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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duper c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to coverage like no one else News Talks AV.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're convening

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Speaker 3: a huddle on the Prime Minister's position in the polling.

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Speaker 3: Brent Eckles, the concert promoter on the new Western Springs idea,

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Speaker 3: Yes there's another one. And the Warriors coach Andrew Webster

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Speaker 3: on his squad how they're looking ahead of the first

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Speaker 3: game against the Roosters tonight at seven past four.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cy Ala, Well, the.

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Speaker 3: Phones are running hot today. I'll tell you that over

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Speaker 3: National's poll number, because twenty eight point four percent is

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Speaker 3: a disaster. On this number, twelve National MPs lose their jobs,

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Speaker 3: no List MP's return. Nikola Willis is not in parliament,

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith is not in parliament, and the list goes on.

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Speaker 3: What everyone at the other end of the phone in

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Speaker 3: politics today is trying to figure out is whether the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister is preparing to quit his job or whether

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Speaker 3: there is an appetite to roll him. Now there is

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Speaker 3: speculation that he is considering this weekend giving up his job.

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Speaker 3: It is not clear to me whether this is real

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Speaker 3: or whether this is mischief making. It is entirely possible

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Speaker 3: it is mischief making by other people who want to

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Speaker 3: see him out of the job, maybe to further other

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Speaker 3: people's interests. That is possible. There is no appetite to

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Speaker 3: roll him at the moment because that looks messy and

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Speaker 3: runs the chance of costing National the election. They are waiting,

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Speaker 3: and let me assure you there are ministers who are

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Speaker 3: actively waiting for him to step down himself. And this

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Speaker 3: is now a significant problem for Chris Luxman, one that

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Speaker 3: you cannot simply right away, wave away and say is

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Speaker 3: not an issue. He is now in dead man walking territory.

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Speaker 3: There has now been too much leadership chatter for too long,

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Speaker 3: most recently with Chris Bishop's failed coup attempt last year.

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Speaker 3: His personal polling is now so abysmal, and the party's

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Speaker 3: polling is now below the thirty percent red line and falling,

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Speaker 3: and all of that stuff adds up to a leadership

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Speaker 3: that cannot continue, not if National expects to come out

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Speaker 3: is now becoming a question in a lot of people's minds,

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Speaker 3: whether it's real or not in a lot of people's minds,

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Speaker 3: and perception is reality of not if. But when he

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Speaker 3: stands down, does he stand down now? Does he wait

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Speaker 3: until closer to the election? Does he see through the

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Speaker 3: election and bow out a year afterwards? The fact that

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Speaker 3: it is becoming accepted wisdom that Chris Luxen cannot continue

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Speaker 3: in this position is in and of itself poisonous. I

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Speaker 3: make no predictions other than to say it can't go

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Speaker 3: on like this.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 3: One two nine through is the text number. Let me

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Speaker 3: know what you think standard text. Bee's applying. We're going

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Speaker 3: to have Joseph Pergarani and Trisherson and after five o'clock

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Speaker 3: convening an emergency huddle to get their take on what

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Speaker 3: is going on here. Now on to another subject. Qes

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Speaker 3: of forming at petrol stations as worried commuters try to

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Speaker 3: fill their tanks before the war and Iran sends the

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Speaker 3: fuel prices through the roof. The price of crude oil

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Speaker 3: has shot up since the start of the war. The

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Speaker 3: AA is expecting the petrol prices here to go up

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Speaker 3: next week as a result. Simon Parham is why Tormal

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Speaker 3: group's CEO, and he joins me, Now, Hi, Simon, I

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Speaker 3: see the AA reckons the prices will go up next week.

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Speaker 3: But haven't they already gone up?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the market had already priced in a

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Speaker 4: bit of tension with the US run nuclear negotiations, but

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Speaker 4: they hadn't certainly hadn't priced in the war. And so

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Speaker 4: that's what we've seen this week is a real spike

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Speaker 4: in those and those crew prices and specifically the Singaporean

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Speaker 3: Are you considering putting up your prices or by how much?

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Speaker 4: Well, looking ahead from where we are today, I think

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Speaker 4: in the coming week we will have to see prices increase,

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Speaker 4: like gasoline between five to ten cents a letter and

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Speaker 3: There's some speculation that we could be looking at by

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've just got to take the market,

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Speaker 4: you know, every day at a time. It's been a

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Speaker 5: To resolve itself pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: But I guess the thing for the customers out there

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Speaker 4: is to shop around. There are good deals out there.

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Speaker 4: Even when I talk about the prices that we might

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Speaker 5: So you know, shop around. There's good deals out there.

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Speaker 3: If you put your prices up by five to ten

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Speaker 3: cents a lead, where does that put your relative to

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Speaker 3: the three dollar mark?

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Speaker 4: Well, at the moment, our ninety one is about two

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Speaker 4: dollars sixty and our diesels two dollars five.

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Speaker 5: So there's still still a way for us to get

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Speaker 4: But there's some competitors out there at the moment who

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Speaker 3: What are you guys pricing in for at this stage?

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Speaker 3: How long this business goes on for in Iran?

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess if we listen to President Trump, he's

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Speaker 4: saying four weeks. I hope it's shorter. But you know,

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Speaker 4: we're just literally taken each day, you know, every day

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Speaker 4: we're hoping for good news and the price is just escalated, escalated, escalated.

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Speaker 4: So where as just a total watching brief.

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Speaker 3: You guys got any cues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, our field demand's been up probably about ten

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Speaker 4: seeing some cues on some sites, but there's product there,

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Speaker 4: plenty of supply there. So it is those customers that

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Speaker 4: are reading the headlines and getting in there and filling

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Speaker 4: up before those those prices increasing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wondering, is it filling up before the

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Speaker 3: in this country?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the industry is definitely managing the stock well,

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Speaker 4: and they mentioned it carefully, but there's twenty days of

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Speaker 4: Singapore every other day, so you know, I guess supplies

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Speaker 4: in the issue right at this moment, but I think

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Speaker 4: they're looking to just front foot it versus what they're

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Speaker 4: seeing in the media and with increasing prices in it now.

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Speaker 3: Marsden point, is this something that we need to discuss.

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Speaker 5: There's probably above pay grade.

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Speaker 4: Look, we'd still probably been a similar situation because we

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Speaker 3: So Marsden point gives us a few weeks supply, right,

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Speaker 3: and apparently there is another twenty nine days worth of

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's realistic, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think the industry here are filled with a lot

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Speaker 4: of great professionals who manage that supply and they do

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Speaker 4: a great job. And you know the break, Like I said,

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Speaker 4: there's a ship arriving every second days from Singapore, So

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Speaker 4: that doesn't just happen by magic.

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Speaker 5: It happens by a lot of great management.

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Speaker 3: Yes, something's good to talk to you, mate, Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much. Timon param who is why Tormal Group CEO?

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Speaker 3: Let me give you the rest of the pole because

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Speaker 3: we've obviously discussed what National is sitting on, which is

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Speaker 3: to twenty eight point four percent. This is, by the way,

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Speaker 3: the taxpayer union curier poll. Oh do I need to

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Speaker 3: do No, I won't do that thing. I'll do that

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Speaker 3: thing later. Just bear with now, shall I do that thing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that thing. Do you remember when I

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Speaker 3: said this to you yesterday? Here's my prediction, because what

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing is there's a poll that's going to come

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Speaker 3: out either tomorrow or Monday, and it is it's bad,

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Speaker 3: bad for them? Was I right?

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Speaker 5: Bad?

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Speaker 7: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: What we've undone is the terrible prediction that we did

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Speaker 3: on the All Blacks coach. So I've got one in

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Speaker 3: the bank and one in the tank. Now, so Nationals

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Speaker 3: on twenty eight point four percent, down basically three points.

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Speaker 3: Labor's up zero point three to thirty four point four,

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Speaker 3: the Greens are up zero point two percent to ten

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Speaker 3: and a half. New Zealand First is down zero point

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Speaker 3: eight points to nine point seven, Actors up zero point

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Speaker 3: eight points to seven and a half. The Mardi Party

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Speaker 3: And on this, although I don't think, I don't get

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Speaker 3: stressed out but this, but on this, the center left

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Speaker 3: that that's a realistic well that's at this stage. I

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Speaker 3: The biggest threat to National is not that they lose government,

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Speaker 3: it's they come in at about the same size as

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Speaker 3: bloody New Zealand first quarter past.

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Speaker 3: Hither the TV and Z news team must be popping

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Speaker 3: the champagne corks or Andrew Lowblow. But speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: we are going to speak to the CEO, Jody O'Donnell,

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Speaker 3: who's going to be with us after six, because of

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Speaker 3: course they've reported today. I'll give you that detail, but

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to them about We'll talk to her rather

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Speaker 3: about Benedict and all of the biased stuff as well.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past four.

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with us. Hello Piney, No

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Speaker 3: biased hair up the wires, Heather, Yeah, that's right. No,

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Speaker 3: that kind of bias is absolutely perfectly acceptable. Do you

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Speaker 3: think are we biased? Are our eyes blinded by it? Though?

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Speaker 3: Can we actually beat the roosters?

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Speaker 8: I think we can beat the roosters. I don't think

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Speaker 8: we're favorite to beat the roosters. I think their favorite.

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Speaker 8: But it is absolutely not beyond the realms of possibility

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Speaker 8: that the Warriors will win tonight. I think we're allowed

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Speaker 8: to be very optimistic. Get the start of the season

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Speaker 8: before a ball's been kicked by the Warriors, and then

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Speaker 8: I think our mood changes across the next sort of

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Speaker 8: twenty four games or whatever it is, before the top

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Speaker 8: eight sort themselves out. Look, I think the Warriors are

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Speaker 8: under strength. We all accept that Luke Metcalf not due

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Speaker 8: back to all round seven, Mitch Barnett still a couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks away, and a couple of other players not

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Speaker 8: available are Rock Oberri among them. But the Roosters are

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Speaker 8: in the same sort of boat. Really, They're a little

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Speaker 8: bit of an unknown quantity at the start of the

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Speaker 8: season as well. It's at go Media Stadium, which has

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Speaker 8: to add a little bit of emphasis and impetus to

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Speaker 8: the Warriors. So yeah, like I say, wouldn't be beyond the

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Speaker 8: realms of possibility that they get off to a winning

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Speaker 8: start tonight.

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Speaker 3: Am I right in thinking the Roosters are among the

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Speaker 3: favorites to win the entire thing?

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Speaker 5: You are?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're in the top six favorites. I think the

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Speaker 8: last time I checked, you've got the Broncos and the

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Speaker 8: Melbourne Storm who put fifty on the eels last night.

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Speaker 11: So the committee looking into whether we should bran social

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Speaker 11: Col Bates is one of the national members on that committee.

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Speaker 11: Some of the recommendations you make are from outer space.

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Speaker 11: They're not real, they're just theoretical whiteboarding.

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Speaker 12: So there's a range of recommendations, a number of what

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Speaker 11: Now regulate elgorithmic recommendation systems. Do you honestly think New

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Speaker 12: From a committee perspective, we said the government should explore this,

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Speaker 6: Let's just go and.

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Speaker 9: Say this should happen right now.

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Speaker 11: Back Monday from six am, the Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers.

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Speaker 2: Talk to Heather first, Heather Dupice, Ellen, Drive with One

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and the Power of Satellite Mobile News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Trump's fired I Spabi Christine on in so we'll have

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Speaker 3: a chat to Dan Mitchinson about that when he's with us.

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Speaker 3: In fifteen minutes. I'm going to get to your text

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Speaker 3: and just quickly want to four twenty five had a

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Speaker 3: The bbl Idea will be dead. Texts Heather, very dramatic,

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Speaker 3: as per usual Relux in the National My understanding is

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Speaker 3: deep breaths, cheers Peter. Well, Peter, news for you is

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Speaker 3: that the very same people who do the polling for

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Speaker 3: The only possible difference is that National is getting it

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Speaker 3: it is entirely possible that they're waiting it to such

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Speaker 3: it's the same people doing the same polling, Heather. National

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Speaker 3: would be idiots to replace Luxon before the election. Nicola

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Speaker 3: and Bishop tainted by the Mulla saga, another coup makes

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Speaker 3: because Winston wouldn't put up with Shipley. Watch the space

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Speaker 3: arrant you are onto something. You make a very good

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Speaker 3: point there. News is next, and remember Barrysapa's with us

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Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

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Speaker 2: it's Heather duplic Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: like no one else US talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be mee'll be benom but you said, just watch me.

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Speaker 3: Hither into the finn ninety five is sitting at three

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Speaker 3: dollars and two cents costre Philia carrap, That isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Barry soapers with us in ten minutes time on what

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Speaker 3: at the moment. Obviously after the poll result. Hither I

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Speaker 3: think that you were analysis of Chris Luxon is spot on.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take more than this to stop me

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Speaker 3: he is a terrible politician. And that's alacidly sixty percent

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Speaker 3: of the job description Giran, Thank you very much. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to run you through the Western Springs proposal when

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Speaker 3: I get a minute. Just stand by for that. Twenty

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Speaker 3: four away from five, it's the.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's being getting up to his old tricks.

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Speaker 1: You're firing.

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Speaker 3: He's replaced Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noman will be moving

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Speaker 3: Over in Australia, Albow has revealed that three Aussies were

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Speaker 13: I can confirm also, though, that no Australian personnel have

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Speaker 3: Time, and finally, nine point five million tons of stinky

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchinson UIST Correspondents with Correspondent is with US. Hello Dan, Hey, Heather,

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Speaker 3: So why did she get the sack?

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Speaker 14: Oh gosh, why didn't she? I mean political liability. I

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Speaker 3: What do we know about this chap taking over from her?

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Speaker 1: He does.

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Speaker 14: capability every hour, and they don't have a navy anymore,

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Speaker 14: and they don't have an air force defense and all

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Speaker 14: their airplanes are gone. So, you know, the these these

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Speaker 14: quote news conferences, I think are more of an opportunity

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Speaker 14: for him to do a little bragging, which he you know,

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Speaker 14: clearly enjoys, and I think a lot of Republicans do.

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Speaker 14: But I think there are also a few that are

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Speaker 14: getting a little well perhaps overwhelmed by the what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Right now, what's the feeling in the States on the

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Speaker 3: ground invasion by the Kurds.

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Speaker 14: I think that's been kind of overshadowed by everything else

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Speaker 14: that's been going on right now. I think that's something

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Speaker 14: that's we're going to hear more of in the in

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Speaker 14: the coming days, I think. Right now, and I hate

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Speaker 14: to say this, but I really the the party politics

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Speaker 14: between the Democrats and the Republicans seem to be taking

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Speaker 14: up a lot of the time on the local news

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Speaker 14: and in print as well. It seems to be more

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Speaker 14: of the fighting going on between Republicans and Democrats that

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Speaker 14: than it is about that which is of course, you know,

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Speaker 14: very important as well, and you know the fact that

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Speaker 14: the President has said no boots on the ground, which

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Speaker 14: I think is you know, is very important to a

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Speaker 14: lot of people over here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now Britney Spee is do we know? I mean,

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Speaker 3: because she's we know, she's been a recent we don't

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Speaker 3: know why, but we think it's a it's a driving

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Speaker 3: under the influence.

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Speaker 14: Do we Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was arrested last night.

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Speaker 14: She was released earlier this morning here and I guess

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Speaker 14: she was called in by another driver who saw her

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Speaker 14: car going all over the place. But you know, there's

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Speaker 14: been a lot of concern over her. I mean, if

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Speaker 14: you're on social media at all, you see these videos

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Speaker 14: that she's been posting on x and Instagram, and they

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Speaker 14: show her dancing by herself. Sometimes she's dancing with knives.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes she's you know, flashing her chest out and it's

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Speaker 14: just this never ending stream of videos and these social

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Speaker 14: media dire entries, and they're be mocked online and people

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Speaker 14: are saying, you know, she needs some help. There's definitely

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Speaker 14: something mental going on with her. In fact, her Instagram

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Speaker 14: account looks like it was taken down earlier this morning too.

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Speaker 14: But you know, things like this tend not to have

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Speaker 14: a very good ending. But let's hope there's going to

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Speaker 14: be some kind of intervention with you.

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Speaker 3: Did you say she's dancing with knives?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 14: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's she's just she's she does

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Speaker 14: these weird videos where she's she's had knives before she's

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Speaker 14: had uh, where she's kind of like taking her top

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Speaker 14: off a little bit, you know, and kind of flashing

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Speaker 14: the camera and you know, it looks like her face

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Speaker 14: is all red and the makeup's running, and she looks

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Speaker 14: like she hasn't brushed her hair in three days, and

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Speaker 14: it's just it's not it's not a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Are we starting to understand why she might have been

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Speaker 3: under that conservative ship then.

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Speaker 14: Yes, and summer wondering if she should be back there

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Speaker 14: under that conservatorship.

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Speaker 3: Dan, thank you very much, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 9: Mate.

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Speaker 3: That's Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent right now. It's coming up

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Speaker 3: eighteen away.

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Speaker 1: From five dol So.

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Speaker 3: By the way, on that insid twitch, I still love it.

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Speaker 3: Look as worried I as I am about the in

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Speaker 3: zid twinty idea, because I think that they are just

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Speaker 3: the haste of it. I think I think poor decisions

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Speaker 3: are often made in haste. I still love the sound

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Speaker 3: of this bloody thing. Apparently the guys behind NZ twenty

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Speaker 3: are talking up the prospect of one of the franchises

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Speaker 3: being based in Queenstown, which is one of their ideas,

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Speaker 3: but then being led by Brenda McCullum and Ben Stokes

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Speaker 3: of England, because of course Ben was born in christ

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Speaker 3: Church and regularly visits family in New Zealand. Now tell

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Speaker 3: me that you wouldn't go and watch that and tell

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Speaker 3: me that that's not better than the Super Smash if

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Speaker 3: you've got bas and stokesy involved, I mean a thousand

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Speaker 3: times over, isn't it? Anyway? On this business with the

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Speaker 3: National Party, Nikola Willis appeared this morning on Nick Mills's

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Speaker 3: show in Wellington and her comments has raised some eyebrows

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Speaker 3: among ministers, particularly this one.

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Speaker 15: He is being asked to give yes no answers to

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Speaker 15: questions that are pretty subtle, have a lot of complexity,

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Speaker 15: and he's admitted that he misspoke on an occasion.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's been a great week for

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Speaker 3: the Prime minister. It's not been a great week for

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's maybe a little bit more honest than

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Speaker 3: people wanted her to be. Also there is this lack

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Speaker 3: of outright support.

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Speaker 5: Is he the right guy?

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Speaker 15: Well, he has the backing of the caucus, and you're not.

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Speaker 6: Giving me an answer is he the right guy?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a simple yes or no answer.

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Speaker 15: Say I am giving you that answer, which is that

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Speaker 15: I'm saying he has the backing of the National Party caucus.

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Speaker 3: I think we can all read between those lines, can't we,

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Speaker 3: because they're like a mile apart. Anyway, As I said,

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Speaker 3: emergency huddles with us after five o'clock to discuss this.

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Speaker 3: Barry Sober is with us on this next sixteen away.

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Speaker 2: From five politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 3: We have just had confirmation the Prime Minister will be

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Speaker 3: joining us after five o'clock. A stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's fourteen away from five and Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: senior political correspondent, is with us. Hi, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so what do you make of this? Is he considering

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Speaker 3: his future?

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Speaker 10: As they say, No, he's not, and neither he should be.

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Speaker 10: I mean, polls are polls, and whichever way you read them,

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Speaker 10: it's not a good poll for the National Party. There's

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Speaker 10: no doubt about that. I mean, twenty eight point four

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Speaker 10: percent is not where they would want to be, as

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Speaker 10: Nicola will have said, and was what the Prime Minister

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Speaker 10: would say, and I think every National Party MP would

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Speaker 10: say the same thing. But I think of all the

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Speaker 10: prime ministers that have come into power since I've been

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Speaker 10: in the place, and he's number twelve, I think he's

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Speaker 10: had the hardest job, maybe with the exception of David

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Speaker 10: Longey who came in after Muldoon, but he's had the

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Speaker 10: hardest job I think of any prime minister that this

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Speaker 10: country has seen since then. So you know, they've done

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Speaker 10: a lot of legislative stuff this government. They may not

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Speaker 10: have gone far enough for some people. And I'm looking

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Speaker 10: at one when I say that, but you know, when

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Speaker 10: you look at the legislative the list that the government's

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Speaker 10: put through, and don't forget they've done a report card

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Speaker 10: on themselves every quarter, I think it's a pretty impressive

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Speaker 10: two and.

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Speaker 16: A half years.

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Speaker 3: It's great. But Barry, they're not popular.

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Speaker 17: No they're not.

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Speaker 10: But then they would not be popular, would because when

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Speaker 10: a party comes in after the economy was given such

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Speaker 10: a thumping by money being printed in what have you

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Speaker 10: in debt ceilings going up, costing ten billion dollars a

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Speaker 10: year to service. You're not going to have a government

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Speaker 10: that's going to be able to come in and within

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Speaker 10: three years turn it around and make New Zealand the

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Speaker 10: pleasant place it was before COVID that it doesn't happen

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Speaker 10: like that, Politics doesn't happen like that. Three years are

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Speaker 10: not going to make the difference. It's the next three years.

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Speaker 10: I think that'll be the telling time. And I'm sure

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Speaker 10: that Christopher Luxen will be there. Even though if these

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Speaker 10: results were translated, which I don't think they will be,

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Speaker 10: on election night, you would see the center Left being

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Speaker 10: coming home with a one seat majority. Now, look, it's

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Speaker 10: so close, and to panic frighten the horses at this

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Speaker 10: stage I think is probably going far too far. I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's like everybody says polls are what they are,

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Speaker 10: the polls are snapshots of public opinion. Well this is

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Speaker 10: a snapshot. They certainly don't like national terribly much at

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Speaker 10: the stage, and it's interesting to see where the national

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Speaker 10: vote's gone. You can't tell by this poll. It hasn't

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Speaker 10: gone to New Zealand, fest hasn't gone to the Act Party.

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Speaker 10: So it'll be narrow. But look to me, I heard

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Speaker 10: the grab that you used of Nikola Willis, but a

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Speaker 10: more appropriate grab, in my view would be Nichola Willis's

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Speaker 10: take on the poll is obviously it's not a good

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Speaker 10: result and they'll have to improve on it between now

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Speaker 10: and the election. But Willis says national have many other

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Speaker 10: things to focus on at the moment.

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Speaker 15: Our National Party team recognize that what New Zealanders don't

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Speaker 15: want to see is us focused on ourselves and who's

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Speaker 15: who in the zoo. They want to see stability, unity,

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Speaker 15: a prime minister leading, keeping our coalition strongly to get.

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Speaker 10: And that's what Chris Luxen has done. When you look

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Speaker 10: at where the National Party was before he became the leader.

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Speaker 10: I think he became the leader far too soon in

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Speaker 10: his political career and he would probably have liked himself

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Speaker 10: to cut the teeth a bit more, but he didn't

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Speaker 10: have the opportunity because the National Party was in such

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Speaker 10: a mess in terms of leadership. He stepped up to

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Speaker 10: the plate, you know, a very short time in politics.

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Speaker 10: But I think he's he's learnt pretty well on the

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Speaker 10: job and I don't think he deserves a poll rating like.

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Speaker 3: This okay, So do you think the polls improve before November?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well I.

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Speaker 3: Well what makes that?

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Speaker 10: Well, there's another spanner in the works, isn't there, And

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Speaker 10: that's the Israeli US invasion of.

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Speaker 3: Because we've had we've had an The economy is on

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Speaker 3: its knees and is just starting to get up off

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Speaker 3: this and it's about to get another lock from what's

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Speaker 3: going on with the oil prices. Okay, so the economy turns,

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Speaker 3: potentially our recovery is not as awesome as it should

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Speaker 3: have been. That counts against him. He shows no personal

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Speaker 3: signs of getting better at the job if anything. Oh well,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about like a performance like Monday, right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about exactly that as well.

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Speaker 3: So that's not improving. So what is it that lifts

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Speaker 3: the pole rating for national so that he's in the

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Speaker 3: clear again.

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Speaker 10: I don't think I've ever seen a person in the

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Speaker 10: prime minister seat that hasn't stumbled on occasions and is

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Speaker 10: not not to the extent that Chris Luxen is being

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Speaker 10: knocked over this. And if you go back to the

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Speaker 10: actual question that was asked at the press conference, it

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Speaker 10: wasn't a question that a prime minister could possibly answer anyway.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 12: Point.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying it's a hostile media, and I think

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Speaker 3: that is a fair point from you. But what changes

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Speaker 3: if he stays in the position. What changes between now

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Speaker 3: and Novembers of the poll rating goes up?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think depending on what happens given what's going

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Speaker 10: on in the Middle East. If it's not the impact

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Speaker 10: that some of us think it might be, then you know,

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Speaker 10: as you said, the economy is finally showing signs of

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Speaker 10: turning the corner. You look at tourism and the like,

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Speaker 10: and our exports sales. I mean, we're doing very well

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Speaker 10: at the moment, and we haven't done as well for

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Speaker 10: a very long time. So I think the economy is

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Speaker 10: turning the corner. And I think given the circumstances that

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Speaker 10: Chris Fluxen took over this job in it's been an

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Speaker 10: extraordinarily difficult time for a prime minister, and I think

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Speaker 10: people will hopefully sit back and reflect and reflect on

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Speaker 10: what a change of government would mean as opposed to

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Speaker 10: thinking of a labor led coalition with the Greens and

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Speaker 10: the Maldi Party in it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, listen to me a favor and listen to the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister with this with us and then we'll wrap

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Speaker 3: the political way. That was a quarter past six barriers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Barry So for senior political correspondence

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Speaker 3: coming up seven away from five now on Saturday tomorrow

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Speaker 3: at the Elleslie Race Course, there's going to be five

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Speaker 3: million bucks in the pot for the NZB key, which

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Speaker 3: is the horse racing. What is fascinating about it is

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Speaker 3: it's on Sky one, which you don't often get. You

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Speaker 3: don't often get. It's rare that they put the horse

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Speaker 3: racing on the Sky one and it's just prompted a

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Speaker 3: question from some of the guys at work as to

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Speaker 3: whether maybe this is the thing that we're all into now,

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Speaker 3: are we getting into horse racing? Sports hut above us

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Speaker 3: after half past five will pitch that one at let

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Speaker 3: me see what they've got to say about it. So yeah, listen.

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Speaker 3: If you're bored with the Western Springs thing, Lord, I'm

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Speaker 3: really sorry, but there is more to this ongoing saga.

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Speaker 3: We've got another plan for Western Springs because you remember,

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Speaker 3: the last plan was just far too much for us

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Speaker 3: to possibly take money from billionaires Ali and Anna. We

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Speaker 3: said no, thanks, don't build us as stadium. So the

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Speaker 3: new plan is we're going to do it ourselves this time.

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Speaker 3: The Council's events Tartuki Auckland Unlimited has pitched upgrading the

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Speaker 3: place so there can be concerts of up to thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand people, but still retaining the ponds and by rugby club.

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Speaker 3: And apparently it's only going to cost us to this

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Speaker 3: is rapepayers and Auckland only going to cost us two

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Speaker 3: and a half million dollars, which I bs on because

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know how far two and

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Speaker 3: a half million dollars does not go at council level.

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Speaker 3: But remember those disco toilets that Wellington City Council put

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the CBD, the one that had

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Speaker 3: only six bogs, like literally six bogs in it two

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Speaker 3: and a half million dollars. So if you think two

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Speaker 3: and a half million dollars gets your six six toilets

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Speaker 3: or an upgrade of Western Spring, I don't know do

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Speaker 3: you believe that. I feel like it's one of those

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Speaker 3: ones where they go, oh yes, sorry, it blew out

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Speaker 3: by about one thousandfold. Anyway, Brent Eckles concert promoter is

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Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly talk us through that.

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Speaker 3: But next up, let's have a chat to the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister about whether he is really doing what they say

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Speaker 3: he's doing, which is reconsidering his future. News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 18: Never before now I'm knocking you know sasday never made

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Speaker 18: a sweat show. You say no one shoes made a

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Speaker 18: sway or our boys are here to say.

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Speaker 2: Kick start your Saturday with Jacktame, A quick break in

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Speaker 2: the Pacific.

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Speaker 16: It's all cocktails and sun tans until you find yourself

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Speaker 16: arrested by police and locked up behind bars.

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Speaker 1: Barbara Driever on life.

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Speaker 16: As a Pacific correspondent, the coops, the natural disasters, the

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Speaker 16: more than a few scandals. This Saturday after ten on Newstalks, He'd.

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Speaker 2: Be Saturday Morning Swift Jack Tame nine a m. Till

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Speaker 2: midday on Newstalks at B the only drive show you

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Speaker 2: can trust truck to ask the questions, get the answers,

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Speaker 2: find the fact and give the analysis. Here the duplic

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Speaker 2: Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 2: satellite Mobile, Newstalks at B.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. There is one I spread speculation this afternoon

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Speaker 3: in political circles that the Prime Minister is considering his

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Speaker 3: future following a brutal poll for National it's the Taxpayer's

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Speaker 3: Union Curier poll has the party at twenty eight point

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Speaker 3: four percent and it's this worst result since the Judith

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Speaker 3: Collins era. And we're joined by the Prime Minister Hig

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Speaker 3: Chris get A Heather.

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Speaker 16: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. Are you considering standing down?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 19: The only thing I'm considering is the future of our

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Speaker 19: kids and our Green kids, and that's why I came

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Speaker 19: to politics. We've got a great country, We've got a

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Speaker 19: hell of a lot to do, and that's what I'm

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Speaker 19: fixated on.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you should consider standing down?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 19: Look, I mean we've got a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 19: and I think you know, I've got skills that actually

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Speaker 19: are very useful at this time when we're trying to

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Speaker 19: navigate some challenging global environments with our biggest challenge in

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Speaker 19: this country is our economy. And I understand the economy well,

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Speaker 19: I appreciate there's a lot of key we're still doing

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Speaker 19: it tough and a challenge by that and are frustrated

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Speaker 19: by that as I am, But you know, we've got

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Speaker 19: to follow the plan and it's starting to work a

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Speaker 19: little bit and we want to see more of it

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Speaker 19: happen the course of the year.

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Speaker 3: What are your ministers telling you? Are any of them

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Speaker 3: telling you to consider your future?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 19: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Are any of them telling you that they back you?

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Speaker 5: All of them? Yes?

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Speaker 20: Is there?

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Speaker 3: If this is not a poll number, Chris, it's bad

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Speaker 3: enough for you to consider your position. What is the

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Speaker 3: poll number at which you do well?

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Speaker 19: Can I just step you through the polls right? Because

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Speaker 19: you know, if you're in my position, I get asked

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Speaker 19: every single week by a different journalist or a different

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Speaker 19: media organization that has its own polling right, And there's

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Speaker 19: often public polls that I'll have two public polls in

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Speaker 19: a week that will be saying different things. And polling

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Speaker 19: in twenty twenty six is really important to get right

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Speaker 19: because there's methodology issues, there are a new media environment,

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Speaker 19: people don't have landline phones. There's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 19: stuff that goes into it. Why only the only polling

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Speaker 19: I look at is the one that we do internally

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Speaker 19: for ourselves, and that's stuff that we actually get processed

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Speaker 19: overseas actually to be honest, because there's skills that we

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Speaker 19: need to process the data.

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Speaker 3: When you say processed, do you mean it gets weighted

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Speaker 3: overseas well.

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Speaker 19: What we do is we do our internal polling. Think

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Speaker 19: Nicholas spoken about this at the end of last year

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Speaker 19: is actually and since I became the leader, I actually

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Speaker 19: get that process in the UK and I have done

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Speaker 19: ever since.

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Speaker 3: And where are you guys sitting Well.

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Speaker 5: I don't talk.

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Speaker 19: About it, obviously, but I just would reassure you if

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Speaker 19: there was a problem, I would be doing something about it.

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Speaker 19: But we are a long way away from what we've

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Speaker 19: seen published in a TPU poll today, and you know,

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Speaker 19: we know we've got work to do. We know this

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Speaker 19: is all about the economy. It's all about actually people

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Speaker 19: feeling it as it improved through the course of the year,

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Speaker 19: and there's a there's a lot more for.

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Speaker 5: Us to do.

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Speaker 19: But that's what I lead. And that's why you know

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Speaker 19: hither you asked me lots of times because it could

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Speaker 19: be a very in TV poll, it could be a

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Speaker 19: fresh water poll, it could be a TPU pole, it

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Speaker 19: can be a Roy Morgan pole, you know, And you know,

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Speaker 19: and people ask me all the time and I always

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Speaker 19: say I don't comment on polls, and that's the reason

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Speaker 19: I don't is that I know the tasket hand. I

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Speaker 19: know what the issue that's concerning Zanders the most is

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Speaker 19: the economy. The economy of the economy. That's what the

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Speaker 19: selection is going to be fought about. I don't believe

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Speaker 19: going down the pathway with labor doing more all of

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Speaker 19: their stuff is the way forward for this country. I

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Speaker 19: think we have an awesome country, but we have a

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Speaker 19: lot of potential to realize on it. And that's what

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Speaker 19: I'm waking up doing each and never.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so is there is there a poll number at

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Speaker 3: which you do start to consider your future.

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Speaker 19: It's not something I've thought about at all, and I

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Speaker 19: haven't discussed it with anybody because it hasn't been hasn't

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Speaker 19: needed to be a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Because what you're asking me to believe, though, Chris, is

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Speaker 3: that all the polls out there that we are seeing

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Speaker 3: public are wrong and there is something special about your

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Speaker 3: poll that makes it right. At a higher level.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 19: I'm just saying if I spend all my time each

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Speaker 19: and every week commenting on different poles that are presented

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Speaker 19: and pitched to me as as Gospel, as Bible, as

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Speaker 19: true and debating that that is a waste of my time.

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Speaker 19: What New Zealanders expect me to be doing is cracking

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Speaker 19: on with the job that I was elected to do.

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Speaker 19: They get to determine a poll on November the seventh,

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Speaker 19: they get to make that decision. We've got a long

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Speaker 19: way to go until then. What I hear from them

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Speaker 19: is the economy, right.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. It's fair what you are saying. But there

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Speaker 3: is also something else which is going on in a heir,

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Speaker 3: which is, if you go to November the seat with

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Speaker 3: a number as low as this, you lose twelve of

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Speaker 3: your MPs. You lose Nikola Willis, you lose Paul Goldsmith.

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Speaker 3: You start cutting into the muscle of the National Party.

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Speaker 3: They are not going to stand for it. Your ministers

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Speaker 3: are not going to stand there on November six and

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Speaker 3: say that that's all right. They're going to roll you,

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Speaker 3: aren't They.

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Speaker 19: So hit that I have the full support of my

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Speaker 19: team and my caucus.

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Speaker 3: Right, But they say to leaders before they roll leaders.

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Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting they're about to I'm not suggesting they're

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Speaker 3: about to roll you. But all I am saying is

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Speaker 3: you cannot take this to the election. You can't go

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Speaker 3: to the election on a number like this.

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Speaker 19: Can you well, I just say to you, that's not

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Speaker 19: what we're planning to do, and that's not what.

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Speaker 3: We are How are you going to lift it?

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Speaker 19: Well, what we've got to do is've got to deliver

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Speaker 19: for the economy, right, I mean that is really what

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Speaker 19: New Zealanders are telling us. This is the major major

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Speaker 19: issue here that if I look at my qualitative research,

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Speaker 19: we look at our quantitative research, what are the biggest

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Speaker 19: concerns for News Islanders. It's been cost of living in

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Speaker 19: the economy by a long shot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and the economies on its knees, and the recovery

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Speaker 3: was already going to be a grind for us this

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Speaker 3: year with what's going on in Iran. Can you credibly

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Speaker 3: tell me that this is going to help you out

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Speaker 3: the selection, because I think I think it's not well.

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Speaker 1: I dis agree.

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Speaker 19: I think the economy, the economic recovery is underway. You've

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Speaker 19: seen positive quarterly growth last quarter. You've seen inflation in

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Speaker 19: the band. You've got ocr down nine cuts in twenty

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Speaker 19: four months. You've got the consumer confidence the highest it's

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Speaker 19: been since twenty twenty one. You've got business conference higher

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Speaker 19: since twenty fourteen, you've got farmer confidence higher since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 19: You've even got manufacturing.

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Speaker 3: Growth in this run stuff you're talking about.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, sure, sure here that. But there's one hundred and

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Speaker 19: nety five countries in the world and eight billion people

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Speaker 19: and they are all having to navigate the same scenario

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Speaker 19: that we are. But New Zealand, relative to other countries

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Speaker 19: in the world, despite the shocks, despite the dramas that

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Speaker 19: are going on, and the conflicts that are going on,

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Speaker 19: is in better position than anybody else to navigate all

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Speaker 19: of that. That is why we have been out and

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Speaker 19: about making sure we're diversifying, deepening the relationships internationally, opening

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Speaker 19: up trading opportunities. Most of our focus is in the

878
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Speaker 19: Indo Pacific region where most of our business gets done. Yes,

879
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 19: there's uncertainty around this event, Iran, and yes there's risk

880
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 19: around a whole bunch of things, but you know, we

881
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Speaker 19: are well prepared, we are well diversified, We've developed relationships

882
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Speaker 19: to be able to deal with that, and I think

883
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Speaker 19: our relative performance compared to any other country on Earth,

884
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Speaker 19: I'd sooner be leading New Zealand than any other place

885
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Speaker 19: at this point in time, and I think we can

886
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Speaker 19: do really well with it.

887
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: Chris, how are you going to improve your performance, because

888
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: your performance and the stuff that we saw on Monday,

889
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: fumbling over answers, is what is also dragging the party

890
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: vote down.

891
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that.

892
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Speaker 19: I mean, I think I've freely admitted I'm not a

893
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Speaker 19: career politician. I'm not going to always have the perfect,

894
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 19: most tidy SoundBite like someone who's been there twenty years

895
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 19: would do, and I will probably make mistakes and not

896
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Speaker 19: get it perfect each and every time. But that's not

897
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Speaker 19: what I'm there to do. I'm there to do is

898
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Speaker 19: to communicate to the best of my ability, but most importantly,

899
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Speaker 19: to drive a team to improve economic outcomes, to create

900
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Speaker 19: opportunity for z Islanders. That's what I'm doing. Well, you know,

901
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 19: I mean, I think you know, just think about hither.

902
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 19: We're dealing with a really crappy situation we've inherited, We've

903
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 19: got really volatile global conditions. We're navigating through the economic

904
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 19: challenges we've got. I'm doing it with the coalition partners

905
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 19: as a result, and we've got a team of ministers

906
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Speaker 19: that I think are we findessally hard.

907
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: Finally, you're doing I'm doing an admirable job of making

908
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: it sound like this doesn't matter. But the fact that

909
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: you're on the show talking about it says you know

910
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: this matters right.

911
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 19: Well, it's just that I've been down in Masterton with

912
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 19: Golden Years yesterday. I've been out of my elector and

913
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 19: Botany doing series of events, and I've picked up as

914
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 19: I've come back into finishing my events in Botany. The

915
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 19: whole world seems I've got very exercised about. I'm considering

916
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 19: my future. Reason I'm coming on your show as to

917
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 19: clarify to people, no, I'm not doing that. I'm considering

918
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 19: very deeply the future for New Zealand and nothing's changed

919
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 19: for me. So I appreciate the media may have got

920
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 19: carried away through the course of the day in reacting

921
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 19: to another public poll of which there are many, and

922
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 19: I'm just trying to give some perspective to it and

923
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Speaker 19: some balance to it.

924
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Speaker 3: All right, Chris, thank you for coming on the show.

925
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: I really appreciate your time, of course, as always, Chris

926
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Speaker 3: luxon Prime Minister the quarter past five. Here the look

927
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Speaker 3: at how wrong the polls were in Australia and the

928
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Speaker 3: UK elections. We are led well by our current Prime

929
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: minister to give them a break. That interview just confirms

930
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Speaker 3: that Christopher Luxon does need to go. He's a millstone

931
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Speaker 3: around national Voter's next hither. I love to hear the

932
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Speaker 3: passion and the determination from the Prime Minister. He couldn't

933
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Speaker 3: be clearer and frankly it's good to hear him this

934
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Speaker 3: fired up and focused. Yeah, I'll get you some more.

935
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: We'll come back to this because obviously it's more to

936
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Speaker 3: discuss you, including the texts that say it's got to

937
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: be Erica Stanford has got to be Mark Mitchell standby

938
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Speaker 3: and we'll deal with that shortly. It's nineteen past five.

939
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Speaker 3: Evert a little update for you on the ongoing saga

940
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Speaker 3: of the Western Springs in Auckland. Auckland Council has now

941
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Speaker 3: revealed it wants to upgrade the existing concert Bowl with

942
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Speaker 3: capacity for thirty thousand people, while also retaining the Ponsby

943
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Speaker 3: Rugby Club. There'll be a vote by the end of

944
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Speaker 3: the month. Brent Eccles is a concert promoter with Eccles

945
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Speaker 3: Entertainment and with US. Hi Brent, Hey, Gary, I'm well,

946
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Speaker 3: thank you. What do you make of this plan?

947
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Speaker 21: Oh, I'm very much involved in this plan. Myself and

948
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Speaker 21: Campbell Smith have been talking to counsel about this for

949
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Speaker 21: some time. We're very excited about it.

950
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Speaker 3: Okay, what do we actually get in this plan?

951
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Speaker 21: Well, Western Springs is really only purpose built music venue

952
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Speaker 21: in Auckland, and you know, everyone has a great story

953
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Speaker 21: about Western Springs. But the thing is that, you know,

954
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Speaker 21: we're not trying to compete with the you know, Eaton Park,

955
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Speaker 21: which is fifty thousand people, perfect for your for your

956
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Speaker 21: big you know, Elton John's or that that kind of

957
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 21: that kind of artist. But it's more of a it's

958
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Speaker 21: more of a younger contemporary kind of idea for around

959
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Speaker 21: thirty thousand with a purpose built stage and some some

960
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Speaker 21: some VIP infrastructure put in there that's permanent as well,

961
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Speaker 21: So it will be a very economical idea for promoters

962
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Speaker 21: to use.

963
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Can we really get away with it for two and

964
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Speaker 3: a half million dollars to rape?

965
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Speaker 5: Itu?

966
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Speaker 6: Yes?

967
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Speaker 12: Are you sure?

968
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: Because two and a half million dollars in Wellington only

969
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Speaker 3: bought them six toilets.

970
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know.

971
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Speaker 21: I have no idea what that's about. But I think

972
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 21: we have a much better line on this. Myself and

973
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Speaker 21: Campbell have a lot of experience in the music business

974
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Speaker 21: and concerts, and I think we can very easily puts

975
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Speaker 21: the facilities in there or develop some some ideas that

976
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Speaker 21: are already basically there to make it more economical. So

977
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Speaker 21: I'm happy about that. We will work on this for

978
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Speaker 21: quite some time now, and I think having the stage

979
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Speaker 21: in there permanently also makes it very attractive.

980
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why is this better than what we were

981
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: going to get from the billionaires the purpose built stadium.

982
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 21: Well, they're going to they're going to pull it down

983
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 21: and put a soccer thing in there when they I

984
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 21: don't know. I think I think a contemporary music being

985
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 21: he was better than a soccer stadium. I don't know.

986
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 21: That's not my game. My game's concert. So I can

987
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 21: see some real value in this.

988
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: Brilliant Brent, Thank you very much. Always appreciate your time. Mate.

989
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: This is Brent eccles. Who is a concert promoter? Okay,

990
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: let's deal next with if it's not Chris Lux and

991
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: who on earth? Who on earth is it?

992
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 22: Five twenty one on your smart speaker, on the iHeart

993
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 22: app and in your car on your drive ho it's

994
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 22: Heather duplic Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the

995
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 22: power of satellite mobile news talks.

996
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: Then being Andrew Webster, the coach of the Warriors is

997
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: because of course they're playing the rooster tonight, so he's

998
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: going to be with us straight after the news. Right now,

999
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: it's five twenty four Now re National and its problems, right,

1000
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: twenty eight point four percent in the polling is a

1001
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: significant problem for National. It seems to me they have

1002
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: got four options for how to deal with this an

1003
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: election year. They can continue with Chris Lucksen, they can

1004
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: switch out to Chris Bishop, switch out to Erica Stanford,

1005
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: or switch out to Mark Mitchell. Now I think sticking

1006
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: with Chris Luction Luxen is a credible option simply because

1007
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: changing is sitting prime minister eight months out from an

1008
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: election is an incredibly risky thing to do. It signals instability.

1009
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: But then again, a labor a leader rather that can't

1010
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: articulate a simple foreign policy position on whether the New

1011
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Zealand supports bombing Iran doesn't really look like that's very

1012
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: much stability, does it. It knocks confidence in the leader

1013
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: and his lack of popularity is now clearly dragging National

1014
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: down in the polls. Here's a drag on the party.

1015
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: Chris Bishop is good in media interviews. He's not going

1016
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: to make the same basic mistakes that Chris Luckson does.

1017
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: He's got very good political radar as well. He's also

1018
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: I think lefty enough or liberal enough to be able

1019
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: to be in the Labour Party if he wanted to,

1020
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: So he's going to have appeal across the spectrum. But

1021
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: unfortunately for him, he is a street fighter, and everyone

1022
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: can see that he's a street fighter, and that makes

1023
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: it kind of struggle for your mum to vote for him,

1024
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. He's also shot his

1025
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: chances frankly with Caucus after trying to roll Luxon last year,

1026
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: so they're not going to support him in the role.

1027
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: Erica Stanford is really well liked publicly, so she's got

1028
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: some appeal, and she comes from Auckland, which counts for

1029
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: a lot. She is great in her portfolios, excellent in education,

1030
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: very good in those interviews, also liberal enough to appeal

1031
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: to labor and left voters, but she's untested on everything

1032
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: that a prime minister's got to know. She's great in

1033
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: interviews on the subject she knows, but have you ever

1034
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: heard her interviewed on a subject she doesn't know. She

1035
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: has an instinct to fight dirty as well, which I

1036
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: don't think is quite as appealing in a female politician,

1037
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: and she might burn herself out with anxiety and micromanaging.

1038
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell has the cuddly dad appeal. I think that

1039
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: is by far and away his biggest asset. He is

1040
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: a nice guy. You can see it. You like him.

1041
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: He's likable. He's also sure of his own mind, which

1042
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: I think counts for a lot when you think about

1043
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 3: how Luxeon's and decisiveness has hurt him. Problem for Mark

1044
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: Mitchill is again great in his portfolios. Has he really

1045
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: been tested in other areas? Is he great on all

1046
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: of the detail that a prime minister needs to know? Now,

1047
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: if I had to put my money, if you said

1048
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: to me, I'm in the National Party, corks and I

1049
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: have to put my money on what's going to work?

1050
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: And it's a wild guess, right, no one knows. But

1051
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: I would say a combo of Erica Stanford and Mark

1052
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: Mitchell would probably be the way to go. One is

1053
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: the leader, one is the deputy. But bold call. Whether

1054
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: I would pull the trigger and do it in an

1055
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: election year, I'm not sure it is a bold call

1056
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: to swap out an election year, and it would take

1057
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: lux in giving himself up for that to happen, because

1058
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: they are not going to roll him. They want an

1059
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: orderly handover. And at the moment, as you heard from him,

1060
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 3: there is no sign that he is there in his

1061
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: head just yet. Ever, do for see Allen Right, US

1062
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: Secretary of Will peak if Pete Higgs seth reckons, it's

1063
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: about to go level in Iran, So keep an eye

1064
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: out for that over the weekend that he says the

1065
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: American firepower is about to surge dramatically. And it seems

1066
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: to me that this comes down to the UK basically

1067
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: allowing the United States to use the base in the

1068
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: Chagos Islands so they can step up their bombardment. Also

1069
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: another interesting thing to keep an eye on, and this is,

1070
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: I mean, what he's talking about is going to happen

1071
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 3: short term, more medium turn, the Ukrainians are being asked

1072
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: for their help. I'll give you some numbers later on

1073
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: in the program. But the Iranians are excellent with their drones,

1074
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: and of course the Ukrainians are excellent with their drones.

1075
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: So the Allies want the Ukrainians to come and tell

1076
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: them how to take down the Iranian drones which are

1077
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: causing all the trouble anyway, just a reminder Barry Soper

1078
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: and I'll give you those numbers. But Barry Soper wrapping

1079
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: the political week later.

1080
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Speaker 1: On, cutting through the noise to get the facts.

1081
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: It's Heather def Clan drive with one New Zealand coverage

1082
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: like no one else news talks.

1083
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: They'd bend.

1084
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: Heather great interview with Chris. It's an I'm in Luxein's court.

1085
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: It's all about the economy, stupid. Yeah, that's the problem

1086
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: because we don't know what's going to happen with the

1087
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: economy in the next year. Do you know what I

1088
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: thought occurred to me during the news, which is that

1089
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: I think that Chris Luxon, I think coming out and

1090
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Speaker 3: doing that interview might have been the smartest thing that

1091
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Speaker 3: he did today because this is going to surely this

1092
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: will shut everything down. Don't you think what's happened For

1093
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: the last twelve hours we've all been awake and reading

1094
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: the newspapers. It's just been winding itself up. Started with

1095
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: the Herald dropping the story this morning what the pole

1096
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: result was going to be. Everybody started the phones ringing,

1097
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: the winding each other up, winding each other up, winding

1098
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: each other up. He's come out. He said, I'm not

1099
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: going anywhere, and we're always speculating he's thinking about what

1100
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: he's doing Yetna, No I'm not. And that's put an

1101
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: end to that. So I think that might be the

1102
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: smart thing to have done. And I think it basically

1103
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: puts everybody back in their boxes. What do you think anyway?

1104
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: Barri's or get Barry Sobers take when he's with us,

1105
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: he'll wrap the political week that was called a past sex.

1106
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: Right now, it's twenty four away from.

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Speaker 1: Six together due for sel So the Warriors.

1108
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Season's about to get underway. Fans are going to be

1109
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: out in force again tonight in Auckland. They're going to

1110
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: play the Roosters. Neither side has set the preseason alike.

1111
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: Both have lost their matches, but the Roosters are rated

1112
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Speaker 3: is one of the favorites for the title. Warrior's coach

1113
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Speaker 3: is Andrew Webster.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Andrew, Hi, here you going.

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00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. It was a tough game

1116
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: for you guys to start the season. Do you reckon?

1117
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: You can flip them.

1118
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 6: Always confident in our team, always confident in our boys.

1119
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 6: But easier you said, than done. But we'll find out tonight,

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Speaker 6: won't we I'm looking forward.

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00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: You're going to have a huge crowd, right, so that'll

1122
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: go somewhere to helping.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it always helps. Our fans always a big factor

1124
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Speaker 6: when we have success home in a way because we

1125
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Speaker 6: get so many theres. But Mount Smart will be rocking

1126
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Speaker 6: tonight and I'm sure the boys are going to love it.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about the team this year in

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Speaker 3: terms of form given what you've seen in previous years.

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Speaker 6: Well, our trials are pretty average, if I'll be honest,

1130
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 6: not the standard we wanted. But I feel like it

1131
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: gave us a real focus on what we needed to

1132
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 6: brush up on. That worried me long term, if it

1133
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 6: makes sense, But it gave us a real focus and

1134
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 6: probably a bit of an edge that we needed, so

1135
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 6: that was good. I felt like our trials is very

1136
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 6: much we practiced what we wanted to try and get

1137
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 6: better at, rather than actually, you know, we're out to

1138
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 6: win it, so I think we've got a bit lost

1139
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 6: in that. But you know, I reckon if you ask

1140
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: me for the next five years before round one, I'm

1141
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 6: going to say I love this roster because I just

1142
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: you think, as a coach, I always confident what you've got.

1143
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 6: Ye're really looking forward to it with these boys.

1144
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: Have you got any interest yet from the Aussie clubs

1145
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: and Mitch Barnett?

1146
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 6: None that I know, None are spoken to me. I

1147
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 6: stay out of those things.

1148
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: Do you do you like the idea that has been

1149
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: pitched of trading him for maybe one or two players.

1150
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 6: I'm on game day here, I'm not.

1151
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: Not even going here with this thing.

1152
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 6: No, don't ye.

1153
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: When is by the way, when's he back?

1154
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 6: I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure, Yed. He's recovering

1155
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 6: really well, he's getting closer. He's training with the boys.

1156
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 6: He's he's a nightmare to handle it training at the moment,

1157
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: which is a good thing for the boys and bad

1158
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 6: thing as well.

1159
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 9: They've got to tackling.

1160
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 6: So now he's getting a lot closer, So it'd be

1161
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 6: good to have him done.

1162
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what about Luke metcalf Win's he back?

1163
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 6: He's he'd be pretty you know, probably between round four

1164
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 6: and round seven?

1165
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: Is I mean it must it must be a bit

1166
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: of a bit gutting to miss both of these guys

1167
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: when when you first cack.

1168
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: Off, Well, I've had a lot of time to understand it,

1169
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 6: know it and also we've got a lot of confidence

1170
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 6: in our depth and the people that will be playing.

1171
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 6: So yeah, the competitions, competition's good for us. And when

1172
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 6: these guys come back, hopefully the other guys make it

1173
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 6: make it hard for him. So looking forward, looking forward

1174
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: to seeing the guys who have been given opportunities, how

1175
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 6: they step up brilliant.

1176
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Speaker 3: Hey listen, good luck tonight, Andrew. I hope you guys

1177
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: win the game. That's Andrew Weeps to the Warriors coach.

1178
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 3: Twenty one away from.

1179
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Speaker 2: Six the Fredi Sports Hurdle with New Zealand stuff these

1180
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: international realty, a name you can trust locally and globally.

1181
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 23: Big God's the fastest tea twenty hundred e the world,

1182
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 23: heather for the men for an hour mount the black

1183
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Speaker 23: Cats get into the final.

1184
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Speaker 3: There was a board meeting this morning of the New

1185
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby Board and there was a unanimous endorsement of

1186
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: Da Renny as the new the next head coach of the.

1187
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Speaker 1: Or Mix Maloney at one time time.

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00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: Sports tital of us. This evening, Clay Wilson News Dog

1189
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: ZB Sport News director and Elliott Smith, Newstalk ZB Rugby

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00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: editor Highlands Clay, how do you write the Warriors this.

1191
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 9: Year, I'm the million dollar Christian here Andrew with the

1192
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 9: loads coge. You go into you pre season with hope,

1193
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 9: but you know, the NRL is such a every year,

1194
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 9: such a hard competition to predict. Of course, the sort

1195
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 9: of familiar names, your Storms, your Roosters, your Panthers, you

1196
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 9: can expect them to be there come the end. But

1197
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 9: the rest and the Warriors fit into this bunch, it's

1198
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 9: kind of up for grabs. You know. We look at

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Speaker 9: the Warriors last year. They started with a Round one

1200
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 9: something over in Las Vegas and then I think they

1201
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 9: won seven of their next eight games or something like that.

1202
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 9: You know, so you just got to give it time.

1203
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 9: It's the old cliche.

1204
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: You've started all pessimistic, like you've already got this one

1205
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: down as a loss.

1206
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 9: No, well you never, you know, I don't like to

1207
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 9: give me get ahead of myself in sport, but especially

1208
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 9: when it comes to the Warriors and the NRL, I

1209
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 9: think is more to the point you just have to

1210
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 9: give it time. But they certainly got the you know,

1211
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 9: they've got the players, especially once they get you know,

1212
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 9: you spoke about Mitch Bunny and Luke Metcalfe back. Anything's

1213
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 9: anything's possible, but you know you've got to you've got

1214
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 9: to keep your key players fit and you've got to

1215
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 9: be there come the end.

1216
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alier, I get the feeling that they are just

1217
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: quietly smarting about much Barnett, the loss of him and

1218
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: what the impact of that, and you know, having having

1219
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: injuries at the start of the season. So just a

1220
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: bit burnt, isn't it.

1221
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 17: It is a bit yeah, And look, they obviously have

1222
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 17: the services of Barnett once he's back from injury, but

1223
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 17: there's still that cloud hanging over that he is going

1224
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 17: after this season, I think the Warriors will be on

1225
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 17: the verge of making the eight. They might be sort

1226
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 17: of between seven and ten. I don't think their roster

1227
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 17: is as good as Andrew Webster has made it out

1228
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 17: to be before when you were chatting to him. I

1229
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 17: suppose you're a coach, You've got to talk up your roster.

1230
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 17: But the depth will found out. You know last season

1231
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 17: when Barnett was injured, when Metcalf was injured, and they

1232
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 17: sort of limped into the playoffs. Well, they're going to

1233
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 17: start the season without those two again, and they haven't

1234
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 17: made any discernible real roster improvements in the off season,

1235
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 17: so I see them in the back half of the

1236
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 17: eighth and maybe even missing the eighth this season. So

1237
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 17: I'm not as confident perhaps as Andrew Webster is. I

1238
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 17: think he's a very good coach. I think they've got

1239
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 17: a top eight coach. I'm just not sure they've got

1240
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 17: a top eight roster.

1241
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, a fair point. Now, how do you feel clear

1242
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: about us getting India? I feel like India in the

1243
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: cricket is the dream.

1244
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 9: Well, certainly the dream. If you win, you know, it

1245
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 9: doesn't too much sweeter than beating India and India and

1246
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 9: you know we've had success, you know of recent in

1247
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 9: terms of Test cricket over there against India and that

1248
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 9: was such a special result a couple of years ago.

1249
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 9: But I think you look at the favorites coming into

1250
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 9: the tournament, especially given India hosting it. But such a

1251
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 9: powerful TA twenty team anyway, but I think this is

1252
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 9: T twenty cricket and as was proven in the semi final,

1253
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 9: the black Caps dominant victory ever South Africa, who came

1254
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 9: into that game as the only unbeaten team of the tournament,

1255
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 9: we're doing everything right and then they got absolutely demolished

1256
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 9: by a team that just played superbly on the day.

1257
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 9: So it's a real it's a real coin toss. But

1258
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 9: I think, you know, if you want a sweet victory,

1259
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 9: if you want a victory that people are going it's

1260
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 9: going to make people stand up and take notice, especially

1261
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 9: in a nation of what one point however many billion

1262
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 9: that a cricket mad then you've got that in India

1263
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 9: if you can come out on the right side of

1264
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 9: Is there a.

1265
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: Risk, elliot that we've played our final.

1266
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 17: Possibly look at all clicked in the semi final against

1267
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 17: South Africa and they played some really good cricket, bowled

1268
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 17: well with a you know, understrength bowling attack, you'd have

1269
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 17: to say, and then the Ottening combo came off, which

1270
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 17: it hasn't always happened this tournament. Really clicked in for

1271
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 17: that one. But I think, you know, the black Caps

1272
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 17: were quite happy going in as underdogs. The whole nation

1273
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 17: of India, it will be expectant, but India have been

1274
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 17: you know, to be honest. South Africa is often painted

1275
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 17: as one of the chokers in world cricket. Well, India's

1276
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 17: right up there. They lost the fifty over final on

1277
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 17: home soil in twenty twenty three. They lost to New

1278
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 17: Zealand and the World Test Championship final in twenty twenty one.

1279
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 17: They love a good choke, the Indians.

1280
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: So I'm excited Elliott that we've got yeh.

1281
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 17: Look, I think the black Caps can get in their heads. Look,

1282
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 17: the black Caps aren't the flashiest team in world cricket.

1283
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 17: They have got a serviceable sort of bowling attack which

1284
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 17: is nothing really to write home about, but they do

1285
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 17: their jobs well and look, I think there are chants

1286
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 17: on Monday morning. However, having said that, look we saw

1287
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 17: how quickly they took the game away against Inland this morning,

1288
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 17: making you two fifty to sixty and a tea twenty

1289
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 17: game which used to be passcore in fifty over cricket.

1290
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 17: If they get going, very very hard to stop.

1291
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're going to have to talk about obviously,

1292
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: you know, Dave Rennie not like that wasn't the biggest

1293
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: news in sport for New Zealand. So we'll do that

1294
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: next sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 3: Just a reminder, the CEO of TV and Zetter is

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Speaker 3: with us after six to talk us through the results today,

1299
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: but also the Benedict Collins story thirteen away from six

1300
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Speaker 3: and You're back with a sports huddle Elliott Smith and

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Speaker 3: Clay Wilson. Elliott whe they picked Dave Rennie over Jamie Joseph.

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Speaker 17: I think the international experience that he's had as a

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Speaker 17: Tier one nation was the big one in the end.

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Speaker 17: I've been thinking about this the last couple of days,

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Speaker 17: since the madness of Wednesday and the appointment and everything

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Speaker 17: that went around it. But I think ultimately having played

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Speaker 17: tier one nations more often as a Tier one team,

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Speaker 17: you know, Rugby Championship for three years, even in COVID

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Speaker 17: times as Wallabies coach end of year tours, playing the

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Speaker 17: top teams up there different kettle of fish. Having coach

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Speaker 17: the Wallabies used to record for Dave. The Wallaby's was

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Speaker 17: fairly mixed and we know how it all ended for

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Speaker 17: him there. But I think that experience of having to

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Speaker 17: face top tier teams week in week out will have

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Speaker 17: battle hardened Dave Rennie, and more so than Jamie Joseph,

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Speaker 17: who can point to what he did with Japan at

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Speaker 17: the twenty nineteen World Cup. But yeah, the all Blacks

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Speaker 17: is such a relentless business. It's those big games, you know,

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Speaker 17: week in week out, you don't get a breather really

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Speaker 17: when you're the All Blacks coach. And I think ultimately

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Speaker 17: knowing how to get teams up and the rhythms of

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Speaker 17: a test match rugby season ultimately saw them hand Dave

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Speaker 17: Renny the job.

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Speaker 3: Do you think, Clay, that there is any truth to

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Speaker 3: the idea that Jamie Joseph is is just going to

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Speaker 3: sit back and wait to see what happens at the

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Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup and if it doesn't go, if it

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Speaker 3: doesn't go Dave Ronnie's way, he's got Tony Brown with

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Speaker 3: him and then they are a real thing.

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Speaker 9: Well yeah, I think so. I mean, he indicated as

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Speaker 9: much when he sort of publicly spoke for the first

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Speaker 9: time that he wasn't giving up on ever being the

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Speaker 9: All Blacks coach, and I think that says a lot.

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Speaker 9: I mean, and you know, he evidenced what's happened with

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Speaker 9: Scott Robertson as you know, you just never know what's

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Speaker 9: going to happen, and I think that's that's true. If

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Speaker 9: he can you know, he stays in the Highlander's job

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Speaker 9: and then of course, you know the Tony Brown factor,

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Speaker 9: and I think, you know, to add to Elliott's point

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Speaker 9: about Dave Rennie's international experience, I do wonder how much

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Speaker 9: not having Tony Brown available as part of his team

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Speaker 9: cost Jamie Joseph as well. I always felt that that

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Speaker 9: was a fact that news on Rugby were really going

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Speaker 9: to look at it. Win. Jamie Joseph lost or didn't

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Speaker 9: get to Tony Brown to come back, but that kind

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Speaker 9: of really hurt his chances. But yeah, who knows what happens.

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Speaker 9: You know, the success certainly isn't guaranteed to Dave Renni.

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Speaker 9: The All Blacks don't perform at the World Cup like

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Speaker 9: they're supposed to, and Jamie Joseph is still there, then

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Speaker 9: you know, a third it might be third time lucky

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Speaker 9: for him and picking up that job he's always wanted.

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Speaker 3: Fair Enough, Elliott is horse racing a thing now for people,

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Speaker 3: so taking on I don't.

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Speaker 17: I don't know that it is. Look, I've got a

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Speaker 17: lot of friends that follow horse racing and watch it regularly,

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Speaker 17: but it feels like it's it's more the event, it's

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Speaker 17: the day out and tomorrow is going to be huge

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Speaker 17: obviously at ad Alurslie and those big events are well

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Speaker 17: put on by both will coxman team. But I'm not

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Speaker 17: sure it's browing horse racing fans. I don't know that

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Speaker 17: people follow the big horses necessarily. They love a dress up,

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Speaker 17: they love putting the suit and dresses, frocks on, whatever

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Speaker 17: it might be, having a weed flutter. But I'm not

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Speaker 17: sure that the sport of horse racing is necessarily growing

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Speaker 17: at a rate. I just think that the events are

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Speaker 17: so well put on. They're a fun day, you know,

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Speaker 17: as I say, you get glad rags on, everyone has

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Speaker 17: an absolute ball and you win some money, you lose

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Speaker 17: a lot of money, whatever it might be, and everyone

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Speaker 17: has a drink and you go home happy. So I

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Speaker 17: think that's.

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Speaker 9: More the thing.

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Speaker 17: They do very well putting those events on. But I'm

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Speaker 17: not sure a sport it's growing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to figure it out. Play do

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Speaker 3: you reckon horse racing takes off, because obviously it's related

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Speaker 3: to the gambling. Does it take off when the economy

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Speaker 3: is doing well in your flush or when you're poor

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Speaker 3: and you're trying to make some money when you haven't.

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Speaker 9: Got any well, they would kind of go against the

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Speaker 9: current tream and given how the economy is at the moment,

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Speaker 9: wouldn't it there something like this is going. But I

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Speaker 9: tend to agree with Elliott. I just think, you know,

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Speaker 9: people the horse racing industry are the people in that

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Speaker 9: industry are very passionate and I too know people that

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Speaker 9: are interested and in that industry. But I think it's

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Speaker 9: you know, it's more niche for them as opposed to

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Speaker 9: the real nuts and bolts of the horse racing as such,

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Speaker 9: where these big events that you know, you think about,

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Speaker 9: you know, the Melbourne Cup, across the Ditch, the New

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Speaker 9: Zealand Cup day of course down in christ which is

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Speaker 9: always a hugely well tended and well enjoyed event, and

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Speaker 9: I think this kind of fits in the same category.

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Speaker 9: They've clearly thrown a lot of money at this in

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Speaker 9: terms of making it a spectacle for prize money, and

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Speaker 9: they're going to put on an amazing day at others

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Speaker 9: leap of punters to go along and have a great time.

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Speaker 9: But it is it is to me for people outside

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Speaker 9: of the industry any just to just to you know,

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Speaker 9: you pick one or two a year and you go

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01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 9: along and you get through stuff, and you you know,

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Speaker 9: you have a good old good old time.

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Speaker 3: And then are you still doing this, Clay, No.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, well well not not not that often anyway,

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 9: you know, but I think I think a lot of

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 9: people just you know, get that kind of maybe it

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Speaker 9: is something that you know, they save a bit of

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Speaker 9: save a couple hundred dollars and go along and they

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 9: know they're going to make some or.

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Speaker 3: Lose it all.

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Speaker 9: What will be will be?

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Speaker 3: Guys, good to chat to you. Thank you very much appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Clay Wilson and Elliott Smith. Our sport huddle this evening

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Speaker 3: eight away from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper see Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: on my Art Radio powered by News Talk z' be.

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Speaker 3: Heather, can we cancel the emergency Huddle? Luxe and just

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Speaker 3: answered the yes, No, we can, we can, we can.

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Speaker 3: The emergency huddle was eclipsed by Luckson's emergency appearance, so

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Speaker 3: that the emergency huddle is absolutely been canceled. Actually, but

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Speaker 3: on that subject, possibly my favorite contribution to the national

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Speaker 3: poll disaster story was Winston, who just gave a straight

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Speaker 3: assessment of how bad it actually is.

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Speaker 11: Those of us are not of the National Party on

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 11: this manner, on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Of it's not good. No, And then he piped up

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Speaker 3: with who he thought was doing quite well in the

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Speaker 3: National Party ministerial lined up lineup.

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Speaker 7: I think that Jessica Stanford has done a good job.

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Speaker 1: I would you say so?

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Speaker 7: Otherwise she's got back to the fundamentals and the basics.

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Speaker 3: If you're wondering who Jessica Stanford, maybe it's possibly Erica

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Speaker 3: her alter ego.

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Speaker 24: They both ended Eka, don't they.

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Speaker 3: So enough, that's the smoking gun's close enough and the

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Speaker 3: gender was correct, so that counts for a lot. These

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Speaker 3: are the numbers that I was going to give you.

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Speaker 3: This is where Iran has something of an upper hand

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Speaker 3: where it comes to, you know, the munitions and stuff.

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Speaker 3: They are, as I told you earlier, doing heaps damage

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Speaker 3: with the drones, the Shahad drone. This thing costs them

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Speaker 3: every time they launched one of those little drones and

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Speaker 3: it blows something up. It's only about thirty three thousand

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: New Zealand dollars, which is in terms of what is

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01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: being spent minuscule. Every time the Brits, for example, fire

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Speaker 3: and missile it costs them about four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, So four hundred and fifty thousand dollars is

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Speaker 3: what is that? It's like twelve thirteen, fourteen times what

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Speaker 3: these guys in Iran a spending. I'm not very good

1450
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: with maths, so I one hundred percent got that wrong,

1451
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: but you get the gist of it right. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot more than what the Iranians are spending on what

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Speaker 3: they're firing. Just really quickly. On Andrew Little, I don't

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Speaker 3: know about you, but the more I see of the sky,

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Speaker 3: the more impressed I am. And now that he's the

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Speaker 3: mayor of Wellington City Council, he's taking the scalpel to

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Speaker 3: the spending because their rates increase was going to be

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Speaker 3: about twelve point seven percent this year, and so he

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01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: convened a group after his election and said, you've got

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Speaker 3: to find ways to cut the spending. They put their

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Speaker 3: recommendations out today. It includes cutting the council's climate budget

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Speaker 3: by one point sixty five million dollars, reducing its consultant

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Speaker 3: budget by six hundred thousand dollars and selling some of

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Speaker 3: the cars to save two million dollars. There's some other stuff,

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Speaker 3: bringing in traffic management and house putting up fees for

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Speaker 3: US best doss disposal and so on. But if they

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Speaker 3: adopt all of those recommendations, the rates increase will go

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Speaker 3: from twelve point seven percent down to seven point four

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Speaker 3: percent in the upcoming year, and I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of people will be happy to see a reduction that big.

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Speaker 3: Jody O'donald TVNZ's chief chief executive with us next on

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Speaker 3: the reports and the Benedict Collins story, News talksb.

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Speaker 2: Quere Business who meets inside the Business Hour with header

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Speaker 2: duplicy Allen and Mas Insurance and investments, Your futures in

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Speaker 2: good Hands, US talks.

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Speaker 3: B even in coming up in the next hour, Barry

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Speaker 3: Soper on whether the Prime Minister talking to us an

1478
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 3: hour ago has done what's needed to shut this down.

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Speaker 3: Peter Lewis on the economic impact of the Iran war

1480
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Speaker 3: and that's around the world, and then Gavin gray Is

1481
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Speaker 3: with US out of the UK seven past six. So

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Speaker 3: a decent half year result for TV and Z. It's

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Speaker 3: announced a two point four million dollar net after tax profit,

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Speaker 3: but warned the full year will be a loss because

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Speaker 3: of a big investment in the online platform. It follows

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Speaker 3: other media companies nzed ME and sky TV also hosting

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Speaker 3: positive results of the TV as chief executive is Jody

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Speaker 3: o'donald Hi, Jodi Hi, Heather. So, revenue was down twelve

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Speaker 3: percent on last year, which is reasonably significant. What's happened?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, Well, look, I think it's pretty obvious that the

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Speaker 25: economy has been really challenged, but not just that, particularly

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Speaker 25: in the broadcasting space, we've got the global tech titans

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Speaker 25: that are still continuing to take more.

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Speaker 3: And more of our AD revenue.

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Speaker 25: So what I think is most important is that, like

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Speaker 25: all households sweeping really disciplined, we've made sure that our

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Speaker 25: costs have reduced by that amount so that we're also.

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Speaker 3: Able to deliver a net profit today. Do you see

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Speaker 3: it bouncing back up? Or is this just a for

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Speaker 3: everything it just keeps on trending down AD revenue.

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Speaker 25: I actually do see it bouncing back up, and what

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Speaker 25: I mean by that is we're starting to see some

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Speaker 25: results come through for January and February which are much

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Speaker 25: stronger than what we had expended. And ironically, there's been

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Speaker 25: that real return to TV as well as continuing to

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Speaker 25: deliver our revenue growth.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean there's been a return to TV?

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Speaker 25: Our return to TV for marketers that are really interested

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Speaker 25: in supporting campaigns back on TV again, and I think

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Speaker 25: with FEFE, well, I think with a FIFA World Cup

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Speaker 25: in Joan, we've sold out all of a packages and

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Speaker 25: I think lots of the brands are starting to think

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Speaker 25: about what their campaigns will be as they build up

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Speaker 25: to fever.

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Speaker 3: Is it TV in general or is it the big events?

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Speaker 25: Well, look, the big events is what drives people to

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Speaker 25: obviously watch television and consume content. But you know, it's

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Speaker 25: also the fact we've had huge news stories and weather

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Speaker 25: events this year, and that does just drive people to

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Speaker 25: consume more media.

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Speaker 3: You've obviously got your tempering expectations for the full year report,

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Speaker 3: which is going to be a loss because you're putting

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Speaker 3: heaps of money into the online platform. Does this mean

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Speaker 3: that you are going to do another round of cuts

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Speaker 3: of programs and stuff.

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Speaker 25: No, this is a planned decline that we will see

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Speaker 25: at the full year, So, like I said, we had

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Speaker 25: planned for it, so it's not a surprise, and we're

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Speaker 25: on track to spend our investment. In fact, we'll be

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Speaker 25: spending less than what we thought we had, so from

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Speaker 25: our stability of people perspective, we don't see any changes

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Speaker 25: in that space.

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Speaker 3: How much money are you putting into the online platform.

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Speaker 25: We're not sharing that at the stage. It is commercially sensitive,

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Speaker 25: but it is a once in a lifetime opportunity that

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Speaker 25: we have saved for over the last couple of years

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Speaker 25: to ensure that we can sleep forward as data driven,

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Speaker 25: digital first business that's really sustainable for all Newsalanders. How

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 25: are you going for some of that Warner Brothers content

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 25: that Sky's let go of. Look, I think it's a

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Speaker 25: really interesting time right now. There's lots of partnership opportunities

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Speaker 25: out there, and when we launch our new TVNZ Plus platform,

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 25: which is next month, then what that does is it

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Speaker 25: allows us to partner better with other content providers, So

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Speaker 25: we're always looking at content. It certainly is an opportunity

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Speaker 25: for us because we're interested in co exclusive content as well.

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Speaker 25: So we often have content on our platform that also

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Speaker 25: is housed on other platforms, and we just want to

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Speaker 25: make it as easy for New Zealanders to watch the

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Speaker 25: shows they love.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen, what made you get involved in the Benedict

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Speaker 3: Colins story.

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Speaker 25: Look, I'm c I tvn Z, but also i'm editor

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Speaker 25: in chief, so my role is to maintain editor or

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Speaker 25: standards and from time to time I will go and

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Speaker 25: talk to newsleaders about content that plays out if I

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 25: think there is something that they need to review from

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Speaker 25: a fact and accuracy or a balanced perspective, and in

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Speaker 25: this case, I felt like there was, so I.

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Speaker 3: Did go to what was your problem with the story?

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Speaker 25: When I looked at the story, whilst it was of

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Speaker 25: national interest and it was correct in all facts, it

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Speaker 25: did lack some balance in the fact that there was

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Speaker 25: other information that wasn't included in that. So when I saw,

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Speaker 25: like the crime stats that had come out that day,

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Speaker 25: like the thing that everyone else was reporting on, so

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Speaker 25: I think it's important that I raised that from an

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Speaker 25: editorial standards perspective. And look, the news team had already

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Speaker 25: identified it, they were reviewing it. But that is where

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Speaker 25: my independence is, and the newsroom made the decision to

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Speaker 25: obviously broadcast the second story.

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Speaker 3: Is this a Benedict with Is this a Benedict with

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Speaker 3: bias problem or is this a reflection of what's going

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Speaker 3: on in your newsroom and the bias in there.

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Speaker 25: There is no bias in our newsroom, to be clear.

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Speaker 25: So not only do we run and your reports, but

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Speaker 25: we're regularly reviewing all of our news. We get a

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Speaker 25: lot of complaints from things about what our presenters were

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Speaker 25: right down to very very small, minor things. So it's

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Speaker 25: an ongoing review for us, and we hold.

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Speaker 3: Ourselves to a really high stand So do you really

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Speaker 3: believe there's no bias in your newsroom at all?

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Speaker 25: I do believe that we have very high standards around

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Speaker 25: what we do, and you know we need to make

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Speaker 25: sure that we keep to those standards.

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Speaker 3: Look, do you not even think that there is bias

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Speaker 3: in the story selection? Like there will be entire stories

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Speaker 3: that run through the news gamut in this country that

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Speaker 3: one News dot co dot m Z and the newsroom

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Speaker 3: doesn't even touch. Isn't that a form of bias.

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Speaker 25: We've got a lot of platforms that we can broadcast

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Speaker 25: our news stories on. So it might not be in

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Speaker 25: six pm, but I can guarantee you it'll be on

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Speaker 25: one News dot Co or it'll be a clip on

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Speaker 25: our news website on TVNZ plus. So the stories are

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Speaker 25: in all of our ecosystems. They might not necessarily be

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Speaker 25: in six pm, but they might be in another part

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Speaker 25: of the news day.

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Speaker 3: How involved are you prepared to get in this if

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Speaker 3: it starts to get like if it starts if you

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Speaker 3: guys start to come under real pressure on bias. I'm

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Speaker 3: just assuming are you prepared to get really, you know,

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Speaker 3: like involved.

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Speaker 25: Well, just to be clear, the newsroom has editorial independence

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 25: that's enshrined in the TVs IT Act. So my role

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 25: is to maintain standards. So as in we're I think

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Speaker 25: I need to step in.

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Speaker 3: I will. How much is this on your radar as

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Speaker 3: news bosses? Are you watching out for this in particular

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Speaker 3: at the moment?

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Speaker 25: It has been on my radar at least for the

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Speaker 25: last twenty four months. Well, firstly, it's been something that

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Speaker 25: globally news and trust in news has been really challenged,

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Speaker 25: So not just in New Zealand, but across the world

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Speaker 25: with a geopolitical environment that's only heating up, and I'm

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Speaker 25: well aware it is an election there this year, so

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Speaker 25: there will be more opportunities for us to make sure

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Speaker 25: that we hold ourselves to a really high standard.

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Speaker 3: I can't let the opportunity go by without saying Happy

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Speaker 3: birthday to Country Calendar. Happy birthday, Country, Are you doing

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: anything special for Country Calendar? Look? Do you know what?

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Speaker 25: There is some amazing content that we've dug out from

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Speaker 25: the archive, and so all of our viewers will be

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Speaker 25: able to watch that over the coming weeks. But you know,

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Speaker 25: it's sixty years old and it is still the second

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Speaker 25: most watch program, which I just think is remarkable and

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Speaker 25: New Zealanders continue to love to watch.

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Speaker 3: Up True, Jody, thank you so much. As always, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for coming in as well. It's Jody

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Speaker 3: o'donald TV and z's chief executive and it's thirteen past six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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1633
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Speaker 2: numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen on

1634
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Speaker 2: the Business Hour with mass Insurance and investments, Your futures

1635
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Speaker 3: Right, I'm going to get you some of the Texas

1637
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Speaker 3: coming through right now on TV and Z News's Bias First.

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Speaker 3: It's sixteen pass six and Barry Soper, our senior political correspondent,

1639
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: obviously raps the political week that was at this time

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Speaker 3: during the week. Welcome back, Barry.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: Heather.

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Speaker 3: I think that he is safer because he front footed

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Speaker 3: it today. What do you think you're talking about, Chris Luxon?

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Speaker 3: He is there anything else to talk about in politics.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, look, I think he did well coming on

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Speaker 10: your program, and I found the interview really interesting. You

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Speaker 10: didn't lay off, you laid into him a bit. But

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Speaker 10: what he did I think well, and I haven't heard

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Speaker 10: him talk like this for some He explained himself so articulately,

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Speaker 10: very clear to the point, and certainly talked about polls.

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Speaker 10: And I found his take on opinion polls and I've

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Speaker 10: heard them many times from politicians over the years, and

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Speaker 10: the validity of polls. I thought his take on it

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Speaker 10: was quite well. And I think even the tone of

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Speaker 10: his voice would suggest to me there's no pressure on

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Speaker 10: him to bugger off at the stage, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I don't think there will be. It's been my feeling

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Speaker 10: all along. I mean this man that I've never seen

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Speaker 10: a person come into politics into the prime Minister's chair

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Speaker 10: in such a short time. If he was doing an apprenticeship,

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Speaker 10: he'd just be a journeyman. Now five years he's been

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Speaker 10: in the place, and you know, to be able to

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Speaker 10: articulate the way he does, I think he does pretty well.

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Speaker 10: A lot of people say he's too verbose over talks.

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Speaker 10: My problem with him is he aren't too many questions

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Speaker 10: that many politicians will tell the journalists to bugger off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So he has got to though, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a long eight months to the election unless the

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Speaker 3: polls improve, which means and I know it's you know,

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Speaker 3: you can't be sure the polls will improve. And so

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Speaker 3: what he's got to do is he has got to

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Speaker 3: ask for the next eight months his own MPs and

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Speaker 3: National Party voters and the media to believe that the

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Speaker 3: polls are wrong. Is that going to work?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, we're assuming that the polls are going

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Speaker 10: to be exactly the same between now and the election.

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Speaker 10: I mean the National Party must have they must have

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Speaker 10: I don't know, been shocked beyond belief when Donald Trump

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Speaker 10: invaded and Netanyahu invaded Iran, because you know, the invasion

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Speaker 10: in the Middle East effects New Zealand. It affects us

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Speaker 10: to the extent of oil. So will be paying more

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Speaker 10: at the petrol pump. What are people blame when they

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Speaker 10: pay more at the petrol pump? They blame the government.

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Speaker 10: But I would just hope that the New Zealand public

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Speaker 10: look beyond that and say that here was an economy

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Speaker 10: and it's teetering now on turning the corner. There are

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Speaker 10: a lot of green shoots. If you look at tourism

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Speaker 10: in particular, wine sales abroad, exports are excellent. At the moment,

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Speaker 10: you know, the country is looking better and it's again

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Speaker 10: getting a mood going.

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Speaker 23: Now.

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Speaker 10: If Chris Luxen can be himself like he was earlier

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Speaker 10: or tonight, if he can be himself, then I think

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Speaker 10: the public may see another side of christ.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you think can we put this one down

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Speaker 3: to the media getting way too excited?

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Speaker 10: Oh? Totally.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: I think the fact that the Prime Minister was out

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01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 10: of contact after this pole, well, when this pole came out,

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 10: he is at the Golden Chairs and the wire rapp

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 10: who is out in his own Botany electorate, and it's

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01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 10: fair for him to say, well, he wasn't aware.

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Speaker 3: Why this is not the media getting getting too excited. Yeah, sure,

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01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: because I think this is being driven by some mischief

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01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: making that's going on. But also there are people in

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: the National Party who are taking calls from media and

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Speaker 3: making this worse.

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Speaker 10: Well, I've talked to a number in the National Party

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Speaker 10: as well, and the ones that I've talked to, and

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Speaker 10: they're very senior in the National Party, have been one

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 10: hundred percent behind Chris Luxen. So they're not getting panicked,

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 10: they're not getting frightened by this. I guess, like you've

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Speaker 10: pointed out, there are twelve people that could lose their

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Speaker 10: job if this poll is translated into the election night numbers.

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Speaker 10: I don't think for the life of me it will be.

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Speaker 10: And even if there is, certainly that those people would

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Speaker 10: lose their seats, Like you said, Nikola Willis, Chris Bishop

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Speaker 10: is he in.

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop is in a seat, in an electorate seat.

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Speaker 3: But it's hut to remember it's exactly it's a swing seat.

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 10: Well that's a big problem.

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Speaker 3: So he could be gone, Nichola could be gone. Paul Goldsmith, Gigigon.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the backbone of the National Party at the moment.

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Speaker 10: But look, I think they know, and they are relatively

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Speaker 10: skilled politicians, they'll know that on one pole does not

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Speaker 10: an election.

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Speaker 3: Make Yeah, Barry, thank you very much, as always, Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: our senior political correspondent, rapping the political week. That was

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Speaker 3: just really quickly. I told you about the Iranian women's

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Speaker 3: football team playing in the World Cup over in Australia

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Speaker 3: at the moment. They sang their national anthem last night,

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Speaker 3: which is not what they did on Monday, and it

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Speaker 3: would appear that the reason that they did it on Monday,

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Speaker 3: they were looking very happy about the attacks, standing there

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Speaker 3: smiling all of a sudden silently, now they're singing why

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Speaker 3: because Iranian State Television labeled them dishonorable, accused them of betrayal,

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 3: and then also called for them to be dealt with

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Speaker 3: more severely. Get you those texts on bias next six

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Speaker 3: to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Two, whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, all

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Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with head the DUP, SILA and MAS.

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Speaker 1: Insurance and Investments, Your futures in good hands, News.

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01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: Dog ZV here that everyone has a bias TV and

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: zaid as well as how they minimize it. That needs

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Speaker 3: to happen. TV ins at are being naive if they

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: think that the bias doesn't affect them. Hither. TV one

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Speaker 3: is absolutely biased towards labor in the Greens. Hither, thank

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Speaker 3: God for giving me such a good laugh. TV and

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Speaker 3: Z not biased. That's classic here to tell the CEO

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: she's dreaming, TV ands it is biased. Hither. If Bennett

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 3: Collins is not biased, then I'm mother Teresa, So please

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01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 3: contact me. Should you require the odd miracle. Now why look,

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Speaker 3: I disagree with Jody and I like Jody a lot,

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: but I disagree with her. I think that there is

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Speaker 3: a bias. But why she can say that there isn't

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Speaker 3: a bias with such conviction is that they've had a

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Speaker 3: review done and the review has found that there's no bias.

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Speaker 3: So they had a guy who is a former Australian

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Speaker 3: news executive who used to work His name is Alan Sunderland,

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Speaker 3: used to work at ABC, SBS so on. They had

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Speaker 3: him come in and watch one news for a week

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 3: and then then tell them what's going wrong. He only

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01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: found minor issues. He identified two stories where he considered

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Speaker 3: that TV and Z could have explored a wider diversity

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Speaker 3: of views. Did Toode one story where he would have

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Speaker 3: liked to have seen TV ns it's coverage examine the

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Speaker 3: impact of the issue on different communities within New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: He identified that there were one or two stories across

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Speaker 3: the course of the week which he described as underdone

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Speaker 3: in the circumstances, three stories where he considered there could

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Speaker 3: have been deeper coverage, and then he spoke about the

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Speaker 3: role of presenters and ensuring a partiality and clear distinction

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Speaker 3: between fact and opinion. That's fine, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: he knows what he's talking about and he's done a

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Speaker 3: good job. But I want to know whether he looked

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Speaker 3: at what TV in Z was covering and what they

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Speaker 3: were not covering, because I think that that is turning

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Speaker 3: into one of the bigger problems in the media, where

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Speaker 3: you have media going no, we're not going to cover

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Speaker 3: Do you remember do you remember a few weeks ago

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Speaker 3: there was the story that came out about how there

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Speaker 3: were members of the public service who got special cultural

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Speaker 3: leave if they were a certain ethnicity, and nobody else

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Speaker 3: was allowed to have this indefinite leave. That's a story

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Speaker 3: basically nobody covered. You don't cover that story that spias

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Speaker 3: so as much as what is on the screen is important,

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Speaker 3: what is not on the screenism And I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if he looked that deeply. Six twenty six.

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Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she did it again. She's had a run in

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Speaker 3: with the law again. She was arrested as Brittany by

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Speaker 3: the way, She was arrested overnight on suspicion of driving

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Speaker 3: while intoxicated. The cops didn't take her to jail. They

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Speaker 3: took it to hospital to have her blood tested for substances.

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Speaker 3: It's been a rough few years for her. She's only

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Speaker 3: just got out of the conservativeship, which saw her lose

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Speaker 3: control of her finances and day to day's schedule for

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Speaker 3: fourteen years. And just because she's no longer being controlled,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't mean she's been doing that well. Fans have

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01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: been keeping a close eye on her for some weird

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Speaker 3: posts on Instagram, like filming herself dancing with knives and

1804
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Speaker 3: admitting to almost burning her house down. So you know, TMZ,

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01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: the vultures that they are have already up dug up

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Speaker 3: the dispatch audio black.

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Speaker 15: Fans theoretic breaking, serving and driving with no fairly.

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Speaker 16: Before I got on.

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Speaker 22: Then there's Donakooner my words telling a one from Marine Kilrod.

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Speaker 3: I like, I don't know about you. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: a lot out of that other than Brittany was in

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: trouble anyway. They've also reported that there was an unknown

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Speaker 3: substance found in her car. She was kept at the

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Speaker 3: hospital overnight, released the next morning. She's going to appear

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Speaker 3: in court on the fourth of May May the fourth.

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Speaker 3: May the fourth be with her when we should know

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Speaker 3: some more details, but obviously Britney has been here before

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Speaker 3: and it is exactly what led to her being put

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Speaker 3: under and what actually led to her being under the

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Speaker 3: Conservative ship. So while it's juicy, obviously we do wish

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Speaker 3: her well in her recovery. But an important thing to

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Speaker 3: know is even if you're Britney Spears, you can't get

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Speaker 3: away with dumb stuff like this, can you. There's a

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Speaker 3: life lesson. Peter Lewis is going to be this out

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Speaker 3: of Hong Kong next and talk us through the global

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Speaker 3: fallout economically of what's going on in Iran. News talks

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Speaker 3: that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to big corporates, The Business Hour with

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen and Mas Insurance and investments, Your futures

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Speaker 2: in good.

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Speaker 1: Hands news talks that'd be.

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Speaker 18: That is coming.

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Speaker 3: Please don't good party like this business with the MP's

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Speaker 3: partner in the UK spying for China allegedly has got

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Speaker 3: even worse for the MP. The MP has now resigned

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Speaker 3: the labor whip one and investigation internally is carried out.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent, will be with us in

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Speaker 3: ten minutes time on that also. Would you question for

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Speaker 3: you which if somebody said to you, By the way,

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Speaker 3: the answer my answers are hard no on this. But

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Speaker 3: if somebody said to you, would you release release your

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Speaker 3: AI logs so I can see what you've been up

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: to on chat GPT, would you? No, I'm not releasing

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Speaker 3: it because then you're going to know how Banalma questions are. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Eric A. Stanford did, So we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: that in a minute. Stand by twenty three away from

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Speaker 3: seven Now Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent is with us. Hello, Peter,

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Speaker 3: Hell of their heather. How the market's looking after the

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Speaker 3: around conflict is widened?

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Speaker 26: Well today a little bit calmer, But it's been a

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Speaker 26: very very rocky week for Asian markets in particular. In fact,

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Speaker 26: maybe the thing that's a little bit surprising for investors

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Speaker 26: is that its markets in Asia that have really taken

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Speaker 26: it on the chin, far worse than what we've seen,

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Speaker 26: for example in the US. The big market that suffered

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Speaker 26: the most is South Korea. Stocks in South Korea crashed

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Speaker 26: twelve percent in just one day earlier this week and

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Speaker 26: then rebounded nine percent the next day, but it left

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Speaker 26: them down about on the week about eighteen percent or so.

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Speaker 26: Now to be fair, South Korea has had a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 26: Its stock market is up was up almost fifty percent

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Speaker 26: up until the weekend, because it's the market is full

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Speaker 26: of these AI type companies, semiconductor companies like Samsung Electronics

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Speaker 26: and sk Heinix. But the worry for markets out here

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Speaker 26: in Asia is just how much the economies are dependent

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Speaker 26: upon oil and other forms of energy transporting through either Iran,

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Speaker 26: the Straits of Hormuz, or the Golf in general. And

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Speaker 26: if you look at the markets that were worst hit,

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Speaker 26: it's no coincidence that it correlates with those markets that

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Speaker 26: have the biggest dependency. So for example, South Korea about

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Speaker 26: seventy two percent of its energy needs come through the

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Speaker 26: Middle Eastern area. For Japan it's over ninety percent. That

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Speaker 26: was another market that was hit hard this week. The

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Speaker 26: biggest faller in Southeast Asia was Thailand. Its stock market

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Speaker 26: dropped about six percent in just one day, and Thailand

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Speaker 26: has about seventy percent of its energy needs coming through

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Speaker 26: the Middle East. China as well also quite dependent on

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Speaker 26: the Middle East, although it does have large amounts of stockpiles.

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Speaker 26: So the real problem fors in the region here is

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Speaker 26: they just have no idea how long this is going

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Speaker 26: to continue for. And I think at the beginning of

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Speaker 26: the week, maybe the hope was this will be a short,

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Speaker 26: sharp shock that will be over quite quickly. It would

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Speaker 26: drive up oil prices, but that would be temporary and

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Speaker 26: everything will come back to normal fairly soon. As the

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Speaker 26: week has proceeded, it's becoming more and more clear that

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Speaker 26: that isn't the case. There are worries that really the

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Speaker 26: US Donald Trump just doesn't have an endgame at the moment,

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Speaker 26: and this could go on for many weeks, maybe even

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Speaker 26: many months, and keep oil prices elevated for a long

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Speaker 26: period of time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so what we're expecting from this is just

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Speaker 3: a wave of inflation.

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Speaker 26: That's that's the big fear. Every sort of one percent drop, sorry,

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Speaker 26: every every twenty percent drop in some sorry one percent

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 26: drop in supplies pushes prices up by about four percent.

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Speaker 26: So if this goes on sort of week after week,

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Speaker 26: the big fear is that this is going to drive

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Speaker 26: up inflation globally and also drive down global economic growth,

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Speaker 26: and as a result, will end up in this stagflationary environment,

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Speaker 26: which will make it almost impossible for the central banks

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Speaker 26: like the FED to cut interest rates in the way

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Speaker 26: that Donald Trump hopes, and maybe in the worst case scenario,

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Speaker 26: they will have to raise interest rates to deal with

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Speaker 26: this stagflationary environment. And we've already had warnings about that

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Speaker 26: from some central banks, for example the Reserve Bank of

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Speaker 26: Australia Michelle Bulloch. There, the governor has already warned that

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Speaker 26: the next move is likely to be up in interest rates.

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Speaker 25: Gavin, it's good to talk to you. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 25: And here's hoping none of this comes to pass. But

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Speaker 25: you know, fingers crossed. Peter Lewis, Oh, sorry, called to Gavin.

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Speaker 25: Gavin's the next Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent out.

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Speaker 3: Of Hong Kong, thank you, AND's correctedly, Lord above, we'll

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Speaker 3: put it down to baby brain. Can I put how long?

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Speaker 3: Can I put things down to baby brain? For reckon?

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Speaker 3: At least the first five years of the second baby

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Speaker 3: as well, So I got four years to go. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is what Erica Stanford's been up to. Okay, So

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01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: newsroom wanted to know what four different ministers have been

1920
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Speaker 3: doing on chat GPT and wanted to have the logs released.

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Speaker 3: The only one who agreed to release the logs was

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Speaker 3: Erica Stanford. She says she's only used AI once. Whatever,

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Speaker 3: No one's only used AI once, but whenever, so she

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Speaker 3: said it was to assist with writing a speech she

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Speaker 3: delivered in New York, San Francisco, and LA promoting the

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 3: Active Investor plus visa. She told chat gipt, what do

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Speaker 3: I She didn't want to write notes for yourself. She

1928
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Speaker 3: told chat gpt to write a speech that began with

1929
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Speaker 3: the lyrics to six months in a leaky boat in

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Speaker 3: order to bisplit ends, by the way, in order to

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Speaker 3: show that New Zealand was more accessible than ever ALTI

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Speaker 3: or a rugged individual. How does it go after that?

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Speaker 3: But does that show that we're more accessible than I

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Speaker 3: don't know anyway? Whatever she had an she wrote to

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Speaker 3: chat GPT, I have to give a speech as a

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Speaker 3: Minister of Immigration in New York tomorrow, skipping out an

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Speaker 3: O tom row. It's two potential American investors who might

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Speaker 3: ve interested Capital I in our golden visa, which is

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Speaker 3: called rare active plus visa where they have to invest

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Speaker 3: tenor or capital five million. I want them to capital

1941
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: T leave thinking this is an amazing country. Capital C.

1942
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: It's far away from randomly capitalizing the m the world's

1943
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 3: no apostrophe problems, but still connected and close. I want

1944
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 3: to sounds smart and inspirational. This is why, two reasons,

1945
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: and then she refined it don't see how it shows

1946
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 3: that we're connected anyway. This is the two reasons why

1947
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Speaker 3: if anybody asks you to release your chat gpt logs

1948
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 3: you say no. Number one because you're generally using it

1949
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: in a rush, and you are going to end up

1950
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 3: saying want to sounds smart and inspirational, undoubtedly not making

1951
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 3: you sounds smart and inspirational, and the people are gonna

1952
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: take the mickey out of you, and it's not fair

1953
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: because you were doing it in a rush. Number two,

1954
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 3: because it's it's a tool. Why are we turning chat

1955
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 3: gpt into something weird? It's basically the equivalent nowadays of

1956
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: asking Erica Stamford to release her Google logs? Would you

1957
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Speaker 3: do that?

1958
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Speaker 1: No?

1959
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Speaker 3: So don't you bloody business So putting that one in

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Speaker 3: the bin and we're not never asking for it again.

1961
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Speaker 3: Seventeen away from seven.

1962
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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1963
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance

1964
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: and Investments, Your futures in good hands news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Yeah, the One News is not mentioned Today's

1966
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Speaker 3: Poul Mikey Sherman must be seething. And actually, do you

1967
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Speaker 3: know what I have been. I've been watching the news,

1968
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 3: the One News on silent and I've noticed it because

1969
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: I've been waiting to see if they have covered it.

1970
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 3: They haven't covered it. So if we're talking about bias,

1971
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: then we'd have to say, what is this proof of

1972
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 3: because it's a bad story for National. One News hasn't

1973
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: covered it. So in this case they're not going hard

1974
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 3: or national. They have unfortunately obviously missed the biggest political

1975
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 3: news off the day, but you know that's their decision.

1976
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Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven, Geven Gray UK correspondenters with us

1977
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 3: lo Gevin. Hi there, okay, So what's happening with the

1978
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 3: Brits trying to get out of the Middle East.

1979
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's been some success he overnight our time. The flight,

1980
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 20: the first charted flight by the government to bring back

1981
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 20: Britain stranded in the Middle East, has now arrived amid

1982
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 20: emotional scenes at the airport. It was scheduled to leave

1983
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 20: Oman's capital Muscat the day earlier twenty four hours earlier,

1984
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 20: but there were some technical issues. Now it's interesting the

1985
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 20: government was saying technical issues. Some of the passengers who

1986
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 20: were on board waiting to take off and then told

1987
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 20: couldn't were told it was because the pilot was out

1988
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Speaker 20: of hours, in other words, couldn't carry on working as

1989
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 20: he'd been on a continuous shift for too long. So

1990
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 20: it took off twenty four hours late. A little bit

1991
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 20: embarrassing for the government. We are behind the curve, it

1992
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Speaker 20: would appear, compared to some other European countries on trying

1993
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 20: to get their nationals out of the Middle East. More

1994
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Speaker 20: than one hundred and forty thousand Britains in the region, though,

1995
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 20: have registered for updates from the UK government, in other words,

1996
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 20: registering really to say, look, I'm here and I would

1997
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Speaker 20: be interested to know if other flights are taking off,

1998
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Speaker 20: and it is the government's intention to do some more flights. However,

1999
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Speaker 20: about twelve hours ago, a plane sent by France to

2000
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Speaker 20: Dubai to repatriate its citizens reportedly had to turn back

2001
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 20: because of missile fire. So it is a very unstable

2002
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 20: situation in that region, difficult for the governments to organize,

2003
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 20: but certainly at least dripp now drip drip grip of

2004
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 20: people trying to get back to the UK are now arriving.

2005
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Speaker 3: Kevin, how long is this internal investigation into the labory

2006
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 3: inp read the Chinese spying going to take.

2007
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Speaker 20: Oh, that could take many, many months. So three people

2008
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 20: have been arrested. Police are saying in connection or in

2009
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 20: allegations of spying. Now they were simply saying three men,

2010
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 20: and we're being told that one is the husband of

2011
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 20: an MP, and the other men have both spent time

2012
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Speaker 20: as political advisors, one as a Welsh Government special adviser

2013
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 20: and one as a Labor Press office. Labor is currently

2014
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 20: the party of our government here. All three have been

2015
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 20: bailed to a date in May and inquiries are ongoing.

2016
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Speaker 20: That's why this will hang around for a long time now.

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Speaker 20: In the last few hours, the politician who is married

2018
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Speaker 20: to one of the three, the Member of Parliament Jonie Reid,

2019
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 20: said she's voluntarily suspending herself from the Labor party while

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01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 20: this investigation is carried out. Her husband is a businessman

2021
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Speaker 20: and former Labor advisor, and the MP for East Kilbride

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01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 20: and strath Haven that's in Scotland, said she was not

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01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 20: personally under investigation by police. And had done nothing wrong,

2024
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Speaker 20: but said she would not sit as a Labor MP

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Speaker 20: until the probe is being concluded and therefore will be

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01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 20: an independent member of the House of Commons while the

2027
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 20: whip has been suspended. In other words, the organization for

2028
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 20: the Labor Party about how to vote on certain issues.

2029
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Speaker 20: She said she was in fear of becoming a distraction

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Speaker 20: for the government and also said it was to protect

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 20: her children from intrusion. But an extraordinary claim, an extraordinary

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01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 20: investigation by the police that will, as I said, sometime

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01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 20: take some time to resolve.

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Speaker 5: Hey, how did this.

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Speaker 3: Police sergeant trick people into thinking that they were working?

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Speaker 20: This was an extraordinary story that's just been coming to light.

2037
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 20: She's from Avon and Somerset Police down in the west

2038
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Speaker 20: of England, and she was at home pretending to be

2039
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 20: at working from home as it were, and she rested

2040
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 20: a picture frame to weigh down her laptop keyboard in

2041
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 20: order to give the false impression that she was working

2042
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Speaker 20: from home. She used the trick, it was said on

2043
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 20: a majority of shifts worked in April and May last year,

2044
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 20: so she used the corner of the frame to weigh

2045
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 20: down a full of keys so that her laptop wouldn't

2046
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 20: go into the sleep mode. The investigation showed that the

2047
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 20: data used by the Forces Professional Status Department showed the

2048
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 20: officer's keystrokes were significantly high and much higher, three to

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01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 20: eight times higher than colleagues in a similar role.

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Speaker 3: In other words, it wasn't her.

2051
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 20: Lack of action which got her into trouble in the end,

2052
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 20: it was the fact that actually there were too many

2053
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 20: key strokes for the croll that she was doing, caused

2054
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 20: by that picture frame on her laptop.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's very good. I love that, Thank you very much.

2056
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Kevin Kevin Gray are UK corresponding? Just to go back

2057
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 3: to the TV and ZEN poll thing. To be fair

2058
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: to TV and z in, they have a policy and

2059
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 3: it used to be the case and probably still is

2060
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 3: that they don't cover other people's polls because they've got

2061
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 3: their own poll So any other poll that happens out

2062
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: there the managers to make the news does not appear

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01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 3: on TV and z IN. Now, I probably wouldn't have

2064
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 3: stuck with that policy today. If I was one of

2065
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: the bosses, I might have just gone with You know,

2066
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister is under the speculation about the Prime

2067
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 3: Minister's leadership and run that as a story. But anyway,

2068
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: it is what they've done. It may go some way

2069
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: at least to explain why it wasn't on the news.

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Speaker 10: Just quickly.

2071
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 3: Do you remember we talked a few weeks back with

2072
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 3: DIA Department of Internal Affairs about banning Polymarket and Calshi,

2073
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: the two websites where people are able to go and

2074
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 3: bet on basically anything. One of those websites is refusing

2075
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: to pay out re Commany's death. So people had waged

2076
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 3: about fifty four million US dollars that the Ayatolla would

2077
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: be out before April one this year. Cals She is

2078
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 3: refusing to pay out, justifying it by saying the site

2079
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 3: doesn't allow transactions directly tied to death, but they're happy

2080
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 3: to take the bets apparently.

2081
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 2: Eight away from seven, it's the Heather Top c Allen

2082
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Speaker 2: Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by newstalg ZB.

2083
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: I need to tell you the EU. I don't know.

2084
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 3: I would have probably put the EU if I had

2085
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 3: a choice. If I was the UK. The EU lawmakers

2086
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 3: have decided that they will go ahead and ban meat

2087
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 3: names from plant based food, so there are thirty one

2088
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 3: meat related names not allowed anymore. Including bacon. Like if

2089
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,839
Speaker 3: you've got plant based bacon, if you're trying to do facon,

2090
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 3: you know, facn bacon. Not allowed to call it bacon,

2091
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Bacon's gone, can't pretend it's beef. Can't call it anything chicken,

2092
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 3: no drumstick, no loin, no ribs, no steak, no t bone,

2093
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 3: no wing, thirty one of them. But you are allowed

2094
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 3: to say veggie sausage or veggie burger or something like that.

2095
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 3: So that's a good reason not to be part of it.

2096
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 3: When people start tying themselves up and dumb things like that,

2097
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 3: you don't want to be part of it.

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01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 24: Ants, well, I tell you, and I don't want them

2099
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 24: to do more. But if they've left boneless chicken wings

2100
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 24: as a thing that exists as well, it's very inconsistent

2101
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 24: to suddenly draw a hard line on facon but then

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Speaker 24: also allow you to call a chicken nugget a boneless

2103
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 24: chicken wing, because that is what a boneless chicken wing is.

2104
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 3: But anymore so, are you saying there's a discrepancy here.

2105
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 3: We've got actual chicken.

2106
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 24: Yeah, but now you're pretending, well, well, a boneless chicken

2107
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 24: wing is clearly not a boneless chicken wing. So if

2108
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 24: we're suddenly getting probably are breast Yeah, well exactly. So

2109
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 24: if we're suddenly getting all strict on naming and stuff,

2110
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 24: I mean.

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Speaker 3: We send that to the EU ants. We'll tie them

2112
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 3: up for five weeks.

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Speaker 24: I'll get on the phone upon the line right after this. Yeah,

2114
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 24: welcome to the Jungle by Guns and Roses to play

2115
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 24: us out. Not very good news. They are going to

2116
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 24: be coming back to New Zealand. They will be playing

2117
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 24: one show. It will be at Eden Park in Auckland

2118
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 24: on December seventeenth, at the tail end of their Australian tour.

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01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 24: Current lineup Axel Rose on vocals and keyboards and slashes

2120
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Speaker 24: their two on League guitars, Duff McKagan, the founding Bassis

2121
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 24: Dizzy Reed and Militaries on keys, Richard Fortus on rhythm

2122
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 24: guitar and Isaac Carpenter on drums.

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01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 5: Should be a good show.

2124
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Tend that you're into Guns n' Roses.

2125
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 24: I don't even know if I pronounced you need those

2126
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 24: names correctly.

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Speaker 3: Heather, Yeah, but you just it's just a rock band

2128
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 3: you've heard of.

2129
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 24: It is a rock band I've heard. I know this

2130
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 24: is a song that they sing as well.

2131
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: I know you've heard the song. Probably thank you as

2132
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 3: for at least for joining the rest of us for

2133
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 3: one hot minute and being reasonably excited about Jula Concert

2134
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 3: Club's definitely going for sure, you're going to get loose

2135
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: that night.

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Speaker 27: I reckon see You're on Monday and News to Ziba.

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