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Speaker 1: With me right now? Is Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country. Hey, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: could I Heather?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? He's got the orange wall paint on to

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Speaker 2: cover the bags under his eye. You can say what

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Speaker 2: you want about Trump, but at seventy eight years of age,

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Speaker 2: you have to admire his energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably napping on the plane, don't you think

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Speaker 1: on the way over like he's he'll be doing like

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Speaker 1: newborn cat naps, won't he.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you know he hasn't had a

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Speaker 2: day off. He has. He had a game of golf

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Speaker 2: for about six weeks apparently. So no, No, he's a

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Speaker 2: bit like Winston ageless from that point of view. I

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Speaker 2: admire his energy, if not all his policies, and some

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Speaker 2: of his policies Heather may come home to roost for

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Speaker 2: us here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Well, particularly when you think I was talking to somebody

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Speaker 1: in the wine business today and tariffs if they are

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Speaker 1: like that's really going to hit them quite hard in

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Speaker 1: the States, which is a big market for US.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's our biggest market. I didn't realize that our

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Speaker 2: biggest export market. Excuse me, I'm a bit like Donald

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Speaker 2: my South losing my boys eight hundred million dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of export read you last year to the US. Now,

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Speaker 2: our wines occupy kind of a mid range price point

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Speaker 2: in the US market, and some of the commentary around

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Speaker 2: this is that retailers would be very reluctant to increase

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Speaker 2: the price on a bottle fifteen to twenty dollars US,

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Speaker 2: and that therefore the tariff could fall back on the

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Speaker 2: wine producers. So not so good for the wine producers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not so good for the lamb producers either when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the red meat, because there are price

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Speaker 2: points at which lamb will just burn off the demand.

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Speaker 2: The interesting one either is beef. They literally cannot get

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Speaker 2: enough of our beef. And it's all for manufacturing. It's

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Speaker 2: all for hamburgers. McDonald's needs. McDonald's need everything we can produce,

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Speaker 2: and a bit more so. Once again, some of the

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Speaker 2: commentaries saying, whereas who will bear the cost of these tariffs,

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Speaker 2: and the first instance, that would be paid for by

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Speaker 2: US importers, But the extent to which those costs could

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Speaker 2: be passed on to wholesale, resale or retail customers depends

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Speaker 2: on the bargaining power, and beef apparently has a lot

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Speaker 2: more bargaining power, so the tariff is unlikely to fall

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Speaker 2: on the New Zealand exporters may not be the same

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Speaker 2: with our lamb and our wine.

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Speaker 1: That's a very interesting, a little insight that you've got there, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated. That's Jamie mckaye, host of the Country. For

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