1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, a name 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Right, we've got our own beef tonight. Joining the huddle 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: is Tim Wilson from The Maximum Institute and Allie Jones 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: from Red PR Good evening to you. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: Both, Hi, medium, rare or just see it I'm wanting 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: to see. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, no medium, Well done to me. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Ellie thoughts on Brooklyn Beckham. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: Although it's a big yawn. Really, I hate this kind 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: of stuff. I've always hated it, but I just heard 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: what your guests said then, And look, that dance thing 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: is really odd. I mean, you know that the first 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 4: dance is with the person that you are marrying or 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: have married, So why on earth the mother would get up? 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: That is very odd. But he sounds immature and posh. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: Sounds like she's been a bit tone deaf to some 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: of the stuff too. But look, you wouldn't have brand Beckham, 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: or the Kardashians or any of these without this kind 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: of stuff going on. So it's really just part of 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 4: the quarter. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 5: Tim, Yeah, I mean it's I think you observed that 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: he seems to be dipping into the Prince Harry Rulbalker 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 5: family interaction, which are my understanding is that that one 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: doesn't end well? I think, yeah, it's it's sad because 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: actually the most the most wonderful relationship you know that 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 5: we that we know of is harmonious family relationships. But 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 5: they take what is it humility because we don't know 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: it all. They take forgiveness because often those we love 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: most stuff up, and they take privacy. And I know 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 5: it's at the end of the guy's post, it's like, 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: oh we want are peace, privacy and happiness? Well you 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: haven't gone about it. And can I just say something positive? 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 5: My parents today sixty four years of marriage. They're celebrating 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: it and I wouldn't have the life I have without them. 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 5: So here's here's to the family. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: That's nice. 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Go into a full page Instagram post about that. 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: How awesome they are. Yeah, you know what, I don't know. 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: I don't know how much traction it'll get on. I 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: think I think beef seals exactly. 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: Are only one person in your family? Tim, haven't you 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: got that drunk uncle or someone you're not like Walton's Or. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 5: Oh I've got I've got three wonderful sisters. And also 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: I'm adopted siem in touch with my birth families as well. 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: So it's a it's a it's a it's a great cloak. 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: Oh good. 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: truly global. 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: Brand thirteen to six. Tim Wilson and I Jones on 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: the Huddle tonight. Tim, I'll start with you on Trump 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: and Greenland. So obviously you were US correspondent for many years. 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: You know the place in and out. Is this a 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: negotiation tactic? Do you think from Trump to get a 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: mineral deal or do you think he's serious about actually, 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe even taking military action. 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 5: Look, I think I think it's sort of geopolitical version 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 5: of the out of the deal extended. And I don't 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: know if it's about minerals. I do think it's about geopolitics. 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: We are certainly in the post rules based order here. 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: This is the age of empire. I mean just just 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: recently Canada signed a trade deal with China and the 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: PM said, we have to take the world as we 64 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 5: find it, not as we want it to be. And 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: international law was actually we think about it, the rules 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 5: system was based on American power. Now. Having said that, 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 5: I think, you know this deal Trump is behaving like 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: a three year old on a sugar binge, So you know, 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: why would you trust America? And the other thing about 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: this is like, you know, he's complaining, Oh, I'm doing 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: this because you didn't get the Nobel Prize. You didn't 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: give me the Nobel price. Isn't that nice lady from Venezuela? 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 5: Give them the prize side, I don't know what the 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: problem is. 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: You got it eventually, didn't He Well, it's a bit 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: like that. 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: I keep saying, you know, America, you know, if you 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: had to pack between Russia and China, America, I mean, 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: you would go with America every time, because at least 80 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: it's a democracy. But I've noticed now I keep saying 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: it's a democracy for now. 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that that comparison is becoming less 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: and less plausible to be frank, I mean, I agree 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: with Tim. I think no one should try and rationalize 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: anything Donald Trump says. He is a meglo maniac, petulant, 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: seventy nine year old child. And I look, I do 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: tend to agree that the Denmark debacle is all about power. 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: I do think it's more geopolitical potentially than the minerals 89 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: that seems to have come from one chap who's actually 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: in the AI business that depends on these minerals. So 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: that's interesting. I've been watching a Netflix series called Hitler 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: in the Nazis Evil on Trial. It is chilling, and 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: the similarities to the way, you know, Hitler came to 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: power and what Trump is doing surrounding himself with people 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 4: is just frightening. And I just hope that the world 96 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: just keeps standing up to Trump as much as possible. 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't think that he is a rational human being. 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: I don't think that he's something we should aspire to be. 99 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: But comparing him to. 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: Hitler, oh absolutely, And what he's doing, you know, when 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: you no, no, no, when you look at actually what 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: what Trump has done is so far as creating civil 103 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: and rest unrest internally around Minneapolis, it's exactly what Hitler 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: did being the person that's going to save the disenfranchised 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: Germans after World War One. That's what Trump is doing 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: to the disenfranchised Americans. Seriously watching it, I'm going, oh 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: my god, they could be talking about Donald Trump. 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 5: Weller came in on a populist agenda, there's no question. 109 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: But I have yet to see Trump rounding up people 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 5: based on the fact that they're Jews and confining them to. 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: Well, he's certainly running them up based on his alleged 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 4: or their alleged immigration status. That he's certainly sidelining people, 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: which is exactly what Hitler did. 114 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's not doing it on the basis of race. 115 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: Is. 116 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: He's doing it on the basis is their immigration immigration status, 117 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: which is alleged immigration. 118 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know, but the principle is still exactly 120 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: the same. 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: And I don't think it is elliot. I don't think 122 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: it is. I think it's I think it's very different. 123 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: One was about, you know, sending Jews to the gaspreation 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: concentration camps. This is about rounding up migrants have come 125 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: into the country illegally. 126 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: That's not what happened initially, you watched the documentary. What 127 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: Hitler did was pick up people, pull up people, round 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: up people who were against him. It wasn't Jews. Initially, 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: those desk camps didn't come up till right till the 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: end of the war. Initially it was political prisoners and 131 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: they put them into concentration camps. It's exactly the same 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: thing Trump's doing. 133 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 5: We might have to agree to disagree. 134 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I think we might. I think we might, and I 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: think we might leave it there too. Thanks both so 136 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: much for being with me tonight. Sim Wilson and Ellie 137 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: Jones on the Huddle. 138 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 140 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.