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Speaker 1: The text of rolling in on the old punishment. We'll

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Speaker 1: get back to that. It's eighteen past five. Now listen

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Speaker 1: on petrol for a long time if you want us

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Speaker 1: to find cheap petrol where you needed to go as

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Speaker 1: Goal in Atsa Yamuri. But not anymore. And now there's

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Speaker 1: talk that the old Gull effect in totality might be

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Speaker 1: over and their prices are only about two and a

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Speaker 1: half cents cheaper than the national national average.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Terry Collins is AA's principal policy advisor on this, Hey, Terry,

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Speaker 1: after what has happened? Is is this just a one

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Speaker 1: off thing? Or is Goal genuinely not an outlier anymore?

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Speaker 2: No, Gal, I've done such a good thing that encouraged

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Speaker 2: all the other independence to join them. So now instead

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Speaker 2: of having the Gal effect, we've really got the independence effect.

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Speaker 2: So we've had Wayitomo, MPD and others join them. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand owing companies because of the business model, which is

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Speaker 2: a low cost entry. You only have to have the

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Speaker 2: land or the place to have the service station. You've

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Speaker 2: got electronic pain options now available to you don't need

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Speaker 2: any staff, and you've got the fuel there, so that

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Speaker 2: means you can a buide fuel very cheaply and the

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Speaker 2: margins very small. And it's been such a good business

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Speaker 2: model where all the other independents are joining them.

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Speaker 1: So has Goal put up its prices or is it

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Speaker 1: still holding the line?

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Speaker 2: Now it's still holding the line. That's now just a

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Speaker 2: group of them operating the room. In interesting Gold used

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Speaker 2: to be owned by a company called Ampole, who now

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Speaker 2: bought Z and Z now putting you go another low

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Speaker 2: cost model.

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Speaker 1: So Z is you go from Z?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? And that's and so owned by Ampole, and

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Speaker 2: Ampole had to sell Goal to buy Z because they

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Speaker 2: would have had more than fifty percent of the market share.

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Speaker 2: So it's really interesting how I mean I put it

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Speaker 2: this way. I think when Gold came they took the

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Speaker 2: service out of service station and made itself service. We've

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Speaker 2: still got those type of two distinct business models now

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Speaker 2: self service mpds by Tono Allied, and then you've got

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Speaker 2: and Goal, and then you've got you Go Sorry, and

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Speaker 2: then you've got saw your Mobile BP and all the

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Speaker 2: other ends or competing offers.

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Speaker 1: Way do you fill up terry?

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Speaker 2: I always get the cheapest one on a real events,

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Speaker 2: which I do. I went to a Go and Meta

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Speaker 2: matter a couple of weeks ago that actually had the

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Speaker 2: cheapest fuel, and I got a cup of coffee in

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Speaker 2: the sandwich. That was my perfect trisector. And so I

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Speaker 2: went there and got a bleeder of dining one. I

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Speaker 2: think it was two dollars study seven. But I just

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Speaker 2: looked when you were a look on it. I look

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Speaker 2: at Gasby, we were dunis going to be and go right,

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Speaker 2: that's the cheapest one around. I'll buy some. Unless I

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be cheaper next week. I usually

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Speaker 2: fill up brilliant Terry.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Terry Collins, I principal policy advisor.

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