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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial.

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Speaker 2: And rural news. Togs Hed been honing.

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Speaker 3: And welcome today. We've gone more rule changes coming to banking.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a South African tour for the all blacks like

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Speaker 3: the good old days. The carbon auction was another complete

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Speaker 3: and ut up bust as no one turned up. Dame

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Speaker 3: Lisa brings all the medals in and chats about our

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Speaker 3: performance and being brilliant after right, Joe mckenni's and Italy

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Speaker 3: along with Rod who is in the UK. Hosking welcome

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Speaker 3: to the Thursday as part of seven PAS six. By

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Speaker 3: the way, it's part of my ongoing observations on whether

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Speaker 3: we have a real problem or just a perceived problem.

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Speaker 3: I give you last week's result for Woolworth's New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Their earnings before tax were down fifty seven point two percent.

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Speaker 3: Did the Grocery Commission to see these results before he

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Speaker 3: published his report yesterday. The fifty seven percent is the

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Speaker 3: lowest figure in ten years. This is one of the

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Speaker 3: businesses that is part of a sector that is apparently

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Speaker 3: gouging us robbing us, running us rampant all over the

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Speaker 3: place and bleeding us dry with their outright prices and

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Speaker 3: scandalous behavior, or so the rhetoric would have you believe.

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Speaker 3: They argue the results speak to a competitive environment and

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Speaker 3: the cost of living crisis. And by the way, look

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Speaker 3: at their Australian outlet, same story. They would appear if

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Speaker 3: you look at the numbers to be hardly rolling in dough. Ironically,

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Speaker 3: one of the costs that went up for them was wages.

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Speaker 3: Wages increased nineteen percent over the past two years nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Is that a company robbing the workers blind. That's well

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Speaker 3: above inflation and then some that's the market working. That's

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Speaker 3: an industry having trouble finding people to do a job

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Speaker 3: in sorting it by paying more money. Like everything else,

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Speaker 3: we've become obsessed with petrol, airlines, banking. At least part

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Speaker 3: of the problem is our size, and we just refuse

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Speaker 3: to accept it. A country of five million, and that

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Speaker 3: five million scattered all over the place is not a

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Speaker 3: recipe for lots and lots and lots of options when

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Speaker 3: it comes to pretty much anything. Once again, look at Australia,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven million people, lots of supermarkets, but the same story.

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Speaker 3: They're not happy either when the Commers Commission, or the

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Speaker 3: government or all the Consumers Institute talk about lack of competition.

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Speaker 3: That's the easy bit. The hard bit is actually getting

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Speaker 3: so want to take the risk, find the money, buy

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Speaker 3: the land, build the building, open the door and do

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Speaker 3: the trade. This country, like any country, is not sure

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Speaker 3: of people with an eye for a dollar or an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But just saying there aren't enough players in the market

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Speaker 3: isn't all you need to provide that alternative that we

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Speaker 3: allegedly solve all our concerns with, Like banks, we actually

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Speaker 3: have quite a few grosses, a lot of places to

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Speaker 3: buy a carrot and a stake in a can of beans.

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Speaker 3: If Walworths reported an eighty nine percent increase in profits

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Speaker 3: year after year and they've been doing so for decades,

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Speaker 3: would have some questions. But they look to me like

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Speaker 3: a lot of other companies. Successful, yes, but struggling in

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Speaker 3: tough times and hardly creaming it the way the rhetoric

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Speaker 3: would have you believe.

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Speaker 1: Why News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Reminds us this morning that their biggest growth industry is

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Speaker 3: the one that writes reports into things that went wrong.

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Speaker 3: Today it's Grenville again.

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Speaker 4: And those who lived in the tower were badly failed

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Speaker 4: over a number of years and in a number of

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Speaker 4: different ways by those who were responsible for ensuring safety

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Speaker 4: of the building and its occupants.

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Speaker 3: The survivors feel vindicated.

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Speaker 5: So you can see where the greed came into play.

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Speaker 5: You can see where the manipulation came into play, and

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Speaker 5: also the fudlent activities that was going on between companies

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Speaker 5: allowing each other to get away with certain things.

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Speaker 3: The Prime minister says what prime ministers say in such circumstances.

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Speaker 2: It should never have happened.

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Speaker 6: The country failed to discharge its most fundamental duty to

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Speaker 6: protect you and your love gloves.

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Speaker 3: I meantime, the Tories have been working on sorting out

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Speaker 3: a new leader. First vote was held over night.

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Speaker 6: So as a result of the ballot. As the result

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Speaker 6: of the ballot, Pretty Patel is eliminated from the contest.

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Speaker 6: And there'll be a further ballot next Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It will, and I'll work you through the others and

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Speaker 3: who's left and what the rules are. Shortly then Stateside

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Speaker 3: and Georgia, we've got a school shooting.

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Speaker 7: What do you see behind us? Ah is the evil

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Speaker 7: thing today. At about nine thirty this morning, we received

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Speaker 7: the first call that there was an active shooter on

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Speaker 3: And then the campaign that rolls on new polling for

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Speaker 3: you in a moment.

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Speaker 8: New Hampshire, that's not traditionally one of the battleground states

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Speaker 8: that we're talking about. It's voted for the Democratic nominee

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Speaker 8: for president for the past twenty years. It had been

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Speaker 8: slipping somewhere when Joe Biden was atop the Democratic ticket.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you all those numbers shortly. Finally we may

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Speaker 3: have broken down the number one way not to be tied.

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Speaker 3: The news comes from Eric Bood, doctor Eric Booth. He's

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Speaker 3: an intimateent fasting specialist with over twelve million subscribers on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: He says, the definitive way not to be tied is exercise.

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Speaker 3: Number one way to produce more mitochondria, which is known

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Speaker 3: as the energy factor within yourselves and it's u mitochondria

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Speaker 3: and when that gets low, it's when you get hit

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Speaker 3: by more diseases and your body uses up other material.

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Speaker 3: So get get exercise, get moving. That's news of the

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Speaker 3: world in ninety second and by the way, stateside, in

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Speaker 3: the economy, job openings fell currently right here, right now,

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Speaker 3: the receiven point six seven million job openings in America.

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Speaker 3: That's the lowest number. Once again, we'll get nervous about

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Speaker 3: mister Powell and whether he's left it too late. It's

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Speaker 3: the lowest number since January of twenty twenty one. Lots

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Speaker 3: more data out overnight. Actually that's why we've got Andrew next.

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Speaker 1: Twelve past six, the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to work out and I can't quite

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Speaker 3: get to the bottom of it yet. But Klever, who's

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Speaker 3: the Foreign Minister for Ukraine, has quit overnight. He's been

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Speaker 3: there since March of twenty twenty. They've had problems. The

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Speaker 3: air Force guy got sacked the other day and it's

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Speaker 3: not the first sacking Zelenski's been responsible for. And this

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Speaker 3: is the widest of the broadest cabinet reshuffle he's undertaken

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Speaker 3: my Wealth Andrew Keller have very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: I probably needed a microscope, but they did in Australia

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Speaker 3: find a little bit of growth there.

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Speaker 2: There was a little bit of growth.

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Speaker 9: So with Casta eyeing across the Tasman this morning, their

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Speaker 9: latest reports on growth over that's for the second quarter.

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Speaker 9: So we're looking at this ahead of our second quarter

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Speaker 9: growth release on nineteenth September. YEP plus zero point two

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Speaker 2: Annual growth at one percent.

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Speaker 9: That's a slow down from the one point three percent

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Speaker 9: annual growth that they recorded to the.

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Speaker 2: First quarter of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 9: And you know, Q the hand ringing and the gnashing

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Speaker 9: reported as a knee mech and very soft. But you know,

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Speaker 9: call me cynical in my aging years. But at least

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Speaker 9: it's got a positive number in front of it, hasn't it.

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Speaker 9: We're expecting a negative number for our second quarter growth

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Speaker 9: here now discount but look, it is soft from a

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Speaker 9: the slowest rate of growth for Australia since the early

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Speaker 9: nineties recession, and of course they've pushed into straights up

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Speaker 9: over there to try and combat inflation as well, and

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Speaker 9: it's worked to sort of slow the economy, but they

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Speaker 9: didn't push interest rates up to the same degree that

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Speaker 2: They have got this.

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Speaker 9: One of per capita basis though they've now had six

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Speaker 9: consecutive quarters of negative growth on a per capita basis.

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Speaker 9: They had quite high migration over there as well, so

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Speaker 9: more people look. A big surprise in the numbers might

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Speaker 9: was the weakness of the consumer. Consumers spending decline zero

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Speaker 9: quarterly decline outside of COVID since the GFC. Much of

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Speaker 9: the growth over there, the fact that they did get

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Speaker 9: positive growth was driven driven by three things I'm seeing.

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Speaker 9: It attributed to government spending. Increased government spending, foreign students,

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Speaker 9: between the public and the private sector. The private sector

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Speaker 9: was a negative contributor to growth, but strength in the

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Speaker 9: public sector offset that. And just think about those three

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Speaker 9: factors and compare them to hear Mike. They've got increased

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Speaker 9: foreign students, well, foreign students have been slow to return here,

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Speaker 9: So we're sort of quite different on those three factors.

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Speaker 9: Spending Australia is now aday record share of the OSSI

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Speaker 9: economy twenty seven point three percent of GDP. Back in

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty one it was twenty seven point one. So

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Speaker 9: the government's getting in there holding the economy up. They've

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Speaker 9: And next quarter they could get a boost from cost

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Speaker 2: So look, we'll get our comparison on the nineteen, So

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Speaker 2: we wait. We eagerly anticipate that number, Mike.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't because it will be negative. But and

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Speaker 3: then then we have the debate OVERQ three anyway, because

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so look, this is what's called the September effect.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, the first day of trading because they had

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Speaker 9: that gave up over three percent and big falls and

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Speaker 9: negative starts to set ten trading, and we get this

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Speaker 9: sort of all this talk.

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Speaker 2: About all, well that's September.

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Speaker 9: September is Look, and I haven't sort of corroborated this number,

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Speaker 9: calendar month to average a negative return if you look

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Speaker 9: at data going back over you know, almost one hundred years.

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Speaker 9: But you've got to be careful with averages, don't you,

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Speaker 9: because obviously it doesn't mean that every September is negative.

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Speaker 9: I also think we should point out that the US

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Speaker 9: share market does perform better in September's leading into a

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Speaker 9: US presidential election.

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Speaker 2: Of what have we got this year? We've got a

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Speaker 2: US pre dential election.

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Speaker 9: But you have these bigg anomalies when September's been terrible,

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Speaker 9: you know, nineteen thirty one share market crash, two thousand

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Speaker 9: and eight share market crash, and people remember that stuff

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Speaker 9: stoking the potential negative mood at the moment, all these

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Speaker 9: recession fears, and he had quite a bit of data

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Speaker 9: over nine. All data right now has the potential to

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Speaker 9: shift the animal spirits. You know, we got the first

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Speaker 9: weaker than expected. Few a job openings means a weaker

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Speaker 2: For a second, dental care.

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Speaker 12: Do you know anyone who got dental care?

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Speaker 12: I pay for him herself.

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Speaker 3: This the steel worker is right? He is toasted, There's

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Speaker 3: Which is next.

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Speaker 3: B Yeah, who yesterday, having asked for forgiveness over the

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Speaker 3: Today he's got out his pointer and he's got a map.

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Speaker 14: That's the Jordan River to the sea, the Mediterranean sea.

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Speaker 3: to use them. Anyway, Vegetables New Zealand share John Murphy's

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Speaker 3: backward This John, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a view on the report?

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Speaker 17: Oh, look, it would be great if grow has got

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Speaker 17: But ultimately we need to work with supermarkets to get

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Speaker 3: Right, the view of the market isn't broken as it's

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Speaker 17: Look at early days for the Grocery Commission and I

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Speaker 17: I don't like the idea of market intervention in the

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Speaker 3: Who would interfere with it? And how would they interfere?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any understanding of that, because I don't.

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Speaker 3: See the difficult part that you're in, as far as

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Speaker 12: Correct?

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Speaker 17: And look, we do everything we can to be more

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Speaker 17: New Zealanders. That's our job. How the market operates beyond

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Speaker 17: the farm gate. That's very important to us and as

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Speaker 17: It's good to see supermarkets committing to initiatives like five

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Speaker 17: summare that, But I think that more information is really

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Speaker 3: All right, good insight, John appreciated very much. John Murphy, Vegetables,

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Speaker 3: that in the moment. Mike, I'm a supply at grocery.

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Speaker 3: My biggest concern is not the retail pricing. We're a

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Speaker 3: When that is addressed, and it has gone on for

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Speaker 3: I'd really like a dollar twenty and they say take

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Speaker 3: it or leave it, and we're big and you're not,

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Speaker 3: and so go away. How do you change that? And

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Speaker 3: the argument is if another player arrived in town, they go, actually,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a dollar twenty, so you off to them.

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Speaker 3: Is that really how it works for You're going to

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Speaker 3: need old Pierre to be the Tzara of potatoes and

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Speaker 3: tell you how much a cost of potato is. And

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Speaker 3: if you're going down that track, why don't you just

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Speaker 3: call yourself North Korea eighteen two The.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks AP.

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Speaker 3: Let me just give you some polling if you've missed

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Speaker 3: it this morning, out of America average, fifteen percent of

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Speaker 3: likely voters say they haven't yet food decided on their choice.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe a word of it.

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Speaker 12: I do not.

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Speaker 3: Believe there's a single person in America who hasn't worked

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Speaker 3: out whether or not they're going to vote for Trump

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Speaker 3: or Harris. They might not know whether they're gonna vote

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Speaker 3: at all. I can accept that. But to say it

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Speaker 3: could be Harris, Oh no, it might be Trump, what bollocks? Anyway.

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Speaker 3: So here's the polling this morning from CNN Wisconsin fifty

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Speaker 3: forty four to Harris Michigan forty eight forty three, Harris

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Speaker 3: Arizona forty nine, forty four, Trump, Georgia, Nevada forty eight

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Speaker 3: to forty seven for both states to Harris Pennsylvania locked

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Speaker 3: in at forty seven, couldn't be tired at six forty five.

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Speaker 18: International correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 18: for New Zealand business automatically.

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Speaker 3: Joe McKennon, very good morning for you, good money make

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Speaker 3: So these are so, first of all, this is dreadful business.

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Speaker 3: So a seventeen year old killed his entire family allegedly.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, it's just crazy stuff. And as we know,

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Speaker 19: Italy is a country where the family unit is totally revered,

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Speaker 19: even more so than everywhere else in the world I think.

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Speaker 19: And this seventeen year old stabbed his mother, father, and

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Speaker 19: younger brother to death and this occured just in a

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Speaker 19: town on the edge of Milan. Police said that he

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Speaker 19: felt extraneous. They used the word extraneous to his family

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Speaker 19: and killed them so that he could be free. The

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Speaker 19: Prime Minister's spoken about it. Maloney said that the triple

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Speaker 19: murder was beyond imagination and the papers have been filled

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Speaker 19: with analysts saying parents in Italy giving their kids everything,

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Speaker 19: but failing to listen to them anymore.

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Speaker 3: Wow, at seventeen, does the treatment by the judicial process

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Speaker 3: making the difference there or not?

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Speaker 14: Ah?

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Speaker 19: Well, they haven't named him, so he's going to go

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Speaker 19: through the juvenile system, so we're not getting it quite

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Speaker 19: as much information as we might if he was an adult.

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Speaker 3: And then we get the woman who was stabbed by

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Speaker 3: the son of an African migrant. So that's the whole

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Speaker 3: migration argument back up again.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but this one was also very very strange. This

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Speaker 19: thirty one year old, who was born in Milan to

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Speaker 19: African parents, traveled to a small town, eight thousand people.

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Speaker 19: This woman happened to be taking a late night stroll

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Speaker 19: around midnight in this town, which is very, very small,

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Speaker 19: and he just walked down the street and stabbed her

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Speaker 19: to death. So that's also roped the country as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised the Culture minister. So has he given

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Speaker 3: this woman a job or has he not?

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Speaker 19: Well, he gave her a job and insists that he's

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Speaker 19: paid her no money from his ministry, the Culture Ministry,

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Speaker 19: Gennaro's San Giuliano. But an interesting twist just before I

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Speaker 19: came on air, he's given a TV interview tonight and

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Speaker 19: admitted to having an affair with this woman and tended

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Speaker 19: his resignation, but he says the Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney

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Speaker 19: will not accept it. So everyone's waiting for the next

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Speaker 19: move here.

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Speaker 3: So what, Because, of course you have your cultural moras

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Speaker 3: are slightly different than otheres around the world. So when

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Speaker 3: you have an affair with somebody as a minister, is

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Speaker 3: that in and of itself a sackable slash resignation of

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Speaker 3: fence or is it the fact he had the affair

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Speaker 3: plus offered the job.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think most people think it might be a

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Speaker 19: sackable offense. But then I'm not quite sure how rife

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Speaker 19: it is in government circles. But she's certainly been manipulating

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Speaker 19: the situation and posting all sorts of things on her

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Speaker 19: Instagram account thanking him for appointing her as an advisor

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Speaker 19: for major events. So it's certainly getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine, is she famous? Does everyone know

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Speaker 3: who she is?

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Speaker 19: She is now right, And there's about a twenty year

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Speaker 19: age difference, which also that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Of course there is now this. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: sort of legal proceedings you can bring against Hines. I've

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Speaker 3: seen the can, I've seen what's in it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it is disgusting.

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Speaker 19: Who would want to eat spaghetti carbonaa in a can?

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Speaker 19: But I mean some people eat spaghetti in a can,

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Speaker 19: don't they?

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Speaker 3: Yes, don't don't to Joe, don't say that. Don't say that,

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Speaker 3: Like I know you've been living in Italy a long time.

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Speaker 3: It's beginning in a can. Actually, for many people in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand is like a welcome thing at breakfast time

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Speaker 3: in the morning. It's like, is it a hangover cure? No? No,

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Speaker 3: it's just a welcome peace and you put it on

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Speaker 3: toast with butter anyway. So is this available in Italy

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Speaker 3: the Cabanara.

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Speaker 1: Not so far.

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Speaker 19: I think it's going to be released in September in

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Speaker 19: the UK. I haven't heard about other countries. But they're

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Speaker 19: pitching this at young consumers, probably those people in London

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Speaker 19: who are going pub crawling on a Friday night and

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Speaker 19: looking for something when they get home. But chefs and

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Speaker 19: restaurants across Italy are up in arms about this, as

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Speaker 19: you can imagine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. All right, go well, we'll catch up

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Speaker 3: next Thursday. Pleasure as always, Joe Jeremy Kenna in Italy

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Speaker 3: Thursday Mornings on the Mike Hosking Breakfast ten away from seven,

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Speaker 3: all the.

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Speaker 1: Mic hosting Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities News, togs head.

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Speaker 3: Bright, I sit up and pay attention and get a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of numbers for you glasses. And so this

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Speaker 3: is Beef and Lamb. First of all, this is their

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Speaker 3: new season outlook I was alluding to earlier on they

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Speaker 3: say signs of green shoots. I'll come to what I

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Speaker 3: find to be a green shoot. Decrease in farm profit

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Speaker 3: on average, down seven and a half percent, to forty

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. Imagine running a farm, being a farmer,

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Speaker 3: and at the end of the year, for all your efforts,

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Speaker 3: for all of the getting up early in the morning,

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Speaker 3: for all the arduous risk, you're taking your pocket forty

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars hard work. Our revenue forecast will increase slightly,

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Speaker 3: So I suppose that's good news. One point one percent up,

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Speaker 3: offset by a projected one point eight percent rise and

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Speaker 3: farm expenditure. Though Chinese economy is still a problem. Lamb

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Speaker 3: projected to be one hundred and thirty ahead. That's up

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Speaker 3: one point one percent, still eight point two percent below

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Speaker 3: the five year average. Mutton throw it in the bin,

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Speaker 3: steady at sixty dollars ahead, forty six percent below the

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Speaker 3: five year average. All beef price, here's your green shoot,

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Speaker 3: five thirty five a kg, four point three percent above

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Speaker 3: last season and four point eight percent above the five

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Speaker 3: year average. That's your green shoot. Big demand in the state.

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Speaker 3: They're saving us. They've got no cows left in America.

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Speaker 3: Cattle herds at the lowest and seventy years. Export volumes

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Speaker 3: for our red meat are expected to be lower this

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Speaker 3: coming season. Lamb down seven, mutton down seven, beef down three.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that's to do with the drought, so

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Speaker 3: it is hard yards on the farm. And as they

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Speaker 3: also point out, and I too often, it's big money

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Speaker 3: in this country, or should be big money, or hopefully

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Speaker 3: is big money between dairy tourism and that. That's how

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Speaker 3: we make our money with the world.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's just the first seven numbers. Five minutes away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Takes me seriously, as acquist. Seven to fifteen. More housing

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Speaker 3: numbers are from core Logic this morning. Wile we got

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Speaker 3: we've got the home value index that shows values down

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Speaker 3: August half a percent, which is the sixth straight month

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Speaker 3: of fall since what we thought might have been a

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Speaker 3: peak in February. Takes the total fall since feb to

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Speaker 3: three point seven percent on average, works out to be

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Speaker 3: a drop in valuation of about thirty one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Median value of the homes now eight hundred and eleven,

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Speaker 3: which is seventeen percent above pre COVID, so we're still

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Speaker 3: on the upside, but at seventeen percent lower than the

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Speaker 3: peak of Jen twenty two. So it depends on your

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Speaker 3: glasses half full of half empty. Let's make it half

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Speaker 3: fall showing apart from christ Church, good old christ Church

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Speaker 3: up zero point two percent, all all around the rest

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Speaker 3: of the place down a bit. Auckland down a point

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Speaker 3: one percent. Value is down down six since January, Hamilton

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Speaker 3: down point eight, Towering and Wellington and need and down

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Speaker 3: between zero point one zero point Five's happy, it's worrying

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Speaker 3: about it. Christchurch's still your best place, though homes are

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Speaker 3: still up forty point seven percent on pre COVID levels.

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Speaker 3: You are laughing in the churcher Auckland. What have we

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Speaker 3: got average prices?

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Speaker 10: All?

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Speaker 3: We love an average Christ? Don't we a little bit

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Speaker 3: above a million? In Auckland? Hamilton seven thirty four nine

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Speaker 3: ten and Towerng and Wellington eight twenty six sixt eighty

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Speaker 3: six and christ Church? Which is why everyone's moving to

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Speaker 3: christ Church because you get the city vibe, you get

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Speaker 3: the international connections at the airport, and you're only paying

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Speaker 3: six to eighty six on average per house. Who was

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Speaker 3: I Katie told me someone's moving there yet another person yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Can't a headresser, could have been a podiatrist, could have

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Speaker 3: been my certainly my high genus move there since I last.

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Speaker 3: When I'm going to a new hygienis next week, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you how that goes. Oh, I know you don't

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Speaker 3: want to hear it, but I'm going to tell you anyway.

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Speaker 3: Dunedin six oh four, Nape You're seven o six, Palmerston

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Speaker 3: six o four, Hasting six p ninety two, fungar A

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Speaker 3: seven thirty, Wogan Ui four eight four, Rotorua five nine six,

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Speaker 3: Gisbon five eight two, Nelson seven eighteen, New Plymouth sixty

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Speaker 3: seven six, all the six six seventy six and Becago

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Speaker 3: four seven one. Queenstown one point five to five million,

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Speaker 3: Queen's Day. See John Trabolta was there yesterday. He's flying

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Speaker 3: an old plane and it looked too small to come

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Speaker 3: from America. He landed in Australia. The Australians got excited

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Speaker 3: as well, in that clickbait way that you know the

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Speaker 3: tabloid press do these days. But I don't know whether

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Speaker 3: he brought it from America, but he soon he took

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Speaker 3: it from Queenstown.

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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, fort opinion and Mike the

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Speaker 1: Mic asking Breakfast with the Jaguar f pace cut from

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Speaker 1: a different class.

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Speaker 2: News talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Morning seven past seven to a day after the tourist

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Speaker 3: arrival tax was announced, the press releases flying we find

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Speaker 3: out this morning two point six billion dollars went into

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Speaker 3: the economy last quarter from tourism, and annually that's a

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Speaker 3: number of eleven point six billion dollars. So this is

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Speaker 3: the government supplying the numbers and then they sprook it

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Speaker 3: by going that's up seventeen percent on twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: But there's a twist in that that is of course

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Speaker 3: off a low base irony of ironies. I happened to

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Speaker 3: be talking to Richard Quest this morning of CNN, who

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Speaker 3: was reading yesterday about the increases in taxes. So a

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Speaker 3: view from outside looking in as to what we're doing

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Speaker 3: with aviation and tourism.

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Speaker 10: If I'm flying on a seven, eight, nine, ten thousand

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Speaker 10: dollar ticket from the US or whatever five thousand dollars ticket,

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Speaker 10: what difference does it make? It doesn't really that that tax.

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Speaker 10: But you look at Sweden, which has just taken off

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Speaker 10: the aviation tax from next year, You've got to ask,

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Speaker 10: you know, I saw the announcements about the new z

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Speaker 10: increase taxes. You're going to want guarantees that that money

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Speaker 10: is going to be ring fenced for the purposes for

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Speaker 10: which it was intended. But what sort of a message

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Speaker 10: does it send. What sort of a message does it

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Speaker 10: send that basically, well, welcome and we're going to increase

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Speaker 10: the tax for you being here. There are other ways

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Speaker 10: it could have been done. New Zealand does not have

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Speaker 10: a god given right to tourism, the tourism increasing a tax.

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Speaker 10: It's a relatively small amount, but it is symbolic of

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Speaker 10: a mindset that I think the industry is going to

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Speaker 10: find and argue very strongly against. As for aviation, gangbusters, Yes,

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Speaker 10: here's another thing, mike. Aviation, as you know, is its

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Speaker 10: own worst enemy. It will buy planes, it will put

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Speaker 10: in capacity, it will fly more seats than it needs to,

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Speaker 10: until eventually everybody's losing money and they're screaming, well, they

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Speaker 10: can't do that now because the aircraft manufacturers, both Burning

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Speaker 10: and US have got serious delays in the uder book,

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Speaker 10: and the engine manufacturers have got greater maintenance on all

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Speaker 10: the major models. So the airlines themselves, frankly, are being

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Speaker 10: saved from their own stupidity by external factors of which

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Speaker 10: they have no.

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Speaker 3: Control asking interesting, isn't it outside looking in? So we'll

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Speaker 3: have more on that later on. Anyway, where are we

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Speaker 3: nine minutes past seven? I got more change coming on

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Speaker 3: the lending money, the banking side of the equation. This

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Speaker 3: is all part of the overall Triple CFA reforms, of course,

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Speaker 3: started famously all those years ago by David Clark and

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Speaker 3: completely cocked up and changed over and over. Anyway, the

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Speaker 3: Financial Market's Authority is said to become a one stop

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Speaker 3: regulatory shop. They will look after licenses to ensure consumers

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Speaker 3: have looked after as well. Banking Association hit Roger beaumonts

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Speaker 3: with us on this's Roger, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Oh good morning, Mike, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Not at all.

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Speaker 3: This strikes me as sort of back room stuff that

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Speaker 3: the average punt are looking for a mortgage wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: know or care about. Is that fear or not?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Yes, I think they will be minimal impact frontline customers

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Speaker 20: on this, But I mean this is part of a

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Speaker 20: further theories of changes that the Minister has been making

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Speaker 20: to the Triple CFA, which, as we've talked about numerous times,

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Speaker 20: has been a source of pain and difficulty for both

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Speaker 20: and fan customers trying to get lending.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so does it improve things at your side of

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Speaker 3: the equation?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I think one of the ready key changes

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Speaker 20: the Minister now for last night is that the personal

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Speaker 20: liability for managers and banks will be ditched. And what

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Speaker 20: that means is that managers were potentially subject to a

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Speaker 20: two hundred thousand dollars fine if they breached the code.

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Speaker 20: And just to give you an example of how draconian

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Speaker 20: this has been, either the bank or the manager themselves

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Speaker 20: personally was prevented from taking out insurance to protect them

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Speaker 20: from that fine. So it was a really strict regime

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Speaker 20: that I think had some unintended consequences on lending approaches.

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Speaker 3: Is the FMA generally up to running all of this?

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Speaker 21: Now?

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Speaker 20: Look, we support the twin peaks model that Minister Bailey

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Speaker 20: has introduced, which means basically you've got two key regulators

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Speaker 20: in the financial services sector, one being the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 20: on financial or crudential matters and the FMA on conduct matters.

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Speaker 20: And anything that simplifies and clarifies what that monitoring process

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Speaker 20: is is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Have we got there? At last? If you go back

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Speaker 3: to David Clarkin's various massinations and ideas and thought bubbles,

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Speaker 3: and to where we are now is this it?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, there's a lot of detail that we haven't

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Speaker 20: seen yet, so we need to work that through. And

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Speaker 20: once again the devil is always in the detail. But

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Speaker 20: the Ministran announced this at a function last night, so

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Speaker 20: we need to get our heads around what the detail

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Speaker 20: is and then we'll be able to comment more fully

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Speaker 20: on that question.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate time. Roger bymot Out of the Banker's Association twelve

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Speaker 3: and it's past sevensky. Speaking of tourism. By the way,

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Speaker 3: as we were a moment ago, we have been named.

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Speaker 3: You'll be pleased to know the leading destination air New

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Speaker 3: Zealand is the top airline and the Oceania section of

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Speaker 3: the World Travel Awards, the WTA Awards. This is very

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Speaker 3: prestigious as far as awards go. We took it back

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Speaker 3: off Australia. We've held on to it for the four

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Speaker 3: years running until we lost it to Australia last year,

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Speaker 3: got it back this year. First held at nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand has confirmed its reputation as the land with

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Speaker 3: it all other nominees Fiji, Papua, New Guinea, Sama and Tonga.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know about the quality of the field.

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Speaker 3: Not insulting them, but I don't know about the quality

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Speaker 3: of the field. Leading airline in the region for the

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Speaker 3: sixteenth rod and rowed in New Zealand, top airline in

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Speaker 3: Oceania since twenty nineteen and indeed in Australasia. Well done

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Speaker 3: US thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: You know my fascination with the carbon market in this

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Speaker 3: country and the auctions that we've held in the complete

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Speaker 3: and utter cluster that we've had up until now, and

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Speaker 3: yesterday was another they changed that. The government came on

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Speaker 3: this program and they said we're going to change it

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Speaker 3: and we're sorting things out and you watch what happens. Well,

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Speaker 3: what happened yesterday was nothing. So anyway, we'll talk to

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Speaker 3: the minister about this after seven thirty men times back

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Speaker 3: to the tourism. So they're spreaking. The government seventeen percent

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Speaker 3: increase in expenditure two point six billion for the last quarter,

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Speaker 3: which annually makes it eleven point six billion, which is

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Speaker 3: all fantastic. Anyway, The Minister Matt Doosey's with us. Matt,

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Speaker 3: morning to you, mording Mike directly after. I mean, is

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Speaker 3: this a deliberate strategy with you guys? You annow to

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Speaker 3: a big increase in the levee and then the next

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Speaker 3: day you put out a press release saying, look, how

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Speaker 3: well we're doing. Is that a plan?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 19: No?

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Speaker 22: No, they weren't connected, but it is good news as

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Speaker 22: our tourism sector bounced back. But who I need to

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Speaker 22: listen to is actually the tourist operators on the ground.

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Speaker 22: As I get around the country, they're all telling me

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Speaker 22: they've got a high yielding product, They're delivering a better

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Speaker 22: quality experience, and I think that's to be celebrated.

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Speaker 3: Yep, no question about that. But seventeen percent up is

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Speaker 3: off a very low base though, and that's the reality

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Speaker 3: we've got to deal with, isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Well, when you look around the world, there is some

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Speaker 22: tough economic edwinds. We've bounced back to about eighty five

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Speaker 22: percent of value from pre COVID level, and like I say,

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Speaker 22: the mood is upbeat on the ground and we want

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Speaker 22: to support that. As a government. We want to grow tourism.

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Speaker 22: We really want to back its past tourism in set

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Speaker 22: with an ambitious goal to increase the value of international

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Speaker 22: tourism by five billion over the next four years. And

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Speaker 22: I think we're on track.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not, because here's the reality. Have you looked

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Speaker 3: to what's been happening in Europe matt over the summer

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Speaker 3: period in terms, none of them are at eighty five percent,

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Speaker 3: They're at one hundred and eighty five percent. They've got

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Speaker 3: so many tourists in that part of the world that

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Speaker 3: the locals are spraying them with water pistols and telling

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Speaker 3: them to go home. No one's doing that here. Something's

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Speaker 3: gone wrong with this country. Don't you agree with that?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think you've answered your own question, to be

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Speaker 22: quite frank, Mike. When you look at the surveys for

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Speaker 22: New Zealanders, ninety three percent report that they see the

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Speaker 22: value of tourism to New Zealand. We's got huge social

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Speaker 22: license for tourism. I want to maintain that. When you

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Speaker 22: look at the International Visit to survey, ninety four percent

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Speaker 22: of our visitors report that their trip has met or

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Speaker 22: exceeded expectation. So what we're seeing is New Zealand is

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Speaker 22: are happy with tourism. Our visitors are happy and the

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Speaker 22: value of tourism is growing year on year, and I

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Speaker 22: think we should support that.

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Speaker 3: Matt, you're missing the point completely. Asking a tourist who

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Speaker 3: came here whether they had a good time is fine,

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Speaker 3: and I'm glad they did. But you need four more

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Speaker 3: tourists that didn't come to get the numbers back to

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Speaker 3: where they were because we're not making the money we

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Speaker 3: once made and we need to.

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Speaker 22: Well, I just don't think we should have a direct

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Speaker 22: comparison of bums on seats pre COVID bums on seats today.

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Speaker 22: It's clearly about the value of tourism, the value it

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Speaker 22: brings New Zealand as an economy. Well, at the moment,

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Speaker 22: we've increased by half a billion dollars in the quarter

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Speaker 22: compared to the quarter last year.

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Speaker 3: Given the top of low base. Man is Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: not blaming you because you've only been there five minutes.

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Speaker 3: What I'm telling you, and what I know for a fact,

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Speaker 3: is capacities back the seats aren't full China. I get

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Speaker 3: that's an individual story. I understand that, but we are

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Speaker 3: not competing internationally with other countries that are back doing

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Speaker 3: as well, if not better than they used to. We're

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Speaker 3: simply not doing that. Well, why are we denying this?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: I don't think it's about blame, Mike. I think we've

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Speaker 22: got the trend line going in the right direction. Our

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Speaker 22: tourist operators are upbeat. You look at Hawk's Bayo's at

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Speaker 22: recently the value of their international tour as that is

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Speaker 22: forty percent above pre COVID levels West Coast and the

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Speaker 22: South Island fifteen to twenty percent. So what we're seeing

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Speaker 22: is tourism with a higher yield, a better quality experience,

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Speaker 22: and that's what we want to support.

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Speaker 3: All right, Man, I go, well, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Matt Douci am I am I the outlier here? Am

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Speaker 3: I the only one who's bothered by this? And everyone

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Speaker 3: else thinks it's fantastic, sitting at eighty five percent of

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Speaker 3: what it once was in you know, Wahu or Matt

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Speaker 3: is Matt right? By the way, Mike, I totally agree

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Speaker 3: with the supermarket issue. It's the same as the airline

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Speaker 3: industry here in New Zealand. I was involved in the

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Speaker 3: logistics industry. I never got over the huge infrastructure involved

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Speaker 3: in keeping these supermarkets full of food. We're hugely hampered

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Speaker 3: by what you said. We're a small country, a five

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Speaker 3: million spread all over the place. If we were spread

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Speaker 3: over the size of Singapore or had the same population

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Speaker 3: as England or Japan, then the efficiencies would flow. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Colin twenty past seven.

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Speaker 3: VIDA living well community where you'll find value in your

873
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: well being and more you'll be feeling good about life.

874
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: So to find out more about the RVDA community, and

875
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful community. It's a big community too. Have

876
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: a look at the book, a visit and not just one,

877
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: go for a couple because they know they vibe differently.

878
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: Are Veda r VDA, r VEDA dot co dot NZ

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: asking now seven twenty four. This week's compulsory reading is

880
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: the Standard and Poor's report came out yesterday s and

881
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: p into our economy some headline gems for you. Our

882
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: standard of living is going backwards. Our current account deficit

883
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: is one of the highest in the world. The level

884
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: of debt our councils carry is some of the highest

885
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: in the world. The weak economy we currently have poses

886
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: a risk. So is this the report? I mean, are

887
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: these the numbers that once and for all hammerho the

888
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: dangerous reality of that Labour government seventeen through twenty and

889
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: twenty three twenty three? Is this the report, the cold

890
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: hard reality and reckoning that alerts the various councils around

891
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: the country that their approach to money is not normal,

892
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: not good, not productive and could potentially sink us. On

893
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: average council's debt is at one hundred and eighty percent

894
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: of gross operating revenue. It is forecast arrived further to

895
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: a cap of three hundred and fifty Places like Tarong,

896
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: Hamilton and Queenstown s and p report are at over

897
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: two hundred percent right here, right now, rising to three

898
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: hundred percent. That is the highest, I repeat, the highest

899
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: anywhere in the world at a national level. The current

900
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: account deficit small clue. You don't want to actually even

901
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: be running an epicite at all. You want a surplus.

902
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: In other words, you want to sell more stuff to

903
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: the world than you buy from it. Anyway, ours is

904
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: six point eight percent of GDP. That is, you guessed

905
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: it one of the highest in the world. Irony that

906
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: six point eight percent, by the way, is lower than

907
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: it was. There are those who will still defend this

908
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: level of ineptness and destruction. They will argue all this

909
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: stuff they need to fix. And indeed there is but

910
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: the Fife demera of councils up and down this country

911
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 3: as they moved away from rubbish and booms and into

912
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: road cone, cycle ways, social housing and garification was paid

913
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: for by debt, and debt costs money and every year

914
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: as the interest bill rises. It means we do less

915
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: than we want, and every year we buy more or

916
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: buy more from the world than we sell to them.

917
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: We're going backwards. The end of that particular road, by

918
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: the way, is called impobishment. It's third world status. It's

919
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: the inability to make your own decisions and chart your

920
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: own course because someone else is going to do it

921
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: for you. This, of course, has been building for years,

922
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: and not enough of us have heard the alarm bells

923
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: or indeed cared. The ignorance and lack of interest might

924
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: well in the end sink us pasking shooting, as we've

925
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: been reporting in Georgia this morning. It could be the

926
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Speaker 3: alleged killer could be as young as fourteen, or the

927
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Speaker 3: alleged shooter could be as young as fourteen. Harris is

928
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: on the campaign trail in New Hampshire and she's reacted.

929
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 13: We had, well, I grew up in California earthquake drills,

930
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 13: we had fire drill. But our kids are sitting in

931
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 13: a classroom where they should be fulfilling their God given potential,

932
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 13: and some part of their big, beautiful brain is concerned

933
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Speaker 13: about a shooter or busting through the door of the classroom.

934
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Speaker 2: It does not have.

935
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Speaker 13: To be this way.

936
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Speaker 3: It does not have to do this way cosking ay

937
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: that is she sounds exactly like Obama did a decade ago.

938
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Speaker 21: Eh.

939
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Speaker 3: Any thoughts on this wrought mic watercres secret twenty million

940
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Speaker 3: dollar deal. Let me come to that, yes, of course

941
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Speaker 3: I do. Let me come to that after seven thirty

942
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: four year. Before that, we'll need to get to the

943
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: climate market, the carbon market, the carbon auction market. So

944
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: just to bring you up to speed, if you don't

945
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: follow this four auctions every year, the idea is you,

946
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Speaker 3: as a polluter, go to the market and you go,

947
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Speaker 3: I'm going to buy me some credits. By buying you

948
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Speaker 3: some credits, what you can do is you can offset

949
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: your pollution. So the idea was that they raise all

950
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: that money and they throw it into the ets and

951
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: the government can raise up to two billion dollars a year, unless,

952
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: of course, no one shows up, because why would you

953
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 3: want to buy a credit when you have no idea

954
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: what the government are doing when it comes to climate

955
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: and carbon generally, and they keep changing the rules all

956
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: the time. And so what has been happening over the

957
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 3: last couple of years is auction after auction after auction,

958
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 3: no one does turn up, and yesterday was the same.

959
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: No one turned up with the third option of the year.

960
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: No one at the auction means no money for the government,

961
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Speaker 3: and you already know what the story with money is.

962
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Speaker 3: We don't have any.

963
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

964
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Speaker 1: like my Costing breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

965
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial, and rural news talks had been.

966
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Speaker 3: You're regularly you might remember. I started talking about the

967
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: possibility of some green shoots and light at the end

968
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Speaker 3: of the tunnel and a bit of a vibe around

969
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: the economy in this country once Adrian Or did what

970
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Adrian Or did the other day. And I'm picking by December,

971
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: by the time we walk into Christmas, we're going to

972
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: be feeling pretty good about ourselves. And I was just

973
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: trying to work out what the relationship is between the

974
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank and a singular move, or the inference from

975
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: a reserve bank of a singular move with more to come,

976
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 3: and our psyche. And so we got some insight yesterday

977
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: on the retail spending they are calling green shoots as well. No,

978
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: it didn't go up retail spending in August, but it

979
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: wasn't as bad as July, so that's about where we're

980
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: at at the moment. Two point eight nine billion was

981
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: spent in August, which is down zero point five percent,

982
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: but it was down two point six in July. So yes,

983
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: a drop, but not as bad a drop, so we

984
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 3: might be heading might be heading in the right direction.

985
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: One of the people I was reading about the interest

986
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: rate change is from the Reserve Bank a quote very

987
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: very strong psychological impact across all sectors, all sectors, more

988
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: people expressing interest in renting retail premises. That's at a

989
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: commercial level, so that's good in general terms. We have

990
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: seen a shift in psyche across the country, so we

991
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: will take that twenty two to eight name Lisa Carrington

992
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: is in the studio after eight for a catch up,

993
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: so we'll look forward to that. Meantime. We find out

994
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: yesterday it turns out this government's no better at running

995
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: carbon auction than the last one. Yesterday's action got exactly

996
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: nobody is so millions will credits get dumped into the

997
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: final December auction and the government yet again misses out

998
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: on millions of dollars. Climate Change Minister Simon WATS is

999
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: with a Simon morning to.

1000
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Speaker 23: You, Morning Mike, thanks for having men not at all.

1001
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: Do you remember being on this very fine program on

1002
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: June twenty.

1003
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 23: I do, Mike, and you know the reality is the

1004
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 23: changes that we put in place are coming into effect

1005
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 23: next year. The fact the auction not clearing is not

1006
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 23: a sign that the auction is not operating effectively. Actually

1007
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 23: it is the effectiveness of the ATS scheme is not

1008
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 23: deemed by those auction outcomes. But our in my job

1009
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 23: is to make sure there's credibility in that market and

1010
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 23: we're seen affirming up of the prices, which is the

1011
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 23: direction we need to see it.

1012
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Heading As regards credibility, I've got a good question for

1013
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: you in just a moment, But let me remind you

1014
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: of what you said on June twenty.

1015
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 24: What I am focused on is making sure we've got

1016
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 24: a credible market. Hence why we stopped the review that

1017
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 24: the current the last government had in play. While we've

1018
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 24: been putting through what we think is from pretty sensible changes.

1019
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 24: But the big key aspect is the release of our

1020
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 24: emissions reduction plan.

1021
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: So when we talk about credibility, what's credible about an auction?

1022
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: We know and turns up well.

1023
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 23: The credibility the areas is that the auction price for

1024
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 23: the enzu was pretty much reasonably low and was floundering

1025
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 23: for a period. We took out a number of the units.

1026
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 23: It's a supply and demand marketplace. We've taken out supply

1027
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 23: from that market and that''ve seen the overarching price firm up.

1028
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 23: But you know, the end of the day, there is

1029
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 23: another secondary market where people can buy units and that's

1030
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 23: trading effectively, So there's pretty liquidity there at the moment.

1031
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 23: But next year, when those units get taken out of

1032
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 23: the market, then you know, we'll see what happens in

1033
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 23: terms of the overarching.

1034
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: Auction What if nothing happens, Well, look, if.

1035
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 23: Nothing happens in the markets operating effectively, people can get

1036
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 23: units through the secondary market. People are doing that. That

1037
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 23: market's trading with some good liquidity at the moment, which

1038
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 23: is positive, and you know, we'll see where that price

1039
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 23: point goes. It has increased.

1040
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: If people only want to trade through the secondary market,

1041
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: what's the point of your market.

1042
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 23: Well, our market brings more supply into the market if

1043
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 23: it's required and at the moment, but it's not well

1044
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 23: at the moment, there's enough supply out there for the

1045
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 23: people that want those units, and you know that's that's

1046
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 23: what's happening.

1047
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: You see, you sound like a guy who's sort of

1048
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree, I mean what the previous government

1049
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: did was ridiculous, but it's very core here. What you've

1050
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: done is not you specifically, but generally. We've invented something

1051
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist, ieu carbon market, and we're trying to

1052
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: convince people to give you money on something they may

1053
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: or may not want to buy into. And as far

1054
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: as your versions concerned, they don't.

1055
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 23: Well, the purpose of the market is to reduce emissions.

1056
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 23: It's not to create revenue for the government. That is

1057
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 23: a byproduct of the market. So the objective for me

1058
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 23: as minister is ensure that that marketplace is operating in

1059
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 23: a credible manner. The more less be clear. When government

1060
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 23: starts dabbling with markets, bad things happen, which get the

1061
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 23: hands off the steering wheel.

1062
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: Silent you're part of. You didn't invent it, but you're

1063
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: now running something that people don't want and you're interfering

1064
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: with the market, which you've just admitted is not good.

1065
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 23: No, it's definitely not that people don't want it. It's

1066
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 23: an active secondary market out there at the moment. But

1067
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 23: what we've done is we dealt with the issue that

1068
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 23: the market have identified, which is oversupply, and we've taken

1069
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 23: that oversupply out of the market from next year and

1070
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 23: we believe that that will provide stability in that market

1071
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 23: for people to trade.

1072
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: Okay, part of the problem, and the argument wasn't the

1073
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: previous government is worth the government keep coming into the

1074
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: market and interfering and changing the rules. What that does

1075
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: is provide uncertainty. And the worst thing you want is

1076
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: a person who might purchase a carbon credit is uncertainty.

1077
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: And you've just provided more uncertainty. And look how many

1078
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: people turned up And the answer is no one, No.

1079
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 10: We haven't.

1080
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 23: I've been really clear, and that the uncertainty came from

1081
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 23: the last government saying we're not sure if forestry is

1082
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 23: going to be in or out of the ets. I mean,

1083
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 23: forestry is a thirty forty year investment horizon. That utility

1084
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 23: just sent shockwaves through the system. We've been really clear

1085
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 23: forestryes are removal as part of the model that we

1086
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 23: do to reduce emissions, and that's part and partial of

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Speaker 23: that marketplace. And we've been very clear, and I've had

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Speaker 23: some very positive feedback back from the sector. We appreciate

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Speaker 23: the certainty that you're putting into that market and the

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Speaker 23: markets operating as it should do it them.

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Speaker 2: Ok.

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Speaker 3: So can you say and directly connect the two. Can

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Speaker 3: you say, our emissions as a country are dropping, and

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Speaker 3: if they are dropping, it as a direct result of

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Speaker 3: a market working nicely in the carbon credit sector.

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Speaker 23: The ETS is definitely playing a role in regards to reduce.

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Speaker 3: The ETS is the big picture. The carbon market is

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Speaker 3: part of the ETS. So is the carbon market providing

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Speaker 3: to a direct reduction in our emissions? As is the plan.

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Speaker 23: It is, there's the objective of that overarching marketplace is

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Speaker 23: providing the tension required between those that produce emissions and

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Speaker 23: those that you know, we need to be able to

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Speaker 23: reduce it. And that price point is allowing that that

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Speaker 23: trajectory of missions reductions to come down, which is where

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Speaker 23: we need to get to. But we're aiming for twenty fifty.

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Speaker 23: This is a long period of trajectory and you know,

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Speaker 23: we've just got to be stable and calm and just

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Speaker 23: let it, let the market do what the market needs

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Speaker 23: to do, and not continually try and you know send

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Speaker 23: signals to the market that causes volatility for sectors like

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Speaker 23: the big players that you know it is not helpful.

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Speaker 3: Oh come, I'm good to talk to you. Appreciate it. Simon,

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Speaker 3: what's the climate change minister speaking? Which sixteen minutes away

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Speaker 3: fromote paskings quickly? I think I called it. Volvo have

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Speaker 3: announced overnight globally that their plans to sell only electric

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Speaker 3: vehicles by twenty thirty is now off. No kidding. They've

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Speaker 3: abandoned the near term goal of selling only electric vehicles.

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Speaker 3: They need to be quote unquote pragmatic and flexible. That

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Speaker 3: would involve putting an engine in the front of the

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Speaker 3: car the way they always have and they I mean

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Speaker 3: it works it out.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to two the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be morning, Mike. What I think we can take

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Speaker 3: from Simon's interview, and especially the last paragrapher, is that

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Speaker 3: he knows full of while he's flogging a load of crap,

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00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: and they need to be seen to be doing something.

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Speaker 3: He also hopes that twenty fifty will have bigger things

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Speaker 3: to worry about. By then, there will be very few countries.

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Speaker 3: Not this is mill not that it's a big one,

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00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: but there'll be very few countries that ever get to

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Speaker 3: be zero unless there's some sort of maps massive scientific

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Speaker 3: breakthrough between now and then. Most countries won't make the

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Speaker 3: zero by twenty fifty. And I think increasingly as each

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Speaker 3: year passes, we all understand it. Don't mean we like it,

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Speaker 3: but we understand it. Right to Watercres, is this a scandal?

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Speaker 3: Very good work yet again by Kate McNamara, who's I

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Speaker 3: don't know what they pay her at the Herald, but

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Speaker 3: she owns every cent and then she probably deserves a

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Speaker 3: pay rise. But anyway, Watercres twenty million dollar deal with

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Speaker 3: EWE Murky benefits to ratepayers. So water Care this goes

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Speaker 3: back to when water Care. This is the Auckland water people.

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00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: They had to go down to the Whykatta rivers, so

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Speaker 3: can we pull more water out because we haven't got it,

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Speaker 3: because we haven't built up dams because we useless so

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00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: it didn't rain, didn't have enough dams. Go down to

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Speaker 3: deal with the people at the Wycata River pull more

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Speaker 3: water out of the Waycata River. So we all remember

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Speaker 3: that because we're all angsty about it at the time

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Speaker 3: water Care agreed. It's revealed now to an additional payment

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Speaker 3: of twenty million dollars related to its water take without

1152
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Speaker 3: the knowledge of the ratepayer negotiator with EWE December last

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00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: year agreement relating to relationship matters. It's the category it

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Speaker 3: falls under a million bucks a year for twenty years

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Speaker 3: to fund water related research and environmental projects. The agreement

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Speaker 3: was not disclosed to the public. The payments it provides

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Speaker 3: for are in addition to considerable environmental payments already agreed

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Speaker 3: to by water Care in twenty twenty two as a

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00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 3: condition of the ascent the consent. So they did all

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Speaker 3: of that. So if you're looking at that, going oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: but fair enough, it's environmental, but they already cut the

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Speaker 3: environmental part in the part that we knew about way

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Speaker 3: Kato Tai Nui liaison is also a condition, including the

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Speaker 3: provision for a Tongueta Fen liaison group that provides for

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Speaker 3: the reasonable costs of two katiarchy advisors guardians to monitor

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Speaker 3: the water Care water take. So that's twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: So is the scam the fact that they got another

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Speaker 3: twenty million, and if they got another twenty million out

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Speaker 3: of them. Do you not go? Actually, good on you,

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Speaker 3: because if you came to me and you wanted my

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Speaker 3: water and I knew you were stuffed, I'd ask you

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Speaker 3: for twenty million as well. Or is the scam that

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: they paid the twenty million and they didn't tell anybody

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Speaker 3: about it, and of course you know full well who's

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Speaker 3: twenty million. It is good to know that business is

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Speaker 3: above board in this country, isn't it. Ten minutes away

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Speaker 3: from eight, the mic.

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Speaker 1: Hosting breakfast with the Jaguar f Base News Talk said

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Speaker 1: b s living.

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Speaker 3: Away from it could be like the good old days.

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Speaker 3: The CEO of South African Rugby's let's slip plans involving

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Speaker 3: in All Blacks tour in twenty twenty six, so you'd

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Speaker 3: have three tests, eight match tour in twenty thirty. The

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Speaker 3: box may even come here, so it's exciting. Former All

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Speaker 3: Black Josh Cromfeld's with us on this Josh Bonney Morning.

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Speaker 17: You like it, Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 21: I think. You know it's it offers a change up

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Speaker 21: again on the current system and you know there's something

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Speaker 21: from from the heritage of of of the relationship between

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Speaker 21: South Africa and New Zealand and be kind of nice

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Speaker 21: to have, you know, a tour system that's a little

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Speaker 21: bit you know, maybe like the Lions traveling, and just

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Speaker 21: that that that that that sort of four year cycle.

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Speaker 3: The world South Africa, because you wouldn't want a three

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Speaker 3: test eight match to a Fiji or Australia at the moment,

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Speaker 3: would you.

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Speaker 21: No, Well no, but it is because it is South Africa,

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Speaker 21: you know, like it's They're a fantastic rugby nation. They

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Speaker 21: live and breather, They're a lot like us in that respect.

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Speaker 21: And then the internal games because I mean, I don't

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Speaker 21: know the logistics yet, but you to assume if if

1202
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Speaker 21: there's a three or four tests over there, there'll be

1203
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Speaker 21: midweek games and it means that you get to play

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Speaker 21: either maybe some of the franchise teams that are playing

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Speaker 21: over in uk or or the traditional provincial teams that

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Speaker 21: you know what it used to be. And so that

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Speaker 21: just that that offers a fantastic sort of opportunity for

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Speaker 21: our young players who kind on their fringe All Black

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Speaker 21: and an opportunity to push through into the next fold

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Speaker 21: and creates competition within the the All Blacks you know program.

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Speaker 21: It's just it's just it's just nice and then likewise

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Speaker 21: coming back here, you know, wonderful to have the opportunity

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Speaker 21: to sneaker a spring block head and you know, as

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Speaker 21: as a provincial team, it's pretty neat.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea that we played the best sides

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Speaker 3: in the world too. I mean, I suppose out of

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Speaker 3: last week, are you bullish about this next test? The

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Speaker 3: second Test in South Africa?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 21: Look, I'm super nervous. I think, you know, after last

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 21: week showed we showed intention and it didn't didn't quite

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Speaker 21: finish off the way that they wanted it to. I

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Speaker 21: think will they be able to sneak the start that

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Speaker 21: they had this weekend? Maybe maybe not. You know, like

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Speaker 21: I think we caught them a little bit napping and

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Speaker 21: their system got them through, you know, the way that

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Speaker 21: they bring on a whole forward pack. And you know,

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Speaker 21: the questions were asked of our reserves. You know, do

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Speaker 21: we organize our lineup a little bit and you know,

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Speaker 21: swap our front row to come on second and you know,

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Speaker 21: the current one I don't know, Like it's it will

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Speaker 21: be my games that management that razorwap to deal with

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Speaker 21: and then and there that's what he's been wanting to do.

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Speaker 21: He's been wanting the top job and now he's got

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Speaker 21: that juggle and got a live Yeah, yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 21: I mean the pressure's on, but at the same time,

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Speaker 21: I think they're really capable and it was just a

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Speaker 21: few mistakes from our reserves that kind of let the

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Speaker 21: the pressure off. And you know, like this weekend, if

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Speaker 21: it's those same guys that that won't be happening.

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Speaker 3: No, I won't good on you, make good to catch up.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much, doctor Krinfeld Cornroy Black. Of course,

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Speaker 3: raisers on the program tomorrow will sort them out. An

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Speaker 3: worry news for you. In a couple of moments, speaking

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Speaker 3: of champions, Dame Lisa Carrington with all the medals, next.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News togs.

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Speaker 3: He'd be seven past eight for some the Olympics. After

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Speaker 3: the event, they're asking what is next to name Lisa

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Speaker 3: Carrington as one of those people. She may go again.

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Speaker 3: Of course she may not. Nine medals across four games,

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Speaker 3: either of them gold. Meantime. Turns out she's an author

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Speaker 3: of children's book aimed at four to nine year olds.

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Speaker 3: It's called Lisa Carrington chases a champion. Lisa Carrington's with

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Speaker 3: us morning.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, good morning, It's lovely to be.

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Speaker 3: Here now, Elise Andrews, who we had in the program

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. So these are these eclectic questions.

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Speaker 3: I ask people like you, what's your observation, giving your

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: experience at the elite end of sport, that most sports

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Speaker 3: people are elegant, eloquent and together as human beings. What

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Speaker 3: is it about sport that makes you that way?

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Speaker 25: I wouldn't not everyone's like that, right, I thank you? No,

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Speaker 25: I think, I guess as a sports person, and particularly

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Speaker 25: maybe in New Zealander, if you're working on yourself as

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Speaker 25: a human, your performance is also unlocked in that way.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the value then of programs, so rowing, paddling, cycling, sailing,

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Speaker 3: equestrian at Olympic level has been very good. What weight

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Speaker 3: do you place on the value of programs to propel

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Speaker 3: athletes forward?

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Speaker 25: For I guess in my experience it's the people and

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01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 25: the I guess, the desire to push boundaries, to grow,

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Speaker 25: to learn, to figure out how just to get better.

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Speaker 25: So for us program is really that is important. But

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Speaker 25: also my coach, my teammates, that's a huge importance.

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Speaker 3: What's the role in your life of the coach.

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Speaker 10: He?

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Speaker 25: I guess Gordy he writes the program, he plans our campaign.

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Speaker 25: It's huge and he's a mentor as well, so he

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Speaker 25: has a huge influence on my performance.

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Speaker 2: Has he?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you grow closer over time. But is

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Speaker 3: it one of those things if you're the right person,

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Speaker 3: you can be coached by anybody or is it a

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Speaker 3: very individual thing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: I think if you're a learner, if you've got to

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Speaker 25: be coachable, so absolutely you can be coached by anyone.

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Speaker 25: And I think you've got to really understand what you

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Speaker 25: need and how people can help you, and that people

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Speaker 25: aren't there to serve you. That you've got to figure out,

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Speaker 25: you know, what you can probably do for them. And

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Speaker 25: I guess have an aligned vision of where you want

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Speaker 25: to go.

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Speaker 3: When you get to what you've achieved, what's still coachable?

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Speaker 25: That's I guess that is the challenge is to make

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Speaker 25: sure that I still don't believe I know everything, so

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Speaker 25: I still have to get better technically, physically, So it's.

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Speaker 3: See I find that hard to believe. Is that just

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Speaker 3: one of those things you say to yourself just because

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Speaker 3: what you really want to say is there is no

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Speaker 3: one better than me. And that's not an arrogant thing

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Speaker 3: to say, it's just a statement of truth.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, But I guess there's like what is the what

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Speaker 25: is the measure of best? Or you'll be like, it's

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Speaker 25: only your best.

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Speaker 3: Right gold?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I don't know, Like I guess you are competing

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Speaker 25: against we are competing against people, but what is is

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Speaker 25: it a world record? Is it your best? So I

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Speaker 25: think you have to look beyond the finish line or

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Speaker 25: a gold medal and go Actually, I want to be

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Speaker 25: I want to be able to do this and every

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Speaker 25: time you achieve those little things winning a gold medal.

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Speaker 25: If I thought that winning a gold medal was my best,

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Speaker 25: I would have stopped in London. I would have stopped

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Speaker 25: after Rio. I would have stopped after So like you've

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Speaker 25: got to figure out, like what is more? And as

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Speaker 25: I think you know there's I think you can just

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Speaker 25: completely learn and grow as a person.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be more than Do you think you're

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Speaker 3: still doing that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: I think I've learned so much in the last year.

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Speaker 25: Every year, like I guess you kind of there's one

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Speaker 25: of our coaches said, if you're not embarrassed by the

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Speaker 25: person you were, you're not so like it. I think you.

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Speaker 25: I think it's like if I look through every medal,

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Speaker 25: every moment, it's not always about the medals, you know that,

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Speaker 25: they're just they just signify that moment. Yeah, but you know, man,

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Speaker 25: I just it's got to be more than crossing the

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Speaker 25: finish line first.

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Speaker 3: It has to be I just can't work out what

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Speaker 3: that is though. See, that's that's the person, that's the

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Speaker 3: fascinating thing. You must be going through that right now, then,

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Speaker 3: mustn't you.

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Absolutely? I think also finishing having done the sport for

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Speaker 25: this long. It's taken me this long to really perform

1341
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Speaker 25: and that week of Paris and have like one hundred

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Speaker 25: joy and satisfaction and racing and I think a lot

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Speaker 25: of the time I've raced in the past and it's

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Speaker 25: been out of just needing to win, just because that's

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Speaker 25: the expectation on me. But for Paris, I managed it

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Speaker 25: to a place where I was like, you know what,

1347
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Speaker 25: I'm just going to do my best. I love my teammates. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 25: we have given our heart and soul into this.

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Speaker 3: So but that because I'll tell you what that is

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Speaker 3: what that is is you've got nothing left.

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Speaker 25: To prove, or you just don't have to prove anything.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, no one doubts who you

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Speaker 3: are and what you're about, so therefore you can truly

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Speaker 3: enjoy it and be yourself and express yourself in your

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Speaker 3: case with the pedal.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, exactly. And I think you can probably find that

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Speaker 25: in any stage, whether you are going to come last

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Speaker 25: or come first. But that is probably the hardest thing

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Speaker 25: to do, is.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to leave? And I don't want to

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Speaker 3: ask you tricky questions that you'll squirm over, but do

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Speaker 3: you just just big picture stuff? Do you want to

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Speaker 3: have you even thought about it? Do you want to

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Speaker 3: leave at the top or it doesn't bother you?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, that's I think you would. I don't know. I

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Speaker 25: think in sport right now, being in the position I am,

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Speaker 25: you know, being the fastest I've ever been, strongest, whatever,

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Speaker 25: it is hard to think, oh maybe I'll stop now,

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Speaker 25: because well what else is there? So I don't know.

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Speaker 25: Maybe I think, to be honest, it has to be

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Speaker 25: a different thing. So every olympacts is different. And if

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Speaker 25: I go to that next stage of life for whatever,

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Speaker 25: it's almost like you have to it has to be

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Speaker 25: about something else. So the challenge has to be different.

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Speaker 25: And so maybe the challenge is so big the next

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Speaker 25: one that I can't be the best.

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, hold on more questions in a moment,

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Speaker 3: and we got the medals in the studio as well.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio pow

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Speaker 1: it By News.

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Speaker 3: Talks It Talks At sixteen past eight, Lisa Carrington with us.

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Speaker 3: Next question, would you still go to the Olympics? Do

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Speaker 3: you think knowing you're not the best?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, that's I think that's this is where.

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Speaker 3: This is where we're at. And do you take advice

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Speaker 3: on that? Are you one of those people who thinks

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Speaker 3: that stuff for yourself?

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Speaker 25: No, I definitely take advice. I really have a you know,

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Speaker 25: there's a handful of people that I've had in my

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Speaker 25: life for a good fifteen years that have helped me

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Speaker 25: get to this point. Yeah, And I think you have

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Speaker 25: to rely. I think it actually just comes back to

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Speaker 25: who you are, what you want and am I on

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Speaker 25: a path that I enjoy?

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Speaker 3: Good on you, And obviously part of that is the

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Speaker 3: business of getting up. I assume it's early and paddling

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Speaker 3: for long hours and doing what you do, which is

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Speaker 3: the other part I admire so much about you. You

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Speaker 3: seem to be above all elite athletes who are all

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Speaker 3: dedicated to what they do that next level up, which

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Speaker 3: is the you know what you need to do to

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Speaker 3: get to be the best. And there's something in that,

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Speaker 3: isn't there? Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Absolutely, and it's I mean it's I guess we you know,

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Speaker 25: it's compounding interest. So years and years of being at

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Speaker 25: a high level, you keep adding experience training to the

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Speaker 25: bank and it just compounds over time. So yeah, I

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Speaker 25: guess I have a fair bit of ip that I

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Speaker 25: would just continue to love to share as well.

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Speaker 3: Where does age fit in and the physical can straints

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Speaker 3: of age?

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Speaker 25: I think there's a conception that sport is short, especially

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Speaker 25: for females, So I am not sure. I think we're

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Speaker 25: exploring new areas. I don't know. There's not too many

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Speaker 25: New Zealand Olympic athletes that are over thirty five.

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Speaker 3: How old are you?

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Speaker 25: Thirty five? Okay, yeah, you're younger than that. You'll you'll

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Speaker 25: be thirty nine, yeah, yeah, the next one.

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Speaker 3: And so is there a group of people out there

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Speaker 3: that can guide you in that sense that thirty nine

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Speaker 3: is not a thing.

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Speaker 25: Or absolutely I think we just you know, like there's

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Speaker 25: no limit.

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Speaker 3: I think what will that be made up of? Will

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Speaker 3: that be made how much of it will be made

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Speaker 3: up of diet, training, psychology, experience and all those other

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Speaker 3: bits and pieces versus just the natural Your body does

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Speaker 3: what your body does and there's nothing you can do

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I guess that's what we're learning. Like as athletes,

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Speaker 25: we are a constant experiment, so data has been gathered

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Speaker 25: all the time, you know, our sleep data, our training data,

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Speaker 25: heart rate, etc. So I guess what we're learning is

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Speaker 25: although there's improvement, it's that when does that improvement stop happening?

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Speaker 25: And what does that do to is it? Yeah, physiology,

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Speaker 25: is it, mentality, diet, But yeah, there's definitely a play

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Speaker 25: of I'm sure there's a point where your body can't

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Speaker 25: do more, but your mind might be able to do.

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Speaker 3: You enjoy being disciplined, because here's the other thing I

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Speaker 3: think about a lot, and that is that the discipline.

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Speaker 3: It's great when you're doing it, but when you do

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Speaker 3: it all the time, you think, geez, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 3: great just to blob out for a while and just

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Speaker 3: let myself go a bit, And you see it the

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Speaker 3: lot of next athletes who clearly have and I've never

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Speaker 3: quite got me. But I wonder if are you disciplined

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Speaker 3: naturally so that no matter we you end up in life,

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Speaker 3: you will be a disciplined person.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, maybe there's a bit of fear there. If I'm

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Speaker 25: not disciplined, things won't go well. So I think there's

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Speaker 25: probably a natural worry that I need to stay disciplined.

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Speaker 25: But I think you just learn. It's gradual.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 25: I've figured out for me an equation where I can

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Speaker 25: be disciplined, but it just becomes kind of daily, So

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Speaker 25: it's not huge, like you know, you've got to stick

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Speaker 25: to this routine and got to eat all this food.

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Speaker 25: It's actually small things that I've developed that make it

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Speaker 25: easier to turn up fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, which brings you to As to the children's book,

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Speaker 3: this is an exercise is about what?

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Speaker 25: So it's really about the journey of eight year old

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Speaker 25: Lisa having a goal and the journey of achieving it,

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Speaker 25: and that comes with little challenges and ways to kind

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Speaker 25: of come back to it.

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Speaker 3: Do you seem to message in the book that all

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Speaker 3: things are possible because one of it, because I'm being

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Speaker 3: older than you and I'm an old dinosaur and all

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Speaker 3: that crap. The way that could dealt with these days

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Speaker 3: perhaps not the way that you were dealt with as

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Speaker 3: a child, and certainly I wasn't, And that is that

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Speaker 3: there's a little bit too much leeway about turning up

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Speaker 3: and not you know, when it doesn't really matter all

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Speaker 3: that much and stuff like that. Do you send a

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Speaker 3: message that turning up counts sometimes?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Absolutely, That is one of the messages in the book.

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Speaker 25: Young Lisa has a friend and she's so she asked

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Speaker 25: her for advice, and she said, it's just about showing up.

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Speaker 25: And so, you know, it's about turning up. It talks

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Speaker 25: about turning up. It's about your parents being that person

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Speaker 25: that listens to you. There's so many little messages in

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Speaker 25: there from you know, about a little bit about discipline

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Speaker 25: or having a plan, but also that you know there

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Speaker 25: are challenges and you have to keep turning up.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that one of the great stories of the Olympic Games?

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Speaker 3: And we saw it recently in Paris. Is everyone had

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Speaker 3: a mum or a dad, or an uncle or an auntie,

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Speaker 3: and they were all there. It was like, there it is,

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Speaker 3: this is the moment, and we've all worked towards this

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Speaker 3: and it's the greatest thing in the world, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I think it's really special to be able to share

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Speaker 25: that with the people at home, you know, that have

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Speaker 25: come there to what you perform, and particularly like it

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Speaker 25: went so well for us at the games and so

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Speaker 25: for you know, across the board, and so I think

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Speaker 25: you know your parents, they give so much.

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Speaker 3: Don't they? All everyone does? So this takes you where.

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Speaker 3: This is the first of eighteen books.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I hope to do a couple more children's books.

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 25: So at the end there it I kind of shares

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Speaker 25: it is another journey, so it keeps you on the edgy.

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Speaker 3: Well, she can have journeys and adventures till forever, can't.

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Speaker 25: She always too many lessons to learn and relearn?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 3: Good on you, well, thank you for bringing these glorious

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Speaker 3: things in. Do you wake them by the way in

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Speaker 3: terms of importance or moments.

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Speaker 25: Learnings, feelings? And you know, I guess it's like every

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Speaker 25: one of those medals, I am kind of am a

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Speaker 25: different person, more experienced or whatever. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 25: they they're all pretty they're all pretty special, but I

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. Listen, go well, we'll put the video

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Speaker 3: up so over and can see the medals in a moment.

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Speaker 3: she is amazing, isn't she? What an amazing person, he

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you like it. Wow, Dame Lisa, What a

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Speaker 3: woman she is. She's impressed of humble yet driven. What

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Speaker 3: an example she is setting. Everybody loves Lisa Carrington and

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Speaker 3: there I suggest actually that pretty much everyone loves one

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Speaker 3: little which is just as well because he's up after

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Speaker 3: the news, which is next Big.

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Speaker 1: News fold Opinions. The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: f base cut from a different class news talks.

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Speaker 3: dB from the Bureau of Investigation and George this morning,

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Speaker 3: keeping you up to date with what's happened in the

1557
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Speaker 3: shooting where they got a fourteen year old so we

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 3: can't confirm it as a fourteen year old and custody

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Speaker 3: to teachers are dead. And then we come to the

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Speaker 3: Grenfell report, which was one of the things we were

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: talking about earlier on this morning. He yet another one

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Speaker 3: of these Grenfell reports. The disaster a couple of years ago.

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 3: Now report came out overnight. So Deep Kahn of course

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Speaker 3: has commented.

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Speaker 26: Every single death was avoidable and that's goot wrenching to read.

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Speaker 26: We're having black and white the chair to the inquiry

1567
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 26: and they sat for more than four hundred days, concluding

1568
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 26: there was a systematic dishonesty, corporate greed, institutional indifference, neglect

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 26: and incompetence.

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Speaker 18: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 18: for New Zealand business giving.

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Speaker 3: The middle of means you can't argue with that. Other

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 3: matters in Britain.

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Speaker 12: Rod morning to you.

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: Mate, So around one. I gave you the numbers earlier

1576
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: on patell is out is Patel being out round one

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 3: of surprise or not really not.

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 12: According to the bookies, slightly so according to me. I

1579
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 12: thought she would have had a bit more heft, but

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01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 12: I think that an awful one of her votes will

1581
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 12: go to now to James Cleverly, and maybe a few

1582
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 12: to Kemmy Badanocky. She's quite a figure, pretty hotel but

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01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 12: I think a bit like with Suella Brotherman, people within

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 12: the Conservative Party fear that she'd may not necessarily be

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 12: a unifying factor.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so is that about personality or is it about policy?

1587
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 3: Are they arguing on how I'm going to lead the Tories?

1588
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: Or are you just looking guy, Robert? There's old Tom

1589
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: and he's a dickhead, so I won't play for him.

1590
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 12: A bit of both, certainly with Patel, a lot will

1591
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 12: be on personality. She is a very spiky individual. I

1592
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 12: rather like her to be honest. Kemmy Badanock is less

1593
01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 12: obviously aggressive and probably probably even more so rooted on

1594
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 12: the right of the party. And what we're looking at

1595
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 12: basically is a long drawn out and boring contest which

1596
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 12: will in the end come down to Robert Jenrick who

1597
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 12: won that today versus probably Kemmy Badanock, who came second,

1598
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 12: and it's kind of lemmy all changed cleverly, but you

1599
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 12: would guess kemmy badenock.

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Speaker 3: So this guy and me interrupts Sight interrupt Rob because

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 3: I try and follow this as closely as I can.

1602
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 3: But this guy generic seems to have come a little

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: bit out of lift or right field. He's been spread

1604
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 3: the other day by the TABLOI as I was not.

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 3: Is he sort of the force of the future or

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 3: we don't know that, We don't know.

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 12: That he is on a kind of epic scale more

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 12: boring than I can possibly describe in the short time

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01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 12: that we have this evening to discripse this threat is

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01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 12: a very very boring centrist is quite, is quite literality,

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01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 12: is able to speak well. But there is no vision

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01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 12: there that I see. You look at Europe and the

1613
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 12: way politics is changed in there, and there is no

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01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 12: real grasp within the Conservative Party that they might take

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Speaker 12: hold of some of that momentum and move forward. Generally,

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01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 12: I think would be the worst of all worlds for

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 12: the Conservative Party. And when it comes to a vote

1618
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 12: of the members rather than just the MP's general will

1619
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 12: win among the members, among the parliamentarians, but he will

1620
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 12: not win when it comes to the members.

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Speaker 3: Okay, other side of the house. I was watching PMQ's

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Speaker 3: and the Parliament. I thought there was interesting about Starmer

1623
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: was in trouble with the train drivers, giving them all

1624
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 3: the money while taking money off the heating for the

1625
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 3: pinches and and all that stuff. As regards Angela Rainer

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01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: and there's right to buy scheme, where are we at

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Speaker 3: with that?

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Speaker 12: Well, she is now in discussions to end the right

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Speaker 12: to buy scheme, which was introduced by Margaret tacherin nineteen

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Speaker 12: eighty in the Housing Act of nineteen eighty and led

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 12: to what was, to the embarrassment of the left, the

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 12: biggest transfer of wealth, the redistribution of wealth in the

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 12: history of this country. So suddenly all these working class

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 12: people who were in social in council housing were able

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Speaker 12: to buy their own homes, and one of those people,

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 12: remarkably was Angela Rainer. But now she wants to stop

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 12: everybody else doing it, and it kind of reinforces in

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Speaker 12: the mind this is the Labor Party, which is, you know,

1639
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 12: don't do as I do, do as I say, and

1640
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 12: there's one rule for us and one rule for you.

1641
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 12: And what it did do the right to buy scheme

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01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 12: was enabled poor people to get on the housing matter.

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 12: Now the housing matter is ever more difficult to get

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 12: onto these days, and now this prop looks as if

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01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 12: it's going to be withdrawn.

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Speaker 3: OK, give us a quick up date since we've last

1647
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: talked the thirty licenses of the three hundred and fifty.

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 3: This is the weapons exporting to Israel. How's that gone

1649
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: down in Israel? And what role does the raw that

1650
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: particular war still play in the Psyche? If your average

1651
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 3: Britain on any given.

1652
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 12: Day, it's questionable about what role it plays within the

1653
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 12: lives of Britain's and what way they tend. What it's

1654
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 12: done has hugely annoyed the United States of America. It's

1655
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 12: hugely annoyed one of our principal allies in the Middle East, Israel.

1656
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 12: And it's hugely annoyed the Jewish community, including the Board

1657
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 12: of Jewish Deputies in this country. And so in summation,

1658
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 12: it is absolutely everything you would have expected an idiot

1659
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 12: like David Lammy, who is God knows how our foreign

1660
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 12: secretary to.

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Speaker 3: Have done good only might catch up next week. Appreciate

1662
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: it very much. Share Rod a little in Thursday morning.

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 3: Out of the UK four seventeen to nine, as Luxon

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: has sort of tweeted out over and out from Malaysia.

1665
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: This was obviously esday because he's in career at the moment.

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01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 3: I saw a forecast for Korea. Funnily enough, it was

1667
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: thirty thirty three or thirty five degrees over and up

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01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: from Malaysia. After a busy couple of days, Next up Korea.

1669
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: Who then comments on the post elon Musk no less

1670
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 3: have to say. I like the New New Zealand PM,

1671
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 3: good energy and talks directly to the public. This is

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01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: the way, can't argue.

1673
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Speaker 1: Seventeen to two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 3: B fourteen minutes away from nine. I'm reading about ACC

1676
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: yesterday and it's reminded me of my Pool saga. And

1677
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you about my Pool saga yet,

1678
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: but it's the similar level of dysfunction so ACC. God

1679
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 3: only knows what it's like to deal with ACC. I've

1680
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: never I've been fortunate in my life. I've never had

1681
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: to deal with ACC. But ACC have reinstated personal case

1682
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: managers for nearly twelve and a half thousand clients and

1683
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: this is a u turn on their seventy four million

1684
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 3: dollar restructure. And for new clients receiving weekly compensation, they're

1685
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: giving you an individual case manager. Because gaps emerged. As

1686
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 3: part of their seventy four million dollar rejig, it was

1687
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 3: called next Generation case management. We're announcing today next Generation

1688
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: case management is going to cost seventy four million dollars

1689
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: and you won't know yourself. This was started back in

1690
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. It was touted as a way to increase productivity,

1691
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 3: to save costs, to improve workloads, but unfortunately it was

1692
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: plagued with problems. They had a review two years after

1693
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: it started in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, they

1694
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 3: had an internal review and it found that the running

1695
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: cost had almost doubled. So in fact, there wasn't a

1696
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 3: lot of saving going on. It's just a lot of

1697
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 3: spending going on because the cost had almost doubled. The

1698
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: benefits to clients. Heaven forbid we bring them into the

1699
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: equation because he gives the monkeys about the clients. For

1700
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: goodness sake that they they had a look at the clients.

1701
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 3: The benefits of the clients were still quote unquote unclear,

1702
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: So despite the quote unquote teething problems, the new system

1703
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: was still worth the investment. This was the a SEC

1704
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 3: chief executive at the time, Megan Maine. It's Megan still there.

1705
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 3: You reckon just a quick google see if Meghan's still there.

1706
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 3: You know it's well worth the investment, despite the fact

1707
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: it was costing seventy four million dollars plus all the

1708
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 3: extra money, the teething problems they were having and the

1709
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 3: stuff that was unclear anyway. Then they had another review,

1710
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: because why wouldn't you having started in twenty twenty and

1711
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: then have a lovely review in twenty twenty two. They

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: had a second review in twenty three last year may

1713
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: have twenty three, and they found unfortunately it was still

1714
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 3: not working as intended due to quote unquote gaps between

1715
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: the quote unquote the blueprint and the delivered product. So

1716
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 3: in other words, it was a cockup. Now they've gone

1717
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 3: back now to giving you a case manager, which trains

1718
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 3: me back to my poll, which once again I'm not

1719
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 3: going to tell you the full story at but what

1720
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: happens when you deal with the council is you don't

1721
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: have a manager, you don't have a per and you

1722
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: don't have a go to. You don't have a contact.

1723
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 15: You don't have a Megan Maine.

1724
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: You certainly don't have a Megan Maine. She's still there.

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01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: She's probably worth getting on. So Meghan, hey, how about

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 3: the cock cup?

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, I've got you.

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 15: Can you do anything about my pool?

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01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 3: Exactly? So, you don't have when you do a pool,

1730
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 3: you don't have a manager. You don't have a case

1731
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: person who looks after you in any way, shape or form.

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: What you do in all communications. First of all, you

1733
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: can't ring them. It's not allowed, So you must email them,

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01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 3: and you email all information any questions you want to

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01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 3: a pool. It's the pool email, and it sits in

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: the pool for and that's not a joke, by the way.

1737
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 3: It's not literally a pool. It sits in the pool

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01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 3: of emails for days on end until like Sue's board,

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01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: and Sue goes, oh my, go to the pool of

1740
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 3: emails and see if there's one for me, pulls it

1741
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: out and that might be something she's seen before or not.

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01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 3: And anyway she has oh, this is Brian's pool. This

1743
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: is interesting. He's looking after Brian's pool. Of course that

1744
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 3: person will be out to lunch and that we know

1745
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: it in the room. So then she goes, well, I

1746
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: haven't seen this case before. I need to go back

1747
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: to the beginning. And that's what happens over and over

1748
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: and over again, and it's exactly clearly what happened to

1749
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: acc Every time you had a claim or I wanted

1750
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: to talk to somebody, you'd ring Brian or Stephen and

1751
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: they go, well, I don't know anything about your case, mate,

1752
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 3: I need to go right back to the beginning here,

1753
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: and let's start from the beginning, shall we? Now? What's

1754
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: your name? And funnily enough, they've changed that back to

1755
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,959
Speaker 3: the way it used to be. Nine away from nine.

1756
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: The costume breakfast with a veta retirement Communities news'd.

1757
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 3: Be actually speaking of the old Pierre and grocery fascination.

1758
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: This business of the Commerce Commission and the merger, I

1759
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: just don't see it happening. Do you see the food

1760
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 3: Stuff's merger? Food food Stuff North and food Stuff South

1761
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: want to merge. And this has been going on for

1762
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 3: ages for most of the year. They put out a

1763
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: preliminary report and they said they've got a bunch of problems,

1764
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: and as far as I can tell, they've still got problems.

1765
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 3: I just in this climate, I think the chances of

1766
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 3: that going ahead must be pretty close to zero. Mike

1767
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: Phizzio forty four years. It's a good job you like that,

1768
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 3: John forty four years. Acc has often been a night mere.

1769
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 3: Billions have been spent on the likes of this. It

1770
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 3: doesn't surprise me. It's to be honest, it just depresses

1771
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: the producers out of me.

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 21: Mike.

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01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 3: Meghan Main was in charge of the managed isolation for

1774
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: MB during COVID. Was she and Meghan look her up?

1775
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 3: Come on quickly, look her up? Was she in charge

1776
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 3: and managed isolation or not? I just want to check,

1777
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 3: think of fact checking. If you don't like the job,

1778
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 3: you can go somewhere else. Mate doesn't matter. There's plenty

1779
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: of people behind you.

1780
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 15: He may have been slightly distractive because I was telling

1781
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 15: him about being on an online chat with one New Zealand.

1782
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1783
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: Well that's the next problem, isn't it. That's robot chats.

1784
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: You don't want to go down that track. Have you

1785
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: had one disappear? Little You're on a chat and you

1786
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 3: ask them question they vanished, person vanishes?

1787
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 15: Well, you don't want to be refreshing the page or

1788
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 15: anything like that. That's the end of your conversation, You've

1789
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 15: got to start all over again.

1790
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, precisely. Where was she was she in charge? It

1791
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 3: was deputy chief season not Reby in charge then so

1792
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: promoted to acc to then implement that well known policy

1793
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty that got reviewed in twenty twenty two

1794
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three. I'm probably Megan's probably the nicest

1795
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: person in the world. Shall we get on? I wouldn't

1796
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: know what to ask her now. I've told all the

1797
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 3: stories five away from trending now him as well Spring

1798
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 3: Frenzy sale on now surely has got to come to

1799
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: an in sooner or later. Somebody, someone's going to pull

1800
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 3: the plug on this nonsense night bitch. So that's a movie.

1801
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 3: It's based on a novel of the same name, Glenn,

1802
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: have you seen or just the promos? No, just the

1803
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 3: promo okay, he says, looks okay. So it's about a

1804
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 3: new mum whose maternal instincts start to manifest in canine form.

1805
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 12: Straight.

1806
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 18: I used to be it.

1807
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: Wow, that feels like a lifetime agos.

1808
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, totally, definitely, we got it.

1809
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 6: I used to be a stripper before times.

1810
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 26: Each week up, I will whip your throat out.

1811
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 11: Hey, motherhood I'm trained and connects you to some primal urges.

1812
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm stuck.

1813
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 2: Make up a plan, draw up a schedule. Happiness is choice.

1814
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:22,520
Speaker 20: You're never going to be smart happy.

1815
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 12: Again.

1816
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: Oh and I'm pretty sure I'm turning into a dog.

1817
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 3: You're so funny, Amy Adams, who I quite like, and

1818
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 3: directed by the woman who did The Queen's Gambit, which

1819
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 3: I also liked. So apparently it's not supposed to be funny.

1820
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: So are you telling me?

1821
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 15: Well, I think it's just not supposed to be a spoof,

1822
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 15: you know, Okay, it's I think it's definitely funny.

1823
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: So horror with some humor.

1824
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, watching it, I'm not. I'm still not. Even though

1825
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 15: I've seen the whole trailer. I still don't know whether

1826
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 15: she is actually turning into a dog or she just

1827
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 15: thinks she's turning into a dog.

1828
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: It's in cinemas sometime in September. As that designed to

1829
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 3: toy with people because we don't don'natething exact done. Set

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: aside all of December just you don't want to miss.

1831
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 15: Say, I always sit aside December in case.

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01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: You just never know. Back tomorrow for the Friday morning edition.

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01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 3: It's hard to believe. It's tends to be a bit

1834
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 3: loose on a Friday. I'm just sitting here thinking Weld

1835
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 3: knows what's going to happen. Back tomorrow from six Happy Days,

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01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 3: Oh aren't You? I need you, Olka.

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01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:39,160
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01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,680
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