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Speaker 1: Your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, finding the

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Speaker 2: Price of Summit as Europe's grand Also our migration numbers

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Speaker 2: The pm on boot counts, retail crime investigations, the crooks

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Speaker 2: and blowing up the public service. Graham Norton back for

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Speaker 2: a catch up after a Catherine Field is in Christ's Central.

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Speaker 2: Rod Liddle joins us from the Mighty uk Hosky. So

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Speaker 2: we're underway for Tuesday morning, seven past six. Can I

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Speaker 2: join a couple of dots here? Firstly, congratulations to the

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Speaker 2: Public Service Commissioner Brian Wrote, who, in his first report,

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Speaker 2: after wandering the corridors of public service them for a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, has come back with the observation it's

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Speaker 2: not fit for purpose. I think I will repeat that

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Speaker 2: it's not fit for purpose. I think most of us

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Speaker 2: probably suspected that, and its further evidence that what the

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Speaker 2: government did last year and trimming numbers was well and

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Speaker 2: truly overdue. Not that losing your job as any fun

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Speaker 2: of course, But the cold hard truth of it is

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Speaker 2: government's especially left Lee, never think about that as they

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Speaker 2: fire up the hiring and bloke the place into sedagnation.

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Speaker 2: What Roach says as there are too many meetings and

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Speaker 2: that's a reason not to make a decision. So let

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Speaker 2: me ask you this, is it possible that part of

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Speaker 2: what the government is copying at the moment i e.

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Speaker 2: Too many announcements, not enough results, lies in part at

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Speaker 2: the feet of the public service. Do the government expect

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Speaker 2: Brian's reporting, it doesn't. Or how about this, Do the

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Speaker 2: public service hate the government and are determined to course hapoc?

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Speaker 2: Is the public service not neutral at all? They like

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Speaker 2: labor because labor hires lots of them, gives them all

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Speaker 2: pay rises, so they can make the right leaners look useless.

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Speaker 2: They can get labour back boost the unions, get more jobs,

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Speaker 2: more money, more morning teas, and it's back to the

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Speaker 2: good old days. This is not to say there aren't

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Speaker 2: excellent people who found everywhere, because there are, of course,

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Speaker 2: but the public service has a different sort of culture.

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Speaker 2: I remember I learned this when I worked for radio

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand many years ago. It's not like any

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Speaker 2: other radio operator I ever worked for. Next step, it's

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Speaker 2: one thing to observe. It's not fit for purpose. What

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Speaker 2: now it feels like a very big ship, and big

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Speaker 2: ships are hard to turn.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to get to Catherine shortly find out

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Speaker 2: what Europe's deciding at their emergency summit while they ponder

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Speaker 3: They have a big, powerful machine, you understand that.

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Speaker 1: And they defeated Hitler, and they defeated Napoleon.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've been fighting a long time, they've.

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Speaker 5: Done it before.

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Speaker 6: But I think you'd like this.

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Speaker 7: I think you would like to stub fight.

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Speaker 2: S game out of Russia, seeing a way back in

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Speaker 2: from the cold. He's putting the knife and.

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Speaker 4: If they're going to wheezl out some cunning ideas about

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Speaker 2: So Germany, they're worried about any of us and all

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Speaker 2: of this, but they've also got this week in what

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Speaker 2: may well be a defining moment in the democracy I've

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Speaker 8: It is a Jewish heritage, so I'm really worried about

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Speaker 9: I don't want to believe that's twenty percent of German

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Speaker 2: And that's why it's worth watching. A couple of things

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Speaker 11: I said that we would get two million extra appointments

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Speaker 2: Finally, a longevity expert says, have a look at your

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Speaker 2: This is doctor David sincleir Is from Harvard Parloured, an

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Speaker 2: expert in genetics. He says, the right to nail growth,

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Speaker 2: that's a very good indicator of how fast you're aging.

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Speaker 2: that you're aging more slowly. It's news of the world

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Speaker 2: and good grooming. In ninety before, we got some growth

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Speaker 2: in Japan. Boy do we ever, Well, it's a third

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Speaker 2: Just give you an insight. We'll go to Castro and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into Europe. Aaron Darmon's back with us after

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Speaker 2: run seven o'clock this morning, But just to give you

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Speaker 2: an insight into what geopolitical upheaval does for some business.

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Speaker 2: Germany's Rent Group overnight they're up fifteen percent, shares Ryan

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Speaker 2: JMI Wealth for Andrew Klaherguru morning, Good morning, Mike. He's

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Speaker 2: run a bit of a rival with this good news.

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Speaker 2: Service sector expansior airy I reckon.

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Speaker 12: It's been unusual to say this too, hasn't it, Because

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Speaker 12: Now, the services sector the long term average is fifty

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Speaker 12: it's not it's not surging, but it's encouraging to see

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Speaker 12: As I said, it's not a broad based surge though.

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Speaker 12: this week. I don't know whether they this will come

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Speaker 12: I think I think so on the annual basis, it's

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Speaker 12: So just looking at the numbers, not permanent long term

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Speaker 12: they're still falling because of course you've got numbers dropping

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Speaker 12: thirty thousand, three hundred and thirty one. But the key here, Mike,

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Speaker 12: That's down thirty two percent, but departures one hundred and

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Speaker 12: twenty nine thousand, up twenty seven percent. So provisionally that

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Speaker 12: Remember it peaked it over one hundred and thirty five thousand.

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Speaker 12: Annual arrivals slowing, annual departures still hitting record high. So

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Speaker 12: there was a bit of speculation Mike that we could

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Speaker 12: see negative migration this year, but if you look at

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Speaker 12: I think we are. I don't think we'll see a

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Speaker 12: negative a negative migration. Larger source of rivals excluding returning

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Speaker 12: key were China, Philippines in their quipments, and tourism is

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Speaker 12: looking more positive. Mic You got that visitor Levy Caman

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Speaker 12: in October doesn't seem to be impacting visit numbers yet.

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Speaker 12: But we're running at fifteen percent of pre COVID numbers,

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Speaker 12: so it's slowly getting better.

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Speaker 12: The US market not trading because it's President's Day. But

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Speaker 12: if I look at the futures markets which are still

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Speaker 12: trading for the US indices, they are in positive territory.

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Speaker 12: So that's good read for our market. This morning, the

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Speaker 12: foot see one hundred eighty seven six seven, it's up

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Speaker 12: thirty five point four percent. The NICKO was up small

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Speaker 12: thirty nine, one hundred and seventy four. Shanghai Compost also

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Speaker 12: lost nineteen points yes day eight five three seven.

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Speaker 12: Pointser point sixty one thirteen thousand and sixty eight, helped

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Speaker 12: by an almost twenty percent surge in the a too

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Speaker 12: milk price. So we can talk about that later on

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Speaker 12: this week when we cover the New Zealand results. Kiwi

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Speaker 12: dollar point five seven three six, so it's getting stronger

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Speaker 12: dollars Brent crewed seventy five dollars and eight cents.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all the economists se fifty bases points tomorrow from

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Speaker 16: We're eight hundred million, a bit over eight hundred million.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's the best thing I've seen in my time.

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Speaker 16: We've got a champion in Minister Jones. He's a champion

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Speaker 2: There's a big gap between eight hundred million and another

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Speaker 2: of half a million tons, They've ordered another half a

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Speaker 2: million tons, and they're going to place in order for

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Speaker 2: another couple one hundred thousand tons just in case. So

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Speaker 2: one point two million tons of coal mainly coming in

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Speaker 2: from Indonesia. Renewable plan going excellently, isn't it. Fourteen away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 8: International correspondence with zed Eye Insurance, peace of mind for

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Speaker 8: New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of it all the center of a

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Speaker 2: changing geopolitical force Field Catherine Field, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. That really does sum it up, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: Does it feel like that it does? It really does.

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Speaker 18: I know that this current Russian invasion of Ukraine started

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Speaker 18: three years ago and it's been you know, we've talked

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Speaker 18: about often enough, it's been on the doorstep for a

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Speaker 18: long time. But I think today we really do get

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Speaker 18: the feeling with what we've got eight heads of governments

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Speaker 18: of European nations, plus the head of NATO, the head

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Speaker 18: of the EU. Here in Paris, talking about how the

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Speaker 18: future road map of European security will pan out without

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Speaker 18: the Americans.

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Speaker 2: Being on their side.

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Speaker 18: So really, Mike, I've seen a lot of my career,

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Speaker 18: but this is the first time I've really thought, gosh,

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Speaker 18: the ground is really changing and no one knows where

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Speaker 18: it's going to go, simply because there are so many

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Speaker 18: confused remarks, opinions, and ideas coming from the Trump administration,

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Speaker 18: not only in Washington, but also what Europeans heard over

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Speaker 18: the weekend about not just America's involvement with securing Europe's security,

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Speaker 18: that commitment to europe security, but also your other things

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Speaker 18: like what's going to happen to Ukraine, what's going to

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Speaker 18: happen with Russia, whether the Russia is going to be

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Speaker 18: allowed back in so many confused messages, and to have

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Speaker 18: so many heads of government get together and say, wow,

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Speaker 18: this is important, We've got to get together and sort

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Speaker 18: something out.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all very well to get together and say wow,

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Speaker 2: what actually are they going to do? This is the

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Speaker 2: big question? And can they do it? Do they have

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Speaker 2: the money to do it?

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Speaker 18: Here's what they're going to try and do. We've heard

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Speaker 18: what just in the last twenty four hours. The UK

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Speaker 18: kes Starmer has said that if there is a ceasefire

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Speaker 18: then the British would be happy to deploy troops.

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Speaker 2: In some manner.

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Speaker 18: We don't know how that would be. Let's think back

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Speaker 18: last year. That was exactly the same idea that French

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Speaker 18: President Emmanuel Macron came up with. He was taught talking

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Speaker 18: about not having French troops actually in Ukraine, but having

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Speaker 18: seen French troops along the borders with Ukraine. That would

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Speaker 18: free up some of their border patrol personnel to be

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Speaker 18: able to go and be on the front line. So

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Speaker 18: we're looking at that.

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Speaker 3: What else could they do.

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Speaker 18: The big thing they've got to do, Mike, is find money.

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Speaker 18: They need to be able to spend and spend big

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Speaker 18: on European security. So what they're going to talk about

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Speaker 18: there is how do they do it. Do they raise

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Speaker 18: the debt ceiling? Do they really antagonize the Americans by

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Speaker 18: upping all the procurement for just European firms. All these

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Speaker 18: are on the table, but certainly the big thing they

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Speaker 18: need is they need to come out and they need

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Speaker 18: to say very clearly, we know we're in a difficult position.

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Speaker 18: We're going for clarity.

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Speaker 17: This is what we need.

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Speaker 18: And the other big point, of course, is these talks

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Speaker 18: that are going to be going on in the Middle

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Speaker 18: East between the Americans and the Russians. They're going to

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Speaker 18: stand there and hopefully within the next couple of hours

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Speaker 18: they will say Ukraine has to be part of those talks,

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Speaker 18: and the EU has to be part of those talks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck with that. John Major on watching

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Speaker 2: him yesterday, America's isolation was creating a power vacuum that

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Speaker 2: would embolden nations like Russia and China, and that there

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Speaker 2: was no doubt Russia would invade elsewhere before long. Are

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Speaker 2: that all the people in the room you just talked

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Speaker 2: about going here? Here to that broad sentiment.

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, there really has been a feeling since that phone

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Speaker 18: call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin last week, there

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Speaker 18: really has been a feeling that the US is moving

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Speaker 18: away from Europe. It's no longer going to regard Europe

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Speaker 18: as its security priority. The focus will shift to China.

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Speaker 18: That will give Russia a chance to actually carry out

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Speaker 18: more of the type or at least threaten to carry

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Speaker 18: out the type of invasions that they've been doing in Ukraine.

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Speaker 18: When you look at what Putin and Trump were talking about.

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Speaker 18: Putin was talking about limiting native forces in Eastern Europe,

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Speaker 18: saying that Ukraine couldn't join NATO. These are all the

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Speaker 18: old talking points, Mike. And it's interesting that Putin is

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Speaker 18: only talking about his view of Eastern Europe, those countries

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Speaker 18: that are alongside Russia, alongside Vilarus, and he wants them

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Speaker 18: to be within the Russian sphere of influence.

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Speaker 2: Right, Hey, listen, I'm out of time, but I'm deeply

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Speaker 2: interested in Germany this weekend. What chance the AfD wins,

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Speaker 2: What chance the AfD wins and conform some sort of government.

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Speaker 18: They will win big according to opinion polls, they will

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Speaker 18: get at least twenty percent of the votes. But again, Mike,

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Speaker 18: it's coalition government, so they won't have enough to possibly

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Speaker 18: it looks unlikely anyway, they won't have enough to be

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Speaker 18: the lead in the coalition. But certainly we're looking at

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Speaker 18: possibly May before they get a coalition agreement before with

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Speaker 18: the parties that will go in, which is a bad

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Speaker 18: time for Germany to be with our government.

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Speaker 2: I reckon talk next week. Appreciate it. Catherine Field. Literally

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Speaker 2: history unfolding before us. It's such an interesting time. The Irish,

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Speaker 2: by the way I'm reading this morning, speaking of Europe,

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Speaker 2: they're goods. Exports to the United States search thirty four percent.

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Speaker 2: Under normal circumstances, that will be fantastic, except when you've

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Speaker 2: got a president who doesn't like that sort of business.

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Speaker 2: Because the flip side imports from the US fell, so

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Speaker 2: that's called a surplus. He doesn't like it, so they

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Speaker 2: can stand by for some terrif action as well. Nine

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities

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Speaker 1: News Togstead be Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong were their own coal? The answer is it's

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Speaker 2: not right for Huntley. Huntley comes from a time where

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Speaker 2: you need the Indonesian style. We use a bit of

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Speaker 2: our own coal. That just doesn't suit it. Mike's taking

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Speaker 2: Trump to get involved, to finally get the EU off

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Speaker 2: their asses. Poulock to be frank, I couldn't agree with

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Speaker 2: you all. Rutter sort of called us out the other

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Speaker 2: day at one percent of GDP, but the number of

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Speaker 2: countries that never promised two percent, they never paid it

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Speaker 2: until Trump last time Trump won came along and said

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Speaker 2: start paying some dough and they finally got them into action. Mike,

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Speaker 2: how refreshing to hear someone actually being op to mystic

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Speaker 2: on your program. Go mister Hooper, love hearing about king salmon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the aquaculture. There's a lot going on this economy. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it's the same stuff and they're all doing the heavy lifting.

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Speaker 2: It's the other stuff. It's the tourism, the productivity that

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Speaker 2: we need to get our act together on five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven, all the ins.

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Speaker 3: And the outs. It's the fizz with business favor. Take

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Speaker 3: your business productivity to the next line, the newest.

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Speaker 2: Part of the problem, like the old coalface, and we're finding, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: even more disengaged workers and more lack of productivity warnings.

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Speaker 2: This is new research this morning from the consultancy firm amped.

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Speaker 2: It found that career growth was apparently high on the

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Speaker 2: agenda for our current workforce, not a lot of companies

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Speaker 2: offering it. Allegedly forty percent of workers so they've got

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Speaker 2: no clarity about their next career step from their employer.

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Speaker 2: Fifty eight percent so it was only somewhat clear. Half

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Speaker 2: so they don't feel supported by their employer to watch

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Speaker 2: reach what the next step is. They're also overwhelmingly rating

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Speaker 2: their organizations poorly on development, lack of tools, lack of

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Speaker 2: framework to grow, lack of coaching, having minimal mentoring potentially lead,

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Speaker 2: they say, to thousands of workers looking for new roles

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Speaker 2: to get that level of growth they want, and it

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Speaker 2: could mean an even bigger migration of talent. Before the

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Speaker 2: lack of job opportunities, these workers were disengaged and that

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Speaker 2: of course brings the business down. Study show a disengaged

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Speaker 2: worker in terms of productivity, only works to the level

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Speaker 2: of eighty two percent of their salary and can reduce

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Speaker 2: the productivity by thirty four percent. Yes, everyone's a mona, right,

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Speaker 2: we need to get back to Europe. Paul wood XBBC.

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Speaker 2: Of course he's having a look at what's going on

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Speaker 2: in France. Literally as we speak, we'll talk with the

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Speaker 2: BBC's Russia correspondent. What do the Russians want out of this?

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Speaker 2: They're in Saudi Arabia with a little Marco. What do

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Speaker 2: they want? What are their red lines? Where are we

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Speaker 2: heading here? Brad Olson's got some numbers around this migration.

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Speaker 2: How bad it is? Is it reached bottom or were

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Speaker 2: still losing them left, right and center? What does it

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Speaker 2: mean for the country? God I wouldn't want to be

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Speaker 2: running the country. Hey, who's running the country, chrisph Lax.

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Speaker 2: And yet that's right, he's in as well, so he's

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Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of stuff to answer. And Graham Norton,

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Speaker 2: old friend of the program, he's coming after raid as well.

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Speaker 2: Up at the News which was next to TheBus talks.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day on

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Speaker 1: my casting breakfast with the range rover bela designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use talks.

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Speaker 2: Dead be seven So Europe on the brink, Jade advance

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Speaker 2: rolls into town, gives them a few home truths. The

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Speaker 2: talks as regards peace and Ukraine appear to possibly involve Europe.

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Speaker 2: Possibly not so the emergency Summitt hillbb A Night, former

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Speaker 2: BBC Foreign correspondent Paul Woodsbeck, whether that's Paul, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. You've seen a lot. Is this history in

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Speaker 2: the making?

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Speaker 5: Well, if history has a lot of panic and scrambling

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Speaker 5: and trying to make yourself relevant, then yes, this is

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Speaker 5: Europe completely alarmed by President Trump telephoning the Russian leader

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Speaker 5: Vladimir Putin, apparently without consulting European allies. And you said

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Speaker 5: in your introduction, will Europe be involved in the talks. Well,

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Speaker 5: apparently they won't, but certainly not as they are getting

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Speaker 5: underway in Saudi Arabia. Now, what's happening in Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 5: is much wider than just a Ukraine piece effort. This

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Speaker 5: is about the US resetting its relations with Russia. But

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Speaker 5: the Europeans are worried that this will have huge implications,

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Speaker 5: not just for Ukraine but for European security. They're trying

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Speaker 5: to make themselves relevant. We'll have to see what they

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Speaker 5: come up with.

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Speaker 2: The JD Van's comments the other day, the fear within,

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Speaker 2: the problems within. Did he have a point?

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Speaker 5: I suppose it depends where you stand on issues of

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Speaker 5: free speech in a reigne of European countries Britain, Germany,

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Speaker 5: And he was making a point about Europe's worries over Ukraine. Well,

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Speaker 5: hang on a minute. He's saying that the enemy is

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Speaker 5: really within and it's your own weakness. So these are

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Speaker 5: the kind of almost trolling comments that President Trump succeeds

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Speaker 5: in making. Very well, it's an attempt to throw the

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Speaker 5: board up in the air and reset the pieces. But

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Speaker 5: certainly doing that, it's very hard to distinguish what is

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Speaker 5: a negotiating tactic on the behalf of the US government

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Speaker 5: and what is a really heartfelt position, but certainly it's

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Speaker 5: having an effect. That's why they're meeting in Paris.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 2: Does this potentially in bolden Europe and NATO to go.

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Speaker 2: We've been caught badly out here. We need for the

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Speaker 2: future to do something more substantive than what we've been doing.

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Speaker 17: Or not.

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Speaker 5: Well. The Polish leaders said that that the countries of Europe,

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Speaker 5: and I suppose that the UK is well, UK's geographically

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Speaker 5: in Europe still but not politically. In Europe they will

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Speaker 5: go up their defense spending. But President Zelenski, for instance,

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Speaker 5: says it would take two hundred thousand troops to police

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Speaker 5: the fifteen hundred mile front line if there was a

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Speaker 5: peace agreement. And by the way, the Ukrainians say they

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Speaker 5: can be no peace agreement without them, and they're not

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Speaker 5: at the table. In Saudi Arabia, the former head of

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Speaker 5: the British Army, Lord Danet, says it would take one

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand. Well, Britain's got a pretty hollow army now

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Speaker 5: of seventy six thousand, and Britain, along with France, they're

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Speaker 5: the most effective armies in Europe. Where are these hundred thousand,

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Speaker 5: two hundred thousand going to come from? I saw one

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Speaker 5: estimate from one analyst saying that three brigades or fifteen

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Speaker 5: thousands all that Europe could come up with. And then

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Speaker 5: if Europe does have these troops, is America going to backstop?

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Speaker 5: That is this essentially NATO membership for Ukraine and all

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Speaker 5: but name. These are all questions which I think show

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Speaker 5: the huge mountain the Europeans have to climb, But at

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Speaker 5: the moment they're just scrambling to become relevant by offering something.

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Speaker 2: Paul, good to have you on the program, as always

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time form a BBC Foreign correspondent, Paul Wood.

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Speaker 2: It's tim minutes past seven. Pas these you know, so

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Speaker 2: called piece talks in Saudi Arabia. It's the US and

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Speaker 2: Russia And at this point that appears about it. So

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Speaker 2: who's there? What comes out of it? Olga Imschina is

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Speaker 2: with the BBC and is well, it's a very good

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Speaker 2: money to you. Is she others or not? Is there anything? No,

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Speaker 2: she's not. We'll get the phone sorted out. Let me

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Speaker 2: come back. It's ten minutes past seven. Find out whether

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Speaker 2: the we'll find out whether the paskiing even begun and

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Speaker 2: who's actually there the Reserve Bank just quickly. That'll be

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Speaker 2: the big talking point for tomorrow. Everybody says. As I

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier on in the program, fifty basis points. No

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Speaker 2: one's arguing about that. But where we go from there

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Speaker 2: is the interesting bit. The ASB have got a couple

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Speaker 2: of twenty five pointers, so fifty and then twenty five

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Speaker 2: and twenty five A and Z say fifty to twenty

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Speaker 2: five and then that's it. They think neutral is about

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Speaker 2: three and a half. Kei we Bank are the most strident.

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Speaker 2: The track forecast of three and a half percent cash

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Speaker 2: rate by the end of the year. The track being

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank that implied seventy five basis points this year,

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Speaker 2: which is fifty points in A twenty five. They're forecasting

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Speaker 2: three percent cash rate to arrive in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: so they Kiwibank have disagreed with the track from its

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Speaker 2: very inception, where it's two percent target inflation rate virtually achieved.

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Speaker 2: We believe the RB needs to take their hand off

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Speaker 2: the handbrake and put policy into neutral. So they thought

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Speaker 2: that from November last year, far too hawkish. So we'll

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Speaker 2: will be something we talk about tomorrow on the program. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's hopefully think that old with Us will go good morning,

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Speaker 2: you with us morning. Yes, I'm here, very good. Indeed, Levrov, Marca, Rubio,

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Speaker 2: who else is there? What's the expectation from Russia?

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Speaker 1: Do we know?

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Speaker 19: Oh, that's the I guess the question which is everyone's

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Speaker 19: mind at the moment. What we see from Labal's public

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Speaker 19: statement he made briefly before boarding the plane to soud

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Speaker 19: Arabia is that he feels quite imboltant, quite pleased with

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Speaker 19: the current position in which Russia is. So he made

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Speaker 19: a few scenic and bold comments, sort of quite provocative,

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Speaker 19: but you know, that's the usual state of affairs for him.

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Speaker 19: So publicly, Russia presents itself as if it has like

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Speaker 19: almost up a hand on those negotiations. But what Warrov

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Speaker 19: is not mentioning is that there are a few issues

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Speaker 19: which are very important to Russia. For example, Ukraine still

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Speaker 19: controls the part of Russian territory in the coast region

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Speaker 19: which he has gained as a part of last year's

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Speaker 19: incursion into Russia, and this is something which borders put

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Speaker 19: in a lot, but which he doesn't like to be

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Speaker 19: talking about so and in order to achieve Putting the objectives.

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Speaker 19: In order to achieve that, Russia still needs to give

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Speaker 19: something in to trade something off and what they will

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Speaker 19: be ready to give and train that, you know, which

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Speaker 19: will show how really these negotiations are developing. So they

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Speaker 19: tried to put on a grave face, but it's not

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Speaker 19: all nice and funny for them.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaping a hitch slightly. But the way I see

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Speaker 2: this unfolding is Russia gets some territory, Ukraine gets some

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Speaker 2: guarantees about future invasions, America gets some rare ersts and

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Speaker 2: some minerals, and that's about it. Is that possible?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's possible, but details a crucial here. You know,

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Speaker 19: what are the security guarantees for Ukraine? What Russia calls

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Speaker 19: security guarantees for itself. We have already heard that Britain

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Speaker 19: is suggesting to put its troops on the ground in

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Speaker 19: Ukraine as a part of a security guarantee. And that's

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Speaker 19: something which can be a nightmare for Putting, because he

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Speaker 19: claims he started this war, this invasion in order to

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Speaker 19: push native forces away. And now he's you know, half stuff.

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Speaker 19: He's a half step away from having native soldiers exactly

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Speaker 19: on the border of the territory he is controlling.

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Speaker 2: In Russia itself, do people want the end of the war?

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Speaker 2: Are they following this closely? Do they see this as

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Speaker 2: the conclusion?

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Speaker 19: Yes, of course people in Russia are following this closely.

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Speaker 19: And it's hard to say what the mood is because

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Speaker 19: Russia is an auster retaliant country and if you speak

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Speaker 19: too much or speak against the government line, you easily

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Speaker 19: end up in prison for seven eight years. But all

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Speaker 19: the posts are showing that the majority of the population

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Speaker 19: are eager for this war to stop on the one hand.

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Speaker 19: On the other hand, well at least ten twenty percent

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Speaker 19: of opulation are quite hawkish. So for them, but you

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Speaker 19: will need to somehow show a nice face, so he

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Speaker 19: will need to sell them this piece deals so not

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Speaker 19: so easy. I mean, Putting doesn't have to worry about elections.

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Speaker 19: Of course it's an also Italian state, but still he'll

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Speaker 19: need to find a way to sell it to the

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Speaker 19: Russian public.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm good to talk to you. Appreciate it very much,

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Speaker 2: olga Ipshina, BBC Russia correspond to fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Chris Lux and Graham not and still the come eighteen

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Speaker 2: past migration numbers. Broadly things are settling down. Still a

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Speaker 2: lot of people leaving there a lot of them thirty

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Speaker 2: eight percent in factor eighteen to thirty year old. So

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Speaker 2: what do we make of it? Inframetrics principal economist Brad olsenback, Well,

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Speaker 2: this morning, mane, good morning as well. Migration numbers. How

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Speaker 2: does this all in? Are we're going to end up

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Speaker 2: exporting people or have we reached the bottom? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 20: Well, it's a been hard to tell at the moment. Certainly,

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Speaker 20: up until recently, the head being fair that we would

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Speaker 20: have more people that we would lose than would come

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Speaker 20: in over a year. The trends were certainly shifting back.

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Speaker 20: If you look back over the twenty twenty three year,

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Speaker 20: we had nearly one hundred and thirty thousand more people

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Speaker 20: moved to New Zealand then left on a long term basis.

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Speaker 20: Come through to the twenty twenty four calendar year and

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Speaker 20: that number was only around twenty seven thousand, So its

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Speaker 20: still positive, but you know, one hundred thousand people different

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Speaker 20: the more recent monthly figures are suggesting that although there's

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Speaker 20: a much lower number of people coming in month by month,

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Speaker 20: it's starting to pick up just a slight touch, which

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Speaker 20: feels a little bit odd given that the jobs market

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Speaker 20: is still pretty weak, the unemployment rates up, it's harder

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Speaker 20: to find work. But I suspect talking to a few

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Speaker 20: businesses that there are some parts of the economy where

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Speaker 20: we need some more skilled workers. And so although we

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Speaker 20: haven't got just you know, this huge info, there does

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Speaker 20: seem to be a little bit more activity happening there

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Speaker 20: where we're trying to sort of fill the gaps.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I worry about, beyond the numbers they may

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Speaker 2: coming from China, the Philippines, et cetera. Are they filling

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Speaker 2: the gaps? And just because it's one out, one in,

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Speaker 2: are we replacing what we've lost.

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Speaker 20: It's a bit tough to make that last assessment. Because

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Speaker 20: we have a pretty good idea of who's coming in

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Speaker 20: and the skills that they bring, we still don't have

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Speaker 20: really any good tracking on the sort of skills that

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Speaker 20: we're losing. There's a lot of anecdote and anecdata, but

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Speaker 20: sort of none of the sort of cold hard facts

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Speaker 20: that would normally rely on I suspect that in general

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Speaker 20: we are probably seeing most of those who are coming

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Speaker 20: in are coming in.

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Speaker 6: To fill the gaps.

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Speaker 20: It's unusual that we'd be sort of at the moment

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Speaker 20: that New Zealand businesses would be struggling with roles across

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Speaker 20: the board, and so generally they won't try and issue

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Speaker 20: a visa for that. But I think there's also a

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Speaker 20: question at the moment around particularly our young people. We

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Speaker 20: know that there's a big flow out over to the

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Speaker 20: likes of Australia and similar and so although we might

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Speaker 20: be seeing the right or sort of similar trends at

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Speaker 20: the moment for where the economy is at in terms

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Speaker 20: of sort of reduced some of those below the surface trends,

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Speaker 20: the fact that we're losing a lot of New Zealanders

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Speaker 20: and also the fact that we've sort of seen such

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Speaker 20: a huge shift around in that foreign migration does make

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Speaker 20: you wonder about sort of where we go in the future.

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Speaker 20: Do we have sort of sustainable population growth or do

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Speaker 20: we just have these sort of massive, you know, huge

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Speaker 20: peaks and troughs in our migration system. And who knows

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Speaker 20: how to plan for that?

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Speaker 2: All right, bra I appreciate the expertise. There's always deportation.

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Speaker 2: There's a tricky old situation. More on the moment seven

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Speaker 2: The minister in charge of making the callers to whether

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Speaker 2: to deport people. And in a way, this is a

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Speaker 2: singular little example of what the Americans deal with millions

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Speaker 2: So does he get deported? And do his parents get

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Speaker 2: deported if you follow the law. The answer seems simple,

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Speaker 2: There are as there always are questions around how you

865
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Speaker 2: can be here as an overstayer for many, many many years. Also,

866
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Speaker 2: I assume these are decent people I mean if they

867
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Speaker 2: were criminals or reprobates, the decisions would be a lot easier.

868
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Speaker 2: Of course, So family who work, contribute to the country

869
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Speaker 2: call it their own. They want to stay. No shortage

870
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Speaker 2: of emotion in the old argument. Now I'm sure part

871
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Speaker 2: of their issue at some point once they technically became

872
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: overstay as they feared getting caught. You know, after I

873
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: don't know, a week, a month, a year, do you

874
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: come clean to your tidy year affairs up? Do you

875
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: plead for leniency, hope for the best, do you try

876
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: your luck? Surely in doing what they did, they must

877
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: have known the game at some point for some reason

878
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: would be up. Or maybe after eight years or nine years,

879
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: or fifteen or twenty one years, maybe they put it

880
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: to one side. Maybe they would never be found out,

881
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: they thought to themselves.

882
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 17: So what to do?

883
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: The section is three seventy eight of the Immigration Act.

884
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: The Minister can apparently do anything he likes. Easy to say,

885
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: go on, let them stay. But you set the precedent,

886
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: don't you. And that's the trouble with powerful jobs and

887
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: big decisions, hardly ever simple. It may well be the

888
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: hardest thing to think ever does unless you get well

889
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: unless he lets them stay. Of course that would be

890
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: easier make you feel good and probably with minimal pushback

891
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: me Mike, I see you're quite positive about the youth

892
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: camp yesterday. TV and Z. On the other hand, yestvs

893
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: had a crack at the Prime Minister post cab yesterday.

894
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: In fact, they're all piled and it's funny to watch

895
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: a press gallery pylon because one starts and then everyone goes,

896
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: oh well on a piece of that action, and Luxem

897
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: becomes increasingly uncomfortable. They made, I thought a not unfair point.

898
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: It is true to say that Karen Shaw in the

899
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: early days were spreaking the good news around the military

900
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: style boot camps, and one had a job and some

901
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: were going into education. The story, if you've missed it,

902
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: there seems to be a claim summer back in the

903
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Speaker 2: justice process. But of course Luxeon's in a difficult position.

904
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: I defend him to the extent of you. You are

905
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Speaker 2: in the justice process. You are innocent until proven guilty,

906
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: and you can't go around bandying names and crimes and

907
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: accusations and fingers and all that sort of stuff. So

908
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: I get that bit. But it does seem that the

909
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: government were happy to talk positive and not so happy

910
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: to talk about the negative. But in the reportage yesterday,

911
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: and this is where the media is so slack, not

912
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Speaker 2: one story I saw mention the report that I mentioned

913
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: on this program yesterday. There is actually a report, an

914
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Speaker 2: official report, and the official report says the scheme actually

915
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Speaker 2: is good. And no one remarkably appeared to mention that.

916
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Speaker 3: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking.

917
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers others can't

918
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Speaker 1: use togs headbs.

919
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Speaker 2: Graham Norton's making the program after eight o'clock this morning,

920
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Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from it. Chuesday Morning primeans to

921
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Speaker 2: Christoph luxeendo joins us, first, good morning to you.

922
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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike.

923
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Speaker 2: How I you today? Very well? Indeed, did you do

924
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: anything for Valentine's Day?

925
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Speaker 13: You know what? I didn't?

926
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Speaker 9: Actually, because every day is Valentine's Day and the luxe

927
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Speaker 9: and household.

928
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Speaker 2: Your wife is sick of hearing. It's a reason for no.

929
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Speaker 9: We sat down, I think we had dinner on our

930
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 9: on our laps, and I think we started watching there

931
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 9: was some Netflix show we started getting into, not the

932
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Speaker 9: Brian Apple side of vinegar that that terrible story about

933
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Speaker 9: social media influences and misleading people.

934
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Speaker 2: I've heard that crap. Brian Johnson, you are into Do

935
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Speaker 2: you think he's mad or not?

936
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Speaker 13: He's intense.

937
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Speaker 9: I mean, I just think you've got to enjoy life

938
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Speaker 9: as well somewhere along the way. But there's something that

939
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 9: he's doing that's at the edge, and that's always interesting

940
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 9: because he's obviously body hacking and trying to find a

941
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 9: way to age negatively age. But he'd be an interesting

942
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 9: guy to talk to if you could even get him

943
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Speaker 9: on your show.

944
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Speaker 2: But I think, well, Sammy's on and you talk to

945
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Speaker 2: Sammy every week, and no one's better at getting people

946
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Speaker 2: on the program.

947
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Speaker 13: He can do it. Sam will do it.

948
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Speaker 2: Either that or will sack him. Brian roach. He appears

949
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Speaker 2: to be very very good at what he does because

950
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Speaker 2: he's worked out the public service isn't up to scratch

951
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: and he's looking at blowing up departments. Is this doge

952
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: in Z style?

953
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, first of all, he's an excellent hire,

954
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Speaker 9: and I've known Brian for a long time. He's going

955
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Speaker 9: to be great at this job. What we really want

956
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 9: is a much more efficient, effective public service. I want

957
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Speaker 9: him focused on a few things. We've got to get

958
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Speaker 9: the right leaders into these big agencies and big departments,

959
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 9: the big organizations, and when you get the right leader

960
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 9: at the top, it makes all the difference through the organization.

961
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Speaker 9: I also want them working hard on talent development. So

962
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Speaker 9: like you know, we've got probably two hundred and fifty

963
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 9: imagine fantastic public servants that you want to develop and

964
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Speaker 9: give them bigger jobs, give them opportunities to do stuff.

965
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Speaker 13: I think you're right.

966
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Speaker 9: We manage a lot of complexity and government. Is my

967
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Speaker 9: observation a year and a bit into this job. We

968
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Speaker 9: need much more simplicity and if that means sort of

969
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Speaker 9: sharpening up agencies and portfolios and simplifying all of that,

970
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Speaker 9: that would be great. And I think the other thing

971
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Speaker 9: I've asked him to focus on is, you know, we

972
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Speaker 9: need to think about the the media. Give me if

973
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Speaker 9: when I say this, but I think it's right, is

974
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Speaker 9: that the public is my customer, and you know, we

975
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Speaker 9: need these to be service led organizations that have customers,

976
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Speaker 9: which is the new Zealand public. And I think digitization

977
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Speaker 9: actually thinking through the customer issues as to what it's

978
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Speaker 9: like dealing with the government agency and how we use

979
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Speaker 9: digital skills in particular to do a better job of

980
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Speaker 9: better customer service is important. So you know, I think

981
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Speaker 9: we're really aligned, and I'm really excited about him because in.

982
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Speaker 2: The public service community see him and or you blowing

983
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: up some government departments they no longer may well.

984
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Speaker 13: Be the case.

985
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 9: I think, you know, where we've got a lot of

986
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Speaker 9: small agencies that lack scale is probably too many of

987
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 9: them at times that I want every agency really focused

988
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Speaker 9: on what its core business actually is. I want them

989
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Speaker 9: to be curious. I want them to actually be creating value.

990
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Speaker 9: I want them to be very customer focused. And so yep,

991
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Speaker 9: that's one of the things I've asked them to think

992
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 9: through is you know, how do we get things simpler?

993
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 9: So that and then we've when you've got things that simple,

994
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Speaker 9: then you can hold people to account for what they're

995
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Speaker 9: there to do and deliver.

996
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So now that sort of answers my question to

997
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: the extent that the Kumar case, which is interesting, somebody

998
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Speaker 2: text me and said they can't have been contributing income

999
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Speaker 2: tax for twenty four years if they were overstars. My

1000
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Speaker 2: argument would be, I bet you they could have they

1001
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Speaker 2: ran their own business, because ird wouldn't share enough information

1002
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Speaker 2: with the appropriate people and that's how you stay in

1003
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Speaker 2: the country illegally for twenty four years.

1004
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think there's a whole bunch of questions

1005
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 9: that that case will never be thrown up on. I've

1006
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 9: got to be careful because as you know, illegally, I've

1007
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 9: got you know, Chris Penker's associate me and it's just

1008
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 9: reviewing it all and it's not.

1009
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Speaker 13: Appropriate I talk about the specifics of that case.

1010
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 9: My bigger point is that it's really important given we've

1011
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 9: had so many New New Zealanders come in to New

1012
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 9: Zealand over the last twenty years who have actually done

1013
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 9: the right thing and followed legal immigration processes right. And

1014
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 9: it's unfair when people don't do that. And that's why

1015
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Speaker 9: I do want us to be much more vigilant on

1016
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 9: making sure we uphold legal immigration. That's really important. It's

1017
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Speaker 9: a fairness point. That's a key principle of being a

1018
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 9: key we as that if you've worked hard and you've

1019
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 9: actually done the followed the process and come to this

1020
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Speaker 9: country because you believe in it and you've followed the

1021
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Speaker 9: law and the rules, that's that's fantastic. And actually those

1022
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Speaker 9: people they are often the people that are most vociferous

1023
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Speaker 9: about the folk that have gone around it illegally. So

1024
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Speaker 9: you know, we've got to do a better job obviously

1025
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Speaker 9: making sure that we are on top of it. And

1026
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Speaker 9: you know, I know, Eric Stampa's got resources to look

1027
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Speaker 9: into some of that as well to make sure that's

1028
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Speaker 9: been It might.

1029
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Speaker 2: Well be for Pink the hardest thing you ever does,

1030
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Speaker 2: because how do you boot a country? I mean, they

1031
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Speaker 2: deserve to be booted out because they're legals, but the

1032
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Speaker 2: kids it's not his fault.

1033
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Speaker 17: So what do you do?

1034
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Look, I mean these are classic cases of

1035
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Speaker 9: illegal immigration you see all around the world, and it's

1036
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Speaker 9: a really difficult case. There's massive amounts of emotion in it.

1037
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Speaker 9: There'll be, you know, you know, a whole bunch of

1038
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Speaker 9: considerations that he's got to do. It's a really tough job,

1039
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 9: really tough job. But you know, the immigration officials have

1040
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Speaker 9: come to their view. Norek finally comes to the Sacian

1041
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Speaker 9: minister to make a.

1042
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Speaker 2: Cause because he's got all the information, hasn't he. I mean,

1043
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Speaker 2: there's nothing stopping and making the decision literally now, is there?

1044
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Speaker 2: Because he can do anything at once? What else does

1045
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: he need to know? Yeah?

1046
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Speaker 9: He's got a chart to go ask some questions of

1047
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 9: the officials and understand the case well and to make

1048
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Speaker 9: an assessment. But you know, he got handed I think

1049
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Speaker 9: at the end of last week. So you know, he'll

1050
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 9: move through it as quickly as he can, but he's

1051
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Speaker 9: got to do it fairly. He's got a you know,

1052
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Speaker 9: there's a whole bunch of implications that come from whatever

1053
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 9: decision he makes, obviously, but you know, I trust him.

1054
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Speaker 9: Know it's a difficult job weighing up these individual cases

1055
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Speaker 9: because everyone's you know, if it was easy, it would

1056
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Speaker 9: have been sorted.

1057
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Speaker 13: And ultimately the buck stops with him.

1058
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Speaker 2: I sort of I understood your defense yesterday post cab

1059
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Speaker 2: on the boot camp thing, and you did spook it

1060
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Speaker 2: and Chure especially spooked it and told us about all

1061
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Speaker 2: the kids that we're going to do well, and then

1062
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Speaker 2: suddenly we clam up shut. So I sided with the

1063
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Speaker 2: media on that. But what they didn't do yesterday is

1064
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Speaker 2: talk about that report and the report having read it

1065
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Speaker 2: by and large as positive good stuff. Yeah it is,

1066
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Speaker 2: it is positive.

1067
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Speaker 13: I mean there was.

1068
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Speaker 9: I mean, you've got kids here, Mike, who are most

1069
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Speaker 9: serious sort of young persistent offenders, and now they are

1070
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Speaker 9: toughest kids and they end up in a facility like that,

1071
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Speaker 9: and that's how they got deemed to put onto this pilot.

1072
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Speaker 9: There was lots that we did really well on the

1073
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Speaker 9: residential facility. You know, there was lots of support around

1074
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Speaker 9: the kids. Yes, you know, it was some really good

1075
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Speaker 9: things that happened. But the bit that we need to

1076
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Speaker 9: work harder on is obviously the transition back into community. Yes,

1077
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Speaker 9: there will be some reoffending, for sure. I'm not going

1078
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Speaker 9: to comment on that, as I said yesterday, because I

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Speaker 9: think you know, there's issues before courts and kids going

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Speaker 9: through processes, and it's a relatively small number of them.

1081
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Speaker 9: But it's not fair that promise to comments on it.

1082
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 9: But there were positives in that, and I'm sorry, you know,

1083
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 9: people keep being on saying it's you know, it's not

1084
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 9: working well. Actually, these kids are getting a breath and

1085
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 9: an intervention and a choice about how they might want

1086
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 9: to live the rest of their life. And if they've

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00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 9: got people around them for the first time that are

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 9: actually building them up and getting them focused and actually

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00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 9: spending time with them.

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Speaker 13: The new legislation we're putting.

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00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 9: Through the House very shortly on the serious Young offender

1092
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Speaker 9: will just mean that we've got the flexibility to extend

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00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 9: the time and residential care, and for some of those kids,

1094
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 9: they probably could have benefited for more time and residential

1095
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 9: care before they come back in the community.

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Speaker 2: The reports, I said, though that I thought was obvious.

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: It didn't it doesn't have enough stuff?

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00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 7: Why not?

1099
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: Well it does.

1100
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Speaker 2: It did have a heap of stuff. I mean, specifically,

1101
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: there's not enough one on one support. And the people

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00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: who were doing it, I felt under pressure. And who

1103
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: can blame them because old world's watching it felt under

1104
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: pressure to perform. They need more support, So why't Why

1105
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't you stack it up at the front. Well we did.

1106
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 9: I mean we put a lot of people and a

1107
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 9: lot of resources in there, and I visited that.

1108
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 13: But I appreciate the staff.

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00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 9: You know, we had expectations and intensity about that. There

1110
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 9: were some really good things that happened. I don't think

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00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 9: we had any incidences of kid on kid violence, which

1112
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 9: is you know what happens in a lot of those.

1113
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 13: Youth justice facilities. So there's some really good work going on.

1114
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 9: I'm sure there's more that we can do to support

1115
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 9: the staff in particular, and I think there's a lot

1116
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 9: more we could be doing and making the transition back

1117
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 9: in the community, which is always the hard part, right,

1118
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 9: But you know, I'm not giving up on these kids, Mike,

1119
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 9: because actually we want them off community and we want

1120
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 9: them to take it out with a chance to reset

1121
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 9: and also make a choice about what they want to

1122
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 9: do for the next twenty years.

1123
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: It's the things that's worrying me about this. So I

1124
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: know it's all politics and everything, but the amount of

1125
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: energy that's been put in by some people to pile

1126
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: on this thing and to sink it before it starts

1127
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: is upsetting. And now, listen, this is a lot.

1128
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 9: Of you don't like it, but actually I don't care

1129
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 9: because you to do the right thing by these kids,

1130
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 9: and you give them a shot to churn their lives

1131
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 9: around and then you make the choice.

1132
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: Now speaking which this committee that Goldsmith set up back

1133
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: in September to look at retail crime with old Sunny Koschl,

1134
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: who you hired to shut them up? Where the hell

1135
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: was this? I'm reading this last night six months in

1136
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: they what's been done? Well, just just just rewind a

1137
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: little bit, Like retail crime has gone up one hundred percent.

1138
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: It's cost us over a billion dollars a year. As

1139
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: the reality of it, Goldsmith's formed a ministerial advisory group.

1140
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: He's got people from the front line. I just told

1141
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: you what's happened. Tell me what you're going to do

1142
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: with six months? How was it? They're going to surface

1143
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: with some ideas. I'm going to surface. How have they been?

1144
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 9: You watch for the rolling thunder, Mike's coming. But in

1145
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 9: all seriousness, they've actually got some pretty pragmatic common sense

1146
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 9: sort of ideas and as we get two or three

1147
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 9: out of that group good and are dealing with a

1148
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 9: billion dollar problem, that's going to be good. So watch

1149
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 9: this space rolling Sunday, stortly, very shortly, Michael, there.

1150
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Days or weeks, because I've got the headline Government of Pleasures.

1151
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 9: Yep, there's some very provocative things in there, but I

1152
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 9: think some very pragmatic common sense actually from the front line.

1153
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 13: That would be useful.

1154
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 9: And frankly, if we get two or three things out

1155
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 9: of that group that actually we can put into the

1156
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 9: system to get the settings tighter and actually cut down

1157
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 9: on retail crime and the same way we're cutting down

1158
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 9: on violent crime, that's good.

1159
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: Would you put peacekeepers on the ground in Ukraine?

1160
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 13: Look, I mean I think we've got a long way

1161
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 13: to go.

1162
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: I mean we're yeah, no.

1163
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 13: I get it, But I mean from our point of view,

1164
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 13: we're very supportive of Ukraine.

1165
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 9: We are actually in lockstep with the Brits. Actually, were

1166
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 9: we with them training Ukrainian soldiers in the UK.

1167
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: Why ask the question, because that's what we do. Well,

1168
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: we'd be open to that, would be open to it.

1169
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: We've got a number of peace keeping missions around the world.

1170
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: But for us, we stand with the Ukraine.

1171
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 9: It's important, you know, we have these values about nation states, sovereignty,

1172
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 9: you know, rule of law. We've seen a big power

1173
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 9: I just use its power and coming over the top

1174
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 9: of a small country. And most importantly we need Ukraine

1175
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 9: or Russia. Well, we're talking about in general across the

1176
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 9: geopolitical landscape at the moment. You know, the rules based system,

1177
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 9: as we say, is breaking down when you've got big

1178
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 9: countries that are acting out of power, not out on

1179
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 9: the basis of rules. And for small countries like New Zealand,

1180
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 9: we care deeply about that stuff because those are you know,

1181
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 9: from the grace of God, that could be us.

1182
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 13: So actually that's why we have real affinity with Ukraine.

1183
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 13: But you know we'd be open to that.

1184
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: Stop eating dinner on your knee, It's not healthy. This

1185
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: is the body hacker. Yeah, that's right. Chris Luxe and

1186
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: the Prime and still Christopher Luxon twelve minutes away from Mate.

1187
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1188
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: by the News.

1189
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: Talks at be Myke Prime in Selection hit the nail

1190
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: on the head with talent development within New Zealand. Too

1191
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: many of our key management role roles start with an

1192
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: important ten years later. Eighty percent of the entire department

1193
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: comes from a suburb of London, made up of schoolmates

1194
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: and next work colleagues. It is not a bad point, Mike.

1195
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: Jury's out on lux with me, but today I found

1196
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: them very impressive. I said nothing I would disagree with

1197
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: his comments. Do show how poorly MSM are treating them.

1198
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: I tend to agree. I watch a lot of it

1199
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: all live these days, and what you see unfold live

1200
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: and what you get later on in the day are

1201
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: two completely different things. We should be more interested, Mike,

1202
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: and what's occurring in our doorstep than in the Ukraine.

1203
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: The Cook Islands have just been taken from under our nose.

1204
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: I only partially agree with you what Brown's got to

1205
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: say over the next twenty four hours. I assuming at

1206
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: some point, having got back to RaRo yesterday, he's going

1207
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: to unveil what he actually signed up to and it

1208
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: will take it to the Parliament. There was a boat

1209
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: of no confidence lined up that's been delayed, and at

1210
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: some point he might want to pick up the phone

1211
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: and ring, oh, I don't know, somebody like Winston and

1212
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: tell us what's going on and whether or not we

1213
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: need to And I'm reading yesterday we're going to have

1214
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: to sort of change the way we write the agreements.

1215
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: Australia did it a while back with places like Tabalu,

1216
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: but whether we're going to have to change and harden

1217
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: up on the agreements with the way you know, it's

1218
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: all very well handing out money to these people, but

1219
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's wandering off to China and

1220
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: no one knew what was going on and we didn't

1221
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: need to be in the room. I think we just

1222
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: need to we need to tapen up a little bit there.

1223
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: But we'll need to hear what he has to say

1224
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: and what he signed up to. Eight away from it, the.

1225
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking breakfast with the range rover Villa news talks

1226
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Dad b.

1227
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: But generally I'm a hard ass. But in this case,

1228
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: the boy was born here. The sister as well, but

1229
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 2: she fits the old Laurence stay. Surely, sending a single

1230
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: chart to a foreign country all the loaner is in humane. Well, yes,

1231
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: and that is part of the argument. But then again

1232
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: the parents are illegals, so do you see in them

1233
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: as well? I think I was right about that ird

1234
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: business when people go, well, how do they pay tax? Ird?

1235
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: Don't you know when they get the tax, they don't go.

1236
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: I wonder if it is overstayed. Put the decision on

1237
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: the overstayed, Mike back on them pay a large final leave, James.

1238
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: That can't work. Think about it. What that says is

1239
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: if you're an overstay with money, you get to stay,

1240
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 2: versus an overstay with no money, you don't get to stay.

1241
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 2: So that doesn't work for a moment.

1242
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: Is this?

1243
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: Is it just me am I snob and thinking that

1244
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: sitting there with your dinner on your knees a bit weird.

1245
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: It is a bit weird, isn't it. It's me we

1246
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: were not because you are, so I don't know. It's

1247
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: just that it's got a sad, lonely Hello, man, was

1248
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: your night, Amanda?

1249
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 5: Was?

1250
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 6: How are you supposed to watch Netflix?

1251
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: We don't watch while you're eating dinner for a start,

1252
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: is my thing? And then maybe I don't know the tape.

1253
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: This is where you've gone completely wrong.

1254
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: Check to your chat to your partner. I mean it's

1255
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: not like he hasn't got interesting chat. I mean, the

1256
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: guy's running a country, for God's sake, And even if

1257
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: you don't like him and wouldn't have voted for him,

1258
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: he's still got interesting chat.

1259
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 21: There's travelers, though his day has been quite widely covered

1260
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 21: by the time he gets I probably watched it on

1261
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 21: Yeah exactly, he's got nothing new to tell her.

1262
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Well, though she could say I've seen I saw your

1263
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: post cap. Yeah, what'd you think? Tatoes are nice? Aren't they? Well?

1264
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: I thought you were a bit slow on that one

1265
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: from Jina. Oh was I okay? I don't know.

1266
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 6: Maybe the real story behind who's running this country?

1267
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: Eh?

1268
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 5: What?

1269
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: I got to get to White Lotus, which I did

1270
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: watch yesterday, and I wasn't doing it with dinner on

1271
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: the knee.

1272
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: The mikeskame be in stateful then gaging and vitally the

1273
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life your way, news,

1274
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: togs Head been.

1275
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Dinner on his lap, Tim the Luxeon's not a forward place. Oh,

1276
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: we've started a thing here, Mike. You're a shocking snob,

1277
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: and so it goes anyway.

1278
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: We'll out.

1279
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: We'll come back to that when there can't be news.

1280
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Nod in agreement there, nodding yet, Yes, you are seven

1281
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: minutes past day time for catchup? Whether I will make

1282
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: Graham Norton who No, it does not a book or

1283
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: a television show. It's a tour. Norton has headed our

1284
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: way for what appears to be a growing number of

1285
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: shows in this country. Arrives next month anyway, Graham Norton,

1286
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: good morning, Hello sir, how are you? I'm extremely well

1287
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: and happy New Year to you. Quick question. I had

1288
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: been Elton on the program last week and I asked

1289
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: him about Christmas New Year. He said he cooked two turkeys,

1290
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: a roast pork vegetable options plural plus roast vegetaies for

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Speaker 2: the family. Can you beat that? Or is he a

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Speaker 2: show off?

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Speaker 14: Elson John?

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Speaker 17: Did that?

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Speaker 20: No?

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Speaker 2: Not Elton John being Elton wrong?

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Speaker 17: Elton, Oh, Ben, I was thinking, I really can't imagine

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Speaker 17: Ben Alston or Elton john Brook two turkeys. No, we

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Speaker 17: we struggled with one here. And actually it was really

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 17: my Christmas dinner was very, very bad this year. I

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Speaker 17: miss timed in all that uports were close to raw.

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Speaker 17: Everyone was quite polite because they didn't have to cook it.

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Speaker 13: I did.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, it was not not my finest.

1305
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: Allaity fantastic you're back into it from my wife, by

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: the way, who's just finished Frankie. Two questions. One she

1307
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: can grat She said, this is your best yet and

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Speaker 2: by some margin. And I don't think she she's a

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: big fan of yours, so she's not saying you were

1310
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: useless and now you're brilliant, but she's just you, you've

1311
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: hit your stride. Do you feel that way?

1312
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Speaker 17: It's my favorite one of them so far. I mean,

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Speaker 17: I suppose you're you're you know, you're young. It's always

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Speaker 17: your favorite, but but I do it kind of it

1315
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 17: felt different, right, and it has kind of landed differently

1316
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Speaker 17: with readers and stuff. So yeah, I'm really I'm really peopable.

1317
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 17: Thank your wife. That's very kind of her, not at all.

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Speaker 2: And having said that, I mean I read the books

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Speaker 2: as well, but but she was particularly effusive. She says,

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Speaker 2: and here's I hadn't thought about this, she says, Do

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: you write in your voice? Because she can't read it

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Speaker 2: without hearing you say it.

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Speaker 17: It's a weird thing, isn't it, Because normally when you

1324
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Speaker 17: read a book, you don't know what the writer sounds like.

1325
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Speaker 17: But of course when it says great Norton on the cover,

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Speaker 17: you do. So I don't know, I mean in my

1327
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 17: I don't. I mean I'm writing it, and I do

1328
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Speaker 17: do the audio book, and I'm able to read it,

1329
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 17: so I suppose it feels comfortable for.

1330
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Speaker 2: Me to read.

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Speaker 17: But I'm not aware of my voice as I as

1332
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Speaker 17: I write. But yeah, I'm sure it's been there.

1333
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Speaker 2: The next part. And can I congratulate you on these shows.

1334
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it started out nine shows you're bringing here,

1335
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: but it has grown to nine shows, and I think

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Speaker 2: I think they're all sell That surely tells you something

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: about the love of New Zealanders towards you.

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Speaker 17: It's listen because you know you put these things on

1339
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 17: saying you're kind of dear God, let me come and

1340
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 17: see me. So when they felt that so far for

1341
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 17: the ask for exidates. That's great, So I think they

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Speaker 17: are all sort of. I think there's a couple of

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 17: tickets still left for the extra one in christ Structured

1344
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Speaker 17: town Hall on Wednesday twenty sixth and in Wellington at

1345
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Speaker 17: the micro Filer Center of the twenty eighth that be

1346
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Speaker 17: being organized. So I think those are the only ones

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Speaker 17: that's still a ticket left if people would like to

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Speaker 17: come and see me.

1349
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Speaker 18: Do you?

1350
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you must have had enough success so far

1351
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: to be comfortable within your own skin, but do you

1352
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: have that nervousness when you talk to an agent or

1353
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: a manager or whoever's organizing the stuff going? How many shows,

1354
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: how big a haul, how many tickets? What's it going

1355
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: to do? Am I popping?

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Speaker 19: You know?

1357
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Speaker 17: All that stuff you do, you do because this is

1358
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 17: a kind of you know, most of the stuff I do.

1359
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 17: It's quite a passive thing to consume. You know, you

1360
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 17: turn on a radio, or you turn on a TV

1361
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 17: or this, you know, a clip from the show just

1362
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 17: pops up on your Instagram. This you've got to actively,

1363
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 17: you know, go online, pick up a phone. You've got

1364
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 17: to reach into your wallet, you've got to get actual cash,

1365
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 17: you know. So it's a much bigger commitment. You know,

1366
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 17: you could quite like me without thinking I need to

1367
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Speaker 17: leave my house and spend two hours with him. So yeah,

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Speaker 17: I I, I. Yeah. You're always nervous when you do

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Speaker 17: something that requires people to take action. So I'm really

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Speaker 17: pleased that people have decided to come out. And you know,

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Speaker 17: I did some shows this show before Christmas in the

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Speaker 17: UK and it is it. I did have a good

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Speaker 17: time doing I'm looking forward to bringing it down there.

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Speaker 2: Good. The business of leaving your television program to do

1375
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: this tour strikes me as a large one, was it?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 17: No, because in fact I'm only missing one week, is

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 17: that it? Yeah, the press of the press is slightly

1379
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 17: restorations my abandonment of the TV show. No, I'm just

1380
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 17: missing one week and the lovely Claudia Winkleman is sitting

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Speaker 17: in for the for the week I'm missing. But no,

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 17: then then we were off anyway, So yeah, it's it's

1383
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 17: not so dramatic. I think the BBC would not be

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Speaker 17: very pleased by just said, Oh, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 17: traveling around Australia at New Zealand while my show's supposed

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Speaker 17: to be on.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you explained that because I literally, because

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: I know what I you know, love I put into

1389
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: my show, and I'm assuming it's yours. And your show

1390
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: is not just a show. I mean, you know, it's

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: people on a couch and you talk to people, but

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Speaker 2: it's what you bring. And therefore, if I was employing you,

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Speaker 2: I'd be thinking, well, hold on, mate, the show is

1394
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: not really the same if you're not there, And I thought,

1395
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: what a big call to make. So it is just

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Speaker 2: one and I take it. She's done it because that's

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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: been done. Isn't Because I was looking at the list yesterday,

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of shows we haven't seen here in

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Speaker 2: the country yet. But she's done the show that you're missing.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 17: No, she's She's been on the show earlier this year,

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 17: and she'll be recording the show. So I'm doing my

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 17: final show this coming Thursday, about the Friday, and then

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01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 17: she does the one after that when I'm getting on

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Speaker 17: a jet. Fay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got that all right? Well hold on because one

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01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: of the shows I think you have done, which is

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: coming up but hasn't been seen here yet, has got

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: an interesting guests. So I want to talk about that

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: in no moment. More from Graham Norton shortly thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I had

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Speaker 1: Radio Coward by News.

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Speaker 3: Talks it be.

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Speaker 2: It's news Talks have been sixteen past. Graham Norton's our guest,

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: these nine shows. A couple of these tickets we refer

1416
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: to our I'll give you those details in just a

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01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: couple of moments. Anyway, back to the show. So I

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: was looking at the lineup. Have you done the Nero yet?

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 17: Yes, that has happened, And as advertised, he's a lovely,

1420
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 17: very nice man, but not a chattie.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 17: He's he's been nominated. He's been nominated for eight hours

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 17: and he's won two.

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: As far as the the Neighborhood, I've got to talk

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: to you about as well. Have you done that yet

1426
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 17: God, you're good, Mike. You're keeping up following my career

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 17: with interest. Yeah, we're doing that in June. And it

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 17: won't actually be on Telly Bill twenty twenty six, Wow,

1431
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 17: because it'll be it'll be a huge editing job. It's

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 17: all these families and households living in houses and are

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 17: filmed twenty four to seven a Lah Big Brother, and

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 17: then it's a bit like I know it must be

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01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 17: a New Zealand version of goggle Box.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well there's not a New Zealand version. We see

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01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: google botxl okay, so there's a.

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Speaker 17: Bit of goggle Box about it. And then they do

1439
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 17: these challenges but one of the households will win a

1440
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 17: quarter of a million British pounds. Wow, which is you

1441
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 17: know that's a prize worth getting. So yeah, we're filming

1442
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 17: that in June. But like I say, it'll be mostly

1443
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 17: kind of be put together in the edit and then

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 17: it'll all be on TV.

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: And do you have a seat that it's going places

1446
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: in terms of reality television? Does this a format? You

1447
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: think there's a bit of magic here? I?

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 17: Well, this listen, I went, I don't like working. I

1449
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 17: know it seems like I do, but I don't. And

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 17: so I went to this meeting where they're going to

1451
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 17: tell me about this new show, thinking oh, fine, all

1452
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 17: right to the super meeting, but I'm going to say no,

1453
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 17: And actually that does sound quite good. So I thought

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 17: I'll be annoyed if I'm sat at home watching someone

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 17: else hose that. So I said, yeah, and you know

1456
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 17: it's and also it's that weird thing. You know, I'm

1457
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 17: sixty one, about to be sixty two, so the idea

1458
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 17: that someone's offering me a kind of a hot ticket

1459
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 17: big job in TV is kind of amazing, so it

1460
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 17: would seem churlish to turn it down. So yeah, I've

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Speaker 17: got another job.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, listen, we're looking forward obviously, we're looking forward

1463
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: to seeing you because your virtually shows are all solid out.

1464
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: But if you get time pop by and say hi

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: to us, is always a thrill to kill up with you.

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 17: All right, take care, sir, Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to sir Graham Norton in the country.

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: Let me give you the date. Apparently you're telling me

1469
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: there was a goggle box google Box here a local

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: version obviously not a raging success for probably went for

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Speaker 2: the one season twenty six and twenty eighth of March

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Speaker 2: year two. Left that everything else is sold out. So

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Speaker 2: christ Church at the town Hall at the little Burn Auditorium,

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Speaker 2: so there's a couple of tickets available there, the twenty

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Speaker 2: eighth at the Fowlers Center. Small number there, so you'll

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Speaker 2: need to be fairly quick. So Graham Norton, always good

1477
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: to have him on the program, and all the people

1478
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Speaker 2: who've read the book and texted and obviously very very popular,

1479
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Speaker 2: which is great.

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Speaker 15: Nineteen past eight The Make Asking Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 15: estate news dog Zibby.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen. Goggle Box the local version TV three came

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Speaker 2: and went. Morty, my twenty four year old bought me

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: a ticket for Christmas. Is Graham Norton. He's taking me

1485
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: for dinner in the show. It's our thing. We've always

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01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: watched Graham, and I'm beyond excited. Best person ever, isn't it.

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: I'm cited for you. It looks like Mike. The three

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven dollars ticketonian Christ just big bucks

1489
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: and a three hundred and eighty seven. I'd pay three

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Speaker 2: eighty seven if I had at four or Graham, but

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: three eighty seven. There was a time when if he

1492
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: cracked one hundred for a concert, people go, geez, one

1493
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, Mike. We listened to Frank mind you. I

1494
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: bought some olive oil the other day. We bought our annion.

1495
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: This is not to dismiss our supplies of the olive oil,

1496
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: because we love them. They happen to be our neighbors,

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Speaker 2: and they make the best olive oil. In the country,

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: but we buy in bulk in our fusty. Don't ask

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Speaker 2: what a fusty is, Glenn.

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Speaker 21: I've already didn't that exactly and so explained it and

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Speaker 21: I've forgotten anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's a big metal container that contains a lot of

1503
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: oil once so we buy our annual supply of oil.

1504
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: And last year I paid seventy dollars a liter, which

1505
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: is a lot, but it's exceedingly high end. This year

1506
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: it was one hundred dollars a liter. So that's what's

1507
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: happened to the prize of olive oil all over the world.

1508
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: So three eighty seven for a concert's nothing, Mike. We

1509
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: listened to Frankie on the audio book read by Graham.

1510
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: It was brilliant needs his accent tell Graham read his

1511
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: bok frankly last month's London, So plenty of Graham Norton fans.

1512
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: By the way, as regards a bean bag tray, it

1513
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: turns out I'm quite possibly a snob, which will who

1514
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: saw this coming? So Sam virtually every night because he

1515
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: got a bean bag tray for his thirteenth birthday from

1516
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: his mum, and so he sits in front of the

1517
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: telly every night and with his bean bag tray eating

1518
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 2: his dinner. So a lot of people do just to

1519
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: be fair.

1520
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 21: He's not sitting there, you know, ignoring his partner because

1521
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 21: she's not home from work at that point.

1522
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: So he's just by himself, little SAMs, by himself with

1523
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 2: little bean ba.

1524
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 21: And also he doesn't actually have a table to which

1525
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 21: he doesn't have a table in the city living, you

1526
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 21: know how it is.

1527
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: Only an outside table sitting outside, so he's got to

1528
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: sit inside in the corner on his lap. There's little

1529
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: bean bag tray. He's a little producer who could And

1530
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: then but then Glenn at that point, Glenn at that

1531
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: point said, we've got bean bag trays. Here we go.

1532
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: So anyway, for all I know, Luxon and Amanda have

1533
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: got bean bag trays, and the whole country's got bean

1534
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: bag trays. Twenty eight bucks for a bean bag tray

1535
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: on Timu, but I wouldn't buy it because it'll have

1536
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: been made by slave labor. So you need to go

1537
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: to Mighty Ape. You have delivery problems with Mighty eight.

1538
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: Here's my last story with Mighty Ape. We went and

1539
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: bought a perfume at Mighty Ape on Mighty Ape and

1540
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: they designate perfume as is it a poison or and

1541
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: it's dangerous dangerous goods. They call it dangerous goods because.

1542
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 21: We ordered this, isn't it because they know what you're

1543
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 21: going to do with it when you get it, You're

1544
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 21: just going to douse yourself in it, thereby becoming a

1545
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 21: wipin of mess destruction for your colleagues.

1546
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: It took weeks and we thought where the hell's has

1547
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: come from? And it goes, oh, it's because of dangerous goods.

1548
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: Since when did perfume, cologne, after shave, whatever you want

1549
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: to call it become dangerous goods?

1550
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 6: Well let me know next time. Because I just live

1551
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 6: around the corner from my hoe.

1552
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: I was going to say, very pleasant, you are I

1553
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: just just pop in and grab some. Anyway, we eventually

1554
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: got it. I thought it was a bit stupid, which

1555
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: brings me to White Lotus and I watched the first

1556
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: episode last night of season three and I'm a massive

1557
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: We are a massive, massive White Lotus watches. Now, we

1558
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: had our meal at the counter and when we're first

1559
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: wait at the counter, at the counter at the counter,

1560
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 2: so you haven't got a table either, got a table?

1561
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: And we interchange we can go to the table, or

1562
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: we go to the counter. Last night, we're into the counter.

1563
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: So we sat at the counter, sat up at the

1564
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: counter with knives and forks, having it at the counter

1565
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: any bitter than imonstrated as it's at the counter anyway.

1566
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: So we sat at the counter and we finished our meal,

1567
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: and then we sat down we watched White Lotus.

1568
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 6: If I hadn't said, you're sitting side by, you're still

1569
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 6: sitting side by.

1570
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: Son, not snow by side. No, I'm at the end

1571
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: of the counter and she's at the left hand side.

1572
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 6: That is actually I don't like being opposite.

1573
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 2: Could No, you don't want to be opposite.

1574
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 6: I feel like i'm judge from couldn't agree more.

1575
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: And so I'm at the head of the counter and

1576
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: she's at the left hand side of the counter. Anyway,

1577
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: works out well. So after she dismiss me to do

1578
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: the dishes, finish off the washing for the day, we

1579
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: sat down to White Lotus. Now, if you hadn't seen

1580
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 2: White Lotus before, you'd go God, this is slow burn,

1581
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 2: but it's set the table. No pun intended. Given the

1582
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: discussion of all the characters. This is set in Thailand.

1583
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: They're sort of the same. They're different people every time

1584
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: are one. They're completely different people, but they're the same

1585
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: characters if you know what I mean. You know one

1586
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: so you don't like them. Yeah, and someone's going to

1587
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: end up dead. So anyway, it looks good. I came

1588
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: away thinking, oh yeah, it's lost none of its magic.

1589
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: All the reviews don't speak well of it. But I

1590
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: speak well of it, and I have my dinner at

1591
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: a counter, so that's got to count for something.

1592
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: News is next, news, opinion and everything in between.

1593
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: The Mike costing breakfast with the range Rover Villar designed

1594
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use.

1595
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: Togs, that'd be Mike. It's rather the couint that you

1596
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: and others still refer to kitchen services as counters. Unless

1597
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: you're running a business from your kitchen. There's not much

1598
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: counting of money going on an you more, but the

1599
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: term remains well, it's a it's a fair point you make.

1600
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to call it. The kit

1601
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: To my mind, the bench is the bit that you

1602
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: are doing the kitchening in. So in other words, you've

1603
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: got your sink, you've got the area around it, that's

1604
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: your kitchen bench. That's when you're doing, you're cutting, your chopping,

1605
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: you're cooking, your preparation, all that sort of stuff. What

1606
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 2: you quite often have these days, and what we have

1607
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: is a thing that sticks out the end.

1608
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 6: Is that a return? Maybe a return to me.

1609
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: Is something that's round at the end. And for some reason,

1610
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but no, And so what's the

1611
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: bit that sticks out the end? If it's not a counter,

1612
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: you're your bar? Yeah, it could be breakfast bar. Yeah, no,

1613
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 2: fair cool break but exactly, and so it's not the dinner.

1614
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 6: Bar, it certainly is it, or the lunch bar, or

1615
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 6: the brunch.

1616
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: Bar, or the sit down check with your wife bar.

1617
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: It's the kitchen breakfast bar. And so therefore I'm stuck

1618
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: with counter. But I take your point. Twenty two minutes

1619
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: away from.

1620
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 8: Nine International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1621
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand.

1622
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: Business, Right, Britt, we go a run a little morning

1623
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: to you.

1624
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 7: Good morning mate.

1625
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: If you ran a pole on Starmer's idea of putting

1626
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: boots on the ground in Ukraine on the peacekeeping force,

1627
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 2: would that have much support or not? I don't know.

1628
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 7: That's a really interesting question and not what i'd considered.

1629
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 7: I've been looking at it, you know, for the Podsdew

1630
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 7: of the USA and Britain in poll in terms, people

1631
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 7: aren't keen on us getting involved in the wars, which

1632
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 7: we're not directly connected to. So I would have thought

1633
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 7: it would be fairly unpopular immediately. And don't forget there's

1634
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 7: a great ground swell of liking for Donald Trump here

1635
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 7: at the moment of people who hitherto probably didn't like

1636
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 7: him very much. So I would have thought it would

1637
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 7: be a negative rather than a positive. But at the

1638
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: same time it does shows Starmer in a kind of

1639
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 7: the other use of the word positive light, in that

1640
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 7: you know, he is proactive light. He's doing something and

1641
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 7: countering the fusilade from America that we've had, particularly the

1642
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 7: Munich Security Conference, which has really blown open a huge

1643
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 7: gulf between the USA and Europe.

1644
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: Can you explain this to me, Rod, because I can't.

1645
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: So this is the advance speech. He came in and

1646
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: said what he said. Surely at some point somebody in

1647
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: Europe said, I'll tell you what this Trump guy gets back.

1648
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 2: It's all on because we saw it all being on

1649
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 2: in sixteen through twenty. How has it possible Europe's been

1650
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: taken by such surprise at what I would call the obvious.

1651
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 7: Arrogance AND's stupidity. That's the answer, and it's still going

1652
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 7: on in America right now, regardless of a lot of

1653
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 7: what was relevant to the heurity issue, which of course

1654
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 7: down the line it is the Van was absolutely correct

1655
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 7: in everything he said you know about Europe, and the

1656
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 7: polls in Europe would suggest that it was absolutely right.

1657
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 7: And indeed, the way that Europe has been moving in

1658
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 7: the last five or six years, there is no question

1659
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 7: that you know that there is a two tier policy

1660
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 7: when it comes to dealing with people, and people who

1661
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 7: are on the right of the political spectrum get banged

1662
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 7: up and they get in they treatment, and parties on

1663
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 7: the right excluded from governments and so on and so on.

1664
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 7: All of that is absolutely true. That may not have

1665
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 7: much to do with whether we should be supporting Ukraine

1666
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 7: or not, and I think there are problems with the

1667
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 7: way which the USA is proposing to go ahead with that,

1668
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 7: But it should come as no surprise to the EU itself,

1669
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 7: given that a good three quarter of the countries within

1670
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 7: the EU at the moment believe the same things themselves.

1671
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I should have mentioned Lord Dennette, who the

1672
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: other day was telling us that, you know, I mean,

1673
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: you haven't got the troops anyway. It's too far rundown.

1674
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Is that all true? That the military and Britain is

1675
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: so far rundown you can't do a lot even if

1676
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: you wanted to.

1677
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's true now. But the one good thing

1678
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 7: that may have come from from the Trump and Advance

1679
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 7: and the various other US State Deparliament people who've spoken

1680
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 7: about this is that it's a wake up call to Europe.

1681
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 7: You know, for seventy years we have franchised our support,

1682
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 7: our security to America and paid them next to nothing.

1683
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 7: You know, thirty percent of that whole bill is paid

1684
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: by America. Why should they do that, especially when they

1685
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 7: have nothing any more ideologically in common with us? What

1686
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 7: is a link to that? So it has become a

1687
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 7: wake up call. I was talking to a liberal Democrat

1688
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 7: Mpeer at the weekend, and the lib Dens have been,

1689
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 7: you know, pretty much anti military expenditurisy, but actually a

1690
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 7: liberal Democrat to be on the left and so on,

1691
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 7: and this was Mike Martin, and he said, we've got

1692
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 7: to move to three point five percent of GDP and

1693
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 7: perhaps up to five, you know, so it is suddenly

1694
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 7: concentrated the minds of these people who for years have

1695
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 7: been underpaying their fair share in NATO, and suddenly to

1696
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 7: we better do this ourselves because he's not going to

1697
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 7: do it anymore.

1698
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Hey, listen, can I ask you a couple

1699
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 2: of things while I've got you that are unrelated to them?

1700
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: By the way, has anything tangible come out of this?

1701
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: I know we've been banging on about the so called

1702
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, urgency and all that. Have they seen anything tonight?

1703
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, has anything literally come out of this?

1704
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 17: Or not?

1705
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 13: Not yet?

1706
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 7: Though I'm still waited much as you are. I mean,

1707
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 7: I disagree with him, but that's not point he has that.

1708
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 7: You know, Ukraine, we stand behind Ukraine, we will put

1709
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 7: boot to the grad, all that kind of stuff. And

1710
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 7: David Lady has said that Ukraine is on an irreversible

1711
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 7: path to native membership. Well, David, it doesn't look very

1712
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 7: irreversible from where I'm spending. But there we are. At

1713
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 7: least they are remaining true to to to what they've

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Speaker 7: said in the past. All that Europe is doing is

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Speaker 7: just it's just putting its head in the sand and screaming,

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Speaker 7: which means no one can hear it because their heads

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Speaker 7: are in the sand. It's it's it's a unique occasion.

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Speaker 7: And I think we looked back upon quite historically, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a moment in time. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't agree with you more. Just quickly on Rachel Reeves

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Speaker 2: domestic matters. One was the expenses thing, but more importantly

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Speaker 2: when she was at the Halifax Bank of Scotland, this

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Speaker 2: CV thing where she claims to have been at the

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Speaker 2: Bank of England a lot longer than she actually was.

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Speaker 2: Is this a thing or can you just go around

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Speaker 2: saying you were at places you weren't.

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Speaker 7: It's had a lot more traction than firstly I initially

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Speaker 7: thought it would, because more revelations have come out, such

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Speaker 7: as the expenses stuff. And I do wonder that we've

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Speaker 7: kind of got ourselves a custom to the CB business.

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Speaker 7: And we now know she lies. She has a problem

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Speaker 7: with the truth. Okay, that's one thing. But the more

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Speaker 7: detail that comes out about the expenses scandal, the more

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Speaker 7: precarious her position is. Because without costumes, she played fast

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Speaker 7: and loose with rules and with someone else's money.

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Speaker 2: Super uncle, all right, might go, well, catch up Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Rodin Little in Britain. By the way, there was a

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Speaker 2: poll out this morning for Sky done by YouGov Sky TV.

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Speaker 2: Torris Trial reform a whole bunch of indicators only temper

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Speaker 2: seed of voters currently see the toy is as strong.

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Speaker 2: Sixty one see them as week more than twice as likely.

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Speaker 2: See reform as having a clear direction only eleven percent.

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Speaker 2: So the toy is a trustworthy sixty five percent say

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Speaker 2: they're untrustworthy, so that's interesting as well.

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Speaker 1: Eight forty five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: And Justin from Fontierra. New incentives for farmers to reduce

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Speaker 2: some missions. So from the new season which is June one,

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Speaker 2: you got some payment for farms that achieved certain mimissions

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Speaker 2: related criteria. New cooperative difference payment one to five cents

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Speaker 2: per kilo of milk solids, New customer incentives. There's funding

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Speaker 2: from a separate agreement with Mars and Nesle, who they've

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Speaker 2: been working with for a while, so farmers will be

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Speaker 2: interested in that. Very good time to be a dairy

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Speaker 2: farmer in this country, not a good time to be

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Speaker 2: in the media. As I'm sure, you're well aware. And

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Speaker 2: one of the things that we're looking to do in

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Speaker 2: this country that's going nowhere. And I've been telling everybody

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Speaker 2: who asked me, is this going anywhere? I've said no,

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Speaker 2: it's not the idea that we somehow cut a deal

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Speaker 2: on behalf of the government too with Google, Facebook, any

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Speaker 2: pecketed big tech grant that they pay us some money

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Speaker 2: for the material they steal and put on their platforms,

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Speaker 2: news stuff like that. Now we were looking to Australia.

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Speaker 2: They had the deal that was going to work allegedly,

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Speaker 2: and now they don't because what happened yesterday is that

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Speaker 2: that's off because that would come under the broadheadline of

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Speaker 2: reciprocal tariffs. So the government has reportedly the Australian government

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Speaker 2: reportedly stalled plans to begin publicly designing its news bargaining incentive.

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Speaker 2: There will be no incentive. There is no bargaining confirm.

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Speaker 2: The delay is due to fear as the policy will

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Speaker 2: be seen as being unfairly targeting towards US companies because

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Speaker 2: of course Google, Facebook, et cetera, they're all American, result

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Speaker 2: in reciprocal tariffs on Australian experts set seeing into that

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Speaker 2: so this idea that somehow we were going to bring

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Speaker 2: big tech to the table and they were going to

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Speaker 2: be super excited about paying us some money. It was

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Speaker 2: always fancible in my humble opinion, and it's proved to

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Speaker 2: be so. Breakfast bar is a raised counter in a

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Speaker 2: kitchen that has room alongside for seating. Is used for

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Speaker 2: eating light meals. To find a like meat love the

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Speaker 2: show Mike counter Chat. Since we have kitchen islands, could

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Speaker 2: we call the counter a peninsula? That's quite good. A peninsula,

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Speaker 2: it's quite good, the isthmus. But the isth it appeals

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Speaker 2: to my sense of grandiosity?

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Speaker 6: Shall we shall we adjourn to the to the supper isthmus?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds good. It's called a waterfall, No, murray,

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Speaker 2: it's not called a waterfall. The waterfalls the other end

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Speaker 2: of it. When you've got a marble top and the

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Speaker 2: marble falls over the end and matches the vertical along

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Speaker 2: with the horizontal.

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Speaker 21: As does all your crockery and stuff that you tried

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Speaker 21: to put on the end of the bench. I find

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Speaker 21: it overbalances and goes over That is that what it does?

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Speaker 2: Do you have stuff you can't put in the dishwasher? Crockery. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hate that. Do you have a wife that says

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Speaker 2: you should know the difference and not to do it again?

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Speaker 6: You don't want to exactly might be taken down and

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Speaker 6: use against me.

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Speaker 2: I could see that, see that colony faces. I said

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Speaker 2: that nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement, Communities News,

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Speaker 2: Perhaps a plinth Mic, Mike, you never put a marble

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Speaker 2: type in a kitchen mate while you do, Clark and

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Speaker 2: I have meters of it. When SpaceX introduced starlink, groundbreaking

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Speaker 2: tech of course, but there are a few local cases,

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Speaker 2: not many to back up the effectiveness of the solutions

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Speaker 2: of Fletcher Tech, which is Fletcher Building's tech division, teamed

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Speaker 2: up with two Degrees Business and they tackle the significant

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Speaker 2: connectivity challenges faced in remote locations across New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: indeed Australia. Traditional five four G unavailable right so Fletcher

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Speaker 2: Tech have been installing starlink for business and Starlink through

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Speaker 2: two Degrees is now recognized by Fletcher Tech as a

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Speaker 2: affordable solution supported by two degrees managed services team based

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Speaker 2: right here in the country. It's all good news. And

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Speaker 2: two degrees have proved the serious about starlink through their

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Speaker 2: own testing service and oversights. So you can find out

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Speaker 2: more about starlink for business. Here's where you go. Two

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Speaker 2: degrees dot in Z four slash business, can't go wrong.

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Speaker 2: Two degrees dot nz forward slash business. Pasking India. By

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Speaker 2: the way, talking about power, we're bringing in coal. The

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Speaker 2: Indian State Power Company INTPC overnight announced that they're building

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Speaker 2: thirty gigawatts of nuclear over the next two decades. That

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Speaker 2: we're going to do ten. So that surprised everybody. So

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Speaker 2: it's going to be thirty. They're going to spend sixty

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Speaker 2: two billion dollars doing that. I'm telling you, I keep

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Speaker 2: telling you. New Clear is where it is going, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to miss the boat five to nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now we have chemist warehouse. Stop paying too much.

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Speaker 2: There were so many videos of the SNL fiftieth anniversary

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Everyone who was anybody was there. The

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Speaker 2: jokes were generally funny, the skits were generally brilliant. And

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Speaker 2: this is the performance. This is Paul Simon. He first

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Speaker 2: sang at nineteen seventy six. Here's the joke. Let's get

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Speaker 2: the joke out of the way. So he first sang

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Speaker 2: at nineteen seventy six with George Harrison, but today's got

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Speaker 2: Sabrina Kappander's.

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Speaker 14: Song with George Harrison on Saturday Night Live in nineteen

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Speaker 14: seventy six.

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Speaker 2: I was not born then, and neither were my parents.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they're getting a chance to hear it tonight.

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Speaker 2: There the song itself. If you listen to watch nothing

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Speaker 2: from the fiftieth anniversary, listen to this. She particularly is brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'll send my songs again, play the game and pretend.

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Speaker 11: But all.

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Speaker 3: That to me, she's met.

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Speaker 14: Aunt. I need someone to fruit me. WI share Wold,

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Speaker 14: Let's escape.

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Speaker 3: One music, explain solely, Please, solely, Fool.

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Speaker 14: Silently, Fool, super.

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Speaker 2: And I Love You, I Want You Sorry back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: from six Happy Guys.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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