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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you can try us.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupersy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 2: Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news,

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Speaker 3: And Morning and welcome here that alissyellen enso Mike Hosking

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Speaker 3: has already gone off on this Christmas Holidays lucky old

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Speaker 3: thing coming up today. Phillo Riley, formerly of Business New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: also used to be involved in the last iteration of

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Speaker 3: the boot camps. He'll talk us through whether we need

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Speaker 3: to shut the stuff down. We're going to head to

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Speaker 3: the Middle East after seven to find out what's next

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Speaker 3: for Syria. The boss of New Zealand Rugby's in for

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Speaker 3: a final chat this year on everything. And we've also

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Speaker 3: got Richard Arnold and Steve Price doing the offshore stuff

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupersy Allen.

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Speaker 3: I do not buy this argument which seems to have

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Speaker 3: taken hold kind of widely, that the boot camp trial

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Speaker 3: has to be shut down immediately because two kids escaped

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Speaker 3: and got arrested after allegedly stealing the carnaff You haven't

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Speaker 3: caught up on this over the weekend. The couple of

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Speaker 3: kids who ran away. After the tonguey last week got

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Speaker 3: rounded up, they were arrested, they allegedly hooked up up

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Speaker 3: with each other, found another couple of mates, went out

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Speaker 3: and licked a car, then ran from the cops in

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Speaker 3: that car. When the cops finally busted them, one of

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Speaker 3: them legged it with a machete allegedly and then tried

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Speaker 3: to carjack another vehicle, and the cops found on them

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Speaker 3: or in their vehicle or wherever they were, found a

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Speaker 3: bunch of knives and balaclavas, not to mention the machete

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Speaker 3: as well. Now, as a result of this, the Green

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Speaker 3: Party and the Labour Party, both of whom hate the

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Speaker 3: boot camps, are losing their minds over this and calling

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Speaker 3: on the government to end the boot camp trial immediately.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, I cannot understand why why do

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Speaker 3: we need to end the boot camp trial because of

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Speaker 3: what's just happened. I mean, if anything, this tells me

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Speaker 3: how badly we actually need the boot camps to continue,

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Speaker 3: because these are obviously very bad kids. When you don't

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Speaker 3: put a balaklava in your car unless you've got some

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Speaker 3: pretty sinister and dark plans, do you, And this after

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Speaker 3: you've already committed two crimes, not one, but two crimes

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Speaker 3: that carry a maximum sentence of ten years each, which

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Speaker 3: is why you're in the boot camp in the first place.

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Speaker 3: And the boot camps haven't turned these kids into criminals.

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Speaker 3: These kids were already criminals, which is why they're in

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Speaker 3: the boot camps. So ask yourself this, Okay, if we

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Speaker 3: shut down the boot camps, we've already got ten criminals.

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Speaker 3: If we shut down the boot camps, what's going to

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Speaker 3: happen to these kids? If they're going to go to jail?

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Speaker 3: Would we prefer that or would do we want them

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Speaker 3: to just roam around in the community for you know,

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Speaker 3: just roam around free, in which case, to just carry

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Speaker 3: on committing these kinds of crimes, the kinds of crimes

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Speaker 3: we just saw them do allegedly over the weekend. I

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Speaker 3: don't see these two going on the run as a

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Speaker 3: failure of the boot camp trial. I see it as

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Speaker 3: a reason to keep on doing the boot camp trial,

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Speaker 3: because clearly, how much do these kids need intervention If

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Speaker 3: they're prepared to allegedly run around in a stolen car

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Speaker 3: with Balaclava's knives in a machete.

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Speaker 2: What news of the world in ninety seconds well, while

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: Is looking at Syria and the takeover, the rebel leader

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Speaker 3: has said goodbye to a sard.

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Speaker 4: With God's help, the city of Damascus has been liberated

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Speaker 4: and the tyrant Forsha al Asad has fallen, and all

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Speaker 4: the unjustly detainees have been released from all the regime prisons.

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Speaker 3: The Syrian Prime Minister, though, doesn't seem too bothered about it.

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Speaker 5: This country can be a normal country, a country that

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Speaker 5: builds good relations with its neighbors and with the world

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Speaker 5: without entering into any regional alliances. But will leave this

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Speaker 5: matter to any new leadership that will be chosen by

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Speaker 5: the Syrian people.

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Speaker 3: The rebels themselves, known as Htes, are stoked.

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Speaker 6: Dear brothers, we are living in the final moments of

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Speaker 6: the liberation of the city of Homs. We advise our

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Speaker 6: brothers in the resistance to show compassion towards the people.

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Speaker 6: Those who laid down their weapons should be granted safety,

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Speaker 6: unless who flee should not be caught.

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Speaker 3: Nitnyahoo's petting himself on the back of the Syricans. It's

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Speaker 3: Israel's offensive against Iran a Hizbolla that lead to Syria's collapse.

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Speaker 7: If we can establish neighborly relations and a peaceful relations

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Speaker 7: with the new forces emerging in Syria. That's our desire.

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Speaker 7: But if we do not, we'll do whatever it takes

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Speaker 7: to defend the state of Israel and the border of Israel.

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Speaker 3: Now, this reporter is in Syria, has a completely non

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Speaker 8: I mean there's a lot of anger.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of people who are starving, people who were.

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Speaker 9: Fed up with the long years of war, with the

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Speaker 9: lack of development in the country. And definitely changed was

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Speaker 9: on the agenda.

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Speaker 3: And of course what do all the Syrian people think

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Speaker 3: of this? The freedom for Syria. We base a huge

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Speaker 3: price for that.

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Speaker 10: We paid a lot during these fourteen years. We hope

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Speaker 10: that everything should stop now and we should start.

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Speaker 1: And you I'm looking for the first of flights s.

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Speaker 1: We have to go back.

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Speaker 3: And finally we have got the most valuable movie memorabilia

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Speaker 3: sold it auction yet, pair of Judy Garland's red slippers.

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Speaker 3: Now she only wore four of these pairs while she

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Speaker 3: was filming. They were sold for forty eight million New

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Speaker 3: Zealand dollars, which is extraordinary given that they had an

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Speaker 3: estimate of only five million. So well, exceeded that surpasses

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Speaker 3: the previous most expensive movie prop, which was Robbie the

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Speaker 3: robot from the nineteen fifty six sci fi movie Forbidden Planet.

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Speaker 3: And that is news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: How unfortunate is this? I'm go, I tell you something unfortunate. Right,

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Speaker 3: So you got a granny seventy seven year old just

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Speaker 3: Stop oil activist in the UK might have to go

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Speaker 3: to jail because her wrists are too skinny. So she

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Speaker 3: was I don't know if you remember this, but this

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Speaker 3: wound people up. Something chronic back a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago when the Just Stop Oil people were climbing the

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Speaker 3: gan trees in London and it caused huge traffic disruption. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the courts over there are not having a bar of it.

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Speaker 3: They're not going softly on and they're going hard on

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Speaker 3: these guys. So they sent the granny seventy seven year

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Speaker 3: out for home d for the rest of her sentence.

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Speaker 3: But when they went to fit the ankle bracelet on

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Speaker 3: and they couldn't because she had a medical condition. Quite

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Speaker 3: what that is, I don't know. I mean, it could

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Speaker 3: be anything, right, maybe no legs. Who knows how she

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Speaker 3: got up the gantry. I don't know, but anyway, health

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Speaker 3: condition that means you can't put the ankle bracelead on,

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Speaker 3: have to go back to the slammer and there's a

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Speaker 3: warrant out for her arrest. No, that's how they treat

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Speaker 3: them over there. Thirteen plus six.

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Speaker 3: Heathery, can you highlight some boot camp success stories and

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Speaker 3: not just the negative now just off the top of

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Speaker 3: my head room, I'm having to scan my break brain

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Speaker 3: from last week. But I think that the success stories

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Speaker 3: is that we've got one of them or this is

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Speaker 3: out of ten kids right, one's dead now, so we've

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Speaker 3: got nine kids. It's got the two that have absconded

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Speaker 3: and been arrested. We've got one in a job, one

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Speaker 3: in work experience, one about to get a job, and

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Speaker 3: then several of them in some sort of training or education.

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Speaker 3: So that's not half bad? Is at sixteen past six?

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Speaker 3: Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management, Good morning to.

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Speaker 1: You, Greg, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Do you have all right got a strong jobs reporting

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Speaker 3: the US have we?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, very strong helped the S and P five a

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Speaker 11: new record high on Friday. So US economy created two

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Speaker 11: hundred and twenty seven thousand non farm jobs in November,

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Speaker 11: so that was above estimates of two and fourteen thousand,

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Speaker 11: big surge on the previous month actually, although they'd been

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Speaker 11: affected by the hurricanes and strike action at Boeing. A

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Speaker 11: job growth for October that was actually revised up as

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Speaker 11: well through sixersy from twelve and September's payroll count was

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Speaker 11: also revised upwards.

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Speaker 8: Just looking at.

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Speaker 11: Things in November, it was a healthcare sector once again,

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Speaker 11: as it often does, drove the job editions to seventy

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Speaker 11: two thousand, the leisure in hospital that was pretty strong,

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Speaker 11: and the government chipped in as well. Just despite the

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Speaker 11: are up yzero point four percent.

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Speaker 1: That was high and expected.

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Speaker 11: So your labor market's still pretty fair obviously, come off

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Speaker 11: those pandemic high though, and look, I think on balance,

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Speaker 11: the data gives the Federal Reserve the green light to

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Speaker 11: lower rates again in the next week's meetings. The markets

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Speaker 11: and the fiends probably going to come to the party

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Speaker 11: in the season of driven giving with au pre Christmas

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Speaker 11: you had a bit of a tough year and things

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Speaker 11: that started to slow in America's that's their largest markets

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Speaker 11: increase in competition. More selective consumers have also had a

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Speaker 11: few botched product launchers this year. Certain pastoral colors didn't

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Speaker 11: lifted sales across several business so revenues grew just two

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Speaker 11: The company says it's pleases start of the holiday season.

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Speaker 11: They see sales in the current quarter growing by eight

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Speaker 11: actually wolf. They jumped eight percent after a small and

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Speaker 11: people are still spending on their pets globally. These years

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Speaker 11: are up sixty five percent year to day and just

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Speaker 11: quickly another company having a good year so far as

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Speaker 11: DOCU signed. So these look after the year ease signatures,

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Speaker 11: they beat estimates. Revenue is the current quarters seven hundred

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Speaker 11: and sixty million. I spose you know a world of AI.

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Speaker 11: We're also we're trying to figure out what's real and

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Speaker 11: what's not. Their services really heading the marks. So they

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Speaker 11: use really strong data encryption technology. So she's done well,

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Speaker 11: actually up ninety percent years to day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you fill of good news this morning because

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Speaker 3: the Eurozone economy has also expanded, hasn't it.

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Speaker 11: Yeahs, it's actually come for a pretty good bit of data.

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Speaker 11: So this is the third quarter the economy over the

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Speaker 3: The only problem with the boot camps is they've been

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Speaker 3: that very shortly right now, twenty three away from seven groups.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like here with mortgages are hedging their

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Speaker 3: and investments, we've got David Cunningham with us Morning.

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Speaker 8: David, good morning here.

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Speaker 3: That ninety percent seems really high. How much? Why is

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Speaker 13: It's pretty much the hest I've ever seen it in

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, about normally about ten percent of all

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Speaker 13: Funnily enough, I've got a two ninety nine percent rate

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Speaker 8: Part of that massive group, so my rate's going to

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Speaker 3: Are you feeling about it, David.

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Speaker 13: I'm pretty satisfied that good run. But you know, there

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Speaker 3: If somebody is sitting there going, okay, I'm just going

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Speaker 13: Well, this is the ridiculous of the situation. We're floating

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Speaker 13: So at the moment, because of the timing of this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you seeing out there, David? Are you

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Speaker 13: Look, I think it's going to be a gradual, gradual

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, David, thank you really appreciate it. Ha have

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Speaker 3: it's debatable. We've had this discussion today. It's debatable as

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Speaker 3: to whether this is this is a limb problem or

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Speaker 3: a team problem. But what happened as he went into

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Speaker 3: the pits and they didn't put his front left wheel

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Speaker 3: on properly, which you know that you had one job

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Speaker 3: just put the wheel on, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And then they didn't do that.

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Speaker 12: I think he's a bit of time pressure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well do we have that excuse? I mean, if

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Speaker 3: we just stopped doing our jobs properly, we're allowed to

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Speaker 3: be all the time pressure.

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Speaker 12: I can't honestly say that the wheels haven't fallen off

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Speaker 12: the show from time to time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is a fair point actually, you and glasshouses,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. However, I'm not racing for my

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Speaker 3: next job, do you know what I mean? So well,

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Speaker 3: maybe I am. God only knows what's going on anyway.

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Speaker 3: So they didn't put the front left wheel on properly.

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Speaker 3: So what happened, of course, is he had to do

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Speaker 3: a second successive stop and so as a result he

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Speaker 3: At this point, he's not doing too badly, he's eighth,

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Speaker 3: but after that he can't get up the grid and

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Speaker 3: so then he's given he's given the thing held for

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Speaker 3: leather and as a result, the engine then puts out

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Speaker 3: and in the last lap can't can't do it, doesn't finish. Now,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine this is going to help his chances

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Speaker 3: very much in competing for that seat next year. We

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Speaker 3: have a chat to the commentary box. They're going to

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Speaker 3: be with us as per usual on a Monday after

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Speaker 3: eight o'clock seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 3: have a problem with fluoride. I feel like I need

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Speaker 3: to say that upfront before I tell you what I'm

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Speaker 3: about to tell you. But I don't hate this idea.

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Speaker 3: So toting a city council is considering putting in a

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Speaker 3: fluoride free tap just basically to a piece of people

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Speaker 3: So what they're doing is you got to drive to it.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna come out of your tap. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to go to It's like out on the city boundary.

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Speaker 3: Sounds very medieval somewhere out in the city boundaries, but

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Speaker 3: at least there will be a tap there. And it's

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Speaker 3: not that expensive in terms of how much council spends

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Speaker 3: on things. The estimated cost of setting up the supply

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Speaker 3: point is about thirty thousand dollars and then every year

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Speaker 3: it's going to cost five grand, which what is that?

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Speaker 3: That's chump change, right to make the anti fluoride people happy. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: and explain this to us. He is, of course, the

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold, US correspondent, Morning Richard, Good morning, Heather. Do

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Speaker 3: you get the feeling that Trump is busy needling pootin

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Speaker 3: over Syria.

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Speaker 15: Needling putin? Ah, I don't know. I think he's trying

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Speaker 15: to take a hands off approach. At the moment he

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Speaker 15: said that Syria is not America's problem, it's not our fight.

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Speaker 15: It's what he is posted on one of your social

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Speaker 15: media pieces today. But these dramatic events playing out with

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Speaker 15: all kinds of potential repercussions, and then just hours thesad's

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Speaker 15: brutal twenty four regime has left the country in chaos,

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Speaker 15: with a great deal of uncertainty as to what is next.

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Speaker 15: Of course, it ends the dictatorship marked by war crimes,

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Speaker 15: including air strikes on civilians and the use of chemical weapons.

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Speaker 15: More than one hundred and thirty thousand people arrested by

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Speaker 15: a SAD and co and a UN investigation described the

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Speaker 15: detentions as a process of extermination. Circumstances changed, though, with

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Speaker 15: Russia focused on its war in Ukraine and THESSADS, Ralian

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Speaker 15: back Lebanese militia Hasbilla losing some key leadership figures through

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Speaker 15: recent clashes with Israel. As we know, so President Biden's

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Speaker 15: meeting today with his national security team to look at

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Speaker 15: the implications. While Trump, as I said, say, is saying

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Speaker 15: his first instinct is hands off. However, there are some

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Speaker 15: nine hundred US troops in Syria working with Kurdish allies

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Speaker 15: that try to prevent any resurgence of the Islamic State Group.

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Speaker 15: Former Sincom Commander General Frank Hensey says of this situation.

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Speaker 16: Our troops east to the Euphrates River, prepaired with our

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Speaker 16: SADF partners, are there to keep a lid on ISIS

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Speaker 16: and permit violent extremist organizations from gathering strength and being

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Speaker 16: able to attack the homeland of the United States. ISIS

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Speaker 16: aspires to attack US. As we know, ISIS loust a

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Speaker 16: successful attack against Russia just a few months ago. That's

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Speaker 16: why those troops are there. So any decision to bring

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Speaker 16: them out would need to weigh that going forward.

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Speaker 15: So what will Trump do well? This ties in, of course,

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Speaker 15: with the Trump team now being drawn together, and especially

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Speaker 15: his choice for the top intelligence job. Telsey Gabbard as

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Speaker 15: Director of National Intelligence. Here Back in twenty seventeen, Gabbard

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Speaker 15: made an unannounced trip to Syria to meet with a

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Speaker 15: saying he was no threat to the US. So how

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Speaker 15: does that selection now stand. Republican Mike Tunam, the head

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Speaker 15: of the Intelligence Committee in the House, says he has

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Speaker 15: big concerns about Gabbard. Here's his take.

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Speaker 17: Obviously different in a great deal in a number of areas,

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Speaker 17: with both her judgment and her background and experience. And

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Speaker 17: I think the Senators are going to put her through processing.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so this might add some fuel to the whole situation. Clearly,

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Speaker 15: Turner is no fan of Gabbard, whom some have suggested

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Speaker 15: might be kind of Russian inside. A meantime, the fall

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Speaker 15: of us ID might provide the chance to discover the

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Speaker 15: fate of some who are missing. That includes family named

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Speaker 15: Austin Tice, a missing American journalists who disappeared in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 15: He was freelancing for The Washington Post and other outlets

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Speaker 15: at the time. His family still believes he is alive.

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Speaker 15: Over the years, Assad denied any knowledge of Austin tyss

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Speaker 15: as noted though he's been missing for a long long time.

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Speaker 15: As to what next in Syria, unclear, says retired General

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Speaker 15: mackenziem sure.

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Speaker 16: Is ultimately going to be good news for the people

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Speaker 16: of Syria. You know, we could have an Islamic state

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Speaker 16: arise there, which will have profound negative implications across the regent.

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Speaker 2: That is possible.

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Speaker 16: There are other possibilities.

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Speaker 15: As well, So next few hours will show us.

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Speaker 3: I guess, and listen to this interview that he's just

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Speaker 3: given this as Trump has given to NBC where he

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Speaker 3: says he's not going to try and remove the FED chairs.

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Speaker 3: That really is. It feels like that was something that

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Speaker 3: everybody else got excited about.

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Speaker 15: Well, he had certainly raised the prospect, and they've been

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Speaker 15: at odds. So this is one of those campaign cut

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Speaker 15: and thrusts that you see along the way. Now Trump

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Speaker 18: I don't think so I don't see it, but.

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Speaker 8: I don't.

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Speaker 18: I think I told him till he would, but if

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Speaker 15: But in fact, Powell has said he does not think

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Speaker 15: that the president has the legal authority to remove him.

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Speaker 15: Power was originally chosen by Trump in twenty seventeen sound

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Speaker 15: on him when Power refused to speed up the Trump

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Speaker 15: call for lower interest rates as the FED worth gearing

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Speaker 15: to battle inflation. In the past, Trump has called pal

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Speaker 15: an enemy and Fed officials boneheads. So nothing new and

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Speaker 15: Trump lexicon right. He says also he wants to work

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Speaker 15: with Democrats on finding a solution for the so called dreamers.

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Speaker 15: So we're talking about immigration here. These are people brought

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Speaker 15: into this country legally by their parents when they were

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Speaker 15: just small children. This idea of working with the Dems

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Speaker 15: is something we haven't heard much of in recent times.

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Speaker 15: While Trump also has reeedd his assertion that he will

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Speaker 15: move to free the January the sixth prisoners, those convicted

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Speaker 15: of crimes for their actions on the day of the

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Speaker 15: attack on the US Capitol, he says, of the situation

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Speaker 15: that they have been in.

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Speaker 18: I'm going to be acting very quickly. They've been in

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Speaker 18: there for years, and they're in a filthy, disgusting place

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Speaker 18: that shouldn't even be allowed to be open.

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Speaker 15: He says also he has no plans to direct any

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Speaker 15: special or investigator towards the current president Biden, but he

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Speaker 15: remains somewhat vague about any enemies list.

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Speaker 18: I'm not doing that unless they find something that I

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Speaker 18: think is reasonable. But that's not going to be my decision.

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Speaker 18: That's going to be Pimbondi's decision, and to a different extent,

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Speaker 18: cash Betel, assuming they're both there and I think they're

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Speaker 18: both going to get approved.

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Speaker 15: So Trump the master of deniability as always.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks very much, Richard appreciated as Richard Arnold, US correspondent. Listen,

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Speaker 3: we haven't. It's been a bit of a mystery as

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Speaker 3: to where Sart has gone, because he's left Damascus, but

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Speaker 3: to where. Russian state media are just reporting right now

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Speaker 3: that he's headed and has arrived in Moscow nine away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather dupisy Ellen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with al

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Speaker 2: Vida Retirement Communities News tog said, behither.

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Speaker 3: What a load of twaddle this is on Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 3: Bad pit stops can't be blamed on the driver. Liam

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Speaker 3: did what any driver would do and drove from thirty

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Speaker 3: seconds to behind to sixteen. It's his race engineer's role

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Speaker 3: to make sure the driver knows that anything, if anything's

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Speaker 3: overheat in its ceter so the engine blowing up is

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Speaker 3: not actually his daily either, but to finish higher in

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Speaker 3: the last race. It probably was the strategy race flat

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Speaker 3: out problem is okay. So here's the thing, and that's

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Speaker 3: a very fair point. This is why we're having the

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Speaker 3: debate about whether Liam laws. It's a Liam problem or

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Speaker 3: a pit's problem or a team's problem this season in

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Speaker 3: the last six races that he's run. But he hasn't

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Speaker 3: really We're all very excited, won't we He hasn't really

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Speaker 3: blown it out of the park. He hasn't really actually

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Speaker 3: outdone what everybody thought he was going to do. So anyway, look,

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Speaker 3: don't take my word for it. We've got a couple

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Speaker 3: of guys who are all about sport in the commentary

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Speaker 3: box after eight, so they'll run us through all of

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Speaker 3: the details and you can get there. Take five away

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Speaker 3: from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fiz with business fiber, take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 1: The next level.

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Speaker 3: Now we are slightly behind the rest of the world,

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Speaker 3: but we finally have some comprehensive data when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the biggest spending period of Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

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Speaker 3: This comes from dot Love's data. Overall, we Kiwee's us

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Speaker 3: with no money at the moment spent five hundred and

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Speaker 3: four million dollars over the weekend, which is an increase

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Speaker 3: of nearly six percent on last year, so that's not

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Speaker 3: doing badly. Millennials were the biggest spenders on Black Friday.

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Speaker 3: They dropped forty five million bucks. Gen X's they spent

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Speaker 3: thirty seven million bucks, which was one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: percent increase, by the way on the regular November day,

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Speaker 3: and both of these generations mostly spent their money on sports,

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Speaker 3: hobbies and home improvement. Boomers not quite as gung home

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Speaker 3: with their spending. They dropped twenty one million bucks on

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Speaker 3: Black Friday, which was actually up one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: percent on last year's day, and they mostly shop for

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Speaker 3: housing and living items, so they're more practical and some

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Speaker 3: say practical someday boring gen z weren't spending twice as much.

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Speaker 3: They actually matured the most out of all of the generations.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the spending was mostly on fashion and beauty.

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Speaker 3: This year they leaned more on home related purchases, and

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Speaker 3: the good news is that the local business has benefit

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Speaker 3: from it, which is basically all we can ask for.

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Speaker 3: The vast majority of our money was spent here in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand with only a small minority going towards online

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Speaker 3: international retailers. So well done us supporting the local guys. Already,

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Speaker 3: we have got Phillo Riley with us very very shortly.

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Speaker 3: He's going to talk us through this boot camp's debarkle.

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Speaker 3: He was involved in the last round of boot camps,

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Speaker 3: give us his take on whether we need to shut

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Speaker 3: this stuff down. And then we're gonna have a chat

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Speaker 3: to a Middle East correspondent just to find out how

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Speaker 3: how big the threat is that the slot coming into

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Speaker 3: Syria are actually going to bring the ice of stuff

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Speaker 3: with them. Plenty coming up newspooks, be.

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Speaker 14: Ardon a cardinal not to celebrate, just a.

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Speaker 2: Demanding, the says from the decision makers. Can the duplessy

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Speaker 2: Ellen on the my asking breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use

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Speaker 1: the togs?

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Speaker 3: That'd be good morning to you. So we have developments

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Speaker 3: on those two kids who ran away from the military

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Speaker 3: boot camps last week. They've now been arrested, but that's

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Speaker 3: after allegedly stealing a car running from the cops. One

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Speaker 3: tried then to car jack another car with a machette

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Speaker 3: and when the police searched them. They found knives in

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Speaker 3: balaclavas quite apart from the machete as well. Now, former

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Speaker 3: Boss of Business New Zealand filler Ralli was on the

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Speaker 3: Welfare Expert Advisory Group and is with us. Now, hey Phil,

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Speaker 3: here you go, Phil, I'm very well, thank you. Now,

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Speaker 3: do we do what Labor and the Greens want us

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Speaker 3: to do and we shut these boot camps down?

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Speaker 8: Of course, not actually they work.

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Speaker 19: I mean I was on one, not as participant but

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Speaker 19: as a sponsor one in the John Key government that

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Speaker 19: version of it, and that the change I was not

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Speaker 19: be necessarily advocate turning up to see this thing work.

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Speaker 19: But at the end of it, these kids had had

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Speaker 19: their lives changed for the better and the only issue

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Speaker 19: was afterwards they just went back to their old ways.

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Speaker 19: And this new one, I'm told is attempting to solve

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Speaker 19: that issue. But now, these are troubled kids, and they've

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Speaker 19: had tough upbringings and so who knew that sometimes they

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Speaker 19: might have gone and do bad things. And I know

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Speaker 19: that's a terrible thing that's happened. But you can't blame

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Speaker 19: the whole system just on that on that issue, and

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Speaker 19: I think we need to see it through now, because

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Speaker 19: I can tell you from personal experience of seeing one

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Speaker 19: of these things in action. They work, These kids walk

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Speaker 19: out better sober, you know, together, more team building and

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Speaker 19: so on, and they just need support to realtigrate back

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Speaker 19: into a better life ahead.

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Speaker 3: Does this suggest to you that perhaps what needs to

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Speaker 3: happen here is that whatever the wrap around is, that

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Speaker 3: that happens once the back in the community, which is

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Speaker 3: where these two boys were, that needs to be beefed up.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely the biggest shear I said to ms the officials

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Speaker 19: when I was on the last one a few years ago.

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Speaker 19: What happens now, and this is on graduation day, proud

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Speaker 19: parents turning up, proud EMD members turning up, really great,

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Speaker 19: a great occasion. But what the officials were saying was

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Speaker 19: somebody to they're just going to go back to, you know,

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Speaker 19: whatever they went in beforehand, and they're just going to regress.

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Speaker 19: And sadly, I didn't get to something that may people

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Speaker 19: up the ministry. We're all that supportive of the whole process,

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Speaker 19: so they weren't necessarily leaning into making the kinds of

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Speaker 19: changes that are necessary there this government saying okay, we're

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Speaker 19: going to have after care, We're going to have some

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Speaker 19: help for the kids through if you carry on the

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Speaker 19: good experiences after this process and not think that's absolutely right. Well,

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Speaker 19: it works not for every kid, but it works for some.

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Speaker 19: I suspect it definitely worked with some of the kids

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Speaker 19: I saw, and let's make sure that it can be

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Speaker 19: made to work rather than getting into some of these

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Speaker 19: brick bat throwing just due to politics, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, yeah, totally listen on that subject. Though the minister

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Speaker 3: is not talking about this. She has not talked about

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Speaker 3: this for days now, so I'm reading that she's feeling

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Speaker 3: the pressure on this. Do you think this trial can

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Speaker 3: survive it?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: I think it can, but I think maybe to see

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Speaker 19: it through, because otherwise all it will happenings they'll be

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Speaker 19: seeing to us falling over at the first gate. As

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Speaker 19: I say, these kids are babished and in fact they've

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Speaker 19: gone through tough times, and in fact, I's targeting much

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Speaker 19: more of these kind of harder to solve offenders and

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Speaker 19: how to solve young people with this particular program rather

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Speaker 19: than some of the kids I saw.

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Speaker 8: They would just.

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Speaker 19: Off the rails. Really, so you can mention that there's

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Speaker 19: going to be a few more of these bumps I

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Speaker 19: caught teath in troubles and listens out there as one

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Speaker 19: who's actually seen at work. It does work, and I

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Speaker 19: really hope that the comment will see it through and

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Speaker 19: and say.

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Speaker 3: The course, Phil, thanks for expertise, really appreciate it. That's

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Speaker 3: Villa Riley, former Welford Expert Advisory Group member and as

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Speaker 3: you heard, involved in the last apiration of the boot

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Speaker 3: Camps ten past.

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Speaker 1: Seven Heather Duple see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Butsha Alissade has reportedly fled to Moscow. Now Russian state

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Speaker 3: media is reporting that he and his family have been

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Speaker 3: granted asylum over there, and this is, of course after

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Speaker 3: he fled Syria once the rebels took the capital of Damascus.

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Speaker 3: Sky News Middle East correspondent Alista Bunkler is with US now, Hey, Alistair,

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Speaker 3: hither and anyway surprised that he's turned up in Moscow.

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Speaker 20: No, I think if you were betting where Asad might

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Speaker 20: flee to, then Moscow or Tehran would probably be at

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Speaker 20: the top of your list. There was some roommate he

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Speaker 20: might have gone to the United Arab Emirates. I think

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Speaker 20: a private jet was tracked in going in that direction.

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Speaker 20: But no, I'm not surprised he's gone to Moscow. Russia

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Speaker 20: and Iran were two of Syria's biggest backers, and Russia

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Speaker 20: has a real strategic interest in Syria as well, And

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Speaker 20: so no, it doesn't surprises that that is where he's

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Speaker 20: ended up.

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Speaker 3: So look, I mean, there are a lot of people

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Speaker 3: who are going to be celebrating the end of his tenure.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, what ever comes next may be worse,

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Speaker 3: maybe just as bad. How strong is the tie through

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Speaker 3: to Isis with these rebels, I mean, that is the question.

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Speaker 20: I mean, in terms of what comes next. Yeah, people

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Speaker 20: are celebrating the downfall of Assad. They're celebrating the demise

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Speaker 20: of fifty four years of an Assad dynasty that is

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Speaker 20: ruled over Syria with brutality. It's been a murderous regime.

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Speaker 20: But you know, we mustn't overlook the fact that a

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Speaker 20: major part of the group that has managed to overthrow him.

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Speaker 20: And there's multiple rebel groups, but the biggest of those

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Speaker 20: is a designated terrorist organization by the US, by the

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Speaker 20: United Nations. It had links with al Qaeda, and there

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Speaker 20: are remnants of Islamic State still in Syria and they've

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Speaker 20: been kind of kept sort of at bay over recent years,

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Speaker 20: but a power vacuum, which is what we have now

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Speaker 20: is kind of the perfect environment for groups like Islamic

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Speaker 20: State to thrive in, to take advantage of. And that

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Speaker 20: is why that Yeah, I get on the one hand

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Speaker 20: why people in Syria are obviously celebrating this kind of

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Speaker 20: new dawn, but on the other hand we do have

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Speaker 20: to be quite concerned about what comes back.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Alistair, thanks for your expertise, mate. That's Alista Buncle

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Speaker 3: Sky News Middle East correspondent Ellen.

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Speaker 21: So this is it.

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Speaker 3: We're in the wine down to Christmas, right, so this

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Speaker 3: is a big, big old week for big announcements, surprisingly

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Speaker 3: big given that we're in the wine down to Christmas.

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Speaker 3: We have this week got the Mary Party Hucker crew

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Speaker 3: who are going to find out where what their collective

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Speaker 3: face is going to be. That's going to happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 12: Now that's not if it's no presence, Is that it possibility?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I think I think they are firmly on Santa's naughty list.

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Speaker 3: I would say, actually, so that's tomorrow, so mark that

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Speaker 3: and your diaries will find out two o'clock. Then on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: we've got the decision on the fairies, as in what

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Speaker 3: are we going to do now with the fairies, now

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Speaker 3: that Nicholas obviously canceled the three billion dollar fairy project,

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Speaker 3: and then on Thursday we've got the outcome of the

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Speaker 3: investigation into why the public servants thought that it was

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Speaker 3: a good idea. Do you remember this to put that

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Speaker 3: polling booth in the marai in Manyerewa when the marai

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Speaker 3: in Maniere was being run by a woman who was

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Speaker 3: a candidate running in that election. She was running the

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Speaker 3: marai while also running for the Marti party. You can

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Speaker 3: see how complicated this is. And maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 3: if you had any kind of political antennae, you'd be like,

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Speaker 3: don't put that polling booth there. She's controlling the show. Maybe,

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Speaker 3: so the investigation into that is coming out on Thursday. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm not accusing anyone of trying to bury a bunch

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Speaker 3: of bad news in, you know, the couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: before Christmas, when we're all getting distracted with the kids

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Speaker 3: doing the exams and coming out of school and we're

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Speaker 3: trying to get the shopping done. Some of us already

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Speaker 3: like half out the door for holidays or completely in

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Speaker 3: the case of my casting. I'm not accusing anyone of

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Speaker 3: trying to bury bad news this week. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: beg old week for big announcements, isn't it. Fourteen past

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Speaker 3: seven The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier. We got the boss of Rugby Union

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Speaker 3: with us after seven thirty. I'm gonna there's plenty to

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Speaker 3: talk about running through some of the stuff and just

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Speaker 3: at tech. But first, seventeen past seven, Todunger Todung is

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Speaker 3: considering a pretty creative solution to satisfying the anti fluoride crowd.

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Speaker 3: So what they're thinking of doing is setting up a

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Speaker 3: fluoride free tap on the outskirts of town. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a little think about this. Totaling is me and

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Speaker 3: my head rise down is with us.

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Speaker 9: Now, Hey, my hair morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: How big is the.

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Speaker 3: Crowd in Totung who doesn't want to drink the fluoride?

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Speaker 9: Well, we have, we've we've had a couple of hundred

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Speaker 9: at our council meetings and there's yeah, there's suddenly a

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Speaker 9: very vocal group of people that that don't like, don't

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Speaker 9: like having florid, adds.

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Speaker 8: To the water.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how far out of town are you going

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Speaker 3: to put this tap?

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Speaker 9: Look, we're looking at options as close to the city

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Speaker 9: boundary as.

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Speaker 3: As we can, obviously on the other side of the

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Speaker 3: boundary or something like that.

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Speaker 9: So so the reason that it is is Western Bay

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Speaker 9: currently don't fluoridate. They have a mandate that comes in

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Speaker 9: next year, so this is a temporary option up until

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Speaker 9: the point when they're fluoridating. But yeah, it's it's the

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Speaker 9: the easiest, I guess option for us because it's not

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Speaker 9: it's not that easy to take it out once.

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Speaker 8: You put it in.

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Speaker 3: So how far are people are going to have to

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Speaker 3: drive potentially to go and get this fluoride free water, Well.

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Speaker 9: It depends on where you live as to to how

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Speaker 9: far it is. But you know, we're not a big

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Speaker 9: city in geographic sort.

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Speaker 3: Of map traffic problems, So people actually going to are

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Speaker 3: they actually going to go to the effort driving all

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Speaker 3: the way to this tap just to get water there

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Speaker 3: hasn't got fluoride in it.

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Speaker 9: Look, it's about giving people options and if they're that

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Speaker 9: passionate and wants want to do that, then you know

872
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 9: we need to give them some some options and this

873
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 9: is one that that financially, you know, makes sense. But

874
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 9: you know we're we're looking for for other options that

875
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 9: we can do, you know, to to solve a problem.

876
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Are you going to drive to the tap?

877
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: Mah, I probably won't drive to the tap. No, you know,

878
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 9: I think the main thing for me around fluoriders is

879
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 9: it should be a choice. Obviously, we're finding out how

880
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 9: hard it is to get it out once you put

881
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 9: it in, and you know, there's plenty of options with

882
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 9: toothpaste and et cetera that that you can get fluid

883
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 9: if you want it. I fluoridate my kid's teeth. That's

884
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 9: that's my choice. But you know that's that's something that

885
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 9: putting it in the water, you don't get that choice.

886
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: Somebody sent me a text before and said, Hastings is

887
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: already doing it. I thought, I thought this was a

888
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: particularly novel idea from you guys, but might have already

889
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: been done around the country.

890
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 9: Uh, there's there's definitely some taps so like Hamilton have

891
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 9: a non floridated tap. Yes, but as I say, it's

892
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 9: quite hard to satisfy as a council our requirements for

893
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 9: having safe water and and taking it out. So yeah,

894
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 9: this is this is one way we can do it

895
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 9: at a reasonable price.

896
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: Mahe thanks for chatting us through that, mate, that's my

897
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: head raise del toting Amir. Apparently the text here. We've

898
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: got an anti fluoride tap in central Armiston North as well,

899
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: So you go, I don't mind. I mean, if you

900
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: don't want to drink the stuff, you know, I don't

901
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: mind drinking this stuff. But if you don't want to

902
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: drink the stuff fair enough that there's a tap for you,

903
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: you're just gonna have to make a bit of an

904
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 3: evident't you. You're gonn have to drive there? See twenty one.

905
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how

906
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: It by News Talks.

907
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: That'd be right seven twenty three. Now, look, I'm gonna

908
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: just say sorry right up front, because sometimes I actually

909
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: don't know why I bother talking about the latest thing

910
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: that the Greens have announced read the climate, because it

911
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: is often so deeply in lala land that you need

912
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: a map to find it out, and it actually is

913
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: insulting to even pretend that it's got any credibility. But

914
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: here we go, because I think that there's some value,

915
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: possibly possibly trying to justify it in reminding ourselves what

916
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: kind of wacky stuff a labor government would have to

917
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: include if it actually was able to form after the

918
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: next selection.

919
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 8: So this is it.

920
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: Yesterday the Greens released their emissions reduction plan. Now this

921
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: is basically a plan for how to reduce the carbon

922
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: emissions that you're from New Zealand and buy how much

923
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: and over what period of time. Two lines in this

924
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: that caught my attention. The first one is that the

925
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Greens obviously want to ban coal. Now you do not

926
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: need me to tell you what would mean. What would

927
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: happen if we banned coal. It will literally lead to

928
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: like literally no dispute, leads to blackouts in winter because

929
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: burning coal at Huntly this past winter was the only

930
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: thing at times it was keeping our lights on. And

931
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: Genesis is already stockpiling coal right now for next winter

932
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: for exactly the same reason to keep the lights on.

933
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: So we can't ban coal unless we want to go

934
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: full Third world in this country. But the second headline

935
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: is my favorite, which is increase the carbon that we're

936
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: cutting by twenty thirty by five times. So in the

937
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: next six years whatever were already planned cut, we need

938
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: to increase that by five times. Now, that's the kind

939
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: of bumper stick that the kids of the Climate Strikes

940
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: for school are going to love and they say, well, yeah,

941
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: that's a really great idea. I love what that means,

942
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 3: but I don't know what it means. It's not doable,

943
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: like as all not possible. I know it's not doable

944
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: because even the existing plan is already not doable. And

945
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: we know it's not doable because we're facing a bill

946
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: of twenty four billion dollars in about five years time

947
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: to get some other country somewhere else to plant trees

948
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: for us because we can't meet our own plan. So

949
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: you take that twenty four billion dollars of a plan

950
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: we already cannot meet, and then we try and cut

951
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: five times as much to see how much that bill

952
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: is going to be. Do you want to pay even

953
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: more than twenty four billion dollars to some other random

954
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: country when we're already skinned. No, The answer is no,

955
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: no from you, No from me, no from probably every

956
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: other voter out there who doesn't vote green. So good

957
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: luck to the Greens being taken seriously by people who

958
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: actually understand what's going on with the climate here. And

959
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: also incidentally, good luck to Chris Hopkins, because I'm not

960
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: really sure if you're aware of this, but at the

961
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: Labor Party conference last weekend, Chris Hopkins essentially ruled out

962
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: working with Winston Peters again. He said it was a

963
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: great thing that he did when he ruled out working

964
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: with Winston Peters this time around, which basically leaves him

965
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: two parties that he can coalesce with at the next election.

966
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: That would be the Maori Party and we see how

967
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: they behave or the Greens with these kinds of wacky ideas.

968
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: Two great options. So good luck to Labor, good luck

969
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: to the Greens, because friends like these for ever. Dol Okay,

970
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: here we go, Heather, please ask the boss of n

971
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: z R about the hukka issue and the players supporting

972
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: the Mardi flag. Now I've completely forgotten about that, so

973
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: thank you for.

974
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 12: Doing my The most interesting thing that happened in rugby

975
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 12: all year, is it?

976
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 8: It is?

977
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, But sometimes I try to just compart mentalize those

978
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: annoying things that happen. I deal with them at the time,

979
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: and then I move on. You know how you do

980
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: with a child's bad behavior so that you don't constantly

981
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: hate them. I was doing that with the All Blacks.

982
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that was really annoying. Try and

983
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: forget about it, but now you've reminded me, and so

984
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: now we're gonna have to talk to Mark Robinson about it.

985
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: And I appreciate you doing that also. And actually I

986
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: don't know whether Glenn was taking the mickey or not

987
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: as his is what, but it might have been one

988
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: of the most interesting things that happened on the rugby

989
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: field Razor interesting for has he actually performed has he not?

990
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: That's up for debate. Picking the overseas players, that's a

991
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: debate that these guys are going to have to have.

992
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: We've got Richie Muwong, have we got them coming back

993
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: or not? Sky deal, what's up with that? That thing

994
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: sits onside and that needs to be signed quick smart

995
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: if the rugby union want to get any money, are

996
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: they going to get enough money from it? And also

997
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: Patsy Ready now, Patsy said that she was quitting as

998
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: the board cheir be as things didn't go her way,

999
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: but last I checked, she's still there. So what's up.

1000
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: There's plenty plenty for us to get through with the

1001
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: rugby boss who's going to be there shortly news talks,

1002
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: he'd be.

1003
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: Where ready, person, Mazie, you're trusted source for news and views.

1004
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's

1005
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: real estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, and rural

1006
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: news talks, he'd be Heather.

1007
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: So, the Greens want to number one, stop the coal imports.

1008
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Number two, cut emissions by fifty percent and five years.

1009
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: Number three, stop dairy farms converting to forestry, Number four

1010
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: and force offshore gas exploration. I think someone stole their calculator. No, no,

1011
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: this is this is the standard Green Party calculator. This

1012
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: is why the rest of us.

1013
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 12: Are they for anything but just sort of stop things.

1014
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: Own.

1015
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: It's a very good question. It's a very good QUI

1016
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stopping going on there. Therefore, I

1017
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: don't know a better world. But whatever their calculator is

1018
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: is not the same kind of calculator the rest of

1019
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: us using, which is why we find it very hard

1020
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: to kind of understand what's up. But in their world,

1021
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: that whole thing makes perfect sense. Now the Auckland, look,

1022
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to brag. I live in Auckland. I

1023
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: don't want to brag. I don't want to rub it

1024
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 3: in on Wellington. I don't want to make Wellington feel

1025
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: bad that the Phoenix are still getting thumped by us

1026
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: and we only just started. We're have it played six

1027
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: games and we're beating the Phoenix and the Phoenix have

1028
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: been around for such a long time. I don't want

1029
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: to rub it in. But it happened again, didn't it.

1030
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: And they were feeling so confident and did you see

1031
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: what happened on the field where mate Rufer the captain,

1032
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: started kicking one of the Auckland players. Such was his frustration.

1033
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: The thing has gone from being like a little bit

1034
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: of friendly banter to actually being quite intensely competitive. So

1035
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: we have a chat to the commentary box and I

1036
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: run you through some of the numbers, just to rub

1037
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: it in a little bit more, which I don't want

1038
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: to do. Run you through some of the numbers about

1039
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: how awesome Auckland FC are actually stand by for that.

1040
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: Twenty two away from eight we go a year for

1041
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby. Hasn't it both on and off the field.

1042
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: We've got the new coach, new players, new markets, new challenges,

1043
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: new controversies. Next year is looking to be no different

1044
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: because the board is going to be revamped and obviously

1045
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 3: sky Deal is still waiting to be signed. New Zealand

1046
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: Rugby CEO Mark Robinson is with us for the final

1047
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: chat this year.

1048
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 14: Mark.

1049
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm well, thank you. Now listen tell give me,

1050
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: tell me the honest truth. How are you feeling about

1051
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: that hacker?

1052
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 8: Now? We are we We're sorry, were the hacker? You've

1053
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 8: you've you've lost me. We're through through the tours?

1054
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: Oh are you? Are you sort of like, which are

1055
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: you doing? That thing where I say the hacker and

1056
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: you go, which hocker are you talking about?

1057
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: Was incredible right through the India tour, Mark, Well, you

1058
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 8: know I'm talking about performed. Was was a real talking

1059
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 8: point right through the tour. So yeah, you'll have to

1060
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 8: forgive me, okay, So I'll.

1061
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: Just paint the picture for you. So the very last

1062
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: hacker of the tour was the hacker where TJ did

1063
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: the little the little totalk all to the he coy.

1064
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about that one?

1065
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 8: Oh? Well, I mean we we were really at the time.

1066
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 8: I think Scott and Scott supposed spoke to that in

1067
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 8: the aftermath of the of the match. It was fantastic

1068
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 8: you know, TJ had the opportunity to go out in

1069
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 8: his final final match. He obviously did the call of

1070
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 8: the of the hacker, and you know, it was great

1071
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 8: to see both him and Sam go out on a

1072
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 8: match in a new market like that, and Turin well

1073
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: sort of I guess supported by the team. Yeah.

1074
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Cool. So if somebody came to you, if one of

1075
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: your players came to you again and was like, hey,

1076
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: there's this really controversial thing happening in New Zealand, I

1077
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: want to do a hacker and support one side, would you.

1078
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, go for it.

1079
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 8: Look, we're working at the moment here. It is, you know,

1080
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 8: all sorts of things you've talked before about trends and

1081
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 8: things happening in the sport. This is a fantastic sort

1082
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 8: of evolution to the sport where you know, we're working

1083
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 8: with athletes who want to use their platform to have

1084
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 8: views on things and our role is to balance that.

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Speaker 3: With Seriously, though, do you not think that there was

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Speaker 3: anything wrong with that because the country is split on

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Speaker 3: this right, So all that happens is a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of rugby fans got really annoyed.

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Speaker 8: You know, It's a beautiful thing about sport and a

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00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 8: lot of things that we do, we're opening. We've been

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Speaker 8: very clear that we're open to a huge amount of scrutiny,

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Speaker 8: and that's often the case with many things that happened

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Speaker 8: our sports. So you're a fear a few of them

1094
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Speaker 8: in the intro, so you know, we work through it

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Speaker 8: at the time. We've got a huge amount of things

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Speaker 8: that we're looking forward to in the new year, and

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Speaker 8: we're getting on with.

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Speaker 3: Say, let's say that one of your future Hucker leaders

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Speaker 3: comes to you and is like, do you know what

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Speaker 3: I love David Seymore's treaty principles, Bill, I want to

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Speaker 3: hucker and support a that would you be cool with that?

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Speaker 8: Well, those things have worked through and the team heater

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Speaker 8: and as Scott and Scott both spoke to in the

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Speaker 8: aftermath of the in the Italian game, so we're broadly

1105
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Speaker 8: across you know, the conversations that happened there. But that's

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Speaker 8: that's for the All Blacks, the players, the team management

1107
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Speaker 8: to work through and we know they have great conversations

1108
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 8: about that and they really open and honest I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: That you guys are taking an open minded approach to

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Speaker 3: this because I feel like it. Honestly, it wounds so

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00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 3: many people up so badly. You'd be better off staying

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Speaker 3: out of politics, don't.

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Speaker 8: You think, Well, broadly, you know, we we we tend

1114
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 8: to but we've we've got to recognize that this is

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Speaker 8: a really interesting time across the country. You know, there's

1116
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Speaker 8: lots of different views on this, and this is a

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Speaker 8: matter that was worked through with the team. And as

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Speaker 8: I say, there's not too much more to say about

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Speaker 8: at the stage.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is there going to be something to say about

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Speaker 3: it at a later stage, Well.

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Speaker 8: Let's see. We'll get I think everyone needs to get

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Speaker 8: to the beach for a Well, we'll see what happens

1124
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Speaker 8: in the new January.

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Speaker 3: Were looking forward? Okay, hey, listener, you're going to let

1126
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Speaker 3: raise a pick some players overseas.

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Speaker 8: I look, we've been really clear on this too heither,

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Speaker 8: so we're you know, we remain open minded. But at

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Speaker 8: the same time, we are very very comfortable with the

1130
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 8: policy we have in place at the moment. We are

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00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: comfortable that the players are really clear on it and

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Speaker 8: their representatives and there's flexibility within the system we have

1133
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 8: at the moment to be able to look at the

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00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 8: sabbatical type initiatives. So there's something that's This is something

1135
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 8: that's always reviewed from time to time, but at the

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 8: moment where we're very it's very comfortable with where it sits.

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Speaker 3: Have you got Richie Mulwanga back yet?

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Speaker 8: As Look, we don't speak on matters around you know,

1139
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Speaker 8: player contracting publicly, so so I probably can't ads to

1140
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Speaker 8: that one to your to your liking either.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Now what's going on with the French? Because they

1142
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: have been bits of dicks, aren't they? They don't want

1143
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: to come and play against us in the US. They're

1144
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: sending the B squad and they won't even wear the

1145
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: right catch when we play against them. What's up?

1146
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 8: Look, we've had some really good conversations with the French

1147
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 8: in recent times. I was obviously there, spent quite a

1148
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 8: signilic amount of time in November. Look, I think we'll

1149
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Speaker 8: have to wait and see as to what the team.

1150
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 8: As they said, it will depend on the final of

1151
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 8: their domestic leagues, but we know it will be incredibly

1152
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 8: strong teams strong.

1153
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? It's a bee squad?

1154
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 8: Well it won't be. No, I'm sorry, it won't be

1155
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 8: a B squad. And if you look at the trend

1156
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 8: of the player depths in France at the moment and

1157
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 8: where their twenties have come from. They might be without

1158
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 8: Summer they're more well renowned players. But I'll certainly have

1159
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 8: a very strong team.

1160
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Speaker 3: And have they put the kibosh on playing that match

1161
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: in the US?

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Speaker 8: Have they they went in favor of it? So we

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 8: you know, we obviously wanted to explore the opportunity. We

1164
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Speaker 8: hadn't finalized where we were at with that game either,

1165
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Speaker 8: but it would been good to have the options. So so, yes,

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 8: they haven't been in favor. I see they've come out

1167
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 8: and talked about that publicly, but you know, we just

1168
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 8: have to move on. I mean, it's huguely exciting that

1169
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 8: we're going to get sex domestic test matches in New Zealand,

1170
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Speaker 8: South Africa, France, so you know, two of the top

1171
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Speaker 8: four teams in the world and in Australia for a

1172
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 8: traditionally massive letters though, So look, we're moving on with

1173
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 8: that and it'd be great to have all those games

1174
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Speaker 8: played a cosss on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, very very quickly, you're going to get that Sky

1176
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: deal signed by the end of the year.

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Speaker 8: Well, working on it. But you know, I said there's

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00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 8: a bit of media speculation over over the weekend. You know,

1179
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 8: we don't. We don't tend to sort of engage in

1180
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 8: that sort of stuff. But yeah, we're working really constructively

1181
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 8: at the Sky and we'll keep things moving.

1182
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Speaker 3: How the book's looking. You got any money.

1183
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 8: Whatsippe? The books are the box? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1184
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 8: we're we're going. Okay, thanks for checking in on that.

1185
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm checking in on it because once you sign that

1186
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: deal with Sky, it's going to be a lot lower

1187
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Speaker 3: than it was last time.

1188
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Speaker 8: Oh again, you know, we don't. We don't comment on

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Speaker 8: what we read in the paper.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like I know more about what's going

1191
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: on than you do sometimes the way you want to

1192
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: dodge these questions.

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00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 8: Oh no, you might mean overall, we're really happy for you.

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00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 8: The came dead here that you know, we've had a

1195
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Speaker 8: really positive if you look at community game, if you

1196
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 8: want to talk about any of that stuff, it'd be

1197
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Speaker 8: great to talk about the positive stuff, but I understand

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00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 8: it's not other stuff that sort of takes up people's mind.

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Speaker 8: But talk about what you want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you make a very good point. We

1201
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: do actually need to talk about the community game at

1202
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 3: some stage because it is really important. Mark listen, thanks

1203
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: very much, Go and have a lovely summer break and

1204
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas you and in your family. That's Mike Robinson,

1205
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby CEO. It's fourteen away from eight.

1206
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Speaker 2: The Asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeart Radio

1207
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know that New Zealand Rugby has read

1209
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: the room on this one. Whether that was awful not

1210
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: your fault, but we learned nothing about what's going on.

1211
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Speaker 3: Heather Robinson's out of touch with the country's view. The

1212
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: Test Arena is not the place to air politics. Hither

1213
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: an entire interview. Hands hasn't answered a single question, to

1214
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: be fair, he did actually answer the question, to be

1215
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: fair to him. We now know that the French did

1216
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: turn down the US exhibition match, and that the US

1217
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: exhibition match was going to happen, and that was all

1218
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: just reportedly beforehand. So we've got that at least, Mark,

1219
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: you've lost my all black support.

1220
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Speaker 8: Hither.

1221
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be watching the pre match Hucker anymore.

1222
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: Get we might get more answers interviewing a rugby play

1223
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: here Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I feel as

1224
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: if they Yeah, I feel like the problem is they

1225
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: just either that pretending that that the Hucker wasn't as

1226
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: big a deal as it was, or they don't realize

1227
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Speaker 3: that the Hucker's as big a deal as it was

1228
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: and it was a big deal. And I think I'm

1229
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: not entirely shure which way I go on this one,

1230
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: whether they're pretending or whether it's real. Because remember, Wellington

1231
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: is where they're based, right, So these guys, I'm assuming

1232
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: Mark lives in Wellington because the head quarters are in Wellington,

1233
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: and Wellington is like another planet if.

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Speaker 14: You go there.

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Speaker 3: This is why we've got all these problems with the

1236
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: press gallery and stuff in Wellington. They will get together

1237
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: and they have their little court at all with each

1238
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: other about oh look at the David team or yuck

1239
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: the treaty principals bill yuck, yack, yuck, and they wind

1240
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: themselves up into it and I'm not always sure that

1241
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: they listen to what anybody else thinks, and so genuinely

1242
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: quite surprised that there might be people who have a

1243
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: completely different point of view. Anyway, see how it goes

1244
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: because he dropped the hint, didn't he that something might

1245
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: be coming. I would be very surprised. I take a

1246
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: bit with you. Nothing like that happens in the near future.

1247
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: Ever again, I suspect once they've done the numbers on

1248
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: it nine away from mate.

1249
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Speaker 2: Ever Ellen on the mic asking breakfast, it's when the

1250
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: range Rover Villa use Tom tadv.

1251
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: Commentary boxes with us after eight it sticks away from eight.

1252
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: Right now, and listen, Joe Biden has just given a

1253
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: statement on Syria and seems to be taking credit at

1254
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 3: the moment for the fall of Assard.

1255
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Speaker 22: It's a moment of historic opportunity for long stuff people

1256
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 22: of Syria to build a better future for the proud country.

1257
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 22: It's also a moment of risk and uncertainty as we

1258
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 22: all turn into question of what comes next the United States.

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Speaker 1: We'll work with our.

1260
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 22: Partners and the stakeholders in Syria TELP them seize an

1261
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 22: opportunity to manage the risks. You know, for years, the

1262
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 22: main back of the facade have been Iran, Hesbalah and Russia.

1263
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Speaker 22: But over the last week their support collapsed, all three

1264
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 22: of them, because all three of them are far weaker

1265
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 22: today than they were when I took office.

1266
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all him. And if you're like, whoop,

1267
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: is it actually thought? No, no, not all him.

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00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 22: Our approach has shifted the balance of power in the

1269
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 22: Middle East. This combination of support for our partners, sanctions, diplomacy,

1270
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 22: and targeted military forcement necessary. We now see new opportunities

1271
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 22: opening up for the people of Syria and for the

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Speaker 22: entire region.

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: Yes, all good. And look, if you're worried about security

1274
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: in the region, because things are kind of falling apart

1275
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: in various places in the Middle East, it's well, just

1276
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: looking a little bit like what was the statement, don't worry,

1277
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: it's taken steps.

1278
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 22: We're cleared eyed about the fact that ISIS will try

1279
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 22: to take advantages of the vacuum to re establish this

1280
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 22: capabilities and to create a safe haven. We will not

1281
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 22: let that happen. In fact, just today US first conducted

1282
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 22: dozen of precision strikes air strikes within Syria target NISUS

1283
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Speaker 22: camps and ISIS operatives.

1284
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Speaker 3: Wow, no one's going to miss him, are they? No,

1285
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: one's absolutely not. Anyway, Merry Christmas to us that we

1286
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: don't have to listen to too many of those press

1287
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: conferences anymore, really quickly, because this is a big day

1288
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: for the Tata fans just want to mention this. We

1289
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: are about roundabout I reckon, twelve hours away from the

1290
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: very last Taylor Swift concert in the Eras tour. The

1291
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: Era's tour is obviously the big one, like it actually

1292
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: bears mentioning because this tour has broken so many records.

1293
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: It's had one hundred and forty nine show those fifty

1294
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: three different cities, more than ten million fans have attended.

1295
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: They raked in about two billion dollars in USD, right,

1296
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: two billion, that's three and a half hours, two billion

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Speaker 3: in USD and ticket sales alone. When they broke a billion,

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Speaker 3: they were the first tour to break a billion, and

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Speaker 3: then they doubled it as well. That's how successful this

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Speaker 3: thing has been going. Started in March last year, will

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Speaker 3: end in about twelve hours time in Vancouver, Canada. So

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Speaker 3: our tonight, our time. The question, of course is what

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Speaker 3: does she do next? I mean, this is if you

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Speaker 3: this is obviously a career high point for her because

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Speaker 3: it's basically a bloomer musical high point for the entire world.

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Speaker 3: So how on earth is she going to go and

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Speaker 3: top this? Everybody waits to see so anyway, there we

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Speaker 3: go be the end of an era. Enjoyed that too,

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Speaker 3: can It'll come there?

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Speaker 23: Commentary box next, setting the news agen and digging into

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Speaker 23: the issues here then do for Cea Ellen on the

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Speaker 23: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way,

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Speaker 23: news Togs, dead Beings, sprung room.

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Speaker 18: No.

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Speaker 8: One comes.

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Speaker 1: Both taking farm storming, brilliant game.

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Speaker 24: Of football, electric bloom in the Derby, checks.

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Speaker 1: On the Mount, the upland scene of Saldy.

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Speaker 2: He's gone and New Zealand have been soundly veden at

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Speaker 2: the Basin Reserve.

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Speaker 1: England's went by three hundred and twenty three.

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Speaker 25: Runs and there's going to be yellow flags at the

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Speaker 25: start of the backstreet. But it's now clear a thing

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Speaker 25: as laws has been moved out of the way, and

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Speaker 25: that which is why Liam Lawson stuffed. Lando Norris is

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Speaker 25: making his way towards turned nine as loss car rolls

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Speaker 25: out of any danger and for the first time since

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Speaker 25: nineteen ninety eight McLaren I've Constructor Champions because Lando Norris

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Speaker 25: takes the Teckerd flag.

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Speaker 2: The Monday Morning commentary box on the Mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 2: over fifty years.

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Speaker 3: And as pern the commentary box, we have Guy have

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Speaker 3: Elton Andrew Savill, lads. Good morning to you both.

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Speaker 8: Well yeah, now were you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you listen. I'll start with you on this one, SEV.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Has Liam Lawson fluffed or what?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 24: I don't think so, I just sing you about this

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Speaker 24: before actually just watching a bit of the race this morning.

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Speaker 24: Not his fault that the pit crew didn't check his

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Speaker 24: wheel on properly, and not his fault that his engine

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Speaker 24: gave way on the last lap. So I think he

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Speaker 24: was driving quite He was seventh rate at one stage

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Speaker 24: before having to pit.

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Speaker 19: We'll go into the pits.

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Speaker 24: I would be surprised if he isn't at least in

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Speaker 24: that Racing Balls car next year and still all still

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Speaker 24: possibly in that red ball the top ten, even.

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Speaker 3: Though a text came through earlier today and made the

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Speaker 3: point that Sonoda has been fastest in both the qualifying

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Speaker 3: and the racing, so based on that both of those,

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Speaker 3: he deserves the promotion.

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Speaker 24: Well, the last couple of races he has been, but

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Speaker 24: Lawson has been faster than him as well on a

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Speaker 24: few other races as well, So yeah, i'd I'd still

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Speaker 24: bat Lawson to be there next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 1: Guy?

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Speaker 21: You're right around qualifying particularly. I think that's one area

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Speaker 21: where maybe Lawson needs to improve a little bit. But

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Speaker 21: you've got to remember that uk Sonoda has been in

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Speaker 21: that car and in Formula one for a lot longer

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Speaker 21: than Liam Lawson has, and Lawson isn't isn't miles behind

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Speaker 21: him and on occasion has beaten him pretty convincingly. Look,

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Speaker 21: William's in a not a great car, I don't think.

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Speaker 21: And I think if he does get that opportunity to

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Speaker 21: go and perform in the red bull seat alongside a

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Speaker 21: staff and I think he'll do a lot better than

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Speaker 21: Sergio Pires has been doing, as would Yuki Sonoda probably,

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Speaker 21: but I think William has probably shown enough that he

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Speaker 21: does deserve their chance.

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Speaker 1: Was it sad?

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Speaker 3: Was it you who was telling me last time I

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Speaker 3: was in for Mike that that Liam gets paid really

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Speaker 3: poorly in the role that he is.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, he does.

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Speaker 24: I think he'd be getting paid a bit better at

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Speaker 24: the moment, but pretty much up until now he's he

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Speaker 24: hasn't been paid. A lot of his expenses are covered

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Speaker 24: right from race to race. But salary wise, he's certainly

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 24: not on the step or noris or gimal money.

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Speaker 3: Let's say he gets the seats, like he's what do

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Speaker 3: you mean not on their money?

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Speaker 8: Is he has?

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Speaker 3: He even cracked a HUNDI found.

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Speaker 8: What was that?

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Speaker 24: One hundred thousand? Yeah, my understanding was that previously it

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Speaker 24: was only about that.

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Speaker 3: What he's doing that's remarkable. Does he if he gets

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Speaker 3: the seat next year, does he get a bump up?

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Speaker 21: Then I'd understand.

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Speaker 24: And if he gets that full time drive and either

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Speaker 24: team next year, then he would get a half decent salary.

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Speaker 24: Have still not on the type of money that the

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Speaker 24: big guns are on, the top stars are on. And

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Speaker 24: he still has private backers and private sponsors assisting him

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Speaker 24: as well of the off the track you know, expenses

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Speaker 24: are paid for it each race. Obviously doesn't have to

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Speaker 24: pay for his own hotel on that, but it's it's

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Speaker 24: still it is still a grind to get into a

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Speaker 24: powerful position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, at least he's getting the cool gears

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Speaker 3: then given to him as well. Now, guy, what happened

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01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: with the black Caps? I mean I thought, first of all,

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Speaker 3: we weren't catching then we started catching, but then something

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Speaker 3: else went wrong.

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Speaker 21: Well, I thought if they improved their fielding they would

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Speaker 21: be a chance of affording the tests. They did improve

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Speaker 21: their fielding. Their fielding was probably the best part of

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Speaker 21: their gat him in this test. Sadly they couldn't bat

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Speaker 21: and I've heard people, you know, playing the bowling and say, well,

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Speaker 21: why didn't they drop Saudi and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 21: Look turns out he's not going great. But the fact

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Speaker 21: of the matter is they're batting costs. In that game,

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Speaker 21: they got England out for two hundred and eighty and

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Speaker 21: having put England in, they probably wanted get them out

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Speaker 21: for slightly less. But the problem was they got Bold

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 21: out for one hundred and twenty five. And you're never

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Speaker 21: going to win a Test match when you get Bold

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Speaker 21: out for one and twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Guy like you don't think that Salvi's a problem.

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Speaker 21: Well, if he was going to go any longer, I

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Speaker 21: would say that he you know, his place in the

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01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 21: team probably should be questions. But the fact is he's

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Speaker 21: got one test remaining. What's the point now, especially now

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Speaker 21: that they've lost the series.

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Speaker 24: Well, now that they've lost the series, do you do

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Speaker 24: you make changes in the top water guy. Do you

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Speaker 24: bring Will Young and do you get rid of one

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Speaker 24: or two? But we're clearly out of form.

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Speaker 21: I think you have to as I was about to say,

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Speaker 21: Devin Conway is so grossly out of form at the moment.

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 21: And yes, we know the talent of Devin Conway, but

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 21: you can't just keep putting him in when he's getting

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 21: single figure, low double figure scores. You've got to try

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 21: something else. Will Young was excellent in India. I'm not

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Speaker 21: sure whether Will Young is the guy that you want

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Speaker 21: to put in as an hope. He's better at say that.

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Speaker 14: Three to four role.

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Speaker 21: But Kane Williamson's always going to be number three, right

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01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 21: and Revendra is now always going to be number four.

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 21: But if Will Young's inform, you've got to find a

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 21: place for him. And at the moment Devin Conway's not performing,

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01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 21: I've heard people say that, you know, Kane Williamson rut

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01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 21: and Revender should have opened. Well, that's just got to

1447
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 21: stop right now, because that's just ridiculous. So you've got

1448
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 21: to find someone else at the moment. To Devin Conway,

1449
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 21: he's a great player. He's just got to find form again.

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 21: But you just cannot afford to be putting Kane Williamson

1451
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 21: in sometimes Rutter and Revender in so less than thirty

1452
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 21: runs already one or two look its down?

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01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: Did you see sav Tim Salvey when he got bold?

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01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 3: Was it LBW and he decided to review it and

1455
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: was just a bad sport? Did you see that?

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 21: Yeah?

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01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 8: Well I've seen little bits of it.

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, odd call?

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you'd call like you call I'm out with.

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 24: Well, actually there's actually been some very odd review calls

1461
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 24: in the last couple of tests, primarily from the black

1462
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 24: We need to sort that out. The other thing, the

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 24: intriguing thing is that it just seems as though the

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01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 24: selectors or the selection team are very slow to pull

1465
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 24: the trigger on some players and use Cricket's a funny

1466
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 24: old game where you're in bad form and then one

1467
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 24: in things you can click.

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Speaker 8: It's very cut through.

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Speaker 24: But I just don't think clearly New Zealand has the

1470
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 24: depth to start chopping and changing all the time. But

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Speaker 24: doesn't it seem like a lifetime ago that they were

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Speaker 24: beating India. How do you explain that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Well, can you explain the guy?

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Speaker 21: I can't really explain it. But what I would say

1475
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 21: is that I do I do feel like and maybe

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 21: this is a bit harsh, but I do feel like

1477
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 21: a lot of the glass has now been taken off

1478
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 21: that India three Nail series. I mean, you can't come

1479
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 21: home and then lose potentially three nails to England and still.

1480
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 21: I mean there have been conversations that the black Cats

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Speaker 21: go and win the Halberg Award. Well, I'm sorry that

1482
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 21: that to me now can't happen if they then go

1483
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 21: and lose three nails in England and.

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: Harsh, I'm on board with the guy. You you should

1485
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: probably be doing the selection and helping them out the

1486
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: way that they go. We'll take a quick break, come

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: back to you, guys shortly.

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Speaker 2: Caughdter to the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: Talks b It's coming up eighteen past eight the.

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Speaker 2: Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for over

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Speaker 2: fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, now, I don't want to guy have Elton

1495
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: Andrews Saville obviously with us. I don't want to rub

1496
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: it in too much with the Wellington Phoenix. But how

1497
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 3: awesome are Auckland f C.

1498
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 8: Are you I thought you were a Phoenix.

1499
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 14: Hold on a minute, No, no, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I like to back winners. So I've coming hard with

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: Auckland f C.

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Speaker 8: And I have you'll be at the Warriors, nicky.

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: I've done the lily and you know what, you'll love

1504
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: this as well.

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Speaker 8: I was.

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I was with the Warriors until they

1507
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: started losing this season. Then I just abandoned the.

1508
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 21: Most and you were gone, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now you're

1509
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 21: a pinion of fan.

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 24: No, you've you've fit it into the Auckland lifestyle. Well,

1511
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 24: then look what they've done. I mean, we've we've spoken

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 24: about this every week. We're winning streak to begin lights.

1513
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Speaker 24: But the crowd was superb on on Saturday. The game

1514
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 24: was very entertaining and had some real niggel and bite

1515
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 24: in it. I thought it was a fantastic sporting day

1516
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 24: all round.

1517
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: But what do you make I mean, is it getting

1518
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: a bit hard out if we're starting to kick players

1519
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 3: while they're on the ground.

1520
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, I did see that and I thought there was

1521
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 21: a bit much, But that's that's rivalry. That's what you

1522
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 21: want in a Darby, I suppose and say I have

1523
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 21: mentioned that the crowd was absolutely phenomenal. That was one

1524
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 21: of the highlights of the sporting weekend for me, and

1525
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 21: people who have listened to the segment for a while

1526
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 21: will know that I'm not the biggest football fan, but

1527
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 21: for me to say that that was one of the

1528
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 21: highlights of the weekend I think shows that it was

1529
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 21: just an amazing sporting occasion. I think what Awkland you

1530
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 21: See brought to it, and you've got to credit the

1531
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 21: Phoenix as well, because they've been doing the leg work

1532
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 21: in New Zealand now for a few years. But Auckland

1533
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 21: and See have come into it and get consistently big

1534
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 21: crowds from the start they have, and that I thought

1535
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 21: the fact was one of the fact that says that

1536
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 21: it wasn't a pro I think the fact that it

1537
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 21: wasn't a pro team either in Auckland for what was

1538
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 21: it seventeen years that people have been started that type

1539
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 21: of football.

1540
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 24: Yet you've got to win. There's nothing like winning to

1541
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 24: create fan base and support. But what they've done so

1542
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 24: far with the setting up of the team, it's been

1543
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 24: it's been very quick. The Warriors had three or four

1544
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 24: years too, or two or three years to get ready

1545
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 24: to go, and this team's had what ten months I think.

1546
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 24: But look, there was a bit of bite and niggle

1547
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 24: between the players. There was a bit of niggle between

1548
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 24: the management the coaches that they've.

1549
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 8: Created a rivalry rivalry already.

1550
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 24: After a couple of months, which it really isn't manufactured.

1551
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 24: It's it's it's happened and it's great to see for sport.

1552
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, actually i've been I'm apart from the kicking,

1553
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 3: which guy sounded awful. Lot like you were like, that's cool.

1554
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: I like that a guy while he's down.

1555
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 6: It.

1556
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 21: It wasn't a full boat to the head was It

1557
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 21: was just a little do I.

1558
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 3: Mean, it's just a little in the ribs.

1559
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1560
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 21: He don't want to see it every week, but it's

1561
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 21: a fire, don't mind it.

1562
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: I loved it. Hey, did you see sav that kid

1563
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: over in Australia running in Queensland?

1564
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1565
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 14: I know, gout goutut gout doutcout.

1566
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1567
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean that kid is fast. Here's the question though,

1568
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: here's the question. If he is, If gout gout is

1569
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 3: faster at sixteen or seventeen, then Usain Bolt. Does he

1570
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: necessarily become a Usain Bolt? Always he peaked too early.

1571
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 24: Ah, look, it's not automatic. Obviously, there's a long way

1572
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 24: to go before he starts beating Bolts world records and

1573
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 24: other world records one hundred and two hundred. But he's

1574
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 24: he's a similar physique. He's very tall and lean, isn't

1575
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 24: he compared to Usain Bolt? But gee whiz the kid

1576
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 24: to move.

1577
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: I would have if I was, if I was in

1578
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: the pack, which is literally everybody else behind Gout gout,

1579
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: I would have been gutted at that stage A because

1580
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 3: there was just there was there was daylight between everybody.

1581
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 8: He was gone. He was gone. Yeah, yeah, certainly one

1582
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 8: to look out for it.

1583
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: Ye, explain something to me really quickly about what's going

1584
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: on with France. Why are they being dicks with us

1585
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: with the all blacks? With who the all black?

1586
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: Why?

1587
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 21: Around around the tests?

1588
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: No?

1589
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 21: Why why do we continue to take big tests like

1590
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 21: that to America. I can understand taking a game against

1591
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 21: America or something like that to the States and promoting that,

1592
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 21: but this has got to stop.

1593
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: When it's the French be squad, who cares it's France?

1594
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 21: France tests are outstanding Ireland the same. Why do we

1595
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 21: play them in America. I'm sick of that, and but

1596
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 21: I want to end this on a positive note because

1597
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 21: I feel like I've been a bit negative this morning.

1598
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 21: Jason McDonald suit I've mentioned him a couple of times

1599
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 21: on this show, and I've mentioned that he should be

1600
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 21: in the running for the Hell Works Well. On last

1601
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 21: night in Hong Kong at Shartan arguably one of the

1602
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 21: biggest race days in the world, he goes and win

1603
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 21: back to back group ones. Yes, Romantic Warriors with super

1604
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 21: Horse and many jockeys could have gone on home and won,

1605
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 21: but James McDonald is an absolute machine. Not long ago

1606
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 21: we were talking about him winning his one hundredth group one.

1607
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 21: I think he's already up to one hundred and six

1608
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 21: or something like that. He's on absolute fire and he

1609
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 21: has to be considered for the Hell Work War.

1610
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 3: Good from you. Actually, I've got a text on him earlier,

1611
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 3: so I'm glad you raised it. Guys, Thank you very much, appreciated, guy,

1612
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 3: Guy have Elt Andrew Savill Commentary, Box eight twenty three.

1613
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: Heather Dupersy Allen on the My Costing Breakbert with Bailey's

1614
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: real estate news talks there.

1615
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: Be hey twenty six past eight, Heather, there's only one

1616
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: person that's going to win the Hallbergs this year and

1617
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: that's Lydia. Question for you, though, does Lulu soon qualify

1618
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 3: for the Halbergs because she now plays as in New Zealander?

1619
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: This is you know who I'm talking about. This is

1620
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: a tennis player who's done really well at Wimbledon and stuff,

1621
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: who's playing for Switzerland now plays for US now. The

1622
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: reason I wanted to raise her with you, so that

1623
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: was a really excellent way of segueing into that is

1624
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: because Apropos Goutgut, who is the the kid in Queensland

1625
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: who now runs faster than Yousain Bolt and whether he's

1626
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: peaking too early. Just because you're awesome at something when

1627
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: you're a kid does not mean you're going to be

1628
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: awesome as a grown up. Because Lulu Soon gave an

1629
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 3: interview over the weekend just ahead of her playing at

1630
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: the ASB Classic this summer in Auckland, and she said

1631
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: she was so crappy at tennis when she was a

1632
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 3: kid because her sister was playing tennis, and so she

1633
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: started playing tennis to be like her sister. All the

1634
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: other kids her age were rallying. She couldn't even hit

1635
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: the ball. Her mum was like, oh, tennis is not

1636
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 3: for you. How wrong was her mum? Mom was like, oh,

1637
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: maybe you need to play golf something where you just

1638
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 3: stand still and hit the ball. Anyway, Mum couldn't be

1639
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: naffed because one's already playing tennis, so she was like, on, both,

1640
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: are you going to play tennis? And then look what happened.

1641
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: Old mate is now top fifty in the world, So

1642
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 3: there you go. Lesson is number one, it's okay to

1643
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 3: be a lazy mum and number two, just because you're

1644
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 3: good at something when you're a kid does not mean anything,

1645
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: and vice versa. News is next.

1646
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust Hanther duper Ce Ellen

1647
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa

1648
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: designed to intrigue and.

1649
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 3: Use togs deadb Hey, if this is your kind of thing,

1650
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 3: you might be interested to know that TV and Z

1651
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 3: looks like it's gonna have a pole out tonight.

1652
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: Now.

1653
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about the TV and Z poll this

1654
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 3: evening will be just to look basically, to look to

1655
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: confirm a couple of trends. So at the moment. What

1656
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: we've seen is the impact of the Hecoy and the

1657
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 3: Treaty Principal's debate has pushed up the Maori Party and

1658
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: pushed up the act Party. So parties on like the

1659
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 3: extremes of this debate they are winning, So see whether

1660
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: that is something that's born out with this pole. But also,

1661
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 3: and this is the thing I'm more interested in, is

1662
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: confirm the poll out last week now. Last week, just

1663
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: ahead of the Labour Party conference, there was a little

1664
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: pole which popped out and just was like oo hey, guys,

1665
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: Labour's ahead of National for the first time and forever

1666
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: and be interested to see and it was marginal stuff.

1667
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 3: It was like thirty two thirty one, so close you'd

1668
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: have to be a little bit really, So we'll have

1669
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 3: a look.

1670
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 12: At the truxing.

1671
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: Win's the election, I know.

1672
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: And the exciting thing as well is that it gives

1673
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: you a real lead up to know what it's going

1674
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: to happen in about two years. Yeah ah yeah. So,

1675
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 3: as I said, I will refer you to my previous comment.

1676
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: If it's your kind of thing, you'll be interested in,

1677
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 3: and the rest of us, well, it is my kind

1678
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: of thing for the rest of you just you can

1679
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 3: chill out and just just kind of close your eyes

1680
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: for about three minutes to have a quick nap and

1681
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 3: then carry on with the news. Twenty two Away from

1682
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 3: Name International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1683
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 3: Mind for New Zealand Business Deve Price, correspondent out of

1684
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: Australia with US Now. Hey, Steve, Hey, you have a

1685
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: good morning. Good morning to you. What's the latest with

1686
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,440
Speaker 3: the firebombing.

1687
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 14: Well, they still haven't found the two men, the two

1688
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 14: masks men that went into the Dath Israel Synagogue in

1689
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 14: Melbourne at about four point thirty in the morning on Friday.

1690
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 14: There's CCTV footage of them spreading accelerant around with a broom,

1691
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 14: but there's been no leads yet. Now this has obviously

1692
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 14: caused major political risks in the country. The Prime Minister's

1693
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 14: been in wa Western Australia since Friday. He gets back

1694
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 14: to the East Coast this morning, I think or overnight.

1695
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 14: He's been refusing for two days to call this an

1696
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 14: active terror. He finally did it at a media briefing

1697
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 14: yesterday and he's coming for widespread criticism, particularly from the

1698
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 14: Jewish community, that a that he stayed in wa and

1699
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 14: didn't come back to Melbourne and b that he refused

1700
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 14: to use the word terror. Well he finally did it.

1701
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 14: And when we talk shortly about a newsport you might

1702
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 14: work out why the synagogue itself had a new pictures

1703
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 14: released this morning. It's basically been gutted. There's not much

1704
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 14: left there Gutorian government's already pledged one hundred thousand dollars

1705
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,799
Speaker 14: to help rebuild the site, and they've had an online

1706
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 14: campaign raising funds that's raised about two hundred and eighty

1707
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 14: five thousand dollars. But when you see that excuse me,

1708
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 14: before and after pictures, it's quite extraordinary how much damage

1709
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 14: has been done. And the outcry right across the Jewish

1710
01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 14: community has been huge. Former Treasurer Josh Froedenberg, himself proud

1711
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 14: Melbourne jew has caught on the Prime Minister to stump

1712
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 14: up with some courage and call this out for what

1713
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 14: it is and it is a major blow to the

1714
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 14: Jewish community in that area. They think they can rebuild it. Luckily,

1715
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 14: they saved some ancient scrolls known as Tora. They managed

1716
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 14: to have them in a fire proof safe and they

1717
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 14: got them out of the synagogue before it was destroyed

1718
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 14: by fire. But it was a hell of a mess.

1719
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: Hey. Now this pole that you just mentioned, how bad

1720
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 3: is it? Felbon easy worst?

1721
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 14: Well, if you go to the question who's the preferred

1722
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 14: Prime Minister, Anthony Abnezi now trails badly to Peter Dutton.

1723
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 14: So Anthony Aberneze has dropped five points headed down to

1724
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 14: forty four preferred PM to Peter Dutton, who's sitting on sixty.

1725
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 14: Now that's the lowest score since news poll began in

1726
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Speaker 14: two thousand and eight. Measuring that actual question. Peter Dutton's

1727
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 14: got the high school since Tony Abbott ten years ago.

1728
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 14: And this is where it's really going to sting for

1729
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 14: Anthony Albanesi. And I mean you mentioned there that your

1730
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 14: election's not for a couple of years yet per way,

1731
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 14: the election in this country is probably going to be

1732
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 14: held in what will be held in the first quarter

1733
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 14: of next year latest can be May. But where most

1734
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 14: people are now thinking somewhere around February March. But Anthony

1735
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 14: Albanezi is considered less likable, less trusted, and less in

1736
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 14: touch and weaker and less decisive than Peter Dutton. How

1737
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 14: would you like to wake up? Heather and have your

1738
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 14: character assessed in that way on a Monday morning.

1739
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean if the shoe fits and the shoe fits, doesn't.

1740
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 14: It, Well, it does, and it hasn't been helped of course.

1741
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 14: And this pot was taken by the way prior to

1742
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 14: what happened on Friday at that synagogue. So it'd be

1743
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 14: even worse for him if they ask that question today.

1744
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 14: I think he'd dropped another five points, which is just

1745
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 14: you know, a disaster for Labor. And the thing about

1746
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 14: it is our system here now and this happened under

1747
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 14: Kevin Right. Labour can't change just change leader. I mean

1748
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 14: in the old days, what you could do is, you know,

1749
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 14: you could get someone on your front bench and decide,

1750
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 14: say very ambitious and they want to become prime minister.

1751
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 14: You could call on a spill of the numbers. But

1752
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 14: the Labor Party change that system whereby the leader is

1753
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,839
Speaker 14: now elected by both members of doctor wider labor community,

1754
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 14: so Labor Party members plus the members of Parliament, and

1755
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 14: so you can't just dump a leader out the door.

1756
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,959
Speaker 8: If they could do that, I reckon they would.

1757
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably Steve So in New Zealand, we've got the

1758
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 3: same rules of the Labor because the Labor Party thinks

1759
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: the same across the world. But there is a little

1760
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: period I think it might be about three months before

1761
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 3: the election where you can do with Jasinda and you

1762
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: can swap them out. You guys don't have that.

1763
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 8: I don't believe.

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01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 14: So I stand to be corrected on that, but I

1765
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 14: don't believe.

1766
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, well regretting that now probably, Hey, how much

1767
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 3: of these Woolies workers taking to end the strike.

1768
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 14: Well, it's taken weeks for it to happen. Willworth Is

1769
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 14: now say they're back up and running. I mean, you know,

1770
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 14: if you think about going into your local Woolworths, there

1771
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 14: was woolworthskets around Australia that had empty shell its, completely empty.

1772
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 14: It was like revisiting COVID. Remember when everyone ran in

1773
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 14: and panicked and started grabbing toilet rolls.

1774
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 8: That's what it was like.

1775
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 14: There was stuff that simply wasn't there. They now they

1776
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 14: say one hundred and eighty thousand cartons of product to

1777
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 14: be delivered across Victoria in the next week or so.

1778
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 14: And we were just two weeks out from Christmas when

1779
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 14: people were absolutely panicking. So these fifteen hundred starfeather went

1780
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 14: on strike on the twenty perst of November over low

1781
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 14: pay and the introduction of this system. I wonder if

1782
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 14: this happens in New Zealand where the system would automatically

1783
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 14: penalize slow employees. How does that work, you ask, Well,

1784
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 14: when you clock on to work in one of these warehouses,

1785
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 14: you put on a headset and that headset tells you

1786
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 14: which area to go to to start loading stuff up

1787
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 14: on a trolley to get distributed, and it times you

1788
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 14: so if you're slow at the end of your shift,

1789
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 14: it goes into a computer and presumably the boss of

1790
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 14: that distribution seneate, Well, Heather has not been great today.

1791
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 14: He has had a big weekend, she's been on the

1792
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 14: turfs over a Sunday and she's very slow today. We're

1793
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 14: going to have a bit of word to Heather, or

1794
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 14: otherwise she'd be out the door. Well, not surprising. The

1795
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 14: union weren't very happy about that, and so they have

1796
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 14: argued for a pay rise and for that practice to stop.

1797
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 14: The federal court ruled the strike action was illegal and

1798
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 14: that's why the centers have reopened the negotiations to end

1799
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 14: that practice is still underweight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that kind of stuff does happen here

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: Steve got on you thanks mate, have a nice day

1802
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 3: that Steve Price, Our Australia corresponds, Hey, by the way,

1803
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: sticking with Australia, there was supposed to be a Raygun

1804
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: musical last night. It was a stage show, was supposed

1805
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 3: to prempt You know who I'm talking about, the Breakdoanncer,

1806
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: You know the one who went to the Olympics and

1807
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: Darne not Breakdowncer, the one who's not actually a breakdownser

1808
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 3: who hopped around like a kangaroo and then slithered like

1809
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: a snake on the ground. It was awful. Anyway, to

1810
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: continue the theme with things being awful awful, There was

1811
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be a musical in Sydney last night, but

1812
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: it was shut down at the last like hours before

1813
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 3: the show actually kicked off the premiere by Raygun's lawyers,

1814
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 3: and they've put out a statement like they're not even

1815
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 3: ashamed of that. Yep, absolutely shut it down. The management

1816
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 3: has put out a statement saying we were committed to

1817
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: protecting her ip intellectual property and ensuring that her brand

1818
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: remains strong and respected. Now I'm bringing this to your

1819
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: attention because I feel like this an idea has taken

1820
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: hold here that Raygun is somehow a victim of online

1821
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 3: trolling after she did the hopping and the slithering and stuff.

1822
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: Just just be aware she's not right. She's not a

1823
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: victim here. She is milking it for all it's worth,

1824
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: and she is protecting her IP and making sure her

1825
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 3: brand remains strong and respected. And I would have liked

1826
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: to actually have seen this musical because there was a

1827
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: song entitled I would have won, but I pulled a

1828
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 3: muscle just how that works. I would have been keen

1829
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: to see eighteen. Oh no, what am I doing? Proper

1830
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: maths fourteen away from.

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Speaker 3: By that poll, Heather Act is not on the extreme

1834
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: of the debate. It is the debate, which actually is

1835
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: a very good point. Secondly, the current polls are absolutely

1836
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: no relevance at all to the twenty twenty six election.

1837
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 3: But it is about sending Nobles luxe and a message

1838
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: to read the room, which actually is a fair point

1839
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: as well, because it is an indicate gives us just

1840
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: an idea of how out of touch the National Party

1841
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: are on all these debates. Speaking of which, by the way,

1842
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: and This is so incredibly unscientific that I cannot, actually,

1843
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: with any with a straight face, tell you that I

1844
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: fully believe this, and yet there is a part of

1845
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: me that does believe this. Couple of couple of academics

1846
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: spoke to the papers over the weekend to try to

1847
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: explain what the hell's going on with Chris Luxin and

1848
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: why he's not popular. One of them, Mark Wilson of

1849
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 3: Victoria University, who has I'm trying to make him sound

1850
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 3: credible to you. He studied political preference in social psychology theory,

1851
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: so he knows what he's talking about. He reckons part

1852
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 3: of Christopher Luxen's problem is that he insists on us

1853
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: calling him Christopher Luxen as opposed to Chris Luxen. He

1854
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 3: reckons it's emotionally distance for voters. And he says, you

1855
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: don't call someone that you like Christopher, which is a

1856
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 3: fair point. You just call them Chris, don't you well

1857
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: tofa if you're call Tothah, but you know it's not

1858
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: Chris topher. But anyway, if they insist, it starts to

1859
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 3: get really weird, doesn't it. And that's kind of the

1860
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 3: space we're in with Chris lux and reckonste Mark Wilson

1861
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: from Victoria University, but apparently he does back it up

1862
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: with I had a completely unscientific theory for ages, which

1863
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: is that part of the reason that Chris luckxin would

1864
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: struggle was because he's a bald man, based on nothing

1865
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: at all, absolutely nothing, just just my reckons on that.

1866
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 3: I was just like, Nah, looks a bit you know,

1867
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: lex luthorish or something like that. But apparently baldness is

1868
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 3: not a bad thing for a leader like Chris Luckxon.

1869
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: Apparently it's a paradox that we generally find people with

1870
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: hair on their heads and I'm quoting Wilson again, more

1871
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: attractive and therefore should attribute fewer other positive characteristics to

1872
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: bald men. But in fact, for some weird reason, bald

1873
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: men can also be perceived as more masculine and dominant,

1874
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 3: which makes some good leaders.

1875
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 12: I mean, there's there's ball speaking as a ballman, there's

1876
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 12: bald man and men, and these bald men. I mean,

1877
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 12: you wouldn't say that Peter Dutton, for example, is a

1878
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 12: is a sex symbol, would you?

1879
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 8: Well?

1880
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So here's the thing this is, I have

1881
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: thought about this deeply, Glenning. You've now opened a can

1882
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: at wounds. Oh No, The difference between yourself and Peter

1883
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: Dutton that your elk is that you've gone bald and

1884
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: you've just given yourself a quick little trim right. You've

1885
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: just you've tidy that you've got You've got the horseshoe.

1886
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: But you're not polishing the horseshoe. But Luxeon's polishing that

1887
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: horse shoe, isn't he. He's polishing that dome he's making

1888
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: he is, he's pronounced. He's making a statement with his dome,

1889
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 3: which kind of it's a bit it's a bit sinister

1890
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 3: and a bit vain, and so I think there's the problem.

1891
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll just leave it at that. I don't

1892
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 3: want to get I'm starting to get into a different

1893
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 3: defamatory territory and we don't want to do that anyway.

1894
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: Best of luck to him, Christopher the ball Guy. Eight

1895
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 3: away from nine.

1896
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:55,000
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Speaker 3: Dead b Hey, very good point. Peter Dutton, He's gonna

1899
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 3: win the next election. He's a bullband, isn't he.

1900
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what That's what I was saying that we

1901
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 12: were talking about where the bard is sexy, and I

1902
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 12: don't think it's just universally sexy.

1903
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's absolutely not. It's Stanley Tuccy sexy.

1904
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 3: It's Vin Diesel sexy. It's not Danny DeVito sexy. Do

1905
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Peter definitely not Peter Dutton sexy.

1906
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 3: But I feel like Peter Dutton, if I just kind

1907
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: of go into the recesses of my mind, I feel

1908
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: like he bulls. He shines his bald one, doesn't he

1909
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: does he shine his bald one? I think he does.

1910
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 12: It is shiny.

1911
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 3: I think he polishes it up. So anyway, the point

1912
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: that Chris was making on the text is that no

1913
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: one liked Peter Dutton, the bald guy, until he started

1914
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: wearing glasses. That's what Luxon needs to do, either glasses

1915
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 3: or a cheeky little fuzzle on the lip, like something

1916
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: to change it up, or like that guy who does

1917
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 3: the dog and Lemon guy just grows some sideburns, like

1918
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: bald head, but with side burns.

1919
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: What if he started wearing like a cravat.

1920
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Or that, Yeah, he could, he could. I mean, that's

1921
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 3: starting to get a little pretentious which which feeds into.

1922
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 12: The crissking style shoes with like tassels and made of

1923
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 12: furra really draw the attention.

1924
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 3: One of those metal bangles that that Hoskin wears.

1925
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 12: And then when he came in for an interview, he

1926
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 12: could just put his feet up on the on the desk, Yes,

1927
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 12: and you'd be so distracted looking at the shoes you

1928
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 12: wouldn't notice.

1929
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 3: I think we should. I think he needs to hire us.

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Speaker 3: Five away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of IF one, as we have been all morning,

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Speaker 3: it was a really big day for Lewis Hamilton because

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Speaker 3: he had his final ever race in Mercedes, where he

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1936
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 3: seven World Championships. Now he leaves Mercedes after twelve years,

1937
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 3: heading to Ferrari next season, equalling Michael Schumacher with the

1938
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 3: most World championships ever. And these were his comments over

1939
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 3: the team radio for the final time, Louis bag.

1940
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 8: Lost the drive of a ward chap, Do.

1941
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 19: They got the drive of a world chapter?

1942
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 14: I mean, thanks C, How was that?

1943
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 8: No?

1944
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 10: He we dreamed alone, but together we believe and as

1945
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 10: a team, we achieved things. And thank you for all

1946
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 10: the courage, the determination, and the passion for seeing me

1947
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 10: and supporting me. Or started out as a leap of

1948
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 10: faith turned into the journey into the history books. So

1949
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 10: we did everything together, and I'm so so grateful to

1950
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 10: everyone got to hear back to fat treat from the

1951
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 10: bottom of my home on the best.

1952
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: We dreamed alone, but to begether we believed. I mean,

1953
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 3: you know what, now, he could also just take up

1954
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 3: poetry if he wanted to. Hey, by the way, actually

1955
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: the ball guy's in with us tomorrow, so we might

1956
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: ask him about it. Just see if he's you know,

1957
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: just keep it light ahead of Christmas. Just hit him

1958
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 3: with a little what if you make him cry though?

1959
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 8: By asking him that, you.

1960
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 3: Know what that would do for his polling? Straight up?

1961
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Speaker 14: Ay?

1962
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Speaker 3: Anyway, I have a nice day. See tomorrow.

1963
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