1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty exceptional marketing 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: for every property. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: On the huddle with me this evening we have Trishurson, Shirson, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Willis pr and Joseph Gani Child Fund CEO. Hello you too, Hello, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Hello Trisha. It's time to buy a couple of new planes, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: isn't it? 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: It absolutely is. I was thinking today, you know, how 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: much how much worse is it that not only do 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: you not arrive on time, but what arrives before you 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: is a headline that says you've broken down on the 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: side of the road. It's pretty ridiculous. I think you're 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: also remembering that the role of these planes isn't just 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: getting the Prime Minister and delegations around the place. It's 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: also troop movements. So my question also is if these 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: planes are so unreliable, you know what happens if we 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: need to urgently send troops overseas and the old Boeing, 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: you know, once again it can't fly at the right 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: altitude and at the right speed. It is it is or. 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Getting somebody back from Antarctica who needs to be retrieved. 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: With the Boeing, it's only the Boeing's not flying and 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: as a medical emergency, I wouldn't want to be taking 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: a punt with that. Josie, what do you think? 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been on these trips before, as 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: many of us have, and the real value of them. 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: I mean the Prime Minister is always the kind of 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: pr front person and you know, doing all the handshaking, 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: but really the work is the people who's with the 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 4: Prime Minister, who's meeting with business delegations and making networks 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: and working out how to sell Kiwi fruit to China 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: or you know, aerospace to Japan. You know you come 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: and use our aerospace company in christ Church or whatever. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: That's where the value is to New Zealand. So yeah, 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: this is an absolute disaster really, but I've actually got 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: a better solution to this because I mean the problem 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: is it's really hard politically to spend you know, millions 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: of dollars on planes, and then it costs money to 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: fly commercially, so that's also an expense. I mean, as 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: you always going to spend money, but I reckon they 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: could do a deal with their New Zealand you know, 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: charter a commercial plane that Air New Zealand can keep 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: flying because you only use these planes for delegations and 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: even troop movements. Trush, You're right, you don't use them 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: that often, and then you can have the right to 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: sort of gut the plane and make it accessible for 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 4: troops or put the chairs back in and make it 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: good for a promise's delegation. Do you just charter an 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 4: Air New Zealand plane and it can fly in between 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: all the events? 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's yeah, if it was. I mean I 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: suspect it's going to be logistically hard, but if they 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: can make it work, it's totally viable. But here's the thing, Triush, Right, 52 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: So apparently the reason the government will not do this 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: is because there will be this massive resistance and blowback 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: from the public. But every single person who's been on 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: the show today it's been fine about it. So is 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: there really going to be that much hatred? 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think there is if you put 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: this in the context of what these planes are needed for. 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: Good grief, the last government wasted eighty million dollars without 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: even you know, breaking a sweat most days. So I 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: think it's fine if the government just to stand up 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: and say, hey, look, this is this is an absolute nonsense, 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: We're going to spend the money. To your point, it's 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: probably at least a couple of years away until we 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: can get these planes, and so that's an issue in itself. 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: But you know, the other thing is for New Zealanders, 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: this doesn't feel good. It feels really crappy and embarrassing. 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: It's such a reminder of how poor we are well, 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: and that is exactly what someone you know, at least one, 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: if not several people said to me today. It just 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: is it's kind of the metaphor for a country at 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: the moment that feels like everything's a bit shit, to 73 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: be honest, everything and. 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: Also just everything's broken, right. It just feels like we 75 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: can't even get on a plane with the Prime Minister 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: and arrive with a delegation to a country. We're just 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: like stranded in the middle of Psific and you know, 78 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: so everything's broken. You're right, it's the worst metaphor. Weird 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: that the Prime Minister didn't funt the delegation. I thought 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: that was a missed opportunity because right now, you know, 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: you said. 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: Was hurry, Josie, get on the next flight. 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: But don't you just don't you just go in and 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: say guys, this is what's happening. Blah blah blah. I mean, 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: if Greg and the board chair of Air New Zealand, 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: you know, Dame Lady Dean, there's getting if they can 87 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: sit in row sixty five and look at the publicity, 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's probably the best publicity in New 89 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: Zealand's had all years. The CEO and the chair sitting 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: in row sixty five. Good on them. So I think 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: the PM just should have made the time, one way 92 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: or another to just say, guys, this is what's happening. 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: We'll get you there, and it just would have looked 94 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: a bit more leadership. 95 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, all right, we'll take a break with 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: these two. Come back and just to take bag of 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: the HERDLD Trisharson and Joseph Agani, Josie, do you love 98 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: the idea of the granny flat? 99 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: I love the idea of the granny flat. I think 100 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: this is an easy, when low hanging fruit for the government. 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: Good on them. And look, I mean, who's going to 102 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: disagree with it. It's one house, so it's not like 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: you're going to have developers suddenly going and building your 104 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: inverted commas sixty granny flats so it makes sense. And 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 4: I know that everybody worries about intensification anyway, but really, 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean, this is not intensification. This is this is 107 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: something that just is going to be easy for families. 108 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: And actually suddenly enough this was I think this is 109 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: a New Zealand first policy in the coalition deal with Nationals, 110 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: so it plays to New Zealand first space. You know, 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: it's the grannies, but also this is something that you 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: know for Mardi families too who maybe have family living 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: in the garage, they can now go, you know, put 114 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: a put a block up and build something which is 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: a little bit better. And the license builders are really 116 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: good right their license to know where you put the fire, 117 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: you know, all the alarms, where you put, what you 118 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 4: do with the bathroom, what you do with the plumbing. 119 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: So it's not going to be you know, your hokey 120 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: typical key we do it yourself units. It's going to 121 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: be something that's pretty good. So good on them. 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Do you think this is going to have like a 123 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: huge peel or is this just a little thing that 124 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: few people are interested in? 125 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: This is fantastic. I think it's a really great idea 126 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: and will probably appeal to a lot of people. You know, 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: Chris Bishop mentioned today that it costs six and a 128 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: half thousand dollars just in the standard building and resource 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: consent fees to build something like this, and that is 130 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: one of the biggest challenges at the moment. It's not 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: the cost of the build, it's the cost of what 132 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 3: you are having to pay counsels just in red data. 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: No no, no, this is before you even get a 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: stick in the ground. So that would just be the 135 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: consenting fee as well. That wouldn't be the lawyer's fees 136 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: and everything else. So getting rid of that I think 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: is excellent overall. If you look at the cost of 138 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: a house, government fees and charges are about five point 139 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: three percent of the current cost, so need to look 140 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: at that. But if you think about this granny flat idea, 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: think about a family or a farno who has an 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: elderly mum or dad who potentially needs to go into 143 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: what is exceptionally expensive care these days. They can live 144 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: on site and the farno can save that money equally 145 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: for mums and dads who are working and they've got 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: grandparents who are happy to come and live and that happens. 147 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: You know, our westernized way of living in New Zealand 148 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: isn't good at this, but in a lot of societies 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: that's a really useful way that grandparents help out with. 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: The family, everybody's mental health. 151 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: It's good for everyone's mental health. 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: What's really interesting about this, Trish, I think it's it's 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: a demonstration of how Marty politics is fracturing, which is 154 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: why I mentioned, you know, Farno and big families living, 155 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: say in houses in South Auckland, that you can actually 156 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: I think I think what Winston Peters is trying to 157 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: do is that you could actually deliver something practical, like hey, 158 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to help you. We're going to help you 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: build a little unit, rather than have family in the 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: garage or something. And I think this is a difference 161 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: between the party Marty, where you've got New Zealand first, 162 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: going right, we're going to actually deliver stuff that you 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: guys can have your intersectionality culture wars over here. So 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 4: I wonder if that's partly it as well. 165 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair point. Hey, very quickly, do you love, 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: Trish the idea of net safe scambuster? 167 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's hilarious and I love 168 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: the fact that nets Safe are there watching these conversations. 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: You can watch it as well. 170 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wish they had an AI bot 171 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: that dealt with the prank callers because I have had 172 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: I think about five calls a day recently from Australia 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: and it's like whack a mole having to block numbers. 174 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: So I think a good on Netsafe. I love it. 175 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: I love it too. What do you reckon, Josie? 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: I love it. My husband's been doing this by herself 177 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: for ages. So they a phoner and he replies saying 178 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: something like, Polaris, your call has being recorded. Please enter 179 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: the code for drone activation. Now. Ali says something like, 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: oh thank god you've called this. Blood all over the floor. 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: And that keeps them on the phone. That's so funny. Hey, 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much. Guys really appreciate it. Trish Hurs 183 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: and Sharson willispiare. 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplas, see Allen Drive. Listen live 185 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: to News Talk Set B from four pm weekdays, or 186 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.