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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 2: Right joining the Huddle this afternoon. I'm delighted to have

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Speaker 2: as we do every Monday, Trish Hurson from Sherston willis

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Speaker 2: pr Good evening, and Josie Bigani from The Child Fun.

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Speaker 2: Good evening to you. Hello, great to have you on.

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Speaker 2: So is this good news for the left or is

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Speaker 2: this so far from an election that doesn't even matter? Jocy.

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Speaker 3: It's a long way from election, and Chris Hepkins is

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Speaker 3: right not to start counting his chickens. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: you've got to look at what's actually happening. This isn't

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Speaker 3: really a vote for labor. I'm not even sure it's

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Speaker 3: a vote for the left block in any way. It's

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Speaker 3: a sort of anti government block in my view. And

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Speaker 3: I think what's happening is that people are not feeling

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Speaker 3: better off. We're in a recession. We're just feeling like

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Speaker 3: there's nothing transformation, a ll big that's going to change anything.

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Speaker 3: We're just feeling like nothing is happening, and it feels

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Speaker 3: like drift. And so I think you know, whoever can

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Speaker 3: come up politically, you can come up with something that's

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Speaker 3: transformation or some idea other than you look at Luxeon's

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Speaker 3: idea for growth. A trade deal with UAE isn't going

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Speaker 3: to get it. A bunch of concerts at the at

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Speaker 3: Eden Park and more tourists isn't going to get it right.

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Speaker 3: So where is the thing? And I think the investment

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Speaker 3: idea is great, right, get investors over to come and

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Speaker 3: look at investing in New Zealand. But we're still going

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Speaker 3: to be selling milk powder and raw logs. So what

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Speaker 3: are you going to do about that? And unfortunately a

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Speaker 3: lot of it is R and d Ryan. I know

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Speaker 3: it's a pain to say it, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it needs to happen. I guess

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Speaker 2: the question is how is it going to happen? I mean,

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Speaker 2: and you look at stuff that the Employees and Manufacturers

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Speaker 2: Union talks about Trisha with their faster depreciation on their machinery.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is the kind of stuff that we

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Speaker 2: need to see happening here and hopefully we will in

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Speaker 2: the budget.

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Speaker 4: That's right. And I think that the right track wrong

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Speaker 4: track poll here is critical for the government and that

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Speaker 4: Kiwis are continuing to think we're on the wrong track.

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Speaker 4: Is not great for a government that campaigned on getting

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Speaker 4: New Zealand back on track, and that the tangible stuff

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Speaker 4: for voters is that they are still way behind economically

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Speaker 4: than they were a six or seven years ago. They

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Speaker 4: are still facing very high mortgage rates and over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: just think about this. Voters in Wellington we're told that

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Speaker 4: their house prices have gone down twenty four percent. They

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Speaker 4: are a long way behind. This second year in government

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Speaker 4: is a dangerous year for the government because you can't

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Speaker 4: blame the past lot anymore. You're being judged on your

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Speaker 4: own performance and in my view what is missing from

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Speaker 4: this government. There's a lot of good stuff happening, but

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Speaker 4: to Josie's point, the bold stuff like cutting the corporate

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Speaker 4: tax rate, like potentially saying to New Zealand is compulsory

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Speaker 4: super saving. So we've got a huge nest egg that

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Speaker 4: we can invest in things like being bold and brave

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Speaker 4: and saying to the electorate, look, we can't keep on

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Speaker 4: funding superannuation when you are sixty five. This is kind

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Speaker 4: of government in a structural economic situation where we need

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Speaker 4: those very big things to happen. And if you're inviting

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Speaker 4: foreign investment here, they are looking for something extra if

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Speaker 4: they're going to take their dollars all the way from

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Speaker 4: the US or the UK down to New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: And I tell you what, if Luxon can't deliver something

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Speaker 3: this year, and you're right, this so called year of growth,

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Speaker 3: which at the moment looks like the year of organograms.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've done a restructure of the science and research.

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Speaker 3: That's where your R and D is the science and

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Speaker 3: innovation and the stuff that's going to make the weird

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Speaker 3: stuff that makes us money, you know, the funny boat

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Speaker 3: widgets and the security stuff and the you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: that's the stuff that makes us money. That and doing

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Speaker 3: something more with milk powder than just milkpowder. If Luxeon

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Speaker 3: can't deliver something other than an organogram by the end

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Speaker 3: of next year, will be He'll be gone by Christmas

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Speaker 3: and they will replace him. Because I think the National

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Speaker 3: just they're starting to get really frustrated with this.

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Speaker 2: It's just ref that I think they would be foolish

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Speaker 3: He better do something in the budget.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to do something in the budget. But

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Speaker 2: I think if you replace Chris Luxan with Nikola willis

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Speaker 2: you're still on a hiding to nothing. It's the economy

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Speaker 2: people are feeling it. The thing is when they come

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Speaker 2: to vote next year, they aren't going to go I

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Speaker 2: know what will save the day Chris Hopkins and labor.

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Speaker 4: No, they're not. What they're going to do is they're

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Speaker 4: going to say, do I feel better off? That's why

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Speaker 4: the economy is important. That's what we've seen from elections

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Speaker 4: all around the world. And I also think with this government,

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Speaker 4: so they do need to do some big stuff this year,

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Speaker 4: or at least signal it, because three years go so

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Speaker 4: making some decisions. But the other interesting thing that they

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Speaker 4: is there is still not a feeling that there is

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Things, and just saying growth, growth, growth, doesn't mean there's glad.

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Speaker 3: They have to come up with more than oh no,

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Speaker 3: we don't want investors buying New Zealand it's like no, no,

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Speaker 3: we want investment.

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Speaker 2: We want investment, all right. Joseph Begany and Trisharson on

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Speaker 2: the Huddle tonight, the Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevator Marketing of your Home twelve.

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Speaker 2: Away from six News Talks. There'll be loads of your

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Speaker 2: texts coming in and I'll get to some of them

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Speaker 2: later on. Right now, Tris Shurson, Shuson, Willis p R.

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Speaker 2: Joseph BEGANI Child fund with me on the huddle. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: So Matthew Howton in the Herald this afternoon said Mark Brown,

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has gone to China tossigned some kind

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Speaker 2: of deal. We don't know what it is. Therefore we

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Speaker 2: should invade the Cooks. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well it's great, isn't it. Houghton's always the provocateur and

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Speaker 4: it's it's very Trumpian. But the difference here between you know,

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Speaker 4: Trump wants to invade Greenland. New Zealand actually has a

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Speaker 4: col institutional deal with the Cook Islands. They are part

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Speaker 4: up call here for our government is that actually this

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Speaker 4: is all part of the traditional power base in the

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Speaker 4: Pacific slipping away. It's a it's a sign of what

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna sort of match Houghton's provocation here. I

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Speaker 1: No, well, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not invading anyone, although there have been times today

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Speaker 4: where I've wanted to launch various invasions, but on various matters.

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Speaker 4: But I actually think that the Cook that New Zealand

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Speaker 4: I think that the Chinese will roll in and they

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Speaker 4: will offer any funding your like totally.

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Speaker 2: And if we if somebody takes an earlier, why don't

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Speaker 2: we go trump on them and take their money away. Well,

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Speaker 2: China will roll in.

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Speaker 3: So first thing we've got to realize is that. And

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Speaker 3: you know, look, we work in the Pacific contil Frond,

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Speaker 3: a lot of aid charities, most a charities in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand do. The Pacific is not our backyard, it's not

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Speaker 3: our property. Yes, we have a constitutional arrangement with them,

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Speaker 3: a bit like Denmark has with Greenland. But they are

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Speaker 3: an independent country and if we could get a better

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Speaker 3: deal with China, we would take it right Mark Brown,

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister who I've met, and he said after COVID,

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Speaker 3: business as usual for aid. The Pacific does not want

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Speaker 3: to be dependent on AID for the rest of its existence.

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Speaker 3: It wants to find ways to grow its way out

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Speaker 2: So we've got to be a little bit or well,

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Speaker 2: let's help.

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Speaker 3: Them, help them manage China, because it's problem. It is

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Speaker 3: a problem. But don't tell them who they can and

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Speaker 3: can't take them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't wag your finger in their face, can you.

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Speaker 2: It's no one likes that's bad. Right, Let's go to

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Speaker 2: real estate agents. Put your hand up if you like them.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you can't see any hands, but there are no

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Speaker 4: I don't mind real estate agent.

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Speaker 3: I do not. I hate auctions and I hate tenders.

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Speaker 3: Tell me how much the house you want for the house,

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Speaker 3: and I'll workout if I can pay for it. Do

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Speaker 3: not make me guess I hate it.

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Speaker 2: But it's almost just the manifestation of the worst part

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Speaker 2: of us, isn't it, which is that when you're selling something,

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Speaker 2: you want the highest possible price, and then when you're

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Speaker 2: buying something, you want the lowest possible.

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Speaker 4: Price, and it's a terrible it's a terrible emotional pressure cocker.

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Speaker 4: That is a psychological device of an auction. I have

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Speaker 4: never been to one, but my husband when he bought

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Speaker 4: our family home. I was working. He took our three

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Speaker 4: year old son. This is many years ago, and unfortunately

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Speaker 4: putting up his hand and the auctioneer kept saying, I'm sorry, Sarah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're good for it. And it really

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Speaker 2: They're awful. Yeah, No, horrible things, horrible things. Anyway, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about that because there's an action that kind

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Speaker 2: of went a bit of rye in Green Height and Auckland,

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Speaker 2: but honestly, that's not worth getting into. It's just gone

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Speaker 2: nine minutes away from six.

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Speaker 4: You're bored over it.

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Speaker 2: Tricius and Chius and Vellspia and Joseph Bagani child Fun

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for being on the huddle this evening.

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Speaker 2: Lots more to come here on news talks have been

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