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Speaker 1: This show on Being Podcast. Hey that's us, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Hello Fresh the Experts and Tastes that kiwis love.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be here. How are you doing? How are

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Speaker 2: you doing?

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Speaker 1: Because it was just a few months ago you had

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Speaker 1: a pretty major sort of operation. But I hear you

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Speaker 1: hitting the gym. You're fighting foot again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those things where I was really

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Speaker 4: really healthy, really really fit. I caught a bug, I

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Speaker 4: got a staff infection and it got in my blood

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Speaker 4: and I went to my I went to my back,

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Speaker 4: I had to have surgery in my back up and

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Speaker 4: went to my heart, which was really serious, so major surgery.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was seven out of surgery in my heart and

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Speaker 4: and and literally there was a you know, I was

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Speaker 4: close to death, which was pretty frightenly. I got over

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Speaker 4: it and I'm just, you know, I'm just don't have it,

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Speaker 4: and I sure doing. I'm back on tour and I'm

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Speaker 4: doing all that and I'm healthy and tear the world

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Speaker 4: apart again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well this is your second major operation, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I've had lots of them. Yeah, I'm I think when

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Speaker 2: you live as hard as I do, things I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna give away you're like, damn it, I had a

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Speaker 3: good forty or fifty years.

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Speaker 2: I packed it in like a classic car.

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Speaker 1: You're read better, that's what that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of going electric.

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Speaker 4: Is it true?

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Speaker 1: Is it true that Cultures or was it fifty years?

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Speaker 1: So when these concerts are happening early next year, is

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Speaker 1: it fifty years since Cultures Well first came to New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: It was Actually it's actually fifty It must be close

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Speaker 4: to it. We were seventy seventy five I think when

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Speaker 4: we first came to New Zealand. Yeah, it's very close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way to make us all.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, but we were only two at the time.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember much in those days?

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Speaker 4: How much?

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Speaker 1: How many memories do you have?

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Speaker 2: I remember lots.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think one of the big shows that

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Speaker 4: I remember was we did I think called Narawahia, which

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Speaker 4: was a sweetwater festival down there.

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Speaker 3: There was a there was a shambles, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: There was was full on. It was I remember, like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it.

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Speaker 4: Was hundreds of you know, of Viking's there and we

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Speaker 4: went on first and we were playing and there was

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Speaker 4: a bit few fights and all that, and you know,

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Speaker 4: and I jumped into them.

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Speaker 2: Did you get in the fight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I got into a couple while the guitar solos were going,

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Speaker 2: you know, and people they took to me and more

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Speaker 2: ways than one.

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Speaker 4: But no, they just thought it was funny and they

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Speaker 4: laughed at me and threw me back up on stage.

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Speaker 4: But for some reason that everybody just we really clicked

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Speaker 4: and we did a board here and show that was

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Speaker 4: really full on and and we sort of were adopted

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Speaker 4: by New Zealand on that day, felt really connected.

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Speaker 2: To New Zealand. We treated well, do.

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Speaker 1: You know you what my first ever concert I went

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Speaker 1: to with my mum. We were seeing family in christ Church.

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Speaker 1: We went to Lancaster Park and it was you and Tina Turner.

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Speaker 2: I remember that I got up sang Withina. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was around the Rugby League era, you know what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was such a How amazing was that? I mean?

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Speaker 4: I still to this day, I can't believe that the

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Speaker 4: n r L, the Rugby League paid me so much

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Speaker 4: money to get up and sing with Tina.

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Speaker 2: I would have paid them, Yeah, I really would have.

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Speaker 2: I really would have. It was just she was such

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Speaker 2: a great singer and such a great woman.

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Speaker 1: I do remember there are a lot of funny smell in

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Speaker 1: the air. I kept asking my mom what their smell was,

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Speaker 1: and she was quite vague about the smell, the cigarette

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Speaker 2: And that's a funny cigarette.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A hot looking saxophone player as well too for

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that was right, that the muscles. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was great, it was great us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now did you jump out of the Tina Tuna constant

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Speaker 3: and have a before with anyone?

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Speaker 2: Barns or you keep no? Oh no, no, no, Tina

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Speaker 2: did that her job.

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Speaker 3: She's much tougher than me, Jimmy Barnes with US Culture

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Speaker 3: is coming back next year. And your career has spanned

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Speaker 3: over many different variations of the music industry. Barns, you

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Speaker 3: were just talking about you with Tina Turner. Felt like

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Speaker 3: there was a ten million dollar music video. Winfield the

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Speaker 3: cigarettes and sponsored the music video the Windfield helicopters your

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Speaker 3: head at all. The new era of music really interesting.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was.

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Speaker 4: Sort of you know, and when I first started, you know,

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Speaker 4: we used to you know, we'd try to make records

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Speaker 4: and we go on tour to sell records. Nowadays it's

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Speaker 4: really sort of the opposite. You make records just so

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Speaker 4: you can go on tour. You know, you still make

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Speaker 4: all your money touring. And I thought that was you know,

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Speaker 4: the eighties, and in the nineties it's got a bit

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Speaker 4: sort of you know, I remember being in America and

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Speaker 4: they just wanted to they wanted to, you know, you'd

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Speaker 4: make a record, and you'd make film clips, and you

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Speaker 4: go to America and they say, let's just redo it all,

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Speaker 4: you know, spend another half a million.

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Speaker 2: You know, and it was just stupid.

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Speaker 4: So I think it was a very wasteful and it

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Speaker 4: was sort of you know that that whole eighties thing

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Speaker 4: where they just threw money up against the war. People

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Speaker 4: lost sort of sense of reality. And the only thing

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Speaker 4: that really kept bands like myself and that grounded at

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Speaker 4: the time was that we built our careers playing live

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Speaker 4: and no matter what, they no matter what you if

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Speaker 4: lights in the world on it and make it look

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Speaker 4: as flash as possible. If you played like ship, they

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Speaker 4: were going to kill you. So that so we always

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Speaker 4: were pretty grounded by the fact that our audience one

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Speaker 4: of the best rooms and we either delivered or we died.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it feels like you really have. You've you've

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Speaker 3: stayed pretty grounded through your entire career when you could

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Speaker 3: have got lost and swepped up in the in the celebrity.

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Speaker 2: Hall, there was there was moments, but you know, I tried.

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Speaker 4: You know, I like people, you know, and uh, for

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Speaker 4: a little while, I used to hire a security guard

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Speaker 4: to to protect the audience.

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Speaker 2: That I've always been pretty accessible.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, AI is a big conversation and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to get you delve too deep on that, but I

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Speaker 1: did put into AI one question for Jimmy Barnes. Make

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Speaker 1: it funny, make it interesting. So, oh, this is what

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Speaker 1: AI came out with. Your voice. Your voice is legendary

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Speaker 1: and unmistakable. Have you ever tried to order something at

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Speaker 1: a fast food restaurant to drive through and someone recognized you?

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Speaker 2: That's their question, that's the question.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, not not really no, but but quite

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Speaker 4: often on the phone, I'll be ringing, like you know,

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Speaker 4: you know when you used to I was one three,

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Speaker 4: you know, to get information to find a number.

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Speaker 2: It would be a science for a.

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Speaker 4: While ago you Jimmy, you know, I'm on a bloody telephone,

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Speaker 4: you know that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no this and it's a bit of a curse.

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Speaker 4: You know, my voice it stands out like the proverbials,

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Speaker 4: and that sort of can get me in a lot

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Speaker 4: of trouble. You know, you really can't sort of when

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Speaker 4: you're trying to green cognita is.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll be walking through the air and trying

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Speaker 2: to be sneaky, gets through with that, getting sort of held.

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Speaker 4: Up and somebody will say, oh, you know, oh bumping yourself,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, and then oh, shoo, jimmy. You know, people

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Speaker 4: recognize the voice more than they do me, which was

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Speaker 4: it's just understandable.

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Speaker 3: I guess when you mentioned that for that long, you're

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Speaker 3: you're an absolute icon here in Australia. When was the

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Speaker 3: last time you were able to walk out the house

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Speaker 3: and no one recognize you?

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Speaker 1: I got a Thailand A lot I don't know you

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Speaker 1: in toil End.

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Speaker 2: My wife's high.

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Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons I love Thailand because

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Speaker 4: really the ties are just sort of treat everybody the same.

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Speaker 2: So I just go there and you walk around there.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: But you know, listen, like I said, I've sort of

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Speaker 4: built a career where you know, I don't make I

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Speaker 4: don't put walls up around myself. I don't shut myself

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Speaker 4: off from people. And you know, people might get a

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Speaker 4: bit excited and up to you and stuff. But then

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Speaker 4: you know, if you say high and you know, all

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Speaker 4: they wants a photo or something, that's pretty easy to do,

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, and then you know they leave you alone,

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Speaker 4: you know, and if they don't, you can slap them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the song working class Man, that wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to stick to that, right.

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Speaker 4: But it's true though, I mean, if you it's one

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Speaker 4: of those things where if you if you get too

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Speaker 4: many security guards, if you get too sort of too

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Speaker 4: security conscious, then people wonder what they're missing, you know,

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Speaker 4: Whereas if I'm just walking around and they realize there's

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Speaker 4: not that much going on. It's just I'm just having

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Speaker 4: to know God shop with or something, you know.

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Speaker 1: So yah, Yeah, we can't wait to have you back

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. It's happening next year twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: the Summer Concert Tour. It's going to be in Queenstown,

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Speaker 1: Corimandel and Topor. You can get all the details at

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Speaker 1: Greenstone Entertainment Dot Cod Nzi cultures or ice House, but

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Speaker 1: Wrunger everclear, It's going to be incredible, So great to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you always love doing it.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy, come and celebrate our fiftieth birthday. All the best,