generations

1026
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 3: for Mari, not for all New Zealanders, specifically for Mari.

1027
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: No more, no less. So why season Mary Down said

1028
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: that I don't know, But once again I come back

1029
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: to the salient fact. This is a recommendation only and

1030
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: it will still be up to the Parliament to actually decide,

1031
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: and if it is decided, it can be challenged in

1032
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: the legally under the eyes of the judiciary. This is

1033
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: a decision by quasi judiciary. So it's a developing story.

1034
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: It's twenty two to six. All right, big game this weekend.

1035
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: The All Backs are aiming high in their Northern tour.

1036
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: The first game is against Ireland in Chicago Sunday morning

1037
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: our time. What's nine o'clock is the kick off?

1038
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 21: Is it not?

1039
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: And nine am because a number of people are texting

1040
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: when then of course then they're off to the UK.

1041
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: They'll play England, Scotland and Wales. Now, Mike Hosking and

1042
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: starting prop Ethan de Groot. We're talking this morning and

1043
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: both we're bringing with confidence for this tour and a

1044
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: Grand Slam.

1045
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 19: I've got you four out of four. I see four wins.

1046
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 19: If you're going to lose one, you'll lose this weekend.

1047
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 19: But let's say four out of four?

1048
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

1049
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 7: Well that's that's all we're going four sir. I don't

1050
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 7: think you're wrong.

1051
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 18: Man.

1052
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: A man in Chicago is Elliot Smith. You'll be doing

1053
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: the call nine am. Gold Sport and news talks areb

1054
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: and joins us.

1055
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: Now, Hello Elliott, Hello Andrew. Good to catch up from

1056
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: the Windy City.

1057
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it Wendy.

1058
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: It has been Wendy. Not too much at the moment.

1059
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 24: It's a chili late thusday evening, not too bad at

1060
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 24: the moment, and conditions expected to be fine for Saturday's game,

1061
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 24: which I guess is the most important thing.

1062
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: They're all talking Grand slams. That's what Ethan de Groot

1063
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: said this morning they're going to do. Is that premature

1064
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 3: to be talking so confidently perhaps of four victories?

1065
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 4: Possibly?

1066
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 24: But I like the confidence from Eat and Dgrud, and

1067
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 24: I like the way that they're talking about it, that

1068
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 24: this is on the line and if they fail on

1069
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 24: Saturday local time, then the Grand Slam is gone at

1070
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 24: the first turtle. So I kind of like and admire

1071
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 24: the way that they've put it out there and gone,

1072
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 24: this is what we want. This is the target they're

1073
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 24: we're aiming for over the next four weeks across these

1074
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 24: four test matches and the USA and the UK, and

1075
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 24: we want it. And yeah, maybe a little bit premature,

1076
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 24: but they put that target out there, and given the

1077
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 24: results they've had a little bit up and down this

1078
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 24: season to put a bounty on winning a Grand Slam.

1079
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 24: I don't think it's the worst thing to galvanize the

1080
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 24: team necessarily.

1081
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: Now Team naming day today, any surprises.

1082
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 4: Not really no, I think fairly straightforward.

1083
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 24: The injured players that missed out in Perth come back

1084
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 24: in degrewed as you mentioned back in the side at

1085
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 24: Lucid prop incomes Bowden barred and Caleb Clark as well.

1086
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 24: And the surprise picks that were surprises in Perth three

1087
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 24: or four weeks back retain their spots and talking Peter

1088
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 24: larkhe at number eight in Quinte Pyre at center, so

1089
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 24: they retain their jersays and otherwise a silly straightforward team

1090
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 24: from Scott Robertson. There'll be some changes over the course

1091
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 24: of this tour, but given they haven't played for three weeks,

1092
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 24: he's rolled out the same team at one in person

1093
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 24: hopes they'll do again in the same on Saturday local times.

1094
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: And Ireland hasn't played together no summer tour for them

1095
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: because of the Lions, so they haven't played in a

1096
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: long time. They've been forced to actually play each other

1097
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: to get a little bit more match fit. They'll be underdone.

1098
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 24: They will be underdone, and it's for the All Blacks

1099
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 24: attack advantage of that fact. I think the thing is

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00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 24: with the Irish, they've got a lot of combinations. Seven

1101
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 24: of the eight four back play at leinster the starting side,

1102
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 24: so there's a lot of inherent combinations therefore, and in

1103
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 24: eight combinations. Therefore, the Irish, as it stands that you're right,

1104
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 24: they haven't played together for quite some time. They've been

1105
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 24: on Lions duty, they've been around the place and haven't

1106
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 24: had time in camp together. They came over very early,

1107
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 24: about a week earlier than the All Blacks, roughly or

1108
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 24: maybe five or six days, so they've had a lot

1109
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 24: of time in camp. Just try and get those combinations

1110
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 24: back to ye that. The other thing, of course, is

1111
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 24: Andy Farrell comes back in after his stints Lions coach,

1112
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 24: a successful one at that, But he didn't coach the

1113
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 24: Six Nations earlier this year because he was seconded to

1114
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 24: the Lions and stood took a back to the step

1115
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 24: from the Lions series to do that. So he hasn't

1116
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 24: coached this team since last year's End of Your Tours.

1117
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 24: It's been a while since he's had his hands on

1118
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 24: this team. So they are coming a little bit cold

1119
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 24: the Irish, whereas the All Blacks are, you know, midway

1120
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 24: through their season or towards the pointing end of their season.

1121
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 24: It's on them to take advantage of what could be

1122
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 24: a cold Irish side in Chicago this weekend.

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00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 3: Now, the ind and out took so many media with

1124
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: them they could probably put together a team to go

1125
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: on the field, and they're trying to, you know, parlay

1126
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: the strength of the All Black brand into America. Is

1127
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: it working?

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00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 9: Oh?

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00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 24: Look, I think it is to an extend, he pointed

1130
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 24: a sold out game, and yes, Ireland are responsible for

1131
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 24: that to extend as well, because there's a large Chicago

1132
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 24: population that is Irish heritage and they're buying tickets and

1133
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 24: there's a lot of Irish people coming over from Ireland

1134
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 24: that are coming in for the game. I'm hearing that

1135
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 24: quite a few will be landing Friday local time ready

1136
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 24: for the game on Saturday. But I think you have

1137
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 24: to give the All Blacks and New Zealand radb me

1138
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 24: some credit. That sixty thousand seat stadium sold out wouldn't

1139
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 24: happen with Ireland playing the Wallabies. Wouldn't happen with Ireland

1140
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 24: playing England. Necessarily the All Blacks through have that pulling

1141
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 24: power and inspane. You know they're making, you know, incremental

1142
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 24: gains in the market.

1143
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Elliott I, thank you so much. I'm looking

1144
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: forward to your call. By the way, there's a little

1145
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: question that always popped up in my head. What are

1146
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: they playing on? Is it grass or astrotooth? Because it's

1147
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: an American football field, it's grass. It's one of the

1148
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: few grass stadiums left in America. It's going to be

1149
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: a Grade seventeen to.

1150
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Six Friday sports tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

1151
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: Find your one of a.

1152
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 5: Kind all right, I'm just having to come away to

1153
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 5: there's a left hand side if my masses numbers Bryan, Oh,

1154
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 5: that's great.

1155
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 4: Straight Thummy's not down.

1156
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 24: It is a dry that's a.

1157
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: Try to the Hira Cols.

1158
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 20: It's like I say, try TJ Paranara, lovely ball, Dain't Coles.

1159
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 20: All Blacks needed that they needed a band. Check it out,

1160
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 20: Studs this jav Hayeslam Ireland has meted the All Blacks.

1161
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 20: The culmination of a historic twak in Chicago.

1162
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: There's memories of the game back in twenty sixteen when

1163
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: Ireland beat the Hoodoo after one hundred and eleven years,

1164
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: they actually defeated the or Backs.

1165
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 8: She I remember that night.

1166
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: I remember that game. It hurts, but boy it was

1167
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: so good for the Irish side. So we've got it

1168
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: now and it's time for the sports huddle. And on

1169
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: the huddle today we have our sports director Clay Wilson

1170
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: and former News Talks here b sports reporter and now

1171
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: doing such a good job for one News. Cap Wells

1172
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: joins us. Hello people, Hello, all right, start with you, Clay.

1173
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: All this talk about a Grand Slam? Is this a

1174
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: good thing or a trap?

1175
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Wow?

1176
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 7: I guess it depends only matters how the All Blacks

1177
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 7: view it, doesn't it? And you know, four pretty challenging games,

1178
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 7: and all in the current climate, losable and winnable games

1179
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 7: for the All Blacks. You know, I would say, you know,

1180
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 7: trying to expect them to win all four? Perhaps, I

1181
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 7: don't know. Maybe is it realistic? Is it possible?

1182
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 15: Yes?

1183
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 7: Is it realistic? I don't know. I think maybe three

1184
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 7: out of four might be a pretty good But if it,

1185
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: given where this team's at and given the opposition they're

1186
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: going to face, now will might they win all four? Yes,

1187
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 7: but you know it's it's a pretty pretty tall task,

1188
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 7: especially stopping in Chicago, then going to the UK and

1189
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: then having to back up those consecutive weeks. So I

1190
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 7: think three out of four would be a good effort,

1191
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 7: but you know, four out of four is possible if

1192
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 7: they can improve on some of the things. Well, I

1193
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 7: think they haven't quite nailed this this season.

1194
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: I think Island's under down. I don't think they're going

1195
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: to get up there. But I would be more worried

1196
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: about England, wouldn't you U?

1197
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Kate?

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00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I think going back to what.

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00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 12: Has two shows that are four.

1200
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: Games is pretty difficult.

1201
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 8: I think if you look back.

1202
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 6: To previous matches, they have done very well on home.

1203
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 7: Turf and they'll a mess.

1204
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 13: England is it's the big obviously Ireland in Chicago that atmosphere,

1205
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 13: but I think England will be to beat it.

1206
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: O Kate, Kate, I hate to say this, but your

1207
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: phone is actually playing up on us, so we'll phone

1208
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: you back, get a bit of line. We'll come back

1209
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: after the break with Clay and Kate. Can't wait to

1210
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: hear from Kate about the netball. I thought that last

1211
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: game against Australia was just such a cracker and so exciting,

1212
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: and the New Zealand side was a next step up.

1213
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: So what does that actually mean. That's still to come

1214
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: with the sports huddle right here on News Talks AB.

1215
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Hitdle with New Zealand South of East

1216
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: International Real Team the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate.

1217
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: With Crave Wilson and Kay Wells and Kate. I love

1218
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: that last netball game. The last two netball games the

1219
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: New Zealand side were next level. Is it heresy to

1220
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: suggest that the interim coaching panel are as good or

1221
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: even possibly better than Nolin.

1222
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 13: I don't think it's fair to say that. I think

1223
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 13: they've had the Tiny Jamison Series and the Constellation Cup

1224
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 13: with this group, so that's seven tests. I think they've

1225
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 13: got better each game, but it's taken them until the

1226
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 13: home tests in New Zealand to really get.

1227
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 22: Some good momentum under their belt.

1228
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 13: But also coming back to New Zealand, that's where the

1229
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 13: Silver Ferns played this so I think home court advantage

1230
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 13: plays a big role in that. So I think the

1231
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 13: key will be this Northern tour coming up in the

1232
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 13: coming weeks.

1233
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: And that's fascinating, Clay, because the interim team keep in charge,

1234
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: but no Lean is back, but he's not being sent

1235
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: to the UK to watch and to look for preparations

1236
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: for the Commonwealth Games. So that's a strange situation, don't

1237
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: you think.

1238
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's a little thing, Andrew. They say

1239
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 7: she's back, but I think for a lot of people,

1240
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 7: probably until they see you standing on the sideline, you know,

1241
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 7: as head coach of the Silver Fans again, you know,

1242
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 7: will probably just be biding their time on that one

1243
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 7: because the saga is just dragged on and on, and

1244
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 7: you know, there's been a lot of back and forth

1245
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 7: between these two parties, and you know, while not the

1246
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 7: Nolean has been reinstated, one feels that there's a little

1247
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 7: bit more water to flow under the bridge in terms

1248
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 7: of this one. Given how much time to play out,

1249
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 7: we're not getting a lot of detail about what they're

1250
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 7: going to talk about, what they're going to change. It

1251
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 7: seems like they're still perhaps working that out in the background.

1252
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 7: So you know, this team is still going to go

1253
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 7: away with the kind of spectre of the situation hanging

1254
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 7: over them to some degree. While they can take a

1255
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 7: lot from those these last two kits, and I think

1256
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 7: a lot of they surprise a lot of people by

1257
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 7: how much they how well they rebounded in the home

1258
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 7: home games. You know, until we see Dame Nolen on

1259
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 7: the sideline again. It's a lot of fans, a lot

1260
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 7: of followers of the sport in this country. You know,

1261
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 7: people are going to be holding their breath a bit

1262
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 7: about how the situation is actually going to eat and.

1263
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: Considering we have so much uncertainty about the Nolinetel situation

1264
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: and that's all on the head of Netball New Zealand

1265
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: and the way they're running this. There's a lot of

1266
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: people who have been saying that heads need to roll

1267
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: at Netball New Zealand, but they haven't as yet, should

1268
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 3: they No, Well.

1269
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 13: That's the public have been very public, have been public

1270
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 13: about what they think with the board and Neeble New Zealand.

1271
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 13: They certainly think that they've done the right thing. But

1272
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 13: I think you can't deny that they're handling of this

1273
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 13: in the start by standing her down immediately and then

1274
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 13: to come out seven weeks later and saying she actually

1275
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 13: did nothing wrong. I find that quite fishy. So I

1276
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 13: don't think that was the right way to go about it.

1277
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 13: Jenny Wiley says she's not going anywhere, but I guess

1278
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 13: in the coming months will be pretty telling if there

1279
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 13: is movement, because they'll have a big review at the

1280
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 13: end of the year, which I hope they review.

1281
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 9: They go through that review extensively.

1282
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah cool. Now, I'll tell you so that it made

1283
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: me very happy with the performance of the black Caps

1284
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: against England in the fifty over game the ODI series.

1285
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just been brilliant. And the thing that

1286
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: actually cut me up emotionally was Blair Tickner appearing again

1287
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: for the black Caps after a two year break after

1288
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 3: his wife has been battling cancer and it was just

1289
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: so emotional. Clay, do you think though, he did enough

1290
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: because he was called in as a ring and do

1291
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: you think he did enough to actually be part of

1292
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: the squad ongoing?

1293
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, let's see, the black Caps obviously have

1294
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 7: these games against this game against England tomorrow, and then

1295
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 7: the West Indies are arriving for some white ball games

1296
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 7: and tests. So in terms of white ball involvement, which

1297
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 7: is where Blair Tickner is largely sort of sat with

1298
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 7: the black Caps, you know, there might be some possibility

1299
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 7: there I think, you know, there's obviously injuries are always initial.

1300
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 7: You know, we saw Kyle Jamison go down the other day.

1301
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 7: Matt Henry's gone down and that was actually what promoted

1302
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 7: Bleatictor into that so I the second ODI where he

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Speaker 7: performed so well. So I think it's a fast ball.

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Speaker 7: You're always kind of in the next And he's an

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Speaker 7: easy guy to like, isn't he And of course what

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Speaker 7: he's been through, you know, people are always going to

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Speaker 7: be rooting for someone like him, so let's kind of see.

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Speaker 7: But I think he's very much in the mix after

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Speaker 7: a performance like that against a team like England, who

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Speaker 7: especially at white ball and white ball cricket have been

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Speaker 7: a very good site for quite a long time. So

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Speaker 7: he only hasn't done himself any harm in terms of

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Speaker 7: his prospects going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really cool And Kate, do you miss Blair's mullet

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Speaker 3: and mustache and just that look.

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Speaker 13: I think the cricketers are very good at expressing themselves

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Speaker 13: and Matt Henry's been seen with a interesting looking stars.

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Speaker 13: I think a few of them have sported some looks

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Speaker 13: after that beage test. I'm not really I mean, you

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Speaker 13: can do what you like. With you here, I think,

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Speaker 13: but I think it definitely adds to the persona. But

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Speaker 13: it's also important. This afternoon, blared Tickner at training got

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Speaker 13: a whack to the shin in the nets and walked

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Speaker 13: off a little bit ginger. So whether we'll even see

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Speaker 13: him in the game tomorrow, I don't know, So it's

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Speaker 13: a wait and see.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, and I thank you both. Of course, the

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Speaker 3: black Caps playing England at the sky Stadium, so they're

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Speaker 3: using the oval as an oval for the first time

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Speaker 3: in a while, and that's good. And that is happening tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And this is News Talks it B and it's six

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Speaker 3: to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Too per Se allan Drive full show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Heart Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be a number of people who are actually pointing

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Speaker 3: out that Neple New Zealand sied Noeling Turner's reinstatement was

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Speaker 3: effective immediately and she's still sidelined. She's not going on

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Speaker 3: the Northern tour, and the text says something fishy about

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Speaker 3: that statement. More going on. I feel a lot of

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Speaker 3: people saying she should be there at least on the

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Speaker 3: Northern tour. So that's another ongoing and developing story.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 3: The other day north of Auckland the Maharangi River, a

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Speaker 3: pump station overflowed and dump some twelve hundred cubic meters

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Speaker 3: of sewage into the river, which then flowed out into

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Speaker 3: the ocean and water Kier's internal alert system failed, so

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Speaker 3: nobody discovered the fault until yesterday. So all this gunk

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Speaker 3: goes out into the ocean and went straight into a

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Speaker 3: Mattcana oyster operation. And now that operation has been told

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry you've been contaminated. You can't sell oysters for

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Speaker 3: a month, and in fact you may want to destroy

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Speaker 3: a lot of your beds. Now does that sound fair

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Speaker 3: to you? We're a stuff up by water Care has

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Speaker 3: actually curked out of business for a month. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to the chair of the Mahurangi Oyster Farmers

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Speaker 3: Association right after the news and later Barry Sofa on

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Speaker 3: the weekend politics, including the stuff up that was Labor's

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Speaker 3: capital gains takes.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight Love Business Hours with Andrew Diggins

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Speaker 1: and Mares for Insurance Investments and here we safer.

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Speaker 2: You're in good heads news talk sab.

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Speaker 3: Good evening to you. Welcome to the program I'm in

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Speaker 3: for Heather who's offered a rock gig in Melbourne someday

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Speaker 3: called Oasis. I don't know they'll ever turn out to

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Speaker 3: be any good, but there we go, and she will

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Speaker 3: be back on Monday. Now I've got a text, by

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Speaker 3: the way, I need to refer to this text, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: When are we going to hear no ling Todu's version

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Speaker 3: of the coaching debarker. Well, you lucky people, you have

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Speaker 3: chosen the right radio station because Mike Hosking announced this

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Speaker 3: morning that no ling Toda will be on the radio

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Speaker 3: with him on Monday morning. And that's going to be

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Speaker 3: fascinating just to see how much she can say, because

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Speaker 3: I believe she'll be bound by all the you know,

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Speaker 3: all the rules that come up in these employment cases.

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Speaker 3: So No ling Todua with Mike Hosking on Monday morning. Now,

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Speaker 3: oyster farmers north of Auckland are having to temporarily close

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Speaker 3: their farms and destroy thousands of oysters because of a

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Speaker 3: colossal stuff up by water Care. If I do say

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Speaker 3: so myself, A pump station overflowed earlier this week at

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Speaker 3: dub twelve hundred cubic meters of sewage into the Maharangi

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Speaker 3: River and watercre's internal alert system failed. Apparently there was

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Speaker 3: a power power problem, so the fault wasn't discovered until

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Speaker 3: eight a m. Yesterday. So all the skunk has been

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Speaker 3: flowing into the ocean and flowing into oyster beds, and

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Speaker 3: the NETTE done this tair of the Maharangi Oyster Farmers

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Speaker 3: Association and joins me.

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Speaker 2: Now, hello than that, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 4: How bad?

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Speaker 3: Was the spill?

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Speaker 12: Pretty bad when you equivalent it to like two hundred

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Speaker 12: thousand toilet flashes and one hundreds eirty concrete trucks.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's an image I didn't need to hear.

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Speaker 6: It.

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Speaker 12: Puts it in perspective for your listness, of course it does.

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Speaker 3: And how much actual damage was done to the oyster

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Speaker 3: farms or was the damage all just done to the

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Speaker 3: creatures in terms of the water that they have been poisoned?

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Speaker 12: Basically, the damage has been done to the oyster farmers

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Speaker 12: because we can't harvest for twenty eight days because of

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Speaker 12: the sawa to overflow and the farmers will have to

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Speaker 12: relocate their product to another harbor to filtrate out for

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Speaker 12: a twenty eight day period and the costs that's involved

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Speaker 12: in doing that is huge for the farmers because you

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Speaker 12: know when you harvest an oyster, you pick up the oyster,

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Speaker 12: your grade and you send it out to the shops.

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Speaker 12: This is where you have to pick up grade, take

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Speaker 12: it up normals or take it to another harbor, relocate

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Speaker 12: it for another twenty eight days and hopefully with extensive

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Speaker 12: testing through Ministry primary industries, we can harvest our product again.

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Speaker 3: So there's twenty eight days where you can't sell a noise,

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Speaker 3: so you can't make money. You don't have any cash flow.

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Speaker 3: Plus you've got expenses because you've got to up and

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Speaker 3: move them to another place. Who's paying for this or now?

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Speaker 3: The question is more, there is water Care compensating anyone.

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Speaker 12: We got a little bit of com compensation a few

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Speaker 12: months ago when they did one little spill, but basically

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Speaker 12: it didn't cover one week's worth of bills at all.

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Speaker 12: To take the truth, so nothing from water Care, nothing

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Speaker 12: from anyone, and all the farmers fine, very difficult to

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Speaker 12: even keep their heads above water at the moment. So

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Speaker 12: it's not an ideal situation when we've only probably had

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Speaker 12: a couple of months have been open. Next next week

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Speaker 12: we've got some amazing tides to be able to go

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Speaker 12: out and work our farms, and we can't do that now.

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Speaker 3: You know, in harvest you said there was another one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times does this sort of thing happened?

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Speaker 12: I think by recording we might be up to about

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Speaker 12: thirty eight or thirty nine times for the whole year.

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Speaker 3: Good lord, it's just so.

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Speaker 4: Wrong in every way.

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight or thirty nine times a mistake by water

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Speaker 3: Cares has infected an entire industry, thirty eight or thirty

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Speaker 3: nine times in a year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they changed their legislation in twenty twenty two from

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Speaker 12: two spills a year to two hundred, so they think

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Speaker 12: they can just keep on dumping thurge into the harbor

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 12: two hundred times throughout the year without any notification to

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Speaker 12: any of them, with the farmers about the change of

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Speaker 12: the legislation they've put in place.

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Speaker 3: So when I said, you know it was a stuff

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Speaker 3: up caused by a power cut or some power problem

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01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 3: because the alerts didn't go off. In fact, because they've

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: got rights under the legislation, under the regulations that they

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01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: operate on, it's actually a regular, a regular occurrence as

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: part of their process is polluting your product.

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Speaker 6: It sure is.

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Speaker 12: And the upgrade that they've donated Lucy Moore Parks only

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 12: like a couple of weeks old, and you would have

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Speaker 12: thought they might have had a backup system or a

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Speaker 12: generator that would pick up on our overflow. When we

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Speaker 12: got notified fired about the spill was three fourteen in

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Speaker 12: the afternoon. They were at the site at eight o'clock

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Speaker 12: in the morning and we didn't get notified notification until

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Speaker 12: three o'clock in the afternoon, and then Ministry of Primary

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Speaker 12: Industries notified us at three twenty five, putting implementing a

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Speaker 12: twenty eight day closure straight onto us.

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Speaker 3: Is there any legal route you could pursue to get

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Speaker 3: water care to make some sort of restitution to help

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Speaker 3: your belieged farmers.

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Speaker 12: That's something for the farmers to discuss. But we're hoping

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Speaker 12: that water queue will come to the party.

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Speaker 3: But it's just wrong. I mean, it's shocking, and many

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01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 3: people haven't heard this story and the text machines melting down.

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Speaker 3: It's just wrong because your industry is being ruined by

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01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: somebody else's practices and stuff up and they're getting away

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and when they send leads out to house owners

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Speaker 12: wanting to come and afect accept your septic tank and

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Speaker 12: making sure you're not over flying down into a stream,

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Speaker 12: or they to sue a farmer because the cow turns

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Speaker 12: the wrong way and faces the stream. They find them,

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Speaker 12: but they can just see what they want.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, look, my greatest sympathy to your farmers

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Speaker 3: and to you and thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 3: That is the Nette Done, who is chair of the

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Speaker 3: Mahurangi Oyster Farmers Association. The text are melting down. Okay,

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01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: that's b s says someone. What if you need to

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 3: fit this bill entirely? Absolutely? Another Texas says, imagine if

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Speaker 3: a dairy farmer did this, they would be crucified. That

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Speaker 3: is a disgrace. Water Care should remedy all the oyster farmers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Mike for your text. The thing that got

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Speaker 3: me is that this is part of their normal practice.

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Speaker 3: They flush it out, They flush it out into the

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Speaker 3: river and then it goes out into the harbor thirty

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Speaker 3: eight or thirty nine times in one year. And another

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Speaker 3: Textas says, oh yeah, so called clean green New Zealand

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Speaker 3: six fourteen. It's been a big week of politics and

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Speaker 3: its started with the year It started with the capital

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Speaker 3: gains tax and Barry Soapa has been watching the whole lot,

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Speaker 3: also the Baiy case and all sorts of things. So

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Speaker 3: Barry is here to review the week in politics and

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Speaker 3: that is next.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper see Allan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio and powered by News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zebby News Talk's eb seventeen after six YT's look back

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Speaker 3: at the Week in Politics at Barry Soopa Evening, Barry

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Speaker 3: Good Evening again Andrew So. It was a week where

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Speaker 3: we started talking about the capital gains tax because something

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Speaker 3: got leaked and it was all a bit rushed and

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01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: it was full of misinformation, mistruths, and it was all

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Speaker 3: over this.

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Speaker 16: Labors had not had a good time, has it in

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 16: the last few weeks in releasing policy. This one was

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Speaker 16: rushed and it showed signs of being rushed as well.

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Speaker 16: The notion that doing a capital gains tax of twenty

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Speaker 16: eight percent on family homes would pay for three free doctors'

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 16: visits for everyone in the country a year. Initially, that's

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Speaker 16: wrong because it wouldn't pay for it. That's one thing.

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Speaker 16: And the other thing is, you know, even the late

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Speaker 16: Sir Michael Cullen, who did the Taxation Working Group report.

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Speaker 16: He suggested that anyone who goes into an election promising

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Speaker 16: to implement a new tax is very unlikely to win

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Speaker 16: the ballot. And I think he's probably right on that.

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Speaker 16: So I don't know what got into Chris Zipkin's brain

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01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 16: other than a leak. Do you come out with this

1518
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 16: particular policy?

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: Two things about this ring fencing the income for a

1520
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: medicaid and three visits to a doctor? God knows we

1521
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 3: were going to find the doctors to actually staff all that,

1522
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: But in putting that in ring fencing the thing, it

1523
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: sounded that even labor were like, we're a bit embarrassed

1524
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: about this tax, and we think the only way you

1525
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: like it is if we spend it on doctors, and

1526
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: you like doctors. You know, it was an embarrassment.

1527
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 16: It was like it was like offering a bit of lolly. Yeah,

1528
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 16: but you know, I mean, good luck to the mo

1529
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 16: they think will win them the next election.

1530
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: But the other thing and being leaked who leaked it?

1531
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: They're not doing an investigation. And I there's two thoughts,

1532
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: either someone who was desperate to have some policy to

1533
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: talk about, or some super lefties who've realized that, in fact,

1534
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 3: the Labor under Hipkins right now is not committed to capital.

1535
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 16: Games and it's not the same old Labor party that

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 16: we had in the last government.

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Speaker 3: No, no, exactly right, Okay, Now, the move to expel

1538
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: Kappa Kingi from the Maori Party, now that kept on going.

1539
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 16: Well, you know, the Maori Party at the moment when

1540
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 16: they parliament resumes next week, it's going to be really

1541
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 16: interesting because Rollery white Tea has come back from China,

1542
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 16: the Kappa Haka tour that he did. There should have

1543
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 16: been in parliament, nevertheless, when his party was in such trouble,

1544
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 16: he should have been here. But nevertheless he's now back

1545
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 16: and they're saying they're going to suspend well, they moved

1546
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 16: a motion to suspend Cappakinghi, and you know they may

1547
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 16: have good grounds and that she overspent her budget and

1548
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 16: hired her son on a contract. But that's not to

1549
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 16: say that others aren't doing it as well. I mean,

1550
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 16: Rollery White Tea's wife was John Timmy Harri's daughter and

1551
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 16: in fact was the Press secretary of the party. Not

1552
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 16: only that MP Clark, who was named by the Time magazine.

1553
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 16: She went to New York just over the last few

1554
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 16: days is to collect her gong there for ripping up

1555
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 16: the bill, the treaty bill. She wasn't even meant to

1556
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 16: do that. It was meant to be White to Tea

1557
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 16: that was meant to do that, and somebody handed her

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 16: the bill, so she did it instead and become very

1559
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 16: famous as a result of it. But you know, Takuter Ferris,

1560
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 16: he's with Cappa Kinghi or any Copra. She's with Cappa

1561
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 16: Kinghi as well. So what's going to become of this party?

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 16: Hopefully we'll find out a bit more next week.

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: Well, the whole point about the Malory Party is actually

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01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 3: to do some things for the Maori people instead of

1565
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 3: actually all these sort of shows. And yeah, exactly right.

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01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: You do realize that Mary all about Farno, So that's

1567
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 3: why you get the Cup of King Jobs. So there

1568
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: we go. Chris Laxa met with Donald Trump, and I

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: thought it was really good actually, because if you only

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 3: get ten minutes, you're not going to change the tariffs.

1571
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 3: The only thing you can do is try and make

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: mister Trump like.

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Speaker 16: You or yes, indeed, and Trump likes everybody initially, and

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01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 16: then as other leaders have found out, he starts to

1575
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 16: dislike them, and it's all hands on deck to try

1576
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 16: and repair the damage. But look, we used to call

1577
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 16: them at the APEC meetings pull asides. This has now

1578
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 16: been sort of transformed into a meeting. I think a

1579
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 16: big success for New Zealand at the APEX was being

1580
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 16: invited by the Coreans to go to a smaller dinner

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 16: with Donald Trump. And you know, New Zealand to be

1582
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 16: on that list I think was pretty good. And you know,

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01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 16: a lot would have been discussed across the table. I

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 16: would imagine at that dinner, more more than would have

1585
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 16: been described in the speed dating do that.

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: Because I saw some of the footage. Trump's got a

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: microphone and he's just talking about himself the whole time.

1588
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 3: Was it a two way conversation or was it just

1589
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: Donald Trump land down the sermon?

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 16: Oh well, yes, you know it's amazing, isn't it. The

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 16: man who rules the world now is talking about testing

1592
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 16: nuclear weapons and oh my goodness.

1593
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: Now and Winston got his nose out of joint with

1594
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 3: Christopher lux again.

1595
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, well indeed, Well you see the thing is now

1596
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 16: Winston is starting his campaign. He's no longer the Deputy

1597
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 16: Prime Minister, so he can be a little more independent

1598
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 16: if you like. That's what he's asserting in this that

1599
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 16: Chris Luxen said that he had made a deal with

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 16: the South Southeast Asian countries in terms of trade. Winston

1601
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 16: simply puught a one word entry on Twitter above that

1602
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 16: saying we not you. We And in fact the thing

1603
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 16: is that Winston has been around a number of years

1604
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 16: as the Foreign Minister and has done quite a lot

1605
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 16: of work in the Southeast Asian countries. So he did

1606
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 16: obviously get a bit annoyed at it, but the post

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01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 16: was withdrawn and everything's back to normal.

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01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the hard yards are always done by the

1609
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 3: diplomats anyway, and not the politics.

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01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 4: That's right.

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: You know, they're there to make friends with Donald Trump.

1612
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: If you can, bury all the very best, Thank you,

1613
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: if you turn to you, to you, Andrew, it is

1614
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 3: six twenty three. What movie should you watch in Halloween?

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01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: We've got some suggestions.

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01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: Crunching the numbers has been getting the results.

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: It's Andrew Dickens Swidth of the Business Hour and mass

1618
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: for insurance Investments and here we say it.

1619
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: You're in good hands. News talks. The'd be yes.

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01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: It is six twenty six. Do I need to remind

1621
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 3: you that tonight and Problem's.

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01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: Mind is no business like show business.

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 3: He did them all, tom Yeah, all the kids turn

1624
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 3: the monster mass wanting a trick, wanting a treat. Only

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: eighty percent of people and the stuff Paul hate it,

1626
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: but there we go. Families love it. So if you

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 3: want to watch a movie, the Telegraph has actually come

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01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: up with the top fifty horror films of all time

1629
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: which are perfect to watch tonight or maybe tomorrow. So

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 3: let's run through it at Number three from nineteen seventy three,

1631
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 3: Don't Look Now, which is about a couple grieving their

1632
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: daughter's death and have an encounter with a psychic and

1633
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: Venice Donald Sutherland to the Christy s directed by Nicholas

1634
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. And number two ha Psycho from Hitchcock, by

1635
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: the way, that has the first ever depiction of a

1636
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: flushing toilet on screen, and you'll never want to have

1637
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: a shower again. Number three number one, they have to say,

1638
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 3: though it's a classic as well, The Exorcist from nineteen

1639
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 3: seventy three. If you want a modern movie, American Psycho

1640
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 3: is not pleasant in the right way, pans Labyrinth, the

1641
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 3: original Scream. Now hey, speaking about Scream Scream have actually

1642
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: released the first trailer for their seventh installment of film

1643
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 3: and they release it today because it's hall ollween. You

1644
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 3: want to hear a little bit of it.

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 9: Here we go, We're gonna do this together. You're gonna

1646
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 9: have to shoot him through the wall to the.

1647
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 23: Right of the door.

1648
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: Shot. Oh you.

1649
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 9: He dead. You need to make sure you sued him

1650
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 9: in the head.

1651
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you shoot him in the head. Good advice. The

1652
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: star of the first movie, Neave Campbell, she's back her characters.

1653
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 3: Sidney White must now hunt down in the Ghost Face

1654
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 3: with her own daughter, Courtney Coxes in it as well.

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01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: It's in theaters from February the twenty seventh next year.

1656
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: One final story, by the way, regarding film, Robert England,

1657
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: famous with playing Freddy Krueger in The Nightmare on Elm

1658
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 3: Street Films, is getting a star on the Hollywood Walk

1659
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: of Fame. And it's happening today because it's Halloween. For

1660
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: you the Living to Smash Woman too.

1661
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 15: When you get to my.

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 3: Door, tell them six thirty eight you dropped to Hong

1663
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: Kong and Peter Lewis Davin Gray out of the UK. Gee,

1664
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 3: what's happened in the UK today. This talksb whether.

1665
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: It's macro micro for just playing economics.

1666
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Andrew Dickens and

1667
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: MAS for insurance investments.

1668
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: And Huey Safer and you're in good hands us talk Sippy.

1669
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: Pocome back to the program. We're all still in shock

1670
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 3: with the interview we had at the top of the

1671
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: program with the Mahrangy oyster farmers. The oyster farmers there

1672
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 3: they get polluted by a spill into the Maharangi River.

1673
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: It's been polluted now thirty nine times in the last year.

1674
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 3: And apparently the water care have the approval to do

1675
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: this purging two hundred times in a year and so

1676
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 3: every time they do it, of course they affect the oysters.

1677
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: In this case, they can't do any business for a

1678
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: whole month with all the bills still going out in

1679
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: the cash flow not there at all. And how has

1680
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: this happened? Who was there first? Where the oyster farmers

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01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: there first? Or was the pump station there first? And

1682
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: apparently it's because of the rapid growth of walk With

1683
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 3: and that whole region of Mattakana and all that area

1684
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: there which has boomed. And now of course or the

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01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 3: wastewater that's also boomed, and the pump station that services

1686
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 3: that area was not big enough to cope with it,

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: which is why they didn't have to spill into the

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 3: marh Harangy River. Now, the thing I'd like to ask is,

1689
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 3: if you're going to improve an intensification of an area,

1690
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 3: you have to make sure that the infrastructure is able

1691
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: to cope. It's not able to cope and they won't

1692
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: have a new pump station for another couple of years,

1693
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: but that means the oyster farmers can't really farm there

1694
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 3: for the next couple of years if they're going to

1695
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: get this two hundred times so surely if they improve

1696
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: the intensification and couldn't afford a new pump station, then

1697
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: they should have said to the mah Harangi oyster farmers,

1698
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: it looks like your fields are not in the right place.

1699
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: You might want to permanently move, and they should have

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01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 3: been funded to move. But you know that demands foresight

1701
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:54,879
Speaker 3: and that's not something that's in large supply in our councils.

1702
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: Can you say it is twenty two to seven Andrew

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: Dickens all right, time to go to Asia. Peter Lewis

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: joins us Heller Peter. Good evening, Andrew, and you've been

1705
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: the center of attention because of Apic Asian and Donald

1706
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 3: Trump's visit.

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Speaker 7: If we have.

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Speaker 14: Indeed, Donald Trump's been here for almost a week, started

1709
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 14: off in Malaysia, then moved on to Japan and finally

1710
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 14: to the APEC summit in South Korea, where the climax

1711
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 14: of that was his meeting yesterday with President Jijin Ping.

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01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 14: The aim was really to try and dial back all

1713
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 14: the rhetoric and all the sanctions that China and America

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01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 14: have put on each other over the last few months

1715
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 14: in their trade war.

1716
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Partly succeeded in that.

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 14: There is a suspension of a year for a year

1718
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 14: now most of the recently imposed tariffs and fees that

1719
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 14: the two sides have put on each other. China's agreed

1720
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 14: to suspend for one year its export controls on where

1721
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 14: which have done a lot of damage to a US industry.

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01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 14: And also it's going to start buying again Chinese American

1723
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 14: soyer beans, which has been another big ask for America

1724
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 14: because they basically reduced their purchases of US soybeans to zero.

1725
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 14: They hadn't bought any at all in the latest growing season,

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01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 14: they've gone elsewhere to countries like Argentina, and that's left

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Speaker 14: American Midwest Soyerban farmers in a dire situation. The only

1728
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Speaker 14: thing is with all of this is that, first of all,

1729
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 14: it's just for one year. So if it even lasts,

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01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 14: if this deal even lasts for a year, because you

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01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 14: can see many ways in which things could flare up

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Speaker 14: again over that time, but it means that we're sort

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Speaker 14: of on tender hooks because every year this is all

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01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 14: going to be renegotiated. And you also have to question

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Speaker 14: at the end of it, what has America got out

1736
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Speaker 14: of this. All that's happened this week is that there's

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01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 14: been a dialing back of some of these sanctions to

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01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 14: where they were levels they were maybe in April. So

1739
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 14: for all this rhetoric, all this pain that's been imposed

1740
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 14: upon either side, we haven't really got anywhere. At the

1741
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 14: end of the day, America has made no great strides

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Speaker 14: in bringing manufacturing back to the US and getting China

1743
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 14: to change its economic model, so you have to question

1744
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 14: has it all been worth it? And China in the meantime,

1745
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 14: has shown it's played its cards very very cleverly, particularly

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01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 14: its dominance in global rare earths these days, and its

1747
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 14: ability to cause damage to US farmers. It's shown that

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01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 14: it can stand up to the US in a way

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01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 14: that no other country can, and can hit back just

1750
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 14: as hard at the US as the US sort of

1751
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 14: punches them. So really this has been a wake up

1752
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 14: call for Donald Trump because it's had to back down

1753
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 14: on quite a lot of things. China is showing that

1754
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 14: a serious rival.

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: He will never say that though. In fact, Donald Trump's

1756
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 3: comments after his meeting diseaseion ping and this truth, he

1757
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: called it amazing, which is his emo. Everything is amazing.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he met with Japan's new prime minister and

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01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 3: his feeling was the visit was amazing and it couldn't

1760
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: have gone better.

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Speaker 14: Yes, and in fact her he was talking with Japan's

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Speaker 14: Prime minister of a new golden era of US Japan

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Speaker 14: sort of relationships. The thing is, I think leaders around

1764
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 14: the world have worked out what they need to do

1765
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 14: to appease Donald Trump, and that is to give him

1766
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 14: some sort of high profile deal that he can use

1767
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 14: in a big photo opportunity and can taut back home

1768
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 14: amongst his MAGA base and his supporters there, which is

1769
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 14: exactly what he's doing at the moment. You know, he's

1770
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 14: got China to buy us sawyer beans. He's telling everyone, well,

1771
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 14: they were buying them in the first place until Trump

1772
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 14: put tariffs on them. But they worked out that, and

1773
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 14: in particular China, which has a lot of Trump cards,

1774
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 14: it's they've worked out that they don't really need to

1775
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 14: do anything very much. If you look at all these deals,

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01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 14: they haven't offered an awful lot in the way of

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 14: a change in the way in which the relationship works

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01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 14: or specific deals. All they've got to do is make

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01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 14: sure they don't give too much away and give Trump

1780
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 14: a high profile deal to sort of talk about.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 14: I suppose the one thing you could say that he

1783
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 14: has got out of Japan and South Korea are these

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Speaker 14: big investment deals. Japan's going to invest five hundred and

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Speaker 14: fifty billion dollars in the US. South Korea is going

1786
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Speaker 14: to invest three hundred and fifty billion dollars in the

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Speaker 14: US over the next ten years. These are significant numbers,

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Speaker 14: and you know, you can't underestimate the power of that

1789
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 14: because when governments invest, private businesses tend to follow, so

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01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 14: it could get more investments from other companies and corporations,

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01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 14: and these are significant numbers. But I suppose if you're

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01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 14: japan or if your self career, you take the view

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01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 14: that maybe you know, twenty billion dollars over the next

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01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 14: ten years or so is a small price to pay

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01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,879
Speaker 14: not to have these trade problems and these tariffs imposed

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Speaker 14: upon you.

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Speaker 3: And the power of China is in plane display. Their

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01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 3: industrial profits have jumped twenty two percent year on year.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's the biggest increase in the past two years.

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Speaker 14: Part of that is coming because Chinese companies under pressure

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Speaker 14: from the Chinese government to stop these destructive price wars

1802
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 14: that are going on. You're seeing that particularly in electric vehicles,

1803
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 14: where there's something like one hundred and fifty Chinese manufacturers

1804
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 14: of electric vehicles, way way too many that needs to

1805
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 14: be consolidated down to maybe just four or five. They're

1806
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 14: all competing with each other in this cutthroat competition to

1807
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 14: slash prices, selling products below the cost. Now Beijing has

1808
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 14: started to clamp down on that. It has a campaign

1809
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 14: which it calls anti involution, which means basically clamping down

1810
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 14: on these excessive price cuts and discounts that manufacturers are offering.

1811
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 14: So that's part of the reason why Chinese companies are

1812
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 14: doing so well. But another reason is they're discovering new markets.

1813
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 14: As it becomes more difficult to export their product to

1814
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 14: the US, they're simply replacing the US markets with other markets.

1815
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 14: New markets in the Middle East, in South America, and

1816
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 14: in particular among the Asian nations, many of whom are

1817
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 14: meeting with Presidents Ejinping right now. So in Southeast Asia

1818
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 14: like Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines, and so on. These are

1819
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Speaker 14: new markets for Chinese products and exports soaring to those

1820
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 14: countries even though they're plummeting to the US.

1821
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Speaker 3: Good South, Peter, I thank you for your time. It

1822
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 3: is fifteen to seven text through on ninety two to

1823
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 3: ninety two saying yes. But Trump is still very popular

1824
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 3: in his own country.

1825
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 7: But is he?

1826
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 3: As of late October, Donald Trump's popularity is mixed and

1827
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 3: trending down. Average approval between thirty nine and forty one percent,

1828
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: disapproval around fifty seven to sixty percent. That makes a

1829
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: net approval rating of roughly minus eighteen to nineteen points

1830
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 3: That is the lowest of his second term. It is

1831
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: fifteen to seven. Big story out of the UK Andrew

1832
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: is no longer a prince. Gavin Gray is.

1833
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: Next everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business

1834
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Hour with Andrew Dickins and Mays for insurance investments.

1835
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: And Quie Safer, You're in good hands news talks that'd

1836
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: be Yes.

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01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 3: It is now twelve minutes to seven, and we welcome

1838
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,560
Speaker 3: to the program out of the UK, Gavin Gray, the

1839
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 3: Gavin either Andrew. We have certainly canvas and covered at

1840
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: length of course Andrew's fall from grace and his loss

1841
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 3: of his royal honors. But one thing we have heard

1842
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 3: that maybe his life is a royal deserver, but the

1843
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 3: troubles with the f scene files are not. And now

1844
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: there are new demands for him to go to the

1845
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 3: United States to answer questions.

1846
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 23: Yes, and I think those will grow as well Andrew

1847
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 23: with time. Obviously, the royal founder, the king is hoping

1848
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 23: that by effectively taking every royal thing for a way

1849
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 23: from him, that'll put some distance between the royal family

1850
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 23: and Prince Andrew. But for Prince Andrew himself personally, I

1851
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 23: can see this carrying on a minute. The release of

1852
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 23: these so called Epstein files by a US Congress committee

1853
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 23: has revealed so many different details about the sex offenders,

1854
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 23: various relationships by whom I refer, of course to Jeffrey

1855
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 23: Epstein and perhaps already led to Andrew's downfall, but also

1856
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,560
Speaker 23: to the downfall of the former US ambassador, Lord Mandelssohn

1857
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 23: there but those ongoing investigations have plenty more files and

1858
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 23: emails to pour through, so I think there could be

1859
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 23: some more uncomfortable nature to that. And indeed, now we're

1860
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 23: getting news that one Democrat Representative su Has Obramian says, quote,

1861
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 23: he owes it to the victims to share everything he

1862
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,879
Speaker 23: knows about Epstein's criminal operation and come before the Oversight

1863
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 23: Committee in the US Congress, really really keen to speak

1864
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 23: to Prince Andrew. Now he doesn't have to go, and

1865
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 23: in the past has refused to go, saying, you know,

1866
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 23: he can't add anything to his earlier statements. But I

1867
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 23: think now there's going to be even more pressure for

1868
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 23: him to go, and potentially pressure as well within the

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01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 23: royal family if this continues. And as I said, I

1870
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 23: can't see it slowing down anytime soon. And certainly Virginia Jufra,

1871
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 23: Virginia Roberts, his alleged victim with whom he paid that money, all.

1872
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 9: Those years ago.

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Speaker 23: They are saying, you know, this is just she would

1874
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 23: have appreciated. She of course has died, but she would

1875
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 23: have appreciated that her words and her actions and her

1876
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 23: steadfastness has led to his four from grace. But to

1877
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 23: be clear, Prince Andrew denies any wrongdoing, denies ever meeting

1878
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 23: Virginia at Roberts, and denies lots of those allegations that

1879
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 23: he had sex with the young women, guided as it were,

1880
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 23: by Jeffrey Epstein. But this is something that is bound

1881
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 23: to continue and will cause further discomfort in the next

1882
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 23: few weeks.

1883
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 3: Of course. The other big story out of Europe is

1884
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 3: the Louver heist in Paris. Five suspects have now been arrested.

1885
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: The jewels and the gold have not been found, where too.

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01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 23: Nixt yes, So at the moment it appears that the

1887
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 23: five can be detained for a number of days, and

1888
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 23: it is thought that at least one of them is

1889
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 23: suspected of taking part in the raid itself. We know

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01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 23: that there were four robbers or four people involved in

1891
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 23: this heist, and it's thought that one of the five

1892
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 23: who's been arrested in raids coordinated raids around Paris is

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01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 23: the suspect of being actually involved on the day as

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01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 23: it were, They can be held for those four days

1895
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 23: to be charged or released. Police are saying that the

1896
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 23: two that they'd arrested earlier are still being questioned, so

1897
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 23: seven in total now. But the two that were arrested first,

1898
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 23: it's said, there is nothing that they have said, no

1899
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 23: statements that they've given that have implicated any of the five.

1900
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 23: This is sort of separate strand of the investigation. But

1901
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 23: they have now said they do not believe it to

1902
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 23: be an inside job within a staff member of the

1903
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 23: LOUVER taking part. They don't believe that to be the case.

1904
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 23: But these items, Andrew sadly worth ooh gosh, about one

1905
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 23: hundred and seventy five million New Zealand dollars worth of

1906
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 23: jewelry and such completely irreplaceable good. It's so sad that

1907
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 23: investigations continue that they.

1908
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 3: Are priceless because it's not just the physical value of

1909
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 3: the gold or the jewels, it's what they were and

1910
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 3: how they sit in French history. So that's amazing. I

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01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 3: think I think the thing that gets me that they've

1912
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 3: arrested these people, but they haven't found the jewels or

1913
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 3: the gold. They've arrested some of them while they're at

1914
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 3: airport's trying to get away. I reckon the jewels and

1915
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: the gold have already gone, but I hope not. And

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Speaker 3: I thank you Gavin Gray. It is seven to seven

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Speaker 3: as well. Then they move on to Sydney Olympic Park,

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Speaker 3: no problem, and they are plenty of tickets for that.

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Speaker 3: Heather is rocking out with the back of head on

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Speaker 3: today and we'll be back with you on Monday. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: it's time to go with a bit of music from

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Speaker 3: the music master, mister.

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Speaker 25: Millicit Ghostbusters theme song by Ray Parker Junior to play

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Speaker 25: us out tonight. Andrew, why how about that poll with

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Speaker 25: eighty percent of people saying they hate Halloween?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do people get Halloween?

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Speaker 4: You dress up?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, lollies.

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Speaker 25: You know, the kids go around the neighborhood. They get

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Speaker 25: off their iPads for half a second and go out

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Speaker 25: in the neighborhood and interact with all the seas pressure.

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Speaker 3: And it's the pressure to buy the tricks and the treats,

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Speaker 3: and you know, to be pested all my lot, Buddy,

1944
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Speaker 3: I'm greatest kids in the American tradition.

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Speaker 25: I appreciate the cost living crisis as bad, but I'm

1946
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Speaker 25: sure most of us can probably spring for a quick

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Speaker 25: bag of bulk lollies for the supermarket.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go Yeah, so Ghostbusters for Halloween, Andrew, my thanks,

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Speaker 3: produce for Laura Sam and of course ants I lard

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Speaker 3: hey use here tomorrow night. But in my day, I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited see it.

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Speaker 26: Then I ain't fraid the nota case. I ain't fraiding

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Speaker 26: note case.

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Speaker 9: Don't get caught. It comes to die unless you just

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Speaker 9: watch the moon. I think you better call who you

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Speaker 9: gonna call, who you're gonna call. Think you better call.

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Speaker 4: Who you're gonna call.

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Speaker 9: I can't do who you gonna call. Louder who you

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Speaker 9: don't call?

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Speaker 3: It likes the girls too.

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