1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fyne 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,427 Speaker 2: EDB Diamond Packer. He's cut him through on the inside, 4 00:00:15,507 --> 00:00:18,267 Speaker 2: quint through Pyre and he's fiftieth. He's gonna score under 5 00:00:18,267 --> 00:00:21,787 Speaker 2: the post quint through Pire scores and he's fiftieth game 6 00:00:22,067 --> 00:00:25,147 Speaker 2: under the stixt pet comes to Pois Bye put it 7 00:00:25,187 --> 00:00:27,747 Speaker 2: at the pire. The whys gingna peg of double who 8 00:00:27,947 --> 00:00:31,787 Speaker 2: yes Dupi scored in the corner by the Crusaders. They're 9 00:00:31,787 --> 00:00:34,307 Speaker 2: getting dealt to. It's forty six seventeenth. 10 00:00:34,387 --> 00:00:39,027 Speaker 3: Oh, great delight. In the commentary box last night, Minty Graham, 11 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:41,627 Speaker 3: Minty Mead with the core. Fantastic stuff mate, the Chiefs 12 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:45,787 Speaker 3: winning forty nine twenty four in Hamilton, piling on five 13 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:47,707 Speaker 3: tries in the second half with a couple there as 14 00:00:47,707 --> 00:00:51,307 Speaker 3: you heard to Quintupyre, who dotted down twice on the 15 00:00:51,307 --> 00:00:54,667 Speaker 3: occasion of his fiftieth match. The victory margin of twenty 16 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:58,587 Speaker 3: five points is the biggest buy the Chiefs over the 17 00:00:58,587 --> 00:01:02,507 Speaker 3: Crusaders in the history of Super rugby. So how happy 18 00:01:02,667 --> 00:01:05,227 Speaker 3: is their coach? Let's bring him in. Clayton McMillan is 19 00:01:05,227 --> 00:01:07,627 Speaker 3: with us Clayton Congression on the wind last night. How 20 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:10,507 Speaker 3: much did you enjoy the performance that you side put on. 21 00:01:11,827 --> 00:01:14,187 Speaker 4: Yeah, made it was good. I like that second half. 22 00:01:15,347 --> 00:01:18,227 Speaker 4: We really got some wind in ourselves and always played 23 00:01:18,267 --> 00:01:22,187 Speaker 4: some outstanding rugby and now it was a really pleasing result. 24 00:01:22,667 --> 00:01:25,307 Speaker 3: Seventeen all worth half an hour ago, and then twenty 25 00:01:25,307 --> 00:01:28,787 Speaker 3: five minutes later you're ahead forty six points to seventeen. 26 00:01:28,867 --> 00:01:31,827 Speaker 3: Can you just talk us through your reflections on that 27 00:01:31,907 --> 00:01:33,267 Speaker 3: period of the game in particular. 28 00:01:33,987 --> 00:01:37,147 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think again it was tight game right up 29 00:01:37,187 --> 00:01:40,267 Speaker 4: until about the fiftieth minute, and both teams have beaten 30 00:01:40,867 --> 00:01:42,987 Speaker 4: sort of stepping the energy out of each other, and 31 00:01:43,507 --> 00:01:47,147 Speaker 4: it's got a good injection again from our bench. I've 32 00:01:47,147 --> 00:01:49,827 Speaker 4: got some experienced campaigners and some athletes that can come 33 00:01:49,867 --> 00:01:53,147 Speaker 4: on and inject some speed and give us some front football. 34 00:01:54,267 --> 00:01:56,587 Speaker 4: But we're just technically smart too. We just kept putting 35 00:01:57,027 --> 00:01:59,347 Speaker 4: a little kicks in behind that made it hard for 36 00:01:59,387 --> 00:02:01,227 Speaker 4: them to exit out of their twenty two and I 37 00:02:01,227 --> 00:02:03,427 Speaker 4: guess that accumulated pressure just so it's. 38 00:02:03,267 --> 00:02:05,947 Speaker 3: Toll in the I know that you were sort of 39 00:02:05,947 --> 00:02:09,547 Speaker 3: shying away from any talk of a bomb squad strategy 40 00:02:09,587 --> 00:02:12,027 Speaker 3: after the win last week. That's probably going to come 41 00:02:12,107 --> 00:02:14,187 Speaker 3: up again. This week after. You know, you brought four 42 00:02:14,227 --> 00:02:15,707 Speaker 3: guys on early in the second half and then got 43 00:02:15,707 --> 00:02:17,387 Speaker 3: a couple of tries straight away. But can you tell 44 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:20,867 Speaker 3: us about what your strategy is in the use of 45 00:02:20,907 --> 00:02:21,867 Speaker 3: your impact players. 46 00:02:22,867 --> 00:02:25,467 Speaker 4: We have an expectation that they come on and influence 47 00:02:25,547 --> 00:02:32,307 Speaker 4: the game and without trying to do too much. There's 48 00:02:32,347 --> 00:02:36,307 Speaker 4: no real secret formula. We just have got a fairly 49 00:02:36,347 --> 00:02:39,747 Speaker 4: deep squad and part of keeping them happy is giving 50 00:02:39,787 --> 00:02:43,027 Speaker 4: them all an opportunity to play. So the first three 51 00:02:43,107 --> 00:02:45,147 Speaker 4: or four weeks of the competition, we've just made a 52 00:02:45,187 --> 00:02:48,627 Speaker 4: conscious decision of trying to rotate our squad so everyone 53 00:02:48,627 --> 00:02:51,867 Speaker 4: does get their chance, and that creates some internal competition, 54 00:02:51,947 --> 00:02:55,067 Speaker 4: so people feel they've got to really mail their opportunity. 55 00:02:55,067 --> 00:02:58,347 Speaker 4: And that's what's happening, which is going to make life 56 00:02:58,347 --> 00:03:01,387 Speaker 4: difficult for us, but one of those difficulties that you're 57 00:03:01,427 --> 00:03:02,227 Speaker 4: keen to embrace. 58 00:03:03,427 --> 00:03:05,867 Speaker 3: Do you think guys still want to start even though 59 00:03:05,867 --> 00:03:08,467 Speaker 3: they can see the value you're placing on them as 60 00:03:08,467 --> 00:03:10,267 Speaker 3: impact players and you probably sell it to them in 61 00:03:10,307 --> 00:03:12,107 Speaker 3: that way. Do you think most guys still want to 62 00:03:12,107 --> 00:03:12,627 Speaker 3: start the game? 63 00:03:13,067 --> 00:03:15,867 Speaker 4: One. I've never met a rugby player yet it's happy 64 00:03:15,907 --> 00:03:19,787 Speaker 4: about being on the bench. But yeah, well one of 65 00:03:19,787 --> 00:03:24,067 Speaker 4: the avenues for forgiven in the State Jersey is to 66 00:03:24,107 --> 00:03:27,187 Speaker 4: come off the bench, And to be honest, some people 67 00:03:27,227 --> 00:03:29,707 Speaker 4: are just really good at that, and I think a 68 00:03:29,987 --> 00:03:31,787 Speaker 4: value as a start of it. Some people just have 69 00:03:31,947 --> 00:03:35,547 Speaker 4: the ability to really inject themselves into the game, change 70 00:03:35,587 --> 00:03:38,507 Speaker 4: the pace of the game, a little bit of extractor, 71 00:03:39,547 --> 00:03:42,547 Speaker 4: and not everyone can do that. So there's a little 72 00:03:42,547 --> 00:03:44,347 Speaker 4: bit of strategy in terms of who we bring off 73 00:03:44,347 --> 00:03:48,027 Speaker 4: the bench some respect. But yeah, I think it's just 74 00:03:48,067 --> 00:03:50,067 Speaker 4: been a little bit killington into over the last couple 75 00:03:50,107 --> 00:03:54,587 Speaker 4: of weeks that their injections, you know, sort of go 76 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,067 Speaker 4: inside of what they're turning in the game. 77 00:03:56,467 --> 00:03:59,107 Speaker 3: I guess also your rewarding performance, aren't you a black 78 00:03:59,147 --> 00:04:00,947 Speaker 3: starts and he plays well, then you know it's likely 79 00:04:00,987 --> 00:04:03,467 Speaker 3: he'll start again. They can ask you about Simon Parker's 80 00:04:03,467 --> 00:04:05,987 Speaker 3: performances in the first couple of games in the sixth Jersey. 81 00:04:07,067 --> 00:04:09,547 Speaker 3: You know, is he a demonstration of that that you 82 00:04:09,587 --> 00:04:12,827 Speaker 3: know you play well, you hold your jersey yep, Like 83 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:13,627 Speaker 3: he's just been. 84 00:04:13,547 --> 00:04:15,987 Speaker 4: Events the last couple of weeks, both sides of the ball. 85 00:04:16,987 --> 00:04:19,587 Speaker 4: He's a big lump of a lead, real heavy boned, 86 00:04:19,867 --> 00:04:23,147 Speaker 4: you know, heavy carry, heavy and in the collision areas. 87 00:04:24,107 --> 00:04:26,707 Speaker 4: But he's had a few opportunities to sort of run 88 00:04:26,747 --> 00:04:28,747 Speaker 4: and open spaces and he's been able to showcase of 89 00:04:28,787 --> 00:04:31,027 Speaker 4: skill sets. I've been super happy for him because he's 90 00:04:31,027 --> 00:04:32,907 Speaker 4: had a bit of a rich and run of injury 91 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,507 Speaker 4: for the last four or five years. Always had potential 92 00:04:36,587 --> 00:04:39,547 Speaker 4: and now to be realized. So he he's been playing 93 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:42,787 Speaker 4: really well, and you know that's that's been that somebody 94 00:04:42,827 --> 00:04:44,987 Speaker 4: in the quality of Sampans had to come off the bench. 95 00:04:46,027 --> 00:04:48,587 Speaker 3: We're well aware of Leroy Carter as a sevens player 96 00:04:48,627 --> 00:04:50,787 Speaker 3: and what he's done there. Were you always confident Clayton 97 00:04:50,827 --> 00:04:53,187 Speaker 3: he could make the step to fifteen so effectively. 98 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:55,787 Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, I had a fair bit to do with 99 00:04:55,907 --> 00:05:00,067 Speaker 4: Leroy back in back then. He so he's always been 100 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 4: a massive competitor and an oultra talented movie player and 101 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:07,547 Speaker 4: probably took him a little while. And I think the 102 00:05:07,547 --> 00:05:11,907 Speaker 4: sevens environment be really good for the professional development. His 103 00:05:12,227 --> 00:05:17,747 Speaker 4: bodies small, robust, Now those professional habits that are acquired 104 00:05:17,787 --> 00:05:20,027 Speaker 4: at this level of the game, he's got those down pets. 105 00:05:20,027 --> 00:05:23,787 Speaker 4: So yeah, he's he's another one made a big impression. 106 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:27,267 Speaker 4: But yeah, we're really confident that We've picked up a 107 00:05:27,267 --> 00:05:28,027 Speaker 4: good one there. 108 00:05:28,347 --> 00:05:31,947 Speaker 3: Andy Moni Naow. Every time he plays for the Chiefs, 109 00:05:31,947 --> 00:05:35,107 Speaker 3: he just seems to impress and you have to think 110 00:05:35,147 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 3: that the all black selectors will take notice. Again, can 111 00:05:38,267 --> 00:05:40,107 Speaker 3: you talk about about him? Money Nada was influence on 112 00:05:40,147 --> 00:05:40,747 Speaker 3: your side. 113 00:05:41,307 --> 00:05:43,867 Speaker 4: He's probably just that his best when he's being cheeky. 114 00:05:43,947 --> 00:05:46,987 Speaker 4: And I just speak this morning, just going back over 115 00:05:47,107 --> 00:05:49,387 Speaker 4: reviewing the game, and I see he's pulling people shorts 116 00:05:49,427 --> 00:05:52,187 Speaker 4: down in the middle of the game, and he's doing 117 00:05:52,227 --> 00:05:53,947 Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff, and I think that's you know, 118 00:05:54,107 --> 00:05:58,547 Speaker 4: when you allow people to just be themselves, then I'm 119 00:05:58,547 --> 00:06:00,547 Speaker 4: more likely to give the best of themselves. And he's 120 00:06:00,587 --> 00:06:02,587 Speaker 4: he's one of those people. I think if he's put 121 00:06:02,627 --> 00:06:05,107 Speaker 4: too much into a box or follow a framework, then 122 00:06:05,427 --> 00:06:06,947 Speaker 4: probably not going to see the best of him. And 123 00:06:07,907 --> 00:06:11,667 Speaker 4: in the environment we take him and everyone for who 124 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:13,587 Speaker 4: they are and what they bring to the table floors 125 00:06:13,587 --> 00:06:19,347 Speaker 4: them all and Money is a good example of somebody 126 00:06:19,347 --> 00:06:20,907 Speaker 4: who thrives in that sort of environment. 127 00:06:21,427 --> 00:06:23,667 Speaker 3: You reckon you might just leave Damien McKenzie at fullback 128 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:23,907 Speaker 3: for a. 129 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:26,027 Speaker 4: Bit well, or we might not have a choice of 130 00:06:26,027 --> 00:06:30,347 Speaker 4: a limited on fullbacks at the moment. But he's I 131 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:31,907 Speaker 4: think he looks like he's got to smile on his 132 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:34,267 Speaker 4: face and he's enjoying his Rugby's getting to come up 133 00:06:34,267 --> 00:06:37,107 Speaker 4: into the into the front line, into that team jersey 134 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:39,987 Speaker 4: sort of later in games. People probably didn't realize yesterday, 135 00:06:39,987 --> 00:06:43,307 Speaker 4: but we just switched Josh Jacob and Dabian around for 136 00:06:43,347 --> 00:06:46,387 Speaker 4: the last twenty minutes, I think, and that you had 137 00:06:46,547 --> 00:06:50,027 Speaker 4: had a good impact and in Josh Jak and the 138 00:06:50,067 --> 00:06:52,147 Speaker 4: young fellow, he's learning a lot of Damien as well, 139 00:06:52,187 --> 00:06:55,387 Speaker 4: and I thought he probably had his one of one 140 00:06:55,387 --> 00:06:58,187 Speaker 4: of his best games for a little while, certainly for 141 00:06:58,267 --> 00:07:01,907 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, real real statement performance from him. 142 00:07:02,107 --> 00:07:05,587 Speaker 3: You lost Luke Jacobson early after a blow to the head. 143 00:07:05,587 --> 00:07:08,187 Speaker 3: We didn't really get a look at any replays. I'm 144 00:07:08,187 --> 00:07:10,667 Speaker 3: sure you've got different angles you've seen. Did you think 145 00:07:10,787 --> 00:07:12,907 Speaker 3: that incident should have been further looked at? 146 00:07:13,827 --> 00:07:17,147 Speaker 4: I think you're probably warranted based on the evidence of 147 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:19,387 Speaker 4: other decisions I've seen over the last couple of weeks, 148 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:25,387 Speaker 4: Yellow Cat, But that turned out to not be the case, 149 00:07:25,427 --> 00:07:30,667 Speaker 4: and and we just move forward. You know, like you're 150 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:32,667 Speaker 4: going to get a few decisions that go away, and 151 00:07:32,707 --> 00:07:35,227 Speaker 4: there's going to be others that go agasue, and I 152 00:07:35,227 --> 00:07:40,227 Speaker 4: think the referees just a you know to them. I 153 00:07:40,267 --> 00:07:42,187 Speaker 4: think they've been doing a great job of bringing some 154 00:07:42,267 --> 00:07:45,667 Speaker 4: teampoe into the game and seeing high ball and play 155 00:07:45,667 --> 00:07:47,547 Speaker 4: minutes and a little bit of fatigue at the back 156 00:07:47,587 --> 00:07:49,987 Speaker 4: of game. So I think they've done a really good job. 157 00:07:50,027 --> 00:07:52,147 Speaker 4: And like I said, this Pandamic game, they're going to 158 00:07:52,147 --> 00:07:56,147 Speaker 4: miss a couple of things, and potentially there was one 159 00:07:56,187 --> 00:07:58,027 Speaker 4: of them on the weekend. And know that you know 160 00:07:58,427 --> 00:08:01,427 Speaker 4: Looke's noses but busted up and for heads some young 161 00:08:01,427 --> 00:08:03,187 Speaker 4: men like him, we would be a bit disappointed by that, 162 00:08:03,307 --> 00:08:04,507 Speaker 4: but it'll get fixed up. 163 00:08:06,067 --> 00:08:07,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, that's what'll worry him the most, the look 164 00:08:07,947 --> 00:08:11,027 Speaker 3: of his nose. I'm a boy here. But he also 165 00:08:11,067 --> 00:08:13,627 Speaker 3: left the field. Any any update on his situation. 166 00:08:13,747 --> 00:08:15,627 Speaker 4: I'll wait for a bit of a medical report this 167 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:18,147 Speaker 4: morning on him. But he was walking around the liver 168 00:08:18,227 --> 00:08:20,547 Speaker 4: for you after the game, so we're hoping that it's 169 00:08:20,627 --> 00:08:24,907 Speaker 4: nothing seriously, there's non sort of contact injury. He just 170 00:08:24,947 --> 00:08:27,267 Speaker 4: went a step and his knee kind of gave way, 171 00:08:27,387 --> 00:08:29,627 Speaker 4: and he will find out a little bit more to 172 00:08:29,787 --> 00:08:30,987 Speaker 4: around the seriousness of that. 173 00:08:31,267 --> 00:08:34,227 Speaker 3: All right, Just to finish all anybody's going to be 174 00:08:34,227 --> 00:08:36,067 Speaker 3: talking about today in rugby circles. Is the way the 175 00:08:36,107 --> 00:08:39,067 Speaker 3: Chiefs played in that second half last night. People are 176 00:08:39,067 --> 00:08:41,307 Speaker 3: watching replays, all your players will be getting pumped up 177 00:08:41,307 --> 00:08:44,067 Speaker 3: by the fans and their mates. How will you keep 178 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:45,707 Speaker 3: them grounded when you come together on Monday. 179 00:08:47,307 --> 00:08:49,947 Speaker 4: This pretty grounded group has been a group that's been 180 00:08:49,987 --> 00:08:53,627 Speaker 4: through some adversity. We've been to the big dance a 181 00:08:53,627 --> 00:08:57,267 Speaker 4: few times, haven't quite got it done. So it's just 182 00:08:57,427 --> 00:09:00,467 Speaker 4: we've just learned that what happened in round one and 183 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:03,267 Speaker 4: two is very little bearing on what happens later on 184 00:09:03,347 --> 00:09:07,547 Speaker 4: in the season other than accumulating and building your game 185 00:09:07,627 --> 00:09:10,147 Speaker 4: and in some confidence and just enjoying tuning out to 186 00:09:10,187 --> 00:09:12,907 Speaker 4: work every day. Say these boats keep your feet through 187 00:09:12,947 --> 00:09:16,467 Speaker 4: me on the ground and nfday either look like floating 188 00:09:16,467 --> 00:09:18,707 Speaker 4: off a little bit, we're pretty quick to bring them 189 00:09:18,747 --> 00:09:21,987 Speaker 4: back down. So not just heavy with the way we've 190 00:09:22,027 --> 00:09:24,227 Speaker 4: been playing, but we've got some big games ahead of 191 00:09:24,307 --> 00:09:26,907 Speaker 4: us over the next four weeks hidden into our bios. 192 00:09:26,907 --> 00:09:31,067 Speaker 4: So where were just tuning our attention to the boundaries 193 00:09:31,067 --> 00:09:33,907 Speaker 4: now and we prepare well, we'll give usselves a good 194 00:09:33,947 --> 00:09:36,747 Speaker 4: opportunity of performing well. 195 00:09:37,307 --> 00:09:40,307 Speaker 3: Great performance last night Clayton. Congratulations, thanks for joining us, mate. 196 00:09:40,387 --> 00:09:41,307 Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your weekend. 197 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:43,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a great day. 198 00:09:43,827 --> 00:09:46,027 Speaker 3: To Clayton, I'm sure you will a very relaxing day 199 00:09:46,027 --> 00:09:48,667 Speaker 3: watching the other teams beat each other up now as 200 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:51,707 Speaker 3: you did to the Crusaders last night. It's Clayton McMillan, 201 00:09:51,787 --> 00:09:53,027 Speaker 3: head coach of the Chiefs. 202 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:56,627 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 203 00:09:56,747 --> 00:10:00,027 Speaker 1: to news Talks z'd be weekends from midday, or follow 204 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:01,627 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.