1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: So the Israeli Defense Force is reporting right now that 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: rockets are being filed, missiles are being fired from Iran 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: into Israel being intercepted by the Iron Dome. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: The skies above us are lighting up. We are seeing 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Israeli Iron Dome interceptors and they appear to be shooting 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: down some of these missiles as they streak over the 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: skies of northern Israel. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: James mackenzie is the REUCES Bureau chief for Israel and Palestine. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: He's with US Live this morning. James, Welcome to the show. Hello, 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: tell me what's happening at the moment. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, yes, as you're hearing a missile barrow has been 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: going on, the sirens sounding warning alerts being sent out 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: to people's mobile phones to take cover and go to 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: the shelters. This is, you know, the second attack by Iran, 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: an early one in April, and this is you know, 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: happening in the moment. It's a little difficult to tell 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: exactly what the impact has been. Certainly we can hear booms, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: which are the typical when the when the aerial defense 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: system hits these missiles. You know, we can hear the 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: sirens and you know, we're really just sort of waiting 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: to see how it's all in a playout. 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, as you say, it is, it is early days, 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: has only just happened in the last sort of ten 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes it started. But how big of a 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: deal is it given that that you know, Iran has 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: done this before in April, as you said, most of 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the missiles were intercepted. 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's a very big deal in a sense, almost 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: regardless of whether the you know, of how successful the 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: aerial defense system is, because you know, the first the 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: first time has happened, not no significant damage was or 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: very little significant damage was caused, and you know, they 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: seem to be a sort of tacit agreement to let 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: it slide as well, you know, struck back also in 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: a kind of limited way. But I think if it 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: happens again, then mistakes are definitely raised. We've already seen, 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: you know, really sharp up together essentially the beginning of 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: war in Lebanon, you know, very very heavy is rarely 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: air strikes. This morning, a ground incursion by commandos. He 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: the silent background is now and I think you know 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: this is you know, a very potentially a very dangerous 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: step up from that. You know, We're gonna have to 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: see what what they decided to do. But you know, 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: I think this is definitely a very serious step. 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: James, Where are you right now? 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: I'm in our office in Jerusalem where you can maybe 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: hear the hear the siren. 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you not in a bombshell or are you 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just in your office? 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, we have we have a we have a bombshell, 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: so that. 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, And and can you tell me do you 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: think Israel is feeling I don't know if emboldened is 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: the right word to respond, but after obviously taking out 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: in israela and you know, going after his Billa, do 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: you think that perhaps Israel's response to Iran, you know, 57 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: to these attacks might be stronger, might be different. 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: I think so. I mean it does seem, you know 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: that they were for a long time as well as 60 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: been kind of on the back foot over the you know, 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: the very the very critical you know, the world reaction 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: to you know, the campaign in Gaza with you know, 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: which is caused these these these huge number of casualties 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: can cause so much damage. I think you know that 65 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: that the sort of public move has been very much 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: you know, from the Israeli point of view, the scessful 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: operations that have been having in the assassination of all 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: these essentially decapitation of the Edible movement and the leader 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: a raft of other and you know, I think. 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I think we might be losing James. 71 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: There. 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: That is the voice of James mackenzie. He's the Reuters 73 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: bureau chief for Israel and Palestine, currently sheltering in a 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: bomb shelter inside the Router's office in Jerusalem, talking to 75 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: us there. The sirens you can hear in the background 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: are air sirens from warning of other imminent or current 77 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: strike from Iran. We're hearing from the Israeli Defense Force 78 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: that at least one hundred missiles have been launched just 79 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: in the last ten to fifteen minutes from Iran into Israel. 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks EDB listen live on air 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you 82 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.