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Speaker 1: So the inevitable has happened at Netball New Zealand following

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Speaker 1: the Dame Nolene Todo a drama. CEO Jenny Wiley has

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Speaker 1: resigned from her role, saying she's planning to focus on

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Speaker 1: family and look ahead to new opportunities. Cruiz tang Eda

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Speaker 1: is a former New Zealand men's netball captain and he's

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Speaker 1: close to many of the players and the Silver Ferns

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Speaker 1: and he's with us morning.

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Speaker 2: Cruise, good morning. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for being with us. Listen. It feels to

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Speaker 1: me like this had to happen.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, I think I would have

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Speaker 2: to agree with you, Heather. I think this has kind

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Speaker 2: of been a long time coming in terms of the

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Speaker 2: process that this has been through. I mean, it started

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Speaker 2: all the way back in January at the Sydney training

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Speaker 2: camp and it's taken until December for there to be

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Speaker 2: kind of rare resolve. Unfortunately, Nolan had to be kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, lose her job and her name kind of

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Speaker 2: tarnished in that process. But I think changing had to

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Speaker 2: happen in order to rebuild the reputation of netblew within

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how the player is going to feel about this,

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Speaker 1: because it does feel like one camp has beaten the

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Speaker 1: other camp, right, the camp being Dame Knowles's camp, has

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Speaker 1: beaten the players camp, which I would imagine Jenny was

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Speaker 1: part of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one percent. And it's interesting because you know,

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to a few of the girls and like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to set aside the whole incident that happened,

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Speaker 2: because I do believe there was probably some players that

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Speaker 2: did feel kind of, you know, not not treated respectfully

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better word. However, there was a massive,

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Speaker 2: massive divide between the players and obviously the coaching stuff,

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Speaker 2: and it's tough when you know those kind of common

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Speaker 2: aspirations don't aligne And I think with Nolan coming back now,

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Speaker 2: obviously she should be reinstad in next year. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of work has to go into just kind

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Speaker 2: of rebuilding the trust between the players and Noline and

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Speaker 2: getting back on board and everyone on the same page,

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Speaker 2: because of course there's a common Roth games coming middle

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six and they need to be on

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Speaker 2: board if they want to, you know, do well in

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Speaker 2: that competition.

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Speaker 1: I think Dame Knowles is actually going to end up

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Speaker 1: coaching the Silver Ferns Again.

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Speaker 2: I personally believe she will. I don't believe she would

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Speaker 2: have put up a mass of fact that she has

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Speaker 2: if she didn't feel like she would add more value

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Speaker 2: to this team. Yeah, as I just mentioned, I feel

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Speaker 2: like there's the trust has been severed between the playing

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Speaker 2: group and her, just based on everything that happened and

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Speaker 2: the process that the way that the process has been handled.

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Speaker 2: But I do believe she will come back. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think most of the Nipple public want her to

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Speaker 2: come back as well, given how much she's achieved and

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Speaker 2: within the Silver Ferns and just Nipple in general. But

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Speaker 2: it will take a long time to kind of get

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Speaker 2: back to that point where everyone is on the same

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Speaker 2: page and they have that common goal that they want

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Speaker 2: to striffle.

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Speaker 1: How much of the other problems like the decline of

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Speaker 1: the domestic league and the problems with the broadcast deal

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff can be laid at the feet

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Speaker 1: of Jenny as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean it takes a team

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Speaker 2: to kind of run a institution like Neple New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put the entire blame on her because it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not just her kind of managing these deals,

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Speaker 2: as other people on board as well. I think the

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Speaker 2: reputation that these kind of mishandles have added to it

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Speaker 2: has been quite severe. Like I don't think the reputation

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Speaker 2: of netball within New Zealand has been the best of

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Speaker 2: the last couple of months, pretty much a whole year

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Speaker 2: and now that we don't have a broadcast stale for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Yeah, as you mentioned, teams have been dropped. Well,

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Speaker 2: teams have pulled out, should I say, from the national

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Speaker 2: netble leg which is a huge pathway for young girls

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Speaker 2: coming through, particularly down in the Southland region. But I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't put the entire blame on her. Blame on her,

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Speaker 2: I think I do think it's like a team that

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Speaker 2: are kind of making these decisions. But yeah, a lot

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Speaker 2: of more if it needs to be done in order

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Speaker 2: to kind of regrow I guess that the growth and

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Speaker 2: the want of netble and New Zealand. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of young girls turn into the likes

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Speaker 2: of sevens and rugby because the opportunity is the better,

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Speaker 2: the pathways are clearer, and we can't lose more more

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Speaker 2: players to different codes around or sorry across New Zealing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cruz, it's good to talk to you. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. It's Chrus Tangead, a former New Zealand

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Speaker 1: men's men's netball captain and also a netball commentator.

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