1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: To the farmer where we have a new venture for 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: our wool industry which is exciting. It's a cross sector alliance. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: It's between four major organizations. The plan to live a 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: decent returns for a quote cornerstone of New Zealand's identity. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: John Monahan is the independent chair of this new wall 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: alliance and is with us. John morning, Good morning, Mike. 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: This strong wool story is an interesting and troubled one. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last few decades had been a traveling time 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: from the wall sector for an industry was one sort 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: of the backbone in New Zealand too. An industry is 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: almost limps are wrong today. 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: So what you want to do is generate greater demand, 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: lifting value and avoiding costing duplication, all of which is good. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Why now and more importantly how. 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: The four organizations have been working together for some time 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: and when you look at I came in and looked 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: at the industry some months ago. I've only been in 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: the role two months. But when you look at it, 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: it's very complex. There's a lot of duplication and there's 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: some obvious games to be made by cooperation. By having 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: one voice called the New Zealand Wall industry. So these 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: groups are working well together the prizes to have a 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: model in place that is market focused and will promote 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: New Zealand wool and eventually bring a lot better returns 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: back to the New zealandraft. 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: Is everyone equally invested? I mean one of the players's 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Beef and Lamber. Beef and Lamb interested in wool. 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Beef and Lamb joined up two weeks ago. Their remit 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: is for sheep, meat and beef. But no they have 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: a levy vote coming up in twenty twenty seven. We 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: thought it's very important we work alongside them because ultimately 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: farmers are going to have to back their own industry 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: with some form of levy. And it's good to be 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: working with Beef and Lamb and they are fully engaged 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: with us. 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: So how do you sell strong wall to a will 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't really want it anymore? Is it just carpets 39 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: or is it so much more than that? 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Right now, the price of wool is increasing substantial and 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: it's the same old It's a bit of a China 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: story because synthetics have been the biggest opposition to wool. 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: But we have a wonderful product here right now that 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: there's not a big inventory of war and I think 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: it's a natural product and the time is right. 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: So if you got the demand thing, so I've just 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: supplied demand. So so you're not into strong will at 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the moment because the market's no good. But if the 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: market did get good, would you suddenly run out of 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: people who are into strong wool and could supply. 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: I believe that it's very much the case. Recently, Minister 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Mark Patterson and more Impact were in China and they 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: see prices rising at auctions through until the Chinese New Year. 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: When you look beyond that, like when I know what 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: you pay for a jersey, right, but if you buy 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: a three hundred dollars jersey, the poor of gud is 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: probably only getting ten percent of that. I understand it 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: would only take a ten percent lift in a mid 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: range carpet to deliver one hundred percent higher return to 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: the gray on the farm. 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Wow, but people are people into conpets though. See look 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: at that Bremworth situation. Bremworth tried will it just didn't 63 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: work for them. 64 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah no, but there's lots of I've like I said, 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I'll the same once again. I've been on board for 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: two months. I've been very presently surprised on the upside 67 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: with the amount of innovation that's happening in the wall industry. 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: There are lots of niche things happen, but it's not 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: an industry answer. And that's what this venture is about. 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: What's your timeline? When do I get you back on here? 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: You give me some good news, tangible good. 72 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: News, tangible good news. Hope to have a model in 73 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: place by twenty twenty six, after grow our engagement and 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: other engagement, and have a fully funded model operating in 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. 76 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Fantastic. Go well, John, appreciate it, and I wish you 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: the best, John Monahan, who's the chair of the Wall Alliance. 78 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: And the very good news this morning is I will 79 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: be here in twenty twenty six and indeed in twenty 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven. And I'm not going to tell you what 81 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: I pay for a jersey, because you're just going to 82 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: go for more. From the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live 83 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or 84 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.