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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Hither

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 1: Youth Toll said, b.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you for the last Drive show that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be doing this year. Coming up today, we've got

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Speaker 2: David Seymore, the act Party leader, on whether the boot

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Speaker 2: camps need to be shut down. We've got news that

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Speaker 2: as many as forty five percent of NCAA students failed

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Speaker 2: this year's online literacy and numerousy tests. Will speak to

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Speaker 2: the principles about that and also try to get to

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the no male handbag situation at the

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Speaker 2: christ Church bar. Heather Duplicy Ellen right on the boot camps.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking at the headlines about the boot camp

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Speaker 2: trial today and these kids running away and one of

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Speaker 2: them dying in a car crash, and your immediate reaction

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Speaker 2: to this is to think, oh, that this is a

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Speaker 2: complete shambles, then I reckon you are looking at this

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Speaker 2: the wrong way. Same with labor. Labor today saying ah,

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Speaker 2: boot camps need to be shut down. They are looking

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Speaker 2: at this the wrong way. What we ask yourself for this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what were you actually exting? I mean, these kids who

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Speaker 2: go to boot camps are not average kids. They're not

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Speaker 2: like your kids, right, They're not the kind of kids

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Speaker 2: that you see just wandering around going to school and stuff.

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Speaker 2: These are really, really naughty kids, the kinds of kids

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Speaker 2: that most of us don't ever actually get to meet.

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Speaker 2: This boot camp trial is supposed to be as close

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Speaker 2: as possible to the final kind of format that the

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Speaker 2: boot camps are going to be running in, right, which

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Speaker 2: means that in order to qualify to go to a

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Speaker 2: boot camp, these kids have to have committed crimes that

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Speaker 2: and not just once, they have to have committed those

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Speaker 2: crimes twice, two crimes of up to ten years in jail.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about things like ram raids and car

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Speaker 2: theft and stuff like that. So these are really naughty

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Speaker 2: out the gate kids. Now, were you honestly expecting that

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Speaker 2: you're going to take ten naughty out the gate kids?

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Speaker 2: You're going to chuck them in a boot camp for

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Speaker 2: three months, and every single one of them is going

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Speaker 2: to come out the other side angelic and never doing

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Speaker 2: anything naughty again. If you were. You were completely dreaming,

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Speaker 2: and you need to get real. Flip the way that

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Speaker 2: you look at this. Unless these boot camps happened, unless

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Speaker 2: there was some intervention in these kids' lives, there was

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Speaker 2: a good chance that every single one of them, every

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Speaker 2: one of the ten, one hundred percent of them, would

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Speaker 2: end up reoffending over and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: So what we've got at the moment is a thirty

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Speaker 2: a car crash and two on the run. A thirty

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Speaker 2: percent failure rate is still an improvement on a one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent reoffending rate. Do you see what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And even if as a result of these boot camps,

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Speaker 2: in trying? That's not a failure, that's just carrying on

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Speaker 2: the way it was going to be anyway. As it stands,

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Speaker 2: these are the numbers. One of them actually has a job,

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Speaker 2: in education. Now that's an improvement on the way that

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Speaker 2: to us altogether. But at least we're trying. And if

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Speaker 2: we changed just one life because of a boot camp,

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Speaker 2: I think it's worth it, because the alternative is to

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Speaker 2: do for sea Alan nine two nine two is the

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Speaker 2: David Siema will be thus after five o'clock on this now.

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Speaker 2: Food Stuff, speaking of crime, food Stuffs reckon that their

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Speaker 2: facial recognition trial has been a success. Hey, they've been

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Speaker 2: running this thing for six months, been keeping an eye

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Speaker 2: They reckon, harm was reduced by sixteen percent and it

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Speaker 2: is Julian Benfield had Julian hi hever, is this about

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Speaker 2: what you were expecting?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was ultimately a trial to you to work

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Speaker 3: out whether social recognition technology could help keep our people

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Speaker 3: We've seen huge increases in retail crime and we felt

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Speaker 3: It was a genuine trial. We wanted to learn whether

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Speaker 3: we could use the technology safely to do so. We

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Speaker 3: now have the final report from the Child's Independent evaluator

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Speaker 3: who has found that facial recognition has reduced serious harm

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Speaker 3: in the trial stores by estimated sixteen percent and has

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Speaker 2: So with the nine who were misidentified, were all of

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Speaker 3: any misidentifications through this process, but unfortunately there were nine

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Speaker 3: situations where there was a misidentification. Out of the nine,

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Speaker 3: soon as we could. And in each of those situations,

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Speaker 3: and not a failure of the systems. We've apologized to

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Speaker 2: See one of them, the one that's based on ut

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Speaker 2: throu is going to fight you guys even further. Ah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably not something I can comment on at

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Speaker 3: an unfortunate situation, as has been widely reported previously. We've

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Speaker 2: Honest about it, right, Let's be honest about it. If

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Speaker 2: who shouldn't leave, it's probably worth it to stop one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, this was a genuine trial that we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens next? So are you guys, Do you

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Speaker 2: that with the Privacy Commissioner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So a couple of months ago, at the end

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Speaker 3: preliminary findings of an independent evaluator at that point in time.

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Speaker 3: At this stage, we're now waiting for the OPCs to

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Speaker 3: publish their public inquiry into our trial. We want to

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Speaker 2: So who gets to make the call as to whether

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Speaker 3: Well, as a business, we have felt that you know

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Speaker 3: do more about it. So we as a business made

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Speaker 2: So you guys get to say you can decide if

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we have decided to use it in

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Speaker 3: role of the OPC. We've worked constructively both before the

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are you going to do about this brown

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we are aware of that situation. I mean,

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Speaker 3: ultimately it is it is theft, but look, we trust

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Speaker 2: Noted the evidence would suggest that you shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Look, we haven't. We haven't noticed any unusual increase in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Julian listen, thanks very much, really appreciate

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Speaker 2: Stuff's in North Island. Heather ninety percent fail rate isn't

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Speaker 2: a success. Well it is, isn't it. It's more of

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Speaker 2: when the pregnant lady disappears for four days, it's generally

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Speaker 2: very very bad news about a pregnancy. You know that.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry with that. That that that none and none

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Speaker 2: normal COVID is like a nine, no it's not, actually

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Speaker 5: Oh, that sounds like it's approaching man flu levels here.

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Speaker 2: It is very in fact, it is very close to manfluence.

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Speaker 2: You will be able, so you will all the blokes

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Speaker 2: in the world now understand exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: England all out. I'm going to keep you posted with

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Speaker 2: color of the year. This is incredibly disappointing. Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Let's get connected that news talk said, be

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Speaker 2: We've learned to catch I went away for a week

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Speaker 7: How good I think that was? Is there a correlation here?

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Speaker 2: That'd be hey, Dan Mitchinson is gonna four twenty six.

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Speaker 2: The color of the year, okay, he was. Okay, if

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Speaker 2: Heather, I just looked up that pan tone color. It's

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Speaker 2: the NCEEA results. This year was the year where we

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Speaker 1: The world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: The hunt is still on for the man who assassinated

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Speaker 10: Here's a guy who never lets down his mask or

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Speaker 2: Fire, and finally mean one mister Grinch. A bear has

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Speaker 2: The family managed to get the Grinch back from the woods,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mitchinson correspondence with US Now, Hey Dan, Hey, Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 9: that the parent company of United Healthcare, which is the

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Speaker 9: largest insurance company that we have over here, was aware

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Speaker 9: of threats against this guy. And it's interesting because CEOs

436
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Speaker 9: have all types of security around them, and Thompson, as

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Speaker 9: we saw in this video that has been circulated right

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Speaker 9: now if you've seen it on social media, he was

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Speaker 9: out on his own with no security when this happened.

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Speaker 9: And so it's they're they're they're saying right now, because

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Speaker 9: this this shooter arrived early, before he was there, it

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Speaker 9: looks like there was some kind of surveillance going on

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Speaker 9: and he knew where to be at the exact place

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Speaker 9: at the exact time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. Now the reason that that what was written

446
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Speaker 2: on the casings is important is because he written he'd

447
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Speaker 2: written deny, defend, deposed delay, and the words delay, deny

448
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Speaker 2: defend are the title of a book A and the

449
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Speaker 2: book is why insurance companies don't pay claims and what

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Speaker 2: you can do about it.

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Speaker 9: Yes, So that's where they're kind of connecting everything right now,

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Speaker 9: I mean, and saying that you know this guy is

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Speaker 9: an assassin, yes, is he a professional? Probably not, because

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Speaker 9: you wouldn't do something like that. We've also got a

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Speaker 9: good shot of his face right now. We don't know

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Speaker 9: if this was before after the assassination, and they may

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Speaker 9: have some DNA samples too. There was a phone that

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Speaker 9: was found nearby. There was a water bottle found in

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Speaker 9: the scene that's shooting that may have belonged to the guy.

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Speaker 9: And they even think they have a fingerprint as well

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Speaker 9: that looks like it's pretty well. The fingerprint itself is

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Speaker 9: a little smeared, but you know, they're still working on

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Speaker 9: getting some out of the other items.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So some some pretty rooky mistakes, but then some stuff

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Speaker 2: that he did which makes him look like he might

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Speaker 2: have known what he was doing as well. Like he

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Speaker 2: he obviously had a jamming in his gun. First of all,

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Speaker 2: he surveyed the guy, knew that the guy was there,

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Speaker 2: and then his gun jammed and he did what's called

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Speaker 2: a tap wreck bang, which fixes up. So he's not

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Speaker 2: a no with a gun, is he.

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Speaker 9: No, he's not. And you look at that video on

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Speaker 9: you it's not something that you want to look at.

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Speaker 9: It's just it's hard not to because you look at

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Speaker 9: the guy and he looks very professional initially, and he

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Speaker 9: gives off a number of shots before the gun jams.

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Speaker 9: Like you said, he fixes that problem in a minute,

479
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Speaker 9: and he goes back and he does it again, and

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Speaker 9: then he you know, he takes off. There was one

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Speaker 9: witness right there who ran the other ways, and he

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Speaker 9: witness would at the time, and they're hoping that person

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Speaker 9: might be able to help identify that or maybe some

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Speaker 9: of the people that shared that hostel that you were

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Speaker 9: just talking about in the world wires.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how are you guys going after that quake?

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Speaker 9: I gotta tell you, Heather, I mean I didn't feel

488
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Speaker 9: I was right sort of in the middle of it.

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Speaker 9: It was up to the north of Sacramento. It was

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Speaker 9: felt hundreds of miles to the south, down in the

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Speaker 9: Bay Area in San Francisco, but because it was off

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Speaker 9: the coast here, there wasn't any serious damage. I mean,

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Speaker 9: this was a magnitude seven point zero, and I mean

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Speaker 9: there were five million people that were put under a

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Speaker 9: tsunami warning and that was eventually canceled. But that's something

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Speaker 9: that doesn't happen very often on the California coast. And

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Speaker 9: I mean, you had this quick ben inland or in

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Speaker 9: a more populated areas we've seen before in places like

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Speaker 9: Los Angeles and San Francisco. I mean, that could have

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Speaker 9: caused a heck of a lot of damage, and you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't even want to think about the number of

502
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Speaker 9: deaths too. But fortunately it was off the coast and

503
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Speaker 9: blew off some steam from the tectonic plates that we

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Speaker 9: have around here, so hopefully we won't have a bigger

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Speaker 9: one after this.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's this business with time limits on coverage and

507
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Speaker 2: for the anesthetic that you take if you have sugeri.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there was an anesthesiologists the insurance company

509
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Speaker 9: was planning to limit the amount of time it would

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Speaker 9: cover anesthesia used in surgeries and procedures. This was Anthem,

511
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Speaker 9: Blue Cross and Blue Shield, and they said, okay, we're

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Speaker 9: not We're going to halt this. You're going to have

513
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Speaker 9: a limited amount of time that you can do that.

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Speaker 9: After that, the patient's going to have to you know,

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Speaker 9: pay for anything additional. Well then a couple of hours ago, boom,

516
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Speaker 9: they did a complete U turn on this, and they're saying, Okay,

517
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Speaker 9: maybe this wasn't such a good idea. We were trying

518
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Speaker 9: to do this because we were trying to cut down

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Speaker 9: on the strain that providers and patients go through and

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Speaker 9: and a lot of the costs, and we thought this

521
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Speaker 9: would actually save money for some people. But oh, man,

522
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Speaker 9: did this Did this give him a black eye? I

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Speaker 9: mean this they said, this is a whole misunderstanding of

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Speaker 9: how things work. And no, it was just a really

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Speaker 9: bad decision by somebody that you know, at the upper

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Speaker 9: levels of management.

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Speaker 2: Right, Dan, So this is the last time I'm going

528
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Speaker 2: to talk to you for the year, because I've got

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Speaker 2: to the big dog, the HOSK. Yeah, he's gone on

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Speaker 2: Hollybobs early because I.

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Speaker 9: Got three months here.

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Speaker 2: Oh JESU, is that all anyway? So he's going on

533
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Speaker 2: the Hollybobs. I've got to go into his show, and

534
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Speaker 2: so I'm not going to talk to you again. When

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Speaker 2: do you hit off on the Hollybobs?

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Speaker 9: I'm on and off. It won't be until probably towards

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Speaker 9: the Christmas time, a couple of days ahead of that.

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Speaker 9: But unlike you guys, we don't get you know, a

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Speaker 9: month off or six weeks, which I think is fabulous.

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Speaker 9: We just sort of take it in bits and pieces

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Speaker 9: throughout the year. So I wish you, you and the

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Speaker 9: whole family a whole wonderful holiday at Christmas, and I

543
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Speaker 9: show Hosking how it's done in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, I wish Jeez settled down, lord, go and

545
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Speaker 2: have yourself a lovely bit of a summer break. And

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Speaker 2: well it's a winter break for you, isn't it a

547
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Speaker 2: little bit of a break over Christmas down And it's

548
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Speaker 2: been lovely to have you on the show this year.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's Dan Mitchinson, our us correspondent

550
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Speaker 2: on the boot camps and the kids who have scondered,

551
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Speaker 2: the two kids have run away hither I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: One Life Changed is a massive success. I've taught these

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Speaker 2: kids or kids like these hardcore kids that come from

554
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Speaker 2: families where crime is the norm, and what we actually

555
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Speaker 2: need is more funding for interventions that work when they're

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Speaker 2: at school. High schools are not set up to deal

557
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Speaker 2: with kids who have significant learning challenges, and so many

558
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Speaker 2: drop out because they feel demoralized. Look, here's the thing, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think we all accept that when you've got kids

560
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Speaker 2: who are this naughty, you need to intervene in their

561
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Speaker 2: lives and as early as possible, and actually you should

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Speaker 2: be the best thing for us to be doing is

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Speaker 2: social intervention, which is this agency that cuddles cost is

564
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Speaker 2: running now, and if they can intervene when that baby

565
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Speaker 2: is like literally when the baby is born, that's your

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Speaker 2: best chance of success. But because we haven't done that,

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Speaker 2: a boot camp is fine. Go for it, you know,

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Speaker 2: and seek you bar Low. They recidibust already, aren't they anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Barry soap on it next quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two Politics with Centrics credit check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 2: Senior political correspondence with us A Barry.

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Speaker 13: Good afternoon, and welcome back here.

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Speaker 2: Though, oh thank you so much, Barry. I'm just so

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Speaker 2: happy to be here. No, actually am I was getting

575
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Speaker 2: quite bored. Hey, Okay, so the boot camps now what's

576
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Speaker 2: the situation. What do we know about these dudes have

577
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Speaker 2: run away?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's incredible, isn't it. As soon as you see

579
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Speaker 13: something going wrong, no matter what it is, you've got

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Speaker 13: the calls for the boot camps to be closed down,

581
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Speaker 13: that they don't work, and it's wishful thinking, I think

582
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Speaker 13: from the opposition because they were tried in the past

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Speaker 13: that didn't work very well, but this one and they're

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Speaker 13: legislating for them. These will be for not the boot

585
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Speaker 13: camps themselves, but the procedure will take a year to

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Speaker 13: get these kids, hopefully back on the straight and narrow.

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Speaker 13: What happened here was it was tragic that one of

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Speaker 13: the participants the camp died in a car crash in

589
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Speaker 13: terral last week. And there was a tonguey And the

590
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Speaker 13: thing that I found interesting it wasn't really explained one

591
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Speaker 13: escape from the tonguey despite being supervised by to a

592
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Speaker 13: rung A tame Iriki staff, and then another left a

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Speaker 13: funal that he was staying with later. The transition from

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Speaker 13: the Youth Justice Facility, which is the boot camp, to

595
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Speaker 13: the community phase was always seen as going to be

596
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Speaker 13: the most difficult part of the twelve month program. Now,

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Speaker 13: the second young person who had scondered, as I said,

598
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Speaker 13: was living with fun Ow, so he wasn't being supervised

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Speaker 13: by a rung Atamamriiki but a raung A. Tame Iriki's

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Speaker 13: Youth Justice boss Tusha Penny, spoke to the media after

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Speaker 13: appearing before a select committee at Parliament today and said

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Speaker 13: the death was always likely to be a trigger that

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Speaker 13: would lead to something like this.

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Speaker 14: These events may happen a game. This is the transition phase.

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Speaker 14: We are dealing with complex, high risk youth offenders. We're

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Speaker 14: not going to give up, you know, We've got.

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Speaker 2: To keep going.

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Speaker 14: There is no other option and we're dedicated to seeing

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Speaker 14: this through. We have already seen a degree of change

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Speaker 14: in some of these boys that one is an employment.

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Speaker 14: We have one doing work experience, we have another who's

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Speaker 14: about to go employment, and we have several engage with education.

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Speaker 13: See I think that's great without the boot camps precisely,

614
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Speaker 13: and you know, they're being given the opportunity and clearly

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Speaker 13: the majority of them are taking it and that's what

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Speaker 13: this should be all about. Rather than people on the

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Speaker 13: outside criticizing these kids are the dregs when it comes

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Speaker 13: to offending. You know, like you said, they've got to

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Speaker 13: commit very serious offenses our age. Between fourteen and seventeen,

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Speaker 13: the recidivism rate from youth justice residents is between sixty

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Speaker 13: and eighty percent. That's what it has been and hopefully

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Speaker 13: these book camps will rectify that.

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Speaker 2: Yees, hey, what did we get out of that meeting

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Speaker 2: with Australia today?

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Speaker 13: Well, not a lot really. It's a bit of a handshake,

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Speaker 13: way of the flag type meeting. But it's called Ensman it's.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it's Australian Australian ministers.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So you had Judith Collins and Winston Peters and the

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Speaker 13: Australian counterparts at the meeting. Questions were raised and would

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Speaker 13: be rather embarrassing for New Zealand about the sinking of

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Speaker 13: the marwan Anui. And it was embarrassing, but Judith Collins

633
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Speaker 13: put on a pretty pray faceset that they were very

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Speaker 13: upfront about it. Of course, they had no choice other

635
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Speaker 13: than being upfront. New Zealand wants to be more interoperable

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Speaker 13: with the Australian defense forces and an agreement to that

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Speaker 13: end was signed. The Aussies were polite when it came

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Speaker 13: to defense spending. They've been critical of New Zealand and

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Speaker 13: the but their minister said that it's not the amount

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Speaker 13: that's spent, but what it's spent on. New Zealand's spend

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Speaker 13: is one point one eight percent of GDP for defense,

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Speaker 13: Australia's is just over two percent, so it's not a

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Speaker 13: hell of a lot. More on Orcas Pillar two, they

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Speaker 13: talked about the technology side. Again, New Zealand was pretty

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Speaker 13: silent on that. But look the two ANZAC defense ministers,

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Speaker 13: due to Collins and Richard Marles, they were certainly on

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Speaker 13: the same page when it came to how they see

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Speaker 13: the Pacific At the moment.

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Speaker 15: The strategic landscape is as complex as it has been

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Speaker 15: since the end of the Secamore War. We are seeing

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Speaker 15: the rules based order, which is very much in the

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Speaker 15: interests of Australia but also of New Zealand being placed

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Speaker 15: under significant pressure in places like Eastern Europe, but throughout

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Speaker 15: the endo Pacific as well.

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Speaker 16: The world is not a happy place. Pacific is not

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Speaker 16: free of conflict and tension and stress and strategic maneuvering,

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Speaker 16: and we have to play our part not only to

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Speaker 16: protect and look after ourselves but also our Pacific neighbors

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Speaker 16: and the Southeast Asian area.

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Speaker 13: See, and that's where August two comes into being really

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Speaker 13: here though, when it's stalled at the moment talkers, but look,

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Speaker 13: I think the United States will pick this up and

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Speaker 13: run with it when Donald Trump comes to power because

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Speaker 13: it clearly is seen as being anti Jart Barry.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much. We'll wrap the political week. That was

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Speaker 2: with you after six Again, that's very sore. Senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Just lost a wicket in the crickets so conways out

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Speaker 2: for eleven. That has us eighteen for one. He was

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Speaker 2: caught by one of the slips. And we've got no pressure,

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Speaker 2: came Williamson in seven Away from five.

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Speaker 5: Breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Given it's the first of season, Prime Minister drops into

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Speaker 17: say hello and goodbye.

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Speaker 8: Christopher likes nice.

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Speaker 13: To see you, to see you too.

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Speaker 17: The present I have for you first. It's one of one,

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Speaker 17: so it's unique.

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Speaker 18: It sounds special.

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Speaker 17: It's a prototype. I think you'll be impressed. No one

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Speaker 17: has ever been given one of these because it doesn't

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Speaker 17: exist anywhere else.

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Speaker 4: In the world.

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Speaker 19: Oh, that's the complete guide to surviving and Mike Hosking interview.

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Speaker 17: So look for the ins.

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Speaker 8: Oh that is genius.

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Speaker 1: That is genius.

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Speaker 13: That's a total mystery to me.

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Speaker 8: Twelve funds after having done these interviews.

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Speaker 17: Right, yes, we back Monday from six am. But Mike

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Speaker 17: asking breakfast at the rain driver of the Law News

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Speaker 17: talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Hither I just bought a nineteen seventies brown house hashtag winning.

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Speaker 2: You are winning and you don't even need to paint

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Speaker 2: it now that it's the color of the year. By

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Speaker 2: the way, four away from five shock of my life

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Speaker 2: to find out apparently YMCA is not a gay anthem.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, the one will.

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Speaker 2: Every time we hear it, we're all like a lovely

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Speaker 2: gay anthem. No, not a gay anthem. The guy who

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Speaker 2: wrote it, his name is Victor Willis. He's also, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the policeman and the naval officer in the

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Speaker 2: village people. He who is the policeman and the naval

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Speaker 2: officer and wrote it says, h there are no gay connotations.

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Speaker 2: And when he wrote out about hanging out with all

705
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Speaker 2: the boys, he wasn't meaning what you thought he was meaning.

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Speaker 2: He was just meaning that they go and like literally

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Speaker 2: hang out with like literally nothing else. So just hang

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Speaker 2: out with each other, having a laugh, having a beer,

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Speaker 2: having a chat, you know, like boys do. Anyway, he

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Speaker 2: has said any media outlet that still suggests that YMCA

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Speaker 2: is a gay anthem from January next year, as in

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Speaker 2: like next month, his wife is going to sue them

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Speaker 2: since the wife has got a problem with it. Wives

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Speaker 2: always did the admin as well, so she will sue.

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Speaker 2: You don't say anything, Okay, listen. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you've seen it, but there's been a bit of a

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Speaker 2: staus in christ Church about the situation about a man

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Speaker 2: trying to take his man bag in also probably not

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Speaker 2: a gay thing or anything like a stamanbag anyway, he

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Speaker 2: has They said no because contraband guns, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: He's upset about it. He says it is an anti

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Speaker 2: gay thing. So we're gonna find out what's going on.

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Speaker 2: In twenty minutes. Stay Seamo's with.

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Speaker 8: Us next.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

726
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Speaker 1: get the answers by the bags and give the analysis

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Speaker 1: together du Celan Drive with One New Zealand. Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected and you talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon. Well, the government's boot camp trial is

730
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Speaker 2: under the microscope, with the news that one of the

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Speaker 2: kids has died in a car crash and two other

732
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Speaker 2: kids have run away after his tonguey Labour's now calling

733
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Speaker 2: on the boot camps to be shut down entirely. AX

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Speaker 2: Party leader David Seymour has been an advocate for the

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Speaker 2: boot camp trial and is with us now. Hey, David,

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Speaker 2: are you seeing this as a failure of the boot camps?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not. I'll get into the opposition later if

738
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Speaker 5: you want to give me a chance, but let's just

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Speaker 5: deal with this very serious issue. You've had again. Kids.

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Speaker 2: Go with me.

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Speaker 5: You've got eight of them who are actually doing very well.

742
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Speaker 5: You've had one who has tragically died in a car crash.

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Speaker 5: We can't say much more about that, but there is

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Speaker 5: nothing to suggest that I'm aware of that actually he

745
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Speaker 5: was up to anything wrong. He was just called on

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Speaker 5: a tragic accident, which sadly happens to hundreds of New

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Speaker 5: Zealanders every year, despite them doing nothing wrong. We've had

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Speaker 5: another kid who had reoffended, and he's the one who

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Speaker 5: has definitely done something wrong since entering the course, and

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Speaker 5: only one that has. That kid was given compassionate consideration

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Speaker 5: despite being locked up again to go out to the

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Speaker 5: tonguey of his mate who had died and absconded from

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Speaker 5: the toungey. Finally, today, another kid who for reasons that

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Speaker 5: aren't clear, who was outside of the facility. I remember

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Speaker 5: they're on the kind of home supervision part has broken

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Speaker 5: his court order and has gone missing over the last

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Speaker 5: few hours. We don't know much more about that. I

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Speaker 5: think once you get a practical view of what's actually happened,

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Speaker 5: the opposition, shall I say, hysterics can be put in

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Speaker 5: a bit of context. I think it says more about

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Speaker 5: them than this policy or these youth offenders. And you've

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Speaker 5: got a bear in mind, you don't get put in

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Speaker 5: juvie for smoking behind the bike shed. I mean, these

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Speaker 5: are some of the most broken and sometimes dangerous kids

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Speaker 5: that there are. I've been to the facility at Parmers North.

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Speaker 5: I've actually sat down with these kids, and I think

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Speaker 5: it's a little bit early to say that this program

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Speaker 5: has failed. I actually think it's a very well. Bear

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Speaker 5: in mind, there's others who, for example, have started a

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Speaker 5: barbering apprentice ship and are turning their lives around, and so.

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Speaker 2: Why do you want to have a crack at the

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Speaker 2: opposition over this.

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Speaker 5: Well It's pretty simple here that when I came into

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Speaker 5: Parliament ten years ago there were people in the Green

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Speaker 5: Party who maybe not my count tea, but you could

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Speaker 5: talk to them. Maybe a bit quirky, but well mean

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Speaker 5: and very thoughtful and often very intelligent. I look at

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Speaker 5: Tabitha Hall today, miss representing the situation for political gain,

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Speaker 5: saying that the kid died in a military style of academy,

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Speaker 5: which is absolutely untrue. And there you've got an opposition

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Speaker 5: politician who reads the headlines, asked, what's going to give

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Speaker 5: her the biggest political sugar hit, and then goes out

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Speaker 5: and spreads misinformation about a vulnerable child who's died. Now,

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Speaker 5: what does that tell you about the Greens. They don't

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Speaker 5: actually believe in supporting vulnerable children. They believe in using

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Speaker 5: them for political purposes. And when she was found out,

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Speaker 5: she said, oh, I just chose to amplify the voice

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Speaker 5: of another young person, So she's actually blaming her screw

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Speaker 5: up on another. So she's actually managed to use and

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Speaker 5: abuse two children in the course of this. I just

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Speaker 5: think it's a disgrace, but I'm not surprised because these

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Speaker 5: are the same people who when the Royal Commission of

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Speaker 5: Abuse in state care and quiet was released, chose to

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Speaker 5: politicize it horrifically personally attack Karen Sure, who's actually one

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Speaker 5: of the people who could well be in those reports

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Speaker 5: given her background. It shows a politicization of issues that

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Speaker 5: deserves some maturity. And you know, when I compare that

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Speaker 5: to the Green Party I used to know, I think

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Speaker 5: they've got really big problems politically, policy wise, but most

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Speaker 5: importantly ethically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, David, thank you. I appreciate your time. That David

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Speaker 2: Semo or the act Party leader ever duper Ellen. Right, well,

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Speaker 2: this is no surprise if you've been following the NCAA

804
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Speaker 2: exam results lately, the latest Center of Shaker as well.

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Speaker 2: So we've got the compulsory numerous the NCAA entrance test,

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Speaker 2: fifty five percent of students past that, the writing test,

807
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Speaker 2: sixty six percent of students past that, and reading, thank god,

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Speaker 2: got up to seventy percent passing that. Von Quio is

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Speaker 2: the Secondary Principal's Association President A. Vaughan.

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Speaker 20: Hey, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. I can't imagine your surprise

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Speaker 2: by this, are you?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 20: No, we saw was a little while ago, and it

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Speaker 20: still makes for pretty depressing reading.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we do about it? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 20: Well, it's clear of believers that have been pulled at

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Speaker 20: the moment. What we've got is those assessments. The majority

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Speaker 20: of students that we're doing those were year ten, So

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Speaker 20: we don't have to panic too much right now. But

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Speaker 20: what we know we have is a literacy and numeracy problem.

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Speaker 20: We know there's a whole lot of students coming to

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Speaker 20: us in year nine that are well behind where they

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Speaker 20: need to be, and we're caught in that awkward situation

825
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Speaker 20: where we've got a new assessment regime laid on to

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Speaker 20: some students who haven't had the benefit of perhaps the

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Speaker 20: attention that the younger colleagues will get over the next

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Speaker 20: couple of years as we try and get them up

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Speaker 20: to speed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so are you on board with the idea of

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Speaker 2: the one hour of reading, writing and maths at the

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Speaker 2: primary school level to get them ready?

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Speaker 20: What I'm on board with is the fact that we

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Speaker 20: know that kids come to us in year nine quite

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Speaker 20: significantly behind where they need to be, and we've got

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Speaker 20: to do something different to what we have been doing.

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Speaker 20: Otherwise we're going to carry on doing the same thing.

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Speaker 20: Were the same.

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Speaker 2: Results that sounds like a yes.

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Speaker 5: Worn.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take that as a yes. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much, appreciate your time. That's worn. Queo Secondary Principles

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Speaker 2: Association President. I've got to be careful when you're in

844
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Speaker 2: the unions, you know, in the education unions, because you

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Speaker 2: want to say what you want to say, but you

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Speaker 2: don't want to annoy the other education unions who having

847
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Speaker 2: a winge about the same thing. You follow what I'm saying.

848
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Speaker 2: It was a little bit of solidartaknosk in amongst there.

849
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the handbag situation shortly, shortly, but first

850
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Speaker 2: I'll just bring you up to speeds. Listen, I'm just

851
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: gonna apologize right now. Right, there's gonna be there's gonna

852
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Speaker 2: be a lot of had cups in this show, if

853
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Speaker 2: you we're one hour, one and a quarter hours, and

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Speaker 2: we've already realized that, right, we're dealing with fuzzy brain

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Speaker 2: over here. All bits had all baits had a lie

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Speaker 2: down for a week, isn't she so apologies. We're taking

857
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Speaker 2: it slowly, we're making errors. We're trying. So I've got

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Speaker 2: some good news for you. This is me trying. I'm

859
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Speaker 2: bringing you some good news. Right the tradees Apparently the

860
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Speaker 2: reno workers up again Builders Crack have put out some

861
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: stats they reckon thirty percent is what the leap in

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Speaker 2: the demand for trade eases. And this is between June

863
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Speaker 2: and October. They've seen it jump by thirty percent. That's

864
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Speaker 2: we're coming off a low base, but thirty percent is

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Speaker 2: reasonably significant and if you're looking, you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: thinking about paving in driveway projects and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: getting fast, because it's a fifty percent increase there. And

868
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Speaker 2: what this is a sign of is that people are

869
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Speaker 2: finally starting to spend a bit a bit more money

870
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Speaker 2: now that they've got the interest rates coming back and

871
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And they also think maybe

872
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: it maybe people getting their houses ready for sale, but

873
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: that's still being careful with their money. So it's nothing

874
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: significant significant. We're not talking about full renaults and rebuilds,

875
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: just like a repaint maybe if you like tarting it up,

876
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: tarting the old girl up, you know, some lighting, some

877
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: things like that. So anyway, good news though for the

878
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Speaker 2: construction sector because they need the work quarter pass. Hey,

879
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: the risk of shark attacks this summer Israel, and that

880
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: is because the BYD sharks super six Hybrid ut is

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Speaker 2: here and it is available to test drive at many

882
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Speaker 2: of the dealers across the country. There is blood in

883
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Speaker 2: the water, I'm telling you, because the Shark six is

884
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 2: the ute that's got other car companies scared. This truck

885
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: is four hundred and thirty horse power, it can go

886
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: zero to one hundred ks an hour in just five

887
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: point seven seconds, and it's got very very low emissions,

888
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: so you know, you don't have to feel guilty about it.

889
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: In fact, most people in the city centers would hardly

890
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: ever use the petrol engine. It'll just be driving an

891
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: EV mode most of the time and its total range

892
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: is up to eight hundred ks. Now the special launch

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Speaker 2: pricing is just sixty nine nine hundred and ninety dollars

894
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Speaker 2: plus on road costs. But you'll have to be quick

895
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Speaker 2: because this price will rise in the new year. So

896
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Speaker 2: test drive the BYD Shark super six Hybrid today. Trust me,

897
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: once you drive one of these things, there is no

898
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Speaker 2: going back. It is a beauty. Check it out at

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Speaker 2: BYD Auto dot Co dos NZ Heather do for clans

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Speaker 2: eighteen past five now and by the way, we're going

901
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Speaker 2: to have a chat to the Wellington Phoenix head coach

902
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: Jean Carlo at Taliano, who's going to be with us

903
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: after half past five? Now? A christ Church man has

904
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: complained about a bar repeatedly refusing to let him in

905
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: because he had a man bag on. The man says

906
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: that the Rockpool bar's policy not to allow patrons to

907
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: bring their bags in its homophobic, but the owner of

908
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: the bar reckons that the reason they only let them

909
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Speaker 2: in is because people can hide weapons in their bags.

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: Steve Armitage is Hospitality New Zealand's chief executive. Hey, Steve

911
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: H just.

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00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 18: Am I here in my capacity as Hospitality New Zealand

913
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Speaker 18: Sea or because I was the first person you thought of,

914
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Speaker 18: who has a man bag?

915
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a man What kind of man bag

916
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: do you have?

917
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 18: I describe it as a satchel?

918
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Is it like have you got a leather satchel that

919
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: hangs sort of had height?

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Speaker 18: There's probably faux leather.

921
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Speaker 8: Yes, you know?

922
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Speaker 13: Is this the bag you are?

923
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Speaker 2: You are the classic man bag carrier in Auckland, you know?

924
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Speaker 2: So I would describe it slightly dandyish, So yes, we

925
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Speaker 2: did think of that. But it is do you make

926
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Speaker 2: an effort? Have you had a chat to the spar

927
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Speaker 2: about the spony chance.

928
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Speaker 18: Yeah, we have been in touch with them today. I

929
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Speaker 18: think the first thing to say is that you news

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Speaker 18: have the right to put restrictions in place to protect

931
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Speaker 18: their customers and staff, but they obviously need to ensure

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Speaker 18: they're being applied consiststantly, so there's no suggestion of discrimination.

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Speaker 18: That is not the case here. The issue is about

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Speaker 18: what might be in the bag. It's certainly not about

935
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Speaker 18: the customer, and the venue has been clear as you've

936
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Speaker 18: said that it's about health and safety and host responsibility

937
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Speaker 18: because they've had some issues recently around concealed drugs and

938
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Speaker 18: other contraband, so's there's no suggestion in the venue as

939
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Speaker 18: anything other than a very popular, inclusive venue just trying

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Speaker 18: to do their best to provide a safe environment.

941
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Speaker 2: Did they tell you, Steve, what kind of a bag

942
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Speaker 2: this dude was trying to bring in?

943
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Speaker 18: No, I haven't had a description of the bag, but

944
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Speaker 18: I have had some indication of the types of bags

945
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Speaker 18: that have been coming in. Another ones that you'd sort

946
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Speaker 18: of associate with gangs, and that the drugs that they

947
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Speaker 18: tend to carry around in them.

948
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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, from my limited knowledge of gangs and

949
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Speaker 2: drugs that what we're talking about is sort of like

950
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Speaker 2: Louis Veuton little Gucci baggies, you know, little like petite

951
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: little purses that the guys like to wear, or the

952
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: fanny pack that they like to wear it.

953
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Speaker 18: I would not profess to be an expert in this area,

954
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Speaker 18: but yes, that's what I need to believe.

955
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Speaker 2: Okay, So you think they made the right call here, Well.

956
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 18: I think they're well within their rights to have this

957
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Speaker 18: policy in place. I think what they need to make

958
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Speaker 18: sure is that they've got clear signage and that people

959
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Speaker 18: are understanding why they're being refused.

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Speaker 5: Entrue.

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Speaker 18: My concern was that there was some suggestion of discrimination,

962
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Speaker 18: but I'm assured that that's not the case at all.

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Speaker 2: No, Steve, Hey, listen, Thanks very much, Go and enjoy

964
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Speaker 2: your weekend and get rid of the satchel for the

965
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Speaker 2: weekend and just relax at Steve Armitage Hospitality and New

966
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: Zealand Chief Executive see hither. If you want to spot

967
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: a gang member, just look for the man with the

968
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: Gucci bag, the Gucci man bag, and then you've got

969
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: your guy. Also, your modern day gang member, because I

970
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: think some of us are still stuck in the sort

971
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: of seventies, eighties and nineties, where we think that the

972
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: real threats to ourselves is the one with real mub

973
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: ridden across the face. No, no, no, your modern threat

974
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: is the one who comes in all muscles, bulging tight,

975
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: little VERSACEI top, you know, just showing off his little nipples.

976
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: And then he's got himself one of those little Gucci

977
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: bags on the side, and when you open that up,

978
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Speaker 2: going to be loaded with cash and contraband five twenty one.

979
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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need

980
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Heather duple c Allen drive with one New Zealand let's

981
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: get connected the news talk as they'd be.

982
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Heather the guy who shot and killed someone outside that

983
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: bar that was Chapel Bar and Poncibi had a man

984
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: bag too, right, So I'm telling you that's what you

985
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: gotta watch out for, that class the little Gucci bag

986
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: five twenty four, which is by the way to say,

987
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: don't get yourself a classy little Gucci bag because and

988
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: then I'm going to cross the road when I see

989
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: you aren't I So I'm gonna be like game. Remember

990
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: now you're gonna have to indulge me on this one,

991
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: because I haven't been here all week, but I need

992
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: to talk about the Supreme Court decision that came out

993
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: earlier in the week, because I think it was actually

994
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: probably one of the most significant things to have happened

995
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: in the last few days. If you don't know what

996
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, I'm referring to the Supreme Court decision

997
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: on the Marine and Coastal Area Act, and it was

998
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: important mainly because it overturned a Court of Appeal decision,

999
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: and that Court of Appeal decision was widely seen as

1000
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: one of the most egregious cases of courts basically ignoring

1001
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: what Parliament wanted and just doing what they wanted to

1002
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: do themselves, because Parliament in this particular case had been

1003
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: very very clear, very clear that here we could only

1004
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 2: claim rights over certain parts of the foreshoe and seabd

1005
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: and very specific circumstances. And what the Court of Appeal

1006
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: had decided was that Parliament didn't really mean that. No,

1007
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: it said that, but it didn't really mean that. So

1008
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: it was just going to write some new rules and

1009
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: it's what it did, and it was completely bollocks and nuts.

1010
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: Everybody looked at it and went, how can anybody think

1011
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: that this is okay. Well, thank god that the Supreme

1012
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Court did not think it was okay. And these guys

1013
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: are more senior judges obviously, and they came out this

1014
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: week and said to the lower Court, no, you're wrong,

1015
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: you erd in that decision, and they set the thing right.

1016
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 9: Now.

1017
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: Why I think this is important is because this actually

1018
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: goes beyond this one piece of law.

1019
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: Right.

1020
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: This is actually a significant problem we've got at the

1021
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: moment where the judiciary has basically just gone off on

1022
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: this really weird tangent where they think that they are

1023
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: the ones writing laws and they can just ignore what

1024
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Parliament wants, and they can call all the shots, and

1025
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: they act like Parliament is full of a bunch of

1026
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: idiots and we need to be saved from them. That

1027
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: the Court of Appealed decision was only one of the

1028
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: examples of this. It was the most high profile, but

1029
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: there are heaps of other examples, for example three strikes

1030
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: where they just ignored the three strikes law in so

1031
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: many cases, or even more recently, the cases you know

1032
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: those forty two k c's who wrote the open letters

1033
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: to the government about the Treaty Principles Bill. They actually

1034
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: said in that letter, now we're not sure that you

1035
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: actually can pass the laws like this. Hello, Yes, you can,

1036
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: your parliament. It's bizarre that the cases even would say

1037
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: something like that. Anyway. Mainly, the point I'm trying to

1038
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: make is that the overreach from the judiciary has gone

1039
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: way too far and has got to stop. It's actually

1040
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: a real problem for democracy because democracy relies on Parliament

1041
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: being able to call the shots and everybody just by

1042
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: going we might not like the law, but that's the

1043
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: law now. So I'm pleased to see that the Court

1044
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: of Appeal has been put back in its place by

1045
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court this week, and I'd like to see

1046
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: more of that, Please, Heather do for Seela listen on

1047
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: another subject altogether, Thank God, somebody said this. Movies are

1048
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: too long, aren't they? So somebody in the Guardian has

1049
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: written an opinion piece about this because they I think

1050
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: they went I don't know whether they actually did bother

1051
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: to go and watch Wicked part one, but they were

1052
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: writing about Wicked Part one and they pointed out that

1053
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: Wicked part one, which means that there's like a part

1054
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: two as well. Wicked Part one's two hours and forty

1055
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: one minutes long. It's a very long movie, and then

1056
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: they went through and made the point that back in

1057
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: the day, you know, like a classic like Clueless is

1058
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: have we just lost? Williamson out? Oh we're in big

1059
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: live pause, live pause, the movies sit, We're We're in trouble.

1060
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: Williamson out for twenty no, no ball. Are we going

1061
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: to be saved?

1062
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: Hod on?

1063
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: Am we going to be saved? Forget? Forget all of

1064
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: the strama. Forget all of the strama. I'm gonna come

1065
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: back straight after the news and tell you what's the lads,

1066
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: and we're going to We're absolutely going to talk about

1067
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: these two long movies headlines next.

1068
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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

1069
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen

1070
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: drive with One New Zealand let's get connected and news

1071
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: talk as they'd be hiddly.

1072
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: Christmas, it's the best time.

1073
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Speaker 1: Of the.

1074
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 20: I don't know.

1075
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Speaker 5: Do you love it?

1076
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm so here for it. Bring on

1077
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: these Christmas bangers. I'm gonna talk about the movies. We

1078
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: will talk about the movies. Let me quickly explain to

1079
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: you what just happened there with Kane Williamson, So Cain

1080
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: Williamson got clean bold. But then thank god for the

1081
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: third for the old dumb pie, the old TV for

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Speaker 2: Sheila and you won't get own who just got bold?

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00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Tom Latham. Yeah, so here we were talking about how

1084
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: Williamson wasn't out because it was a noble and Latham

1085
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: just got clean bold. So we're fifty three for two.

1086
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: So anyway, I will talk about the sports Hitle. We'll

1087
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: talk to the sports huddle about that very shortly and

1088
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: after six o'clock. If you're if you're one of these

1089
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: lovees who thinks that open banking is going to solve

1090
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: everybody's problems, you're good news for you. We'll get to

1091
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: that shortly, twenty three away from.

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Speaker 1: Six, Heather Duplicy Ellen, So we have got the.

1093
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Derby tomorrow afternoon. Auckland f C is going to host

1094
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix in front of a sold out Mount

1095
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: Smart crowd tomorrow in the afternoon. Phoenix head coach Young

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00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: Carlo Italiano is with us. Now, hallo mate, Hi, how

1097
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: are you well? Thank you? Are you feeling confident?

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00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 11: I'm always confident every game I'm going to but there's

1099
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 11: always a fear of not performing well, which is always

1100
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 11: a good way to keep me in check?

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00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean, listen, even if you

1102
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that you're going to have a

1103
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: bias and you're going to have the mixed feelings because

1104
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: you're the competitor. But if you step back from who

1105
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: you are and the job you are, the story about

1106
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Auckland f C is quite remarkable, isn't it.

1107
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 11: No, I think your parallels probably what where Sydney Wanderers

1108
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 11: did probably about ten years ago when they were introducing

1109
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 11: to the league. They started, you know, as a new franchise,

1110
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 11: and then they snowboard. I think they went ten games unbeaten.

1111
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 11: I think it was maybe eleven games unbeating at the

1112
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 11: beginning of the season, and then from there they were

1113
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 11: able to go and make a couple of Grand finals.

1114
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 11: But then they won the Asian Champions League. So it's

1115
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 11: great for the league. It's it builds interest, especially for

1116
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 11: New Zealand general and the football landscape. So no, it

1117
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 11: is quite significant.

1118
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: And so where are the West City Wonderings? What are

1119
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: they called Wi Sidney Wanderers.

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00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 11: Western City Wonderers?

1121
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's going on with them?

1122
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 20: Now?

1123
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: Are they any good?

1124
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 9: Well?

1125
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 11: No, they're not too bad. You know, they've had you know,

1126
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 11: that success, and I think they've kind of lost their

1127
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 11: way a little bit trying to get back to to

1128
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 11: the top of the mountain. But that happens with all

1129
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 11: football clubs.

1130
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: What do you put it down to? How is it

1131
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: that Auckland lives you've managed to pull this off?

1132
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 11: I think money helps.

1133
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: David Church was on with Darnacy this week said that's

1134
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: basically what's going on here.

1135
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 11: Look, it does help. I mean this year, I think

1136
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 11: with the A League in general, there's as you would know,

1137
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 11: it's like a salary restricted A league, so you know,

1138
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 11: most teams have a small allocation of money that's kind

1139
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 11: of been effective for most part because of the TV

1140
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 11: distribution deal. So any team that spent money this year

1141
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 11: on players and they've recruited quite well, have the opportunity

1142
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 11: to do well. So they've signed some very good foreigners

1143
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 11: and make some competitive But again, look, I think as well,

1144
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 11: when you sign someone like Steve Coriker's coach who's won

1145
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 11: a couple of leagues, knows the league inside out, it

1146
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 11: does make a big difference.

1147
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: Right, So what do you I mean You obviously can't

1148
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: say too much because you don't want to give you

1149
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: a game plan away, but what do you reckon? You

1150
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: guys have to do tomorrow to win.

1151
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 11: I'm always happy to give my game plan away, just

1152
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 11: no one asks.

1153
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 8: No.

1154
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 11: I think the big thing is, I think the game

1155
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 11: is more. It can be played tactically. It can also

1156
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 11: be played with the actual emotion and of the actual

1157
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 11: derby because you know, it's it's unlike most competitive games

1158
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 11: because it's more about bragging, right, so players take that

1159
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 11: into the game. And I think when a team defends

1160
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 11: so well like that, like Auckland have, I think scoring

1161
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 11: and if we'll just score early, it will change the

1162
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 11: dynamic of the game and it will be a real

1163
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 11: question about whether or not Auckland have any sort of

1164
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 11: resilience in their heads.

1165
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: They haven't.

1166
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, they haven't experienced that yet. So I think that

1167
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 11: that would be the game plan is you know, it's

1168
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 11: to score early. But again I'm happy to take a

1169
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 11: one nill win at the death as well.

1170
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: Hey, well, good luck, enjoy it tomorrow. I'm really looking

1171
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: forward to watching it as gian Carlo Italiana Wellington Phoenix

1172
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: coach sixty rations and so that's all right. Ration and

1173
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: Williams and Williamson is sitting on twenty two for thirty

1174
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: one and Russians on one. So here we go twenty

1175
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 2: away from six.

1176
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Speaker 1: The Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,

1177
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

1178
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 8: Henry Glydes a two duckat who's yet to score.

1179
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 16: Next time.

1180
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: Is in come to Smith hangling and takes off this single.

1181
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 20: He's got a hat, Smith, He's connected it and he's

1182
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 20: well out.

1183
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 8: How are you prop, Smith's The cast black stands in.

1184
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 13: The air, high in the air.

1185
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 11: Is anyone underneath it?

1186
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 5: There is, and it's taken plas dr tax a good

1187
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 5: catch down there and finally.

1188
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: Diving to us left sports hudle this evening Andrew Gordy

1189
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: sports commentator, and Levin a good sports journalist and commentator.

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Hello are you too there? You've done good eight Good

1191
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: to speak, Levina. How are you feeling about the cricket? Well, yeah,

1192
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: a little tentative.

1193
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: I've been a bit peeved actually because I celebrated the

1194
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: black cap so well over India. It was like such

1195
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 4: a long time coming. This was so fabulous and they're

1196
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: missing all those catches and losing.

1197
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: By so much.

1198
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 15: I was like, what are they doing.

1199
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Speaker 2: I want to celebrate you, be happy for you.

1200
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: So at the moment, I'm feeling quite confident about the cricket,

1201
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: feeling good and they're redeeming themselves, showing atonement to the

1202
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: fans that loved them so much and adored them after

1203
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 4: defeats against India. Is it good?

1204
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: Is cricket just one of those games where it is inconsistent,

1205
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: like you could be great and then you just hit

1206
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: the next week.

1207
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, It's why I love and hate the game

1208
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 8: in fact, So no, you're absolutely right. I'm actually I'm

1209
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 8: feeling uneasy about the Black Cats at the moment. I'm

1210
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 8: pleased that they started taking catches here in this test

1211
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 8: and the second test. I'm always reluctant to criticize people

1212
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 8: who can't catch because I had hands like a salmon

1213
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: when I was playing the game. I'm surprised even called

1214
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 8: COVID that sort of thing. But yeah, they weren't great

1215
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 8: in the field down in christ Hurts so great scene

1216
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 8: improvement this time around. But look, even allowing England to

1217
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 8: get two hundred and eighty runs, I felt like we

1218
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 8: could have got them out for cheaper. And it feels

1219
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 8: like this top order is hanging on. And by the way,

1220
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 8: did I hear you say sexy Russian before?

1221
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: Yep? Absolutely?

1222
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 8: How do you get away with that woman?

1223
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: They're all different? Come on show. Sorry, sorry, Gordy. This

1224
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: show is all about honesty, and let's be honest about it.

1225
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: Girls can say things that boys cannot say. And so

1226
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: I say, I absolutely abuse it is that okay with you?

1227
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 8: And so you should and so you should. No, absolutely fine.

1228
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: You want that man who's got glorious hair and that

1229
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: and that's just and we're only talking about the absolute

1230
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: top of his head, like when you start working your

1231
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: way down the body, it's just fantastic, the whole way down. Listen, Levina,

1232
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable about that.

1233
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: You probably do not. You're probably sitting there going it's

1234
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: not okay, Heather, no thing.

1235
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 4: It's a Tahua mark away, lovely hair as.

1236
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: Well, gorgeous. I mean, jeez, what I would do for

1237
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: those curls. Anyway? How do you feel about One of

1238
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: the things that's come up is that that there's been

1239
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: these fines handed out and docking of points for the

1240
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: fact that they've been bowling slow overs right. How do

1241
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: you feel about that.

1242
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 16: Is that actually?

1243
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, is that really we want the game to go?

1244
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 20: Ah?

1245
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: It's that's interesting, isn't it. I think there's a lot

1246
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 4: of people that I love cricket, and my favorite form

1247
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 4: of cricket is Test cricket. I really really love the

1248
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: five day version of the match and I appreciate it,

1249
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 4: but lots of cricket fans that are coming new to

1250
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 4: the game are turning to the other versions of the sport,

1251
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: and I guess if you want to keep the appreciation

1252
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: for the sport, you need to make sure that there is.

1253
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: A time limit.

1254
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: And I appreciate the fact that you know you need

1255
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: to actually get these overs done and dusted. The thing

1256
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: that I found ironic is that it was David Boone,

1257
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: who's the head referee, that decided to say that those

1258
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: penalties would be implemented. And I've watched a lot of

1259
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: cricket with mister Boone over the years, and the fastest

1260
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: thing he ever did was head to the pavilion. So

1261
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: I thought that was quite ironic in that Chams, but

1262
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it. You've got to bowl those ninety

1263
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 4: eighty five ninety overs and it has to be within

1264
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: a time limit. But I know that I know the

1265
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: game is still entertaining Andrew, it really is. But to

1266
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: keep the fans, especially new fans that are appreciating Test cricket,

1267
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: it has to be done through a certain period of time.

1268
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 8: Gordon, I think there's a really sensible approach here. I

1269
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 8: think the sensible answer here is that slow over eight

1270
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 8: fines and penalties are only enforced if the matching's in

1271
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 8: a draw after five days. But we had a result

1272
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 8: in this match. There were still ten hours of play

1273
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 8: to go. So I totally understand why this rule is

1274
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 8: in place and why it should be enforced, and I

1275
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 8: totally echo your sentiments about speeding up the game and

1276
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 8: making it a great product for people to watch. But

1277
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 8: if there's a result, the whole reason for it is

1278
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 8: null and boards. So I'd like to see those penalties

1279
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 8: and fines only inflicted if we go five days and

1280
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 8: it's a draw.

1281
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: Yep.

1282
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: I think that's basically the Ben Stokes argument. Seems like

1283
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: a fair argument. Okay, we'll come back and just to

1284
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: take quarter two.

1285
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1286
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: elevate the marketing of your.

1287
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: Home on the sports title. We've got Andrew Gordy and Levina.

1288
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: Good Gordy, listen France canning the AB's game in the

1289
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: US saying everything has to be played, and then Z

1290
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: is it a fair call?

1291
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: Ah?

1292
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 8: Look, is it a fair call? I can understand they

1293
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 8: clearly didn't want to do it, and so they've played

1294
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 8: the absolute trump card, which is player welfare. No one

1295
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 8: can ever argue with player welfare, and neither they probably should,

1296
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 8: but I think it's a convenient excuse because they simply

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Speaker 8: don't want to do it. And look, the trible aspect

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Speaker 8: is kind of fear they are going over multiple time zones.

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Speaker 8: But I personally like this idea, and not least because

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Speaker 8: France have made it clear that they want to send

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 8: a second string team out here. And if you're going

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Speaker 8: to treat it as some kind of exhibition, well we

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 8: may as well make an exhibition out of it and

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Speaker 8: play it over in the US. But let me tell you,

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00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 8: international rugby is going to get pretty damn boring if

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Speaker 8: every touring team decides to send a B team every

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Speaker 8: time they travel somewhere. So that needs to change.

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Speaker 2: I'm so dark on the French Levina that I just

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Speaker 2: everything I say. I just want to pose me too, mate.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason they're saying no, Heather, is because

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Speaker 4: we actually want to do it, you know. Like Andrew mentioned,

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Speaker 4: they've already announced that they're going to send an underrated

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Speaker 4: average team next year. And I mean, I'm not even

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Speaker 4: really keen on the AB's playing in the States, but

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Speaker 4: it just frustrates me that the get to call the shots.

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Speaker 4: That's what annoys me more than anything. And the only

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01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 4: reason they're saying no nothing to do with player welfare.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate them calling the card. It's because the all

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Speaker 4: Blacks want to do it, so on the right side.

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Speaker 4: On the right side, we do get another game here

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand, which is kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: But it's just because we want to do it. Yeah, frustrating, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's up with it? Why are they like this?

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Speaker 4: Because we want to do it and they've decided that

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Speaker 4: it wasn't their idea in the first place, and they're

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Speaker 4: meant to be touring New Zealand. It's got nothing to

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Speaker 4: do with player welfare because they're sending an underrated team

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Speaker 4: that it's because it was decided by New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, vive la France.

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Speaker 2: We are French.

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Speaker 4: We will be maybe arrogant allowed to say that. We

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Speaker 4: can talk about here, we can talk about the French

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Speaker 4: being Argea.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you've been to France the other day, Levin,

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Speaker 2: you know what they're like. That's horrible.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Very recently, yeah, very very recently, and riding on the

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Speaker 4: wave of a very successful Olympic Games which they hosted

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: and you just have to duck over to England and

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Speaker 4: they will tell you we'll host it better next time

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Speaker 4: like we did in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twelve is nothing. And going to France sometimes Okay, now, Gordy, Gordy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the wine is great and the food is great,

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01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: but you do have to feel to deal with the

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: French people and they've got such an attitude problem. Okay,

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: sebu Reese. How do we feel about the second discharge

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: without conviction.

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Speaker 8: I can understand why people might be upset about this

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01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 8: and feel like he doesn't deserve it, But even reading

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Speaker 8: and hearing what the judge had to say about this,

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01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 8: I tend to agree it would I think outweigh the

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 8: offense that was cause or that he committed obviously so

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Speaker 8: and it would have a serious impact on his ability

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 8: to go overseas. It is still a relatively young age

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 8: and further his career. And let's face it, I think

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 8: the writing's probably on the wall for severu rous anyway,

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 8: in terms of his career with the All Blacks and

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01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 8: here in New Zealand, it is probably time for him

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01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 8: to make hay while the sun shines, so to speak,

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 8: and head overseas to further his career. And this would

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Speaker 8: have a serious impact on that, and that to be

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Speaker 8: the case then absolutely that the punishment wouldn't hurt the crime.

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Speaker 2: It much sort of feel Levina like, now that he's

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Speaker 2: gone public and said, okay, I've got a booze problem,

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: it kind of is like, now we expect you to

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Speaker 2: behave yourself. If this happens again, you probably actually need

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Speaker 2: a conviction, would you.

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Speaker 4: Agree, Yeah, it's not the first time it's happened, though, No,

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Speaker 4: I think you had a conviction in twenty eighteen as well.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, calling the.

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Speaker 4: Cards of the alcohol issues, and yeah, I agree with Andrew.

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Speaker 4: It's not the sort of you know, you've got kids,

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01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: both male and female that want to play rugby and

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01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: have idols and look up to players.

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Speaker 2: I don't want my kids looking up to him at

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, go overseas and some money, earn your coin

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: and face the consequences of your actions.

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Speaker 2: And now all of us know exactly who it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too, right, guys, listen, Merry Christmas to the pair

1381
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Speaker 2: of you. It's very early, but it's the last time

1382
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to be talking to you on the show.

1383
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,479
Speaker 2: So go and have yourself on a lovely summer break

1384
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: and enjoy all of the good cricket and stuff. And

1385
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: you know he's hoping we win. Andrew Gordy and Levina

1386
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: Good our sports huddle eight away from six.

1387
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: Red or Blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the

1388
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: battle brands? The latest on the US election. It's Heather

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Duplicy Alan Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected

1390
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: use talks. It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Six away from six. I've got bad news for you.

1392
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Rations out three off ten balls court so that they

1393
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with butterfingers, do they over in England?

1394
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: They're catching us all the time. Anyway, I've started a thing,

1395
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Speaker 2: haven't I. This is from Fiona. Just listen to lascivious

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Speaker 2: old Fiona. Jean Carlos what a delicious voice. You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: You send those texts and I read them out because

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: you're a lady, So you have permission to be absolutely

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: just pesting as long as that it's all it is, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be absolutely clear, don't take it any

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: further than that. I don't want you to be doing

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: the weird stalking stuff and stuff like that. But you

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: can just have a little pest and we'll see what happens. Okay, movies,

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: So as it was telling you before, right, It's an

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: opinion piece in The Guardian calling out Wicked Part one

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01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 2: for being two hours and forty one minutes long, and

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Speaker 2: the point that the woman was making is fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: She says, we now have movies coming in between two

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Speaker 2: and two and a half hours that would never have

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: been that long if they were made fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time it's not because the genius auteur

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01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: needs that long to fulfill some vision. Most of the

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 2: time it does not make the film better. It often

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: actively hurts the film and my bum on uncomfortable cinema seats.

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01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: And she points out that you can go watch the

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Speaker 2: old classic of Clueless and Clueless, which everybody loved and

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Speaker 2: was a massive smash at the time, one hour thirty

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Speaker 2: seven and that was enough. You filled your boots in

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Speaker 2: under one hundred minutes and out you went. And so

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Speaker 2: I went and had a look at the top. What

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: was was very loose, these lists and stuff. But the

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Speaker 2: top movies this year, you would not believe how long

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Speaker 2: these things are. Dune Part two two hours forty six,

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: Mad Max two hours twenty eight. Inside Out two, which

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: is for kids, that comes in it under two hours,

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: is one hour thirty six. Because it's for kids, they're

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: not going to sit there longer than two hours. The

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Substance two hours to twenty one, The Brutalist three hours

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Speaker 2: thirty five, Holy Anna, The Young Woman in the Sea

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: two hours and nine, Challenges two hours eleven, The Full

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: Guy two hours and six, Deadpool and Wolverine two hours

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: and eight, which is two hours and eight too long. Beetlejuice.

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice came in at one forty five. It's probably that

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Speaker 2: movie also is so shite apparently that they just had

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: to cut heaps out, So there you go, you know what. Anyway, Anyway,

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Speaker 2: so then I was like, oh, got to compare it

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Speaker 2: to and I think I think they make an excellent point,

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Speaker 2: don't you that the movies are getting too long? Because

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but sometimes the husband will say,

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01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: on Afraid to night, should we watch a movie? And

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01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: I go, oh, no, I do not know. Do not

1442
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: have enough awake time to just watch one episode of Gallowstone?

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Speaker 2: That'll do? Do you not do that as well? Where

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: you're like, movies now are such a shlip like it's

1445
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: a marathon effort anyway, So I thought, go and compare

1446
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: it to some of the best movies ever made. In

1447
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: the Loop. If you haven't seen In the Loop, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I can say to you, but

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Speaker 2: that's only one hour forty six and it's awesome and

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: obviously the best movie of all time. Love actually, come

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: on argue against me. It is the best. It's got everything,

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: including the crying scene. That's two hours ten that's a

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: little long. But because it's so many stories, I think

1454
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna cut them some slacks, you know what I mean.

1455
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: And it's December and I've given you the idea, and

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01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: absolutely yes, you can go watch Love actually tonight. Why

1457
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: not let's talk about open banking next News Talks they've been.

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Speaker 1: The We're Business Insight, the Business Hour, We're the Heather Duple,

1459
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: c Ellen and my hr on news talks.

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Speaker 8: That be.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis

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Speaker 2: is going to talk us through how they're going in

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Speaker 2: South Korea with the impeachment of the president following the

1464
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: Marshall law situation. Barry Soper will wrap the political week

1465
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: that was, and Gavin Gray out of the UK as well.

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Speaker 2: It's seven past six. Now if you are one of

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: the people who firmly believes that open banking is going

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01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: to fix the whole banking system, I've got some good

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: news for you because there's a firm called Revolute that

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Speaker 2: has applied to become a registered bank in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and open banking is what they do. Massive university banking

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Speaker 2: expert Clear matthewsers with us. Now, Hey, Clear, Hi Heather.

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Speaker 2: Are they a game changer?

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Speaker 6: Well, it all depends where you sit on the open

1475
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 6: banking issue. As you suggest, potentially they are, but the reality,

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01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 6: as they are already operating in New Zealand, all the

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 6: license would mean is that they would be operating under

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01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 6: slightly different regulations and would be able to use the

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 6: name bank, so they'd be able to describe themselves as

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Speaker 6: resolute bank and talk about what they do as banking,

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,959
Speaker 6: which they can't do at the moment, despite the fact

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 6: that what they are doing is effectively banking.

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to come to the open banking thing

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: with you, But on them actually being able to call

1485
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: themselves a bank, that would probably force some people at

1486
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: least have some kind of, you know, a clear hurdle

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Speaker 2: in their head.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't they wouldn't it Absolutely, It's a perception thing as

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Speaker 6: much as anything else, because they would be then a bank,

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: just like Kiwibank or Westpac already of the other banks,

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Speaker 6: whereas at the moment they have to describe themselves accurately

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01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 6: as a non bank financial institution. It's a bit of

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 6: a mouthful and it just carries a slight dodgy for

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 6: the public. Yeah, so I hope it doesn't sound dodgy,

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01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 6: but it doesn't sound quite as good as a bank.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. Clear, This

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Speaker 2: is why you're the expert and I'm not. How do

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: you write their chances of being able to become a bank?

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Speaker 6: Well, one would assume that having made the decision to

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Speaker 6: apply that they've checked what the criteria and made sure

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 6: they've got all their ducks lined up so that they

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 6: will meet the criteria. But it isn't a fad to complete.

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 6: It is something. It is an application. The reserve bank

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Speaker 6: has to be satisfied that they do meet all the

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Speaker 6: criteria and that they are suitable to be a registered bank.

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Speaker 6: So I would anticipate that they would get their license,

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 6: get their registration, but it's just not a guarantee.

1508
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: Okay. So on the open banking thing, are you a

1509
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: skeptic on it? I'm a skeptic, are you?

1510
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 5: I am rather a spectic.

1511
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 6: I understand how it operates largely, but I haven't yet

1512
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 6: seen the benefits. And more importantly, I haven't actually seen

1513
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 6: a model that makes it clear how it's going to

1514
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 6: generate a sufficient profit or sufficient revenue for it to

1515
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 6: be profitable for those that are providing those services.

1516
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: And do you believe that it is going to be

1517
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: the game changer that you or I need in order

1518
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: to I don't know, switch banks willingly and bring the

1519
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: profits down and change everything.

1520
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not persuaded that it's going to be that

1521
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 6: sort of game chainment. It will be good for some people,

1522
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 6: and it will make a difference. I'm struggling to see

1523
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 6: that it will be a game changer.

1524
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Claire, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Have

1525
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: a lovely weekend. That's doctor Claire Matthews, who's a massive

1526
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: university banking expert. Hither I just text my husband, who

1527
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: I know is listening to your show Love. Actually is

1528
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 2: tonight's movie Good from You? Good from You? I've already

1529
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 2: I've Oh, oh, I thought we lost another week. I

1530
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: don't worry, and no, it was just a replay. Honestly,

1531
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: it's just miserable. Every time I look at the TV.

1532
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: She just gets sad. We're seventy four for three. Don't

1533
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: worry about looking at the TV.

1534
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 18: You know that.

1535
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh we did just lose one. I just now told

1536
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: you Williamson thirty seven. Oh look, what can I say?

1537
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: I look at that just and honestly, as something is

1538
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: going on. I just happened to look at the TV

1539
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 2: every single time we lose a wicket. Or maybe the

1540
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: truth is I'm actually only half concentrating on what I'm

1541
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: doing from a job, and i' make she's just watching

1542
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: the cricket and that it's not a bad lifestyle. I'm

1543
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you anyway. I already let my

1544
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: husband know. I said to him, we're watching Love actually

1545
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: this summer season. We're going to do it because it

1546
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: is a good time and some and sometimes as a woman,

1547
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: you just need a bit of rage. And you fill

1548
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: your cup of rage when you watch that scene where

1549
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: Emma Thompson pulls out that box and she's expecting to

1550
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: get jewelry because she saw it in his coat, and

1551
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: then she opens it. It's Joni Mitcheel's CD, you know

1552
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: what I mean? And then she goes into the room

1553
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: and cries, do you know what I mean? And you're

1554
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: just angry for the next year until you can fill

1555
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 2: your cup again with love. Actually, So there's a benefit

1556
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: in that just reminds us, which just reminds us to

1557
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: be on the lookout as women, doesn't it. Hither are

1558
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: a few decades back there was a movie about the

1559
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: Battle of Waterloo which included meal breaks because the movie

1560
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: was longer than the actual battle. It was over eight hours. Lord,

1561
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: what a panache, And it has just been rubbish like

1562
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: what it would have been is I haven't seen that

1563
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: because geez, I mean, I don't even get like two hours.

1564
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: Ten at love actually is my absolute limit. So eight

1565
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: hours for a war movie I'm absolutely not gonna do.

1566
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: But I guarantee you what it would have been would

1567
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: have been just lots of shots, like lots of shots

1568
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 2: of men firing guns, just like Epic all the time,

1569
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: and the boys watching it had been like that was awesome,

1570
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: and it really is not awesome at all. I can't

1571
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: believe I'm telling you this, but apparently there are people

1572
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: who are prepared. You know that City to See Bridge

1573
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: in Wellington, you know the one that runs between If

1574
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: you know Wellington, you'll know the one I'm talking about.

1575
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: If you don't know Wellington, trust me, you want to

1576
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: google this because of hideous. You want to google it

1577
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: so you could go, wow, who would build something that ugly?

1578
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: Thank God we don't have that in our city. It's

1579
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: called the City to Seabridge and it's the one that

1580
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: runs from Civic Square over Fire Report Lagoon over to

1581
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: the other side to the INSIDEX Ticker building. And it's

1582
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: almost like some sort of a school project where they've

1583
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: set to the kids, Hey, kids, what we want you

1584
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: to do is draw a bridge that is eco friendly.

1585
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 2: So you're just gonna make it out of stuff that

1586
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: you find on the beach. Okay, so like lots of

1587
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: like drift word and stuff like that. And we wanted

1588
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: to have a real pagan theme to it, okay, so

1589
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: lots of like stars and moons and birds with long

1590
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: necks and weird stuff like that. And what they've come

1591
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: up with is the City to Sea Bridge, which just

1592
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: looks like some dystopian fantasy. It's hideous. Anyway, The council

1593
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: yesterday decided that they were going to demolish the thing

1594
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: because it's now apart from being physically appalling, like it

1595
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: actually makes you want to work because it's so ugly

1596
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: like it's apart from that, it's now also an earthquake risk,

1597
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: which more than qualifies it for obviously being demolished. Unfortunately,

1598
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: the demolition is going to cost about fifty million bucks.

1599
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, but anyway, what you know, the things you

1600
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: have to do to beautify a city. The city Council unanimously,

1601
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: by the sounds of things, voted get rid of the thing.

1602
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: There are people out there who are prepared to put

1603
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: their own money behind saving it. It's completely nuts. There

1604
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: are lawyers, developers, engineers, and architects who hands down seem

1605
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: to have the worst taste in any kind of esthetics. Architects,

1606
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: they love ugly things. These four groups of people have

1607
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: decided that they are prepared to take a judicial review

1608
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: to save the bridge. Can you believe it? If you

1609
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: don't know, If you're like, oh, you being a bit harsh,

1610
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: go and google it city to see bridge and then

1611
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: come back to me and tell me that I'm not

1612
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: being harsh. I would not put a dollar towards saving

1613
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 2: that thing. Frankly. In fact, I think you could just

1614
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: save the demolition costs by going full pag and and

1615
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: just sending it alight, just burning it in a big

1616
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: city thing, a big event where we all just light

1617
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: the thing up and say goodbye to it.

1618
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: Quarter past analysis from the experts, bringing you everything you

1619
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: need to know on the US election. It's the Business

1620
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my Ehr solution for

1621
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: busy SMEs used talks it'd be.

1622
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: Hither. I remember that bridge when it opened. We drove

1623
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: under it and my husband said, oh, it looks like

1624
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: someone has just cut up a load of firewood. It

1625
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: was just bits of chainsword would that? Yep, that's pretty

1626
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: much what it is.

1627
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 8: Yep. So thank you.

1628
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: I'm not alone in feeling like this. Eighteen past six. Hey,

1629
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, rapping the political week

1630
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: that was Barry, welcome back, Hello again. Have you got

1631
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: over your love affair with Boris Johnson? Because that was

1632
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: a remarkable turnaround, wasn't it.

1633
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 13: Well, it was a bit of a turnaround, I've got

1634
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 13: to say. I mean I never really held a view

1635
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 13: one way or the other of Boris Johnson. I always

1636
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 13: felt that he was a bit of an entertainer. He

1637
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 13: was at one stage very popular being the Mayor of

1638
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 13: London and then going on to lead the Conservative Party.

1639
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 13: But as Prime Minister he cooked his own goose during

1640
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 13: the COVID and his partying ways and you know, was

1641
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 13: forced to resign.

1642
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: Don tell us how he managed to get you to

1643
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: flip from basically thinking he was a waste of space

1644
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: to loving him. And I'm asking this on behalf of

1645
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: every single politician in New Zealand who wants to be

1646
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: able to win you over. Ha ha. What does it take?

1647
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 13: Well, look to sit down and talk. And I've always

1648
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 13: said politicians should know the media, They should get to

1649
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 13: know the media, and they should understand the media. And

1650
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 13: watching Boris Johnson on stage at the massive lunch at

1651
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 13: the Quarters, eight hundred guests paying between five hundred and

1652
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 13: two thousand dollars a plate, you know you would expect

1653
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 13: something pretty special.

1654
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 8: To me.

1655
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 13: It was a very ditthery type speech all over the place,

1656
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 13: and when Paul Henry tried to interview him, couldn't get

1657
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 13: a word in edgeways. And when I met him the

1658
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 13: following day at a very small lunch, I had to

1659
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 13: talk to him. And the thing that I found absolutely

1660
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 13: amazing was on meeting me, he said, I heard you

1661
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 13: on radio last night. You were criticizing my performance yesterday.

1662
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 13: And I said, well, yes I was, and he said,

1663
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 13: well I've heard words. And then we went on to

1664
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 13: have a chat and I got to know him reasonably

1665
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 13: well as you can over a bit of a yarn.

1666
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 13: And I said to him, I said, you know, basically,

1667
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 13: you're a journalist. You like telling a good yarn, don't you, Boris,

1668
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 13: because he was a journalist at one stage in his life,

1669
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 13: and he admitted yes, he said, I am a journalist

1670
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 13: at heart, and so it's easy to get along with

1671
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 13: somebody of your own milk if you.

1672
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, because you get on with other journals well

1673
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: at yeah, well most of them. Hey, what was Chris

1674
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: Ppkins thinking ruling Winston Peters out? This is the dumbest

1675
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: thing that I have seen in quite a long time,

1676
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 2: because that leaves him two players that he can form

1677
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 2: government with the Greens and the Maldi Party.

1678
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it wasn't picked up really by the media

1679
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,839
Speaker 13: at all. They looked at other things like the building

1680
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 13: of Dunedin Hospital again at the full cost of over

1681
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 13: three billion dollars where they're gonna get the money from

1682
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 13: her nose and getting out of Orcus.

1683
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: If we go into what do you make of ruling

1684
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: out Winnie Pete, he.

1685
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 13: Said that essentially he ruled him out when he was

1686
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 13: Prime Minister and said that was the best thing he'd

1687
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 13: ever done, which he didn't say he was going to

1688
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 13: rule him out next time, but he indicated certainly that's

1689
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 13: what is what would happen.

1690
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh, so it's not a firm ruling out.

1691
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 13: Well, he didn't say as much. He said it was

1692
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 13: the best thing he had done. So if it was,

1693
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 13: it would be very hard then to reverse that and

1694
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 13: say no, I'm going to work with Winston Peters. He's

1695
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 13: making a big mistake because painting himself into a corner.

1696
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 13: He really firmly believes clearly that this coalition is going

1697
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 13: to be a one term government and he'll be Prime

1698
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 13: Minister again at the end of this government. I think

1699
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 13: he's wishful thinking ruling out Winston Peters going with the

1700
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 13: Moldi Party. Imagine it. I mean, you talk about a

1701
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 13: coalition of chaos that will be a coalition of calamity.

1702
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just think I agree with you. It's

1703
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: a big mistake. That Supreme Court decision, I think is

1704
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: one of the most significant things that happened this week.

1705
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, and interestingly, again the media didn't really pick up

1706
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 13: on it. You know, I thought there would have been

1707
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 13: a public outcry that here was two Court of Appeal

1708
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 13: judges that thought the legislation that was passed in two

1709
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 13: thousand and one set the bar too high for maldi

1710
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 13: on the foreshown seabed issue, and so they set the

1711
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 13: bar too high. So they decided that the Court of

1712
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 13: Appeal was wrong the two judges on it, and they

1713
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 13: going back to it being harder than it was decided

1714
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 13: by the court. So it's a big decision and of

1715
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 13: course the I would imagine Malory will be very disappointed

1716
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 13: with this. But we've barely heard a squeak. Certainly we

1717
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 13: haven't heard much from the Maldi party about it.

1718
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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you that it's kind of interesting

1719
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 2: that it hasn't got enough attention, because I think this

1720
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 2: cuts to the heart of something quite significant going on

1721
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: at the moment, which is this battle between Parliament and

1722
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: the courts for supremacy, and the Supreme Courts basically just

1723
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: come down on the side of Parliament, isn't it.

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 13: Well, it has and of course Parliament is the superior

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01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 13: court in the land, and you know the courts are

1726
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 13: there to not to interpret law, but to administer law

1727
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 13: that has passed in Parliament. And clearly you've seen some

1728
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 13: judges not going down that track but interpreting the law

1729
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Speaker 13: as they see it. Well, I'm sorry. If you've got

1730
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 13: law makers, you've got to abide by the laws that

1731
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 13: they make.

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Speaker 2: To right, Barry listen, thanks very much, appreciate it, Barry,

1733
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: so for seeing your political corresp here. The stop looking

1734
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: because we lost another one. You I right, Pip, thank you,

1735
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: we did. I looked up to catch Daryl Mitchell being

1736
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: caught for six, so that's happened as well, so we're

1737
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: seventy nine for five. Paul Ridley Smith has just sent

1738
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: me a really interesting text actually on why we shouldn't

1739
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: demolish the bridge and I actually this is Wellington, by

1740
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: the way, I say, we like I still live there.

1741
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 2: Thank god I don't, because otherwise I would be paying

1742
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 2: for that bridge. I will get you through across that

1743
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: very shortly six twenty.

1744
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: Three, crunching than others and getting the results. It's Heather

1745
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Duplessy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to my HR

1746
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: the HR solution for busy smy's on News Talks FB.

1747
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Here's the text on the bridge. Heather, You're so so

1748
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: wrong on the city to see bridge. It's not earthquake

1749
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 2: prone at all. That's just counsel and Tim Brown nonsense.

1750
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: It may be ugly, but forty seven million dollars for

1751
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: a bankruptcity to demolish it and put in a pedestrian

1752
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: crossing is only something that Wellington City Council could dream up.

1753
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: That's from Paul, who actually incidentally used to be my neighbor.

1754
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: And Paul is a very smart guy and actually believe him.

1755
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: He's completely right. Here's the alternative though, and I'll what

1756
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: this is gonna sound shocking to you, but it's actually

1757
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: not a stupid idea. Let's accept that the bridge is

1758
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: earthquake prone and that if there was an earthquake while

1759
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 2: somebody was on the bridge they would die. Just leave it,

1760
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: leave the bridge. Just be like, Okay, someone's gonna die

1761
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 2: on the bridge one day, so who cares? Because people thought, like,

1762
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: there's a warf just down the road in Wellington where

1763
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 2: about eight or nine people have fallen off and drowned.

1764
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: People die on the road just down there from the bridge,

1765
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: So there's like things killing people in Wellington all the time.

1766
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: On the odd chance that there is an earthquake and

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Speaker 2: the bridge happens to kill someone, I think maybe we'd

1768
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: just be like, look, don't walk on the bridge in

1769
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: case there's an earthquake. The rest of you walking on

1770
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: the bridge, if there's an earthquake, you're gonna die and

1771
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: put people just like, leave it to people to make

1772
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: that decision. I'm fine with that now. Anyway, I haven't

1773
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: been here for the Spotify things, so I opened up

1774
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: my Spotify rap Rap of the Year to see what's

1775
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 2: been going on? And I have listened to Spotify this

1776
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: year for forty thousand minutes. I've listened to two nine

1777
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: and forty nine songs. I thought it was pretty good.

1778
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: My top song is this one. That's right, Yeah, yeah,

1779
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: that's again. That's what my life is like. Do it again?

1780
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: Ends Mamma, won't pop a dumb and you can add

1781
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: it how much I have streamed this song ninety times.

1782
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: All top five songs are Wiggles songs. Apparently you describe

1783
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: discovered it on the eleventh of May and it hasn't

1784
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: stopped since then. This is such a musical representation of

1785
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: a mother's life, isn't it like? Even on Spotify. I

1786
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: have lost my identity. It's been scrubbed and replaced by

1787
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: my child. My body's been hijacked by the second child.

1788
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: There's an alien side my body right now for an

1789
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: object in there and forever from now on. At Kindy,

1790
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: I'm not Heather, I'm Iggy's mum Ah.

1791
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1792
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr.

1793
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: The HR Solution for Busy SMEs neu Stalks at b everyone's.

1794
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 15: Gathering around the phone.

1795
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 10: Just that'sposed like a hated Pasha Reacher and the worm

1796
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 10: of folks are no.

1797
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: What was the lat sort of the cricket for the

1798
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: day New Zealand is eighty six for five. So let's

1799
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: hope that we have a better day tomorrow than we

1800
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: did today and somehow not going to hold my breath heither.

1801
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: My kids have never heard of the Wiggles. Ac DC

1802
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: is perfect for children. Great beat the rock when they're

1803
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: awake and the rhythm helps them sleep when they're tired.

1804
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: Now you tell me James, great tip. Thank you twenty

1805
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: three away from seven and Peter lewis our Asia business

1806
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: correspondence with us now at Peter, Hello, Hello, So where

1807
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 2: are we with the impeachment proceedings?

1808
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 21: Well, the votes was due to be tomorrow, but right

1809
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 21: now there is a meeting going on between the leaders

1810
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 21: of Present Yun's People's Power Party and the president's himself.

1811
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 21: It looks like the leader of the president's own party

1812
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 21: is going to vote for him to be impeached, or

1813
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 21: he can't himself, but he is calling for his own

1814
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 21: MPs to actually vote for the impeachment because he says

1815
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 21: there is a risk that President Yun could try and

1816
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 21: impose martial law again. Now, the deputy Defense minister, who's

1817
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 21: taken over since the Defense Minister himself resigned, denies that's true.

1818
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 21: But the leader of the ruling president's party is saying

1819
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 21: he had evidence that President Yun planned to arrest and

1820
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 21: detain MPs on the floor of the Assembly on Tuesday night,

1821
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 21: and he says there's a real risk that this could

1822
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 21: happen again, and this is a president who absolutely needs

1823
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 21: to be removed from power soon to protect democracy in

1824
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 21: South Korea. To win the impeachment vote, the opposition parties

1825
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 21: don't have enough votes on their own. They need eight

1826
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 21: members of the governing party to cross the floor and

1827
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 21: vote with them, and it was thought originally that they

1828
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 21: wouldn't be able to get them to do that. But

1829
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 21: now after this intervention from the head of the ruling party,

1830
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 21: it seems much more likely that the impeachment vote will succeed,

1831
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 21: and I think if it doesn't, we could well see

1832
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 21: protests and demonstrators out on the streets over the weekend.

1833
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Speaker 2: How on earth would he have justified this move to

1834
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,440
Speaker 2: himself because it looks I mean, it's such an outlandish

1835
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: thing to do.

1836
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 21: It is, and it's hard to imagine what he was

1837
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 21: thinking at the time. I mean, this is a president

1838
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 21: who is deeply unpopular. He only just scraped into power

1839
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 21: in the general election. He won by about three quarters

1840
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 21: of one percent of the votes. He's a lame duck president.

1841
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 21: He can't rule because the opposition parties control Parliament, so

1842
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 21: many of his measures failed to get through, and he

1843
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 21: in turn vetos any measures proposed by the opposition party.

1844
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 21: So if there were to be a general election again,

1845
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 21: it's quite possible that he would be voted voted out.

1846
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 21: The only thing I can think maybe was going through

1847
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 21: his mind was he must have known that MPs could

1848
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 21: overturn the impeachments, so maybe he thought he could gain

1849
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 21: control of Parliament and stop MP's voting. And we've heard

1850
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 21: that the head of the Defense Forces that were sent

1851
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 21: to Parliament along with his troops only learned about the

1852
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 21: martial law declaration on television and when he got to

1853
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 21: the floor of Parliament he refused to arrest MPs on

1854
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 21: the floor. So it could be that President Yun thought

1855
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 21: that the Defense Minister and troops will be able to

1856
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 21: stop any sort of vote to overturn this, but that failed,

1857
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 21: but clearly a totally botched attempt, and the rest of

1858
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 21: the world in turn looks on a ghast. I mean,

1859
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 21: we had martial law in effects for six hours, maybe

1860
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 21: the shortest period of martial law in history. But nevertheless

1861
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 21: it looks totally chaotic, not the sort of thing you

1862
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 21: expect to see in a developed economy.

1863
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Near too right, Hey, explain to me quickly, how is

1864
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: the EU going to crack down on Timu and Shine.

1865
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 21: Well, they're going to start cracking down first of all,

1866
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 21: on the exemptions that they get for these small packages

1867
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 21: that they're able to send over to the EU. And

1868
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 21: this is how Timu and Shine in effect make their money,

1869
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 21: because they get around customs checks and various taxes as

1870
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 21: they do in the US, by making sure that the

1871
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 21: parcels are below a certain limits and therefore they don't

1872
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 21: get inspected. But the EU says this means that a

1873
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 21: lot of things that are really banned in the EU

1874
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 21: get through. Things like dangerous toys, for example, are shipped

1875
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 21: over because they're below this one hundred and fifty euro

1876
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 21: threshold for customs duties. So I think what they're going

1877
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 21: to do is lower that threshold and try and make

1878
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 21: sure that they get to court in this tax net

1879
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 21: to try and stop some of these some of these

1880
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 21: shipments being made to the EU. Very similar process to

1881
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 21: what the US is talking about doing as well with

1882
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 21: Timu and Shine.

1883
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff, I really really interesting. Crackdown on it, Peter, listen,

1884
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: thank you very much and go well, have a good

1885
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: risk of the year, and we'll check to you again

1886
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 2: in the new year. Well at some stage, look after yourself.

1887
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: It's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent out of Hong Kong.

1888
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 2: Coming up eighteen away from seven new talks. It'd be well, whichwause.

1889
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: I haven't been here all week, right, I'm just catching

1890
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: you up on some of the important things. And one

1891
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: of the important things. I don't know if you were

1892
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: aware of this, but I was very happy to see

1893
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: this happen. The government has stepped in to sort out

1894
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 2: the Marsden Fund messed mess and start forcing basically the

1895
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Marsden Fund to start funding projects that are actually worthwhile

1896
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: to the country.

1897
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 5: Now.

1898
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know what a shambles this

1899
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: thing is. I've been following what's going on because the

1900
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Taxpayers Union have done quite an admirable job of keeping

1901
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: a spotlight on what the Marsden Fund has been up to.

1902
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: The Marsden Fund is supposed to be a science fund.

1903
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: It's a very big fund, and it's administered by the

1904
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: Royal Society, and they are supposed to give out money

1905
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: to very prestigious you know, it's a prestigious thing to

1906
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: get to very promising projects in the hope that they will,

1907
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, go on to greater things and stuff.

1908
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 2: And it was doing really well apparently until Grant Robinson

1909
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: got involved a few years ago and started messing with

1910
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: the funding criteria and so a bunch of stuff he did.

1911
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 2: The first thing is he said, it doesn't just have

1912
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: to go to science science. It can go to you know,

1913
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: science like social sciences and humanities, which I think, even

1914
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: as somebody who studied the humanities, I think we all

1915
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: know is not really science science science, if you know

1916
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: what I mean. So he just expanded it like bird

1917
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: spend it on whatever, and they did, and also they

1918
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: introduced quotas at some stage, so at least twenty percent

1919
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: of the money that they give out, the fellowships they

1920
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: give out have to go to MARI and at least

1921
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: ten percent have to go to PACIFICA and at least

1922
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: fifty percent have to go to women's So it's not

1923
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: have you got the most baller idea, You've got the

1924
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: best idea and this is epic Wow. No, doesn't work

1925
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: like that. It's can you are you Mari? Okay, you

1926
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 2: can have some money, and are you PACIFICA yep? Okay,

1927
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: and you're a lady okay, cool, you can have some money.

1928
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Speaker 2: That's a mental way of doling out taxpayer cash. But anyway,

1929
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Speaker 2: get a load of what they've been spending the money

1930
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 2: on projects like this linking the celestial spheres to end

1931
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 2: of life experiences. This research investigates what compelled Mari to

1932
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Speaker 2: link the celestial sphere matsariki in particular with death. The

1933
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Speaker 2: research hopes to rekindle the ancient connection to the stars

1934
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Speaker 2: and reimagine the meaning of death. Yay, that looks like

1935
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Speaker 2: if we put eight hundred and sixty one thousand dollars

1936
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Speaker 2: into that, I feel like it's going to be really

1937
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 2: beneficial to the country, and we're just going to make

1938
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: so much money off that. Not but we put the

1939
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Speaker 2: money in. Anyway, there was also the project that I

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Speaker 2: quite enjoyed a tensity ta affirming tax system design because

1941
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: unfortunately Maldive voices have been largely absent from discussion on

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Speaker 2: tax policy and altier at all. So this research will

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Speaker 2: take inspiration from other countries with codesign tax systems that

1944
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 2: affirm the rights of indigenous people, because that's what I

1945
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: wanted from my tax system. I don't know about you.

1946
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like a lot of people just want quite

1947
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Speaker 2: basic taxation where you take some money and then you

1948
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: spend it on other stuff, take as little as you need,

1949
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 2: spend it on the best projects. But no, you've got

1950
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: to think bigger. You've got to think about how it

1951
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 2: can reaffirm the rights of indigenous people. So we put

1952
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty three thousand dollars into that one.

1953
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: And then my absolute favorite, which is virtual voyagers amplifying

1954
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: Pacific girl game of voices, because there is nothing I

1955
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 2: love more than girl gamers. I don't know about it,

1956
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 2: but I don't want to hear their voices. So let's

1957
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: put some money into that. How much three hundred and

1958
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars or JC Judith Collins, who does not

1959
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: brook a lot of shiit looked at it and went no,

1960
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: we're not gonna No, we're not gonna play that game anymore. Guys. Thanks,

1961
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: that was awesome. I hope you really enjoyed all the

1962
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,879
Speaker 2: free money that you got for your really weird ideas.

1963
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Just put an end to it. No more humanities, no

1964
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: more social sciences, garbage. The independent panels that have up

1965
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 2: to now been handing out the money quite badly, they're

1966
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: gone by next year. And every application, and this is

1967
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: a bit I like the most, every application for funding

1968
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 2: must now describe its potential to generate economic, environmental or

1969
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Speaker 2: health benefits to New Zealand. Thank you, Yes, we'll have

1970
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: some benefits for our money. And fifty percent of grants

1971
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: from the Marsden Fund each year must have the potential

1972
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Speaker 2: for economic benefit. Amen and hallelujah. Fourteen away from.

1973
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Seven, Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business

1974
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicus and my Hr the HR solution

1975
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: for busy SMEs on News talks'bhither it.

1976
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Speaker 2: Sounds like the taxpayer gravy train has gone it, doesn't it?

1977
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 2: And isn't it good? Twelve away from seven Gavin Gray

1978
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Speaker 2: Are UK correspondence here. Hey, Gavin, either have it now

1979
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: do you reckon mccron's gonna survive this?

1980
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Speaker 19: Well, it's going to be an interesting few days for him.

1981
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 19: I mean, the French can't hold another election until July.

1982
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 19: That's because there has to be a minimum of a

1983
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 19: one year change, a one year delay between the elections.

1984
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 19: And I have to say, when he called it, he

1985
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 19: thought he was going to strengthen his hand this snap election.

1986
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 19: Instead voters went the other way. There are now three

1987
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 19: equal blocks or pretty much equal in Parliament, meaning he

1988
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 19: can't really get anything done because they won't agree with

1989
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 19: one another. The Prime minister resigned this week, the shortest

1990
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 19: term for any prime minister in the Fifth Republic, and

1991
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 19: then last night Emmanual Macron on television saying that people

1992
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 19: were playing politics. He was going to put in a

1993
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Speaker 19: new prime minister in the next few days. But it's

1994
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 19: looking very bad for France. The stock markets, the investors

1995
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 19: don't like it, the financiers don't like it, and looking

1996
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 19: bad for Emmanual Macron. Can he really weather the storm

1997
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 19: to see it through to the.

1998
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Speaker 1: End of his term?

1999
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Speaker 2: If he doesn't wither it, what does it look like

2000
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: for him? If it goes really badly for you?

2001
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, well, I think chaos really is the

2002
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 19: thing because the country has twice the deficit permitted by

2003
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Speaker 19: the European Union. Double the deficit. Now, when the UK

2004
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 19: went over that deficit limit, I think I'm right in

2005
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 19: saying we were fined very heavily, and yet somehow France

2006
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 19: double the deficit. It needs to tackle it. It needs

2007
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 19: to raise taxes, it needs to cut spending, neither of

2008
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 19: which would be popular, but things that other countries have

2009
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 19: had to do or been forced on them by the

2010
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Speaker 19: European Union. I'm not saying that'll happen here, but something

2011
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 19: needs to change, and change fast, because France's economy is

2012
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Speaker 19: heading in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting. Hey, so why is the kesh use

2014
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Speaker 2: going up in the UK?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: I think it's predominantly a thing that many people are

2017
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Speaker 19: struggling with the new technology. And we've had the loss

2018
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 19: of a lot of banks here and that has led,

2019
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Speaker 19: i think, to with thousands of bank closures. I mean

2020
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 19: in small towns and villages, but in cities too, and

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01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 19: that's led to many old people or those without very

2022
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 19: good technology or digital skills really being isolated in that

2023
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Speaker 19: they feel they can't sort of move their money around

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Speaker 19: as they wanted to. And one good reason that cash

2025
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 19: is being used is it helps people budget better. And

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01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 19: so here in the UK, for the second consecutive year

2027
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 19: in a row, we've seen the number of cash transactions

2028
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Speaker 19: in shops increase and that yes, the previous decades showed

2029
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Speaker 19: a steep fall, but cash is now used in about

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Speaker 19: one in five transactions in a shop. The amount has

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Speaker 19: slightly gone down. It kind of wrestles around that fifty

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Speaker 19: New Zealand dollar mark is the average spend per transaction,

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Speaker 19: but certainly it does seem to be gaining a bit

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Speaker 19: of traction. There are, however, many places now that are

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Speaker 19: non cash, so card only, and that's that's something that

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01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 19: many people say, you know, completely rules out some customers

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Speaker 19: going in them.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it actually helps you budget better?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it.

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Speaker 19: Doesn't make much difference for me, but I do like

2041
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Speaker 19: spending in cash and I do actually find as well,

2042
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 19: and sometimes you get a better deal. So obviously depends

2043
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 19: what you're buying and depends where you are a.

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Speaker 2: Dealgevin, are you guys that's a little under the table

2045
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 2: Jobby there who said that?

2046
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 19: No, no, no, I just think that you know, some

2047
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 19: of the stores look at you absolutely ghast. I was

2048
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 19: in one the other day. I got out a twenty

2049
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 19: pound note roughly forty five New Zealand dollars. The person

2050
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 19: looked at me like I was from Mars, and I said,

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01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 19: you have to accept this.

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Speaker 2: This is legal tender. Yeah, a very good point, Gavin,

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Speaker 2: look after yourself. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Devin Gray Ore, UK correspondent This evening eight away from seven, getting.

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Speaker 1: Ready for a new administration in the US.

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Speaker 4: What will be the impact?

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Speaker 1: It's The Business Hour with Hither Duplicy Allen and my

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01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: HR the HR solution for busy Isms, News Talks ind B.

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Speaker 2: Five away from seven. I'm getting a lot of texts

2060
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: saying thanks for coming in, You're welcome, thank you for

2061
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 2: having me when I'm obviously under the weather and not not.

2062
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm just it's just weird. I'm just being a bit

2063
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: bizarre today, a bit strange. Somebody sent me a text

2064
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: earlier and was like, what the hell's going wrong with

2065
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: you today? You just do this is the show is

2066
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 2: the loosest it's ever been, And frankly I can't disagree

2067
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 2: with you. It is loose, but that's what happens when

2068
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 2: you have four days sitting at home going a bit crazy,

2069
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: and then you come in and your mind doesn't actually

2070
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 2: work properly. Actually, can I tell you something, This is weird.

2071
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 2: I can't taste anything. It's I've had I've had COVID

2072
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 2: before I had I had RONA the first time round

2073
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: when we all got rona, do you know what I mean?

2074
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 2: Apart from some strange people who didn't. For the most part,

2075
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 2: we got it and it wasn't that bad, and everything

2076
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 2: went back to normal and didn't lose my sense of

2077
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 2: taste or smell or anything. And then I probably got

2078
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: ron a few more times, just a little cold or

2079
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 2: something like that. All this time, I cannot taste a

2080
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 2: single thing. I was barbecuing last night, and you know,

2081
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: you get your your lovely little like charring the meat

2082
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: smoke that comes off, you know, And I was thinking

2083
01:37:55,800 --> 01:38:00,560
Speaker 2: about it, and I thought, it's quite interesting that, excuse me,

2084
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 2: quite interesting that today the meat doesn't smell like anything,

2085
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 2: like what. That's weird. Obviously I'm not thinking like a

2086
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 2: normal healthy person because it is quite weird. It doesn't

2087
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 2: smell like anything. And then my friend said, oh, that

2088
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: smells delicious. And I was like what. Then I realized

2089
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 2: I cannot smell a single thing. I cannot taste a

2090
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: single thing, So there is no enjoyment in eating. I

2091
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 2: don't know if I smell bad, I could. You know,

2092
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: you know how that some days you have like a

2093
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 2: really sweety day, and you catch a smell of yourself

2094
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, yeah, oh, just stay away from people.

2095
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: I have no sense of what I smell like, and

2096
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: so I google it could be terrible, and so it

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01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: probably is. And so I googled it today to find

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01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 2: out how long it takes to get your sense of

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01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: tastes and smell back, because I am operating on zero

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01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 2: at the moment, and it can take a year and

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01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 2: a half. A year and a half. That is frightening,

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01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 2: terrifying as and on.

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Speaker 6: That happy note, wags the dog by the wiggles to.

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01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: Get cool, because I don't have enough of this in

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01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 2: my life already. I was going to say, it's just

2106
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 2: total embrace it, Heather.

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Speaker 6: You can't taste anything, you can't smell anything, and this

2108
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 6: is your playlist.

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01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: Great, we've just got to accept that as reality and.

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Speaker 6: Move on and have a happy Christmas anyway, have a

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Speaker 6: great Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Heather, Yeah, Merry Christmas to you. I'm not going to

2113
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: be on the show for the rest of the year.

2114
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go and do the do they

2115
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 2: pay me more for it? I don't know, go and

2116
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: do the early morning check. He gets paid a lot

2117
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 2: for it. Do you think I should have good news?

2118
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 2: You have to wake up super early in the morning.

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01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 2: He can't taste anything, can't smell anything, massively pregnant. Waking

2120
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Speaker 2: up at two thirty and then having to come home

2121
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: and listen to the Wiggles. Awesome, It's just great as

2122
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Thank you for being awesome this year. Andy,

2123
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 2: thanks for being here. When Laura just decides to have

2124
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 2: days off, I know she's just like she's like Friday

2125
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 2: Friday party time. Thank you for being here. Merry Christmas,

2126
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: and Merry Christmas to you, and thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: And I'll see you next year. After the baby and

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01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: everything and the smell and everything. He's back. See then.

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Speaker 1: No for more of from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen

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Speaker 1: live to News Talks at b from four pm weekdays,

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