1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside with one room 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: to make your property search simple. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: News Dogs, it'd be good morning. Welcome to early edition 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, the twelfth of February. I'm Francisco Radkin filling 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: in for Andrew Dickins this morning. Good to have you 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: with us. You're most welcome to contact me anytime this morning. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: You can flick through a text on ninety two ninety 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: two or you can email me at Francesca at newstorgsib 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: dot co dot nz. Right on the show today, the 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Fungerrai Mayor is with us to talk about New Zealand. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: First's built to restore powers of fluoridation back to local communities, 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: What is going on with anios and New Zealand, Rugby 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: and kung Aura has come up with a pragmatic approach 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: to dealing with debt owed by tenants. But will it 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: increase homelessness? We will discuss this before the end of 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: the hour. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: The agenda. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, twelfth of February. First an update from the 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Middle East. Jordan's King Abdullah is set to meet with 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: the US President Donald Trump the House after he suggested 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: with holding aid to Jordan and Egypt if they don't 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: cooperate with his plans to take control of Gaza. Meanwhile, 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettanna, who has promised relentless action 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: to return hostages being held in Gaza after her masked them, 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: laid their release until further notice. Here's Trump's reaction to that. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: If all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: twelve o'clock, I think it's an appropriate time. I would 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: say cancel it, and all bets are off and let 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: hell break out. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: France has been hosting a two day artificial intelligence summit 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: in Paris. Dozens of world leaders, top tech bosses, and 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: policymakers gathered to debate AI's impact on security, business, jobs, 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: and much more. India's Prime Minister there Endromodi called for 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: an AI governance rules. 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: No one holds the key to our collective frujar and 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: shared dat the other than whom that sense of responsibility 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: much guider. 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: US Vice President Jady Varnes called for Europe to keep 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: an open mind. 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 5: America wants to partner with all of you, and we 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: want to embark on the AI revolution before us with 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: the spirit of openness and collaboration and. 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: Finally back home a Hawk's Bay. Dad has been helping 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: his son and daughter learn to hitchhike to school after 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: their rural school bus route was cut by the Ministry 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: of Education. Mike Brown lives on a family farm near 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: the Arapawa Noi River, about forty five kilometers north of Napier, 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: and he says it takes about forty five minutes to 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: get into town. The Ministry of Education says the Ministry 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: applies its policy consistently across New Zealand to ensure limited 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: school transport funding is allocated fairly and efficiently. 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: Really addition, with one roof, make your property search simple. 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: News Talk sippy nine past five now. Last night we 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: discovered that New Zealand has slipped to fourth place in 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: the worldwide rankings of the least corrupt countries, with the 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: country achieving its worst place. This is its worst placing 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: ever on the Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index. Yes there 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: is such a thing. The index has been comparing countries 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: annually since nineteen ninety three and for many decades, New 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Zealand place number one. We were first, which I'm sure 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: made us feel good because New Zealand is like a winner. 62 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: But as fourth, really so bad out of one hundred 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: and eighty countries. Top three now is now Denmarket number one, 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Finland number two, Singapore number three. This is of course 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: all about transparency of government, not individual corruption crimes, and 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: actually because of that we should take it seriously and 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: our slow decline is worth taking note of Transparency International 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand Chief Executive Julie Haggy, she said there is concern, 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: or it was noted in the report, there is concern 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: about New Zealand's lack of transparency around lobbying, revolving door 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: between government and lobbyists, use of urgency, issues of party financing, 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: and limitations on the scope of the Official Information Act. 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: And I don't think that's news to New Zealanders at all. 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: We've had a pretty slack response to corruption pressures over 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: the years. There have been some attempt to create a 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: new code of conduct for lobbyists. This will of course 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: be a voluntary code of conduct. So the lobbyists did 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: a good job. There are a little bit of an 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: inadequate attempt to address this. So the drop in rankings 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: brings the issues back to the fore. I don't think 81 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: it's going to create too much of a stir with 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: politicians yet, but you wouldn't want to see that ranking 83 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: drop much further because we kiwis we like things to 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: be straight up? Does the drop in rankings concern you'd 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: love to hear from? You can text on ninety two 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: ninety two it is eleven past five year with early edition. 87 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the day in 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof will make your property search simple. 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: The news talks. 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: That'd be you're with early dedition it's thirteen pars. New 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: Zealand first have introduced a bill to restore powers of 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: floridation back to local communities. Their decision to floridate drinking 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: water currently rests with the Director General of Health, but 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: the bill would allow locals to decide what they want 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: in their water through binding referendums. Fung Ray is the 96 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: only one of fourteen councils not to fluoridate it's water 97 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: since the government's twenty twenty two directive. Mayor Vincent Cocarilla 98 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: joins me, Now, thanks for your time this morning. 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 6: Vincent, good morning, How are this morning very good? 100 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: Thank you? Are you happy to see this bill put 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 2: in the ballot? 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: I think it's a very good step forward. I have 103 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 6: to say that it's great to have a central government 104 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: backing behind local government. 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: Again, why should this decision rest locally? 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, it's one of those things, especially with fluoridation, 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 6: there's a lot of controversy that a lot of people 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 6: with strong opinions from both sides, and what it day 109 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 6: is By putting it back to the people, it actually 110 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 6: gives the people to start the say whether people like 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 6: the decision. At the end of the day, it's still 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 6: of like when you have a binding referee them. It 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 6: makes it very clear that the community have spoken. So 114 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 6: whichever the decision may be, the community has spoken and 115 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 6: the community accept the decision when they are when the 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 6: decision is imposed on them, they are always going to 117 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 6: rebel from it. 118 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: How do you think fan I would vote in a referendum? 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 6: Oh, now that's a very hard arnswer answer on that one. Look, 120 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 6: I have I have heard from both sides of the sense, 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 6: and I have had very passionate people from both sides 122 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 6: of the sense, both in the medical and non medical 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: side of things, and both have very clear views and 124 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 6: opinions about it. 125 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: Are the options that mean that everybody gets what they 126 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: want when it comes to this debate. 127 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: Look, by allowing as I said, by allowing the community 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 6: to have to say, actually makes the decision back onto 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 6: the community, so they actually take ownership of it. That's 130 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 6: what the big thing is, and that's why when you 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 6: impose something onto a community, you will always get people 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 6: resenting the government for it. Whereas if you give them 133 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 6: the decision and give them the power to actually make 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: that call, they generally accept what has been decided. 135 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: But have you got on it? 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 6: May not like it? 137 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 7: Yeah except this. 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly. So, Look, if fluoridation gets put into 139 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: place where you are, have you got an option for 140 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: people that don't want it? If it's not put in place, 141 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: is there another option there for people who do want it? 142 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 6: And that's something that the councilor has to decide when 143 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 6: that time comes. At this present moment, we have we've 144 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: never fluoridated in sang today ever so and this has 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: been through a referendum in two thousand and two, so 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: we've actually been through that process a while ago, and 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: it's probably a good time to redo that referendum. And 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: it's probably a very good smart idea. 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: About was it about sixty five percent sed no in 150 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: that referendum. 151 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct, and it was a lot of good 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: councilors at the time actually were quite surprised by the result. 153 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 6: They thought it'd go the other way. 154 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Have you got in trouble for not doing this once? 155 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 6: The interesting thing is we have broken no laws at 156 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 6: the present moment. And to say the same thing as 157 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 6: many some of the other councils who have been asked 158 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: to thaorroidate haven't actually started thauroidating either. So as of 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: the twenty eighth of March, that's when the mandate actually 160 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 6: has to happen. Until then, we've still broken broken no laws. 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's getting It's getting close, isn't it. How 162 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: can Yeah? How contentious do you think that this bill 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: will be? 164 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 6: Look, I I don't know about central government. I don't 165 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 6: know how they will all or political parties will vote 166 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 6: on it. I can't answer that one either. Whether it's contentious, yes, 167 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 6: I do, and again I do say it's because there 168 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 6: are very passionate people from both sides. 169 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: You're spoken to other councils, are they happy with this 170 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: bill as well? 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: There are a lot of councils who are very, very 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 6: happy And the main reason is because they actually would 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 6: prefer to have the community have a say as well. 174 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: Lean's appreciate your time this morning. Nice to talk to you. 175 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: That was Funday Mayor Vince Cocurio there talking about New 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: Zealand First have introduced a bill to restore the powers 177 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: of fluoridation back to local communities. 178 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Right. 179 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Elliot Smith is up next on the legal battle ahead 180 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: for New Zealand Rugby against Enios. 181 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Where's one roof? 182 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Make your property search simple. 183 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: News Talk ZIB five twenty Now. New Zealand Rugby has 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: entered a legal battle with its major sponsor Anios. They 185 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: say Anios have failed to make the first sponsorship payment 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five and they're trying to exit their 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: six year contract three years. Early ZB Rugby commentator Elliott 188 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Smith is with me now, Good morning Elliott. 189 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,119 Speaker 8: Good morning Francesca. 190 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: So as the spot on the front of the AB 191 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: shirt no longer has coveted as it once. 192 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 8: Was, well, I think there's certainly elements of that in 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 8: terms of just being a tough time for marketing and 194 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 8: sports and getting value out of that dollar. But also 195 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 8: in the US their commercial revenue has been eaten up 196 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 8: in Europe and they are looking for a way to 197 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 8: save cost. Have now got to try and find a 198 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 8: new America's Cup team that they're going to try and fund. 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 8: They've got the Manchester United now as well, and the 200 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 8: squeeze has really come on at Sports, the Sports portfolio 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 8: to try and save some money. So I think they've 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 8: gone Actually, New Zealand, we could probably flick that off 203 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 8: and and save a bit of money there eight to 204 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 8: ten million New Zealand dollars a year we can get 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 8: rid of that. New Zealand Rugby said no, you've got 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 8: a commercial contract with us, and that's where the stalemate 207 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 8: meets at the moment. 208 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: So that eight million, that was eight million per year, 209 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: not in the not for the total of the six. 210 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 8: Years, not for the total of six years. So is 211 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 8: there someone in the facility of eight to ten million 212 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 8: dollars a year that New Zealand Rugby had agreed with 213 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 8: any US here that's substantial? 214 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: Is this really a case though, of them not US? 215 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, have the All Blacks has New Zealand Rugby 216 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: I should say, looked after this partnership, Well. 217 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 8: Well, look, having been around a lot of All Blacks events. 218 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 8: You see the Inenios branding on the all blacks clothing. 219 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 8: You see it a lot of sidelines of games, the 220 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 8: Anios logo there. I've been at training runs around the world, 221 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 8: including London where a lot of the Inios companies are based, 222 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 8: and you've seen a lot of Ineos representatives on the 223 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 8: touch line there and being welcomed in there. So in 224 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 8: terms of trying to get that commercial dollar and showing 225 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 8: the opportunities there and leveraging that, I think New Zealand 226 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 8: Rugby has done plenty to open the door and the 227 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 8: OOS would say they could have always done more. But 228 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 8: seeing a statement from any Os overnight, they're very much 229 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 8: blaming a commercial downturn in Europe and in petrochemical companies 230 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 8: feeling the squeeze in Europe for the decision not to 231 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 8: go not to pay this payment that they were owed 232 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 8: to New Zealand Rugby. They said they went to New 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 8: Zealand Rugby to try and hammer out an agreement. Didn't 234 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 8: come to that from New Zealand Rugby. New Zealand Rugby 235 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 8: weren't interested so very much on a commercial side, it 236 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 8: says in THEOS are blaming the fact they don't have 237 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 8: the money at the moment to try and meet those 238 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 8: payments that they agreed to with New Zealand rupe there. 239 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: How long could it take to secure a new sponsorship contract. 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 8: Well, these things are in play for nearly two years, 241 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 8: is my understanding. When they go out to tend and 242 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 8: the negotiations are hammer out, whether you're get in front 243 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 8: of the jersey, a spot on the shorts, what kind 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 8: of financials are involved, what kind of commercial obligations are 245 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 8: from New Zealand side in terms of your tickets to 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 8: matches or hospitality, player appearances, promotions, everything like that. It 247 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 8: can take close to two years. So if they're not 248 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 8: getting eight million dollars this year from in the OS, 249 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 8: it's hard to see them making up in the short term. 250 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 8: There aren't as we know, there's a big business turn 251 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 8: don't downturn around a lot of the globe. They're not 252 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 8: quelling up to sponsor sports of any shape at the moment, 253 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 8: so it's going to take a lot for New Zealand 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 8: Rugby to try and replace this, especially at short notice. 255 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 8: And you remember as well, their agreement with Ford came 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 8: to an end the end of last year as well, 257 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 8: or earlier this year or at some point this year. 258 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 8: So there's a couple of financial holes and shortfalls that 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 8: New Zealand Rugby's got to meet at a time when 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 8: the pressure is going on the community game. They're looking 261 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 8: for new revenue streams. They've lost two that they are expecting, 262 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 8: certainly one that are expecting in their bank accounts from 263 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 8: January first. 264 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: Elliott Smith, thank you so much for talking us through that. 265 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. It is twenty four pass far. You're with early edition. 266 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: The early edition Full the show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 267 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: by Newstalks at Me. 268 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: You're with early edition. It's twenty six past five. Kien 269 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: Or is taking a step in the right direction. They 270 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: have announced a tough approach to rental debt, but they're 271 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: doing it in a fair way, which hopefully gives people 272 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: who intend to pay their rent but have hit a 273 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: hurdle a chance to get back on track. The debt 274 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: was kind of crazy. Between two thousand and seven and 275 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, the total debt owed to Coying Aura 276 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: by its tenants increased from one million to twenty one million. Now, 277 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: obviously this period included the COVID days and cost of 278 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: living crisis, and it would have been a little heartless 279 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: for the government to kick people out of homes during 280 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: a lockdown or due to a job loss caused by 281 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: an unprecedented event like a pandemic. But twenty one million, 282 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: it is a big number. Kung Aora has worked hard 283 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: to reduce that debt is now down from twenty one 284 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: point six million in January twenty twenty four to sixteen 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: point one million this January. It is a good effort, 286 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: but clearly things have gone out of control and we're 287 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: never going to get on top of the numbers. So 288 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: the Board of coyng Aura has decided to help some 289 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: tenants with significant rent debt get on top of their 290 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: debt faster. They're going to reduce the amount they owe 291 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: down to twelve weeks worth of rent and forgive the 292 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: rest if the tenant has been consistently paying rent and 293 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: making reasonable payments to reduce what they owe. So this 294 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: is going to wipe eight million off the debt number, 295 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: which is a quick way to make the numbers look 296 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: more appealing, isn't it. But will we either going to 297 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: recoup the money from the twenty tenants owing more than 298 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: twelve weeks? No, So why not give people an incentive 299 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: to pay. This is a pragmatic decision, but it raises 300 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: the question, what's stopping tenants just clocking up the debt 301 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: if they know that it will be reduced back to 302 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: twelve weeks. Well, this is a one time offer because 303 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: from now on tenants won't get to the point of 304 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: owing more than twelve weeks rent coying or estates. They 305 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: will be in touch much earlier if rent is missed, 306 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: to have a chat and to work out a payback plan. 307 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: If this doesn't happen, if there is no intent to 308 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: pay off debt, then eviction processes will begin, which could 309 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: happen well before reaching the twelve week mark. So the 310 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: message is very clear here. Sustaining tenancy's framework is coming 311 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: to an end. It is going to be easy to 312 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: evict people, but they'll be closely managed to prevent things 313 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: getting to that point if possible, and I think we'd 314 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: all agree people deserve it opportunity to get back on 315 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: track and the last thing we want to see is 316 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: an unnecessary increase in homelessness. As Associate Housing Minister Tama 317 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Portaka said yesterday, while most kang Or tenants are great 318 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: tenants who respect the properties, good neighbors and pay their 319 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: rent on time. Some need a little more TOTALKU encouragement 320 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: to do the right thing. 321 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be. 322 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: So, does this sound even handed to you or are 323 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: you concerned that this approach may possibly cause more homelessness. 324 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this later in the hour 325 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: with Brooks Stanley, who is with a homeless youth advocacy group. 326 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: Just we're just going to see whether this approach is 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: going to work for everybody. But I'd like to hear 328 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: from you. Do you like the direction that kyang Or 329 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: is going and do you think it's fair handed? And 330 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: obviously we just got to get on with trying to 331 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: get on top of this. I think they've done a 332 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: pretty good job. Here ninety two ninety two is the text. 333 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: News is up here, next here on news Talk, zip. 334 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 335 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: one roof make your property search simple. News Talk said, they. 336 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 9: Hear you, June your look live goody live here you 337 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 9: its Jube. 338 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: Good morning. 339 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: This is any addition on news toork z'd be I'm 340 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: for tis going, I can filling in for Andrew today. 341 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us in the next half hour, 342 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: we head to the UK to get the reaction to 343 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: football or Sam Kerr has been found not guilty of 344 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: causing racially aggravated harassment and as I mentioned before the 345 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: news kan Ora has a new approach to tenants who 346 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: don't pay their rent. I think they've taken a pretty 347 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: even handed approach to make sure that we don't get 348 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: into the pickle that we got into into the previous government. 349 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: But is it approach that will work for all tenants? 350 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Will it create more homelessness for our youth. We're going 351 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 2: to discuss this before the end of the hour, and 352 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: thank you for your feedback on this morning. State housing 353 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: is a privileged to the government. Isn't the landlord the taxpayer? 354 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Is? 355 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: It was always intended to be temporary accommodation for those 356 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: who needed it, not a free, long term luxury lifestyle. 357 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: Thank you Max. Why don't we all stop paying our landlord? 358 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: What a kick in the guts for private renters who 359 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: went through COVID and hardship. More pandering and another one 360 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: here from Gary says hi, as most of the social 361 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: housing tenants are on benefits, I don't see how they 362 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: could not pay rent if it's taken out prior to 363 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: the benefit being paid. Here's the thing, Gary. The point 364 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: that you raise is a ready good one. How did 365 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: any of this get to the point that it did, 366 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: And that is the issue. No one should be owing 367 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars in rent. It should never get to 368 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: that point. And I think this is what King Ara 369 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: is saying, whether you were earning your own money or 370 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: you're on a benefit or a mix of the both 371 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: and things, there is no reason why if you can't 372 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: pay your rent one week that there is not immediate 373 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: communication with coing or and a plan put in place 374 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: to help you out, discussions being had. You work together 375 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: and you work forward. And that's what the government is saying. 376 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: No longering let tenants get to the point where they 377 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: get into strife and they owe more than twelve weeks. 378 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: And somebody textas say regarding Anyos and New Zealand Rugby, 379 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: you've got an international company and a rugby player doing 380 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: politics on stage, they will cancel. I think I can 381 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: with one hundred percent confidence. I don't think that's got 382 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: anything to do with why AS has pulled out. I 383 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: think many other reasons behind that. Look, thanks for your feedback. 384 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: Keep the feedback coming you can text. On ninety two 385 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: ninety two News Talk said be right it is time 386 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: to head around the country and joining me indonedin is 387 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum, morning to you. We have 388 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: a pivotal meeting for the Queenstown Lakes and Central Otago 389 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: districts today, Yes we do. 390 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 10: It's in Alexandra represented us from the Queenstown Lakes Central 391 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 10: Otaga District. San Otago Regional Councils will gather there today 392 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 10: to discuss a potential regional deal they want to propose 393 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 10: to central government. This coalition deal will aim to drive 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 10: economic growth and establish a pipeline of infrastructure to the region. 395 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 10: They say it would reflect a thirty year vision for 396 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 10: the area and a decade long strategic plan. This would 397 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 10: include potentially pitching for a Southern Lakes based hospital and 398 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 10: a mass transit gondola link between Central Queenstown and Frankton. 399 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: And the weather in Dunedin today, Callum, I. 400 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 10: Mostly fine over towards this evening and nineteen thank you 401 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 10: so much. 402 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: And Claire Sherwood is in christ Church in a big 403 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: day head at the christ Church City Council today. 404 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 11: Claire sure as Francesca. Look, counselors are today considering and 405 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 11: adopting our draft annual plan. This is the plan that 406 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 11: will outline what council will deliver over the coming year 407 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 11: and how that will be paid for. Now there is 408 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 11: a proposed eight point six four percent rates increase here 409 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 11: in christ Church for the average household That works out 410 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 11: to be around six dollars per week. Councilor Sam McDonald 411 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 11: is acknowledging community concerns about that eight point six four 412 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 11: percent figure. He says they're looking at what levers can 413 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 11: be pulled to reduce that increase. The mayor has previously 414 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 11: talked about things like reducing levels of service like the 415 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 11: frequency of council services, rather than cutting them all together. 416 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 11: Their draft to annual plan then goes up for public 417 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 11: feedback from late to this month until the end. 418 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Of next Thank you so much, Claire. And the weather today. 419 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 11: Mostly cloudings, some brief afternoon fine spells. Easterly is developing 420 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 11: and the high should be two twenty one. 421 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Lovely. Thank you Claire. Have a good day. And Max 422 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: Toll is with us in Wellington. Good morning, Max, I 423 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: believe we've got an announcement coming today on Wellington's Golden 424 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: Mile upgrades. 425 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning. So the Golden Mile development have been 426 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 12: a few years in the works. The Golden Mile essentially 427 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 12: is the spine of the city streets from Lampton Key 428 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 12: to Courtney Place, and the mayor or when she ran, 429 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 12: ran on a campaign of transforming those streets into carless, 430 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 12: pedestrian friendly, bike and bus friendly a street essentially tomorrow 431 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 12: today an announcement is coming that is expected to be 432 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 12: the final design of this street project and the timeframes 433 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 12: for when construction will begin, when construction will finish, and 434 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 12: when cars will finally be banished from the central city. 435 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 12: It's riled up businesses that fear that their business will 436 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 12: really diminish with cars not being able to park outside 437 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 12: outside their doors drive along. We kind of confirmed yesterday 438 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 12: that work is confirmed stand in April according to the 439 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 12: City Council, and yet a final contract for this work 440 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 12: is still not signed, so that's a little contradictory. We're 441 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 12: going to ask some questions at this media announcement today 442 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 12: that the council is holding. We did speak to a 443 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 12: business owner on Courtney Place yesterday. He fears the worst. 444 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 12: He says it would be a sad day for Wellington 445 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 12: when the Golden Mile is confirmed and impacted businesses have 446 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 12: not been properly consulted. 447 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Max. Have you got a nice day today? 448 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: Were the ones we do? 449 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 9: Yeah? 450 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 12: It should be cloud clearing fine from pretty early in 451 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 12: the morning. Southerly's a high of twenty central. 452 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Max. Never britty man who is 453 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: in the studio now, j weckon the buck. 454 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 13: I've had three coffees this morning, so I'm gone energized, 455 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 13: good to go for the morning. 456 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: When for Auckland's cbd as plans for overnight street packing 457 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: charges are delayed another. 458 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 13: Year, Yes, I know. 459 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: I think people gods are looking upon Oh. 460 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And I know a few people, especially in those apartments, 461 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 13: and they've only got one car park, so you get 462 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 13: those two car households and one of them's got to 463 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 13: park out on the road. 464 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 7: So yeah. 465 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 13: So what we know is at Auckland Transport, the charges 466 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 13: they're going to kick in from March twenty twenty six 467 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 13: cost about one to two dollars an hour, depending on demand. 468 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 13: But it says that this decision follows feedback from all 469 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 13: the businesses, the residents and the workers. So they're going 470 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 13: to wait really until the City rail Link is opening 471 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 13: for twenty twenty six. Viv Beck Heart of the City 472 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 13: Chief Executive. She's happy to go along with the charges 473 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 13: once the project's complete. 474 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Auckland's weather to day please fine another monkey. 475 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 13: Day twenty seven. 476 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 7: Is the high. 477 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 13: We can't complain or can we can we? 478 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: No, we can't. 479 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 13: We have to just go and sleep. 480 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 14: Out on the road. 481 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: So it's just because you spend most of your time 482 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: in here in the sub condition play but after you 483 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: go go and complain to somebody else in the news room. 484 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for being in here. Coming up 485 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: next week and he heads to the UK. Gavin Graves 486 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: with us it is sixteen to. 487 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of 488 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 489 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: And joining me now from the UK is Gevin greg 490 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: Good morning. 491 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 14: Devin, good morning that Hey. 492 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Tell me what's the reaction being to footballer Sam kurb 493 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: being found not guilty of causing racially aggravated harassment? 494 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean Sam Kerr, of course, is the Australian 495 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 14: international women's footballer, a major superstar as well. Thirty one 496 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 14: years old, plays for Chelsea as a striker in the 497 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 14: Women's Football League. She's been found not guilty of that charge, 498 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 14: which could have led to a two year prison centers 499 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 14: the jury clear in relation to an incident back in Twickenham, 500 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 14: which is southwest London, back in January of twenty twenty three, 501 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 14: the thirty one year old had always said in the 502 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 14: court that she was antagonized by officers when she was 503 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 14: taken to a police station following a dispute with a 504 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 14: taxi driver in which the one of she and her 505 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 14: partner one of them was sick in the back a 506 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 14: window was kicked in the tax She driver Drodan to 507 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 14: the police station demanding compensation and to get the cab 508 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 14: cleaned up. And during the discussion with the police officer 509 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 14: about what had happened, she was caught using the words 510 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 14: you're stupid and white. Now that was where really this 511 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 14: whole whole court case home. Was that racially motivated? She 512 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 14: denied it amounted to a racial offense. The jury agreed 513 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 14: with her, but as the prosecutor said, what had happened 514 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 14: if somebody would have said you're stupid and black, because 515 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 14: of course that was what the prosecution was saying, it 516 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 14: was clearly racist. 517 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray thank you very much for the update. Appreciate 518 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: it right. Evocates are warning a tough approach on rent 519 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: debt from the country's biggest landlord will force more people 520 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: onto the streets. King Ora wants to crack down on 521 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: tenants with rent arears, some who owe tens of thousands 522 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: of dollars in months of unpaid rent. Brooks S. Dairley 523 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: joins me now from Monachi Range and Advocacy Group, which 524 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: aims to prevent and end youth homelessness. Thanks for being 525 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: with us, bro Good morning, Good morning. What's your reaction 526 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: to this. 527 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 7: I think that the announcement made yesterday by the minister 528 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 7: is going to increase and make comelessness worse, and we 529 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: can't look at this announcement in isolation of the other 530 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 7: announcements they've made. Instead of investing billions into prisons, they 531 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 7: should be investing this money into preventative solutions like warm, 532 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 7: affordable and universal housing and looking for cope oper multi solutions, 533 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: because we know that those are the solutions that are 534 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 7: working on the ground. 535 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Brook are you worried that this particular approach will affect 536 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: younger tenants. 537 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 7: We're worried that it will impact everybody who is in 538 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 7: a KO house. We're worried about the pipeline from you 539 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 7: homelessness because we know that that then as an indicator 540 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 7: of homelessness itself. We're worried that there are no alternatives 541 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 7: to emergency housing that the government is putting forward, and 542 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 7: we're worried about the lack of strategy for addressing homelessness. 543 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 7: There was a Homelessness plan from twenty twenty until twenty 544 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: twenty three, and at the moment there is nothing in 545 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 7: place to carry on that MAHI or ensure that we 546 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 7: work towards preventing and ending homelessness in ulti oil. 547 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 2: So brokers people are evicted, where will they go? 548 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 7: And that's what our question is to given the announcements. 549 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 7: While previous announcements made about emergency accommodation, we know that 550 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 7: we're in amongst we're in the midst of a housing crisis, 551 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 7: and there's no alternatives being put forward for emergency housing 552 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 7: for addressing the immediate harm of that. But then also 553 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 7: there's no long term strategy either. We know that people 554 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: are ending up on the streets there and there's ending 555 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 7: up in overcrowded housing and we're already seeing an increase 556 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 7: of homelessness with people going back to living in their 557 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: cars Brook. 558 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: Why aren't tenants paying their rent? 559 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 7: I think that's a good question, and I think we 560 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: need to be looking at the wider context. We know 561 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 7: that KO housing is provided to some of our most disadvantaged. 562 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 7: FUNO that the reason why people are in KO housing 563 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 7: is because it's affordable, but that people in their spaces 564 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 7: are often experiencing poverty, They're experiencing high complex needs. There's 565 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 7: a lot of intergenerational issues, and so we need to 566 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 7: look to be addressing those long term and looking for 567 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 7: short term solutions to ensure that that harm is addressed, 568 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 7: those issues are addressed first, are also looking to longer 569 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 7: term solutions to ensure that you know that we are 570 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 7: ensuring the right to housing, that everybody has a warm, safe, 571 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 7: an affordable home in alter. 572 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: So, how do we resolve this because the government can't 573 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: keep sort of paying off tens of thousands of dollars 574 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: in people's rent. 575 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 7: I think that the government is there to serve the 576 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 7: communities and that they shouldn't be looking to run using 577 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 7: them as a business. And I think if we look 578 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 7: at centering the needs of people in the space and 579 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: actually people in our communities, then the solutions will the 580 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 7: solutions are there. We can ensrying the right to housing, 581 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 7: we can have a strategy to ensure that there is 582 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 7: no homelessness altered, or we can implement a duty to 583 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 7: assist to ensure that no government department can turn people 584 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 7: away if they're experiencing homelessness. The government has all the 585 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 7: power and the resources to do that. We saw them 586 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: enact that power during COVID with the previous government, and 587 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 7: we're wondering where their energy is from this government and 588 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 7: confronting the issue of homelessness and even poverty and ulti 589 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 7: or these are huge crises that are happening, and we've 590 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 7: seen a massive increase in homelessness and even poverty with 591 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 7: this government, and the harm that causes in our communities 592 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: is disturbing. It's horrendous, especially given the you know, we've 593 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 7: just had them apologize for the report that's come out 594 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 7: for people that have been abused in state of faith 595 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 7: based care, and so you know, if we have that 596 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 7: apology and no actions to ensure that those things don't 597 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 7: happen again, and some of our Finno who have experienced 598 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 7: have been mistake here in Ko Housing. Yeah, then it's empty. 599 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 7: Those apologies empty. 600 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 601 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Look, Brooke, appreciate your thoughts on this this morning. That 602 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: was Brooke Stanley there from MONARCHI Fingertaki. It is six 603 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: to six. I'd like to hear your thoughts to ninety 604 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: two ninety two News. 605 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: And Views you trust has done. Your day is early 606 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: edition with one roof. Make your property search simple, youth. 607 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: Dogs said, be my costking is with you shortly at 608 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: six am. He's currently just warming up, picking his teeth, 609 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: getting the sleep out of his eyes. Oh no, I said, 610 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: what's feeling out? 611 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 15: I was very interested in what Elliott said to you 612 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 15: earlier on I don't know, I mean he knows what 613 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 15: he's talking about. But the suggestion that any of els 614 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 15: don't have any money. This is a fifty five billion 615 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 15: dollar company who sponsors Mercedes F one and until recently 616 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 15: the America's Cup, that I don't think money's got anything 617 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 15: to do with it, because I mean you're talking about 618 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 15: they say it's forty eight million sober six years, so 619 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 15: that's eight million dollars a year. Eight million dollars to 620 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 15: someone like Enios is literally money down the back of 621 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 15: the sofa. 622 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 2: So I opened. 623 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 15: My suspicion. I hope I'm wrong, but my suspicion is 624 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 15: that the deal will involve a certain series of circumstances 625 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 15: that need to unfold from the sponsor's point of view. 626 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 15: I eat the number of people go to games, watch 627 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 15: market the whole thing, and it hasn't happened because Rugby's 628 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 15: got problems. So if that's the side of the equation, 629 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 15: it's interesting to watch the union take them to court 630 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 15: because that side of the story will come out, presumably 631 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 15: because it's very unusual for a company to just wake 632 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 15: up one morning go no, you know what, No, I 633 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 15: can't be bothered anymore. 634 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 12: Bye Bye. 635 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: More of that's on the Mic Hosking Show Sink It Tomorrow. 636 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 637 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 638 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.