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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders, Welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show, Podcast number two twenty five for the twentieth

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Speaker 2: of October, in the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I already say that, No, it's twenty twenty. It's two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five. Is that the number of podcasts

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Speaker 2: in the year is twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yep, great great show today. Covered up a lot of topics.

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Speaker 4: Actually heated, heated, yeah, really heated on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Got really heated about sunshine.

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Speaker 4: It did.

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Speaker 2: It's got very warm the Sunshine tet that's absolutely and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then a great breakfast to end. So I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a very good show today. I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: So I hope hopefully you enjoy it and podcast form people.

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Speaker 4: You'll love it, no doubt about it. And just quickly

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Speaker 4: listen out for Matt's very technical, very very down to

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Speaker 4: a fine art breakfast. It's a beautiful thing. You've got

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Speaker 4: to hear it, and it sounds delicious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guarantee my breakfast will cure whatever ails you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to give it a try.

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Speaker 2: I mean, roll up, roll up. It's the Alixa for life.

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Speaker 4: You need a couple of hours up your sleep, but

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Speaker 4: it sounds like it's worth it. Download, subscribe and give

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Speaker 2: And give a taste the kei we all right, you're

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Speaker 2: seeing busy will let you listen to the pod.

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Speaker 5: Love you the big stories, the leak issues, the big

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Speaker 5: trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

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Speaker 4: Be very good afternoons. Yeah, welcome into Monday afternoon. It's

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Speaker 4: a good day. Hope you're doing well. We're heavy, you're listening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Amen for those of you who that are just

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Speaker 2: to joining us, because of course, in some parts of

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Speaker 2: the country we go from twelve and some parts of

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Speaker 2: the country we go for one. On Matt Entile Afternoons.

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Speaker 2: Last hour, I was struggling to be able to read

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Speaker 2: my bits of paper because I'd lost my glasses and

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Speaker 2: had to do the show using my prescription sunglasses. It

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Speaker 2: was tough, it was it was real good. It was

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Speaker 2: very dark, thank you. Well. I kind of looked like

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Speaker 2: Roy Orbison, but I couldn't really read, and so the

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Speaker 4: They honestly have. Yeah, when I went down to the

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Speaker 4: what's going on? You're about the six per person to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all eight hundred and fifty ns in me employees

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Speaker 2: a herb garden. Yes, I found them in the herb

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Speaker 2: garden of the Scratch cafe across the road. So so

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Speaker 2: it feels so good. Sometimes it's worth something annoying happening

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Speaker 2: you can appreciate your life. So it was so difficult

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Speaker 2: it's just I feel like I feel like I've won

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just need to give yourself a disadvantage in

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're like a new man.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, you're sitting here and thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, all right, but we can put that behind us,

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Speaker 2: and just before we go on with the show, I

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Speaker 2: just want to I have to. I'm a huge baseball fan,

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Speaker 2: the weekend was so monumental it cannot be It cannot

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Speaker 2: go unmentioned. Shohatani played the single greatest game of baseball

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Speaker 2: the show how Tani rule that they've had to bring in.

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Speaker 2: He did something so phenomenal in Game four of the

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Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, there are stars, there are for stars,

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Speaker 7: and then there's this supernatural phenomenon that is show. Hey Otani,

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Speaker 7: the Dodger had the single greatest game ever last night.

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Speaker 7: Ten strikeouts, three homers, and a place in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Game four of the LCS absolutely final. One of its

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Speaker 2: We've seen an alien land. That's why how all the

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Speaker 2: the first person ever to strike out three in the

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Speaker 2: So only twelve people have done one side of that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what an absolute freak. And I like his confidence.

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Speaker 4: four games then we're at We're right, We've got it.

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Speaker 2: He is absolutely dialed in. But I thoroughly recommend, whether

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Speaker 2: the way the commentators react to it. It's I'm not

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Speaker 4: He's not human. He's not human anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just needed to get that off my chest because

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Speaker 4: People, Hey, we love passion. Right after three o'clock, this

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Speaker 4: is going to be a good discussion. Breakfast. How important

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Speaker 4: it goes further. Every extra hour you delay a breakfast

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's the perfect breakfast? It looks like breakfast

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Speaker 2: I think I've solved it and I'll share that with

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to that. Then after two a clock. Doctor

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Speaker 4: Bronwyn mcno she's the lead author author of a new

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Speaker 4: Public Health Communications Center report into skin cancer. As we know,

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Speaker 4: around one hundred thousand New Zealander is a diagnosed with

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Speaker 4: diagnosed rather with skin cancer every year and around five

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Speaker 4: hundred die annually. But that calling for big policy changes.

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Speaker 2: Well, how do we do the balance because we obviously

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Speaker 2: the dark with the curtains ship. Yes, so we need

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Speaker 4: You got hardcore? Yeap, yep, bring it on. It's good

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Speaker 4: let's have a chat about this megastrike. This Thursday, New

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Speaker 4: Zealand phases one of the largest public sector strikes in

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Speaker 4: They say they've had enough of burnout, they're underfunded, they're

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Speaker 4: In particular Judith Collins, she's written an open letter and

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Speaker 8: The planned strike is politically motivated, pure and simple, and

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Speaker 8: represent the views of many of their members. Why house

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Speaker 8: would two of the teacher unions have positions on Palestine?

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Speaker 8: And why would one of them have Palestine as a

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Speaker 8: number one item on their agenda for a proposed meeting

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Speaker 8: with the Education Minister. Palestine, not terms and conditions, not

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Speaker 8: student achievement, not the new curriculum. No Palestine sounds like

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Speaker 8: politics to me and to the thousands of New Zealanders

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Speaker 8: I want to acknowledge the pain and fear some of

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Speaker 8: know that we value nurses, doctors, and other health workers

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Speaker 8: teach children and run schools. We value all public sect employees,

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Speaker 8: but the government also has responsibility to manage the country's

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Speaker 8: finances very carefully, especially when money is tight. We've made

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Speaker 8: numerous offers to key unions and in some cases these

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Speaker 8: Sounds like politics to me, and finally to the unions,

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Speaker 8: please put a side disruption and return to dialogue for

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Speaker 8: everyone's sake.

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Speaker 4: So that is Judith Collins and a little bit of

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Speaker 4: our open letter that she's written to the public of

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Speaker 4: New Zealand now just on the Palestine question, because there

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Speaker 4: was a few texts coming up saying if that is true,

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Speaker 4: it's incredible odd and it has been confirmed by the

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Speaker 4: association president Chris Abbercombie. He told Francesca Runkin on her

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Speaker 4: show yesterday. It was on the agenda along with NCAA changes,

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Speaker 4: AI marketing and curriculum changes.

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Speaker 2: Now, our membership passed the paper at annual conference last

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Speaker 2: year called Pieces Union Business and we wanted to raise

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Speaker 2: our concerns around the destruction of the education system in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: Right, So that is confirmed that Palestine was on the

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Speaker 2: That is insane? Am I going crazy? How has that

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Speaker 2: Well, whatever you think about the demands of the union

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Speaker 4: it is incredibly odd that they put Palestine in that list.

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Speaker 2: This text says Cura Kora. I'm in the Nzeire Primary

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Speaker 2: We can't strike to have teacher aids in each classroom.

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Speaker 2: The NZEI need to stop building short sighted, being short sighted.

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Speaker 4: What's your thoughts about the MEIGA strike and specifically the

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Speaker 4: Actually, nineteen ninety two is the text number. Shocking, shocking.

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Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: It'd be afternoon. It's twenty past one. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: Look, and just before we go on to that, I

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Speaker 4: It's got to be a big final.

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Speaker 2: But the show hay a tourney thing has not been

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Your thoughts on the strikes?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, but they're not going to get people

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Speaker 9: it's kind of like, you know, my son doesn't just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to be careful to get their balance

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Speaker 2: The Texas says, this government so out of touch. You

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. That text keep those coming through

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Speaker 4: It is twenty four past one. Back in the mole.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Matton Tyler.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the make asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: To psychological effect of anything with the three in it.

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Speaker 2: What's your assessment of that? Do we we're already in

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Speaker 10: I think people already know that the cost of living

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven past one. We're talking about this so called

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Speaker 2: You two and your station is so out of touch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. A strike should be the last option,

437
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Speaker 4: and it often is because it is incredibly disruptive, and

438
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Speaker 4: it's going to be disruptive on Thursday, and if there's

439
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Speaker 4: any element of that part of the agenda talking about Palestine,

440
00:20:32,573 --> 00:20:34,773
Speaker 4: that there's no way you're going to change it. That

441
00:20:35,013 --> 00:20:37,693
Speaker 4: caused the strike to go ahead or stop the unions

442
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Speaker 4: from getting back to the bargaining table. That's unfair, That

443
00:20:40,493 --> 00:20:43,133
Speaker 4: is unfair to teachers, that is unfair of parents, and

444
00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:45,893
Speaker 4: that is unfair to the kids. But can you hear

445
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Speaker 4: your thoughts? Is bang on hop ass one headlines with

446
00:20:48,813 --> 00:20:50,973
Speaker 4: railing coming up, then taking more of your course.

447
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Speaker 11: Youse talks, that'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

448
00:20:56,813 --> 00:21:01,053
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. Labors unveiled its first policy,

449
00:21:01,253 --> 00:21:04,813
Speaker 11: the Future Fund, modeled off the Super Fund but investing

450
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Speaker 11: solely in keyw projects. Leader Chris Sipkin says it will

451
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Speaker 11: ensure or kiwis have a future in the country and

452
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Speaker 11: won't leave for better prospects offshore. Inflation spiked to three

453
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Speaker 11: percent in the year to September, but a commentator says

454
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Speaker 11: inflations unlikely to rise further. A sleew of wind and

455
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Speaker 11: rain warnings cover southern and central parts of the country.

456
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Speaker 11: About one thousand customers of lost par in Dunedin and

457
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Speaker 11: mosgew and a tree's blocking State Highway eighty eight on

458
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Speaker 11: Anzac Avenue between Frederick and Harrow Streets, and a truck

459
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Speaker 11: is still blocking State Highway eight south of tekapour A.

460
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Speaker 11: A need and man with a breath alcohol level almost

461
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Speaker 11: double the limit has been charged after allegedly falling asleep

462
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Speaker 11: in his stationery running car with his foot firmly planted

463
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Speaker 11: on the accelerator. Former Prime Minister Jimbolgia will be farewelled

464
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Speaker 11: on Thursday morning with a local funeral service at our

465
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Speaker 11: Lady of Carpet Catholic Church. Why an NCEEA overhaul must

466
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Speaker 11: confront deeper problems in education. You can see the full

467
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Speaker 11: column at Enzi Herald Premium. Back to Matt Heath and

468
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Speaker 11: Tyner Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty six to two.

470
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Speaker 2: This is an important issue that's floating in the background

471
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Speaker 2: of the other issue we're talking about the strikes. This

472
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Speaker 2: from Graham. Never mind the baseball Matt Heath, When is

473
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Speaker 2: that muppet Carlos Sign's going to realize he's the problem,

474
00:22:25,933 --> 00:22:27,813
Speaker 2: not the other drivers. This is the third or fourth

475
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Speaker 2: time he has taken out another driver trying to make

476
00:22:30,013 --> 00:22:32,013
Speaker 2: a pass that was never on. Is he going to

477
00:22:32,053 --> 00:22:35,253
Speaker 2: appeal his latest penalty? Never mind moaning about your girlfriend

478
00:22:35,293 --> 00:22:38,653
Speaker 2: being on TV. How about stopping t boning other cars you, Dick.

479
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Speaker 2: I agree with you Graham, and you know the abuse

480
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Speaker 2: that he was giving the Liam and the bullying Liam

481
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Speaker 2: when basically Carlos signs Dad is going to run the

482
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Speaker 2: whole shot. So he's like the He's like the kid

483
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Speaker 2: who's dad's the coach and he's getting away with everything

484
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Speaker 2: that guy hundred agree, that's not the issue we're talking about.

485
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Speaker 4: Yes, let's get back to evident chat about this mega

486
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Speaker 4: strike on Thursday. What are your thoughts about this mega

487
00:23:07,373 --> 00:23:10,413
Speaker 4: striking use of apporting the teachers, the health professionals, the

488
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Speaker 4: other public service workers or do you think it has

489
00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:15,533
Speaker 4: been weaponized by the unions and there is a political

490
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Speaker 4: element to it. Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: What exactly did the teachers want to discuss about Palestine?

492
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Speaker 2: It makes no sense at all. If they want to

493
00:23:21,293 --> 00:23:23,053
Speaker 2: protest the war, they can go and stand on a

494
00:23:23,093 --> 00:23:26,213
Speaker 2: corner in the weekend with their banners. But this Texas

495
00:23:26,253 --> 00:23:31,973
Speaker 2: says Judith Collins' private secretary instructed the PPTA not to

496
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Speaker 2: bring up pay and conditions. Are the items on the

497
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Speaker 2: agenda included Palestine? But this has now become the point

498
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Speaker 2: of focus. Now, well, what were the aple Crombie, what

499
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Speaker 2: did he say that the four things that they were

500
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Speaker 2: talking about in that meeting.

501
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Speaker 4: So this is the PPTA Association president. So he said,

502
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Speaker 4: I quote, the union had suggested four items relating to Palestine,

503
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Speaker 4: n CEA changes, AI marking, and the curriculum. I don't

504
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Speaker 4: think anyone can disagree with those last three. That is

505
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Speaker 4: right within your remit. That is bang on. They are

506
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Speaker 4: good things to discuss. And it's not to say Palestine

507
00:24:03,493 --> 00:24:06,173
Speaker 4: isn't a good thing to discuss, but not in that scenario,

508
00:24:06,253 --> 00:24:07,133
Speaker 4: not when you're trying.

509
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Speaker 2: It's the main character syndrome if you think that you

510
00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:11,813
Speaker 2: have anything to do with that situation. But if there's

511
00:24:11,813 --> 00:24:14,973
Speaker 2: four slots and you're using one of them on Palestine, yeah,

512
00:24:15,173 --> 00:24:17,413
Speaker 2: I think you're a little bit out of whack, you know,

513
00:24:17,533 --> 00:24:20,093
Speaker 2: just in my opinion this Texas is my daughter is

514
00:24:20,173 --> 00:24:23,093
Speaker 2: doing her first year at NCAA and is really upset

515
00:24:23,133 --> 00:24:25,733
Speaker 2: about these strikes. Exams are only three weeks away, and

516
00:24:25,773 --> 00:24:28,093
Speaker 2: now on top of a short semester, only fifteen weeks

517
00:24:28,253 --> 00:24:30,293
Speaker 2: instead of twenty weeks like the first half of the year.

518
00:24:30,493 --> 00:24:32,413
Speaker 2: They have to deal with even less teaching due to

519
00:24:32,453 --> 00:24:34,653
Speaker 2: the strikes. Do the teachers really think this is fair

520
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Speaker 2: to the students. Absolutely appalled by this behavior, says that Texter,

521
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Speaker 2: let's go to Justin. Welcome to the show.

522
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Speaker 3: Good, I go to you again.

523
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Speaker 2: Very good, thanks for calling.

524
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Speaker 3: No worries, No worry. A couple of teks before the

525
00:24:48,893 --> 00:24:52,973
Speaker 3: news were both being on in two points, Andrew, I

526
00:24:53,053 --> 00:24:56,613
Speaker 3: think it was they talked about the economy, the tax take,

527
00:24:56,733 --> 00:24:59,613
Speaker 3: that sort of thing that of course makes a huge

528
00:24:59,653 --> 00:25:01,773
Speaker 3: difference on how much money there is to throw around.

529
00:25:02,213 --> 00:25:04,453
Speaker 3: And you know, and we all know why there isn't

530
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Speaker 3: a huge amounts of Maine to throw around, COVID, the

531
00:25:07,293 --> 00:25:10,653
Speaker 3: previous labor and Green's governments that have put us into

532
00:25:10,653 --> 00:25:13,853
Speaker 3: this whole to a fair degree. And then your next

533
00:25:13,893 --> 00:25:15,653
Speaker 3: texta after an hour, and I think it was just

534
00:25:15,693 --> 00:25:19,653
Speaker 3: shows how to whack those the left side and these

535
00:25:19,693 --> 00:25:21,333
Speaker 3: teachers and that are in the unions.

536
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Speaker 10: You know.

537
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Speaker 3: The figure is I've read lately, and I know some

538
00:25:24,893 --> 00:25:26,973
Speaker 3: of them pretty well. I'm involved with schools with my

539
00:25:27,053 --> 00:25:30,013
Speaker 3: children and board of trustees and stuff. You know. But

540
00:25:30,333 --> 00:25:32,693
Speaker 3: the other day seventy eight thousand starting rate for a

541
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Speaker 3: teacher four thousand dollars a year pay rise, no questions asked.

542
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Speaker 3: You know, they can go through to one hundred and

543
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Speaker 3: eight thousand. They get their twelve weeks leave. I know

544
00:25:42,773 --> 00:25:44,853
Speaker 3: a nurse who's a nice to you. She's on over

545
00:25:44,893 --> 00:25:47,333
Speaker 3: one hundred grand. She does shift work, but she's more

546
00:25:47,373 --> 00:25:50,373
Speaker 3: than happy. You know, if the teachers want to earn

547
00:25:50,573 --> 00:25:52,733
Speaker 3: like a lawyer, go and be like a lawyer. But

548
00:25:52,813 --> 00:25:57,052
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a I working at farming family, farming

549
00:25:57,133 --> 00:26:00,653
Speaker 3: business with farmers and foresters. You know, I'm earning around

550
00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:03,613
Speaker 3: those starting teacher rates. But you know I get four

551
00:26:03,613 --> 00:26:06,093
Speaker 3: weeks leave a year. At certain times of the year,

552
00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:08,693
Speaker 3: I'm working six and seven days a week and I'm

553
00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:12,333
Speaker 3: working ten, eleven, twelve hours a day. So it's just

554
00:26:12,493 --> 00:26:15,293
Speaker 3: bloody ridiculous. You know, when the WEDND, they think the

555
00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:21,093
Speaker 3: checkbook runs out. You know, there's just I know, and

556
00:26:21,133 --> 00:26:23,333
Speaker 3: they want their votes, so that's why they pay. And

557
00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:26,653
Speaker 3: then it is totally political. The unions are just absolutely

558
00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:29,973
Speaker 3: on the bandwagon now because the election's coming up. They're

559
00:26:29,973 --> 00:26:32,613
Speaker 3: trying to make the right look shit because oh look

560
00:26:32,613 --> 00:26:35,013
Speaker 3: how mean they are. They won't give you any money.

561
00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:36,653
Speaker 3: But as Judith said the other day, I think in

562
00:26:36,693 --> 00:26:39,373
Speaker 3: the article the public sector has gone up two point

563
00:26:39,413 --> 00:26:42,413
Speaker 3: three and the sorry two point eight, and the private's

564
00:26:42,413 --> 00:26:47,813
Speaker 3: gone up two point three. So it's not a bottomless

565
00:26:47,813 --> 00:26:50,173
Speaker 3: pit of money, like they just need a reality check.

566
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Speaker 2: Is there anything that the teachers or let's just stick

567
00:26:53,893 --> 00:26:55,653
Speaker 2: to the teachers at the moment, because they were the

568
00:26:55,653 --> 00:26:59,173
Speaker 2: ones bringing up other issues and meetings. But is there

569
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Speaker 2: anything can do you have any sympathy for any of

570
00:27:02,493 --> 00:27:06,093
Speaker 2: the teacher's major demands, you know, the you know that.

571
00:27:07,693 --> 00:27:11,653
Speaker 3: On I'm not just making the stuff with the curriculum.

572
00:27:11,733 --> 00:27:14,133
Speaker 3: I am involved with Border trustees. I know there is

573
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Speaker 3: a huge amount of work going on with the introduction

574
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:20,693
Speaker 3: and primary schools of the phonics and the new curriculum

575
00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:24,133
Speaker 3: stuff going on, and mathematics as well. But they are

576
00:27:24,133 --> 00:27:27,093
Speaker 3: getting a lot of release time for that, and they're

577
00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:30,653
Speaker 3: getting a lot of PD, a lot of professional development

578
00:27:30,853 --> 00:27:33,733
Speaker 3: for that. It's not like it's totally cold Turkey. You know,

579
00:27:33,813 --> 00:27:37,333
Speaker 3: they are getting support and help with that stuff. But yeah,

580
00:27:37,413 --> 00:27:39,653
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, we all

581
00:27:39,653 --> 00:27:42,373
Speaker 3: do what we enjoy. I don't do what I do

582
00:27:42,853 --> 00:27:44,853
Speaker 3: just for the money. I wouldn't be doing it if

583
00:27:44,853 --> 00:27:47,653
Speaker 3: it was just for the money. So there's a certain

584
00:27:47,693 --> 00:27:49,373
Speaker 3: point We've got to look at the state of the world,

585
00:27:49,413 --> 00:27:51,333
Speaker 3: the state of the economy, and go, well, I just

586
00:27:51,373 --> 00:27:53,973
Speaker 3: can't keep asking for more because yeah, there's not more

587
00:27:54,013 --> 00:27:55,453
Speaker 3: to be taken at this point in time.

588
00:27:55,933 --> 00:27:59,213
Speaker 2: What do you think of the pushback that they say

589
00:28:00,013 --> 00:28:03,293
Speaker 2: tax cuts and you know that that point that they

590
00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:09,093
Speaker 2: keep repeating the union's tax cuts for the landlords.

591
00:28:10,493 --> 00:28:14,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, the right had not got it one hundred percent, right,

592
00:28:14,453 --> 00:28:16,453
Speaker 3: you know, there's no doubt about that. And there was

593
00:28:16,493 --> 00:28:19,293
Speaker 3: the issue too, wasn't there with the tobacco industry. Got

594
00:28:19,293 --> 00:28:23,453
Speaker 3: some relief or something there too, didn't They they're certainly

595
00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:26,413
Speaker 3: far from perfect. But the reality is we've just come

596
00:28:26,453 --> 00:28:29,693
Speaker 3: out of COVID, we've come out. We're in a massive world,

597
00:28:30,213 --> 00:28:33,573
Speaker 3: you know, depression of work and things like that, and

598
00:28:34,053 --> 00:28:35,812
Speaker 3: you've just got to be realistic with that. You know,

599
00:28:35,853 --> 00:28:38,373
Speaker 3: you just can't keep asking all the time for more

600
00:28:38,373 --> 00:28:41,973
Speaker 3: and more. Yeah, you know, you just can't. It's not

601
00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:44,253
Speaker 3: always going to be there when things are good. Yep,

602
00:28:44,293 --> 00:28:46,493
Speaker 3: you get big pay risers. When things are tough, you're

603
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:47,933
Speaker 3: tight in your belt and you just put your head

604
00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,053
Speaker 3: down and your ass uff and your work. But teaching,

605
00:28:50,093 --> 00:28:51,653
Speaker 3: they just don't seem to see it like that way.

606
00:28:51,693 --> 00:28:54,853
Speaker 3: They just every year want more, and the unions just, yeah,

607
00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:57,373
Speaker 3: try and make the right look bad because you know

608
00:28:57,933 --> 00:28:59,493
Speaker 3: they want the left to get back in because they

609
00:28:59,573 --> 00:29:01,693
Speaker 3: know they'll guarantee them a pay rise. But you know

610
00:29:01,733 --> 00:29:03,533
Speaker 3: that's why what have we blurned out to one hundred

611
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:06,213
Speaker 3: and eighty million dollars of geet or something. It's just nuts.

612
00:29:06,293 --> 00:29:07,813
Speaker 3: We just can't afford it billion.

613
00:29:08,973 --> 00:29:09,973
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Justin.

614
00:29:10,053 --> 00:29:12,493
Speaker 4: That is certainly the sentiment from a lot of people

615
00:29:12,493 --> 00:29:12,893
Speaker 4: out there.

616
00:29:12,973 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 2: Well, this text pushes back on Justin and says that

617
00:29:17,013 --> 00:29:19,573
Speaker 2: Farmer should go teaching. Yeah, right, wouldn't last a week

618
00:29:19,853 --> 00:29:23,733
Speaker 2: and seventy eight k starting rate? No way, check your facts, buddy.

619
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Speaker 4: Got on your text? Nine two ninety two is the

620
00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 4: text number. I mean, this is the hard part when

621
00:29:28,213 --> 00:29:30,813
Speaker 4: it comes to collective bargaining, right, is that it's not

622
00:29:30,893 --> 00:29:33,093
Speaker 4: based on a merit situation. And there's all sorts of

623
00:29:33,093 --> 00:29:35,653
Speaker 4: reasons for that. But that's why it's incredibly tough when

624
00:29:35,693 --> 00:29:38,133
Speaker 4: I look at this from the outside. Teachers, for example,

625
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:40,213
Speaker 4: they are fantastic, a lot of them are, and we

626
00:29:40,253 --> 00:29:41,853
Speaker 4: need them and we need them to be good. But

627
00:29:41,973 --> 00:29:44,253
Speaker 4: when it's not merit based and it's collective based, and

628
00:29:44,293 --> 00:29:46,813
Speaker 4: it's led primarily by a union who does appear to

629
00:29:46,853 --> 00:29:49,173
Speaker 4: be political judging on some of these things. Chris amber

630
00:29:49,213 --> 00:29:52,933
Speaker 4: Kombia's saying, that makes it incredibly difficult for individual teachers

631
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Speaker 4: who may be feeling aggrieved by how this is going,

632
00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:58,693
Speaker 4: but they can't do anything. They're based in this union

633
00:29:58,813 --> 00:30:02,733
Speaker 4: but union led collective agreement. Rather than I'm a good teacher,

634
00:30:02,773 --> 00:30:05,093
Speaker 4: here's why, and here's why I deserve a pay cut

635
00:30:05,133 --> 00:30:05,813
Speaker 4: by myself.

636
00:30:06,773 --> 00:30:09,773
Speaker 2: So just further to the to the pay argument, the

637
00:30:09,773 --> 00:30:12,293
Speaker 2: government says the latest offer to primary teachers which have

638
00:30:12,373 --> 00:30:14,853
Speaker 2: accepted being sixty sixty percent of them will earn a

639
00:30:14,893 --> 00:30:18,053
Speaker 2: base saluvy of at least one hundred thousand dollars within

640
00:30:18,093 --> 00:30:20,733
Speaker 2: twelve months. For secondary teachers, seventy six will reach a

641
00:30:20,773 --> 00:30:23,813
Speaker 2: base of one hundred thousand dollars from the twenty ninth

642
00:30:23,813 --> 00:30:25,933
Speaker 2: of October twenty twenty five. I mean, it's confusing when

643
00:30:25,933 --> 00:30:27,773
Speaker 2: you say seventy six of them will reach a base

644
00:30:27,813 --> 00:30:30,173
Speaker 2: of one hundred thousand, but that's what the government say.

645
00:30:30,293 --> 00:30:32,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

646
00:30:32,253 --> 00:30:34,413
Speaker 4: number to call. It's eighteen to two.

647
00:30:35,173 --> 00:30:38,573
Speaker 2: Back in a moment, Wow, it's certainly firing people like this, sisc.

648
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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

649
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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be afternoon Judah is a quarter to term. We're

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Speaker 4: talking about the megastrike on Thursday. What is your feeling

652
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Speaker 4: towards it? If you're a parent, if you are due

653
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,093
Speaker 4: to jump into the hospital, jump into the hospital, if

654
00:30:58,093 --> 00:30:59,933
Speaker 4: you've got a hospital appointment. How do you feel about

655
00:30:59,933 --> 00:31:01,813
Speaker 4: this mega strike? Do you think it's fair play? Do

656
00:31:01,853 --> 00:31:04,133
Speaker 4: you back the protesters or do you think they need

657
00:31:04,173 --> 00:31:05,893
Speaker 4: to come back to the collective bargaining table.

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Speaker 2: The six says teachers deserve everything they get and more.

659
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:10,813
Speaker 2: If people aren't happy with what teachers get paid, teach

660
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Speaker 2: your children at home. I mean, I love teachers. My

661
00:31:13,493 --> 00:31:15,853
Speaker 2: mum was a teacher, and well I love some teachers.

662
00:31:15,853 --> 00:31:18,173
Speaker 2: Some teachers are terrible, but a lot of them are

663
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Speaker 2: fantastic and just work so hard and do extra stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I've seen teachers just go out of their way

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Speaker 2: for my kids in the time, and I'm really grateful

666
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Speaker 2: for it. And I think a lot of people would

667
00:31:27,693 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 2: agree that teachers that we I think a lot of

668
00:31:31,213 --> 00:31:32,893
Speaker 2: people think that we'd like to live in a country

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Speaker 2: where we could pay teachers a lot more. Unfortunately, the

670
00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:39,373
Speaker 2: reality is that we're pretty broke, and we're spending a

671
00:31:39,413 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 2: whole whole lot of money paying interest on a huge debt,

672
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:44,853
Speaker 2: so we don't really have a lot of money to

673
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Speaker 2: throw around. So in the perfect world, we would pay

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Speaker 2: teachers a tur hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year

675
00:31:53,173 --> 00:31:55,933
Speaker 2: definitely if we could, and we get the absolute best

676
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Speaker 2: people into teaching, and because I believe the children are

677
00:31:59,613 --> 00:32:03,453
Speaker 2: a future. Nicely et good line like Whitney Houston. But

678
00:32:03,493 --> 00:32:06,293
Speaker 2: we I mean, the reality is that we don't really

679
00:32:06,293 --> 00:32:08,053
Speaker 2: have a lot of money at the moment. High guys,

680
00:32:08,093 --> 00:32:11,133
Speaker 2: great topic. I'm a former teacher and a former school principal.

681
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Speaker 2: I am also an ongoing honorary member of the Teacher's Union.

682
00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:16,973
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed about the strike. There is little need for it.

683
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Speaker 2: Get back to negotiating table right away. Cheers, Jason, Thank

684
00:32:21,213 --> 00:32:23,573
Speaker 2: you for that text. This Texas is I'm a science

685
00:32:23,573 --> 00:32:26,653
Speaker 2: technician under n ZEI, and I can assure you that

686
00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:31,093
Speaker 2: a lot of support staff were against the strike. NZDA

687
00:32:31,213 --> 00:32:33,813
Speaker 2: voting systems are dodgy at best, they should be investigated.

688
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:36,413
Speaker 2: Boy people that were Yeah, yeah, I know there are

689
00:32:36,493 --> 00:32:39,333
Speaker 2: issues in government budgets, but it's a question of choices

690
00:32:39,373 --> 00:32:42,373
Speaker 2: on right leanding. But national is making the situation works.

691
00:32:42,693 --> 00:32:45,453
Speaker 2: We need proper reform while government departments need to be

692
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Speaker 2: dissolved or amalgamated. That is from John Brian.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, guy, I tell you very good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's just.

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Speaker 6: A quick couple of comments about the unions. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the problem I see with the unions is that they're

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Speaker 6: useful in areas where we're needing a representation of working conditions,

699
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Speaker 6: and that I think quite often they are very political.

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Speaker 6: And the other problem with them is they're self serving.

701
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Speaker 6: You can imagine that their whole reason for existence is

702
00:33:19,493 --> 00:33:23,093
Speaker 6: to increase, you know, a working or better working positions,

703
00:33:23,173 --> 00:33:26,573
Speaker 6: but pay for their members, because you can imagine if

704
00:33:26,573 --> 00:33:28,893
Speaker 6: they never got a pay rise for the members, the

705
00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:31,853
Speaker 6: members would leave and then there's no fees and then

706
00:33:31,853 --> 00:33:36,253
Speaker 6: there's no hierarchy needed. So you know, it's only in

707
00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,533
Speaker 6: there ever best interest to say we need well pay,

708
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:42,453
Speaker 6: we need more pay, and that might not necessarily be

709
00:33:42,573 --> 00:33:45,613
Speaker 6: the sentiment of the members, and many of them may

710
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Speaker 6: well understand the plight of the country at the moment,

711
00:33:48,173 --> 00:33:52,773
Speaker 6: and that there isn't nice funds. But that happens in

712
00:33:52,773 --> 00:33:54,853
Speaker 6: the unions. I mean it happened in the freezing works

713
00:33:55,253 --> 00:33:58,693
Speaker 6: where they just increased pay and pay and pay, and

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Speaker 6: they strikes and all sorts of things until basically the

715
00:34:02,653 --> 00:34:07,013
Speaker 6: freezing works just got eaten away because they are uncompetitive,

716
00:34:07,173 --> 00:34:09,812
Speaker 6: you know, compared with the oversee because of our flavor rate.

717
00:34:11,213 --> 00:34:13,813
Speaker 6: So you know, you can't do that with teachers. I

718
00:34:13,813 --> 00:34:16,413
Speaker 6: hope I don't because you need teachers. But I think

719
00:34:16,453 --> 00:34:18,213
Speaker 6: that's the thing. And the other little comment is you

720
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Speaker 6: keep on mentioning about the unman. You know, there isn't

721
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Speaker 6: an endless money for you know, all these things. That

722
00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:28,533
Speaker 6: is quite right, and people sometimes think they quickly move

723
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Speaker 6: on from the whole that was dune during COVID, and

724
00:34:32,253 --> 00:34:37,053
Speaker 6: we talk about literally being able to service the interest

725
00:34:37,853 --> 00:34:42,333
Speaker 6: debt or the debt interest on the debt. No one

726
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,493
Speaker 6: is even mentioning about going beyond that and paying down debt.

727
00:34:47,173 --> 00:34:49,893
Speaker 6: And that's where you're going to get this multi generational

728
00:34:51,853 --> 00:34:56,453
Speaker 6: a fere where we're basically plundered the coffers and it's

729
00:34:56,573 --> 00:34:59,613
Speaker 6: generations that are going to pay for that. So you know,

730
00:35:00,093 --> 00:35:02,493
Speaker 6: people seem to move on quickly and say, oh, you know,

731
00:35:02,573 --> 00:35:04,613
Speaker 6: why the government doing this and why are they doing that?

732
00:35:04,693 --> 00:35:08,133
Speaker 6: And surely we've got money, and it's just it's basically

733
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Speaker 6: not actually facing up to the reality of it.

734
00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:13,813
Speaker 2: Well, what what do you what do you think about

735
00:35:14,893 --> 00:35:17,173
Speaker 2: you know, the pushback that the that the n z

736
00:35:17,973 --> 00:35:23,013
Speaker 2: I is giving to the government about about tax cuts, Brian,

737
00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:26,172
Speaker 2: because this is this is the line that they're using

738
00:35:26,173 --> 00:35:28,413
Speaker 2: a lot, and it's a it's a labor party line,

739
00:35:28,453 --> 00:35:31,093
Speaker 2: isn't it. The government has spent huge sums on tax

740
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:34,013
Speaker 2: cuts for landlords, tax cuts for tobacco companies, and huge

741
00:35:34,053 --> 00:35:38,213
Speaker 2: increases in public sector board directors fees. Now they need

742
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Speaker 2: to invest in education. What do you think about this?

743
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Speaker 6: As if they hadn't have done that, I mean they

744
00:35:45,653 --> 00:35:47,453
Speaker 6: I mean you saw you know, I mean the election.

745
00:35:47,533 --> 00:35:49,173
Speaker 6: If they hadn't have done that, they may not have

746
00:35:49,213 --> 00:35:52,093
Speaker 6: got it. And you can't be bigger all the power.

747
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:56,253
Speaker 6: So I mean, you know, it was a big charac

748
00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:58,533
Speaker 6: dangled in front of everyone for a lot of a

749
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:01,692
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of voters. Yeah, I mean it'll

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Speaker 6: be the same and you know, I mean, well whatever

751
00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:07,772
Speaker 6: calor political party you dangle a carrot of some sort,

752
00:36:07,813 --> 00:36:09,732
Speaker 6: and it's usually he follows a theme.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So do you think, Brian, that the core frustration

754
00:36:13,653 --> 00:36:15,373
Speaker 4: that is out there for maybe a lot of people

755
00:36:15,493 --> 00:36:17,173
Speaker 4: is that this is tough times at the moment and

756
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:19,732
Speaker 4: not too many people are getting pay rises each year.

757
00:36:20,373 --> 00:36:22,293
Speaker 4: So it's that idea we're going to We're got to

758
00:36:22,373 --> 00:36:24,573
Speaker 4: keep our heads down and push through this and times

759
00:36:24,613 --> 00:36:28,253
Speaker 4: will get better. And maybe they're not feeling that unions

760
00:36:28,773 --> 00:36:30,453
Speaker 4: have got that same mentality at the moment.

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00:36:32,013 --> 00:36:35,533
Speaker 6: Well, that's correct, but I also say the public service,

762
00:36:35,613 --> 00:36:39,373
Speaker 6: I mean just just you know, driving forever increasing wages.

763
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, people go on about their private sector,

764
00:36:42,773 --> 00:36:45,973
Speaker 6: private sectors, capitalists and things like that at the moment.

765
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Speaker 6: Every other day currently you hear about a major business

766
00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:54,893
Speaker 6: or company going under. You know, there was a grab

767
00:36:54,933 --> 00:36:59,133
Speaker 6: one today on the news. There was down here in

768
00:36:59,213 --> 00:37:04,373
Speaker 6: christ it's a smith's city. The furniture retailers and department

769
00:37:04,413 --> 00:37:07,493
Speaker 6: stores going under. There's there's all sorts. Just every other day,

770
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:10,093
Speaker 6: it seems like top else was going under. And that's

771
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:13,493
Speaker 6: the reality of the private sector at the moment. So

772
00:37:13,813 --> 00:37:20,373
Speaker 6: you know, they're certainly doling out the they'rever increasing pay increases.

773
00:37:20,613 --> 00:37:23,413
Speaker 6: They're trying to keep a float at a tough time.

774
00:37:24,013 --> 00:37:28,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you.

775
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:31,493
Speaker 2: Call Brian the six is Hey, guys, just joined the conversation,

776
00:37:31,573 --> 00:37:33,333
Speaker 2: but I wanted to text in. At the start of

777
00:37:33,373 --> 00:37:36,013
Speaker 2: this teachers slash nurse to strike. I was fully behind them.

778
00:37:36,013 --> 00:37:39,053
Speaker 2: Everyone deserves good pay. However, this has gone on for

779
00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:40,813
Speaker 2: way too long. I bet most of the public are

780
00:37:40,813 --> 00:37:42,893
Speaker 2: over at too. I know many in the private sector

781
00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:45,293
Speaker 2: that have gone years without a pay increase. I'm finding

782
00:37:45,293 --> 00:37:48,013
Speaker 2: these straights incredibly frustrating. Thanks Thomas, thank you for that.

783
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,533
Speaker 4: Teach nine two nine two is that number. We're going

784
00:37:50,533 --> 00:37:53,013
Speaker 4: to play some messages, but we'll come back with more

785
00:37:53,133 --> 00:37:55,333
Speaker 4: of your thoughts. It is eight minutes to two.

786
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.

787
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Speaker 1: It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons news Dogs.

788
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Speaker 4: B news Dogs there b. It's five to two.

789
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Speaker 2: The six and says, please don't talk about tax cuts

790
00:38:10,053 --> 00:38:12,453
Speaker 2: for landlords. This is a fallacy. Labour skewed the tax

791
00:38:12,493 --> 00:38:16,613
Speaker 2: system by removing normal tax deductibility and this government fixed that. Yeah.

792
00:38:16,613 --> 00:38:19,093
Speaker 2: I mean it's a bit of a tack line, isn't it.

793
00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:19,373
Speaker 13: Yeah.

794
00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:23,493
Speaker 2: It's a it's a workshop slogan from the Labor Party.

795
00:38:23,493 --> 00:38:25,613
Speaker 2: But there's there's definitely you can look at that two ways.

796
00:38:25,613 --> 00:38:28,293
Speaker 2: For sure. You certainly this Texas says you two fascists

797
00:38:28,293 --> 00:38:30,973
Speaker 2: needs to shut up, You two fascists need to shut

798
00:38:31,013 --> 00:38:33,293
Speaker 2: up and pay the teachers. Well, it's not really up

799
00:38:33,333 --> 00:38:36,133
Speaker 2: to me whether the teachers get paid or not or Tyler, No,

800
00:38:36,493 --> 00:38:39,172
Speaker 2: but all we're doing is asking questions and allowing people

801
00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:41,013
Speaker 2: to have the conversation on both sides.

802
00:38:40,773 --> 00:38:44,413
Speaker 4: Always with the fascists, always with the fascist the insults. Pete,

803
00:38:44,413 --> 00:38:46,213
Speaker 4: we've got about sixty seconds, my friend, what do you

804
00:38:46,213 --> 00:38:47,253
Speaker 4: think here?

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00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:49,813
Speaker 13: So here's the question for you. Do you think that

806
00:38:49,853 --> 00:38:55,093
Speaker 13: the unions are effectively worthholding education and withholding healthcare in

807
00:38:55,213 --> 00:38:57,773
Speaker 13: order to achieve the goals of their supporters?

808
00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:01,293
Speaker 2: Tough, I'm not sure.

809
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:03,213
Speaker 4: I think yeah, that's the case.

810
00:39:03,413 --> 00:39:05,373
Speaker 13: Isn't that what the Republicans in the States are doing

811
00:39:05,453 --> 00:39:06,333
Speaker 13: getting vilified for?

812
00:39:08,853 --> 00:39:10,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess that's I mean, that's what

813
00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:12,692
Speaker 2: you do. That's what a strike is, really, isn't it.

814
00:39:13,173 --> 00:39:13,413
Speaker 6: You know?

815
00:39:13,533 --> 00:39:17,293
Speaker 13: You they're withholding healthcare from New Zealanders and what's holding education?

816
00:39:17,653 --> 00:39:20,172
Speaker 13: The further their own goals? They should be called out

817
00:39:20,213 --> 00:39:20,493
Speaker 13: for it.

818
00:39:20,613 --> 00:39:22,253
Speaker 2: There you go, Pete, But I mean the striking has

819
00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:23,732
Speaker 2: been a thing that people have used for a long

820
00:39:23,773 --> 00:39:25,813
Speaker 2: time to get results.

821
00:39:25,893 --> 00:39:28,133
Speaker 4: That's right. But you've got to keep that balance right though,

822
00:39:28,173 --> 00:39:31,293
Speaker 4: don't you. And as we've seen via otics machine, apparently

823
00:39:31,373 --> 00:39:34,733
Speaker 4: a few teachers are not happy with what their unions

824
00:39:34,733 --> 00:39:36,533
Speaker 4: are doing here. So you've got to be careful because

825
00:39:36,533 --> 00:39:39,013
Speaker 4: that's who votes you in. And if you go against

826
00:39:39,053 --> 00:39:41,493
Speaker 4: the public and the teachers themselves, then your bugget well.

827
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Speaker 2: I think whichever way you sit on it, I think

828
00:39:43,693 --> 00:39:46,853
Speaker 2: most people would agree it was insane that one of

829
00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:49,253
Speaker 2: the four things they were bringing up with Eerga Stanford

830
00:39:51,293 --> 00:39:53,453
Speaker 2: was palistine so strange.

831
00:39:53,893 --> 00:39:55,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, thank you?

832
00:39:55,853 --> 00:39:56,733
Speaker 2: How does that happen?

833
00:39:56,813 --> 00:39:58,013
Speaker 4: How did that get on the list?

834
00:39:58,133 --> 00:39:59,613
Speaker 2: So you're not looking the mirror in the morning and

835
00:39:59,613 --> 00:40:02,212
Speaker 2: go are we doing something really crazy here?

836
00:40:02,253 --> 00:40:02,453
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Great discussion coming up after two o'clock. Let's have a

838
00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:07,573
Speaker 4: chat about how good the sun is for you. That's next.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

840
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Speaker 1: Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 6: It be.

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00:40:17,933 --> 00:40:19,933
Speaker 4: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. I

843
00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:23,493
Speaker 4: hope you're having a great Monday after noon. It's beautifully

844
00:40:23,533 --> 00:40:25,493
Speaker 4: sunny in Auckland at the moment. I know there's some

845
00:40:25,693 --> 00:40:27,693
Speaker 4: weather issues down south, but I hope you're having a

846
00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:30,853
Speaker 4: good day. Nonetheless, this is going to be a great discussion.

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00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:34,252
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it is weather related. It is sun. It's

848
00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:37,093
Speaker 2: the harsh New Zealand sun.

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00:40:36,933 --> 00:40:39,053
Speaker 4: Certainly is so. This is a new report from the

850
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Speaker 4: Public Health Communications Center says around one hundred thousand New

851
00:40:43,053 --> 00:40:45,933
Speaker 4: Zealanders are diagnosed with skin cancer every year. There are

852
00:40:45,933 --> 00:40:48,853
Speaker 4: big numbers, and around five hundred die annually. But the

853
00:40:48,933 --> 00:40:52,613
Speaker 4: call for from doctor Bromwin mcnow she was the lead

854
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Speaker 4: author of this study. She wants mandatory shade in public places,

855
00:40:57,973 --> 00:41:01,893
Speaker 4: a ban on commercial sunbeards, mandatory standards for sunglasses and

856
00:41:01,933 --> 00:41:05,773
Speaker 4: some protective clothing, and an increase in routine checks of

857
00:41:05,773 --> 00:41:07,293
Speaker 4: your skin and your moles.

858
00:41:07,693 --> 00:41:12,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, obviously those numbers are rough, the amount

859
00:41:12,253 --> 00:41:15,133
Speaker 2: of people that are being affected by it and the death.

860
00:41:15,173 --> 00:41:17,973
Speaker 2: But I think it's it's I hate the idea of

861
00:41:18,053 --> 00:41:19,613
Speaker 2: if someone wants to go into a sun beard, then

862
00:41:19,653 --> 00:41:24,173
Speaker 2: that's their decision, right, Yeah, banning sunbeard seems and mandatory

863
00:41:24,173 --> 00:41:27,933
Speaker 2: shade all that kind of stuff. It's it's it's it's

864
00:41:28,013 --> 00:41:31,613
Speaker 2: as I talk about a lot, it's the infantalization, infantalization

865
00:41:31,773 --> 00:41:34,893
Speaker 2: of our country. We're just treating people like children. So

866
00:41:35,013 --> 00:41:40,013
Speaker 2: the government starts treating everyone like their mum and you're

867
00:41:40,013 --> 00:41:42,853
Speaker 2: a little kid, and yelling at us to put on

868
00:41:42,893 --> 00:41:44,773
Speaker 2: a hap before we go outside and stuff, all that

869
00:41:44,813 --> 00:41:49,293
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that get under the shade to educate people. Absolutely,

870
00:41:49,653 --> 00:41:51,573
Speaker 2: get the message out there, But any people have to

871
00:41:51,573 --> 00:41:54,373
Speaker 2: make up their own decision in life. But I think

872
00:41:54,693 --> 00:41:58,093
Speaker 2: the interesting question about this is the more we hit,

873
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,692
Speaker 2: the more we learn going forward about vitamin D and

874
00:42:01,733 --> 00:42:05,613
Speaker 2: the mental health and general health benefits of being out

875
00:42:05,613 --> 00:42:10,333
Speaker 2: in the sun and and and our side activities sport,

876
00:42:10,933 --> 00:42:14,533
Speaker 2: going on big walks, tramps, running, all that kind of stuff.

877
00:42:14,733 --> 00:42:18,453
Speaker 2: All that really really good stuff for kids and adults

878
00:42:18,853 --> 00:42:22,333
Speaker 2: happens outside yep. And it's hugely beneficial. I mean, just

879
00:42:22,333 --> 00:42:23,813
Speaker 2: can be. I mean it's just a matter of an

880
00:42:23,853 --> 00:42:28,253
Speaker 2: obvious comparison sitting inside all day scrolling on your phone

881
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:32,172
Speaker 2: with the curtains closed, yep, or being out and about

882
00:42:32,253 --> 00:42:37,253
Speaker 2: with other people outside in the sun mentally mental health wise.

883
00:42:37,893 --> 00:42:39,212
Speaker 2: We know which one's better for us.

884
00:42:39,173 --> 00:42:41,973
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, I've been there. I know those weekends where

885
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:43,813
Speaker 4: I didn't step foot outside of the home and I

886
00:42:43,933 --> 00:42:46,973
Speaker 4: was on the PlayStation and scrolling and watching movies. And

887
00:42:47,013 --> 00:42:49,613
Speaker 4: that's an okay thing to do. But man, oh man,

888
00:42:49,853 --> 00:42:52,693
Speaker 4: did I feel sluggish after those two days of not

889
00:42:52,813 --> 00:42:54,172
Speaker 4: having any sun at all?

890
00:42:54,653 --> 00:42:56,773
Speaker 2: And look, maybe this makes me a bad parent. It

891
00:42:56,813 --> 00:42:59,053
Speaker 2: could be. I'd love to hear from you and one

892
00:42:59,093 --> 00:43:01,773
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty, But with my kids growing up,

893
00:43:01,853 --> 00:43:06,973
Speaker 2: I was always much more focused on them getting out

894
00:43:07,013 --> 00:43:09,652
Speaker 2: into the sun than worrying about the sunburn. Yep. I

895
00:43:09,813 --> 00:43:13,692
Speaker 2: was just way more focused on that. And look, one

896
00:43:13,693 --> 00:43:16,293
Speaker 2: of them came out quite brown, yep, and the other

897
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,853
Speaker 2: one didn't, and so you know, it was a bit

898
00:43:19,253 --> 00:43:20,813
Speaker 2: more of an issue for the other one. But we've

899
00:43:20,853 --> 00:43:24,413
Speaker 2: taken them to get mole maps regularly, and that's important. Yeah,

900
00:43:24,453 --> 00:43:26,933
Speaker 2: But you know, is that the solution is the solution

901
00:43:27,093 --> 00:43:29,692
Speaker 2: to get out there and enjoy the sun and all

902
00:43:29,733 --> 00:43:32,373
Speaker 2: the benefits that come with that vitamin D that that

903
00:43:32,413 --> 00:43:35,973
Speaker 2: we hear about, and just get mole maps regularly.

904
00:43:36,893 --> 00:43:38,293
Speaker 4: I think that is genuinely it.

905
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:40,813
Speaker 2: I mean, I think in twenty twenty five, it's very

906
00:43:40,893 --> 00:43:43,373
Speaker 2: dangerous to to hide from the sun.

907
00:43:43,493 --> 00:43:45,453
Speaker 4: It is absolutely and for a lot of people, and

908
00:43:45,493 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 4: we'd love to hear from you, oh eight, one hundred

909
00:43:46,853 --> 00:43:48,213
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty if you've had a bit of

910
00:43:48,213 --> 00:43:51,293
Speaker 4: a melanoma scire Sometimes it is hard to pinpoint. It

911
00:43:51,373 --> 00:43:53,373
Speaker 4: might be people that have office jobs and are not

912
00:43:53,413 --> 00:43:56,533
Speaker 4: actually out in the sun that much who get targeted

913
00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:58,493
Speaker 4: by this sort of stuff. But that idea of a

914
00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:00,933
Speaker 4: mole check because just going through those figures again, one

915
00:44:00,973 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 4: hundred thousand New Zealanders diagnosed with skin cancer every year. Yeah,

916
00:44:05,053 --> 00:44:07,653
Speaker 4: five hundred die annually. So it is one of those things.

917
00:44:07,653 --> 00:44:10,453
Speaker 4: It's a scary, terrible thing if you are diagnosed with it,

918
00:44:10,653 --> 00:44:13,093
Speaker 4: but if you get it early enough, it is it

919
00:44:13,173 --> 00:44:15,893
Speaker 4: is very very curable or they can they can certainly

920
00:44:15,893 --> 00:44:18,213
Speaker 4: remove it and there's no lasting effects.

921
00:44:18,253 --> 00:44:22,653
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's you know, obviously nobody wants

922
00:44:22,653 --> 00:44:27,013
Speaker 2: that situation if they can possibly help it. But it's

923
00:44:27,173 --> 00:44:30,453
Speaker 2: it's pretty good, you know, when you go through the numbers.

924
00:44:31,973 --> 00:44:35,533
Speaker 2: You know, if it's discovered stage stage one ninety eight

925
00:44:35,813 --> 00:44:39,053
Speaker 2: to ninety nine percent curable, stage two ninety to ninety five. Yep,

926
00:44:40,173 --> 00:44:41,933
Speaker 2: it doesn't get good when you get to stage three,

927
00:44:42,293 --> 00:44:45,173
Speaker 2: which is sixty five to eighty percent curable. But I

928
00:44:45,173 --> 00:44:48,773
Speaker 2: guess my point is, say vitamin D right, sunlight triggers

929
00:44:48,773 --> 00:44:51,373
Speaker 2: the skin to produce vitamin D which is crucial for bone, houth,

930
00:44:51,453 --> 00:44:54,733
Speaker 2: immune function, and muscle strength. Low vitamin D levels a

931
00:44:54,813 --> 00:44:59,013
Speaker 2: link to osteoporosis, depression, fatigue, and higher risk confections. Studies

932
00:44:59,013 --> 00:45:01,053
Speaker 2: show around thirty to fifty percent in New Zealanders may

933
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:04,453
Speaker 2: have suffered vitamin D deficiency in the winter, especially the

934
00:45:04,453 --> 00:45:06,533
Speaker 2: South Island, elderly and people who spend a lot of

935
00:45:06,573 --> 00:45:09,733
Speaker 2: time inside sunlight exposure. But sarah tonin the brain chemical

936
00:45:09,773 --> 00:45:13,973
Speaker 2: link with mood and focus. And we've all heard about SAD,

937
00:45:14,053 --> 00:45:16,853
Speaker 2: which is a seasonal effective disorder, a type of depression

938
00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:20,533
Speaker 2: common in winter. So you know morning sunlight exposure particularly

939
00:45:20,813 --> 00:45:24,172
Speaker 2: helps with the circadian rhythms. Yes, how do we balance this?

940
00:45:24,253 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 4: Where is the balance between getting that vitamin D and

941
00:45:27,213 --> 00:45:31,213
Speaker 4: sunshine which is clearly incredibly critical, And be mindful of

942
00:45:31,253 --> 00:45:34,573
Speaker 4: the old skin cancer as well? Is that a yearly

943
00:45:34,693 --> 00:45:36,453
Speaker 4: mold check of that you love to hear from you.

944
00:45:36,493 --> 00:45:38,973
Speaker 2: Look, I was horrifically sunburned just the other day.

945
00:45:39,613 --> 00:45:41,333
Speaker 4: You're looking good. Actually, you got a good tan by

946
00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:43,533
Speaker 4: the way, Thank you. Yeah, looking good? It is twelve

947
00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:44,053
Speaker 4: past two.

948
00:45:44,133 --> 00:45:45,093
Speaker 2: That's sunburn.

949
00:45:46,413 --> 00:45:50,773
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

950
00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:53,613
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty used talk ZA.

951
00:45:53,733 --> 00:45:58,253
Speaker 4: Be very good afternoon due fourteen past two. So we're

952
00:45:58,293 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 4: talking about skin cancer rates in New Zealand as a

953
00:46:01,573 --> 00:46:04,933
Speaker 4: study out. The lead author wants to have mandatory shade,

954
00:46:04,933 --> 00:46:07,973
Speaker 4: They want to ban sun beds, and they want to

955
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:10,812
Speaker 4: bring out the ability to have more regular mold chicks.

956
00:46:10,813 --> 00:46:12,853
Speaker 4: I think on that final point that sounds like a

957
00:46:12,853 --> 00:46:15,133
Speaker 4: good balance because no doubt about it, we need the

958
00:46:15,213 --> 00:46:17,773
Speaker 4: sun and we need vitamin D to stay healthy and happy.

959
00:46:18,013 --> 00:46:22,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want your kids and you want your everyone. Actually,

960
00:46:22,133 --> 00:46:25,373
Speaker 2: you want everyone out and about enjoying the en doing

961
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:28,652
Speaker 2: nature and enjoying and getting some on the skin. This

962
00:46:28,773 --> 00:46:30,813
Speaker 2: Texas is get your ass out of bed early, a

963
00:46:30,813 --> 00:46:33,373
Speaker 2: couple of hours morning sun before you slip, slop slap.

964
00:46:33,533 --> 00:46:36,133
Speaker 2: I mean that's a good idea, isn't it. And you know,

965
00:46:36,413 --> 00:46:38,533
Speaker 2: I've listened to a bunch of podcasts. There's a fantastic

966
00:46:38,533 --> 00:46:43,613
Speaker 2: one from Huberman on this, and one of the best

967
00:46:43,813 --> 00:46:46,453
Speaker 2: possible things you can do for your health is to

968
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:49,373
Speaker 2: get out of bed early when the sun's up before work,

969
00:46:49,453 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 2: and just have a ten to fifteen to twenty minute

970
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:56,373
Speaker 2: walk in the daylight before before you do before you

971
00:46:56,413 --> 00:46:56,813
Speaker 2: go to work.

972
00:46:56,853 --> 00:46:59,413
Speaker 4: It's great for sleep that day, isn't it. I heard that,

973
00:46:59,573 --> 00:47:01,293
Speaker 4: tried it, Yeah, and it makes a big difference.

974
00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:03,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, itreat It's great for your sleeping patterns. It's great

975
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:05,453
Speaker 2: for waking you up. It wakes you up more than

976
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:07,573
Speaker 2: sunlight on the top of your eyes, wakes you up

977
00:47:07,613 --> 00:47:10,652
Speaker 2: more than a coffee yep, because because that's what your

978
00:47:10,653 --> 00:47:13,773
Speaker 2: body's designed. You know, we used to sleep outside. You'd

979
00:47:13,773 --> 00:47:14,973
Speaker 2: get up, you have a walk around, you get the

980
00:47:14,973 --> 00:47:17,613
Speaker 2: sun on you straight away, and so that's the signals

981
00:47:17,653 --> 00:47:20,773
Speaker 2: to wake us up, you know, evolutionarily speaking. Yeah, so

982
00:47:21,653 --> 00:47:24,573
Speaker 2: it's you know, the sun's not evil and it's in

983
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:28,013
Speaker 2: its own right. In fact, obviously we're evolved outside, we're

984
00:47:28,013 --> 00:47:28,732
Speaker 2: supposed to be in it.

985
00:47:29,533 --> 00:47:32,252
Speaker 3: Get Andrew Gooday, how are you going?

986
00:47:32,573 --> 00:47:35,013
Speaker 4: Very good? So you've had regular mold checks, have you?

987
00:47:36,013 --> 00:47:36,212
Speaker 13: Yes?

988
00:47:36,293 --> 00:47:36,533
Speaker 2: I have.

989
00:47:36,853 --> 00:47:43,293
Speaker 14: I've had three in the last eighteen months after I

990
00:47:43,453 --> 00:47:50,533
Speaker 14: got diagnosed with a very early melanoma. And I couldn't

991
00:47:50,573 --> 00:47:54,853
Speaker 14: speak highly enough of the actual skin checks themselves. And

992
00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:58,053
Speaker 14: the original one was actually a gift from my mother

993
00:47:58,893 --> 00:48:01,253
Speaker 14: should know what to get me for Christmas one year,

994
00:48:01,333 --> 00:48:04,333
Speaker 14: so she decided to get our whole family mole met.

995
00:48:04,773 --> 00:48:06,172
Speaker 2: Is that good, honor?

996
00:48:06,253 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great prezy.

997
00:48:07,453 --> 00:48:11,373
Speaker 14: Y, Yeah, exactly. I couldn't speak highly enough of the process.

998
00:48:11,493 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 14: And you know what's better than the gift of life?

999
00:48:15,293 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 14: Basically could have saved my life with that one skin set.

1000
00:48:18,173 --> 00:48:22,173
Speaker 2: So Andrew, you got checked and they found some moles

1001
00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:24,933
Speaker 2: that were problematic and did they remove them.

1002
00:48:25,853 --> 00:48:29,732
Speaker 14: Yes, they did. They sent them off a biopsy. And

1003
00:48:29,773 --> 00:48:32,333
Speaker 14: what a lot of people don't realize is that once

1004
00:48:32,373 --> 00:48:35,133
Speaker 14: they take the mole off, they actually have to take

1005
00:48:35,173 --> 00:48:38,933
Speaker 14: a border around the mole as well. So your mom

1006
00:48:39,013 --> 00:48:41,652
Speaker 14: might only be sort of one or two centimeters, but

1007
00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:43,732
Speaker 14: they actually have to take a border right the way

1008
00:48:43,773 --> 00:48:46,493
Speaker 14: around a small molt and actually en up with quite

1009
00:48:46,533 --> 00:48:49,213
Speaker 14: a large scar. They're depending on the severity of the

1010
00:48:49,413 --> 00:48:50,373
Speaker 14: melanoma as well.

1011
00:48:51,013 --> 00:48:54,333
Speaker 2: And is that done under local anesthetic? That nipping that

1012
00:48:54,373 --> 00:48:55,893
Speaker 2: mole out in the area around it?

1013
00:48:56,933 --> 00:49:00,733
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, yeah, all the way you're awake. Not the

1014
00:49:00,733 --> 00:49:04,813
Speaker 14: most pleasant sort of feeling a small mole and yeah,

1015
00:49:04,893 --> 00:49:08,293
Speaker 14: get almost like a finger worth a flesh taken out

1016
00:49:08,413 --> 00:49:10,573
Speaker 14: sort of thing that, Yeah, and.

1017
00:49:10,413 --> 00:49:13,613
Speaker 2: Andrew, once they've found one, do they sort of put

1018
00:49:13,613 --> 00:49:16,333
Speaker 2: you on a list that you're more susceptible because of

1019
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:21,693
Speaker 2: course there's a genetic side to who's more susceptible to melanoma?

1020
00:49:21,853 --> 00:49:24,333
Speaker 2: So once they found one, do they encourage you to

1021
00:49:24,373 --> 00:49:26,133
Speaker 2: come in for regular checks?

1022
00:49:27,333 --> 00:49:27,573
Speaker 13: Yes?

1023
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:32,133
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, so I'm on a six monthly check and

1024
00:49:32,253 --> 00:49:36,253
Speaker 14: if there's anything suspicious, so I'll put you on possibly

1025
00:49:36,293 --> 00:49:38,652
Speaker 14: a three monthly check, just on that specific mile.

1026
00:49:39,293 --> 00:49:42,013
Speaker 2: And in your life, Andrew, were you an outdoor type?

1027
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:43,093
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1028
00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:47,813
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I'm a farmer. I'll work outdoors all year round,

1029
00:49:47,973 --> 00:49:50,692
Speaker 14: like I love the sun, but obviously put the fun

1030
00:49:50,773 --> 00:49:53,772
Speaker 14: rock and stuff like that on. But yeah, in my case,

1031
00:49:53,813 --> 00:49:56,493
Speaker 14: it wasn't enough. And like you said earlier, there is

1032
00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:59,813
Speaker 14: a genetic side to it. More surgeons said that there's

1033
00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:04,373
Speaker 14: actually a genetic gene that people are exposed to. And yeah,

1034
00:50:04,453 --> 00:50:07,853
Speaker 14: seems to be a lot more prevalent if you're exposed

1035
00:50:07,853 --> 00:50:08,413
Speaker 14: to that.

1036
00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:10,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm good on you. Was your mother in

1037
00:50:10,973 --> 00:50:13,773
Speaker 2: law that paid for all the mole mole maps?

1038
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:15,013
Speaker 15: No?

1039
00:50:14,893 --> 00:50:15,652
Speaker 14: No, my mother?

1040
00:50:15,813 --> 00:50:18,133
Speaker 2: Your mother? Oh good on your mother, good mum. You've

1041
00:50:18,173 --> 00:50:20,413
Speaker 2: got there, Andrew, and and please they found that one

1042
00:50:20,453 --> 00:50:22,933
Speaker 2: for you and nipped it out. That's good news. Think

1043
00:50:22,973 --> 00:50:25,893
Speaker 2: if you call Andrew the stick says, does it hurt

1044
00:50:25,933 --> 00:50:27,773
Speaker 2: to have areas of shade available for the public. You

1045
00:50:27,813 --> 00:50:29,853
Speaker 2: don't have to sit there. It does hurt because you

1046
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:32,533
Speaker 2: have to pay for them. So who pays? If your

1047
00:50:32,693 --> 00:50:36,293
Speaker 2: mandatory shade areas, then that has to be paid for

1048
00:50:36,413 --> 00:50:39,533
Speaker 2: by the taxpayer or rates. They're not just going to

1049
00:50:39,533 --> 00:50:40,653
Speaker 2: be put up for free.

1050
00:50:40,893 --> 00:50:41,533
Speaker 4: I'd prefer that.

1051
00:50:42,613 --> 00:50:44,133
Speaker 2: So there is some hurt from it.

1052
00:50:44,093 --> 00:50:46,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is. And if we're speaking about money, I'd

1053
00:50:46,093 --> 00:50:49,292
Speaker 4: prefer that money to go into subsidized mole checks because

1054
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:51,453
Speaker 4: it can be if you go private or go to

1055
00:50:51,453 --> 00:50:53,613
Speaker 4: one of those the mole maps or the mold chicks,

1056
00:50:53,613 --> 00:50:56,013
Speaker 4: it can be incredibly expensive. But love to hear from you.

1057
00:50:56,013 --> 00:50:58,013
Speaker 4: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Where does the

1058
00:50:58,053 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 4: balance lie between getting enough sun and being so smart

1059
00:51:02,373 --> 00:51:02,772
Speaker 4: as well?

1060
00:51:02,853 --> 00:51:05,212
Speaker 2: I'd love to get sunburned in Queenstown. So far only

1061
00:51:05,253 --> 00:51:07,253
Speaker 2: four days with no rain in September and so far

1062
00:51:07,413 --> 00:51:10,853
Speaker 2: six days of rain October. Enjoy your nice day in Auckland.

1063
00:51:11,053 --> 00:51:13,133
Speaker 4: Sorry to hear about that. In Queenstown beautiful place, but

1064
00:51:13,213 --> 00:51:14,172
Speaker 4: the sun will come back mate.

1065
00:51:14,453 --> 00:51:17,933
Speaker 2: To be fair, I got horrifically sunburned fig two weeks ago.

1066
00:51:18,053 --> 00:51:23,293
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised by that. It is twenty past two.

1067
00:51:24,453 --> 00:51:28,133
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1068
00:51:28,173 --> 00:51:29,773
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1069
00:51:30,453 --> 00:51:33,973
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you. It's twenty two past twelve two.

1070
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:37,333
Speaker 4: Rather so there's been a call for more mandatory shade,

1071
00:51:37,573 --> 00:51:40,733
Speaker 4: the banning of sun beds, and more regular mole checks

1072
00:51:40,733 --> 00:51:44,732
Speaker 4: to combat our rise in those diagnosed with melanoma each year.

1073
00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 2: Checks are essential, but it's so expensive. One hundred and

1074
00:51:47,893 --> 00:51:51,453
Speaker 2: eighty initial consultation at doctor, plus hundreds to remove special

1075
00:51:51,493 --> 00:51:55,013
Speaker 2: clinics come same again, cost seven hundred dollars in all

1076
00:51:55,053 --> 00:51:58,253
Speaker 2: to get their mole removed, and the same for my daughter.

1077
00:51:58,573 --> 00:52:01,853
Speaker 2: There is there are free mole checks out there, so

1078
00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:04,773
Speaker 2: Melanoma New Zealand, the good people at Melanoma New Zealand

1079
00:52:05,253 --> 00:52:08,293
Speaker 2: they have free spot checks around the country. For example,

1080
00:52:08,773 --> 00:52:13,693
Speaker 2: on you can go to Melanoma dot org dot in

1081
00:52:13,813 --> 00:52:15,533
Speaker 2: ZID to find out where they are and their little

1082
00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:20,413
Speaker 2: their little van free spot chicks. Melanova Education, Helensville. On

1083
00:52:20,453 --> 00:52:23,413
Speaker 2: October the twenty second, at ten thirty am. They're in

1084
00:52:23,893 --> 00:52:27,373
Speaker 2: Dunedin and the Meridian Mall at ten am on October

1085
00:52:27,413 --> 00:52:30,333
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth. On no November the third, they're in

1086
00:52:30,453 --> 00:52:31,453
Speaker 2: Friends Joseph.

1087
00:52:31,613 --> 00:52:33,772
Speaker 4: That's nice, nice, good place far Joe.

1088
00:52:33,813 --> 00:52:35,573
Speaker 2: They'd be a good, good little trip for Melano and

1089
00:52:35,573 --> 00:52:39,053
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Th heading up to Franny see the glacier beautiful.

1090
00:52:39,053 --> 00:52:42,692
Speaker 2: There's a rhyme about Frannie that I won't share. Free

1091
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:46,212
Speaker 2: spot chicks And they're in hok Teka on November the fourth.

1092
00:52:46,573 --> 00:52:48,652
Speaker 4: And p ha, Well they're up and down the carve,

1093
00:52:48,813 --> 00:52:49,613
Speaker 4: get around, don't they.

1094
00:52:49,693 --> 00:52:51,173
Speaker 2: There must be more than one van this cant with

1095
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 2: the same.

1096
00:52:51,653 --> 00:52:53,652
Speaker 4: Surely that's a that's a big trip in twenty four hours.

1097
00:52:53,693 --> 00:52:55,453
Speaker 2: So ten thirty am and Nova the first. So go

1098
00:52:55,533 --> 00:52:57,133
Speaker 2: to you know, like if you want to get a

1099
00:52:57,653 --> 00:52:58,853
Speaker 2: you know, if you're worried and you want to get

1100
00:52:58,893 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 2: a free chick, then go to Melanoma dot org dot

1101
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:03,692
Speaker 2: in z. They might be able to help you out.

1102
00:53:03,773 --> 00:53:05,533
Speaker 4: That is a great Oh. E one hundred and eighty

1103
00:53:05,813 --> 00:53:07,613
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call.

1104
00:53:07,653 --> 00:53:08,813
Speaker 2: Bob welcome the shape.

1105
00:53:10,373 --> 00:53:13,973
Speaker 16: Yeah, hi guys, Yeah, I'm a little first flash about

1106
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:20,333
Speaker 16: you advocating these mull check the Allsworth more mapping. How

1107
00:53:20,373 --> 00:53:23,333
Speaker 16: many people in New Zealand do you really think can

1108
00:53:23,373 --> 00:53:25,692
Speaker 16: afford to do that? And you've just been on.

1109
00:53:25,693 --> 00:53:30,933
Speaker 2: About most I imagine people, Sorry, most probably, but unfortunately

1110
00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:32,773
Speaker 2: some wouldn't be able to do which is unfortunate. But

1111
00:53:32,813 --> 00:53:33,333
Speaker 2: most would be.

1112
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:35,692
Speaker 16: Yeah, we can afford it.

1113
00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:38,172
Speaker 2: Most, I would say, But unfortunately I get your point

1114
00:53:38,213 --> 00:53:38,933
Speaker 2: that some can't.

1115
00:53:40,933 --> 00:53:44,413
Speaker 16: I would say most can't. You're talking four hundred dollars

1116
00:53:44,573 --> 00:53:47,853
Speaker 16: for your first checker. Where are you coming from?

1117
00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:50,413
Speaker 2: Well, hang on a minute, Bob, you can, As I

1118
00:53:50,413 --> 00:53:52,893
Speaker 2: was just saying before, there is a Melanoma dot org

1119
00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:55,733
Speaker 2: dot in z that if you go there you can

1120
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:58,013
Speaker 2: find out where they are for free multics.

1121
00:53:59,413 --> 00:54:02,093
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, so you jump in your car and drive

1122
00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 16: three or four hundred miles.

1123
00:54:03,653 --> 00:54:05,853
Speaker 2: No, No, you wait until you go to the site

1124
00:54:05,853 --> 00:54:07,533
Speaker 2: and you look at the calendar, and then you find

1125
00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:09,333
Speaker 2: out when they're in your area. They get all over

1126
00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:09,853
Speaker 2: the country.

1127
00:54:11,253 --> 00:54:15,453
Speaker 16: Yeah. Well, you just advocating a few moments ago where

1128
00:54:15,453 --> 00:54:17,933
Speaker 16: you were in some place and you got very badly bad.

1129
00:54:18,613 --> 00:54:22,973
Speaker 16: Yeah you should be a bit smarter than that, shouldn't it.

1130
00:54:23,373 --> 00:54:23,573
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1131
00:54:23,653 --> 00:54:25,813
Speaker 2: No, but maybe I should be, But I didn't say

1132
00:54:25,813 --> 00:54:27,933
Speaker 2: I was smart getting sun burnt. I said that I

1133
00:54:27,973 --> 00:54:28,453
Speaker 2: got some bad.

1134
00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 16: The thing you should be advocating is people get some

1135
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:35,293
Speaker 16: but a little bit often.

1136
00:54:37,293 --> 00:54:39,373
Speaker 2: You can. You can, you can advocate what you want.

1137
00:54:39,653 --> 00:54:40,973
Speaker 2: I'll advocate what I want. Bob.

1138
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:46,373
Speaker 16: Well, that's fair enough, but don't give that information looks ridiculous.

1139
00:54:46,693 --> 00:54:48,053
Speaker 2: No, I might. I'll do that as well if I

1140
00:54:48,093 --> 00:54:50,333
Speaker 2: feel like it. Bob. Thank you for your call.

1141
00:54:50,413 --> 00:54:52,133
Speaker 4: Thank you. I mean, it's a question on where the

1142
00:54:52,173 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 4: balance is right, because it's critically important there all we're.

1143
00:54:56,333 --> 00:54:58,493
Speaker 2: Asking the question off here on eight hundred and eighty

1144
00:54:58,493 --> 00:55:05,853
Speaker 2: three eight hundred. That's Pizza always saying. Here is where

1145
00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:09,293
Speaker 2: do we find the balance between the absolute benefits of

1146
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:14,693
Speaker 2: getting out into the sun and experiencing the nature and

1147
00:55:14,813 --> 00:55:17,093
Speaker 2: sport and getting out there and getting that vitamin D

1148
00:55:17,253 --> 00:55:19,732
Speaker 2: for our mental health and for our bones and all

1149
00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:23,973
Speaker 2: those other things, fatigue and it helps with the risk

1150
00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:27,093
Speaker 2: of infection, muscle strength, everything. How do we balance that

1151
00:55:27,133 --> 00:55:30,333
Speaker 2: with the risks of melanober. That's what we're talking about.

1152
00:55:30,133 --> 00:55:32,733
Speaker 4: Oka and OK, Bob, I didn't think Bob, four hundred

1153
00:55:32,773 --> 00:55:35,053
Speaker 4: dollars if you get one a year, I mean, like,

1154
00:55:35,133 --> 00:55:37,253
Speaker 4: this is your health. You're talking about the number of

1155
00:55:37,253 --> 00:55:39,172
Speaker 4: times that you'd go to a GP over the course

1156
00:55:39,173 --> 00:55:40,652
Speaker 4: of a year, I imagine would be more than four

1157
00:55:40,693 --> 00:55:42,453
Speaker 4: hundred bucks. And I get as a one off that

1158
00:55:42,533 --> 00:55:43,933
Speaker 4: might be a bit of money, but if you save

1159
00:55:44,013 --> 00:55:46,413
Speaker 4: over the course of a year, and again, this is

1160
00:55:46,413 --> 00:55:49,013
Speaker 4: about your health. And the first time I did it,

1161
00:55:49,093 --> 00:55:50,373
Speaker 4: that was a lot of money for me. But I

1162
00:55:50,413 --> 00:55:52,093
Speaker 4: got it done and they said, you're all good, we'll

1163
00:55:52,093 --> 00:55:54,733
Speaker 4: see you back in twelve months. Try and stay so smart.

1164
00:55:54,733 --> 00:55:56,893
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's that controversial. But thank you

1165
00:55:56,973 --> 00:55:58,013
Speaker 4: very much, David.

1166
00:55:58,013 --> 00:55:58,692
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1167
00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:02,172
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, how you doing very well?

1168
00:56:03,613 --> 00:56:06,813
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, you guys are talking about.

1169
00:56:07,133 --> 00:56:11,333
Speaker 17: Yes exactly, Yeah, yeah, I just dived into the conversation

1170
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:13,573
Speaker 17: about ten minutes ago until I give you a ring,

1171
00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:19,213
Speaker 17: a bit of a downus story really, but probably just

1172
00:56:19,373 --> 00:56:22,173
Speaker 17: encourage your listeners to really get into.

1173
00:56:22,013 --> 00:56:24,693
Speaker 15: Those mole maps or if they see anything weird with

1174
00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:27,133
Speaker 15: any moles, just to get them checked out by the

1175
00:56:27,173 --> 00:56:31,373
Speaker 15: GP as soon as they can. The reason why I

1176
00:56:31,413 --> 00:56:34,133
Speaker 15: say that is my GP picked up what they call

1177
00:56:34,173 --> 00:56:39,373
Speaker 15: an ugly mole twelve months ago, and twelve months down

1178
00:56:39,373 --> 00:56:41,933
Speaker 15: the track, almost to the day, I now have stage

1179
00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:45,573
Speaker 15: four melanoma with the life expectancy of less than twelve months.

1180
00:56:45,813 --> 00:56:49,652
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm sorry, sorry to hear that. So talk

1181
00:56:49,773 --> 00:56:53,933
Speaker 2: talk us through. You know how this all came about, David,

1182
00:56:53,933 --> 00:56:54,653
Speaker 2: if you don't mind.

1183
00:56:55,613 --> 00:57:01,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I've always had moles, as many of us do,

1184
00:57:01,133 --> 00:57:03,453
Speaker 15: I guess. And look, I don't spend a lot of

1185
00:57:03,453 --> 00:57:06,812
Speaker 15: time out in the sun, you know, doing the line

1186
00:57:06,853 --> 00:57:09,133
Speaker 15: the lawns or whatever. In fact, a lot of the

1187
00:57:09,173 --> 00:57:11,333
Speaker 15: time I wear jeans, so I'm not really a great

1188
00:57:11,453 --> 00:57:14,613
Speaker 15: Sunday The day's touch and Fritz Moole was on my

1189
00:57:14,693 --> 00:57:18,733
Speaker 15: knee on my thigh, sort of into my knee area,

1190
00:57:19,093 --> 00:57:21,493
Speaker 15: and about a year ago I knocked it doing something

1191
00:57:21,493 --> 00:57:25,373
Speaker 15: around the farm and it started to bleed for about

1192
00:57:25,373 --> 00:57:29,133
Speaker 15: five days. A typical sort of bloke. You just put

1193
00:57:29,133 --> 00:57:32,573
Speaker 15: a band note over it and forget it. And later

1194
00:57:32,613 --> 00:57:37,333
Speaker 15: on in the year November did the same thing. And

1195
00:57:37,373 --> 00:57:38,973
Speaker 15: then my wife gave me a bit of a bit

1196
00:57:39,013 --> 00:57:40,853
Speaker 15: of a hurry up and see, go on to the

1197
00:57:40,893 --> 00:57:43,733
Speaker 15: doctor and get that looked at. So I did that

1198
00:57:44,933 --> 00:57:47,093
Speaker 15: just because of the wait list was the doctor took

1199
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Speaker 15: a few.

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Speaker 6: Weeks to get there.

1201
00:57:49,013 --> 00:57:51,693
Speaker 15: Got into her on the city first of December, and

1202
00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:53,893
Speaker 15: she took one look of it and said, look, I

1203
00:57:53,933 --> 00:57:56,613
Speaker 15: think that's going over. We better get it taken out.

1204
00:57:57,973 --> 00:58:00,053
Speaker 15: So they worked as quickly as they can and I've

1205
00:58:00,093 --> 00:58:03,133
Speaker 15: got nothing but credit for my local GP people for

1206
00:58:03,133 --> 00:58:06,053
Speaker 15: a week in real quick. So they got me in

1207
00:58:06,053 --> 00:58:09,173
Speaker 15: front of the right people and took it. That was

1208
00:58:09,293 --> 00:58:12,653
Speaker 15: early February this year, I think the February, and it

1209
00:58:12,733 --> 00:58:17,133
Speaker 15: came back as confirmed melanoma and at that stage stage three,

1210
00:58:18,413 --> 00:58:23,173
Speaker 15: so that the cancer was clear and it had started

1211
00:58:23,213 --> 00:58:26,933
Speaker 15: to sort of the spread. So they thought, well, I'll

1212
00:58:26,933 --> 00:58:29,693
Speaker 15: send me along for a scan to see where it is.

1213
00:58:30,573 --> 00:58:32,853
Speaker 15: And as a result of that scan they found it

1214
00:58:32,973 --> 00:58:35,933
Speaker 15: in my limp, with my lymphatic system and the brain.

1215
00:58:37,253 --> 00:58:38,893
Speaker 15: In the space of just a few months, that had

1216
00:58:38,933 --> 00:58:42,133
Speaker 15: gone from a mole on my knee and now cancer

1217
00:58:42,293 --> 00:58:45,893
Speaker 15: within my lomph nodes. But they did some more surgery

1218
00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:49,253
Speaker 15: in March sort of the end of March this year,

1219
00:58:50,293 --> 00:58:53,373
Speaker 15: poked around, dug out a few looph nodes, sent me

1220
00:58:53,413 --> 00:58:58,093
Speaker 15: away for testing and confirmed yet again that you're definitely

1221
00:58:58,173 --> 00:59:01,613
Speaker 15: staged three melanoma, which you guys have already quoted the numbers.

1222
00:59:01,653 --> 00:59:05,813
Speaker 15: I think it's about eighty or ninety tenth survivals. Everything

1223
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:11,293
Speaker 15: was looking good, they thought sort of referred me on

1224
00:59:11,413 --> 00:59:13,853
Speaker 15: to sort of other specialists and have looked into it.

1225
00:59:14,773 --> 00:59:19,653
Speaker 15: And at that stage the government was looking at subsidding

1226
00:59:20,613 --> 00:59:24,133
Speaker 15: some cancer treatment called the Truiter, which is one of

1227
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:26,733
Speaker 15: the sort of main go to drugs that up until

1228
00:59:26,773 --> 00:59:30,293
Speaker 15: this year were costing US about one hundred brand a

1229
00:59:30,333 --> 00:59:34,373
Speaker 15: year to pay for self fund that the government in

1230
00:59:34,493 --> 00:59:39,453
Speaker 15: June then funded that through pharmac So I was really lucky.

1231
00:59:39,493 --> 00:59:44,413
Speaker 15: I got into the the Truiter program in July August

1232
00:59:44,453 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 15: this year, had a couple of rounds of treatments, and

1233
00:59:48,773 --> 00:59:52,413
Speaker 15: my oncologists then sent me along to another scan just

1234
00:59:52,493 --> 00:59:54,413
Speaker 15: to do a follow up see how things were going.

1235
00:59:55,373 --> 00:59:57,933
Speaker 15: And that was about three weeks ago, and it's come

1236
00:59:57,973 --> 01:00:02,053
Speaker 15: back that the count cancer is now through my spine

1237
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,413
Speaker 15: and possibly starting to get into the liver, although they're

1238
01:00:06,413 --> 01:00:10,293
Speaker 15: not one hundred percent certain about that. Now plasified as

1239
01:00:10,453 --> 01:00:14,413
Speaker 15: now I name the stage four insurable with the life

1240
01:00:14,413 --> 01:00:18,133
Speaker 15: expectancy of about world made so from the time of

1241
01:00:18,213 --> 01:00:21,933
Speaker 15: first noticing a mole that was bleeding, so essentially getting

1242
01:00:21,973 --> 01:00:26,533
Speaker 15: a descent death sentence really really quick. It's a nasty

1243
01:00:26,613 --> 01:00:30,533
Speaker 15: cancer and I just encourage anyone who's got any doubt

1244
01:00:31,493 --> 01:00:33,893
Speaker 15: just to get onto it really quickly because it is

1245
01:00:33,933 --> 01:00:38,133
Speaker 15: definitely life threatening and once it starts discreet, there's no control.

1246
01:00:38,813 --> 01:00:41,293
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean, there's no words to really say that

1247
01:00:41,373 --> 01:00:45,613
Speaker 2: we can say to you, David, except for you know,

1248
01:00:46,333 --> 01:00:51,013
Speaker 2: heart goes out out to you and your family. Now

1249
01:00:51,333 --> 01:00:56,413
Speaker 2: with with the situation is, have they said anything about

1250
01:00:56,453 --> 01:01:00,853
Speaker 2: how long it was in a you know, I guess

1251
01:01:00,893 --> 01:01:04,013
Speaker 2: for one a better word dangerous state that particular mole.

1252
01:01:05,973 --> 01:01:09,413
Speaker 15: It's it's really hard to say, you know, I'll say,

1253
01:01:09,693 --> 01:01:13,253
Speaker 15: you know, when I got to my GP eventually, which

1254
01:01:13,333 --> 01:01:16,893
Speaker 15: was at right at the end of last year, so

1255
01:01:16,933 --> 01:01:19,413
Speaker 15: the model on my leg had sort of been bleeding

1256
01:01:19,453 --> 01:01:22,213
Speaker 15: a couple of times, and it looked like I had

1257
01:01:22,253 --> 01:01:24,613
Speaker 15: a lesion that was growing up through it. To be

1258
01:01:24,733 --> 01:01:28,133
Speaker 15: fear guys, it wasn't big. It was only about four

1259
01:01:28,173 --> 01:01:32,293
Speaker 15: miles in diameters, so it wasn't huge, and it hadn't

1260
01:01:32,333 --> 01:01:34,453
Speaker 15: even gone through the skin layer. It's one point eight

1261
01:01:34,493 --> 01:01:40,493
Speaker 15: miles deep, where normally they look at melanomas that are

1262
01:01:40,493 --> 01:01:43,613
Speaker 15: sort of grown in depth as opposed to spreading across

1263
01:01:43,653 --> 01:01:47,693
Speaker 15: the screen across the skin. So there's two types. One

1264
01:01:47,733 --> 01:01:50,693
Speaker 15: goes across the skin and the other goes deep. It

1265
01:01:50,733 --> 01:01:53,573
Speaker 15: goes into the skin mine was that they can formed.

1266
01:01:53,573 --> 01:01:56,453
Speaker 15: There's a special name for it, nodula or something like that,

1267
01:01:57,573 --> 01:02:00,173
Speaker 15: and normally it's not life until it gets to about

1268
01:02:00,173 --> 01:02:03,173
Speaker 15: four mills stick, so it's starting to bust through the

1269
01:02:03,213 --> 01:02:06,813
Speaker 15: skin layer and go into the fat layer of the musclins.

1270
01:02:07,053 --> 01:02:10,933
Speaker 15: Forth minded hadn't even hadn't even gone that deep, and

1271
01:02:11,053 --> 01:02:15,173
Speaker 15: yet it became life threatening very very quickly. They sort

1272
01:02:15,173 --> 01:02:18,653
Speaker 15: of say that on the time it's identified to the

1273
01:02:18,653 --> 01:02:21,293
Speaker 15: potential risks like we all do, we all do our

1274
01:02:21,293 --> 01:02:25,013
Speaker 15: own research, they say about eight weeks and it can

1275
01:02:25,053 --> 01:02:30,213
Speaker 15: become life threatening. And it's just really unfortunate the delays

1276
01:02:30,253 --> 01:02:32,893
Speaker 15: that you get to get treatment, or to get into

1277
01:02:32,933 --> 01:02:36,853
Speaker 15: your GP, or to get specialist treatment. You know that

1278
01:02:37,093 --> 01:02:40,293
Speaker 15: that can mean the difference between life and death. But

1279
01:02:40,413 --> 01:02:45,253
Speaker 15: really for me, certainly not looking for sympathy, but essentially

1280
01:02:45,333 --> 01:02:47,933
Speaker 15: saying that you know, if in doubt, go and get

1281
01:02:47,973 --> 01:02:50,813
Speaker 15: that mold, you know, don't get it seen to if

1282
01:02:50,853 --> 01:02:55,213
Speaker 15: anything looks really unusual. You know, one of your cause

1283
01:02:55,373 --> 01:02:59,133
Speaker 15: was raising the issue over cost. Well, people will make

1284
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:01,853
Speaker 15: their own decision on that, but you know, for the

1285
01:03:01,853 --> 01:03:03,693
Speaker 15: cost of a few hundred bucks to go and get

1286
01:03:04,053 --> 01:03:06,853
Speaker 15: mole and ugly mole, something that looks different kicked out,

1287
01:03:07,173 --> 01:03:10,533
Speaker 15: I think, well ath while even to get the GP

1288
01:03:10,693 --> 01:03:11,613
Speaker 15: to take a look at it.

1289
01:03:11,533 --> 01:03:14,213
Speaker 2: You know, so you see, when you went to the GP,

1290
01:03:15,813 --> 01:03:20,173
Speaker 2: they pretty quickly thought that this was an issue. So

1291
01:03:20,733 --> 01:03:23,413
Speaker 2: you know, at the very basic you're saying, David, if

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01:03:23,413 --> 01:03:26,453
Speaker 2: you're concerned about something, then your GP's probably got a

1293
01:03:26,453 --> 01:03:28,533
Speaker 2: good chance of spotting if it's something bad and sending

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01:03:28,573 --> 01:03:30,573
Speaker 2: you on to further further investigation.

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01:03:33,013 --> 01:03:36,773
Speaker 15: And obviously I can't speak for all gps, but skin

1296
01:03:36,853 --> 01:03:41,253
Speaker 15: cancer in New Zealander at high risk because of our

1297
01:03:41,293 --> 01:03:44,853
Speaker 15: lifestyle and the utensity of the sub our GPS are

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01:03:44,853 --> 01:03:48,773
Speaker 15: pretty well versed and identifying these things pretty quickly. That

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01:03:48,853 --> 01:03:51,773
Speaker 15: doesn't mean that they'll give you a confirmed diagnosis on it,

1300
01:03:52,613 --> 01:03:54,893
Speaker 15: but they certainly know the things to look for. And

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01:03:54,973 --> 01:03:58,133
Speaker 15: in my case, I was very very lucky that I've

1302
01:03:58,173 --> 01:04:00,213
Speaker 15: got a you know, a GP that was onto it

1303
01:04:00,773 --> 01:04:05,173
Speaker 15: and really didn't luck around, and she referred me to

1304
01:04:05,173 --> 01:04:08,573
Speaker 15: to you know, one of their local practitioners as that

1305
01:04:08,693 --> 01:04:12,693
Speaker 15: could do the initial surgery and remove the mold to

1306
01:04:12,773 --> 01:04:16,773
Speaker 15: it to be confirmed what it was and the process.

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01:04:17,733 --> 01:04:22,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, yeah, well, thank you so much

1308
01:04:22,653 --> 01:04:27,493
Speaker 2: for sharing your story mate, and and you know, best

1309
01:04:27,493 --> 01:04:31,653
Speaker 2: wishes to you and your family, and I just I

1310
01:04:31,693 --> 01:04:34,013
Speaker 2: think it's great and it really sort of shows that

1311
01:04:34,053 --> 01:04:36,333
Speaker 2: stark balance that we've got to find in our country

1312
01:04:36,573 --> 01:04:39,453
Speaker 2: about wanting to be out and be that very New

1313
01:04:39,573 --> 01:04:43,173
Speaker 2: Zealand outdoor person and you know, and the risk that

1314
01:04:43,253 --> 01:04:45,733
Speaker 2: comes with with with the sun for that, it's a

1315
01:04:46,253 --> 01:04:50,333
Speaker 2: sort of complicated balance. But mate, thanks, thanks so much

1316
01:04:50,333 --> 01:04:52,493
Speaker 2: forringing in. It's some very humbling to talk to you,

1317
01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:53,253
Speaker 2: and thank you so much.

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01:04:54,213 --> 01:04:56,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's still look and great topics.

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01:04:58,053 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 4: Likewise, David, thank you very much. And I'm sure there

1320
01:05:00,013 --> 01:05:02,653
Speaker 4: be a lot of people listening to David's story and

1321
01:05:02,733 --> 01:05:05,453
Speaker 4: hopefully if they see something a bit untoward, go and

1322
01:05:05,493 --> 01:05:07,573
Speaker 4: speak to your doctor. A great message from David. It

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Speaker 4: is twenty four three.

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Speaker 11: Wow news talks be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

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Speaker 11: reaching three percent annually to September, are unlikely to change

1327
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Speaker 11: ocr again next month. Police are hunting Jeremy Robertson as

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Speaker 11: they investigate an alleged homicide at Pahia two last Wednesday.

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Speaker 11: Police are asking for any sightings of Robertson driving Arit

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Speaker 11: killed after a cargo plane skidded off a runway at

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Speaker 11: Hong Kong International Airport, landing in the ocean. The flight

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Speaker 11: was arriving from Dubai shortly before four am Local time

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Speaker 11: person's died after being found unconscious in a body of

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Speaker 11: water on Brown's Road in Northlands Kaikohe This morning powers

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Speaker 2: Back to Matteeth and Tyler Adams.

1345
01:06:26,293 --> 01:06:27,093
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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01:06:27,133 --> 01:06:27,413
Speaker 3: Rayllan.

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01:06:27,493 --> 01:06:30,253
Speaker 4: We're having a discussion about where the balance lies between

1348
01:06:30,293 --> 01:06:33,973
Speaker 4: getting vitamin C and dumb sun, which is incredibly important

1349
01:06:33,973 --> 01:06:37,093
Speaker 4: for our vitamin D, Vitamin D, no doubt about it.

1350
01:06:37,413 --> 01:06:39,933
Speaker 4: And then versus clearly we do have a high rate

1351
01:06:40,013 --> 01:06:43,213
Speaker 4: of skin cancer and melanoma in this country. So it's

1352
01:06:43,253 --> 01:06:46,413
Speaker 4: that balance there. Because sun is vital for us as

1353
01:06:46,453 --> 01:06:49,453
Speaker 4: human beings, no doubt about it. Study after study would

1354
01:06:49,493 --> 01:06:52,213
Speaker 4: show that those countries that have very little sun have

1355
01:06:52,293 --> 01:06:54,133
Speaker 4: a far lower life expeciency.

1356
01:06:54,213 --> 01:06:57,013
Speaker 2: It's terrible for your mental health and vitamin D is

1357
01:06:57,053 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 2: crucial for bone, houth, immune function, muscle strength. You know

1358
01:07:01,493 --> 01:07:04,293
Speaker 2: low vitamin D levels which you get vitamin D from

1359
01:07:04,573 --> 01:07:08,333
Speaker 2: having skin. You know, sun on your skin as linkedostriprocess depression, fatigue.

1360
01:07:08,533 --> 01:07:10,333
Speaker 2: We all know that sitting in your room is bad

1361
01:07:10,333 --> 01:07:13,693
Speaker 2: for you, and yet we hear those heartbreaking story from

1362
01:07:14,093 --> 01:07:16,613
Speaker 2: David on the other side of it and how risky

1363
01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:19,653
Speaker 2: the sun in New Zealand is, And especially interesting with

1364
01:07:19,733 --> 01:07:22,133
Speaker 2: David because he wasn't really an outdoor sun guy. He

1365
01:07:22,133 --> 01:07:24,933
Speaker 2: mowed the lawns and his jeans, he wasn't a sunbathing

1366
01:07:25,013 --> 01:07:30,893
Speaker 2: type and it's still still got him. Yeah, this is text.

1367
01:07:30,893 --> 01:07:35,373
Speaker 2: Here is a lesson to check self check before Yes,

1368
01:07:36,293 --> 01:07:37,733
Speaker 2: got a schelf check. But yeah, this is the text

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01:07:37,773 --> 01:07:39,093
Speaker 2: I want to read, David. I'm going to the GP

1370
01:07:39,173 --> 01:07:42,173
Speaker 2: now to make an appointment, thank you. So that's the

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01:07:42,253 --> 01:07:45,453
Speaker 2: thing that David was saying that your GP, if you

1372
01:07:45,453 --> 01:07:47,173
Speaker 2: go to your GP, if you're worried about a mole

1373
01:07:47,213 --> 01:07:48,973
Speaker 2: at all, you go to your GP, and they've got

1374
01:07:48,973 --> 01:07:50,573
Speaker 2: a good chance of being I mean a very good

1375
01:07:50,613 --> 01:07:52,093
Speaker 2: chance they know what they're looking for to go and

1376
01:07:52,093 --> 01:07:53,733
Speaker 2: say does this need to be further?

1377
01:07:53,973 --> 01:07:55,813
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and it sends you to a specialist.

1378
01:07:55,813 --> 01:07:58,173
Speaker 2: So that's not going to bankrupt you going to the GP,

1379
01:07:58,573 --> 01:08:01,133
Speaker 2: you know, to get get a mole looked at, right,

1380
01:08:01,533 --> 01:08:04,453
Speaker 2: and then if they're worried, then whatever money it costs

1381
01:08:04,453 --> 01:08:05,973
Speaker 2: after that, then it's going to be worth it, right.

1382
01:08:05,973 --> 01:08:08,293
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. It's just self awareness. Oh one hundred

1383
01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:10,373
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call though, can

1384
01:08:10,453 --> 01:08:12,693
Speaker 4: you get your thoughts on getting that balance right? And

1385
01:08:12,693 --> 01:08:13,333
Speaker 4: how often you.

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01:08:13,253 --> 01:08:15,293
Speaker 2: Go for a check the sticks is that call blows

1387
01:08:15,293 --> 01:08:18,492
Speaker 2: your no shade bullshit, No it doesn't at all. Text

1388
01:08:18,532 --> 01:08:22,572
Speaker 2: it this really annoys me. So the idea that staying

1389
01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:26,213
Speaker 2: that we need to be reasonably sensible potentially around the sun, right,

1390
01:08:27,173 --> 01:08:29,772
Speaker 2: but then again you can be and that can still happen.

1391
01:08:30,053 --> 01:08:32,452
Speaker 2: That then that the next step is that we have

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01:08:32,572 --> 01:08:34,973
Speaker 2: mandatory shades that have to be paid for by the

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01:08:34,973 --> 01:08:39,132
Speaker 2: taxpayers and public areas or rate payers. It's a huge,

1394
01:08:39,572 --> 01:08:41,772
Speaker 2: huge step. I mean, first of all, you want to

1395
01:08:41,853 --> 01:08:45,013
Speaker 2: educate people, right yep, that of the risks, and so

1396
01:08:45,333 --> 01:08:47,412
Speaker 2: there is a balance. But every time we have these

1397
01:08:47,452 --> 01:08:51,772
Speaker 2: you know, moralizing about this, and you have these kind

1398
01:08:51,772 --> 01:08:54,372
Speaker 2: of faux moral hysterical outrages that are coming through on

1399
01:08:54,412 --> 01:08:56,612
Speaker 2: the text machine because you're having a discussion about it

1400
01:08:56,652 --> 01:09:00,892
Speaker 2: because something really tragic happened to someone. I mean, there's

1401
01:09:00,933 --> 01:09:03,013
Speaker 2: there's got to be there's there's a balance, which is

1402
01:09:03,013 --> 01:09:06,372
Speaker 2: the whole point of the conversation. But just I find

1403
01:09:06,372 --> 01:09:09,492
Speaker 2: it frustrating that people are just one one way or

1404
01:09:09,492 --> 01:09:10,492
Speaker 2: one hundred percent the other way.

1405
01:09:10,532 --> 01:09:12,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of nuance in this discussion. And again,

1406
01:09:13,013 --> 01:09:15,412
Speaker 4: you know, if we want to talk about deaths and

1407
01:09:15,812 --> 01:09:17,812
Speaker 4: relation to the sun, you can go the other other

1408
01:09:17,893 --> 01:09:21,293
Speaker 4: side of the equation where in places like Iceland and

1409
01:09:21,333 --> 01:09:24,012
Speaker 4: places like Norway at the top where they get very little,

1410
01:09:24,013 --> 01:09:26,452
Speaker 4: so the life expectancy is a lot lower and their

1411
01:09:26,492 --> 01:09:29,892
Speaker 4: mental health is considerably worse. The suicide rate and a

1412
01:09:29,893 --> 01:09:32,812
Speaker 4: place like Iceland is terrible. So that is the other

1413
01:09:32,853 --> 01:09:34,772
Speaker 4: side of the equation, and I know that's taken it

1414
01:09:34,812 --> 01:09:37,013
Speaker 4: to extreme, but the point is there's nuance here in

1415
01:09:37,013 --> 01:09:37,612
Speaker 4: that discussion.

1416
01:09:37,652 --> 01:09:41,173
Speaker 2: If the hysteria that comes through, you would think that

1417
01:09:41,253 --> 01:09:43,492
Speaker 2: the only option was to pull the curtains and sit

1418
01:09:43,532 --> 01:09:45,293
Speaker 2: in your room in the dark, and that's bad for you.

1419
01:09:45,452 --> 01:09:46,972
Speaker 2: That's really under the covers.

1420
01:09:47,013 --> 01:09:49,452
Speaker 4: Don't do that. That's bad for your health't.

1421
01:09:48,853 --> 01:09:51,812
Speaker 2: We live in a world where you have to get

1422
01:09:51,812 --> 01:09:54,052
Speaker 2: out and do some stuff if you want to stay sane.

1423
01:09:54,093 --> 01:09:56,452
Speaker 4: We got plenty of calls coming through on people who

1424
01:09:56,532 --> 01:09:59,892
Speaker 4: have got checked up, so that is coming back very shortly.

1425
01:09:59,933 --> 01:10:00,932
Speaker 4: It is seventeen to three.

1426
01:10:01,053 --> 01:10:02,852
Speaker 2: Some of these texts are coming through from under the

1427
01:10:02,893 --> 01:10:05,772
Speaker 2: covers and bunkers deep below the earth, hiding from the sun.

1428
01:10:05,853 --> 01:10:10,853
Speaker 1: Get outside, Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon

1429
01:10:10,933 --> 01:10:14,892
Speaker 1: rolls on. Matt Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons used talks, they'd

1430
01:10:14,973 --> 01:10:15,492
Speaker 1: be We're a.

1431
01:10:15,492 --> 01:10:18,052
Speaker 4: Good afternoon cheo. So we're talking about the balance between

1432
01:10:18,093 --> 01:10:22,572
Speaker 4: getting enough sun and being so smart as well. There

1433
01:10:22,572 --> 01:10:25,772
Speaker 4: has been calls for a few different policy changes to

1434
01:10:25,812 --> 01:10:27,612
Speaker 4: be made, but do we really need it? Is it

1435
01:10:27,692 --> 01:10:30,053
Speaker 4: just about education? And perhaps there's a lot of people

1436
01:10:30,093 --> 01:10:32,893
Speaker 4: are coming through organizing a mold check. Are going to

1437
01:10:32,893 --> 01:10:35,133
Speaker 4: see your doctor and having that conversation once a year,

1438
01:10:35,452 --> 01:10:35,852
Speaker 4: only two.

1439
01:10:35,812 --> 01:10:39,732
Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty dollars had a skin specialist. If someone's

1440
01:10:39,772 --> 01:10:41,892
Speaker 2: charging you four hundred dollars, as the call is said,

1441
01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,173
Speaker 2: they need to shop around. Good to know, and much

1442
01:10:44,213 --> 01:10:47,812
Speaker 2: cheaper than that to go to your GP.

1443
01:10:48,093 --> 01:10:50,013
Speaker 4: Yeah for a lock yep. Absolutely.

1444
01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:51,932
Speaker 2: You know, if you see something that you're worried about,

1445
01:10:52,013 --> 01:10:55,053
Speaker 2: then you know what's the same. Don't die of embarrassment.

1446
01:10:55,652 --> 01:10:57,253
Speaker 2: A lot of people in New Zealand we don't want

1447
01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:59,732
Speaker 2: to make a fuss, so when something happens, we gore

1448
01:10:59,772 --> 01:11:04,133
Speaker 2: and it's probably nothing but the best possible results. You

1449
01:11:04,173 --> 01:11:05,293
Speaker 2: go to the doctor. Go that's nothing.

1450
01:11:05,372 --> 01:11:07,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you don't lose anything from that.

1451
01:11:08,053 --> 01:11:10,093
Speaker 2: Really, can you really be embarrassed in front of a

1452
01:11:10,093 --> 01:11:12,652
Speaker 2: doctor the stuff they get up to? It was, that's

1453
01:11:12,652 --> 01:11:15,652
Speaker 2: amazing that doctors are respected in our community with where

1454
01:11:15,652 --> 01:11:16,612
Speaker 2: they're poking and looking.

1455
01:11:16,692 --> 01:11:19,572
Speaker 4: Oh, they see a lot of things, that's for sure. Glenn.

1456
01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:20,852
Speaker 4: How are you this afternoon?

1457
01:11:22,372 --> 01:11:22,812
Speaker 15: How's the game?

1458
01:11:22,973 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1459
01:11:23,372 --> 01:11:23,572
Speaker 6: Good?

1460
01:11:23,732 --> 01:11:24,693
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling.

1461
01:11:25,532 --> 01:11:29,333
Speaker 12: Good good, No worries. Yeah, I agree with you on

1462
01:11:29,412 --> 01:11:35,532
Speaker 12: your comment about having had sun shade net through frulls.

1463
01:11:35,572 --> 01:11:40,012
Speaker 12: You know, I've got off headskin cancer remove this year,

1464
01:11:41,053 --> 01:11:45,892
Speaker 12: and I work out doors and I've always been.

1465
01:11:45,732 --> 01:11:46,852
Speaker 6: Pretty careful yep.

1466
01:11:47,133 --> 01:11:49,372
Speaker 12: But I still spent a lot of time driving characters

1467
01:11:49,372 --> 01:11:51,732
Speaker 12: for a contractor and it was my driving hand that

1468
01:11:51,812 --> 01:11:55,572
Speaker 12: was on top of the steering wheel scar clmer.

1469
01:11:55,652 --> 01:11:55,732
Speaker 10: Lee.

1470
01:11:56,732 --> 01:11:59,093
Speaker 2: Hey, this may sound like, this may sound like sorry

1471
01:11:58,853 --> 01:12:01,253
Speaker 2: to interrupt you, Glenn, this may sound like a silly question,

1472
01:12:01,333 --> 01:12:03,213
Speaker 2: but can you get I mean, I should know this.

1473
01:12:03,652 --> 01:12:06,213
Speaker 2: Can you get burnt through a windscreen?

1474
01:12:07,572 --> 01:12:07,772
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1475
01:12:07,933 --> 01:12:12,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you? Okay, so you continue on. Sorry.

1476
01:12:13,572 --> 01:12:13,812
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1477
01:12:13,853 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 12: So I got a leasion that appeared around Christmas time

1478
01:12:18,532 --> 01:12:22,173
Speaker 12: and it came up and I'm a convincing contractor in

1479
01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:26,412
Speaker 12: my hands pretty stuff, and we go the doctor in

1480
01:12:26,492 --> 01:12:31,333
Speaker 12: January and they referred it for They said, by there's

1481
01:12:31,333 --> 01:12:35,333
Speaker 12: something going on. It was eighteen millimeters in diameter at

1482
01:12:35,372 --> 01:12:38,572
Speaker 12: the end. We got turned down to get it removed

1483
01:12:38,572 --> 01:12:40,892
Speaker 12: publicly because they had to be twenty millimeters in diameter.

1484
01:12:41,053 --> 01:12:43,932
Speaker 4: Oh right, okay, eighteen sounds pretty big.

1485
01:12:45,213 --> 01:12:48,692
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I got turned They tried to put me

1486
01:12:48,732 --> 01:12:53,133
Speaker 12: into a clinic free do it. Well, it was big,

1487
01:12:53,173 --> 01:12:55,412
Speaker 12: it got big at the end. Yeah, so it tried

1488
01:12:55,452 --> 01:12:57,572
Speaker 12: to get me into a free clinic and they just

1489
01:12:57,732 --> 01:13:01,293
Speaker 12: marked us around, wouldn't reply the doctor's surgery instead. I

1490
01:13:01,333 --> 01:13:03,972
Speaker 12: went in there four times and the last time actually

1491
01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:06,093
Speaker 12: went in there and just said, right, where do I go?

1492
01:13:06,293 --> 01:13:06,972
Speaker 12: Who do I talk?

1493
01:13:07,133 --> 01:13:07,812
Speaker 6: Who do we talk to?

1494
01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:11,093
Speaker 12: So we got to skin spots in Towering, which is

1495
01:13:11,133 --> 01:13:14,253
Speaker 12: two hours from where I live, and it cost.

1496
01:13:14,093 --> 01:13:16,572
Speaker 6: A few thousand dollars. I got it chopped off.

1497
01:13:16,732 --> 01:13:18,333
Speaker 12: I knocked the top of it off, putting a three

1498
01:13:18,372 --> 01:13:19,893
Speaker 12: year old's bed on the door frame one night so

1499
01:13:19,893 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 12: I could get a glove on and keep working, which

1500
01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:27,173
Speaker 12: was quite handy but bloody. So yeah, they chopped it

1501
01:13:27,173 --> 01:13:29,293
Speaker 12: off and then they put big cuts across the top

1502
01:13:29,333 --> 01:13:31,613
Speaker 12: of my hand and screwed the skin around and reattached

1503
01:13:31,612 --> 01:13:34,412
Speaker 12: it so I didn't need skin grafts, which was fantastic,

1504
01:13:35,692 --> 01:13:38,092
Speaker 12: but it was zero point four of a millimeter from

1505
01:13:38,612 --> 01:13:44,612
Speaker 12: the muscles. So they put me in for radiation. It's

1506
01:13:44,692 --> 01:13:47,932
Speaker 12: been declined. We've just found out because I don't live

1507
01:13:47,933 --> 01:13:52,293
Speaker 12: in Towering, so I lived two hours from Toweringer. My

1508
01:13:52,372 --> 01:13:56,372
Speaker 12: next option is White Ado, which we lived two hours from.

1509
01:13:56,893 --> 01:13:58,652
Speaker 12: So we've got to start the process again.

1510
01:13:59,372 --> 01:14:02,173
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's that is guffing to hear Glenn.

1511
01:14:02,293 --> 01:14:07,013
Speaker 2: And have you got insurance assurances that that delay is

1512
01:14:07,053 --> 01:14:09,133
Speaker 2: not going to be really bad?

1513
01:14:10,452 --> 01:14:14,093
Speaker 12: No, not at all. I lost my father twenty years

1514
01:14:14,093 --> 01:14:17,173
Speaker 12: ago to do freak cancer and there was delay in

1515
01:14:17,173 --> 01:14:20,053
Speaker 12: his treatment and they removed the voice box and then

1516
01:14:20,093 --> 01:14:25,253
Speaker 12: the threat cancer came back. So there's no there's no

1517
01:14:25,293 --> 01:14:27,812
Speaker 12: guarantees that delayed. I mean it was delay after delay

1518
01:14:27,812 --> 01:14:31,452
Speaker 12: after the day I got quite pussy because I couldn't

1519
01:14:31,452 --> 01:14:32,973
Speaker 12: actually wear a leaver glove when I was trying to

1520
01:14:33,053 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 12: fence and work and knocking it. And it was until

1521
01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:38,492
Speaker 12: I was putting the three year old to be in

1522
01:14:38,492 --> 01:14:40,053
Speaker 12: one night. Makes you smashed the top of it off

1523
01:14:40,053 --> 01:14:42,933
Speaker 12: from the doorframe, didn't drop, the kid, didn't swear, but

1524
01:14:42,933 --> 01:14:43,572
Speaker 12: it bloody hurt.

1525
01:14:43,732 --> 01:14:43,932
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:14:45,253 --> 01:14:45,532
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1527
01:14:45,652 --> 01:14:49,692
Speaker 2: So where do you sit now, Glen? As far as

1528
01:14:49,732 --> 01:14:53,692
Speaker 2: moving things can forward? Like, what's what's your option?

1529
01:14:55,013 --> 01:14:56,452
Speaker 12: I gotta be a little bit careful on this one,

1530
01:14:56,452 --> 01:14:59,812
Speaker 12: but I've actually changed my address to a retirement village

1531
01:14:59,812 --> 01:15:03,812
Speaker 12: in Papa mar and we're going to resubmit through towering.

1532
01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:06,652
Speaker 4: It yea made. If it works, it works, you know,

1533
01:15:06,732 --> 01:15:07,892
Speaker 4: what other options do you have?

1534
01:15:07,973 --> 01:15:12,892
Speaker 2: You know? Okay, okay, good luck with that, Bernard, Bernard Warrington,

1535
01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:14,612
Speaker 2: I hope you go.

1536
01:15:14,692 --> 01:15:20,572
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, awesome guy. If you get the choice of

1537
01:15:20,853 --> 01:15:24,053
Speaker 12: the chance of getting skin spots checked or getting skin checks,

1538
01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:25,492
Speaker 12: chaur hundred and sixty bucks is nothing.

1539
01:15:25,532 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 2: Well, just just to go back at the start of

1540
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:28,692
Speaker 2: the story and thank you so much for an angling.

1541
01:15:28,772 --> 01:15:32,532
Speaker 2: That's it's great. But what what what first stood out

1542
01:15:32,572 --> 01:15:32,852
Speaker 2: to you?

1543
01:15:34,053 --> 01:15:35,772
Speaker 12: I was a big lump right by my knuck, one

1544
01:15:35,772 --> 01:15:38,372
Speaker 12: of my knuckles on my on my and what And.

1545
01:15:38,293 --> 01:15:41,972
Speaker 2: It's just just the size of it that made you worry.

1546
01:15:42,492 --> 01:15:43,532
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I wouldn't go away.

1547
01:15:43,572 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 12: I'd been working in a lot of BlackBerry and I

1548
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:46,692
Speaker 12: had a few lesions on my hand and this one

1549
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:48,293
Speaker 12: stood out and I left it for a week or

1550
01:15:48,293 --> 01:15:49,612
Speaker 12: two and I but there's something in it. And I

1551
01:15:49,652 --> 01:15:52,372
Speaker 12: went to the doctors and they went, actually, no, that's

1552
01:15:52,772 --> 01:15:57,492
Speaker 12: skin can. Sounds like, oh yeah, so, and you know

1553
01:15:57,772 --> 01:16:00,532
Speaker 12: it's it's cheap to get it cheap. Chur undred and

1554
01:16:00,532 --> 01:16:04,212
Speaker 12: sixty bucks is nothing. Come on, this has cost me thousands.

1555
01:16:04,253 --> 01:16:05,732
Speaker 12: I was out of work. I'm suting to it. I

1556
01:16:05,732 --> 01:16:09,093
Speaker 12: was out of work for twenty dates. You know, I've

1557
01:16:09,133 --> 01:16:10,932
Speaker 12: actually been saying with a spunt on after twenty days.

1558
01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:12,612
Speaker 12: I shouldn't have really been doing it because my hand

1559
01:16:12,692 --> 01:16:15,492
Speaker 12: was still stitched together, but hey, you gotta do what

1560
01:16:15,532 --> 01:16:15,933
Speaker 12: you're gonna do.

1561
01:16:16,412 --> 01:16:19,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for you called Glenn. Yeah, I

1562
01:16:19,213 --> 01:16:21,492
Speaker 2: mean that further back to our called Bob before. I

1563
01:16:21,492 --> 01:16:24,532
Speaker 2: think most people, if it's urgent enough, can can rustle

1564
01:16:24,572 --> 01:16:28,692
Speaker 2: together two sixty cerfe health and then and then if not,

1565
01:16:29,133 --> 01:16:30,812
Speaker 2: you know, go to your you go to your GP

1566
01:16:31,532 --> 01:16:34,692
Speaker 2: and and and then help will be provided for you.

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01:16:34,812 --> 01:16:38,133
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly right. Thank you very much for that call.

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01:16:38,293 --> 01:16:41,053
Speaker 4: It is eight minutes to three, beg very shortly. You're

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01:16:41,053 --> 01:16:42,933
Speaker 4: listening to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

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01:16:43,612 --> 01:16:46,052
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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01:16:46,093 --> 01:16:49,812
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons.

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01:16:49,412 --> 01:16:52,772
Speaker 4: Used talk z be it is five to three.

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01:16:53,213 --> 01:16:55,372
Speaker 2: Hey, this is a text from Dave who were talking before,

1574
01:16:56,053 --> 01:16:59,253
Speaker 2: who had the man alma stage three that moved up before.

1575
01:16:59,452 --> 01:17:01,173
Speaker 2: I think the answer was simple. If you have had

1576
01:17:01,253 --> 01:17:03,732
Speaker 2: skin cancer or are closely related to those who have,

1577
01:17:04,093 --> 01:17:07,052
Speaker 2: avoid the sun and get your vitamin D from a pill.

1578
01:17:07,093 --> 01:17:08,652
Speaker 2: I mean that that's that's a good point. You can

1579
01:17:08,692 --> 01:17:14,492
Speaker 2: get vitamin D from your diet as well, but otherwise,

1580
01:17:14,532 --> 01:17:17,372
Speaker 2: getting ten to fifty minutes a day of son on arms,

1581
01:17:17,372 --> 01:17:19,532
Speaker 2: hands and face, legs, legs is the way to go.

1582
01:17:19,973 --> 01:17:24,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, teachs. Thank you very much for that, Chris.

1583
01:17:24,532 --> 01:17:30,013
Speaker 18: Oh, good afternoon, after Dave. Thank you to David for

1584
01:17:30,093 --> 01:17:32,492
Speaker 18: sharing and having the character to share his story.

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01:17:32,692 --> 01:17:34,732
Speaker 2: He was great, wasn't it. Yeah?

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01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:35,692
Speaker 13: Thank you, David.

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01:17:35,973 --> 01:17:38,213
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean thank you for saying that. Actually,

1588
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:41,052
Speaker 2: thank you for thanking him because he you know, people

1589
01:17:41,093 --> 01:17:44,372
Speaker 2: that are you know, brave enough and articulate enough to

1590
01:17:44,412 --> 01:17:46,972
Speaker 2: share those kind of stories. Is It's just it's work,

1591
01:17:47,133 --> 01:17:50,492
Speaker 2: as I said, kind of kind of humbling, it is.

1592
01:17:50,812 --> 01:17:56,492
Speaker 18: And education's key, like cigarette smoking, education on sun cancer

1593
01:17:56,572 --> 01:18:02,333
Speaker 18: of he I've had multiple cancer, melanoma, basil cell soul.

1594
01:18:02,412 --> 01:18:05,293
Speaker 18: I've just had one removed twice. And here I have

1595
01:18:05,333 --> 01:18:07,692
Speaker 18: a crator in my arm. I just got the stitches out.

1596
01:18:08,133 --> 01:18:12,213
Speaker 2: Hey, this is going to sound really bad, but we've

1597
01:18:12,213 --> 01:18:14,173
Speaker 2: got the We can't stop when the news comes, and

1598
01:18:14,173 --> 01:18:16,173
Speaker 2: it's coming very soon. Can we hold you over the

1599
01:18:16,213 --> 01:18:19,372
Speaker 2: news and talk to you in about seven minutes? Would

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01:18:19,372 --> 01:18:19,852
Speaker 2: that be all right?

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01:18:20,213 --> 01:18:20,372
Speaker 8: Oh?

1602
01:18:20,452 --> 01:18:21,412
Speaker 18: Yes, it would be fine.

1603
01:18:21,452 --> 01:18:22,092
Speaker 4: You're amazing.

1604
01:18:22,133 --> 01:18:24,372
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. We just let the clock get away

1605
01:18:24,452 --> 01:18:26,572
Speaker 2: from us. And this hand up the news comes with

1606
01:18:26,772 --> 01:18:28,612
Speaker 2: we we want it or not. It's it's like a

1607
01:18:28,652 --> 01:18:29,532
Speaker 2: steam train coming in.

1608
01:18:29,692 --> 01:18:32,572
Speaker 4: Absolutely my bad, but Chris just told there because we

1609
01:18:32,812 --> 01:18:34,372
Speaker 4: really want to hear your story and we're going to

1610
01:18:34,372 --> 01:18:36,652
Speaker 4: carry this on for a bit after three o'clock and

1611
01:18:36,732 --> 01:18:38,532
Speaker 4: want to hear yours too. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1612
01:18:38,612 --> 01:18:41,093
Speaker 4: ten eighty, But stand by, we're going to go back

1613
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:44,092
Speaker 4: to Chris and hear her story very shortly News Sport

1614
01:18:44,133 --> 01:18:46,412
Speaker 4: and we're the fast approaching. Great to have your company.

1615
01:18:46,412 --> 01:18:49,053
Speaker 4: As always, you're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope you

1616
01:18:49,053 --> 01:18:50,933
Speaker 4: having a great Monday afternoon.

1617
01:18:56,333 --> 01:19:00,652
Speaker 1: Your new home are instateful and entertaining talk. It's Maddie

1618
01:19:00,893 --> 01:19:04,412
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk SEBBI.

1619
01:19:05,173 --> 01:19:08,013
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon, welcome back into the show. We are

1620
01:19:08,013 --> 01:19:11,412
Speaker 4: packing up on the discussion we were having about the

1621
01:19:11,452 --> 01:19:14,812
Speaker 4: advantages of getting your vitamin D getting that balance right

1622
01:19:14,973 --> 01:19:18,853
Speaker 4: with obviously being soun smart or protecting yourself against melanoma.

1623
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:22,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we hear heart breaking stories about from the

1624
01:19:22,372 --> 01:19:28,093
Speaker 2: likes of David who has stage four melanoma, and you

1625
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:30,412
Speaker 2: know that is incredibly tragic, but he wasn't a Sunday.

1626
01:19:30,452 --> 01:19:31,652
Speaker 2: There he wasn't a person that was out in the

1627
01:19:31,692 --> 01:19:34,092
Speaker 2: sun a whole lot along the lawns and his jeans.

1628
01:19:34,933 --> 01:19:38,932
Speaker 2: Even so, there's very very real risks, But there's also

1629
01:19:39,093 --> 01:19:41,293
Speaker 2: very very real risks of staying out of the sun

1630
01:19:41,933 --> 01:19:45,253
Speaker 2: in terms of your mental health. Absolutely everyone knows how

1631
01:19:45,253 --> 01:19:46,732
Speaker 2: great it is to be out and about with other

1632
01:19:46,772 --> 01:19:52,572
Speaker 2: people doing activities sport, tramping, walking, just you know, the

1633
01:19:52,812 --> 01:19:55,253
Speaker 2: the and the vitamin D that you get from that,

1634
01:19:55,293 --> 01:19:58,252
Speaker 2: which is great for bone, houth, immune function, muscle strength,

1635
01:19:58,612 --> 01:20:02,173
Speaker 2: you know, and fight fights depression. And there are there

1636
01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:05,372
Speaker 2: are supplements you can take and dietary changes you can

1637
01:20:05,452 --> 01:20:09,013
Speaker 2: have that that will get you vitamin D. But you know,

1638
01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:12,333
Speaker 2: does that have the same mental health benefits as getting

1639
01:20:12,333 --> 01:20:14,892
Speaker 2: out and about and doing stuff. Yeah, on the real

1640
01:20:15,213 --> 01:20:16,852
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to miss out on your whole life

1641
01:20:16,893 --> 01:20:20,892
Speaker 2: trying to hide from from the sun. But also there

1642
01:20:20,933 --> 01:20:23,293
Speaker 2: are very real dangers. There's any exposure to the sun

1643
01:20:23,333 --> 01:20:26,772
Speaker 2: can be risky and different people have different risks. And

1644
01:20:26,893 --> 01:20:28,972
Speaker 2: just while we hear before we go back to Chris

1645
01:20:29,013 --> 01:20:31,253
Speaker 2: who were talking before, and we rudely interrupted by the

1646
01:20:31,293 --> 01:20:34,572
Speaker 2: news and are continually to interrupt by this talking right

1647
01:20:34,612 --> 01:20:40,293
Speaker 2: now but the ABCD rule around melanoma signs asymmetry one

1648
01:20:40,293 --> 01:20:45,052
Speaker 2: half doesn't match the other. Border irregularities, ragged or blurred edges,

1649
01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:48,892
Speaker 2: color uneven, color with different shades, diameter larger than six

1650
01:20:49,013 --> 01:20:52,013
Speaker 2: millimeters or the size of a pencil eraser, and evolving

1651
01:20:52,452 --> 01:20:55,173
Speaker 2: changing in size, shape or color. And the other thing

1652
01:20:55,253 --> 01:20:57,412
Speaker 2: is the ugly duckling a new mold that looks very

1653
01:20:57,412 --> 01:21:03,213
Speaker 2: different from the others. So yes, a b CD asymmetry, border, color,

1654
01:21:03,772 --> 01:21:06,053
Speaker 2: diameter and evolving.

1655
01:21:06,213 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 4: Great advice, now, Chris.

1656
01:21:07,933 --> 01:21:10,572
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sticking ground, and once again's

1657
01:21:10,572 --> 01:21:13,452
Speaker 2: apologies for cutting your chat in half.

1658
01:21:14,372 --> 01:21:18,892
Speaker 18: That's quite all right. I'm just saying. I was just

1659
01:21:18,933 --> 01:21:24,012
Speaker 18: saying that education is key, and I am on both

1660
01:21:24,053 --> 01:21:27,372
Speaker 18: sides of the spectrum when it comes to not getting

1661
01:21:27,492 --> 01:21:31,972
Speaker 18: enough vitamin D. And heaven been unfortunate to have multiple

1662
01:21:32,013 --> 01:21:36,892
Speaker 18: skin cancers but only one round of melanoma or they

1663
01:21:36,933 --> 01:21:40,652
Speaker 18: had to go in twice. But it wasn't. It was

1664
01:21:40,692 --> 01:21:46,093
Speaker 18: a superficial spreading melanoma caught early because I was vigilant

1665
01:21:46,452 --> 01:21:50,253
Speaker 18: and noticed the change in the border on a mole

1666
01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:52,333
Speaker 18: that had been there for a long time, but it

1667
01:21:52,372 --> 01:21:56,612
Speaker 18: was flat that was on my ankle, where I had

1668
01:21:56,652 --> 01:21:59,852
Speaker 18: had quite a bit of sun. I had similar looking

1669
01:21:59,893 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 18: moles another couple that I keep an eye on because

1670
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:08,132
Speaker 18: they changed. What I noticed first was the border changed

1671
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:13,052
Speaker 18: was asymmetrical, which is uneven borders, and I noticed it changed,

1672
01:22:13,772 --> 01:22:16,333
Speaker 18: and so I pointed it out to my GP, and

1673
01:22:16,452 --> 01:22:18,133
Speaker 18: he said, we'll keep an eye on it. And then

1674
01:22:18,133 --> 01:22:19,852
Speaker 18: one day he said we'll get rid of it. And

1675
01:22:20,692 --> 01:22:23,293
Speaker 18: it came back as melanoma. And he said he didn't

1676
01:22:23,293 --> 01:22:26,372
Speaker 18: get it all, so I had to go back, which

1677
01:22:26,452 --> 01:22:30,013
Speaker 18: is what's just happened on my arm just in the

1678
01:22:30,053 --> 01:22:34,572
Speaker 18: last few months. It had been liquid nitrogen. With liquid

1679
01:22:34,692 --> 01:22:37,732
Speaker 18: nitrogen a few years ago. I've do that before, it

1680
01:22:37,973 --> 01:22:42,293
Speaker 18: was quite healed, and so he did it again, probably

1681
01:22:42,492 --> 01:22:45,572
Speaker 18: in the last within the last six months, and it

1682
01:22:45,612 --> 01:22:49,372
Speaker 18: didn't heal properly, at least bluidy brown stuff. So he

1683
01:22:49,452 --> 01:22:51,692
Speaker 18: cut it out and he didn't get it all, and

1684
01:22:51,732 --> 01:22:56,412
Speaker 18: it comes back as a basil cel castinoma. And he's

1685
01:22:56,452 --> 01:22:58,612
Speaker 18: just gone back and got more out and now I

1686
01:22:58,612 --> 01:23:01,892
Speaker 18: have a dint in my arm, which was a small

1687
01:23:01,933 --> 01:23:04,452
Speaker 18: price to pay, but he said he got it all.

1688
01:23:04,492 --> 01:23:07,293
Speaker 18: But I've had multiple ones on my face in the

1689
01:23:07,333 --> 01:23:15,052
Speaker 18: last few years. Basil sol and solar heratosis is another one.

1690
01:23:15,093 --> 01:23:17,412
Speaker 18: And I had a huge one on my legs before

1691
01:23:17,492 --> 01:23:22,173
Speaker 18: Christmas and over Christmas that almost ulcerated. That was a

1692
01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:26,372
Speaker 18: solar heratosis. So I'm learning myself about all these.

1693
01:23:26,772 --> 01:23:29,452
Speaker 2: You must have known quite a bit beforehand, though, because

1694
01:23:29,492 --> 01:23:32,532
Speaker 2: you you know, you were you had educated yourself to

1695
01:23:32,612 --> 01:23:34,813
Speaker 2: know what to look out for with that asymmetry.

1696
01:23:35,933 --> 01:23:39,652
Speaker 18: Well only because I'm I was a child. I was

1697
01:23:39,732 --> 01:23:44,973
Speaker 18: white blonde, and my parents were both from places that

1698
01:23:45,013 --> 01:23:47,932
Speaker 18: didn't get a huge amount of sun, like my dad

1699
01:23:48,013 --> 01:23:50,133
Speaker 18: was at the top of Southern Ireland and my mother

1700
01:23:50,213 --> 01:23:54,532
Speaker 18: was English. We were we did. Mum did rub sun

1701
01:23:54,572 --> 01:23:57,213
Speaker 18: cream on us as children, but my damage was probably

1702
01:23:57,213 --> 01:24:02,733
Speaker 18: done as a teenager out with my friends getting severely

1703
01:24:02,772 --> 01:24:06,612
Speaker 18: burnt and blistered. Also, on the radio would come sun

1704
01:24:06,692 --> 01:24:10,973
Speaker 18: tan turnover time. Back in seventeen people.

1705
01:24:10,652 --> 01:24:12,612
Speaker 2: Were using baby what was it?

1706
01:24:12,652 --> 01:24:13,013
Speaker 19: What was it?

1707
01:24:13,853 --> 01:24:16,253
Speaker 2: Baby oil to coconut oil.

1708
01:24:16,812 --> 01:24:19,692
Speaker 18: I remember having to go to bed very ill.

1709
01:24:21,053 --> 01:24:21,813
Speaker 13: And blistered.

1710
01:24:22,053 --> 01:24:26,093
Speaker 18: Now that educates us not to do it again. But

1711
01:24:26,133 --> 01:24:28,093
Speaker 18: it was a time of life, a little bit like

1712
01:24:28,213 --> 01:24:32,053
Speaker 18: smoking or teenagers not vigilant and you're with all your

1713
01:24:32,093 --> 01:24:33,133
Speaker 18: friends on a hot day.

1714
01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:36,293
Speaker 2: People were just cooking themselves like sausages, covering themselves and

1715
01:24:36,333 --> 01:24:40,213
Speaker 2: basically oil swizzling themselves.

1716
01:24:40,532 --> 01:24:42,532
Speaker 18: So when I had the one on my face a

1717
01:24:42,532 --> 01:24:45,093
Speaker 18: couple of years ago, the doctor said, I hate to

1718
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:46,972
Speaker 18: tell you this, Once you get one on your face,

1719
01:24:47,093 --> 01:24:49,933
Speaker 18: usually get about ten. And that's true. I've had surgeries

1720
01:24:49,933 --> 01:24:50,492
Speaker 18: on the nose.

1721
01:24:52,452 --> 01:24:52,612
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1722
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,412
Speaker 18: I thought it was a bit like join the dots

1723
01:24:54,452 --> 01:24:55,172
Speaker 18: at one stage.

1724
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:58,132
Speaker 2: So do you think do you think that there are people?

1725
01:24:58,572 --> 01:25:00,732
Speaker 2: Because it was interesting talking the day before who had

1726
01:25:00,772 --> 01:25:03,492
Speaker 2: never been a sun bather or hadn't really been a

1727
01:25:03,492 --> 01:25:06,772
Speaker 2: beach beach kind of you know, run around kind of guy.

1728
01:25:06,853 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 2: He thought, you know, the most time he spent the

1729
01:25:08,173 --> 01:25:10,772
Speaker 2: same was among the lawns, and you know he was

1730
01:25:10,772 --> 01:25:14,333
Speaker 2: wearing jeans at the time. So there clearly is a

1731
01:25:14,412 --> 01:25:17,732
Speaker 2: genetic side to this that some people are just and

1732
01:25:17,772 --> 01:25:20,452
Speaker 2: it sounds like you are just more susceptible to me.

1733
01:25:22,572 --> 01:25:24,692
Speaker 18: But in saying that, I'd like to point out the

1734
01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:26,812
Speaker 18: other end of the spectrum. For me, I've been on

1735
01:25:27,173 --> 01:25:31,212
Speaker 18: vitamin D tablets for many, many years, even though obviously

1736
01:25:31,213 --> 01:25:32,972
Speaker 18: I've been out in the sun, haven't I to get

1737
01:25:32,973 --> 01:25:38,772
Speaker 18: all those? And I have full and osteoporosis. They're waiting

1738
01:25:38,812 --> 01:25:41,333
Speaker 18: on a bone infusion at the moment or there.

1739
01:25:41,612 --> 01:25:46,053
Speaker 2: You've got a few things to worry about, haven't you, Chris, Well.

1740
01:25:46,692 --> 01:25:49,532
Speaker 18: I've got a lot more than I've had teen broken bones,

1741
01:25:49,853 --> 01:25:54,692
Speaker 18: and just Drake ristic. Yes, So it's a real balance.

1742
01:25:54,772 --> 01:25:57,532
Speaker 18: I'm not looking for sympathies or anything, but it's a

1743
01:25:57,532 --> 01:26:00,772
Speaker 18: real balance. I'm quite interested in the children of today

1744
01:26:01,333 --> 01:26:04,972
Speaker 18: about how much sun they should get, balance being out.

1745
01:26:05,253 --> 01:26:10,372
Speaker 18: I still believe regardless of all that, even myself, I'm

1746
01:26:10,812 --> 01:26:14,492
Speaker 18: I'm careful about how much sun I get, but I

1747
01:26:14,532 --> 01:26:16,972
Speaker 18: still think I need a little for mental well being

1748
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:17,732
Speaker 18: and for that good.

1749
01:26:19,213 --> 01:26:21,612
Speaker 2: This is what the conversation that we wanted to have, Chris.

1750
01:26:21,612 --> 01:26:25,333
Speaker 2: And it's interesting talking to you whose experience that the

1751
01:26:25,333 --> 01:26:28,492
Speaker 2: the other side of it, the you know, the the

1752
01:26:28,692 --> 01:26:33,093
Speaker 2: damaging side of the sun and quite stark reality. But

1753
01:26:33,213 --> 01:26:35,693
Speaker 2: with all the people that are texting through and hysteria

1754
01:26:35,772 --> 01:26:37,812
Speaker 2: and anger and saying that we shouldn't even suggest the

1755
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:42,093
Speaker 2: value of the sun. But really, what you'll call sort

1756
01:26:42,133 --> 01:26:44,532
Speaker 2: of highlights is that that balance that we've got to

1757
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:48,092
Speaker 2: find because because not getting any sun is really really bad,

1758
01:26:48,532 --> 01:26:50,973
Speaker 2: and too much sun can be really really bad. So

1759
01:26:50,973 --> 01:26:52,372
Speaker 2: we've got to we've got to work out what the

1760
01:26:52,732 --> 01:26:53,813
Speaker 2: what the right balances.

1761
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 18: I really believe I should keep myself protected from here

1762
01:26:57,572 --> 01:27:00,532
Speaker 18: on in as much as I can. But for people,

1763
01:27:00,933 --> 01:27:02,972
Speaker 18: young ones, they need a little bit because you can

1764
01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:06,452
Speaker 18: get such from what was that thing you used to

1765
01:27:06,532 --> 01:27:08,253
Speaker 18: get was it ricketts or something like that?

1766
01:27:08,933 --> 01:27:09,093
Speaker 20: Enough?

1767
01:27:09,333 --> 01:27:11,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the vitamin d's you know, and although you

1768
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:14,692
Speaker 2: know you've had some troubles here, but the vitamin D is.

1769
01:27:15,772 --> 01:27:20,612
Speaker 2: Low vitamin D levels a link to osteoporosis and general

1770
01:27:20,652 --> 01:27:24,933
Speaker 2: bone strength and muscle strength, bone house immune function.

1771
01:27:26,372 --> 01:27:29,652
Speaker 18: Saying, were the moles spot chicks where? Because I've been

1772
01:27:29,652 --> 01:27:33,293
Speaker 18: googling that and trying to get myself some molemets or

1773
01:27:33,372 --> 01:27:38,612
Speaker 18: spot chicks free because I'm not working, and you pointed

1774
01:27:38,652 --> 01:27:41,452
Speaker 18: out where some of them are. I've been trying to

1775
01:27:41,492 --> 01:27:42,012
Speaker 18: find out.

1776
01:27:42,173 --> 01:27:45,652
Speaker 2: So yeah, well there's there's melanoma dot org dot in Z.

1777
01:27:46,333 --> 01:27:49,012
Speaker 2: They've got their van going around. But I would stress

1778
01:27:49,013 --> 01:27:51,372
Speaker 2: if you've got something that you've spotted that you're worried about,

1779
01:27:51,732 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 2: you probably don't want to wait to the vans in

1780
01:27:53,293 --> 01:27:55,213
Speaker 2: your area. No, yeah, you probably want to try and

1781
01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:57,012
Speaker 2: go along to a GP as soon as possible.

1782
01:27:57,973 --> 01:28:00,012
Speaker 18: But I don't think putting a lot of money into

1783
01:28:00,053 --> 01:28:02,852
Speaker 18: shaded areas is the answer. I think it's the education.

1784
01:28:03,412 --> 01:28:06,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Chris. I mean

1785
01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 2: that's how this sort of started, where you know, people

1786
01:28:10,293 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 2: advocating for compulsory sunshades to be put up on a

1787
01:28:13,333 --> 01:28:17,612
Speaker 2: bunch of places, public spaces and such. But you're never

1788
01:28:17,652 --> 01:28:20,532
Speaker 2: going to be able to shade the whole world not

1789
01:28:20,812 --> 01:28:22,492
Speaker 2: I mean everyone can go out in their backyard or

1790
01:28:22,492 --> 01:28:24,692
Speaker 2: walk down the street or go to the beach. I

1791
01:28:24,732 --> 01:28:26,892
Speaker 2: mean you're going to You're gonna puna put a sunshade

1792
01:28:26,893 --> 01:28:30,893
Speaker 2: overywhere and this you and this, you have sensible discussions

1793
01:28:30,933 --> 01:28:33,972
Speaker 2: about the risks and rewards of the sun. Then you're

1794
01:28:33,973 --> 01:28:36,892
Speaker 2: never really going to end up saving anyone, are you.

1795
01:28:36,933 --> 01:28:39,213
Speaker 4: And we love her outdoors and as you said before,

1796
01:28:39,372 --> 01:28:41,253
Speaker 4: you know, if you're doing things like tramping or on

1797
01:28:41,333 --> 01:28:43,412
Speaker 4: your boat, the mental health side of things, but also

1798
01:28:43,933 --> 01:28:45,772
Speaker 4: that physical side of things as well, you've got to

1799
01:28:45,812 --> 01:28:47,293
Speaker 4: get you know, that's what we love in this country,

1800
01:28:47,333 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 4: getting outside and getting tramping or going for a high

1801
01:28:51,452 --> 01:28:54,053
Speaker 4: care whatever it may be. That cost benefit analysis of

1802
01:28:54,133 --> 01:28:57,012
Speaker 4: having the physical attributes of that as well.

1803
01:28:57,492 --> 01:29:00,452
Speaker 2: The sexer says, I don't have skin cancel. I've had anything,

1804
01:29:00,572 --> 01:29:03,852
Speaker 2: but I've got osteoporosis and my doctor has advised that

1805
01:29:03,973 --> 01:29:07,452
Speaker 2: everyone should be taking vitamin D three throughout the winter

1806
01:29:07,532 --> 01:29:08,412
Speaker 2: because you don't get an.

1807
01:29:08,812 --> 01:29:12,732
Speaker 4: Interesting Yeah, okay, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1808
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:14,612
Speaker 4: number to call coming up after the break. We had

1809
01:29:14,652 --> 01:29:18,692
Speaker 4: a call from Terry. Can we actually mention who Terry is, Andrew?

1810
01:29:18,732 --> 01:29:20,933
Speaker 4: I think we can. Terry Collins, who actually does some

1811
01:29:21,013 --> 01:29:23,133
Speaker 4: work for the AA, but he has been a long

1812
01:29:23,173 --> 01:29:25,372
Speaker 4: time mole map supporter, so we're going to have a

1813
01:29:25,412 --> 01:29:29,213
Speaker 4: chat to him very shortly. He called before and he

1814
01:29:29,253 --> 01:29:30,892
Speaker 4: was keen for a chat. So we'll get a hold

1815
01:29:30,933 --> 01:29:32,892
Speaker 4: of Terry and he is coming up next. It is

1816
01:29:32,933 --> 01:29:34,133
Speaker 4: seventeen past three.

1817
01:29:34,893 --> 01:29:36,053
Speaker 1: The news talks'd be.

1818
01:29:36,412 --> 01:29:39,613
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon chew. So Terry Collins from the AA,

1819
01:29:39,812 --> 01:29:42,012
Speaker 4: he's been a principal advisor with them for some time.

1820
01:29:42,093 --> 01:29:44,452
Speaker 4: He did ring back last hour and he was very

1821
01:29:44,492 --> 01:29:46,492
Speaker 4: keen for a chat. He's had a lot of moles

1822
01:29:46,532 --> 01:29:49,652
Speaker 4: removed and being very involved in that side of things.

1823
01:29:49,652 --> 01:29:51,812
Speaker 4: But unfortunately he's a busy man, so he's doing some

1824
01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:54,732
Speaker 4: he's gone back to do some work for the AA.

1825
01:29:54,772 --> 01:29:57,932
Speaker 4: But he did mention that the AA does have some

1826
01:29:58,053 --> 01:30:00,892
Speaker 4: discounted offers if you want to go get a mole check,

1827
01:30:00,973 --> 01:30:03,212
Speaker 4: so you can go check that out on the AA website.

1828
01:30:03,213 --> 01:30:06,012
Speaker 4: But great discussion, thinking everybody who called in text on

1829
01:30:06,812 --> 01:30:08,053
Speaker 4: the benefits of vitamin D.

1830
01:30:08,412 --> 01:30:12,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, at the start of the conversation we said,

1831
01:30:12,692 --> 01:30:14,932
Speaker 2: we need to find a balance between the risks of

1832
01:30:14,973 --> 01:30:18,852
Speaker 2: the sun and the benefits of the sun. And of course,

1833
01:30:18,933 --> 01:30:22,492
Speaker 2: like everything, like absolutely everything except for the opinions of

1834
01:30:22,532 --> 01:30:26,972
Speaker 2: certain people on the text machine, there's nuance and there's balance.

1835
01:30:27,492 --> 01:30:31,412
Speaker 2: And so you can't live an absolute fear of the

1836
01:30:31,452 --> 01:30:34,092
Speaker 2: sun to the point that you are locking yourself away

1837
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:41,292
Speaker 2: or completely completely depriving your skin of any kind of sun. Equally,

1838
01:30:41,412 --> 01:30:46,093
Speaker 2: you have to be very aware of the risks and

1839
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:48,452
Speaker 2: you know, if you've got any concerns at all about it,

1840
01:30:48,692 --> 01:30:51,492
Speaker 2: but a mole in your skin, then go and see

1841
01:30:51,492 --> 01:30:54,213
Speaker 2: your GP. And if you can afford a mole map,

1842
01:30:54,213 --> 01:30:57,293
Speaker 2: get a mole map. And as we're saying before, look

1843
01:30:57,372 --> 01:31:01,812
Speaker 2: up the ABCD of mole checking asymmetry, border, color, diameter

1844
01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:05,892
Speaker 2: and evolving. Because the risks of the sun are very high,

1845
01:31:05,893 --> 01:31:07,812
Speaker 2: but the rewards of the sun are very high as well.

1846
01:31:07,933 --> 01:31:10,492
Speaker 4: Nicely said and thank you very much to everyone who

1847
01:31:10,572 --> 01:31:13,572
Speaker 4: joined in on that discussion. Right, let's get into.

1848
01:31:13,093 --> 01:31:15,732
Speaker 2: Even the death threats for even suggesting that I enjoy

1849
01:31:15,732 --> 01:31:17,932
Speaker 2: a bit of sun and I got a sunburn in Fiji,

1850
01:31:17,973 --> 01:31:19,532
Speaker 2: even those texts.

1851
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:21,772
Speaker 4: Even Bob who came in pretty hot, no pun intended.

1852
01:31:23,093 --> 01:31:26,173
Speaker 4: But but Bob, you don't have to be that anger

1853
01:31:26,213 --> 01:31:28,572
Speaker 4: on a Monday. It's just it's just it's just a

1854
01:31:28,612 --> 01:31:29,412
Speaker 4: general discussion.

1855
01:31:29,612 --> 01:31:30,492
Speaker 2: I still love you, Bob.

1856
01:31:30,572 --> 01:31:32,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, we still love you. Mate, You're a good man. Right,

1857
01:31:32,732 --> 01:31:34,053
Speaker 4: let's get into this one. This is going to be

1858
01:31:34,093 --> 01:31:37,452
Speaker 4: a good discussion. Breakfast. How important it is the first

1859
01:31:37,492 --> 01:31:40,012
Speaker 4: meal of the day turns out, according to a new study,

1860
01:31:40,293 --> 01:31:43,213
Speaker 4: incredibly important. Skipping your first meal of the day could

1861
01:31:43,253 --> 01:31:45,572
Speaker 4: more than double your risk of dying from heart disease.

1862
01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:49,013
Speaker 4: It goes further than that, every hour extra hour you

1863
01:31:49,093 --> 01:31:51,932
Speaker 4: delay breakfast is associated with a ten percent higher risk

1864
01:31:52,013 --> 01:31:53,933
Speaker 4: of death over the next decade.

1865
01:31:54,572 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 2: The breakfast has got to be the most controversial meal. Yeah,

1866
01:31:57,652 --> 01:32:01,772
Speaker 2: breakfast has been talked about, no breakfast, sun breakfast, lot,

1867
01:32:01,812 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 2: big breakfast, small breakfast, doing your exercise before breakfast, after breakfast,

1868
01:32:06,372 --> 01:32:07,812
Speaker 2: all these kind of things people have been talking about.

1869
01:32:07,853 --> 01:32:11,093
Speaker 2: Breakfast for long as time, breaking of the fast. Yes,

1870
01:32:11,213 --> 01:32:14,652
Speaker 2: it is interesting because you know, historically speaking, you know,

1871
01:32:14,692 --> 01:32:19,053
Speaker 2: when you when you read old texts, breakfast wasn't really

1872
01:32:19,093 --> 01:32:20,973
Speaker 2: a thing for the longest time. You just sort of

1873
01:32:21,013 --> 01:32:23,213
Speaker 2: had the first meal of the day when you when

1874
01:32:23,253 --> 01:32:26,213
Speaker 2: you could, you know. Okay, that's why it's called breaking fast,

1875
01:32:26,452 --> 01:32:29,572
Speaker 2: when you break your fast from not eating overnight.

1876
01:32:29,692 --> 01:32:29,852
Speaker 13: Right.

1877
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:34,173
Speaker 2: But then it got commercialized with cereals and sugary cereals,

1878
01:32:34,253 --> 01:32:37,293
Speaker 2: and then you know, bacon was a was a marketing campaign.

1879
01:32:37,412 --> 01:32:39,173
Speaker 2: You know, they were looking about how they could sell bacon,

1880
01:32:39,253 --> 01:32:43,013
Speaker 2: so they came out. It was actually Freud's nephew, Thesot

1881
01:32:43,053 --> 01:32:46,972
Speaker 2: psychiatrists came up with the idea of associating bacon with breakfast.

1882
01:32:47,053 --> 01:32:50,173
Speaker 2: But because a lot of other meats had different types

1883
01:32:50,213 --> 01:32:52,012
Speaker 2: of the day when people eat them, so they started

1884
01:32:52,013 --> 01:32:53,973
Speaker 2: a whole marketing campaign. Now we think bacon is a

1885
01:32:53,973 --> 01:32:56,692
Speaker 2: breakfast food. Anyway, a lot of marketing around it, a

1886
01:32:56,692 --> 01:33:00,532
Speaker 2: lot of talk about it. I have tried not having breakfast,

1887
01:33:01,213 --> 01:33:05,013
Speaker 2: you know, I bought into the intimate, intimate fasting. But

1888
01:33:05,173 --> 01:33:08,572
Speaker 2: now i think I've got the perfect breakfast. Okay, that's

1889
01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:14,492
Speaker 2: keeping me energized. It's and it's in keeping me false.

1890
01:33:14,812 --> 01:33:18,692
Speaker 2: I'm not turning into a psychopathic eating machine because I'm

1891
01:33:18,732 --> 01:33:21,572
Speaker 2: so hungry and it's quite a hearty breakfast, and I'm

1892
01:33:21,572 --> 01:33:22,293
Speaker 2: also losing weight.

1893
01:33:22,492 --> 01:33:24,293
Speaker 4: This is going to be good. Okay, you're going to

1894
01:33:24,333 --> 01:33:25,972
Speaker 4: share that after we play some messages.

1895
01:33:26,333 --> 01:33:30,612
Speaker 2: Taylor says, what about second breakfast? Yes, the Lord of

1896
01:33:30,612 --> 01:33:31,732
Speaker 2: the Rings fans always come through.

1897
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:32,012
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1898
01:33:32,013 --> 01:33:34,772
Speaker 4: Love Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. How

1899
01:33:34,853 --> 01:33:36,852
Speaker 4: is it for you? Because, as Matt said, there's been

1900
01:33:36,853 --> 01:33:38,892
Speaker 4: a lot of confusion over whether you should have breakfast,

1901
01:33:38,893 --> 01:33:43,292
Speaker 4: whether you shouldn't. Have you found the perfect breakfast for yourself,

1902
01:33:43,452 --> 01:33:45,852
Speaker 4: or does it work for you not having breakfast? There's

1903
01:33:45,853 --> 01:33:47,692
Speaker 4: still a lot of people out there that don't eat

1904
01:33:47,772 --> 01:33:49,692
Speaker 4: until midday and they love talking about that.

1905
01:33:49,933 --> 01:33:52,013
Speaker 2: Are you like what I used to be, which is

1906
01:33:52,053 --> 01:33:53,692
Speaker 2: an anti breakfast activist?

1907
01:33:53,853 --> 01:33:56,372
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on through. It is twenty four past three.

1908
01:33:56,893 --> 01:33:57,973
Speaker 4: Beg very surely.

1909
01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:01,812
Speaker 2: Did the Teachers Union bring up breakfast with Eric Stanford?

1910
01:34:01,812 --> 01:34:03,653
Speaker 4: Than that meeting would have been way better than Palestine.

1911
01:34:08,412 --> 01:34:11,732
Speaker 1: Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty

1912
01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:13,612
Speaker 1: ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1913
01:34:14,492 --> 01:34:18,732
Speaker 4: Very good afternoons. She is twenty six past three, Texas.

1914
01:34:18,853 --> 01:34:20,492
Speaker 2: Is every time you clowns take the piss out of

1915
01:34:20,492 --> 01:34:22,812
Speaker 2: people for their opinions, the closer your family gets to

1916
01:34:22,853 --> 01:34:25,412
Speaker 2: being a target. I hope you realize someone's just posted

1917
01:34:25,452 --> 01:34:26,932
Speaker 2: your address. It's on Facebook.

1918
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:28,852
Speaker 4: Wow, geez, that's sinister.

1919
01:34:29,053 --> 01:34:31,532
Speaker 2: That's a psychopathic text, isn't it.

1920
01:34:31,612 --> 01:34:32,612
Speaker 4: That is really sinister.

1921
01:34:32,732 --> 01:34:34,652
Speaker 2: Every time you clowns to take the piss out of people,

1922
01:34:34,692 --> 01:34:37,333
Speaker 2: you and their opinions, the closer your family gets to

1923
01:34:37,372 --> 01:34:39,853
Speaker 2: being targeted. You are a psychotexter.

1924
01:34:40,093 --> 01:34:40,972
Speaker 4: It's pretty unhinged.

1925
01:34:41,093 --> 01:34:44,173
Speaker 2: You are You are a Okay, I'm going to take

1926
01:34:44,173 --> 01:34:46,452
Speaker 2: the purse out of your opinion. You are a clown.

1927
01:34:46,853 --> 01:34:49,092
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that is very unhanded.

1928
01:34:49,133 --> 01:34:51,732
Speaker 2: So for having a discussion on the radio, you're saying

1929
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Speaker 2: that families should be targeted. Yeah, are you You're a

1930
01:34:55,333 --> 01:34:55,852
Speaker 2: mad person?

1931
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Speaker 4: That is crazy talk. Yeah, that is very unhinged.

1932
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Speaker 2: Jesus right, grow up.

1933
01:35:02,133 --> 01:35:05,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, the state of I don't even know what

1934
01:35:05,853 --> 01:35:08,053
Speaker 4: to say to someone like that. That's just unhinged. I

1935
01:35:08,053 --> 01:35:11,093
Speaker 4: don't think you can you know, I can't comprehend what

1936
01:35:11,173 --> 01:35:13,852
Speaker 4: goes through someone's mind like that. It's just crazy.

1937
01:35:15,293 --> 01:35:17,293
Speaker 2: I love the judgment that comes from a person like that,

1938
01:35:17,452 --> 01:35:21,212
Speaker 2: So they're what you're you're judging anyway, doesn't matter anyway.

1939
01:35:22,412 --> 01:35:24,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm certainly not going to thank that person for

1940
01:35:24,213 --> 01:35:26,492
Speaker 4: that text. Usually I work, but not not that one.

1941
01:35:26,532 --> 01:35:29,453
Speaker 4: That's crazy town. All right. We are talking about breakfast

1942
01:35:29,492 --> 01:35:32,132
Speaker 4: and how important it is, according to a new UK study,

1943
01:35:32,372 --> 01:35:36,532
Speaker 4: incredibly important when it comes to your cardiovascular health. They reckon,

1944
01:35:36,572 --> 01:35:40,172
Speaker 4: if you don't have bricky, then you've got two times

1945
01:35:40,973 --> 01:35:44,412
Speaker 4: a higher risk of having some sort of cardiovascular issues

1946
01:35:44,933 --> 01:35:46,492
Speaker 4: during your lifetime. That's that's big.

1947
01:35:46,772 --> 01:35:50,412
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this, this is this chat here in this

1948
01:35:50,492 --> 01:35:54,532
Speaker 2: investigation and the study of three thousand UK adults reckons

1949
01:35:54,532 --> 01:35:57,093
Speaker 2: that they've come up with the perfect breakfast. Right, Yeah,

1950
01:35:57,412 --> 01:35:59,013
Speaker 2: I think I've come up with a perfect breakfast, So

1951
01:35:59,133 --> 01:36:02,053
Speaker 2: be interesting. I haven't read this on purpose because I

1952
01:36:02,093 --> 01:36:04,132
Speaker 2: want to compare what I've come up with, my perfect

1953
01:36:04,173 --> 01:36:06,932
Speaker 2: breakfast that that's working for me over the last month,

1954
01:36:07,412 --> 01:36:08,772
Speaker 2: and what they've come up with.

1955
01:36:08,893 --> 01:36:11,133
Speaker 4: Okay, shall we do that now? Or now we'll take

1956
01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:12,492
Speaker 4: a call and then we're going to do that.

1957
01:36:12,612 --> 01:36:14,852
Speaker 2: Now we'll go to K. First, welcome to show K.

1958
01:36:16,093 --> 01:36:19,372
Speaker 4: Hello, how are you very good? And what are you

1959
01:36:19,412 --> 01:36:21,613
Speaker 4: reckon about having breakfast? Is it important.

1960
01:36:22,412 --> 01:36:22,972
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.

1961
01:36:23,853 --> 01:36:26,132
Speaker 19: I've been through a hell of a journey with food

1962
01:36:27,412 --> 01:36:30,572
Speaker 19: and having at eating disorder and needs all these sorts

1963
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:36,093
Speaker 19: of things. So I've had to relearn about food quite particularly,

1964
01:36:36,973 --> 01:36:38,652
Speaker 19: and I'm glad I got through all of that before

1965
01:36:38,652 --> 01:36:40,852
Speaker 19: I had my own kid's side and flipped off the

1966
01:36:40,893 --> 01:36:45,532
Speaker 19: diet culture stuff onto them. But so basically I got

1967
01:36:45,532 --> 01:36:48,372
Speaker 19: to a point where I realized, you know, your body naturally,

1968
01:36:48,452 --> 01:36:50,732
Speaker 19: and people will be up in arms about what I'm

1969
01:36:50,732 --> 01:36:54,253
Speaker 19: about to stay, but your body naturally is interested as

1970
01:36:54,293 --> 01:37:00,133
Speaker 19: interested as hungry every three or so hours. So maybe

1971
01:37:00,492 --> 01:37:03,692
Speaker 19: are quite as an adult. And this is what I've

1972
01:37:03,772 --> 01:37:09,052
Speaker 19: learned through dietisis and you know, various specialists and food.

1973
01:37:11,492 --> 01:37:15,532
Speaker 19: And my brother he got quite sick of being what

1974
01:37:15,652 --> 01:37:18,972
Speaker 19: he considered overweight, but he considered it being over thirty

1975
01:37:20,253 --> 01:37:23,293
Speaker 19: and so he started maybe two or three years ago,

1976
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:27,053
Speaker 19: started fasting like all through the day, and he got

1977
01:37:27,093 --> 01:37:29,133
Speaker 19: still a point when he was at gets hungry through day,

1978
01:37:30,652 --> 01:37:33,652
Speaker 19: and so he then then became an everything for him,

1979
01:37:33,652 --> 01:37:36,053
Speaker 19: and so he was only having like one mere day

1980
01:37:36,692 --> 01:37:40,053
Speaker 19: at the end of the day. And then about stemths

1981
01:37:40,093 --> 01:37:43,452
Speaker 19: ago he was the regularly check up and he turned

1982
01:37:43,492 --> 01:37:47,052
Speaker 19: out he's got quite high cholesterol and he's only thirty six, right,

1983
01:37:47,293 --> 01:37:50,692
Speaker 19: and yeah, and so that I sort of compared that

1984
01:37:50,853 --> 01:37:55,293
Speaker 19: for the study that you've just mentioned as cardiovascular disease

1985
01:37:56,532 --> 01:38:00,692
Speaker 19: brought a shoe by cardiovascular events has increases because after

1986
01:38:00,853 --> 01:38:03,333
Speaker 19: a bit of more discussions with who he was seeing,

1987
01:38:03,412 --> 01:38:09,213
Speaker 19: which ended up being still with food, said that, you know,

1988
01:38:09,253 --> 01:38:11,333
Speaker 19: we sort of figured out that he's only getting one

1989
01:38:11,412 --> 01:38:14,333
Speaker 19: meal a day, and you don't have enough time to

1990
01:38:14,372 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 19: get good cholesterol, did good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. You

1991
01:38:19,333 --> 01:38:21,972
Speaker 19: don't have enough time to get in good and bad

1992
01:38:22,053 --> 01:38:26,093
Speaker 19: cholesterol and one meal. And so unless that meal is

1993
01:38:26,213 --> 01:38:31,532
Speaker 19: just packed full of only the healthiest satans, which then

1994
01:38:31,572 --> 01:38:35,412
Speaker 19: an ideal world would always that way, and then you're not.

1995
01:38:35,612 --> 01:38:38,012
Speaker 19: You don't have enough time, you don't have enough meals

1996
01:38:38,053 --> 01:38:42,212
Speaker 19: in the day to consume the healthy nutrients and LDL

1997
01:38:42,293 --> 01:38:45,572
Speaker 19: and HGL that you need to look after your heart.

1998
01:38:45,812 --> 01:38:50,452
Speaker 19: There's there's no way. And my last comment would be

1999
01:38:50,532 --> 01:38:53,772
Speaker 19: that what was interesting is that various doctors that he

2000
01:38:53,893 --> 01:38:57,932
Speaker 19: mentioned two that he was fasting all day, said, oh,

2001
01:38:58,013 --> 01:39:03,093
Speaker 19: that's nothing wrong with that, because the body it is

2002
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:05,532
Speaker 19: a new phenomenon that he every two to three hours.

2003
01:39:05,532 --> 01:39:08,293
Speaker 19: But then basically what happened now he's got high cholest

2004
01:39:08,612 --> 01:39:09,892
Speaker 19: at thirty six years old.

2005
01:39:11,173 --> 01:39:13,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't Because there's no way that we

2006
01:39:13,652 --> 01:39:18,653
Speaker 2: were eating you know, in the in you know, pre prehistory.

2007
01:39:18,692 --> 01:39:20,972
Speaker 2: I guess you'd describe it pre civilization. There's no way

2008
01:39:21,013 --> 01:39:24,293
Speaker 2: we were eating three meals a day with snacks in

2009
01:39:24,293 --> 01:39:26,852
Speaker 2: the middle. Absolutely no way that we're evolved to do that.

2010
01:39:28,053 --> 01:39:28,253
Speaker 8: Yees.

2011
01:39:28,933 --> 01:39:32,572
Speaker 19: But also regular day the life expectancy of humans was

2012
01:39:32,612 --> 01:39:33,053
Speaker 19: a lot there.

2013
01:39:34,772 --> 01:39:38,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know so well, and we're.

2014
01:39:38,333 --> 01:39:42,412
Speaker 19: A lot more battle with there's different types of food.

2015
01:39:42,452 --> 01:39:45,132
Speaker 19: We don't just have straight natural fishes anymore.

2016
01:39:45,293 --> 01:39:48,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it can be for one of the

2017
01:39:48,133 --> 01:39:50,652
Speaker 4: big well, I don't get confused by it. But there's

2018
01:39:50,772 --> 01:39:54,173
Speaker 4: so much different data about intimittent fasting and what is

2019
01:39:54,213 --> 01:39:56,372
Speaker 4: the right, whether it's the eight sixteen or whether it's

2020
01:39:56,412 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 4: having a two day fast for whatever it may be.

2021
01:39:58,853 --> 01:40:00,892
Speaker 4: And it sounds like some people get really good results,

2022
01:40:00,893 --> 01:40:03,293
Speaker 4: but then there's people like your brother, And unfortunately for him,

2023
01:40:03,412 --> 01:40:06,293
Speaker 4: he came back with high cholesterol. So I take it

2024
01:40:06,293 --> 01:40:07,773
Speaker 4: he's he's stopped the fasting.

2025
01:40:07,532 --> 01:40:12,732
Speaker 19: Now reluctantly, and it's a bit of it's not an

2026
01:40:12,772 --> 01:40:14,532
Speaker 19: easy thing to do when you've been doing it for

2027
01:40:14,572 --> 01:40:18,932
Speaker 19: so long, so you can't just start eating breakfast all

2028
01:40:18,973 --> 01:40:21,812
Speaker 19: of a sudden because he feels breakfast, which is normal

2029
01:40:21,812 --> 01:40:24,412
Speaker 19: because it's coming bother than me until tea time.

2030
01:40:24,732 --> 01:40:24,932
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2031
01:40:26,013 --> 01:40:29,052
Speaker 19: But I think also with intimate it's admitted fast get fasting.

2032
01:40:29,093 --> 01:40:32,012
Speaker 19: I think it's good. If you're not doing it every

2033
01:40:32,053 --> 01:40:36,213
Speaker 19: single day for two to three years, doing a couple

2034
01:40:36,253 --> 01:40:39,932
Speaker 19: of days a week, it's probably good. And as long

2035
01:40:39,973 --> 01:40:44,692
Speaker 19: as the meals that you are having are balanced and healthy,

2036
01:40:46,133 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 19: then it'll probably be fine because you'll be able to

2037
01:40:48,213 --> 01:40:53,053
Speaker 19: consume what you need to get the right nutrients. Yeah.

2038
01:40:53,133 --> 01:40:56,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, nicely said K. Thank you very much, thanks for

2039
01:40:56,492 --> 01:40:58,253
Speaker 4: giving us a buzz. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

2040
01:40:58,333 --> 01:40:59,772
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call.

2041
01:40:59,853 --> 01:41:03,093
Speaker 2: I had that doctor Michael Morley RP. He was a

2042
01:41:03,173 --> 01:41:07,412
Speaker 2: very lovely man who was the big practitioner of intimate

2043
01:41:07,452 --> 01:41:10,532
Speaker 2: it fasting. Had on my radio show previous radio show

2044
01:41:10,612 --> 01:41:13,532
Speaker 2: for this. He's very convincing what he said about it.

2045
01:41:13,772 --> 01:41:15,253
Speaker 2: And I tried it for a long time and then

2046
01:41:15,853 --> 01:41:18,333
Speaker 2: I don't know it just in the end, it just

2047
01:41:18,412 --> 01:41:21,133
Speaker 2: made me so obsessed with food that out the other

2048
01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:23,253
Speaker 2: side of it, it became a problem. Yeah, some people

2049
01:41:23,372 --> 01:41:25,053
Speaker 2: get into them to mint it fasting and then it

2050
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:29,572
Speaker 2: just changes there, you know, when they expect food, they

2051
01:41:29,692 --> 01:41:33,372
Speaker 2: and they find it easy. Yeah, and you know, but

2052
01:41:33,412 --> 01:41:34,532
Speaker 2: it didn't work. It doesn't work for me.

2053
01:41:34,572 --> 01:41:36,452
Speaker 4: I under it. Yeah, horses for courses, like a lot

2054
01:41:36,492 --> 01:41:37,973
Speaker 4: of these things. But keen to get your thoughts. I

2055
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:40,973
Speaker 4: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty breakfast. Are you

2056
01:41:41,053 --> 01:41:43,772
Speaker 4: one of those people that just doesn't eat breakfast? And

2057
01:41:44,333 --> 01:41:47,772
Speaker 4: is it working for you? Or have you decided your

2058
01:41:47,812 --> 01:41:50,213
Speaker 4: life was was just not working out without Bricky, so

2059
01:41:50,293 --> 01:41:52,092
Speaker 4: you've gone back and what is the perfect breakfast?

2060
01:41:52,372 --> 01:41:55,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this person says, go on the seafood diet,

2061
01:41:55,492 --> 01:41:58,812
Speaker 2: eat when you see food. And look, that's a good joke.

2062
01:41:58,893 --> 01:41:59,692
Speaker 4: That is a good joke.

2063
01:41:59,772 --> 01:42:00,852
Speaker 2: And it was a joke I was going to make

2064
01:42:00,853 --> 01:42:02,692
Speaker 2: the other day about something but I didn't.

2065
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:05,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're the bigger man at

2066
01:42:05,652 --> 01:42:07,012
Speaker 4: the time then, But that was a good joke.

2067
01:42:07,372 --> 01:42:10,612
Speaker 2: A text have a South Indian breakfast? What I'd like

2068
01:42:10,692 --> 01:42:12,173
Speaker 2: to know what a South Indian breakfast is?

2069
01:42:12,333 --> 01:42:13,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, please take more context.

2070
01:42:13,812 --> 01:42:16,333
Speaker 2: It's very interesting what breakfasts are around the world. You know,

2071
01:42:16,372 --> 01:42:18,652
Speaker 2: in Japan, the breakfast is very different in some parts

2072
01:42:18,652 --> 01:42:20,452
Speaker 2: of the world. Breakfast doesn't look that different from the

2073
01:42:20,492 --> 01:42:20,972
Speaker 2: other meals.

2074
01:42:21,093 --> 01:42:23,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh right under it. Eighty ten eighty is

2075
01:42:23,772 --> 01:42:26,452
Speaker 4: the number to call. What is the perfect breakfast? If

2076
01:42:26,492 --> 01:42:28,293
Speaker 4: you eat it? It all love to hear from you.

2077
01:42:28,532 --> 01:42:30,732
Speaker 4: Headlines with Raylene coming up. Then we've taken more of

2078
01:42:30,732 --> 01:42:32,652
Speaker 4: your calls. It is twenty five to four.

2079
01:42:32,772 --> 01:42:35,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going to share my ultimate breakfast. Do

2080
01:42:35,173 --> 01:42:35,732
Speaker 2: you just say that?

2081
01:42:36,053 --> 01:42:38,933
Speaker 4: No, I didn't, but that's exciting. I'm looking forward to that.

2082
01:42:38,933 --> 01:42:39,652
Speaker 4: That's coming up.

2083
01:42:42,572 --> 01:42:46,293
Speaker 11: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2084
01:42:46,333 --> 01:42:49,933
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. Labors promising to reinvest

2085
01:42:50,013 --> 01:42:54,012
Speaker 11: wealth in the economy, announcing its first major policy before

2086
01:42:54,053 --> 01:42:58,253
Speaker 11: next year's election. It's New Zealand Future Fund would redistribute

2087
01:42:58,293 --> 01:43:01,652
Speaker 11: dividends from assets into Kiwi firms, kicking off with a

2088
01:43:01,692 --> 01:43:06,492
Speaker 11: two hundred million dollar crown contribution. Stat Sanz data shows

2089
01:43:06,612 --> 01:43:10,892
Speaker 11: in September an you'll inflation hit three percent, but we'll

2090
01:43:10,893 --> 01:43:13,493
Speaker 11: have to wait longer to see where the quarterly unemployment

2091
01:43:13,612 --> 01:43:18,093
Speaker 11: rose more and whether we entered technical recession. These indicators

2092
01:43:18,173 --> 01:43:22,412
Speaker 11: are historical and have already passed local Government and ZAID

2093
01:43:22,572 --> 01:43:26,333
Speaker 11: President Sam Broughton has announced his stepping down about eight

2094
01:43:26,372 --> 01:43:30,732
Speaker 11: months early a week after losing his Selwyn maryalty. Wild

2095
01:43:30,732 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 11: weather in the South has toppled trees and left hundreds

2096
01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:37,172
Speaker 11: without par in Dunedin and Mosgal. Orange heavy rain warnings

2097
01:43:37,333 --> 01:43:40,973
Speaker 11: cover Westland, Canterbury and Fieldland, and Marlborough and Canterbury are

2098
01:43:41,053 --> 01:43:45,493
Speaker 11: under strong wind warnings. Wayne Brown on how Auckland primed.

2099
01:43:45,893 --> 01:43:50,013
Speaker 11: Auckland is primed to capitalize on growth in tech. You

2100
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:53,053
Speaker 11: can see his full column at endsid Herald Premium. Back

2101
01:43:53,093 --> 01:43:54,452
Speaker 11: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2102
01:43:54,452 --> 01:43:56,253
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about the

2103
01:43:56,293 --> 01:43:58,932
Speaker 4: importance of breakfast. Has been confusing for a long time.

2104
01:43:59,053 --> 01:44:01,213
Speaker 4: You should have breakfast, you shouldn't have breakfast, But now

2105
01:44:01,812 --> 01:44:05,453
Speaker 4: recent study says it's incredibly important. If you don't have breakfast,

2106
01:44:05,732 --> 01:44:09,132
Speaker 4: it can more than double your risk of cardiop skillar disease.

2107
01:44:09,213 --> 01:44:12,452
Speaker 4: And for every extra extra hour you delay breakfast rather

2108
01:44:12,732 --> 01:44:14,972
Speaker 4: that is associated with a timbercent higher risk of death

2109
01:44:14,973 --> 01:44:15,772
Speaker 4: over the next decade.

2110
01:44:15,812 --> 01:44:19,333
Speaker 2: We're just investigating the South Indian breakfast because text has

2111
01:44:19,372 --> 01:44:22,652
Speaker 2: said that's the ultimate breakfast. This topic is always going

2112
01:44:22,692 --> 01:44:25,293
Speaker 2: to be divisive seas. Bridget, look at the success of

2113
01:44:25,412 --> 01:44:28,452
Speaker 2: Keto and Carnivore. It's not necessarily if breakfast is good

2114
01:44:28,532 --> 01:44:32,852
Speaker 2: or bad. It's what you're having for breakfast. Cheers Bridget. Yeah, okay,

2115
01:44:32,893 --> 01:44:34,732
Speaker 2: so we're ready to hear my breakfast. Let's do it

2116
01:44:34,772 --> 01:44:39,852
Speaker 2: and we're okay. Here we go, right. So for a start,

2117
01:44:39,893 --> 01:44:42,692
Speaker 2: there's two fish oil tablets fish oil one.

2118
01:44:42,532 --> 01:44:44,972
Speaker 4: Thousand yep, amega three yep cool.

2119
01:44:45,213 --> 01:44:48,853
Speaker 2: Then all brand original cowlogs forty five grams.

2120
01:44:48,772 --> 01:44:53,173
Speaker 4: Nice exactly forty five grams yep. Then protein plus light

2121
01:44:53,253 --> 01:44:57,133
Speaker 4: milk eighty five mills five mis. My breakfast I've worked

2122
01:44:57,412 --> 01:44:58,412
Speaker 4: down to a fine art.

2123
01:44:58,532 --> 01:45:01,253
Speaker 2: Then amazing prunes sun sweet, twenty.

2124
01:45:01,013 --> 01:45:03,693
Speaker 4: Grams nice prunes are good? How much twenty grams.

2125
01:45:03,412 --> 01:45:05,572
Speaker 2: Twenty grams are there? Yeah, this is the breakfast that

2126
01:45:05,572 --> 01:45:07,452
Speaker 2: I've I've worked out scientifically for myself.

2127
01:45:07,692 --> 01:45:09,253
Speaker 4: Then a key we nice.

2128
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:13,692
Speaker 2: That's sixty nine grams of Kiwi fruit or one key fruit,

2129
01:45:14,133 --> 01:45:17,652
Speaker 2: two pieces of original mixed grain vogels, toast bit of vogels,

2130
01:45:17,853 --> 01:45:21,932
Speaker 2: two slices, and tuna chunks and spring water are thirty

2131
01:45:21,933 --> 01:45:22,893
Speaker 2: five grams.

2132
01:45:22,532 --> 01:45:25,333
Speaker 4: Of that tuna chunks and bring water.

2133
01:45:26,013 --> 01:45:28,652
Speaker 2: That's seven hundred and two calories for breakfast for me

2134
01:45:29,612 --> 01:45:32,012
Speaker 2: at carbs, there's one hundred and four grams of carbs

2135
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:35,213
Speaker 2: in there, seven point six grams of fat yeap, and

2136
01:45:35,333 --> 01:45:39,053
Speaker 2: thirty eight point nine grams of protein in my perfect

2137
01:45:39,253 --> 01:45:41,532
Speaker 2: breakfast that I'm having every day, just repeating that rinse

2138
01:45:41,572 --> 01:45:41,972
Speaker 2: and repereat.

2139
01:45:42,293 --> 01:45:46,412
Speaker 4: That is uber specific and down to a fine science.

2140
01:45:46,452 --> 01:45:49,053
Speaker 4: That right. So let's have a look with what the

2141
01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:51,173
Speaker 4: experts say is the perfect breakfast. And I've got all

2142
01:45:51,213 --> 01:45:53,852
Speaker 4: the details here as much as possible. So they say

2143
01:45:54,532 --> 01:45:57,172
Speaker 4: between twenty to thirty grams of protein.

2144
01:45:58,612 --> 01:46:01,053
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm thirty eight grams of protein in mind.

2145
01:46:01,692 --> 01:46:03,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you go in a little bit higher on

2146
01:46:03,293 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 4: the protein side of things. But let's carry on. They

2147
01:46:06,253 --> 01:46:10,692
Speaker 4: reckon eight to ten grams of fiber. You're getting that

2148
01:46:10,732 --> 01:46:14,093
Speaker 4: in you're Kiwi Easy easy on the fiber, whole grain

2149
01:46:14,173 --> 01:46:17,732
Speaker 4: carbohydrate low and added sugar such as oats or whole

2150
01:46:17,772 --> 01:46:20,852
Speaker 4: meal bread. So you've got the oil brand yep, that's

2151
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:23,532
Speaker 4: your whole meal, and then you've got your vogels yep.

2152
01:46:23,732 --> 01:46:26,572
Speaker 4: So you're taking that one healthy fats, a small portion

2153
01:46:26,652 --> 01:46:30,053
Speaker 4: of nuts, seeds, and olive oil. So what do we

2154
01:46:30,093 --> 01:46:33,572
Speaker 4: got there? Oh, your fish oil Yeah, so that comes

2155
01:46:33,572 --> 01:46:35,812
Speaker 4: in through the healthy oil and at least one piece

2156
01:46:35,933 --> 01:46:38,613
Speaker 4: of fruit or vege aim for a variety of colors.

2157
01:46:39,293 --> 01:46:41,372
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Look so according to this Yeah,

2158
01:46:41,652 --> 01:46:44,492
Speaker 2: so I reckon, I'm in the ballpark of this. You know,

2159
01:46:45,412 --> 01:46:50,532
Speaker 2: this current study that has found something out which, as

2160
01:46:50,572 --> 01:46:54,492
Speaker 2: we all know, will be completely thrown out. I mean

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01:46:54,933 --> 01:46:56,692
Speaker 2: just just look at the chat on eggs that's been

2162
01:46:56,732 --> 01:47:00,492
Speaker 2: over the over previous years. Yeah, and maybe we'll try

2163
01:47:00,532 --> 01:47:01,972
Speaker 2: and find it. But there was there was a great

2164
01:47:03,452 --> 01:47:05,532
Speaker 2: I guess called meme that was going around No it's

2165
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:07,692
Speaker 2: not a meme, as a little video meme video that

2166
01:47:07,812 --> 01:47:10,532
Speaker 2: was going around on social media recently, and it was

2167
01:47:10,853 --> 01:47:14,012
Speaker 2: a Nutrition from the Future Nutrition Us from the future. Yeah,

2168
01:47:14,452 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 2: flying back and about eggs, you know, knocking eggs out

2169
01:47:17,293 --> 01:47:19,932
Speaker 2: of people's hands there, keep back there. It was brilliant

2170
01:47:20,372 --> 01:47:20,973
Speaker 2: trying and play that.

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01:47:21,093 --> 01:47:23,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to Sean in the meantime, though.

2172
01:47:23,812 --> 01:47:26,092
Speaker 2: Samsu sounds like you've got too much time in the morning,

2173
01:47:26,133 --> 01:47:26,333
Speaker 2: made it.

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01:47:26,412 --> 01:47:28,572
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Well we're not.

2175
01:47:28,973 --> 01:47:30,812
Speaker 2: We're not on it till twelve. Yeah, we got time

2176
01:47:31,772 --> 01:47:32,652
Speaker 2: and welcome to the show.

2177
01:47:35,732 --> 01:47:41,133
Speaker 21: The Very Hard Way. Never go anywhere without a breakfast.

2178
01:47:41,173 --> 01:47:44,132
Speaker 21: Eighty years ago. They got up at five o'clock.

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01:47:45,013 --> 01:47:45,412
Speaker 3: Do you go on?

2180
01:47:45,492 --> 01:47:50,173
Speaker 21: Most of the sheep for shearing got the horse didn't

2181
01:47:50,173 --> 01:47:53,293
Speaker 21: feel hungry, so I didn't bother with breakfast. But when

2182
01:47:53,333 --> 01:47:56,012
Speaker 21: we got out the back of a three hundred acre farm,

2183
01:47:56,652 --> 01:47:59,652
Speaker 21: we had to get them using lambs across a creek

2184
01:47:59,893 --> 01:48:02,972
Speaker 21: and they wouldn't go. We just abut had to push

2185
01:48:03,133 --> 01:48:06,452
Speaker 21: every one of them across by hand. And it wasn't

2186
01:48:06,492 --> 01:48:10,333
Speaker 21: until I got back to the shearing shed about three

2187
01:48:10,333 --> 01:48:13,213
Speaker 21: o'clock in the afternoon that I've got a first drink

2188
01:48:13,732 --> 01:48:17,492
Speaker 21: or anything to eat. Never, ever since that day have

2189
01:48:17,612 --> 01:48:20,892
Speaker 21: I gone anywhere without having breakfast first, no matter what

2190
01:48:21,053 --> 01:48:21,692
Speaker 21: the situation.

2191
01:48:21,933 --> 01:48:23,932
Speaker 2: And Sean, did you say that was eighty years ago?

2192
01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:26,612
Speaker 21: Eighty years ago? I'm ninety one.

2193
01:48:26,692 --> 01:48:30,772
Speaker 4: Now, wow, I mean the benefits of having brick you will.

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01:48:30,933 --> 01:48:33,692
Speaker 2: That's eighty years of breakfast for you and never, never,

2195
01:48:34,333 --> 01:48:36,092
Speaker 2: never skipped the breakfast in all that time.

2196
01:48:36,973 --> 01:48:42,372
Speaker 21: No wow, because she literally you honestly do not know

2197
01:48:42,492 --> 01:48:45,253
Speaker 21: when you're going to get on this spite. Yep, you do,

2198
01:48:45,412 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 21: but you don't.

2199
01:48:46,492 --> 01:48:49,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is that's that's breakfast. So you've got

2200
01:48:49,893 --> 01:48:54,293
Speaker 2: fuel in the tank for emergencies. Basically, Sean pretty much. Yeah,

2201
01:48:54,532 --> 01:48:55,452
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's.

2202
01:48:55,253 --> 01:48:58,972
Speaker 21: When you can you can carry on all day without

2203
01:48:59,013 --> 01:49:04,013
Speaker 21: having lunch if you have to. It's just that that

2204
01:49:04,213 --> 01:49:07,012
Speaker 21: breakfast is absolutely essential. First thing.

2205
01:49:08,572 --> 01:49:11,412
Speaker 4: It sounds like hard graft was pretty essential for your

2206
01:49:11,412 --> 01:49:13,812
Speaker 4: longevity as well, Shawn. I mean that that is some

2207
01:49:13,853 --> 01:49:15,972
Speaker 4: hard work early in the morning and it did not stop.

2208
01:49:18,213 --> 01:49:21,932
Speaker 21: I've had a pretty varied life one way and another.

2209
01:49:22,412 --> 01:49:30,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound very very healthy and powerful of voice

2210
01:49:31,532 --> 01:49:33,613
Speaker 2: for someone in their nineties, Sean.

2211
01:49:35,013 --> 01:49:43,172
Speaker 21: Now putting a charged outrate of sixteen hours driving attracted.

2212
01:49:43,253 --> 01:49:47,492
Speaker 21: That's my longest day and it lasted from five o'clock

2213
01:49:47,532 --> 01:49:51,572
Speaker 21: in the morning until I got home about half pastay

2214
01:49:51,572 --> 01:49:55,253
Speaker 21: at nine o'clock at night. It was cutting hay. We

2215
01:49:55,372 --> 01:49:59,333
Speaker 21: used to do that for conflicting and I used to

2216
01:49:59,532 --> 01:50:02,612
Speaker 21: cut roughly sixty thousand bars and hay every year.

2217
01:50:05,612 --> 01:50:07,572
Speaker 2: What is your breakfast? What breakfast do you have, Sean?

2218
01:50:07,572 --> 01:50:11,612
Speaker 2: Can you describe that breakfast that you have two week picks?

2219
01:50:11,732 --> 01:50:16,652
Speaker 21: Yep, A piece of bread with marmalade on it, but marmalade.

2220
01:50:16,492 --> 01:50:19,532
Speaker 4: Nice and a cup of tea. Is that has that

2221
01:50:19,612 --> 01:50:21,572
Speaker 4: changed through the year, Sean? Or that's been You're tried

2222
01:50:21,612 --> 01:50:21,932
Speaker 4: and true.

2223
01:50:23,013 --> 01:50:26,013
Speaker 21: Oh, that's pretty much been it for as long as

2224
01:50:26,013 --> 01:50:26,692
Speaker 21: I can remember.

2225
01:50:26,893 --> 01:50:30,612
Speaker 2: You never go through the eggs, no, not.

2226
01:50:30,973 --> 01:50:33,133
Speaker 21: A not a cook breakfast and that's just once or

2227
01:50:33,133 --> 01:50:37,052
Speaker 21: twice if you go out somewhere or go yeah somebody

2228
01:50:37,812 --> 01:50:40,652
Speaker 21: cooked for you. Well that's rude not.

2229
01:50:40,692 --> 01:50:41,093
Speaker 18: To eat that.

2230
01:50:41,293 --> 01:50:44,293
Speaker 21: But yeah, it doesn't it doesn't excite me.

2231
01:50:44,652 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call Sean.

2232
01:50:46,572 --> 01:50:49,772
Speaker 2: It's a strong endorsement for breakfast eighty years. Yeah, since that,

2233
01:50:50,213 --> 01:50:54,092
Speaker 2: since that incident with the with the sheep. Yeah, that's

2234
01:50:54,173 --> 01:50:56,253
Speaker 2: quite something. And you know, if you can sound as

2235
01:50:56,253 --> 01:50:58,612
Speaker 2: healthy as Sean does when when when you're ninety one,

2236
01:50:58,853 --> 01:51:00,612
Speaker 2: then then good for you.

2237
01:51:00,492 --> 01:51:03,772
Speaker 4: Very sprightly Sean. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

2238
01:51:03,893 --> 01:51:06,452
Speaker 4: is the number to call. Plenty of teas coming through

2239
01:51:06,452 --> 01:51:07,892
Speaker 4: A nine to nine two.

2240
01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:11,932
Speaker 2: We've got that audio about the egg nutrition from the future.

2241
01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:12,932
Speaker 2: Shall be listening to that.

2242
01:51:13,213 --> 01:51:15,572
Speaker 4: We'll play it next. We'll play some messages and that

2243
01:51:15,692 --> 01:51:16,372
Speaker 4: is coming up.

2244
01:51:16,492 --> 01:51:20,372
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, have a chat with the lads on eight.

2245
01:51:21,812 --> 01:51:25,213
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talk said, be.

2246
01:51:25,492 --> 01:51:26,333
Speaker 4: There's twelve to four.

2247
01:51:26,532 --> 01:51:28,173
Speaker 2: So we're talking about a new study that says you

2248
01:51:28,213 --> 01:51:31,893
Speaker 2: absolutely should have breakfast and the protein and carb and

2249
01:51:32,452 --> 01:51:34,732
Speaker 2: such levels that you should have in it. But you know,

2250
01:51:34,812 --> 01:51:37,492
Speaker 2: anytime you're talking about nutrition or a new study on

2251
01:51:37,572 --> 01:51:39,652
Speaker 2: what you should eat, you've got a beer in mind.

2252
01:51:39,692 --> 01:51:42,412
Speaker 2: How often these things have changed over the years, and

2253
01:51:42,492 --> 01:51:45,013
Speaker 2: how you've been told absolutely something absolutely and then they've

2254
01:51:45,053 --> 01:51:47,652
Speaker 2: flipped it over. And so I just thought we'd share

2255
01:51:47,692 --> 01:51:49,852
Speaker 2: this little bit of audio. It's a comedy skit that's

2256
01:51:49,853 --> 01:51:54,372
Speaker 2: going around on social media. It's it's about a minute

2257
01:51:54,452 --> 01:51:56,852
Speaker 2: twenty Okay, so just beer with us. But I think

2258
01:51:56,853 --> 01:51:58,173
Speaker 2: there's some deeper meaning in this.

2259
01:51:58,732 --> 01:52:01,732
Speaker 4: Wait, stop, don't eat that food.

2260
01:52:02,093 --> 01:52:02,612
Speaker 9: Who are you?

2261
01:52:02,692 --> 01:52:03,852
Speaker 4: What are you doing in our house?

2262
01:52:04,452 --> 01:52:07,012
Speaker 22: I'm from the future when you're to warn you don't

2263
01:52:07,013 --> 01:52:09,652
Speaker 22: eat that food? Why not the eggs?

2264
01:52:09,812 --> 01:52:11,173
Speaker 4: They're full of cholesterol?

2265
01:52:12,372 --> 01:52:15,612
Speaker 22: What eatn't even just one egg can dramatically increase your

2266
01:52:15,652 --> 01:52:16,532
Speaker 22: chance of heart attack.

2267
01:52:17,133 --> 01:52:21,773
Speaker 4: Don't eat eggs only. Thank you, You're welcome, godspeed.

2268
01:52:27,013 --> 01:52:29,612
Speaker 11: Well, I guess I better take those eggs.

2269
01:52:30,532 --> 01:52:32,932
Speaker 4: What spot you're bad?

2270
01:52:33,213 --> 01:52:37,452
Speaker 22: Yeah, we were wrong about the eggs. Hell, it turns

2271
01:52:37,452 --> 01:52:40,572
Speaker 22: out there's two types of cholesterol. There's good cholesterol and

2272
01:52:40,732 --> 01:52:43,253
Speaker 22: bad cholesterol, and eggs actually have both.

2273
01:52:43,612 --> 01:52:45,852
Speaker 4: So You can eat eggs, but just don't eat the

2274
01:52:45,853 --> 01:52:47,492
Speaker 4: egg yolks, so.

2275
01:52:47,612 --> 01:52:48,612
Speaker 22: Stick with the egg whites.

2276
01:52:48,973 --> 01:52:50,053
Speaker 2: Thank yes, thank you.

2277
01:52:50,333 --> 01:52:57,812
Speaker 4: God speed. Why we were wrong about the eggs again?

2278
01:52:58,532 --> 01:53:01,732
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, okay, So it turns out that the amount

2279
01:53:01,772 --> 01:53:04,652
Speaker 22: of cholesterol in a food doesn't actually affect how much

2280
01:53:04,772 --> 01:53:08,852
Speaker 22: cholesterol ends up in your blood. The eggs are probably fine.

2281
01:53:09,053 --> 01:53:12,053
Speaker 22: In fact, we sort of don't even know what cholesterol is.

2282
01:53:13,253 --> 01:53:16,293
Speaker 4: But the steak, you can't eat the steak.

2283
01:53:17,372 --> 01:53:20,652
Speaker 22: What we were wrong about the steak?

2284
01:53:21,652 --> 01:53:22,613
Speaker 2: It's the toast.

2285
01:53:23,333 --> 01:53:24,812
Speaker 4: Man was not meant to eat bread.

2286
01:53:25,053 --> 01:53:25,532
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

2287
01:53:25,612 --> 01:53:27,253
Speaker 6: Man was not meant to eat bread?

2288
01:53:29,412 --> 01:53:30,572
Speaker 4: Burns out? It's genetic.

2289
01:53:32,133 --> 01:53:38,052
Speaker 22: Doesn't matter whether you exercise or what she eat. Sorry,

2290
01:53:38,053 --> 01:53:38,772
Speaker 22: I ruined your meal.

2291
01:53:39,372 --> 01:53:44,412
Speaker 2: That's so good, So clever, John says macas big bricky

2292
01:53:44,452 --> 01:53:47,173
Speaker 2: burger combo three to four times a week with a

2293
01:53:47,213 --> 01:53:50,732
Speaker 2: hot chocolate drink. Best ever sixty years, sixty six years,

2294
01:53:50,732 --> 01:53:52,852
Speaker 2: still alive and healthy. That's John, from the.

2295
01:53:52,812 --> 01:53:55,253
Speaker 4: Love of Joel, and give him a taste. We'll quickly

2296
01:53:55,372 --> 01:53:58,812
Speaker 4: sneak Wendy in here. Wendy, what do you have for breakfast?

2297
01:53:59,612 --> 01:54:00,653
Speaker 20: I like porridge?

2298
01:54:00,973 --> 01:54:02,692
Speaker 2: Ah, porridge is great, isn't it? Are you having that

2299
01:54:02,812 --> 01:54:05,493
Speaker 2: with the brown sugar or are you just having a raw?

2300
01:54:05,652 --> 01:54:08,732
Speaker 20: I have porridge or my porridge with milk, I use

2301
01:54:08,853 --> 01:54:13,573
Speaker 20: honey and yogurt or see that sometimes cream.

2302
01:54:14,093 --> 01:54:16,173
Speaker 2: That's see that sounds like you're getting fiber in there

2303
01:54:16,293 --> 01:54:18,973
Speaker 2: for you and you're getting you're getting the carbs for

2304
01:54:19,053 --> 01:54:21,892
Speaker 2: your energy you're getting and you're getting some protein with

2305
01:54:21,933 --> 01:54:24,132
Speaker 2: the milk. Surely, surely that's a great breakfast.

2306
01:54:24,973 --> 01:54:27,852
Speaker 20: Well it suits me fine and I can cope with it.

2307
01:54:27,853 --> 01:54:30,612
Speaker 20: It's about that breakfast takes me to apout right through

2308
01:54:31,173 --> 01:54:32,252
Speaker 20: till about four o'clock.

2309
01:54:32,933 --> 01:54:35,453
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, it's a good run on porridge, you know.

2310
01:54:35,653 --> 01:54:37,453
Speaker 2: In fact, there's a lot of people texting through talking

2311
01:54:37,453 --> 01:54:41,052
Speaker 2: about porridge and do you know it, strangely, my fifteen

2312
01:54:41,133 --> 01:54:44,533
Speaker 2: year old son suddenly started making porridge in the morning

2313
01:54:44,533 --> 01:54:45,293
Speaker 2: off his own volition.

2314
01:54:45,533 --> 01:54:46,892
Speaker 4: Love it, Yeah, it is.

2315
01:54:47,133 --> 01:54:49,693
Speaker 2: It is so unfashionable that it's come back in defection.

2316
01:54:50,213 --> 01:54:50,772
Speaker 4: I love it that.

2317
01:54:50,812 --> 01:54:52,932
Speaker 2: Apparently it's all over social media. Get into the porridge.

2318
01:54:52,973 --> 01:54:55,012
Speaker 4: It is eight minutes to four back in a moment.

2319
01:54:55,973 --> 01:54:59,493
Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2320
01:54:59,733 --> 01:55:00,693
Speaker 5: everything in between.

2321
01:55:00,893 --> 01:55:03,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons used talks.

2322
01:55:03,853 --> 01:55:07,933
Speaker 4: That'd be very good. Afternoon five to four now, just

2323
01:55:07,973 --> 01:55:09,653
Speaker 4: before can we wrap up for the day. Quite a

2324
01:55:09,693 --> 01:55:12,373
Speaker 4: few takes to this regard. Can you please repeat Matt's

2325
01:55:12,373 --> 01:55:15,093
Speaker 4: breakfast and what time does he typically eat?

2326
01:55:16,093 --> 01:55:17,052
Speaker 2: Great question, Coller.

2327
01:55:17,573 --> 01:55:18,093
Speaker 4: Here we go.

2328
01:55:18,373 --> 01:55:21,493
Speaker 2: Yep, So I think I probably eat at seven thirty

2329
01:55:21,533 --> 01:55:23,693
Speaker 2: am in the morning, typically after I've gone for a

2330
01:55:23,733 --> 01:55:25,812
Speaker 2: little bit of a wander with the dog. In this

2331
01:55:26,533 --> 01:55:30,172
Speaker 2: uber breakfast that I put together, not an uber breakfast,

2332
01:55:30,653 --> 01:55:31,493
Speaker 2: I'm making it at home.

2333
01:55:31,893 --> 01:55:33,333
Speaker 4: It's a large breakfast as well.

2334
01:55:33,413 --> 01:55:37,053
Speaker 2: No, I'm can say it's a carefully constructed breakfast. So

2335
01:55:37,253 --> 01:55:41,373
Speaker 2: I'm having the fisher Well one thousand, how threes capsules,

2336
01:55:41,812 --> 01:55:45,213
Speaker 2: two of those all brand original callogs forty five grams

2337
01:55:45,253 --> 01:55:49,253
Speaker 2: weighed protein plus light milk from anchor eighty five mills

2338
01:55:49,253 --> 01:55:52,212
Speaker 2: that I measure out in a little thing, amazing prunes

2339
01:55:52,213 --> 01:55:55,653
Speaker 2: from suns sweet twenty grams. I'm having two Kiwi fruit.

2340
01:55:56,893 --> 01:56:00,373
Speaker 2: I'm having two pieces of original mixed grain vogels toast,

2341
01:56:00,573 --> 01:56:03,053
Speaker 2: and I'm having thirty five grands of tuna chunks and

2342
01:56:03,093 --> 01:56:07,173
Speaker 2: spring water. And if I'm feeling risque, I'll microwave up

2343
01:56:07,213 --> 01:56:08,453
Speaker 2: in the egg and that as well.

2344
01:56:09,333 --> 01:56:10,772
Speaker 4: That's a lot of trial and error to get to

2345
01:56:10,853 --> 01:56:12,693
Speaker 4: that point. That is down to a fine science.

2346
01:56:12,772 --> 01:56:15,613
Speaker 2: But as someone points out in the text, that's that's

2347
01:56:15,613 --> 01:56:17,413
Speaker 2: not the breakfast for someone that's in a hurry.

2348
01:56:17,573 --> 01:56:20,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that takes some time. You've really got that.

2349
01:56:20,133 --> 01:56:21,772
Speaker 2: I have to have a little bit of time. But

2350
01:56:21,893 --> 01:56:25,852
Speaker 2: you know, experts are saying that breakfast design again. Previously

2351
01:56:25,933 --> 01:56:28,493
Speaker 2: experts were saying no breakfast. I think you've just got

2352
01:56:28,533 --> 01:56:30,972
Speaker 2: to You've got to plot your own cauth in life,

2353
01:56:30,973 --> 01:56:31,293
Speaker 2: don't you.

2354
01:56:31,413 --> 01:56:33,772
Speaker 4: Yeah, nicely said right, that is us.

2355
01:56:36,973 --> 01:56:39,413
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for listening to Everyone

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Speaker 2: loved our chats today over the last four hours or

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Speaker 2: three hours for some. It's been a good old time.

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Speaker 2: Podcast will be out very soon. But right now, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: why am I playing this song?

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Speaker 4: Oh, a great tune from Weezer Islands in the Sun,

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Speaker 4: because we had a great chat about the benefits of

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Speaker 4: vitamin D as long as you careful, no an ad

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, check those moles if they start to

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Speaker 2: go weird. But a bit of sun is bloody good

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Speaker 2: for you. This is a fantastic song. So until tomorrow afternoon,

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Speaker 2: give them to keep you from us and Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for tuning in to meetin Tyler afternoons on zb.

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Speaker 1: Bless you for more from News Talk zed B. Listen

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Speaker 1: live on air or online, and keep our shows with

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