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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b D.

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Speaker 2: Gamble is a man of many hats. He is a

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Speaker 2: Taskmaster champion in the UK. He is a podcast co host.

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Speaker 2: He's an author, a television host, a stand up comedian,

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Speaker 2: and most of all, he is an absolute food maniac.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe not a maniac, a food fanatic at the

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Speaker 2: very least. He's bringing a feast of comedy to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand with his new show Hot Diggity Dog, and ahead

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Speaker 2: of his trip, he'd Gamble is with us this morning, Calda.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: How are you. I'm very well, thank you, very excited

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Speaker 2: that you're bringing Hot Diggity Dog to New Zealand. Just

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Speaker 2: just give us the sort of the back of the

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Speaker 2: envelope explanation, tell us about Hot Diggity Dog.

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Speaker 3: Hot Diggity Dog is a very funny show and you

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Speaker 3: should all buy tickets. Whenever I'm asked what the show

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Speaker 3: is about, I'd normally say it's a collection of things

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Speaker 3: that have happened to me since the last time I

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Speaker 3: did a show. There's a long bit about my disastrous

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Speaker 3: honeymoon to Las Vegas, there's a long bit about me

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Speaker 3: buying a cat with my wife, and it's a lot

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Speaker 3: more exciting than my description of it makes it sound.

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Speaker 3: I'll promise you'll be on the edge of your seat,

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Speaker 3: even though it sounds incredibly tedious of middle class.

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Speaker 2: Is Las Vegas a romantic destination.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's one of

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Speaker 3: the grossest places I've ever been in my life. We

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Speaker 3: just thought it would be a fun, sort of mad

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Speaker 3: thing to do as a honeymoon. And I would now

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Speaker 3: disagree with my past self. A disgusting place.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I ken and I'll be all of those

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Speaker 2: things can not be fun and mad and disgusting and

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Speaker 2: also fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes it can be, I would say not if you

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Speaker 3: have my personality Necessarily, I don't like gambling. I don't

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Speaker 3: like necessarily staying up past midnight. It was a terrible choice.

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Speaker 3: We did have a lot of fun, and let me

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Speaker 3: tell you, I've got a twenty five minute bit of

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Speaker 3: stand up comedy out of it, so it must.

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Speaker 2: Have been worth Okay, that's good. Just tell us what

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Speaker 2: was the single grossest thing you saw you observed in

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Speaker 2: the single most repellent observation you made in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean as soon as soon as you arrive. Really,

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Speaker 3: I mean we saw it's going to make me sound

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Speaker 3: like a real prouve.

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Speaker 2: Is it the people? Is it the people gambling at

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Speaker 2: the airport? Because I always found that really alarming.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's obviously insane because you know, why would you

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Speaker 3: gamble at the airport when you could just get in

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Speaker 3: a cab and do it in a bigger place with

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Speaker 3: more people doing it? Hugely alarming I found we did.

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Speaker 3: We did do some fun stuff. We went to a

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Speaker 3: drag brunch that was a lot of fun, but then

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Speaker 3: we got essentially beaten up at a time massage parlor.

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Speaker 3: It was, you know, there was there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least, you know that with Vegas

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Speaker 2: you're always going to get stories, Youre always gonna eat

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Speaker 2: conteent time in From from a comedian's perspective, am I

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Speaker 2: right in thinking that hot diggity dog got you in

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Speaker 2: trouble with the advertising people in the UK because apparently

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Speaker 2: you were advertising junk food.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so the poster is me massively eating a hot dog.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, that's where the title of the show

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Speaker 3: came from, because I didn't know what I was going

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Speaker 3: idea for the poster, and we worked backwards, and then

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Speaker 3: we tried to put up posters on the Tube for

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Speaker 3: my London shows and they bounced it back and said,

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Speaker 3: we can't put this up because it's advertising junk food.

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Speaker 3: But I look like an absolute peg while I'm eating it.

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Speaker 3: If anything, it was putting people off junk food. So

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Speaker 3: rather than not advertise it on the Tube, we photoshopped

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Speaker 3: the poster and changed the hot dog to a cucumber

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Speaker 3: and they put it up. So it's a bizarre poster.

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Speaker 3: It says hot diggity dog and there's a picture of

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Speaker 3: me eating a cucumber. But they didn't seem to mind

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's going to be a real streisand

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Speaker 2: effect with that kind of thing, you know, like by

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Speaker 2: doing that, the victually drawn far more attention to your show. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sugg think we weren't have had a lot

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Speaker 3: Well, as soon as that happened, Jack, of course, my

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Speaker 3: were that not to have happened. I suddenly, I suddenly

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Speaker 3: turned into a newspiece, which is, to be honest, the

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Speaker 2: Will you? Were you asked to pass judgment as to

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Speaker 3: Of course I was, and I would not be drawn

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Speaker 3: because I don't really have an opinion on that, although

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Speaker 3: I think broadly my opinion is, yeah, probably advertised junk

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Speaker 3: I wasn't going to just necessarily say that it was

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Speaker 3: much better to be a pariah and one of these

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Speaker 3: comedians who says, you can't say anything anymore that they

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Speaker 3: seem to sell tickets, So why can't I be that

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Speaker 2: Yet? Yeah, fure enough to I feel like it goes

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Speaker 2: without saying that most of us have been thinking about

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Speaker 2: you it's kind of it's a it's another it's in

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Speaker 2: another strainers for you. Maybe I don't know that kind

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Speaker 2: all these ways in which kind of food is this

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Speaker 2: kind of little patina in your life. And you know,

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Speaker 2: hot theyggny dog in your cucumber hot dog experience on

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think about food probably I'd say

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Speaker 3: and what I'm going to cook, and you know, coming

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Speaker 3: I've written a food book. There's that people. People seem

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Speaker 2: Going back to Vegas, then, did you do one of

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Speaker 2: those horrible all you can eat things? I know you're

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Speaker 3: I presume, yes exactly. I mean the whole trip to

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Speaker 3: But I've become as a proper foodie and also Type

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Speaker 3: need to give. We did do a buffet. We did

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Speaker 2: Was it a pleasurable experience? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Not by the end, I'd say I'd say maybe the

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Speaker 3: you're very much doing it out of a sense of duty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, It's that classic thing is that you

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Speaker 3: But that is no one's dream drink that should be that.

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Speaker 2: If you're drinking a strawberry protein shake. Call me off fashion,

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Speaker 2: but I just like I like food and drink to

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Speaker 3: Yes, it wasn't It wasn't a great choice, But he's

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Speaker 3: five years later, and I think people still shout him.

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Speaker 2: And radio interviews across the world, people are still criticizing

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Speaker 2: him for that call. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I once

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Speaker 2: And one that I always asked was, if you could

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Speaker 2: so it's not just one dish, but one cuisine every day,

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Speaker 3: Look, we have we have some wonderful foods and wonderful

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, finally, then how do you personally find it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was so excited to have you here.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, fantastic. You're making your way to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: All the very best with Hot Diggity Dog and we

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Speaker 2: will see your son.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Jack, That is I gamble. All the details for

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