1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell Weather's along with Ginny Anderson. Good 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: morning you too, Morning morning, good morning. Do you have 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Ginny with you your youth MP? 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Not besides me, but we've been in close contact over 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: the last few days, particularly considering all of the drama 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: that's been happening at Parliament. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Well, well, come back to that drama in the moment. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Where is your youth MP right now. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: That say they're getting ready to go into Youth Parliament, 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: they'll be there in so they'll be getting into the 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: bus or how they're getting there, and I will be 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: watching his debate in the General debate at about half 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: past ten this morning. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: Have you given them any Anderson tips? 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Of course? Alice, Yeah, Like it's really quite hard when 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: you're speaking for the first time in the house because 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I always remember when I did my maiden speech. You 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: don't know who to look at. You know, when you 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: get up to talk to a room, you sort of 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: look at the front row, or look at someone who's smiling, 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: or your mum if she's there and there's no one there. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: It's sort of you're looking at the speaker and you've 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: got these sort of angry looking opposition people or government 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: depending on where you are at the time, So knowing 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: where to look and to take a breath and not 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: going too fast, all those things. You want to make 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: sure they have thought about. 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: Those, did you, Because one I've observed of you, Jinny, 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: is that you're a lecturn gripper. 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I am a lejendripper, did you fever? It's just 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: with a pin. I've told as well, I need to 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: put my pin down. I can point that around a bit. 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Mark, Did you tell them to grip the lecturn? 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: Usually it's to give me a bit of extra height 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: because I have trouble. I'm vertically challenged, so sometimes that 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: can push me up a bit further. No, I didn't 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: tell him that. I just told him to enjoy it 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: for what it is and to get you know, have 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: a good time is what it's about. 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Mark, your MP. Whereas where as your MP. As we speak, she's. 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: On her way and now to Parliament. She's absolutely loving 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: the experience. She delivered a very good General debate speech yesterday. 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: She spoke about mental health. She spoke about, you know, 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: the negative impact of drugs Class A drugs on our 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: country and communities. And she's a really patiate young woman 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: that actually has already in year thirteen started up a 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: little charity that she's delivering aid into the Pacific Islands 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: and in particular. 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, is yours impressive to Ginny? I mean, you've 50 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: got to say obviously. 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Genuinely, Yeah, as amazing. He's our first year university student. 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: He comes from a family of eleven, and he's proud 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: someone active in the community and winery and really I've 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: really enjoyed going to local events with him. So he's 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: come out with me over the last couple of days 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: to attend different community engagements, in particular Clever and you 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: know he's going to be a leader in New Zealand. 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Have you met any other ones, Mark, I mean there 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: are any idiots in there. 60 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: I've met a few that was sort of you know, 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: it's like it's like it's like any parliament. You're going 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: to get some top quality ones and you get some 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: sort of stretch. You wonder, well there even applied to 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: be there. But look, in my views, yeah, I love it. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: It's I heard that someone's getting up making a speech 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: saying that you don't have it a voice in New Zealand. Well, 67 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a contradiction in terms is that 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: when it's standing up in our parliament being able to 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: talk about issues that are important young people and what. 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Was yesterday about In this whole we've been repressed and 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to say what we want in the 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: ministry of whoever runs it's gone on. Is any of 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: that true or not? 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: It is true? 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: It is true, It is true. 76 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen the email. So they write a speech 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: for the first time ever, they were required to submit 78 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: it for approval, and there were things that were taken out. 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: I've seen more than my UTHMP and a few others 80 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: where when they talked about pay equity, the Treaty principles, 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: one instance, growing up at a home where there's not 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: enough food or affording to be able to pay for 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: the heating to be on in winter, all those things 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: were to be removed and they had to be resubmitted 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: with them taken out. 86 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: And is this the ministry? 87 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Well, who knows? Is it the minister telling the ministry 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: or is it just the ministry? We will never know. 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'd have to check on that, but I know 90 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: that when Labor and Government all the speeches were also 91 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: made content was okay. So we'd have to look at that, and. 92 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: We clarified that are you Mark Mark for the record, 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: are you running a repressive regime here? 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: No, definitely not that. Quite the opposite. The repressive regime, 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: the regime that told everyone that they were the pulp 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: of the truth was the previous government, not this one. 97 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: If you're the one telling young people they can't say 98 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: what they think in their. 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: Head, the problem with you, problem with Jenny Fax is 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: you got to go and check them, fact check them. 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: So let me go on fact check that you do that, 102 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Genny fact a couple of minutes quickly on this business, 103 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: but big week for the government. Mark on Justice, Crime 104 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: first responds, instant fines King, he's the whole thing. What 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: materially do you expect to happen as a result of 106 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: these changes. 107 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: Well, I think they all add to some weight around 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: a system, change around consequences, and I think that's been 109 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: missing in our country for quite a long time, and 110 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: it's time that consequences were brought back. People don't get 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: a free ride when they decide to walk into someone's 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: business and steal from them, when they decide to abuse 113 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: or assault workers who go to work expecting to be 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: able to go home safely at the end of their shift. 115 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: So I think that we've as a government, we've been 116 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: really clear, and we came into government we were sick 117 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: and tired of the fact that there were no consequences, 118 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: that crime had been allowed to get completely out of 119 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: control of this country. And we're pushing back and we're 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: starting to make some progress in the right direction. 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Ginny, is there anything announced this week that you 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: guys would flip or will you live with all of it? 123 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: Well, the problem we have, Mike, is that because they 124 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: failed to deliver their promise of five hundred police, all 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: of these things are trying to compensate for the fact 126 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: that they've missed the mark on what they promised. Key 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: is that they would do, so I don't think we'd 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: flip them. But there are things that are a bit year, 129 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: like the shoplifting, like the previous or the current level 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: for shoplifting is that it's seven years for over one 131 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: thousand dollars now, so they've actually lowered the threshold for 132 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: shoplifting through these changes. So let me finish that. So 133 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: currently it's five hundred three months of five hundred. If 134 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: it's under a k you get a year. If it's 135 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: over one thousand, you get seven years. And they're saying 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: that they've got this two thousand marks, So for shoplifting 137 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: between one thousand and two thousand dollars, they've actually lowered 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: the amount that people. 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: But just for the record, the first responders, the king Hits, 140 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: sucker punch, whatever you want to call them, the instant 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: finds in the discount. You wouldn't change that in some 142 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: in simple terms. 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: We would take all those things to caucus. But I 144 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: think that it's important first responders are safe. All those 145 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: things are important changes, but the ability to make sure 146 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: that they are implemented relies on having a well resourced frontline. 147 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: And well, I'm. 148 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: Glad, I'm glad that you. 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm glad you're going to support our first responders because, 150 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: first of all, a big shout out to bus drivers. Second, 151 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: big shout out to Andy Everest, who is a leader 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: with Saint John's and he has been meeting with me 153 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: regularly on the wanting to see the first Responders bill 154 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: walk back. Just let me give you some history here. 155 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: Derek Ball, who felt very strongly about this New Zealand 156 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: first Member of Parliament at the time. They went out 157 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: of Parliament twenty twenty asked me to pick up his 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: first Responders bill and said that he had they were 159 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: in government if you remember, with Labor, and said he 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: had support for it. I picked it up. I could 161 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: not yet Labor support for a first responders bill. They 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: voted it down. So it's nice to hear Jenny that 163 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: you have changed your position. 164 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: In mon again. 165 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: Mark, is it a Mark fact because I said it's 166 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: going to caucus. So Mark Fax's time. 167 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: On the There's nothing you can argue about here as 168 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: the gener. 169 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Look, they're all good measures, but they need one. Actually, 170 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: someone has written to me in the last few hours 171 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: and said they're a bus driver and they're really worried 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: about the level of violence at bust drivers face not 173 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: a point why they are included along with ambulance drivers. 174 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: Why should someone get a longer presence intent for punching 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: an ambulance driver in the face. 176 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: Well, because this government is serious about looking after all 177 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: kiwis and whatever work. And I just want to address 178 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: your five hundred. When I became minister, we were two 179 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: hundred down. Do you know why? That's because you and 180 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: I just I just want to say before Mark, let me, 181 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: let me give a share out to our police officers, because. 182 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Even with Mark, it's not telethoned, we're not we're not 183 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: giving him. Well, well, let me. 184 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: Let me I just I do feel, I do I 185 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: do feel. I do feel very strongly that I want 186 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: to defend your frontline police officers who. 187 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: The police do a great job. But I think I 188 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: watched Chambers yesterday. To be fair, Mark, I watched Chambers yesterday. 189 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I think we can conclude you're not going to get 190 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: to five hundred before the end of the year like 191 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: you promised. 192 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: Well, the five hundred with got to focus on standards 193 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: because in twenty eighteen the standards were dropped and discretion 194 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: was so and so we're in stating that. And at 195 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: the time I slipt committee. I challenged the government. I said, 196 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: you can't be doing this. So we're reversing that. I've 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: done that. 198 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got sixty seconds left, yes, yeah. 199 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: Just just really quickly though. No, Sorry, Jenny, Sorry, Jenny, 200 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: look sorry, Jenny. I want to acknowledge the police effect 201 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: that crimers crimes starting to come down, Jenny, This is 202 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: important to people. Crimes starting to come down, Victimized victimizations 203 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: are starting to come. 204 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Right, let's do this an election quickly, quickly, I've got 205 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: sixty seconds. Did either of you ever meet Mitchunkovic and 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: did she do anything useful before she came? And she went. 207 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Radio silence? 208 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Who she's the MP who's resigned? Oh oh right, No, 209 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I have. 210 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: Better And I think that she just felt like her 211 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: skills a bit of use in the private secret at 212 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 3: the moment. And I respect the fiction made that decision. 213 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry to use your first name. I would 214 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: have known that. I don't know. I think you know, 215 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: I know who's talking about. I think there's more to 216 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: that story. It's quite bizarre someone would resign so quickly 217 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: without anything more to that, So I think. 218 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: A scandal at the end of the segment like that. 219 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: Going back to privacytor, they are conspiracy to this, My 220 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: great news. 221 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: We opened down New Auckland came. 222 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I show you what's John Key doing there? For goodness sake? 223 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: He said that they need a hug. They can come 224 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: and call me. What's that about. 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's the patron. So each wing has got 226 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: a patron. In fact, we should put you forward one 227 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: of these. I'd love to be a patron. Okay, noted, 228 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 3: because what the patrons do. Every police officer, remember, see 229 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: the patron was of the wing and they spend time 230 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: with you. For God's sake, you'd be a great patron. 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: Listens, you could if you give them Rickens on the 232 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: front line, how they could deal with tricky situation. 233 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: Exactly. I've got bipartisan support to become a patron. I 234 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: don't care who wins the election next to you now, 235 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: either way, I'm going to be a patron, aren't i? 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: Ginny, Yeah, Mike hoskings Wing and we'll go down in history. 237 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: I reckon. 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: We're going to nice to see you. But you still 239 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: think there's something to the Unklevich story, do you, Jenny? 240 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: It just seems I don't know. I think there's a 241 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: bit more to it. You will even know, But. 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Mark Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson for another week. 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