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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Dupicy elland Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else News doorgsav.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show coming up today. David Seymour on

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Speaker 3: the Paris Agreement to luxury Realist, that agent who reckons

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Speaker 3: that his phone has been ringing off the hook from

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Speaker 3: foreign investors, and Amazon New Zealand's country manager on investing

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Speaker 3: more than a seven and a half billion dollars into

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Speaker 3: the country. Heather Dupicy Ellen, Oh, I have waited a

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Speaker 3: long time for this, and the day has come. Finally

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Speaker 3: we have a serious party who has spent time thinking

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Speaker 3: about it and is now seriously suggesting that New Zealand

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Speaker 3: should pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement. Now, that

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Speaker 3: was what came from that ACT party announcement that I

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Speaker 3: told you would be coming today that you needed to

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Speaker 3: keep an eye out for. ACT says Paris isn't working

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Speaker 3: for New Zealand, says we should push for the agreement

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Speaker 3: to be reformed and if it isn't reformed, then we

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Speaker 3: should pull out of it. It isn't working. ACT says

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Speaker 3: because it's pushing up our food prices, it's pushing up

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Speaker 3: our power prices. It's forcing the farmers off the land

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Speaker 3: to make way for trees. And you can add to

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Speaker 3: that list something that we've seen a lot of this

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Speaker 3: winter and last winter. It is shutting down industry because

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Speaker 3: of those high power prices. Now, there will be a

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Speaker 3: lot of people who hear this from ACT and write

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Speaker 3: it off as nutty climate change denier stuff. It is not.

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Speaker 3: Think about the Paris Agreement critically, right, set aside. You

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Speaker 3: know your vibes, whether you want to help the climate

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Speaker 3: or just set all of that stuff aside. Just think

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Speaker 3: about this critically as to whether it works or not,

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Speaker 3: and you can see it doesn't work. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: stand to be corrected, but I cannot see any country

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Speaker 3: that is meeting the targets. We will not meet the targets.

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Speaker 3: The US, one of the world's biggest polluters, has pulled out. China,

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Speaker 3: the world's biggest polluter, is still building cold powered plants.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we are fretting about the one coal powered

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Speaker 3: another one of the biggest polluters, also doing the same

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Speaker 3: with coal power plants, in which case, why would a

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Speaker 3: country responsible for what was it at the last count

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Speaker 3: or something like that. Why would a country responsible for

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Speaker 3: such a small amount continue to persist with the climate

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Speaker 3: the Paris Climate Agreement. We're not saving the planet. We're

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Speaker 3: just making Kiwis poorer, and power is so expensive that

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Speaker 3: we now have people who cannot turn on the heat

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Speaker 3: every time. Huntley burns expensive coal. Coal, by the way,

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Speaker 3: which is not expensive, but which we have decided to

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Speaker 3: artificially make expensive in order to save the planet. Now

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Speaker 3: the Gnats have shot this down already and say it's

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Speaker 3: not happening. That's smart politics for them, because they've got

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Speaker 3: to hold onto the swing voters who might react badly,

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Speaker 3: you know, without thinking things through to anything that looks

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Speaker 3: like climate change denial. The Gnats might want to be

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Speaker 3: careful about what they rule in or out hard before

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Speaker 3: the election because they might need flexibility after the election.

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Speaker 3: Given both of their coalition partners want out of Paris

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Speaker 3: Act officially wants out unless things change. New Zealand first

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Speaker 3: keeps hinting at it, and if National is honest with itself,

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Speaker 3: they should want to get out of it too. Because

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Speaker 3: Paris is making us poorer but not doing anything to

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Speaker 4: Ever Due for Clans.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is the text number David Seamo was

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Speaker 3: with us after five o'clock down to something else. The

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Speaker 3: government's rejected recommendations for a more elite university system. This

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Speaker 3: is a report from the University Advisory Group. It recommended

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Speaker 3: making entry requirements harder and limiting which institutions can award

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Speaker 3: masters or doctorate degrees. But the government has said no

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Speaker 3: to all of this, and only sixty three or only

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Speaker 3: twenty three of the sixty three recommendations have actually been accepted.

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Speaker 3: Chair of that advisory group that wrote the report was

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Speaker 3: Sir Peter Gluckman. Who's with us now? Peter, Hello, Hi, okay,

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Speaker 3: why would we make the entry requirements harder?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we need to be clear that across

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Speaker 5: the Western world over the last forty years, we've massively

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Speaker 5: we need to do is make sure that universities produce

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Speaker 3: So you basically have universities just for the really smart kids.

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Speaker 5: No, not necessarily, but I think and it's not one

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Speaker 5: saying is we want to make sure that we maintain standards.

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Speaker 5: We need to make sure on the one hand we

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Speaker 5: the other hand, we need to promote equity. So there's

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Speaker 5: a fine balance to achieve.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And so basically the same idea behind limiting the

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Speaker 5: Well, universities have a particular environment. That's why they created

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Speaker 5: they have a different funding base they use to create

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Speaker 5: a complete environment for training people to use with research degrees.

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Speaker 5: Polytechnics don't have that structure. They're not designed to do that.

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Speaker 5: There are parts of polynetchniques and one anger that do.

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Speaker 5: And so we again were trying to make sure that

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Speaker 3: Globally, are we not fighting I mean, aren't we fighting

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Speaker 3: a losing battle globally because globally, the bachelor's has just

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Speaker 3: become a bit of a nothing, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the point. We want our universities to be

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Speaker 5: of high quality, to produce high quality graduates. Yes, that

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Speaker 5: contribute to society.

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Speaker 3: No, I know what you're saying. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying is the thing that we're experiencing in

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Speaker 3: could we actually what's the value in holding the line?

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Speaker 3: Can we hold the line? Do we become elite if

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Speaker 5: No, it's not about elitism. It's about making sure that

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Speaker 5: our young people have degrees and qualifications that fit them

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Speaker 5: for the world in the future. And we're seeing an

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Speaker 5: more use of practical qualifications. We also need people who

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Speaker 5: right and we haven't had and this is the whole

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Speaker 5: point of why the way the panel called was created

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Speaker 5: We've paid a lot of time thing about the polytechniques.

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Speaker 3: Peter? On another subject altogether, do you have a view

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Speaker 5: I have a view on climate change that we must

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Speaker 3: Well, community, it's not the question. It's not the question

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Speaker 5: Well, it's clearly in trouble. The multilateral system is clearly

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Speaker 5: in trouble. But the scientific community would say, at the

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Speaker 5: moment it's the nearest thing we have to collective agreement

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Speaker 5: to make some progress, and the absence of everything else,

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Speaker 5: it will only make it worse if we all fall

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Speaker 3: Well, this is probably true as well, Peter. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I always appreciate your expertise and you and your giant brain.

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Speaker 3: That's sir. Peter Luckman, chair of the Advisory Group, wrote

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Speaker 3: report on the universities here the Yes, we should pull

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Speaker 3: out of Paris if only to stop planting trees on

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Speaker 3: You've nailed it. I was thinking about this the other

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Speaker 3: And is it fair to stop a farmer doing that?

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Speaker 3: Of course it's not fair. If they can get megabucks

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Speaker 3: they should be able to sell. But the problem is, right,

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Speaker 3: it's a smarter plan now to plant tree Like when

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Speaker 3: has it ever been a smarter plan to plant trees

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Speaker 3: when you create maky uppy stuff and twist the market.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we've done. So if you take that away,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they remove the Paras Accord. Now, if you actually

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Speaker 7: Does is there cheese in this accord?

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Speaker 8: All count me in?

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. Why why is the cheese in

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Speaker 3: the accord?

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Speaker 7: Just sent me anything in Paris? It doesn't have cheese,

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Speaker 7: Which is like when you talk about a big important

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Speaker 3: Now the big check, big cheese. So we have another

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Speaker 3: half back down? Do we we're gonna lose? I shouldn't laugh.

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Speaker 7: So what we've got this great, big muscular shoulder, this

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Speaker 7: incredible big bicep, and that's our pack. And then we've

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Speaker 7: don't know what we're going to do. What pick up

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Speaker 7: the arm and slap somebody with it. Acc have just

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Speaker 7: put up a Instagram post of petty wearepoo standing in

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Speaker 7: a river white baiting referencing, of course be Donald for

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Speaker 3: Say, oh, Kyle Preston hurt his right ankle while training.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but then someone said, oh, it might be a cut.

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Speaker 7: So maybe it's a cut or they've sliced his tendons.

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Speaker 8: In all sorts of trouble.

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Speaker 3: This is the drinking the toilet and last time he

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Speaker 3: Definitely not the clever boy sport is it some of them?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Back to this because you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: Like no one else used talk they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Okay, free Swalsh. So Reese Walsh, this is the Broncos player.

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Speaker 10: I reckon, if.

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Speaker 11: You miss toilet or off.

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Speaker 12: Hes, give a little drink.

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Speaker 3: Waman he So it turns out. It turns out he's

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Speaker 3: Right, this is obviously six sixty special and the reason

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Speaker 3: As soon as the plumbing is connected the trade, he's

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Speaker 3: Twenty four away from five.

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Speaker 3: The leaders of Russia and India have had a meeting

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Speaker 3: More than eight hundred people have been killed in an

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Speaker 13: It's got my address on the front right, but it

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Speaker 3: Then she brought it around to my house. What the helly?

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Speaker 13: But the person that we sent it to has given

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Speaker 3: What the helly?

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Speaker 3: But they can't because it's here. That is creepy, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Murry Old, Australia corresponds with our sello mas.

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Speaker 6: A very good afternoon here though.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the res wolf video?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 6: I have not seen it.

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Speaker 3: Seen the What are you doing with your life?

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Speaker 3: It's res wolves drinking a toilet?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, Well nothing surprised me when it comes.

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Speaker 5: To the NRL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I feel about it.

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Speaker 6: It was the guy who was the who was the

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Speaker 3: He's talk about the bubbling, the bubbling.

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Speaker 6: this search. It's believed Freeman has a number of firearms,

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Speaker 6: He's even suggesting Nine should apologize. He's mulling defamation action

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Speaker 6: Katta I found at my notes. My only regret. I

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Speaker 6: wasn't more aggressive with him. Far from apologizing, I just

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Speaker 6: should have kept going. And I'll leave it to your

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Speaker 6: imagination as to what that means. I mean, the silly

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Speaker 6: old bugger will have a heart attack in a minute.

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Speaker 6: And his hat's too tight.

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Speaker 3: Mars. I don't really understand what his objection to it

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Speaker 3: is because he I mean, the fact is that it's

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Speaker 3: a statement of truth, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: It is a statement of truth. But you know, his son,

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Speaker 6: Robbie catter who's in the State Parliament of Queensland, came

447
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Speaker 6: out and he said little Dad's relationship with his father

448
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Speaker 6: was complicated. There was something about oh I had a

449
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Speaker 6: mother too, and she didn't come from Lebanon. I mean,

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Speaker 6: what's the matter with the guys. I mean, unless you

451
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Speaker 6: are indigenous, everyone's new here, everyone's arrived here subsequent Chata

452
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Speaker 6: has no acception and for them to carry on like

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Speaker 6: a pork chop was something so trivial. It's just it

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Speaker 6: speaks to that that's just how pathetic a fellow is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Mars, listen, thanks so much, appreciated Murray

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Speaker 3: Old's Australia correspondent. Ever, do, by the way, on that

457
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Speaker 3: little meeting on the sidelines that we just mentioned in

458
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Speaker 3: the World Wise before between Narenda Modri, Narendra Modi and

459
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Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin that the chappho runs India and the champoo

460
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Speaker 3: runs runs Russia, you do realize it happened in the car,

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Speaker 3: which is a very it's a very like in vogue

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Speaker 3: way for world meeting leaders to get alone with each

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Speaker 3: other and have a little meeting. I'm in the Trump

464
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Speaker 3: and Putin spit a bit, spent a bit of time

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Speaker 3: in the beast over in Alaska. And everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: what did they discuss?

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Speaker 4: Oh what?

468
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Speaker 3: Probably the pawn video that Putin's got on Trump, But

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Speaker 3: that's just a conspiracy theory. But anyway, so anyway, these

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Speaker 3: two are sitting in the car. They are in there

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Speaker 3: for forty five minutes. Now, listen, I don't mind a

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Speaker 3: car meeting because sometimes you know, I'll go like, do

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Speaker 3: a yoga class with one of my friends and then

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Speaker 3: she'll drop me off at home and then you know you,

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Speaker 3: you did not quite finished with your chat about whatever.

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Speaker 3: You sit there for five minutes finishing the chat off,

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Speaker 3: go inside, But forty five minutes in a car with

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Speaker 3: another bloke that is a hell of a long time.

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Speaker 3: That's basically hot boxing, and not even with drugs. You're

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Speaker 3: just hot boxing it with your body odors. That's disgusting. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: whatever up to them, Barry Soap is gonna be with

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Speaker 3: us shortly. Can I just tell you very quickly what's

483
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Speaker 3: happened with the ugly bridge and Wellington? You know the one?

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Speaker 3: This is the City to See Bridge, which they which

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Speaker 3: Wellington outlets not ironically describe as iconic. There's nothing iconic

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Speaker 3: about it. It just looks like you ran out of

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Speaker 3: money and then you went down to the beach and

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Speaker 3: you've got some bits of wood and you nailed them

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Speaker 3: together just to try and make it. It's like looks

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Speaker 3: like a makeshift bridge, doesn't it, And the faster like

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Speaker 3: what do you think world leaders think when they come

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Speaker 3: to Wellington? They go, what the hell is it?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: They used to beg old bridges with ben shen and

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Speaker 3: bits of metal and it's all flash and neon lights

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Speaker 3: at night in Wellington's like look at our bradg looks

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Speaker 3: like drift work Colai and they're like, wow, how poor

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Speaker 3: are you? People? Anyway, diverted. The thing I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: tell you is that the court has said that that

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Speaker 3: thing can now be demolished. Because remember, there are actual

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Speaker 3: numpties in Wellington who want to save it. Good I

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Speaker 3: really knows what's going on in that city. Sometimes they

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Speaker 3: decided they want to save it. They've gone to court,

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Speaker 3: they've lost, Thank god. The council can now demolish it.

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Speaker 3: But the Numpties have got twenty days to appeal this.

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Speaker 3: But the Wellington City Council, that one of the few

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Speaker 3: times I think they're doing the right thing, has gone.

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Speaker 3: I've got twenty days to appeal that. We give them

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Speaker 3: three and if they haven't appealed by Thursday, we're knocking

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Speaker 3: it down on Friday. And do you know what, all

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Speaker 3: power to them. I can't wait for it. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to one of the councilors, Nicola Young about

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Speaker 3: this in about half an hour's time. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 3: If you haven't heard the yarn about the guy who

517
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Speaker 3: got struck by lightning yesterday, stand by because I'm going

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Speaker 3: to tell you that before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's thirteen away from five and Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: Senior Political Correspondence with US.

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Speaker 15: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Hither.

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Speaker 15: I quite liked the bridge in Wellington. It's sort of

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Speaker 15: art nouveaux, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's it is it art?

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Speaker 15: It's a bit different?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Is that the same reason that you wore bow ties

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Speaker 3: for thirty five years? Just a bit different? Actually, with

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Speaker 3: that statement, I think we've just realized that nothing that

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Speaker 3: you say from here on it about whether something looks

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Speaker 3: cool or not.

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Speaker 15: We just I'll tell you when I was wearing those

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Speaker 15: bow ties, and you're absolutely right. You wouldn't believe how

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Speaker 15: many politicians, including cabinet ministers, came up to me and said,

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Speaker 15: I wish, I wish I had the courage to wear

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Speaker 15: a bow tie. And I wore them because in Wellington,

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Speaker 15: your tirees fly all over the place. Bow tirees were

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Speaker 15: quite convenient.

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Speaker 3: Yep, okay, cool anyway, So have you had a look

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Speaker 3: at the New Zealand Initiative Report and the number of

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Speaker 3: ministers and ministries.

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Speaker 15: Yes, I have, and it is interesting and when you

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Speaker 15: look at it, you go for goodness sake. I mean,

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Speaker 15: one of the things that I would say is that

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Speaker 15: eighty one ministerial portfolios is patently ridiculous. You look at

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Speaker 15: MB for example, it has twenty different ministers, so you

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Speaker 15: can imagine making a decision. You've got to consult with

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Speaker 15: all your fellow ministers and arrive at a decision. That's

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Speaker 15: why government comes to a standstill at time twenty eight

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Speaker 15: ministers and forty three departments. Now we know that Brian

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Speaker 15: Roach his ambition is to streamline the public service, to

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Speaker 15: reduce the departments, and I think that's certainly around the corner.

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Speaker 15: But they cited countries like Ireland and Singapore as proof

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Speaker 15: that you can effectively operate with between fifteen and twenty

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Speaker 15: ministers and portfolios, and they're saying New Zealand should certainly

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Speaker 15: cut back. But if you look at those countries as

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Speaker 15: I have done, well you know they're different to New Zealand.

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Speaker 15: Because New Zealand we've got MMP, we've got to accommodate

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Speaker 15: other parties within our ministries and you know they well,

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Speaker 15: certainly Singapore doesn't have to it's a one party state,

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Speaker 15: but certainly Ireland and Norway they are coalition governments, so

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Speaker 15: they can do so with fewer, many fewer ministers than

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Speaker 15: what we've got here. So you know, the argument I

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Speaker 15: think is a good one. I went back over ministries

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Speaker 15: just in recent years. The long E government, the Longy

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Speaker 15: cabinet that was forty years ago, they had twenty ministers

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Speaker 15: and twenty ministries, so that's incredible and forty years ago,

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Speaker 15: so many fewer. It started to grow after MMP in

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Speaker 15: nineteen ninety six. Of course, the Clerk government, it had

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Speaker 15: twenty ministers though, but then they started appointing ministers outside

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Speaker 15: of cabinet. There were eight ministers in her government out

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Speaker 15: side of cabinet. So that's where the problem has arisen

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Speaker 15: that we have bent over to accommodate other parties. But

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Speaker 15: you imagine if you've got a big caucus and you're

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Speaker 15: the National Party for example. They don't have such a

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Speaker 15: big caucus, but if you did have, you had to

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Speaker 15: keep your caucus happy, and dolling out ministries is one

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Speaker 15: way to do that. If you haven't got the ability

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Speaker 15: to do that. There's a lot of there would be

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Speaker 15: a lot of talk going on behind the scene.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean that's kind of what happens in

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Speaker 3: That's what happens in the UK, where the executive is

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Speaker 3: so small in contrast to the size of the party,

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Speaker 3: so you've always got the backbenches causing trouble at Listen,

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Speaker 3: do you reckon National? National can say right now that

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Speaker 3: they're going to stay in the Paris coord and that's

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Speaker 3: their policy, But what do you reckon happens after the election?

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Speaker 15: Well, yes, I think the side of the election they

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Speaker 15: will stay in the Paris Accord. And nobody's withdrawn from

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Speaker 15: the parents Cord yet the US has Well I was

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Speaker 15: just going to say, but the US, they've done it

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Speaker 15: twice under Donald Trump, and they're formal withdrawal takes place

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Speaker 15: in January next year. That's the second one. But look,

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Speaker 15: the Paris Accord. I heard Petty Luckman on with you,

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Speaker 15: and I think what he's essentially saying is that it's

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Speaker 15: better than nothing. So have you got people pulling out

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Speaker 15: of it or countries pulling out of it, then you're

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Speaker 15: left with really nothing. Although the Paris Accord. The goals

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Speaker 15: that are set within it are very, very high. Luxton

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Speaker 15: was asked today what his position was, and he said

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Speaker 15: that pulling out of Paris would be the quickest way

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Speaker 15: to hurt New Zealand farmers. But he seemed to argue

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Speaker 15: it on the basis that of image that if you're

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Speaker 15: off the shelves in some countries you produce, you're outside

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Speaker 15: the Paris Accord, then the people will shop elsewhere and

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Speaker 15: other countries will export.

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Speaker 8: But I really don't.

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Speaker 15: Think that's going to affect them in that way. I

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Speaker 15: think the Paris Accord is more damaging to because of

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Speaker 15: its very nature and what it imposes on farmers and

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Speaker 15: what they have to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a fair argument, right, And I feel as

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Speaker 3: if you have to do the costs of each right,

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Speaker 3: is it more exp like do we take a great

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Speaker 3: is there a greater loss if we pull out? Or

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Speaker 3: is there a greater loss by staying in? And at

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Speaker 3: the moment, I mean, jeez, Berry, you've got people who

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Speaker 3: can't turn the heater on in their houses when Huntly

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Speaker 3: fires and that's the because of climate INSI and that's

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Speaker 3: the problem, And is the worth it for us?

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Speaker 15: No, it's not and it's certainly not worth it importing

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Speaker 15: coal from Indonesia when we could have been mining it

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Speaker 15: here because we need it. We don't have the alternatives

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Speaker 15: at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much. Appreciate it very so

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Speaker 3: for senior political correspondent eight away from five putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: So we got there at last. The deal has been

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Speaker 16: struck for the Golden visa holders. They can buy or

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Speaker 16: build a house to the value of five million dollars

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Speaker 16: plus crystal actions back with.

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Speaker 8: I mean the coal things.

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Speaker 17: We've had three hundred applicants clying for less active list

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Speaker 17: of visa.

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Speaker 8: That's almost two billion dollars. Isn't having the economy on

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Speaker 8: April one?

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Speaker 3: That's now here.

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Speaker 16: Winston Peter's New Zealand first leader is with us. Did

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Speaker 16: you have to get dragged kicking and screaming to this

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Speaker 16: particular conclusion.

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Speaker 17: My ANX was about those who have said in the

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Speaker 17: mainstream media they can't get their head around it. The

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Speaker 17: business not change through the foreign buyers man, it's a

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Speaker 17: change to the investment rules to act people to come

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Speaker 17: to this country for money that we definitely.

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Speaker 16: Need back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 16: with a Vida News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heither, if we pull out of the Paris Accord, it

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Speaker 3: will have minimal impact on farm exports because where do

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Speaker 3: farm exports mainly go China and America, So no problems there,

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Speaker 3: thank you, Lloyd. Obviously China doesn't care because they're not

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Speaker 3: actually this is a pretendy, pretendy that they're doing something about Paris.

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Speaker 3: They're not really, and America doesn't care because they're pulling out.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate that text, by the way, on the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Initiative reports suggesting that what we need to

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Speaker 3: do is consolidate the public service like massively and rarely

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Speaker 3: get rid of like just merge a whole bunch of departments,

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Speaker 3: get rid of a whole bunch of portfolios. We want

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Speaker 3: to speak to Brian wrote about it. He's the guy

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Speaker 3: running the public sector. We're just trying to organize an

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Speaker 3: interview with him later in the week, so hopefully we'll

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Speaker 3: be able to get him.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: What have you got? It's Libby's in charge today. What

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Speaker 3: have you got? Libby? Of the Black Seeds? Of the

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Speaker 3: Black Seeds, because can you believe they're still alive? I

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Speaker 3: mean they must be like seventy five now I've been

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Speaker 3: going forever. Anyway, the Black Seeds are playing at Home Grown,

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Speaker 3: so there's another one of the ones that are going

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Speaker 3: to be there. Next up, we'll have a chat to

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Speaker 3: David Seymour about pulling out of the Paris Accord. And

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Speaker 3: also one of the luxury real estate agents who reckon

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Speaker 3: his phone is just going off at the moment. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I've meant to tell you about the lightning, but I've

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Speaker 3: run out of time, so stand by. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tell you about the lightning in the next half hour.

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Speaker 1: So the only drive show you can to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find the fact the same and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis. Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and the power of satellite mobile News Dog's Heavy Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: The Paris Climate Accord needs to change or New Zealand

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Speaker 3: needs to leave. That's the message from the ACT Party.

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Speaker 3: This means both of National's coalition partners now want to

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Speaker 3: leave or evaluate the Paris agreement. To ACT Party leader

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Speaker 3: David Seymour's with us now, Hi, David, Hey, Okay, so

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Speaker 3: you say it has to reform or we leave. So

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Speaker 3: what's the reform that you want to see?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think the best reform would be something that

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Speaker 18: reflects our own emissions profile, where a country like some

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Speaker 18: in South America that have a very high exposure around

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Speaker 18: methane less so around CO two and the guesses that

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Speaker 18: you might relate to cities or industry, and at the

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Speaker 18: moment we face being punished for being a methane heavy economy.

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Speaker 18: I think it's about time that we perhaps along with

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Speaker 18: like minded nations. I'm thinking South American nations like Uruguay

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Speaker 18: that have a lot of livestock, also a lot of

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Speaker 18: Southeast Asian nations which produce a lot of rice, which

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Speaker 18: it turns out actually produces a lot of methane. We

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Speaker 18: should be going to Powis saying, hang on a minute.

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Speaker 18: Instead of our government officials making representations to the public

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Speaker 18: that pay them on behalf of these global institutions, maybe

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Speaker 18: they should actually be going on our behalf overseas to say,

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Speaker 18: you guys need to give a fair deal to methane

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Speaker 18: heavy economies. Because methane is a very different gas. It

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Speaker 18: has a much different effect on climate because it breaks

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Speaker 18: down over time, and therefore that scientific reality needs to

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Speaker 18: be recognized. Maybe then we should stay in it because

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Speaker 18: we like to be good global citizens. But like a

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Speaker 18: bad boyfriend, if the abuse continues and it doesn't change,

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Speaker 18: then I think we need to pull out.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: National says we can't pull out because if we do,

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Speaker 3: our farmers get punished and pulled off shelves. Is that

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Speaker 3: what happens?

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Speaker 18: Well, that is what some people in the sector will say.

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Speaker 18: So Miles Hrrel, for example, sat down with him a

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Speaker 18: month back. I think he's a hell of a great guy, Miles,

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Speaker 18: and that's an argument that he's made. However, I just

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Speaker 18: make the point that the New Zealand agricultural sector is

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Speaker 18: known for its world beating innovation. Everybody is trying to

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Speaker 18: create a mix of products that actually appeal to foreign

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Speaker 18: customers according to their taste, and some people are going

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Speaker 18: above and beyond and actually doing zero carbon beef and

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Speaker 18: so on. They don't need the entire country to do

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Speaker 18: that in order for them to succeed. Likewise, there are

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Speaker 18: others who are selling to customers and markets who have

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Speaker 18: other concerns. So I don't believe that it needs to

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Speaker 18: be one size fits all as a country. I believe

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Speaker 18: what is important is that New Zealand as a country

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Speaker 18: does its bit, but does not drive the most efficient

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Speaker 18: farmers in the world out of business, so that used

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Speaker 18: to be customers end up buying their food from farmers

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Speaker 18: overseas that actually emit more per calorie of nutrition than

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Speaker 18: we do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So are you arguing that if Miles Hurrell wants

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Speaker 3: to continue to supply people who want to buy milk

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Speaker 3: and various products that are climate friendly, he can continue

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Speaker 3: to do so without us being in the Paris Accord.

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Speaker 18: He absolutely can, because ultimately, if you're a major supplier

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Speaker 18: and you're dealing with say a n Essay, then you

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Speaker 18: have the ability to make a deal with them. And

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Speaker 18: I know there's the argument, and I've gone back and

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Speaker 18: forth with various people say, oh, the rest of the

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Speaker 18: world just sees one brand, brand New Zealand. I actually

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Speaker 18: don't believe that is how most of the New Zealand

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Speaker 18: agricultural sector works. Actually, they are very sharp at innovating

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Speaker 18: and offering product offerings that are recognized for their merit

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Speaker 18: rather than their origin.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuf David appreciate it, by the way. Actually, before

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Speaker 3: I let you go do you reckon you can convince.

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Speaker 18: National Well, we've got a pretty good track record if

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Speaker 18: you look at the influence that actors had over this

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Speaker 18: government is I think profound and I'm very proud of

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Speaker 18: what we're doing to make New Zealand a better place.

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Speaker 18: So watch this space.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, David David Seymore AXX Party leader eleven past

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Speaker 3: five Here the duplicy Allen right, Well, real estate agents

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Speaker 3: reckon that their phones are already ringing with calls from

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Speaker 3: prospective overseas buyers today the government has announced it will

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Speaker 3: ease the foreign Buyers Band for Golden visa holders wanting

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Speaker 3: to buy a house for more than five million bucks.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Mouzenkov is a luxury real estate agent with Forbes

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Speaker 3: Global and with US.

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Speaker 10: High Anthony, Hi, ever, thank you for having me on

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Speaker 10: the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks for coming back. How many calls

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Speaker 3: have you fielded today?

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Speaker 10: I don't know, it's been quite a view. The line

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Speaker 10: has been going for the last couple of weeks. The

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Speaker 10: lion has been going continuously and day and night. As

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Speaker 10: we get a lot of people from the United States,

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Speaker 10: especially the United States, and from especially northern Europe.

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Speaker 3: And how much do they want to spend.

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Speaker 10: I've got clients that got over one hundred million to

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Speaker 10: spend here in New Zealand, not on a house, not

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Speaker 10: in a house, but five million dollars for a house

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Speaker 10: is for them.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty easy money change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do they want to do? Do they want to

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Speaker 3: buy or build?

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Speaker 10: There's both there. I think there's a I think there

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Speaker 10: would be a I wouldn't know the exact numbers, but

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Speaker 10: it would be on any pretty even keel. We're dealing

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Speaker 10: with new bills at the moment and there's a big

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Speaker 10: interest in that, and especially if there's good named architectsure involved.

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Speaker 10: There's certain interest on that side as well.

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Speaker 3: And where in the country are they looking at.

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Speaker 10: It's mainly Queenstown Wannaka Auckland area. And the problem with

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Speaker 10: this legislation is what they've done here now at the

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Speaker 10: concentration of those buyers will be going diverted to those

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Speaker 10: two areas. It's a little bit of a shame that

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Speaker 10: they aren't able to put more into the regions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point, actually, Anthony, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Best of lucky that Anthony Morsenkoff for luxury real estate

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Speaker 3: agent together do for c Allen. Finally, gosh, this has

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Speaker 3: been going on forever, isn't it. Finally we know who's

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Speaker 3: going to replace Anna Wintour as the editor of Vogue.

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Speaker 3: It is Chloe Marl. Chloe Marl is a the po baby,

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Speaker 3: which is unfortunate for Chloe's She might actually be quite capable.

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Speaker 3: But only thing we know about Chloe is that she's

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Speaker 3: the daughter of Candice Bergen, who was in Murphy Brown

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Speaker 3: and the director in the screenwriter Louis Mahl. But she

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Speaker 3: has actually worked at Vogue for about fourteen years. She

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Speaker 3: runs vogue dot com so and by the way, in

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Speaker 3: a kind of a nice little circle. Candace, her mum,

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Speaker 3: played the editor of Vogue on Sex and the City.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. But anyway, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be replacing Anna Wintour, would you.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like that woman would like she'd be

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Speaker 3: one of those ones to be like, yes, I'm retired,

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Speaker 3: while basically still micromanaging you to death. Fourteen past five. Listen,

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Speaker 3: we need to talk about some ev myths. You know

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Speaker 3: the one. This is one of the myths, you know,

818
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Speaker 3: the one about how the batteries only last a few years.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. The BYD blade battery has an eight

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Speaker 3: year warranty, but it is actually designed to last a

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Speaker 3: lot longer. It's actually known as the one hundred year battery,

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Speaker 3: so it should last about thirty odd years in your car,

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Speaker 3: and then another fifty to seventy years. Is like a

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Speaker 3: storage standby battery for I don't know, maybe your house

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Speaker 3: if you want it. You know, the myth about how

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Speaker 3: evs are no good in an emergency also wrong. Actually,

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Speaker 3: if the power goes out, what you want to do

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Speaker 3: is plunk your household appliances and your medical equipment, and

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Speaker 3: your fridges and your water pumps straight into your BYD.

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Speaker 3: It will last you ages. And then when you get

831
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Speaker 3: low on battery, you always have at least fifteen percent

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Speaker 3: power left to drive to an area where there is power,

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Speaker 3: charge up, and bring that power back home. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the myth about how evs are not good for the

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Speaker 3: planet and they produce a lot of CO two actually wrong.

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Speaker 3: As well, as of July thirty first, BYD has saved

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Speaker 3: over one hundred and six billion CAGs of CO two,

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Speaker 3: which is equal to planting one point seven billion trees,

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Speaker 3: which is a forest. Thirty two times the size of

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Speaker 3: Greater Wellington. Go on check it out for yourself and

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Speaker 3: dispel the myths for yourself as well byd Auto dot

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Speaker 3: co dot nz. Ever, yesterday Bishop was on the show.

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop was on the show yesterday in place of

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Speaker 3: Nikola Willis and it was awesome, by the way, and

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Speaker 3: so never mind, so fun to for so fun to

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Speaker 3: chat too. There's a lot in this guy. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: the point I'm trying to get to is we spoke

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Speaker 3: to him about the gang patch banter. Remember how the

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Speaker 3: judge gave the patch back to the bungrel mob member

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Speaker 3: and he said to us last night, Chris, he said, no,

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Speaker 3: you need to talk to Paul Goldsmith about that. So

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Speaker 3: we are. He's going to be with us after half past.

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Speaker 3: It's eighteen past five now Wellington. Wellington City Council might

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Speaker 3: start knocking down that ugly City to See bridge as

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Speaker 3: early as Friday because they've won a court case against

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Speaker 3: the group wanting to keep the bridge. Nikola Young is

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Speaker 3: a Wellington City councilor and with us high Nikola, Hi,

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Speaker 3: do you reckon the other lot will appeal?

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Speaker 19: Look, I don't know, but there were six councilors who opposed.

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Speaker 19: I opposed the demolition because the bridges a much safer

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Speaker 19: way to cross the state highway than a pedestrian crossing.

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Speaker 19: And you know, we are overwhelmed by the number of

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Speaker 19: people who are contacting us. Now I think we will

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Speaker 19: there are ways of trying to stop it. But what

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Speaker 19: has been made very clear to me by the Chief

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Speaker 19: Executive with whom I spoke today was at the beginning

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Speaker 19: of the judicial review, the two sets of lawyers agreed

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Speaker 19: that if the council one, they would have three days

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Speaker 19: the Civic Trust would have three days to appeal. So

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00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 19: the Council is just following the process. The officers have

871
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 19: the authority to enact the decision to demolish the bridge,

872
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 19: so it's just a matter of what we do to

873
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 19: try and change it. So we're looking at doing a

874
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 19: notice of revocation yep, carry on. That has to go

875
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 19: to the same committee, and then because we are coming

876
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 19: to the end of the trianium, we'd have to call

877
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 19: a special meeting for it. So it's a matter of

878
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 19: whether we have the support for the notice of revocation

879
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 19: and for the extra meeting. Who knows, but we are

880
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 19: going to try it because the number of Wellingtonians who

881
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 19: want to retain the bridge, you know, like it or

882
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 19: putting it aside the aesthetics, it's a safety aspect. It's

883
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 19: a lovely way to cross over to the waterfront rather

884
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 19: than going through it over a pedestrian crossing.

885
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Can I just ask which of these two options is

886
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: cheaper to knock the bridge down and replace it with

887
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: a functional, smaller bridge, or to keep the bridge and

888
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: strengthen it.

889
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 19: Well, of course they're saying they'll knock it down have

890
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 19: a pedestrian crossing in the interim, but you know what

891
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 19: happens in Wednington that the pedestrian crossing will stay forever.

892
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 19: It's hard to say hither because you never know where

893
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 19: the numbers we get. Because we've been told by some

894
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 19: other engineers that the prices we've been quoted are far

895
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 19: too high. And I'm not an engineer and I'm not

896
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 19: a quantity surveyor, so I wouldn't know. But we just think,

897
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 19: we have to think. Weddington has been full of roads

898
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 19: being ripped up, buildings being pulled down, road cones everywhere.

899
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: Enough, you know, let's just.

900
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 19: Keep the bridge and work around it.

901
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: Brilliant Nichola, Thank you very much. I do appreciate your time.

902
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: That's Nicola Young, Wellington City councilor this is what happens

903
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 3: when you can no longer trust your officials, and Wellington

904
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: City Council officials have absolutely done this to themselves.

905
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Right.

906
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: I've got to tell you the lightning story. We're getting

907
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: there five twenty.

908
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

909
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: It's Heather dupicl and Drive with One Zealand coverage like

910
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: no one else's news talks.

911
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: They'd be five twenty three. So the millionaire who snatched

912
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: the cap from the boy at the tennis has broken

913
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: his silence and apologized. He said it was a huge mistake.

914
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: He said he didn't realize that he'd taken the boy's hat.

915
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: He thought it was meant for his son's and he

916
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: says his quote, single moment of indifference could destroy years

917
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: of his work. What a load of tosh. If you

918
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: watch that footage, you know that he can see that

919
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: the boy. He knows that boy is there for a second.

920
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: If if you freeze from it, you'll see for a

921
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: second his hand is on the cap at the same

922
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: time that that little boy's hand is on the cap,

923
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: and he snatches it off the boy. Then he tries

924
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: to body block the boy while he's putting the cap

925
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: in his wife's bag. He knows the boy is there

926
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: because the boy is literally crying at him, and then

927
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: at one point he hands a pen to the boy.

928
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: So tell me you don't know the boy is there.

929
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: No one is going to believe this nonsense from him.

930
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: And if I had to predict things, I would say

931
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: he's made the situation a lot worse for himself by lying.

932
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: He should just have fesced up and said, yeah, look,

933
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: I was a dick. I'm sorry. But isn't this an

934
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: interesting mirror, isn't it of the cold Play couple? In

935
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: both cases, you've got chief executives doing something that they

936
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't like others to see at a public event, caught

937
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: on camera, going viral, threatening their careers. Now, I would

938
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: not be surprised if people rush to this clown's defense

939
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: in the same way that people weirdly rush to the

940
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 3: defense of the cold Play couple. And look, I would

941
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 3: agree losing your job for a moment, or being caught

942
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: having an affair or whatever. I think it is a

943
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: harsh punishment, and we can debate whether it's reasonable but

944
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 3: learn the lesson already. It's twenty twenty five. There are

945
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: cameras everywhere. Anything can go global from anywhere, and anyone

946
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: can be traced and anyone can be exposed. Don't do

947
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: anything in public that you don't want everyone to see,

948
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: because we can. And if you do do that, because look,

949
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: we are human and we're going to make mistakes, be

950
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: honest and say you're sorry immediately. And if you choose

951
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: not to do that, like this guy, don't moan that

952
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: this is how it works, because we've seen this happen

953
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 3: twice now in about three months. No one can claim

954
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: that they didn't realize that this is how global mob

955
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: punishment runs out ever seen right, here's the lightning yewn

956
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: for you. So Chris Wilson of Westport was hit by

957
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 3: lightning yesterday. He didn't die because he reckons. His gum

958
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: boot saved his life. So what happened is he's on

959
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: his quad bike herding cows into the milking shed about

960
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: six am and the lightning strikes. He said it was

961
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: the whitest light I've ever seen. He says he passed

962
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: out and then he woke up, slumped over the bike

963
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: and couldn't see. Couldn't see for about five to ten minutes.

964
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: The herd of four hundred cows had already scarped to

965
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: the back paddock. Back of the paddock, and his quad

966
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: bike wouldn't go, so he started herding them with his

967
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: torch by the sounds of things on foot. About ten

968
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: minutes later, the lights on the bikes finally start flickering,

969
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: so then he drives the cows to the shed and

970
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: carries on working. At breakfast time, he goes on for breakfast,

971
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: he spews a little bit and his missus was like,

972
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: you better go to the doctor. And I was like, oh,

973
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: maybe he had a migraine and his eyes felt like

974
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: they were burning. So he did take himself off to

975
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: Ballah Hospital, got checked over, and they sent him home.

976
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: He says he was more gutted about his gum boots

977
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: because it burned a hole in the gum boots. He

978
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: called the manufacturer scaler up to tell them that the

979
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: gum boots had saved his life. He reckons it's a

980
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: good thing he bought the expensive gum boots, because if

981
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: he bought the cheap gum boots, he's not sure if

982
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: he would have survived. He's back at work today. His

983
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: farm bike is working mint, he says, because the lightning

984
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: must have charged up the battery. So there you go,

985
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: you can survive a lightning strike. Holy heck. Keep an

986
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 3: eye on that one. Do you know that's where Maureen

987
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: pu lives, isn't it as well? And she's been struck

988
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: by lightning about eighty five thousand times. So it's a

989
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: thing that happens there really quickly. It's the nurse's strike.

990
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: Happened today and it's going to happen on Thursday as well.

991
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: Did you see what Simeon Brown did? They're demonstrating outside

992
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: his office because they're striking, so his staff printed out

993
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: a message to them and stuck it on the windows.

994
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: And I think how they did it was they took

995
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: a full pages and on each a full page they

996
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: printed a letter, and it looks to me like they're

997
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: about sixty one or sixty two of these pages. Stuck

998
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: them up on the window and it says NZN union

999
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: strike disrupts more than third teen thousand surgeries and appointments,

1000
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: which I quite enjoyed because he's not taking this one.

1001
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: Lying down news us next and then we're off to

1002
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: have a chat to Goldie about what we're gonna do

1003
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: about the judge giving the gang patch back. What if

1004
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: we got here sons of Zion, drift away, enjoy just.

1005
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: Drift away, hard questions, strong opinion here the duplicy Ellen

1006
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and the power of Satellite

1007
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Mobile News Dog said, be.

1008
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super groove. You got to know so if

1009
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: you're of that generation then you love these guys. It's

1010
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: actually probably a good time for you. The boss, the

1011
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: New Zealand Boss of Amazon's going to be with us

1012
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: after six o'clock talk us through that big investment that

1013
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: Luxel's absolutely stoked about today. And we've got the huddle

1014
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: standing by clear delaw and Stuart Nash will be with

1015
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: us right now. It's twenty five away from six now.

1016
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: The Justice Minister is heading back a criticism over the

1017
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: gang patch law. The criticisms cropped up after a judge

1018
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: gave a confiscated patch back to among the mob member

1019
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: because of Tea Kanger. Paul Goldsmith is the Justice Minister

1020
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: and with us, Hey, Paul.

1021
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 8: Good afternoon, Heather. Yes, how are.

1022
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: You You sound like you're worried about what's going to happen.

1023
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, obviously, look the fastest way for a

1024
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 14: Minister of Justice to get sectors to criticize individual judges decision.

1025
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 14: So I'm not going to be doing that or commenting

1026
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 14: on it.

1027
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 3: I won't have to say that now, I won't ask

1028
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: you to. What I want to know is whether you're

1029
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: going to change the law to force the destruction of

1030
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: the patches so they can't be handed back.

1031
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 14: Well, if we need to, we will. I mean, obviously

1032
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 14: there's a legal process to go through. It may be appealed.

1033
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 14: I don't know, and so we'll wait and see how

1034
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 14: that all plays out. And if we find that we've

1035
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 14: got a problem with the legislation, will fix it. But

1036
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 14: you know, it's been very successful in a large number

1037
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 14: of cases so far and certainly send out a clear message.

1038
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 14: And I think everybody in the community has seen the difference.

1039
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we know that. We know that, and I

1040
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: mean this is one judge and on one mong l member.

1041
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: But when you warned that this might happen if you didn't,

1042
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: if you didn't destroy the patches.

1043
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 14: Well, I look, I mean we passed legislation. We think

1044
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 14: it's very very clear, and so you know, there's a

1045
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 14: broader issue around.

1046
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: Well.

1047
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 14: I mean, look, it's an issue that an individual judge

1048
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 14: makes a decision. I can't comment on that. I'm not

1049
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 14: going to comment on that, and so I've just stopped

1050
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 14: talking before I do.

1051
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: Do you make fair enough? Do you make the decision

1052
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: as to whether appeal, whether to appeal or is that no? No, no, no,

1053
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: that's again totally independent.

1054
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 14: That's up to the police, I suppose.

1055
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Now listen on another subject. You're making some

1056
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: changes to help event organizers get liquor licenses. What are

1057
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: you doing well?

1058
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 14: I mean, last week we announced our creative strategy, which

1059
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 14: has got two elements to it. We want to increase

1060
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 14: the number of New Zealanders engaging with the arts and

1061
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 14: the creative sector more generally. And then secondly, we want

1062
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 14: to make more money out of the arts and it's

1063
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 14: a potentially big export area for the country and so forth.

1064
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 14: And you know, one of the things that we sometimes

1065
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 14: don't recognize as many people in the creative sector generally

1066
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 14: small businesses trying to make a buck and it's no

1067
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 14: different to any other business. We want to make life

1068
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 14: a bit easier for them. And I remember saying talking

1069
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 14: to an arts audience and somebody saying, well, you know, actually,

1070
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 14: the most useful thing you can do for me, I'm

1071
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 14: a music promoter and I have sections make it not

1072
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 14: so goddamn hard to get a lect a license for

1073
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 14: a special concert that I'm putting on. And so we

1074
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 14: responded to that, and so now the legislation that's coming

1075
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 14: to be coming through will when it comes to a

1076
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 14: large scale event, will increase it from four hundred people

1077
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 14: to two thousand people before you have to go through

1078
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 14: an event management plan and then we'll have you only

1079
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 14: have to do it if it's based on a framework

1080
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 14: and basically just try and take out some red tape

1081
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 14: for people just trying to get a group of people together,

1082
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 14: recognizing that when you listen to music having a party,

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Speaker 14: sometimes it's quite nice to have a beer.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it is. Thank you, Paul, I appreciate it. Paul Goldsmith,

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Speaker 3: the Justice Minister. Twenty one away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 3: On the huddle with me At the moment we have

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Speaker 3: Stuart Nash, former Labor Party minister, and Clear the Lord journalists.

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Speaker 2: What were you saying to you, I mean for good

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Speaker 2: and say, Goldie, grow some balls those gang patures, burn them,

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Speaker 2: bury them, blow them up, put them, says of acid.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just say that every kere we're apart

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Speaker 2: from gang members.

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Speaker 3: Once a sea, the Labour Party and the Labor Party, well, hey,

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Speaker 3: the vast.

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Speaker 2: Majority keeps in the cord to Poles. I want to

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Speaker 2: see those pictures done away with. So I would say, Goldie,

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Speaker 2: just put them in bats of acid and get rid

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 20: A good campaignings to well, I know, but which party

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Speaker 20: would it be?

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Speaker 3: New Zealand?

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Speaker 8: Are you giving me an opportunity once again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Now, because you're totally biased, and because I know you're

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Speaker 3: just going to give us the New Zealand first line, potentially,

1108
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go to you first clear. Do you

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Speaker 3: think you reform the Paris Agreement like David Semoll says,

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Speaker 3: or pull out? What if I'm a bit of an

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Speaker 3: old softy softy for what?

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Speaker 20: Well, you know, I know that it's it's tough in

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Speaker 20: many ways, and it's possibly unattainable. I'd rather be failed

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Speaker 20: inside it than walked away from it. And the reason is,

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Speaker 20: I think Peter Gluckman alluded to it because I think

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00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 20: so many of our multilateral organizations are failing, and our

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00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 20: agreements of falling over international cooperation is less than it was.

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Speaker 20: I think we need more of it and we need

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Speaker 20: to stay. But would you be okay with reforming it?

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Speaker 14: At least?

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Speaker 3: I think, Look, why not look at reforming it? Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, but I would rather be stayed inside it. I

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Speaker 20: think walking away from it is yet another chink in

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Speaker 20: the even side front of the web.

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Speaker 3: Because because look, I mean, I think most of us

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Speaker 3: would agree we've got to try for the climate. But

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Speaker 3: even at the expense of Kiwis who now cannot heat

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Speaker 3: their houses when Huntley is fired up, Well it's home

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Speaker 3: raised incomes. Eh, that would be good. Okay, I suppose

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Speaker 3: we come in. We could also, you know, plant some

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Speaker 3: money trees or something like that that might help you.

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Speaker 3: Don't we could No, Actually, that's another conversation for another day.

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Speaker 3: What do you think to you? Look, I apologize.

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Speaker 8: Look, this is about brand New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 2: We have a brand on the global stage which is clean, Green,

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Speaker 2: hunts and Pure. It started out as a tourism brand.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of morphed into our natural brand national brand.

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Speaker 2: If we walk away from this. I think it has

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Speaker 2: the risk of devaluing our global brand and everything that

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders or not everything that everyone oversees thinks that

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders. I mean I look behind you, Heather and

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Speaker 2: you for your listeners. There's a Bohoda charactory, a beautiful

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Speaker 2: beach and a fantastic scene. That is what oversees people

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Speaker 2: perceive that New Zealanders. We pull out of this, it's

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Speaker 2: just one other thing that slowly erodes that brand on

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Speaker 2: the global stage.

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Speaker 3: And who's buying this brand.

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Speaker 2: The people who are coming over, the tourists, the Golden

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Speaker 2: visa applicants.

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Speaker 3: You know at the moment, what's pulling us out of

1152
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Speaker 3: the recession, well farmer farmers And where are the farmers

1153
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Speaker 3: selling their stuff but the US and China. So actually,

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Speaker 3: while we love this brand, I just want us to

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Speaker 3: test this.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: While we love this brand and we should love the

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Speaker 3: brand and we should protect it, actually our money is

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Speaker 3: coming from the two biggest pollution.

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Speaker 2: But also remember that people pay a premium for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand products because the perception of what of where the

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Speaker 2: stuff comes from. You know, we're talking about cows frolicking

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Speaker 2: under the beautiful Mount Taranaki and all this sort of

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Speaker 2: carent You devalue that brand and you will not get

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Speaker 2: a premium.

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Speaker 3: What about if if there is sufficient momentum pulling out

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Speaker 3: of the accord. Right, you've got the US out already,

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Speaker 3: what if more countries start piling into it and we're

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Speaker 3: a fast follower.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, Clea's talked about amending it. Let's look at

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Speaker 2: amending it before we pull.

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Speaker 8: Out of it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I wish I had the power, but clear, but

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Speaker 3: what if we have got sufficient momentum and people are

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Speaker 3: piling the countries are piling out of it.

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Speaker 20: That they are not at the moment? The United States

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Speaker 20: notably has bailed out twice and some haven't. A very

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Speaker 20: few haven't signed up. I think it's really important to

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Speaker 20: try and stick together on some fronts. Even if we

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Speaker 20: fail somehow, I would rather that it stayed. Still makes

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Speaker 20: some very good points about New Zealand's international image. I

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Speaker 20: think also part of the international image is that we're

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Speaker 20: pretty good in multi letteral organizations. We're actually kind of reliable.

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Speaker 20: For New Zealand to walk away, I actually do think

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Speaker 20: that would be really noted, So I hope we don't Claire.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's weird that Clark and Key are

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Speaker 3: at the China Summit.

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Speaker 20: I don't think it's weird, but it is a weird

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Speaker 20: summit anyway. It's what it a summit. It's an eightieth

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Speaker 20: commemoration of the end of the war. I was at

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Speaker 20: the seventieth. My husband Don McKennon was invited to represent

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Speaker 20: New Zealand there. John Key and Helen Clark have been

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Speaker 20: invited in individual roles and so that's unusual. But Tony

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Speaker 20: Blair was there ten years ago as a personally invited

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Speaker 20: guest and that the interactions going on behind the scenes

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Speaker 20: as well as on the big viewing platform by a

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Speaker 20: Tenama Square were really fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Like the weirdest person you got to meet.

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Speaker 20: Well, I wouldn't necessarily say weird, but most you know,

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Speaker 20: currently infamous person was Vladimir Putin Charming in real life

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Speaker 20: will just not really no, just quite cold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well you would expect that after you've killed

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Speaker 3: so many people as an agent, right probably? Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean the dynamics are really interesting. I was just

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Speaker 3: wondering if I put a target on my life, saying

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Speaker 3: that I don't think so, because I don't think you're

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Speaker 3: listening at the moment. There's a long list ahead of

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Speaker 3: you probably, but they're all narrow window somewhere I must go,

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Speaker 3: but I don't pull the blinds down, please.

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Speaker 20: But it is a very interesting dynamic because ten years

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Speaker 20: ago there were a lot of countries and they're still

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Speaker 20: are today who would not send any senior people like

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Speaker 20: their presidents, prime ministers, whatever.

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Speaker 3: For fear of being knocked off.

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Speaker 20: No, because they didn't want to be seen to be endorsing,

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Speaker 20: you know, that regime, or to end up accidentally standing

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Speaker 20: next to Putin or whatever. I mean, how much has

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Speaker 20: changed in the last ten years. You've had the President

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Speaker 20: of the United States welcoming on a red carpet Vladimir

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Speaker 20: Putin to American soil, the.

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Speaker 3: Things that Trump has done. Maybe the weird thing isn't

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Speaker 3: actually that they're their stue, but the fact that none

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Speaker 3: of our government ministers have been invited and they have.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, but the fact that you've got two very

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Speaker 2: high profile former prime ministers. We need to keep China

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Speaker 2: on side, there's no doubt about that. We saw what

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Speaker 2: happened with Australia two or three years ago when a

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Speaker 2: minor Australian official dissed the Chinese government. They said, like

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Speaker 2: a end of wine and lobsters from Australia to China.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a really good compromise. I mean,

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Speaker 2: as clean mentioned, we sent Sir Don mckinnanover a very

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Speaker 2: high profile and distinguished politician John Key and Helen Clark

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Speaker 2: being there.

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Speaker 8: It's a very good look for New Zealand.

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Speaker 20: I think the Chinese know they know all of this,

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Speaker 20: you know, the little dance that's going on, that they

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 20: have seen her enough people to preserve their manner and

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Speaker 20: for us to know that our relationship is going to

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Speaker 20: continue on a really good path.

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Speaker 3: Everyone. That's the game they're playing, all right, will take

1241
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Speaker 3: a break. Come back shortly quarter.

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Speaker 4: Two the huddle with New Zealand South.

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Speaker 1: He's International Realty, the global leader in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the huddle. Stuart Nashing cleared the

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Speaker 3: law stew What do you believe the story from the

1246
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Speaker 3: Polish CEO about snatching the hat from the kid?

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Speaker 8: I've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty bad. The thing is, he says,

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Speaker 2: I'll spur of the moment. I thought my kid's one

1250
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Speaker 2: of these autographs, but that just shows you're going to

1251
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Speaker 2: be careful in everything you do, right, because it's either

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Speaker 2: a camera or someone with a phone with a decent

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Speaker 2: camera on it that's taking advantage of.

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Speaker 8: This is the second time we've seen this.

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Speaker 2: We had the cold play, you know, kiss a shame

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Speaker 2: whatever they're calling it, And now you've got a camera

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Speaker 2: picking up a guy, a grown man, snatching a hat

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Speaker 2: off a little kid.

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Speaker 3: I mean what I know, it's unbelievable. I mean that

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Speaker 3: is the lesson. Isn't it clear that it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: what you how low profile you are, you can become

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Speaker 3: very high profile.

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Speaker 20: I think the lesson is just to be a grown

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Speaker 20: up and to behave properly, whether the camera's on you

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Speaker 20: or not. Just actually think what would my.

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Speaker 3: Mother say if your mom could see it, if your

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Speaker 3: mother could see you. Now do you believe him when

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Speaker 3: he says that he didn't realize the boy wanted the

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Speaker 3: cap and it was meant for him.

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Speaker 20: No, I don't, because you can quite clearly see the

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Speaker 20: little boy go oh.

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Speaker 3: Which case the world's not. But whoever the pr person is,

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Speaker 3: fire them. The world's not going to believe this story,

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Speaker 3: So hasn't he probably just made the situation a whole

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Speaker 3: lot worse by lying.

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Speaker 20: I don't know, but I just think, well, I can't decide.

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Speaker 20: We'll have to see, because you know, the kiss couple

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 20: went home for a couple of weeks and that took

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Speaker 20: a heavy toll on both of them.

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Speaker 3: I think what I.

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Speaker 20: Kind of do Sayma's favor is he has said sorry,

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Speaker 20: whether or not he's explained it poorly or falsely. I

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Speaker 20: think the pylon gets to be sort of disproportionate in

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Speaker 20: the end.

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Speaker 3: YEP, that's fair.

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Speaker 20: And I just think, you know, why is it that

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Speaker 20: we so enjoy someone being caught that we wanted to Yeah,

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Speaker 20: there will.

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Speaker 2: Be I don't know about that clear. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think everyone who watched it, you know, they are ansed

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Speaker 2: of it. But they saw this grown guy snatch a

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Speaker 2: cap off a kid, perfect souven air, and they just went,

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Speaker 2: what did they kid?

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Speaker 3: He's got to go and see his mother. She probably

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Speaker 3: give him a good slid out. How do you feel,

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Speaker 3: stew about merging the public service to the extent that

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Initiative recommends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes some really good points. Actually, there are

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of ministries that are being created in

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Speaker 2: an MMP environment to bring people in like, for example,

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Speaker 2: there was never a Minister of revenue before Michael cuhen

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Speaker 2: need to give something to Peter Done.

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Speaker 8: And now there's a Minister of revenue.

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Speaker 2: And you know when I was a Minister of Economic Development,

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Speaker 2: I had space and I had advanced manufacturing. Now there's

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Speaker 2: a Minister for space. There's a Minister of Advanced manufacturing.

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Speaker 2: There's a Minister for South End. I mean, God help

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Speaker 2: us is going to end.

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Speaker 20: I think Trevor to Clean was a Minister for Revenue,

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Speaker 20: ah many years ago.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, it's going back, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember maybe it went dormant and then

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Speaker 3: was revived.

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Speaker 8: Because I was a Minister of Revenue as well. But

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Speaker 8: well there we go.

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Speaker 3: But just there everywhere, just to align them.

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Speaker 2: But what is happening in MMP is you are getting

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Speaker 2: more and more Ministers of ABCD right through his head.

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Speaker 20: Yeah yeah, Well I guess if you're going to have

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Speaker 20: a three headed coalition, everyone's going to want a little

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Speaker 20: slice of the action.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting.

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Speaker 20: You know, maybe David Seymour could lead by example and

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Speaker 20: say okay, you know, let's just be the first cab

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Speaker 20: off the rank and I'll give up too, and let's

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Speaker 20: see if the others will match you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got that, Monty Pysi. Pythonis Minister of

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Speaker 2: Regulation to get rid of regulation.

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Speaker 8: I mean if I.

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Speaker 2: Have, have you heard anything more absurd than a ministry

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Speaker 2: of regulation to get rid of regulation?

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Speaker 8: Doesn't what?

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Speaker 3: It makes sense? It is I I know I can

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Speaker 3: see that the that that is it's I can see

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Speaker 3: the humor in that particular thing, right, yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: feel like you you you laugh at that quite a

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Speaker 3: lot as well, might as you fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: Well, next time there will be a two headed govern

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Speaker 2: and'll probably in New Zealand Fester National, So you know

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Speaker 2: you might have worry about this.

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Speaker 3: Will it be in New Zealand firster and National or

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Speaker 3: will it be New Zealand first and Labor without Chippy?

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Speaker 8: To possible scenarios and if you roll.

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Speaker 3: Chippy to make this happen, who do you replace Chippy with?

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Speaker 8: Barbara Edmonds?

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Speaker 3: Oh, come off, it's to you.

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Speaker 2: Very sensible woman. She was my Minister of advisor. She

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Speaker 2: knows how to get things done. Okay, maybe she's not

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Speaker 2: as polished as maybe Justinder is, but she's a hell

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Speaker 2: a lot better well, she's a better She's better in

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Speaker 2: the media than Chris Lackson.

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Speaker 3: Was she better than Karen?

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Speaker 19: Though?

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Speaker 3: Kiaren is doing a justinda where he's he's pretending he

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to but he actually does.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. Karen's got quite a laconic way about him.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if.

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Speaker 3: It just jeez, we've gone down a rabbit hole, but

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Speaker 3: there is a little rabbit hole going on here. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be in that little hole. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: staying out of it. Okay, you stand your own hole.

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Speaker 20: Well, in a hole, can I just say nobody leaps

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Speaker 20: out of the rabbit hole has been particularly attractive.

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Speaker 3: It's the problem, guys. It's wonderful to talk to the

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Speaker 3: pair of you. Thank you so much, Stu Nash and

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Speaker 3: clear to lay huddle this evening eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heither do you not remember interviewing the knee with scientists

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Speaker 3: back in June whose study revealed that the southern fieldland

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Speaker 3: forests are capturing more than three times New Zealand's total emissions,

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Speaker 3: which makes Powis basically a Ponzi scheme for all New Zealanders. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I do remember that. I do remember that, and I

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Speaker 3: think that as the facts. You know, sometimes facts that

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Speaker 3: are difficult, too difficult to kind of marry with your

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Speaker 3: worldview just get ignored. But these facts will emerge and immerging,

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Speaker 3: and then at some point I think that we will

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Speaker 3: be able to mount a fair argument to get out

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Speaker 3: of Paris. We're going to talk to the boss of

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Speaker 3: Amazon about that investments in the country. He's with us

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Speaker 3: after six o'clock. Now listen, remember this name, Thomas Sewell.

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Speaker 3: He is a neo Nazi living in Australia, born in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, causing trouble in Australia. Was at that anti

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Speaker 3: immigration March for Australia in Melbourne on Sunday. Also was

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Speaker 3: part of that group that attacked an Aboriginal sovereignty camp.

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Speaker 3: He was one of the ones punching the people there.

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Speaker 3: Today he disrupted the press conference of the Victorian premiere,

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Speaker 3: just into Alan, why protest?

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Speaker 6: Why do you want to ban us for protesting?

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Speaker 3: So he turned up. He started shouting like that her

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Speaker 3: goons as he calls them, got kinnor in his way,

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Speaker 3: kept him away from her. She and whoever walked away.

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Speaker 3: He kept on going, Should.

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Speaker 6: We have to write a speekon on touching the town

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Speaker 6: that your dudes attacked? Pique? You're a cow?

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Speaker 12: Are we going to take this country back from politicians

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Speaker 12: like you?

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Speaker 3: He's just been a rested. I think he's been arrested

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Speaker 3: for that. I don't know what he's been arrested for.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see. I didn't see whether he was arrested

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Speaker 3: for punching people in the face, or being speaking at

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Speaker 3: the rally, or disrupting the press conference. I spect not

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Speaker 3: disrupting the press conference, because that's not illegal. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's been arrested. So anyway, that makes us proud, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: We'll go yay, look at how look at how well

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Speaker 3: Kiwis are doing in Australia. Okay, what have you got?

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Speaker 3: Libby gone? There fly my pressings? Bag of money. Now,

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Speaker 3: of all the bands, there's one other band. But of

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Speaker 3: all the bands that we've played you today, this is

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Speaker 3: the band I would go see at the Homegrown. I

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Speaker 3: traveled for this one. There's another one coming up. We

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Speaker 3: will She'll like, no, no, this is a tease. You'll

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Speaker 3: have to wait to hear the other one anyway, Boss

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Speaker 3: of Amazon.

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Speaker 15: Next, an't you it's gone?

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Speaker 3: An't you it's gone?

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Speaker 17: Who could it be?

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Speaker 4: What's up? What's down? What with a major course? And

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Speaker 4: how will it affect the economy?

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Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy,

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Speaker 1: Ellen and MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

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Speaker 4: US talks be.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. Paul Bloxham,

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Speaker 3: Ahspecies Chief Economists, is very excited about our trade numbers.

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Speaker 3: He's going to talk us through that. We've got Jamie

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Speaker 3: McKay standing by with his reckons on New Zealand pulling

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Speaker 3: out of the Climate Agreement, and then of course we've

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Speaker 3: got Endo Brady out of the UK. It's coming up

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Speaker 3: eight past six Now. Amazon has today unveiled its data centers.

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Speaker 3: It's committed to invest more than seven and a half

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Speaker 3: billion dollars in New Zealand. Manuel Bonnett is Amazon's Web

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Speaker 3: Services New Zealand country manager and with us Manuel, Hello, Hello, Hather,

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Speaker 3: what are you spending the seven and a half billion

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Speaker 3: dollars on?

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Speaker 21: Well, we just announced the launch of our AWS Asia

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Speaker 21: Pacific New Zealand region and of course a big part

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Speaker 21: of the investment will be in this region. The region

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Speaker 21: is a luster of data centers, so as you would expect,

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Speaker 21: there is hardware, software, but also energy and people to

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Speaker 21: run these data centers.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Oh I see, So it's not seven and

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Speaker 3: a half billion for New Zealand. It's seven and a

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Speaker 3: half billion for Asia Pacific.

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Speaker 21: No, no, it's seven and a half billion for New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: The region is here. We just call the region the

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Speaker 21: Asia Pacific New Zealand region, but it's the local region

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Speaker 21: as local as it gets.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And so this is just for running the data

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Speaker 3: seent Is that how much it costs to run them?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 21: That's the investment. So it's hardware and software. We obviously

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Speaker 21: bring hardware, our own hardware to New Zealand, but we

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Speaker 21: also invest in software. And then we have operational costs

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Speaker 21: like the energy, the personnel, the people to run it.

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Speaker 21: So overall it's a big investment. And next to that,

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Speaker 21: next to the seven and a half billion that you mentioned,

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Speaker 21: we are also expecting to support a thousand new jobs

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Speaker 21: and we are really investing in building skills. So skills

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Speaker 21: are really important because next to technology, we really want

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Speaker 21: to make sure that we train and upskill the people

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Speaker 21: using it.

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Speaker 3: So I noticed that you guys had pledged seven and

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Speaker 3: a half billion dollars in twenty twenty one. Have you

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Speaker 3: already burned through that seven and a half and this

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Speaker 3: is another seven and a half?

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Speaker 21: No, we are actually confirming that number. Right, So we

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Speaker 21: have now announced the region to be live nice of

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Speaker 21: many days.

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Speaker 3: No, right, are you telling me this is the same

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Speaker 3: amount of money that you announced four years ago with

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Speaker 3: just and.

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Speaker 21: Our don Yeah, we are confirming the number, and we

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Speaker 21: are announcing that now the infrastructure investment that we made

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Speaker 21: is live as of today, and that there is more

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Speaker 21: to come in terms of the jobs that we have

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Speaker 21: confirmed and also the skills investment that I just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Okay, have you built any data centers?

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Speaker 21: So a region is a cluster of data centers, and

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Speaker 21: of course we have chosen the locations that we choose

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Speaker 21: to build out our availability zones. The region consists of

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Speaker 21: multiple availability zones. We have three of these availability zones here,

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Speaker 21: and of course that involves data centers.

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Speaker 3: Cool and how many of these have you actually built

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Speaker 3: as opposed to renting or leasing?

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Speaker 21: So we are choosing facilities based on the needs that

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Speaker 21: we have and we have thirty eight of these regions globally.

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Speaker 3: So exactly what you're being worried about this though, aren't

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Speaker 3: you Manuel? Because you haven't built any avue.

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Speaker 21: I'm telling you we'd show now the locations that are

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Speaker 21: the best looking.

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Speaker 3: What happened? Why didn't you guys build it? It wasn't

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Speaker 3: that part of the announcement with just in the back

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one that you were going to build some.

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Speaker 21: Well, we always take a long term view and as

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Speaker 21: part of that we look at all the options and

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Speaker 21: I'm super happy that we found the right locations for

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Speaker 21: the region to be live as of today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what happened to the West Aalkland one where you

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Speaker 3: flattened it? You got rid of the wetland. Are you

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Speaker 3: going to build anything there?

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean for now we are announcing that the

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Speaker 21: region is live, so the availability zones.

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Speaker 3: At the Manue. I just need to tell you, mate, Listen.

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Speaker 3: This audience that listens to this is really smart and

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Speaker 3: they can hear you not answering the questions. So you

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Speaker 3: can keep on with that strategy if you want to.

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Speaker 3: But I need to warn you. We know you're not

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Speaker 3: answering my question I'm going to try it again. What

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Speaker 3: are you doing with the West Aalkland site? Are you

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Speaker 3: going to build anything there?

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Speaker 21: I can't comment on the side. I'm basically I'm announcing

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Speaker 21: the launch of the region, and the side, as you

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Speaker 21: can tell, is not part of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thanks mate, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Go well.

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Speaker 3: Manuel Bonnette, New Zealand Country Manager, Amazon Web Services. Oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, guys, how bummed out are you about this announcement?

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: I thought when I heard luxon on with Hosking this morning,

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Speaker 3: I thought this was awesome. I was like, Yay, seven

1521
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: and a half billion dollars is the same money that

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: they announced with Jacinda just four years ago? And how

1523
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: many what is this announcement of an announcement? And also

1524
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: you should go check out the west Auckland site. Yeah,

1525
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: they've smashed the thing down. There's nothing going up there.

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: Sounds like sounds like they haven't built a single data center.

1527
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: They've basically gone and hired other people's data centers, which

1528
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: is not really helping is it's not helping the situations

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 3: those data centers would have been there before anyway. Whatever.

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: Twelve away from.

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Speaker 4: Six Heather Do for CLIs on the business.

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: With chief executives getting in trouble for things that they

1533
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 3: are doing. The CE, the chief executive of NESLE, has

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: been sacked for having an affair with the junior colleague.

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: So apparently what they're saying is undisclosed romantic relationship with

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Speaker 3: a direct subordinate. Bummer is he's only been in the

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01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: job a year, so he's out real quick. Twelve past

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Speaker 3: six it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Dupasicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my

1540
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1541
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Speaker 4: Whether it's Macro.

1542
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: Micro or just playing economics, it's all on the Business

1543
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and maz for Trusted Home

1544
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,680
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Speaker 3: Hither this is a re announcement there will be one

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: thousand long term jobs. No, yeah, I would agree with that. Listen,

1547
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: got some information on dogs in Auckland which actually is

1548
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 3: quite interesting. I'm going to get you into that shortly

1549
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: and also creating we have to talk about. It's quarter

1550
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: past six.

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Speaker 4: The Rural Report on Heather Duplicy, Allen, j.

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: Kai, host of the Countries with us Lo Jamie good

1553
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 3: Day here that do you think actors onto something here?

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 14: Here?

1555
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 19: I do?

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 11: Actually I didn't hear your chat with David Seymour just

1557
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 11: after five, but I did have him on my show today.

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 11: I look, I think it's interesting he's changed his tune now,

1559
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 11: but he's so saying Paris needs to change or New

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 11: Zealand le needs to leave. And this is very much

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Speaker 11: along the lines of what Winston and New Zealand First

1562
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 11: are saying. And it does change a wee bit from

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 11: where he sat two or three months ago. Anyhow, on

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 11: my show he said, look, I said, should we stay

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01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 11: in Paris? And he said staying in will eventually prove

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 11: more expensive than the penalty for leaving. So he's really

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01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 11: gone one step further with that, saying New Zealand should

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 11: remain engaged with our trading partners, but only on terms

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 11: that make sense for US. Net zero targets have been

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 11: set without regard to the real cost for firms, farms

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 11: and families. Now, one guy in the Act Party who

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 11: I do really rate, and I've had a lot to

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01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 11: do with them over the years when he was the

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01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 11: president of Federated Farmers, Andrew Hogger. Don't be fooled by

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01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 11: the look of him. There's a very smart mind and

1576
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 11: there and he probably knows more about climate change than

1577
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 11: any other politician I know to be perfectly honest, and

1578
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 11: he's saying ACT could look to countries like Uruguay that

1579
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 11: have achieved sensible, science based differentiation of gas types. Beef

1580
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 11: and LAMB have come out just with a press release

1581
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 11: hot off the press saying both consist they support ACT.

1582
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 11: They've consistently called for a split gas approach, you know,

1583
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 11: so we're on target. They're saying, any how to meet

1584
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 11: our twenty thirty targets, which aren't that great, only ten percent,

1585
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 11: So pricing of AG admissions is not justified. Look, I

1586
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 11: think the real game here is the pressure that New

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 11: Zealand First and Act together now will place on National

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 11: and coalition government.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that National can get And this is

1590
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: going to be the interesting thing is that National has

1591
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 3: to hold its line right. It has to say before

1592
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: the election that it's not going to do anything here,

1593
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's going to freak out a whole bunch of

1594
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 3: middle New Zealanders who can't be bothered taking the time

1595
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: to actually think about this, and they're just going to

1596
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: They're going to react to headlines. So it's really what

1597
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: happens after the election. That is the interesting thing. Can

1598
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: National kind of work this out between the coalition parties

1599
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,440
Speaker 3: if they if but if they adjust their position on methane.

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Speaker 11: No, no, that might be a good question for Crystal

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 11: Luxe and I he'd have a lot of egg on

1602
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 11: his face if he flip flopped or back flipped on

1603
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 11: this one. He's been quite adamant that he we have

1604
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 11: to stay in Paris's mate Miles Hurrell from Fonterra, another

1605
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 11: very smart guy, probably you could call him the smartest

1606
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 11: chief executive in New Zealand at the moment, saying we

1607
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 11: just cannot afford to leave the Paris Agreement. We're going

1608
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 11: to be hung out to dry in Europe. So look,

1609
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 11: let the games begin.

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 3: Heather, Yeah, very interesting, very quickly. What do you make

1611
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: of Open Country Dairy buying meat Auca.

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Speaker 11: Great move. Look, Open Country is the second biggest supplier

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 11: obviously to Fonterra. Fonterra's got about just on eighty percent

1614
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 11: of the milk. I think this gets Open Country up

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 11: to twelve thirteen or fourteen, remembering they bought Matara Valley

1616
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 11: milk just outside of Gore only a couple of weeks

1617
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 11: ago were announced it that deal took eight or nine

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 11: months to get sorted. This Maraka deal came together in

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 11: the space of two weeks and I think that the

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Speaker 11: telling comment because I think Maraka was under obviously financial pressure.

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01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 11: The chair Bruce Scott said there was significant challenges that

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Speaker 11: come with being a standalone regional processor operating at a

1623
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 11: global market. It's all about the economy of scale and

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 11: for Open Country, they've got plants two in Wykato, one

1625
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 11: in Wanganilli, Manaa Tu. This just plugs the middle of

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Speaker 11: the North Island nicely for them.

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Speaker 3: Nice hey, thank you very much. Jamie Jammy MacKaye, Hosts

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Speaker 3: of the Country. We've talked to you in a couple

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Speaker 3: of days. Okay, So what's going on with Auckland. We've

1630
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 3: spoken a lot about this. It's actually it's actually outside

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: of Auckland as well. It's the dogs, right, the dogs problem,

1632
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: which seems to be most pronounced. It would feel like

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 3: Northland has got the biggest problem with roaming dogs and

1634
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: attacking dogs and then maybe Auckland, but it seems to

1635
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: be wider than that. But Auckland Council is under real

1636
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 3: pressure on this, so they're really on the front foot

1637
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 3: and what they've announced today is that they have had

1638
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 3: to deal with about it's a record. They've had to

1639
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 3: impound ten thousand plus dogs, which is up hugely from

1640
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: the previous year. And they have so many dogs and

1641
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: so little space in the pounds, they've actually had to

1642
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: put a whole bunch of them down, so about sixty

1643
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: percent of them. So they've euthanized six thousand dogs in

1644
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 3: the space of a year, which is a huge number. Anyway,

1645
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: That good for them, and that is simply how it

1646
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 3: has to keep going. Unfortunately that we've got to be

1647
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: rough on this. But also what they've done, and I

1648
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 3: think this is an interesting thing. What they've done is

1649
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 3: they're called on central government to support councils with improved

1650
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: regulation of desexing under the Dog Control Act. What they

1651
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 3: basically want is to be able to win. They impound

1652
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 3: a dog, desex the dog, and then give it back

1653
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: to the owner. The implication there being the owner doesn't

1654
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: get us a that your dog ends up in the pound.

1655
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: When you get your dog back, your dog cannot have

1656
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: babies anymore. Tough titties, you have to deal with that,

1657
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 3: because what apparently has been going on is huge numbers

1658
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 3: of Puppies, huge numbers of puppies turning up six to

1659
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,480
Speaker 3: twenty one, everything.

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Speaker 1: From semes to the big corporates, The Business Hour with

1661
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News.

1662
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Speaker 3: Talks d be Hey, looks like this is fascinating what's

1663
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 3: going on in the UK. Looks like Keir Starmer is

1664
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: undermining his own chancellor. So he's done it because because

1665
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: remember his chancellor is Rachel Reeves, the one who's been

1666
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: the one cried, the one who he almost sacked but

1667
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 3: then then she cried, and then he couldn't sack her.

1668
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: He'd really like to sack her. So what he's done

1669
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 3: is he's done a little reset of his government and

1670
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: he's brought in three economic experts to basically oversee her

1671
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 3: while she puts together her budget for next month, which

1672
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: is make or break her. How embarrassing is there anyway?

1673
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: Inder Brady will talk us through it when he's with

1674
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: us at six twenty four. Here's your Showbuz News. If

1675
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: you've heard of a romance, you've heard of a romance.

1676
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: You may have heard of a chomance. Have you heard

1677
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: about a foemance? William Neeson and Pamela Anderson have been

1678
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: busted purposefully engineering romance rumors to promote their new could

1679
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 3: Gun reboot. Hollywood obviously isn't immune to this kind of stuff,

1680
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 3: right There are rumors like a PR stunt relationship. There

1681
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 3: are rumors that Tata is not really into what's his name,

1682
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 3: and then Travis and it's or just a PR stunt.

1683
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: And then you'll remember there was Kirsten Stewart and Robert

1684
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 3: Pattinson who pretended that they didn't hate each other when

1685
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: they were promoting Twilight, but Pam and Liam went way

1686
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 3: further than necessary. Listen to how cozy they got during

1687
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: the press tour.

1688
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 8: What's the silliest thing you've sent me?

1689
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 3: Do legal to talk about? All fake? None of it's real.

1690
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: According to TMZ, they literally didn't interact once after filming

1691
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 3: finished and before the press tour started. TMZ also said

1692
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: the couple have never even had a one on one

1693
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 3: dinner together, and everyone knows your relationship is not real

1694
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: if you aren't going out to tea with each other.

1695
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: How true is that? Right now? Creatine, I don't know

1696
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 3: if you remember, but a week while ago I talked

1697
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: about Creatine on the show about how the economists did

1698
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: a piece about how creatine you need to take it

1699
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: because it heals brain tissue and can actually help you

1700
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 3: recover from a concussion and may even prevent Alzheimer's and

1701
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Well there's a peace out today raving

1702
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 3: about it again, basically saying if you're not taking creatine,

1703
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: you need to be taking creatine, but especially if you're

1704
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: a woman. Women or people who are fatigued should take it.

1705
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean, lord, bet, how much is this us. We're

1706
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 3: fatigued women around menopause, in danger of losing muscle and

1707
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: putting on fat. They should be taking it. Older men

1708
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,440
Speaker 3: should take it if they want to optimize body composition

1709
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: whatever that means, have muscles. I suppose, even younger guys

1710
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: who want to build their muscle, although a lot of

1711
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: them have already heard of it and are already taking it.

1712
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: There was a study, and this is if you don't

1713
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: believe it, There was a study in twenty twenty four

1714
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: on sleep deprivation that showed that a single high dose

1715
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 3: of creatine monohydrate can boost cognitive function and processing speed,

1716
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: and it may also ease jet lag and other circadian disruptions.

1717
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: So do you know what I've done. I've written it

1718
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: on my shopping list I've gone by, But don't buy

1719
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 3: the gummies. Do not buy the gummies because I don't

1720
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 3: know if you caught this story, but if you buy

1721
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: the creatine gummies, there's a company that does the creatine

1722
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: gummies who have been busted for not having any creatine

1723
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 3: in them. And you don't want to be wasting your

1724
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 3: money on that kind of stuff, So don't do that

1725
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Speaker 3: at all. Just go and get the powders. Can I,

1726
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: just because I've got a minute here, can I just

1727
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: quickly give a shout out to Winston? Which is not

1728
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: something that I would do on the show on the

1729
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: regular because mostly, you know, we just get grumpy with

1730
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 3: each other. But I think actually Winston deserves a bit

1731
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: of praise for changing his mind on the foreign investors thing.

1732
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 3: Changing your mind in politics is actually a really hard

1733
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: thing to do, especially when you've gone hard on something,

1734
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 3: and he went very hard on banning the foreign buyers.

1735
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: To then create a loophole in that, or a carve

1736
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 3: out or an adjustment or whatever you want to call it,

1737
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: to do that is actually really hard to save face.

1738
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't believe me. Look at look

1739
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 3: at look at Gisinda and Grand and Chippy, and how

1740
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: they can't even to this day admit they got anything

1741
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 3: wrong in COVID, and they clearly did. Admitting you did

1742
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 3: something wrong changing your mind is very, very hard. So

1743
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: kudos to him for doing that. We'll all be grateful

1744
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 3: for it. Later on. What have we got? Coraala blue

1745
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: Eyed Maldi Enjoy.

1746
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1747
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather due for c Allen and

1748
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: Mas for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, news.

1749
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 4: Talks that'd be.

1750
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: This is the other band I would travel for. Who

1751
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: is it?

1752
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:37,879
Speaker 7: Stellar?

1753
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: Big sister of Big and Violent? How good was that?

1754
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: Back in the day? They were great when she dropped

1755
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: out of music and started making jewelry like Luis, She's

1756
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: got a jewelry, But cheez, she was good at music,

1757
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: wasn't she. Hey, listen really quickly. Bad news. If you're

1758
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: getting your groceries delivered by Woolies, the delivery save a subscription.

1759
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: This is the one where you pay the subscription and

1760
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: then you get your groceries delivered. You don't have to pay,

1761
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: you know, nine bucks a pop or whatever that price

1762
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 3: is going up. Used to be for six months will

1763
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: cost you less than one hundred and twenty. Now it's

1764
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 3: going to cost you more than one hundred and thirty.

1765
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: And the minimum that you have to buy has gone

1766
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 3: up as well, so you can't just spend eighty, you

1767
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: have to spend one hundred, all of which we go

1768
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 3: well hoe By's groceries for less than one hundred dollars nowadays. Anyway,

1769
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 3: twenty four away from seven. Now we've got some good

1770
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: news for the economy today. Stats New Zealand has come

1771
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: out with its latest trade data for New Zealand, and

1772
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 3: our exporters have been going gangbusters. Exports were up nine

1773
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: point nine percent in the year to June, imports up

1774
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 3: three point two percent. Paul blockshim as ahspc's chief economist,

1775
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: and with us A Paul, how good is that?

1776
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 12: It is good? It is a good story, and this is.

1777
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 22: One we've we've known about, but I think the numbers

1778
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 22: today were even stronger than was expected in terms of

1779
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 22: the rise in dairy prices and the boost that that's

1780
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 22: giving to incomes. Also not just the price rises, but

1781
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 22: also that the volumes were reasonably solid. So this is

1782
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 22: one of the two elements of why we have thought

1783
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 22: that the New Zealand economy is going to be in

1784
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 22: an upswing, one is the dairy price is a high

1785
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 22: and that's giving you a lift in the economy. And

1786
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 22: the second is that interest rates have.

1787
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 12: Come down a long way.

1788
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 22: It's not yet quite fed through to a recovery in

1789
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 22: consumption that's been really strong, but we think it's coming.

1790
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 22: And so though this is one element, and the other

1791
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 22: one is as interest rates have come down a long way.

1792
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 3: So can we say that the terms of trade have

1793
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,520
Speaker 3: beat expectations.

1794
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 22: Yes, I think that's fair and I certainly on today's

1795
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 22: print it was stronger than the market had expected. And

1796
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 22: so I think the terms of trade is a very

1797
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 22: positive story for New Zealand. You've had a consistent boost

1798
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 22: to incomes in the agricultural sector from the fact that

1799
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 22: dairy prices are and meat prices actually are high, and

1800
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 22: volumes have been fairly solid as well, and I think that's,

1801
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 22: as I say, driving that sector. Now, it's only one

1802
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 22: sector and it hasn't really flowed over to the rest

1803
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 22: of the economy as yet. But I think most of

1804
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 22: that it's a lag story. It takes time for it

1805
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 22: to flow through, but I think it will get there.

1806
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's three days ago we had more consumer

1807
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: confidence numbers out that were down to a ten month low.

1808
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: How long before.

1809
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: Consumers actually start to read this stuff, feel good about

1810
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: it and feel confident again.

1811
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 22: Well, we also had the week before retail figures that

1812
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 22: actually were a bit on the stronger side than the

1813
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 22: market had expected. So I mean, I'm always a little

1814
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 22: bit cautious about reading too much into sentiment indicators. You know,

1815
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 22: we're you're effectively asking consumers how they feel. I tend

1816
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 22: to put a bit more weight on actual spending indicators,

1817
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 22: and the spending indicators have actually they have been they

1818
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 22: have been okay, they have been solid, So I think

1819
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 22: that's part of it. I think the other part of

1820
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 22: it is that it's taking time. You know, this is

1821
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 22: the thing. It takes monetary policy, interest rates act with

1822
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 22: a lag on the economy. It takes time for it

1823
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 22: to start to feed through and support the economy. And

1824
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 22: I think it's perhaps the lags are a little bit

1825
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 22: longer this time around, but I think it's still likely

1826
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 22: to flow through to an upswing over time.

1827
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 3: What are you expecting from Australian GDP tomorrow.

1828
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 22: We think GDP growth will print in the quarter at

1829
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 22: a point six so point six quarter on quarter, that

1830
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 22: would be a one point seven percent growth rate over

1831
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 22: the year to pick up in pace from the past

1832
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 22: couple of quarters. So last year, the economy in twenty

1833
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 22: four grew by about one percent and now we're growing

1834
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 22: we think at something like one point seven. So that's

1835
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 22: an upswing, but only really a modest one. And I

1836
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 22: think the main thing we're pointing out is that really

1837
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 22: because productivity is so weak in Australia at the moment,

1838
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 22: and the supply side there of the economy is therefore

1839
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 22: so constrained. This is more this is the new normal,

1840
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 22: that we can't really grow a whole lot faster than

1841
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 22: this rate of growth unless we see a pickup in productivity.

1842
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 22: The economy is already operating at its full capacity. We're

1843
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 22: fully employed, and inflation is coming down, but it's not

1844
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 22: quite at the midpoint of the RBA's target band, and

1845
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 22: we're in a modest upswing. This is perhaps as good

1846
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 22: as it gets.

1847
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, hey, Paul, thank you very much. And it's

1848
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: interesting that everything that you've told us and predicted is

1849
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: bearing out, So there we go, we should listen to

1850
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 3: you more often. That's Paul Bloxham, ahsbc's chief economists Heather

1851
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Dupless Allen Heather. Oh, Heather, that neo Nazi is going

1852
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: to be sent back to New Zealand does a five

1853
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 3: oh one? Well, not sure, because I mean he's all like,

1854
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 3: we're going to take our country back, and he's got

1855
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 3: a thick Australian accent, so I'm kind of a I mean,

1856
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: you're not really Australian, and I like he's weeing a lot,

1857
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: like it's just describing himself as one of the Australians.

1858
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: So I just wonder if he's got a passport, in

1859
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 3: which case you can have him. You're welcome to him.

1860
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: But he has the German looked it up for us,

1861
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 3: and he has been arrested on account of the thing

1862
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 3: that he did at the Indigenous Sovereignty camp where there

1863
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: are photographs of him smashing people I think in the face.

1864
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to be defaming him. He has got

1865
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 3: a wonderful reputation the neo Nazi, but I think I

1866
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 3: think there was a photo of him smashing someone in

1867
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 3: the face. I think that'll land you in the jail.

1868
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: Won't it. Hither, I'm fifty two. I take ten grams

1869
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: of creatina day five in the morning and five after

1870
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 3: work out in the afternoon. Oh, after a workout. Sorry,

1871
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 3: I wondered that on this after a workout. You've got

1872
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: to take it before your workout, y'all. Just just a

1873
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 3: heads up anyway, I swear about by it. It's good

1874
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: for the muscles, but also my brain fog has gone

1875
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: in the afternoon. It works for me. Here there on

1876
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: your shopping list, underneath the creatina, add the laxatives, Thank

1877
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: you Warren. Here the ugly face is the best creatine

1878
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: to take. Hither the Creatine grummies gummies that got busted

1879
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 3: with the push gummies. I take the clean Fuel gummies

1880
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: and they have had rigorous testing and continue to do

1881
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 3: random testing of batches and I can highly recommend. As

1882
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: a woman, mother and jim athlete, you will not look back.

1883
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Benefits are amazing. Creatine monohydrate is what you're looking for.

1884
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 3: Thanks girls, thanks for helping me out. Listen, when you've

1885
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 3: got a baby under the age of eight months, I

1886
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: feel like you know you can take all of the

1887
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 3: powders are good for you, except for the illegal ones.

1888
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: Obviously you just want to stick to the legals, like

1889
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 3: this is what this is the difference here. My friends

1890
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: are like, oh, let's go out and take some drugs.

1891
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, mmm, no, I'm just gonna take my creatine

1892
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: and stay home. And that's a happy day for me.

1893
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 3: None of my friends doo drugs. So that was just

1894
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: an imaginary story anyway, So we've got it. Listen. Got

1895
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: to talk about what's going on in Wellington with the

1896
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 3: Oriental Parade band Rotunda. Have you seen this? This thing

1897
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: has been If you've been to Wellington, you know what

1898
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Is you come in along the bays

1899
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: there into the city, there's at the bottom of Hay

1900
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 3: Street there's that beautiful old band retunder that would have

1901
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: been built in the nineteen thirties or something. It's just

1902
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: gone just go to Rack and Ruin and they have

1903
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 3: for the longest time now been talking about doing it

1904
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: up and doing something jazzy with it. Well, finally we've

1905
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 3: got the kind of concept of it and I am

1906
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: here for it. When if I ever lose my mind

1907
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 3: and decide that I need to move back to Wellington,

1908
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 3: I am moving back for the band Retunder. So what

1909
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 3: they've got is they've got first of all, Ben Bailey

1910
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: on board winning. Ben is the guy behind the Auckland

1911
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 3: restaurant Ahi. He's also the guy behind the bath House

1912
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: in Queenstown which man alive the bath House what a

1913
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 3: good time. Go get yourself a shrimp cocktail there. The

1914
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: new hospitality offering at the band Rotunda is going to

1915
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 3: have five hundred and sixty square meters of casual eatery

1916
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 3: with balcony dining. Better put up some walls. I think

1917
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 3: it's Wellington. There will be a garage project, be a

1918
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 3: bar there will be, and there will be a two

1919
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty square meter rooftop bar and terrace. That's

1920
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 3: where they've got to put the walls up, because I mean,

1921
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: it's a nice idea to have a rooftop. But it

1922
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: is Wellington, which will have the harbor views and stuff.

1923
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 3: There'll be a street front food kiosk with public seating

1924
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 3: and public facilities including showers. Now, the food kiosk is

1925
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 3: an absolute banger of an idea because you and I

1926
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: used to live with a view of Oriental Parade when

1927
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 3: I was in Wellington, and I just sit out there

1928
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: and watch people walk out and the number of people

1929
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: promenading is out the gate, and so you would just

1930
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 3: have people. If you have good food on offer, people

1931
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: will just be constantly and they're buying food. But also

1932
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: the other thing that I can I just use this

1933
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 3: as an opportunity to tell you how much I love

1934
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 3: what Ben Bailey has done in west Auckland. So they've

1935
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Speaker 3: got this, they've got this set. If you've got kids

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Speaker 3: under the age of I want to say, like fourteen ish,

1937
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Speaker 3: thirteen ish, you want to go to Woe's studios. My

1938
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Speaker 3: boss Jason put me onto it because he's got the

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Speaker 3: young ones. He says, you got to take the boy

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Speaker 3: to Woe's studios. They've got the most epic playground and

1941
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: they do the most epic climy like spiderweby thing. And

1942
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 3: then they've got a little like Pirate never mind that stuff,

1943
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 3: Pirate ship and like, you know whatever, but it's the

1944
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Speaker 3: spiderweb climy thing. Awesome. You stick them in there. Then

1945
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Speaker 3: you go sit in Ben Bailey's restaurant with a view

1946
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Speaker 3: of the art. You can sit there watching the kids,

1947
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 3: and you can have delicious food. Why is there not

1948
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 3: of that? There's not enough of that in this country?

1949
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Where parents can sit down and have good food and

1950
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Speaker 3: then watch the children play. Happy Days, Ben Bailey, What

1951
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Speaker 3: a legend, sixteen away from seven.

1952
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 4: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's hither due for Sea Ellen with the Business Hour

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Speaker 1: and Mas for Trust at Home Insurance Solutions with the

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 4: That'd be Heather.

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Speaker 3: Me and my girlfriends have been saying this for years.

1958
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: We're somewhere we could go with the kids while the

1959
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 3: kids go nuts and we chill out with yummy eats.

1960
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Speaker 3: New Zealand or so behind on the stuff. Look, I

1961
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: don't know. I haven't had children in another country, so

1962
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're behind on this stuff. But

1963
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 3: we definitely don't have enough of this stuff. And I'll

1964
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 3: tell you what, if somebody's got a good idea, I

1965
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 3: reckon put it out for an IPO, We'll chuck some

1966
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: money at it, because I tell you what if you

1967
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 3: start rolling out some kid friendly some well let's say

1968
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Speaker 3: adult friendly prey playgrounds or kid friendly eateries, I reckon,

1969
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 3: I reckon there'd be dollars in that. So we love

1970
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 3: having the babies. Thirteen away from seven into Brady UK

1971
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Speaker 3: correspondence with us.

1972
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Speaker 12: Hello, Inda, Hey, Heather, good to speak to you again.

1973
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Speaker 3: So do you think the Prime Minister is undermining Rachel Reeves?

1974
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 12: Look, I think he had to do something because the

1975
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 12: agenda is not being set by him, and the feeling

1976
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 12: was that while he's being the international statesman and traveling

1977
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 12: around and seeing Trump and meeting Zelenski and doing all

1978
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 12: the kind of stuff that formerly big name British prime

1979
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 12: ministers used to do, the domestic agenda has been neglected.

1980
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Speaker 12: And I think that is a reflection in everything we've

1981
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Speaker 12: seen in the last twelve to twenty four hours. He's

1982
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 12: not undermining her. I think it's just he's fighting for

1983
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 12: his own corner because the agenda is being set by

1984
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Speaker 12: Nigel Faraj and Starmer absolutely has to stop that.

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Speaker 3: But how could I mean, she must feel undermined if

1986
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 3: you're going to have three economic advisors come in and

1987
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Speaker 3: what she do the budget. That hardly says a lot

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Speaker 3: about the confidence the Prime minister has in you, does it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1990
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Speaker 12: Look, we need growth, that's the first thing here. Every

1991
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 12: prime minister comes in saying we will grow the economy.

1992
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Speaker 12: I can do all the voices of the last ten

1993
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 12: prime ministers the same speech. It never seems to happen.

1994
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Speaker 12: And look, they thought they were onto a winner, having

1995
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Speaker 12: a politician who had worked in the Bank of England.

1996
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Speaker 12: It's not working out. The economy is flatlining. I think

1997
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Speaker 12: the real issue at the heart of this government is

1998
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 12: communication starmar. This has gone under the radar. Yesterday they

1999
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 12: actually booted out their head of Strategic comes, James Lyons,

2000
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 12: out of Downing Street. Yesterday he's out. Another guy's coming in.

2001
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Speaker 12: It's a communication issue at the heart of this government.

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Speaker 12: And look, I often get asked to advise politicians, governments

2003
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 12: and big business about communication, and it is I always

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01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 12: say to them when we start off, it's six words.

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Speaker 12: Know your audience, know your message. And I don't think

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01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 12: Starmer knows either at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. And speaking of reform, I mean reforms

2008
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 3: running rings around them on the migrants, aren't they.

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Speaker 12: Yes, And a new policy today to try and start

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Speaker 12: making some inrow on this. So as it stands, anyone

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Speaker 12: who's granted asylum in the UK can immediately put in

2012
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 12: for family members to come join them. And this has

2013
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Speaker 12: been happening over and over again. Forty one thousand people

2014
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Speaker 12: applied for asylum here in the last twelve months under

2015
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Speaker 12: Starmer's watch as Prime Minister, and as it stands right now,

2016
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Speaker 12: those people can all say I've got a partner, we've

2017
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 12: got children, my mother needs help, all come to the UK.

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Speaker 12: So the system is clearly being exploited. So what they're

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01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 12: doing now is a temporary ban on family members coming

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Speaker 12: to the UK while they look at making permanent legislation.

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Speaker 12: They're also going to look at the whole issue of

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Speaker 12: student visas because a lot of people are coming here

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Speaker 12: in a student visa from countries like Nigeria and Pakistan

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Speaker 12: with no intention of going back.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, now, do you think you're going to see the

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Speaker 3: Northern Lights? Finally?

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Speaker 12: I do hope so, because they've spent an awful lot

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Speaker 12: of money and an awful lot of time traveling to

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Speaker 12: the Arctic over the last decade and a half to

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Speaker 12: try and see them. I've been to northern Sweden twice.

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Speaker 12: I've been to Norway Northern Norway twice, I've been to Iceland.

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Speaker 12: On every single occasion i've gone to see the Northern Lights,

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Speaker 12: I've had someone say, oh, it's a bad week to

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Speaker 12: see the lights and it hasn't happened. So would you

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Speaker 12: believe it? They popped up in England last night. I

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01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 12: kid you not see North Yorkshire. No, we live in

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01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 12: Oxfordshire and I was inside watching soccer on TV. So tonight,

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Speaker 12: tonight I'm gonna I'm gonna absolutely make sure I go

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01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 12: for a little jog or a walk or something as

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01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 12: soon as the sun goes down. Apparently there has been

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01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 12: a geomagnetic storm that will affect our weather system tonight

2042
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 12: and the Northern Lights could be visible in the south

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Speaker 12: of England.

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Speaker 8: So watch this.

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01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 3: Space and you know, look through your phone. Put your

2046
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: phone up and look through it. It makes it. It

2047
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: makes a bit like it's not it's not. It's not.

2048
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: It's not like a modern thing, like a modern joke.

2049
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 3: It actually you can see it bit of that way.

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01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 12: Oh well, look I'm excited, boss. It just goes to

2051
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 12: show you that, you know, some things are meant to be.

2052
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 12: I'm told they look stunning, they look amazing. Let's see.

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01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 3: I'll have to see it to believe it. Thank you,

2054
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 3: and to look after yourself and best the like of that.

2055
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 3: That's into Brady, our UK correspondent. Hey, by the way,

2056
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 3: get a load of this. We're gonna have to. This

2057
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 3: is just a quick thing about how we're gonna have

2058
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of money on infrastructure because of

2059
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 3: the climate change, because our stuff is getting old. At

2060
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 3: the moment. On the state highway network, we have thirty

2061
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 3: nine bridges that are already one hundred years old. In

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01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 3: five years that thirty nine is going to become two

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01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty bridges that are already one hundred years old.

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01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 3: And by twenty thirty nine, So that's what fourteen years

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01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 3: from no fivendred from now five hundred bridges over one

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01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 3: hundred years old. It's going to cost us a fair

2067
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: chunk of change. Eight away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven, it's the Heather Too per se Alan Drive Full

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Speaker 3: Heather, how old is the tay Rua Bridge? How old

2071
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: is the Tyrua Bridge? This is the bridge of the Coramandel.

2072
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know if you know this, if

2073
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 3: you've ever gone to the Coramandel, but there it is.

2074
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 3: It's basically the thing that ruins everybody's holiday is the

2075
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 3: Tyrua Bridge because in order to get up the east

2076
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 3: coast of that peninsula, you have to go through Tyroe.

2077
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 3: You come down the mountain pass power Enui's turn off,

2078
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 3: go through Tyru and then you go all the way

2079
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 3: up and then you you're into it, you know, and

2080
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 3: you're going up to fitsy, younger and middle atone you

2081
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,919
Speaker 3: know whatever. But that bridge is a one way bridge,

2082
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: and so it's a pinch point and you could be

2083
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 3: stuck there for hours. How old is it? However old

2084
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 3: it is, it's definitely old enough to replace, don't you think,

2085
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 3: because wow, by the way, just because you know, you

2086
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 3: got to get their traffic flowing, don't you for the

2087
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 3: holiday makers. I don't know if you're aware of this,

2088
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 3: but there was a big scandal at Venice at the

2089
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 3: film festival. Julia Robertson Amanda sea Free turn up in

2090
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: exactly the same outfit. However, it is not as bad

2091
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 3: as it sounds, because they actually did it deliberately. They

2092
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 3: first first time Julia wore it, it was a blue wall blazer,

2093
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 3: great leg denim, big gold buckle, bolt striped shirt underneath

2094
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 3: it woven shoes in a leather bag. And then a

2095
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 3: few days later Amanda turned up in exactly the same outfit,

2096
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 3: and then she posted online that in fact she had

2097
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 3: borrowed Julia's clothes and she'd done it to make a

2098
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 3: point about sustainability, about not throwing your clothes away and

2099
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 3: just wearing them once but recycling them. Fortunately, we have

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01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 3: confirmed that they wore them. She wore them like enough

2101
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 3: days away from when Julia wore it. To get it

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01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 3: to the dry cleaners and get dry clean the armpits.

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01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 23: And hopefully not just the Armpits's could point cool it

2104
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 23: down by Coterie to play us out tonight? Well, last

2105
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,879
Speaker 23: song from the Homegrown lineup a reminder Homegrown is happening

2106
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 23: in Hamilton at Claudland's Oval on March fourteenth next year.

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01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 23: And there were tons of other stuff we could. We

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01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 23: didn't have time for blind Spot, Devil Skin. Do we

2109
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 23: play Corrella? I think we did State of Mind Devil Skin?

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01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 3: Are think the ones that were a bit like Emo?

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01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 23: They're more metal than Emo? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

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01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 23: so yeah, and I imagine blind Spot'll be doing a

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 23: bit more than metal stuff, so they're the rocky Do

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Speaker 23: we finally six sixty today as well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We did?

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Speaker 23: Okay, cool? Yeah your favorite and yeah, y sure there

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01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 23: as well? Yep, all star lineup.

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Speaker 3: We don't hate sex? Sexty do I hate sex?

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Speaker 4: Sexty.

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Speaker 23: You and me have went through a thing where we

2123
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 23: were both like, yes, we both hate six sexty. I

2124
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 23: still do, but yeah, just.

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01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 3: Just a bit kind of like my great that like

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01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 3: good that it's a comp I have a complicated relationship

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01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 3: with sex sexty, like I do with each hearing, like

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Speaker 3: I respeat what you're doing, but I also am so

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Speaker 3: black by it. Anyway, See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 24: Down down down, down down down, pull it down down down.

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