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Speaker 1: Thirteen away from five news talks. He'd be very Soper,

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Speaker 1: senior political correspondent with us. Very good afternoon, Good afternoon, right,

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Speaker 1: So Adrian Or is off see you later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the chair of the board, Neil Quigley, he'll

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Speaker 2: be holding a news conference at five o'clock, so it'll

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Speaker 2: be interesting to see what he's got to say. But

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Speaker 2: I would imagine it'll be a diplomatic affair that they

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Speaker 2: won't say that Adrian Or was asked to walk, or

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Speaker 2: whether he did it of his own volition. I think

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Speaker 2: we'll just have to keep guessing on that one. But

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt when you remember when he was reappointed

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Speaker 2: to the job by Grant Robertson in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: it was a year out from the election, and in

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Speaker 2: the past twenty seventeen comes to mind, there was a

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Speaker 2: change of governor six months. Well, in fact, they delayed

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Speaker 2: the change for six months because the new government really

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Speaker 2: should be in the position of making decisions itself when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the governm and Grant Robertson, you'd have

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Speaker 2: to say, was his final bird to the the National

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Speaker 2: government because they were totally opposed to it. And when

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Speaker 2: you look at Adrian or you know, the some would

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Speaker 2: say the damage he did to the economy. He used

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Speaker 2: the OCR a bit like a firing squad aimed at

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Speaker 2: the economy, and you know, it sucked so much money

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Speaker 2: out of it. The mortgage mortgage rates went through the roof.

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Speaker 2: They've now come back, and maybe he's thought, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: I leave in a pretty good situation.

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Speaker 1: Where see, I think that's what it is. I reckon

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Speaker 1: he's got a new job. He's been looking for the

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Speaker 1: past year for a new job, and he's been waiting

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Speaker 1: for the right time to get out, and he's just

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Speaker 1: lowered the rates, done a bit of a victory lap,

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Speaker 1: and he's worried, Well, who knows what Trump's going to

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Speaker 1: do to inflation. He's probably thinking, right now is the

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Speaker 1: right time to get out of here?

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Speaker 2: Right right time to go? Yeah, I think you're probably

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 1: Michael Riddell on the program after five. By the way,

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Speaker 1: he's the former economist that reserved. We'll ask him what

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Speaker 1: he thinks now. Peters has said the inter Islander contract

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Speaker 1: fee where he said this on our show last night

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Speaker 1: at ually as well, but won't be three hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars to be less than that.

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Speaker 2: Now, what that says to me is that Winston's been

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Speaker 2: talking to Harndai, who negotiating with South Korea. He saw

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Speaker 2: them last week, So you know, I think you may

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Speaker 2: see that Hyanda will end up with a contract to

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Speaker 2: build these fairies. So that would not negate the break

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Speaker 2: fee because it was worth a lot of money. But

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Speaker 2: it was interesting to me the exchange in the house

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Speaker 2: today because you know, Winston essentially pulled the rug from

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Speaker 2: beneath Nikola Willis when he essentially appointed himself as Minister

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Speaker 2: of Raoul, saying I can come up with a better deal.

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Speaker 2: And like you and I've said on this program, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: we'll never really know the truth of that because nobody's

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Speaker 2: going to disagree with him when a figure comes out.

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Speaker 2: But kil Willis, She was seething when facing questions from

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Speaker 2: Labour's finance spokeswoman Barbara Edmunds over the original Fairy deal

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Speaker 2: nutted out by the Labor government.

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Speaker 3: The biggest dog of an infrastructure project New Zealand has

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Speaker 3: seen in many years that blew out members from seven

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars to four billion dollars in climbing.

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Speaker 4: Does she agree with the Minister for Rail who said

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Speaker 4: the break fee quote costs US way less than three

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Speaker 4: hundred million unquote.

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Speaker 3: I find it as wise to agree with the Minister

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Speaker 3: of Rail.

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Speaker 5: They're on on, Winston.

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Speaker 6: Peters, as the Finanncement say confident that when this is

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Speaker 6: all resolved, the savings to the New Zealand taxpayer, based

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Speaker 6: on Treasury's last prediction, will be in excess of two

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Speaker 6: billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, mister speaker, I'm delighted to hear that the

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Speaker 3: Minister for Rail has these matters in hands.

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Speaker 4: Does she agree with the Minister for Rail that Treasury's

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Speaker 4: prediction this will save two billion dollar? Can she confirm that?

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Speaker 3: I find it's always wise to agree this Minister for.

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Speaker 2: Our Ah, you notice the tension between I think Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis and Winston Peters.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because he's revealing a number he shouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: The yes So if we run the quick sums on that,

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Speaker 1: So four billion dollars is what it was going to

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Speaker 1: cost us for the fairies and climbing and climbing and

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Speaker 1: and the land side infrastructure. So if you're saving two billion,

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Speaker 1: that means we can get our landside infrastructure and our

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Speaker 1: fairies plus the break fee for less than two billion.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know the point that Winston Peter's made, and

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Speaker 2: I've heard him on air today saying it that he

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Speaker 2: said the fairies initially when he was part of the

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Speaker 2: coalition government, were to buy the two fairies were four

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So god, yeah, it is all right, very fantastic. And

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Speaker 1: Richard Prebble, you've got any thoughts on this, We've got

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Speaker 1: him on the show after five point thirty tonight to

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Speaker 1: pick his brain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, look, some would say it's a stunt, certainly

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Speaker 2: in the House today. Not surprisingly, the decision to resign

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Speaker 2: from the tribute all was seen by Willie Jackson from

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Speaker 2: Labor as a stunt.

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Speaker 5: The resignation by Prebble is just another shameful, bad faith

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Speaker 5: political stunt designed to cause racial baiting, the visiveness. The

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Speaker 5: stunt smells as bad as ex school lunches and is

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Speaker 5: a waste of time to undermine this Parliament's important work.

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Speaker 1: Here you go, he said it all the King of

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Speaker 1: stunts himself.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly, Verry.

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