1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unparalleled reach 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: and results on the Huddle. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: This evening, the director at Mike Munroe Communications, former staffer 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and Cinda ardn And Hall and Clark's officers Mike Munroe 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: and Tim Wilson of the Maxim Institute, Kelder Kordawa. Let's 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: start off with the funding for doctors. I mean, I 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: just I find it remarkable. I get it. We're not 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: going to have those doctors for seven to ten years 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: until they've finished their training. But given that cost would 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: be about half a million dollars in the context of 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: government expenditure, given the problems we're facing with the health 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: workforce at the moment, aren't you surprised that that isn't 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: a higher priority? Tim? 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am, I am. It is a broken promise. 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: It's clear that it's a broken promise, but in the 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: context of things, it seems like a small promise. It's 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: a bit like going to macas and you're saying everyone 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: gets a big mac. Well, actually no, you're going to 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: get a mcfeast. It's probably not the end of the 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: world on the on the scale of things, but it 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: does fill out a narrative that you're alluding to a check, 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: which is the series of broken promises. And I sort 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: of think about the COVID test that you also talked 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: with doctor Vesti about. It's like, you know, that's nine 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: million bucks. You think you could take some free COVID 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: tests And I don't know, directed towards the doctors. 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is a broken 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: promise and that's pretty clear. But maybe have more concern 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: is that we're not actually just funding another twenty five 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: people to become doctors. Because I get it, maybe some 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: of the short term shortfalls will be made up by 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: improving the workforce with doctors from overseas and that kind 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: of thing might, but surely we want to actually be 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: building our capacity as much as we can for the future. 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Jack. The shortfall numbers are alarming. The 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: last lot I saw was talking about one seven hundred 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: short fall that was in March this year. That's expected 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: to double or projected to double within six or eight years. Look, 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: fifty doctors is not a lot, but we do need 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: every I think we can get right now. And I 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: can't believe that they the University's concerned about the space 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: to accommodate if the trainees. So I can't believe that 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: they wouldn't put the money into this. But the other 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: problems on the lines of me too, is just a 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: mess of made of the arithmetic around arithmetic around the budget. 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: You know. I heard really say before that they just 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: don't have enough dis bunch cycle well for cancer drugs either. 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: And it comes back to the reckless promises they made 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: in opposition about what they do in government. And now 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: you know, chickens are coming home to roost latest example. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: So, I mean, clearly there are some fiscal pretty significant 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: fiscal pressures. But still for any government of the day, 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: it's all the question of choices, right, does the government 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: really need to be providing free COVID test Mike. 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that can be justified. I mean, 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: COVID has still a major issue for the country, and 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: we've just experienced our highest peaks since twenty twenty two 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: six pounds. Look, I've just been reported every week. You know, 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: it is still serious and I think we're going to. 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: Keep you should wheel that one, Okay, Tim, can I can? 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: I just can? I just sided a bit jumpy there. Look, 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: do you guys know how much a five pack of 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: COVID test is at the chemist. 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: Warehouse, like eleven bucks, something like. 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: That, seventeen bucks. So you're looking at seventeen bucks. 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty expensive, is it not? 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, is it really? 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: But I just feel like there are. 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people who go, you know what, I 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: don't want to spend that seventeen bucks on COVID tests. 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I get anything out of. 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: That really, And that's because and that's because I disagree 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: with what doctor Etti said, which is that there's the 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: same level, there's a similar level of urgency about this. 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: I think there's a lower level of urgency and that's 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: reflected in a whole lot of measures in terms of 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: you know, people are actually I would say many people 78 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: are here deliberately not testing because it's not seen and 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: that it's not seen as something that is as dangerous 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: as it used to be for a variety of reasons, 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: vaccination rates, it's gone through the population. The other thing is, 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: I would I would say that perhaps perhaps the urgency 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: was overcooked in some of the COVID response that we got, 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: and let's back to the previous government. Let's not go there. 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: Well, we'll have plenty of time to discuss that, no 86 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: doubt when well, if they decide upon expanding the remit 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: for the COVID inquiry. We're back with our huddle in 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, Tim Wilson and Mike Munroe. 89 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled reach 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: and results. 91 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: You're back with the huddle of Mike Munroe, Tim Wilson, 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: our huddlers this evening and Mike the pothole Police coming 93 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: to a place near you. The Transport Minister announcing a 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: total of four billion dollars in funding across a couple 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: of different funds to prevent or to fix up and 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: then prevent future potholes around the country. 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, look, it just seems an 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: absurd amount of money extually, Jack, Look, maybe I don't 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: get out of on the road, but is that pothole 100 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: problem really that bad that it requires four billion dollars 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: in total? Also, there's been nothing said today but where 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: that money is coming from. There's no not much context. Runner, 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: I mean, does this mean that other maintenance funding is 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: going to be cut? It just seems strange amount of money. 105 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: It just comes on top of the fact that in 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: the budget there's about three billion dollars with cuts of 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: climate initiatives when you when you add them all up, 108 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: and this is around the climate Emergency response on qv 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: owns cuts, et cetera. So it just comes back, you know, priorities, 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: and I am concerned about the priorities of this government. 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: They just ignoring the climate funding side of the occasion 112 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: of the equation and just throwing everything at the road. 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, term if the text or anything to go by 114 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: this evening, those probably saying people have been upset about 115 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: the potholes are preparing to be really upset by the 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: number of orange road cones and stop go signs they're 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: going to be encountering over the next couple of years. 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: It's true, there's yeah, I see a lot of road works. 119 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of roads actually working, But 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: that that's another story. 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: Look. 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: In January twenty twenty three, the Freight Transfer Association said 123 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: that there was a record high number of potholes in 124 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: the previous year, five hundred and fifty five complaints. I know, 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: we say, and look a bit like you might, I don't. 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't encounter a great deal of them. So I've 127 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: actually spoke to people who drive further and longer, typically 128 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: at work, and there is there is a sense that 129 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: there's a sort of an annoyance. Not annoyance, it's actually like, golly, 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: this could rip up my car. So I think it's 131 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: it's it's a sensible thing. And also if it's if 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: it's affecting our trend or infrastructure which a lot of 133 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: stuff gets delivered by my trucks, then that that helps 134 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: the economy function. 135 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Ter mode changes, acne, weight gain, potential changes in either 136 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: direction when it comes. 137 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: To you don't holidays or. 138 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: So. 139 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: These are some of the potential side effects for the 140 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: new male contraceptive that apparently is testing very well. We 141 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: spoke to a research before who says they hoping to 142 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: have it on market relatively soon. What do you think, 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: as a man with well more children than he has 144 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: fingers to count? The one I would have thought these 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: days is this something that Tim. 146 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Wilson might consider that that is not true? And look, 147 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I think it is a recognition that the female contraceptive 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: pill is less than ideal. But can I just say 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: that children are not sometimes of disease to be medicated 150 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: against their an absolute gift. You are confronted with all 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: of your virtues and a whole bunch of your flaws, 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: and you have to somehow mediated meanwhile pouring out with 153 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: love for you. I gave my eighteen month old also 154 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: a kiss today, and he put his tiny little arms 155 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: around me and kissed me back, and it was the 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: most beautiful thing. And by the way, we are facing 157 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: a demographic collapse. So throw away the gel, don't buy 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: the damn gel, throw away the bills. Let's have more 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: damn kid. 160 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: I knew Tim would have strong thoughts on that one. 161 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: Thank you both so much for your time this evening. 162 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: We really appreciate that hurdle. Mike Munro and Tim Wilson. 163 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 164 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.