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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b This is not your weekend

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Speaker 1: off the right way. Saturday Morning with Jettam News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be.

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Speaker 3: Yellow in New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be Jeck time with you this Saturday morning, this

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Speaker 3: Easter Saturday morning, as we all hopefully put our feet

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Speaker 3: up and enjoy a few treats over the long weekend.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, I have crazy expensive our Easter three eggs

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Speaker 3: this year has not. I mean I know that that

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Speaker 3: Easter eggs probably only make up a tiny bit of

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Speaker 3: the consumer price in next I haven't actually checked with

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Speaker 3: Stats New Zealand to what extent Easter eggs contribute to

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Speaker 3: our overall inflation rate, but if they were just looking

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Speaker 3: at Easter eggs, I'd be worried. So before ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning, if you are looking to stretch the treats

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Speaker 3: a little bit this Eastern to elevate the treats a

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Speaker 3: little bit so you're not just relying on incredibly expensive

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Speaker 3: Easter eggs, we have the recipe for you, a delicious

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Speaker 3: Easter Rocky Road recipe as well of that we'll have

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Speaker 3: your film picks for the long weekend, including Robert Pattinson

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Speaker 3: and Zendaya starring together in the drama and then after

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Speaker 3: ten really really looking forward to this. If you're like me,

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Speaker 3: you will be a massive fan of the British panel shows.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about the Brits. I

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Speaker 3: just wonder if it goes back to the good old

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Speaker 3: days of the BBC Radio, like in the nineteen forties

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Speaker 3: or something like that. But they are the absolute masters

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Speaker 3: of the panel comedy shows. And Stephen k Amos is

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Speaker 3: one of the regulars whom I love on the likes

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Speaker 3: of QI and live at the Apollo. So he's going

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Speaker 3: to be with us after ten o'clock this morning because

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Speaker 3: he is making his way to New Zealand, so he's

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Speaker 3: going to tell us all about his brand new stand

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Speaker 3: up tour. Right now though it is nine minutes past nine.

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Speaker 4: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: So for my birthday this year, my wife went above

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Speaker 3: and beyond, as she so often does. I didn't want

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Speaker 3: a product, I didn't want a thing. I'm not really

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Speaker 3: interested in stuff, but for the last year of my thirties,

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Speaker 3: before the big day, I sort of casually dropped the

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Speaker 3: idea into conversation. How would you feel, I asked my

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Speaker 3: wife for my birthday this year. You took on all

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Speaker 3: of the family duties for a little bit, so I

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Speaker 3: can just duck off for a couple of nights in

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Speaker 3: the bush. Now, I'll admit to a bias, right, I

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Speaker 3: have spent more time in it than any other. But

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Speaker 3: I reckon the Kahurangi might be our best national park.

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Speaker 3: Although Fjordland National Park obviously boasts the mad of Milford,

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Speaker 3: doubtful and dusky sounds, and Abel Tasman has the golden

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Speaker 3: sand beaches. I just reckon between the Niko Groves meeting

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Speaker 3: the Tasman Sea and the true subalpine. I just reckon

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Speaker 3: that nothing can rival the Khudangi in terms of the

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Speaker 3: sheer variety of landscapes. And I was reminded of that

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Speaker 3: my brother and brother in law and we drove up

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Speaker 3: the Wangapeka River en route to climbing Mount Owen. So

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Speaker 3: we started at the spot called the Blue Creek Resurgence,

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Speaker 3: where beautiful, perfect clear water pores from the vast underground caves.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know what a resurgence is, it's basically

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Speaker 3: It's where it resurges or resurfaces. Not too far away

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Speaker 3: from the Blue Creek resurgence as the Crow flies as

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Speaker 3: the Pierce resurgence, where cave divers recently set an extraord

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Speaker 3: We dropped a couple of beers into the tarns just

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Speaker 3: a full eight hours In the morning, we left our

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Speaker 3: The views from the top were awesome, not just awesome

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Speaker 3: often in life. Are you ever in a time and

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Speaker 3: I've got to say for my birthday this year, my

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Speaker 3: wife absolutely nailed it. I walked out with burning quads

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Speaker 3: a gift.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, Jack team.

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Speaker 3: If you want to see a couple of picks from

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Speaker 3: up on our Facebook page this morning Jacktame dot com.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you through to our Facebook page. You can

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Speaker 3: have a bit of a look. It's yeah, it's quite remarkable.

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Speaker 3: up into those marthless kind of limestone cliffs. It's really

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Speaker 3: quite extraordinary. Coming up Bet fourteen o'clock this morning, we'll

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Speaker 3: catch up with our Sporto get his thoughts on that

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Speaker 3: incredible Crusaders send off for Apollo Stadium last night. Next

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Speaker 3: up Kevin Milne will get us underway for our Saturday

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Speaker 3: Morning to get it. If you want to flick me

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Speaker 3: a text, you know what to do. Ninety two ninety

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Speaker 3: a play. You can email me as well. Jacket Newstalk,

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Speaker 3: ZEDB dot co dot nz. It's quarter past nine.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 4: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talk, said b.

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Speaker 3: A teen minutes past nine on News Talks, he'd be

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Speaker 3: National Park tramping. Bloody good topic. I've got to say.

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Speaker 3: Jack just gets our eyes off all of the terrible,

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Speaker 3: depressing news from overseas, just for a moment. We did

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Speaker 3: the Great Barrier Island Tramp two weeks ago, two nights

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Speaker 3: at the huts and then spectacular views from Mount Hobbs

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Speaker 3: and the nights sky stars were jaw dropping. That's one

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Speaker 3: of the funny things a especially if you if you

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Speaker 3: a city and you have a clear night and you're like,

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 3: I've spent fifty eight years in this country, I've not

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Speaker 3: been into the bush except taking my daughter to the

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Speaker 3: mung To Pawpaul, Central North Island, and the odd mountain

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Speaker 3: trips and beach wanders. Your description, though, fills my mind

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Speaker 3: with the wonder of it all. My eyes are a

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Speaker 3: bit blurry, but not the imagination, says Harry and Jack.

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Speaker 3: You've made my day with your description of your trip

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Speaker 3: This country is stunning and beautiful, says Dianne. Thanks Diane.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two. Ninety two is the text number if you

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Speaker 3: z'b dot co dot NZED like I say, I've put

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Speaker 3: takeaway I would say, actually from tramping, given this was

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Speaker 3: lots of really good food. We thought, well, we could

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Speaker 3: I'll get to Mary text in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Milner's with us this morning, kiled Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Got it, Jack, It's a plenty old thing.

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Speaker 6: Actually, my daughter spent last night and I presume she's

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Speaker 6: not far from it. Now your dockhart on Mountdown. You're kidding, man, Yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 6: each other. Yeah, we should have actually just cut through

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Speaker 3: a great walk. And yet you know, on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: are kiwi's, there are people who are traveling from overseas.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see. I always always delighted to see

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Speaker 3: how many people enjoy, you know, getting out there and

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Speaker 3: you know, savoring. So hopefully Tommy's had some good weather

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Speaker 3: like we did, Kevin. But you were captivated by another

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Speaker 6: Well, what a thrill it was on Thursday to watch

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, have a great easter again, Kevin. We

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Speaker 3: be thank you for your messages this morning, get a Jack. Yes,

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Speaker 3: sporto Andrew Saville. And how about that for a farewell

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Speaker 3: at a polo stadium last night, My goodness, the Crusaders

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Speaker 8: Say Cody Taylor, Yes, good morning, Jack. Cody Taylor's won fiftieth.

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Speaker 8: They were hot favorites, but to put sixty points on

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, so we've got Chiefs Tars the scene, Chiefs.

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Speaker 8: That was just staggering. I've seen some seen some great

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Speaker 3: And hey, so where do you land Easter Sunday morning?

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Speaker 8: Well, mate, don't even I'm trying. Marshmallow is my enemy.

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Speaker 8: I've been chanting that all weekend. I don't even want

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Speaker 3: Well, even if you don't purchase anything. The thing about Easter,

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Speaker 3: Well, all the very best. Godspeed on that front. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time this morning. Sam Andrew savil Our Sporto

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Speaker 3: Good morning. So there's been a lot of hype about

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Speaker 3: I'll tell mine if we all do it, promise what

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Speaker 8: This?

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Speaker 3: Dun?

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Speaker 8: Dan?

434
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Speaker 3: I mean that is a tantalizing little Traylor, is it not?

435
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Speaker 11: And I'm not gonna I'm not going to tell you anything.

436
00:23:42,813 --> 00:23:44,733
Speaker 3: I was going to say, don't you dare.

437
00:23:45,013 --> 00:23:49,333
Speaker 11: Is because actually you want to try and work through

438
00:23:49,373 --> 00:23:53,093
Speaker 11: it with the characters as they're trying to work through it.

439
00:23:53,573 --> 00:23:56,053
Speaker 11: That's sort of the fun of this film. Sindia and

440
00:23:56,373 --> 00:23:59,653
Speaker 11: Robert Pattinson are really good together. I kind of couldn't

441
00:23:59,693 --> 00:24:02,613
Speaker 11: quite picture it, but they're really delightful. They've got this

442
00:24:02,893 --> 00:24:05,933
Speaker 11: very natural chemistry. This is the first time they've worked together,

443
00:24:05,973 --> 00:24:08,613
Speaker 11: but they're actually in three films together this year. They're

444
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:12,773
Speaker 11: also in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey and also Dune Part three,

445
00:24:12,813 --> 00:24:15,093
Speaker 11: which is out at the end of the year, so

446
00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:17,613
Speaker 11: they're really really love it together. Look this film, it

447
00:24:17,853 --> 00:24:22,013
Speaker 11: starts out as laugh out loud, funny and as it progresses,

448
00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:26,293
Speaker 11: it shifts to sort of a more cringe worthy, uncomfortable funny.

449
00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:30,373
Speaker 11: So they play these two characters, Emma and Charlie, and

450
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Speaker 11: it is the week of their wedding. They're just finalizing

451
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Speaker 11: the preparations, getting things sorted. I really liked the pacing

452
00:24:37,213 --> 00:24:40,093
Speaker 11: of this film. They kind of, you know, as they're

453
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Speaker 11: writing speeches, we have little sort of flashbacks to how

454
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Speaker 11: they met, so we get to know them. But it's

455
00:24:45,013 --> 00:24:47,533
Speaker 11: sharp and it's snappy, and we kind of get to

456
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Speaker 11: the point, which is this evening they have with their

457
00:24:51,173 --> 00:24:53,213
Speaker 11: some friends of theirs, this married couple, where they all

458
00:24:53,253 --> 00:24:55,813
Speaker 11: talk about the worst thing that they've done. And a

459
00:24:55,853 --> 00:24:57,813
Speaker 11: couple of them have done some quite bad things, but

460
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Speaker 11: nothing compared to what Zendea's character Emma kind of accidentally

461
00:25:02,453 --> 00:25:03,533
Speaker 11: drops on the table.

462
00:25:03,653 --> 00:25:04,453
Speaker 7: She'd had a few.

463
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Speaker 11: Wines and she admits to this thing, and it really

464
00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:13,973
Speaker 11: just changes everything, and it's very hard to everything from

465
00:25:13,973 --> 00:25:16,213
Speaker 11: every comment she makes to every action she does. You

466
00:25:16,293 --> 00:25:19,253
Speaker 11: now see her in a completely new context. And of

467
00:25:19,333 --> 00:25:23,613
Speaker 11: course Robert Pattinson's Charlotte character, Charlie has to work out

468
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Speaker 11: with actually, you know, do I know this person? Do

469
00:25:26,893 --> 00:25:28,933
Speaker 11: I al really want to marry this person. Do I

470
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Speaker 11: want to spend the rest of my life with this person? Also,

471
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Speaker 11: so it really looks at relationships. It looks at how

472
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Speaker 11: much you know, is love enough to kind of overcome

473
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Speaker 11: an obstacle and to forgive someone. And it also looks

474
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Speaker 11: at empathy and how much empathy we can have for

475
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Speaker 11: someone who might have made a mistake or almost made

476
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Speaker 11: a mistake, and how we can kind of see through

477
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Speaker 11: it. It's really look it's snappy, it's really clever, as I say,

478
00:25:52,573 --> 00:25:54,813
Speaker 11: life out loud, funny. At the beginning, I was really

479
00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:57,533
Speaker 11: enjoying it. Then it does get quite uncomfortable as the

480
00:25:57,573 --> 00:25:59,813
Speaker 11: intensity builds and we heap get to the wedding and

481
00:25:59,853 --> 00:26:02,093
Speaker 11: it all kind of falls up. I spent a bit

482
00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,693
Speaker 11: of time wondering how else they might have resolved this film,

483
00:26:05,733 --> 00:26:08,973
Speaker 11: because the question composed and it is quite hard to resolve.

484
00:26:09,573 --> 00:26:11,653
Speaker 11: And I think they've left it. I think they've done

485
00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,813
Speaker 11: a nice job of it and leaving it maybe in

486
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Speaker 11: a way that you can.

487
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Speaker 5: Use your own.

488
00:26:17,213 --> 00:26:19,453
Speaker 11: It's a little bit ambiguous. You could maybe decide for

489
00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,893
Speaker 11: yourself how you would like things to kind of pan out.

490
00:26:21,933 --> 00:26:24,213
Speaker 11: But no, it's it's really great. It's a bit different.

491
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Speaker 11: I mean, it's a it's a rom com and it's

492
00:26:26,413 --> 00:26:29,733
Speaker 11: a drama ed and it's a dark black comedy. It's

493
00:26:29,773 --> 00:26:32,733
Speaker 11: a psychological sort of thriller at the same time, it's

494
00:26:32,733 --> 00:26:34,933
Speaker 11: a little bit of everything. No, really clever thought it

495
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Speaker 11: was great.

496
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Speaker 3: Okay, it sounds really good. I was gonna say it

497
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Speaker 3: does sound dark without having it feels like there's a

498
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Speaker 3: dark secret here.

499
00:26:43,093 --> 00:26:46,693
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And there is some controversy around it because the

500
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Speaker 11: secret is something which people don't really feel should be

501
00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:53,093
Speaker 11: a gimmick in a romantic comedy. But I think it's

502
00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:56,093
Speaker 11: dealt with in a manner that we all understand the

503
00:26:56,173 --> 00:26:59,013
Speaker 11: seriousness of it. So there is a bit of controversy

504
00:26:59,053 --> 00:26:59,493
Speaker 11: around it.

505
00:27:00,853 --> 00:27:02,613
Speaker 3: Even the way you've talked about it just makes me

506
00:27:02,653 --> 00:27:05,733
Speaker 3: so intrigue. Now, I know, I know. It's everything I

507
00:27:05,773 --> 00:27:07,373
Speaker 3: can do not to go and google it. I'm not

508
00:27:07,413 --> 00:27:10,893
Speaker 3: going to, but you know what I mean, like, no, no,

509
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:12,653
Speaker 3: I won't, I won't won't anything.

510
00:27:12,733 --> 00:27:15,213
Speaker 11: And it's my advice to listeners as well, do not

511
00:27:15,253 --> 00:27:16,253
Speaker 11: read anything more about this.

512
00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:17,653
Speaker 4: Just yeah, you know.

513
00:27:17,933 --> 00:27:21,213
Speaker 3: It's great, Yeah, don't check it out. Very good Okay, cool.

514
00:27:21,253 --> 00:27:23,853
Speaker 3: So that is the drama that is showing in Cinemas

515
00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:27,213
Speaker 3: at the Moment, starring Robert Pattinson and Zendaya. Next up,

516
00:27:27,253 --> 00:27:29,853
Speaker 3: let's have a listened to a film streaming on Disney Plus.

517
00:27:29,893 --> 00:27:32,173
Speaker 3: This is Mike, Nick, Nick and Alice.

518
00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:38,253
Speaker 5: I'm you, but I'm from the future. They came back

519
00:27:38,333 --> 00:27:42,493
Speaker 5: and a time machine. Certainly and I understand, obviously.

520
00:27:46,253 --> 00:27:48,133
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a little bit different.

521
00:27:49,813 --> 00:27:52,613
Speaker 11: This is a film that really shouldn't work on paper,

522
00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:55,213
Speaker 11: and look, it probably only just works on screen thanks

523
00:27:55,213 --> 00:27:58,013
Speaker 11: to the charisma of its stars. It's a gangster flick.

524
00:27:58,253 --> 00:28:00,133
Speaker 11: I think it's sort of set around the nineteen nineties,

525
00:28:00,653 --> 00:28:04,773
Speaker 11: but it's also it's also a sci fi film that

526
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:08,213
Speaker 11: involves time travel, and it's a comedy, and it's an

527
00:28:08,213 --> 00:28:11,533
Speaker 11: action film, and it's a little bit nuts. So we

528
00:28:11,613 --> 00:28:15,133
Speaker 11: follow a couple of hitmen. Turns out one of them,

529
00:28:15,333 --> 00:28:18,533
Speaker 11: Mike played by James Marsden, is having an affair with

530
00:28:18,613 --> 00:28:21,693
Speaker 11: his partner, Nick's wife, Nick is played by Vince Vaughn.

531
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Speaker 11: He's having an affair with his wife Alice played by

532
00:28:25,173 --> 00:28:31,213
Speaker 11: Isaa Gonzales. Now the Boys Boss, sort of mafia like boss.

533
00:28:31,293 --> 00:28:33,493
Speaker 11: He is celebrating the release of his son from prison,

534
00:28:33,533 --> 00:28:35,813
Speaker 11: and to celebrate he's decided he is going to take

535
00:28:35,853 --> 00:28:38,253
Speaker 11: out the person who sent his son to prison, and

536
00:28:38,293 --> 00:28:40,853
Speaker 11: it turns out that Mike is being set up and

537
00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:42,893
Speaker 11: being held responsible for this, so that there is a

538
00:28:42,973 --> 00:28:46,493
Speaker 11: hip man on the way to take out Mike. Nick, though,

539
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:48,733
Speaker 11: decides to step in and help out. But not just

540
00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:52,253
Speaker 11: one Nick. There are two Nicks. Hence the time travel

541
00:28:52,293 --> 00:28:56,373
Speaker 11: comes into play. It's bonkers, it's really quite it's really

542
00:28:56,453 --> 00:28:59,213
Speaker 11: quite nuts. So there's a lot of Vince Baughn in

543
00:28:59,213 --> 00:29:02,133
Speaker 11: this film. There's two Vince Baorn's. He plays two characters,

544
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:05,253
Speaker 11: and he is very much playing He's very much acting

545
00:29:05,293 --> 00:29:07,933
Speaker 11: in the way that we always expect him to. It's

546
00:29:08,093 --> 00:29:10,173
Speaker 11: kind of you know, I don't know if you've sick

547
00:29:10,213 --> 00:29:12,453
Speaker 11: got apple, but he's in a show called Bad Monkey,

548
00:29:13,093 --> 00:29:15,293
Speaker 11: and it's the most it's the best performance I've seen

549
00:29:15,293 --> 00:29:17,893
Speaker 11: from him in a long time. His sort of his character,

550
00:29:17,933 --> 00:29:21,173
Speaker 11: in his way of acting, really fitted that that show

551
00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:23,373
Speaker 11: and that character, and he's brilliant this it's just a

552
00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:25,773
Speaker 11: little bit more typical Vince Vaughn having fun in an

553
00:29:25,893 --> 00:29:30,773
Speaker 11: action comedy. But look along with James Marsden and Isaac Gonzalez,

554
00:29:30,813 --> 00:29:33,213
Speaker 11: so the three of them are really fun together. So

555
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:36,573
Speaker 11: if you want something breezy and easy to watch over Easter,

556
00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:39,253
Speaker 11: and you've got Disney Plus once again. A little bit

557
00:29:39,333 --> 00:29:42,013
Speaker 11: like the previous film I spoke about. It's a real

558
00:29:42,253 --> 00:29:45,453
Speaker 11: mix of genres. It's a romantic comedy, a comedy against

559
00:29:45,453 --> 00:29:47,853
Speaker 11: a film, a crime flip in a time travel film.

560
00:29:48,213 --> 00:29:50,733
Speaker 11: So yeah, have you want something a little fun that's.

561
00:29:50,573 --> 00:29:51,853
Speaker 3: A real trend at the moment.

562
00:29:52,853 --> 00:29:54,293
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and look if you can, if you can

563
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:54,693
Speaker 11: do it.

564
00:29:54,613 --> 00:29:58,373
Speaker 3: Well yeah, right for sure. But the kind of mooley

565
00:29:58,413 --> 00:30:01,293
Speaker 3: mash of genres where you're like, oh, it's both like

566
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:06,093
Speaker 3: a you know, a horror and a seventeenth century period

567
00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:11,013
Speaker 3: drama and uh, you know, like in a children's comedy,

568
00:30:11,173 --> 00:30:16,613
Speaker 3: Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's quite good.

569
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Speaker 3: I like that, you know. I like the filmmakers don't

570
00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:22,333
Speaker 3: necessarily feel pigeonholed.

571
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Speaker 5: You know.

572
00:30:22,373 --> 00:30:24,253
Speaker 3: And maybe it's maybe there's another way to look at it,

573
00:30:24,293 --> 00:30:25,573
Speaker 3: and you could say they're trying to be everything to

574
00:30:25,653 --> 00:30:28,333
Speaker 3: everyone at once, you know, But yeah, I like that

575
00:30:28,373 --> 00:30:30,293
Speaker 3: sounds quite good. I like the sound of it. So

576
00:30:30,373 --> 00:30:33,973
Speaker 3: that is Mike Nick, Nick and Ellis. That's on Disney Plus.

577
00:30:34,053 --> 00:30:37,213
Speaker 3: Francesca's first film for Us, This Morning, is shown in cinemas.

578
00:30:37,653 --> 00:30:41,373
Speaker 3: That's the drama, and honestly, I really think I'm gonna

579
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,253
Speaker 3: have to go and see that, if only to resolve

580
00:30:43,973 --> 00:30:46,533
Speaker 3: what this big secret might be. I'm going to get

581
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Speaker 3: to more of your feedback in a couple of minutes

582
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Speaker 3: on news talks. Heb right now. It's called it a ten.

583
00:30:51,093 --> 00:30:54,893
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

584
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Speaker 1: the weekend US Talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be their.

586
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Speaker 3: Team minutes to ten on News Talks, he'd be Jack

587
00:30:59,813 --> 00:31:02,973
Speaker 3: absolutely loved your description of going tramping and the Cahudangi

588
00:31:03,093 --> 00:31:07,013
Speaker 3: National Park. I have done the heafy I walked from

589
00:31:07,173 --> 00:31:11,093
Speaker 3: the northern end and have to agree with your comments

590
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:14,213
Speaker 3: regarding the variety of landscapes. Amazing that you can see

591
00:31:14,213 --> 00:31:17,053
Speaker 3: such variety in a relatively small space. Yes, so I

592
00:31:17,053 --> 00:31:20,253
Speaker 3: think the code on you might be our largest national park.

593
00:31:20,293 --> 00:31:22,893
Speaker 3: I think fairly confident is our largest national park in

594
00:31:22,973 --> 00:31:28,373
Speaker 3: terms of actual size, certainly up there. Jack absolutely delighted

595
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:32,093
Speaker 3: in your story about tramping with your friends. On News Talks,

596
00:31:32,093 --> 00:31:34,693
Speaker 3: he'd be this morning. I think you've hit on something

597
00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:36,973
Speaker 3: when you say that you notice as you get older

598
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:39,973
Speaker 3: how much more you enjoy the birds, how much you

599
00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:43,813
Speaker 3: enjoy things like the old gold mining equipment. I think

600
00:31:43,853 --> 00:31:47,973
Speaker 3: it's an antidote to this fast paced world social media, etc.

601
00:31:48,493 --> 00:31:51,653
Speaker 3: When you can stop, pause and be reflective. Perhaps that's

602
00:31:51,693 --> 00:31:54,453
Speaker 3: what you're enjoying. I think you're onto something there. Twelve

603
00:31:54,453 --> 00:31:56,773
Speaker 3: minutes to ten, Nicky Wicks Cook is here with a

604
00:31:56,853 --> 00:32:00,653
Speaker 3: fantastic sounding Easter treat for us this morning Kelder Nikki.

605
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:01,973
Speaker 8: Killed a Jack.

606
00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:06,893
Speaker 12: I also loved listening to that tramping story because I

607
00:32:06,933 --> 00:32:09,733
Speaker 12: didn't enjoy the route boot quite as much Time made

608
00:32:09,773 --> 00:32:14,253
Speaker 12: it sound. I mean, I you know, it feels as

609
00:32:14,253 --> 00:32:17,173
Speaker 12: though it's a childbirth story for me, where it's getting

610
00:32:17,213 --> 00:32:21,253
Speaker 12: better the longer the longer that the longer the time

611
00:32:21,333 --> 00:32:25,133
Speaker 12: goes between having done the tramp. But honestly, that was hard,

612
00:32:25,293 --> 00:32:27,373
Speaker 12: and I remember we talked about it before I went,

613
00:32:28,493 --> 00:32:31,213
Speaker 12: but it was hard work for me. It was hard yacker.

614
00:32:31,773 --> 00:32:34,573
Speaker 12: But the pride is starting to overcome the shop.

615
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:35,973
Speaker 5: I actually had to do that.

616
00:32:36,573 --> 00:32:38,893
Speaker 3: See, I think that's for me too. And my wife

617
00:32:38,893 --> 00:32:41,333
Speaker 3: actually goes one step further. She thinks that my life

618
00:32:41,333 --> 00:32:43,573
Speaker 3: has been so cushy. These are her words. My life

619
00:32:43,573 --> 00:32:45,773
Speaker 3: has been so cushy that I need to suffer in

620
00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:48,573
Speaker 3: order to feel any sense of satisfaction, I have to

621
00:32:48,573 --> 00:32:51,653
Speaker 3: create suffering for myself. That's what she said. Probably that's

622
00:32:51,733 --> 00:32:52,453
Speaker 3: probably true.

623
00:32:52,453 --> 00:32:54,293
Speaker 11: Your wife is probably right about that.

624
00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:56,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, this sort of something I'm like, is it a

625
00:32:56,613 --> 00:32:58,013
Speaker 3: good thing or a bad thing?

626
00:32:58,333 --> 00:32:58,533
Speaker 5: Yeah?

627
00:32:59,493 --> 00:33:02,093
Speaker 12: All right, well I'll I'll start pegging back my eye.

628
00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:04,253
Speaker 12: Will I never need to go that far into the

629
00:33:04,253 --> 00:33:07,333
Speaker 12: wilderness again, exactly story, And I'll start pigging that back

630
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:10,853
Speaker 12: because you made it sound so glorious and so romantic.

631
00:33:11,213 --> 00:33:13,773
Speaker 12: And yes I did have all those feelings, but I

632
00:33:13,773 --> 00:33:15,493
Speaker 12: didn't know them at the time because I was just.

633
00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:17,293
Speaker 5: So so exhausted.

634
00:33:16,773 --> 00:33:18,053
Speaker 3: Because focused on the page.

635
00:33:18,053 --> 00:33:21,893
Speaker 12: Anyway, Yeah, yeah, yes, it is a mind game. Tramping

636
00:33:22,173 --> 00:33:24,373
Speaker 12: look East is a bit of a mind game too,

637
00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:25,813
Speaker 12: And I think I was just thinking.

638
00:33:25,853 --> 00:33:26,493
Speaker 3: I think this.

639
00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:29,493
Speaker 12: Recipe is for those of you out there who thought,

640
00:33:29,613 --> 00:33:32,453
Speaker 12: I'm not buying chocolate this year, Easter eggs. I'm going

641
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:34,333
Speaker 12: to be good and I'm not going to have treats.

642
00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,973
Speaker 12: But now you're melting with your resolves melting, and you're

643
00:33:37,973 --> 00:33:39,413
Speaker 12: suddenly like, I actually do.

644
00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:40,773
Speaker 4: Want lots of chocolate.

645
00:33:40,813 --> 00:33:43,493
Speaker 12: Tree, So this is my Easter rocky road, and you'll

646
00:33:43,493 --> 00:33:45,213
Speaker 12: be able to get most of this at your local

647
00:33:45,293 --> 00:33:48,653
Speaker 12: dairy I suspect. So it's super simple, and it's really

648
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Speaker 12: in a couple of hours because it's you know, you

649
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Speaker 12: can pop it in the freezer to make it set.

650
00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:54,773
Speaker 12: Makes a sort of a big chunk of it, a

651
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Speaker 12: big slab about twenty by twenty centimeters line of baking

652
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Speaker 12: baking tray or something a little a baking dish with

653
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Speaker 12: baking paper.

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Speaker 1: Melt.

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Speaker 12: Two hundred grams of dark chocolate and two hundred grams

656
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Speaker 12: of milk chocolate. I do that the old fashioned way,

657
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:10,013
Speaker 12: just in a pot on a really low heat. I've

658
00:34:10,093 --> 00:34:12,613
Speaker 12: chopped the chocolate up, and if you put fifty grams

659
00:34:12,613 --> 00:34:15,053
Speaker 12: of butter with it and one tablespoon of golden syrup

660
00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:18,853
Speaker 12: or maple syrup, it stops it doing what chocolate sometimes does,

661
00:34:18,893 --> 00:34:21,933
Speaker 12: which is seas when it gets it's warm. But if

662
00:34:21,973 --> 00:34:23,733
Speaker 12: you put the butter in the syrup and it won't,

663
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Speaker 12: so that you've got a lovely, shiny, shiny melted chocolate.

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Speaker 12: Brew with melted chocolate. Stir in the following, and this

665
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Speaker 12: is what makes it into the lovely rocky road. One

666
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Speaker 12: hundred grams of roasted almonds. I sometimes use those Tamari

667
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Speaker 12: almonds too, Jack, which I just think, God, you get

668
00:34:39,653 --> 00:34:43,053
Speaker 12: this lovely wicked kind of tamari sauce that's salty in there,

669
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Speaker 12: which is lovely. Half a cup of chopped dried apricots

670
00:34:46,173 --> 00:34:47,973
Speaker 12: you could use some other you know, you could use

671
00:34:47,973 --> 00:34:50,933
Speaker 12: figs if you want it, or even prunes, and then

672
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Speaker 12: one cup of chopped marshmallow eggs or marshmallows, either one

673
00:34:55,133 --> 00:34:58,333
Speaker 12: in there, and I just you know, mix all of

674
00:34:58,373 --> 00:35:01,213
Speaker 12: that together and scrape that into your dish, smooth the

675
00:35:01,253 --> 00:35:03,093
Speaker 12: top as much as you can. And then if you've

676
00:35:03,093 --> 00:35:06,173
Speaker 12: got some other mini eggs. I love those little colorful ones,

677
00:35:06,773 --> 00:35:09,853
Speaker 12: all the little caramelo ones, and you can just chop

678
00:35:09,893 --> 00:35:11,813
Speaker 12: those up and pour though and put you know, scatter

679
00:35:11,853 --> 00:35:14,613
Speaker 12: them over the top and it'll be ready. Chill it

680
00:35:14,653 --> 00:35:16,773
Speaker 12: for sort of two to three hours or overnight until

681
00:35:16,773 --> 00:35:20,053
Speaker 12: it's set, cut it into squares, and it's just divine.

682
00:35:20,253 --> 00:35:22,173
Speaker 12: It is so good because you get to use good

683
00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:25,453
Speaker 12: quality chocolate in this were sometimes our Easter eggs are

684
00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:29,253
Speaker 12: not the best quality. And yeah, so this is great

685
00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:31,093
Speaker 12: easter Rocky Road and the other one. If you can't

686
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Speaker 12: be bothered doing any of that, go and buy yourself

687
00:35:33,373 --> 00:35:37,213
Speaker 12: one of those long sort of cellophane I think there

688
00:35:37,213 --> 00:35:39,653
Speaker 12: are six marshmallow eggs, and then there are they only

689
00:35:39,693 --> 00:35:41,973
Speaker 12: do a half egg. Now even Jacket's so disgusting. They

690
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:44,013
Speaker 12: don't even join the dew together. But pop them in

691
00:35:44,013 --> 00:35:46,373
Speaker 12: the freezer. Do yourself a treat. Prop them in the freezer,

692
00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:49,573
Speaker 12: and then eat them frozen. Oh my goodness, you cannot

693
00:35:49,573 --> 00:35:50,453
Speaker 12: believe how good they are.

694
00:35:50,573 --> 00:35:52,013
Speaker 3: So the marshmallow ones you.

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00:35:55,293 --> 00:35:56,693
Speaker 12: Like, yeah, you put them in. You put them in

696
00:35:56,693 --> 00:35:59,213
Speaker 12: the freezer, and honestly, the chocolate then cracks as you

697
00:35:59,293 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 12: crunch into it. Marshmallow never quite freezes all the way through,

698
00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:06,893
Speaker 12: so it's sort of chewy. Oh so much than having

699
00:36:06,893 --> 00:36:07,333
Speaker 12: them fresh.

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Speaker 3: So that I mean, this is shocking to me that

701
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Speaker 3: you've got a chocolate eating tip that I wasn't already

702
00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:16,693
Speaker 3: a weary This is a great information, okay, yeah yeah,

703
00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:19,213
Speaker 3: But of experimentation outdoors.

704
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Speaker 12: As you get older, you can enjoy these little tips too.

705
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the other thing my wife also says

706
00:36:23,893 --> 00:36:27,253
Speaker 3: that's going tramping is just an excuse to like eat

707
00:36:27,453 --> 00:36:32,013
Speaker 3: copious amounts of pecking mix and lollies and all of that. Yeah.

708
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Speaker 12: Look, I made the mistake of doing that. We talked

709
00:36:34,613 --> 00:36:36,853
Speaker 12: about what food to take and I didn't take the

710
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:39,253
Speaker 12: right food. I tried to do the trampe stuff plus

711
00:36:39,253 --> 00:36:41,573
Speaker 12: the musley bars and all that, but I don't eat

712
00:36:41,653 --> 00:36:44,133
Speaker 12: stuff like that. So in the car on the way

713
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:46,213
Speaker 12: back from Glen Orkie, once we'd come out, I said

714
00:36:46,213 --> 00:36:49,213
Speaker 12: to my two vegetarian sisters of my dad, I said,

715
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Speaker 12: next time, you know what I'm going to take.

716
00:36:50,573 --> 00:36:51,573
Speaker 5: I'm going to take a big.

717
00:36:51,413 --> 00:36:54,173
Speaker 12: Slab of bacon and egg pie. And I reckon, that's

718
00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:55,533
Speaker 12: going to last me the whole time.

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Speaker 3: I reckon, that's a very good option. Yeah, I reckon.

720
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that in the salami. You put me onto the

721
00:37:00,413 --> 00:37:01,493
Speaker 12: salami and that was great.

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Speaker 3: That'll get you through all they need a bit of

723
00:37:03,173 --> 00:37:08,373
Speaker 3: sugary stuff. Yeah, Hey, thank you so much, Nicky. We'll

724
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Speaker 3: make sure that recipe for Nicky's Easter Rocky Road is

725
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Speaker 3: up at Newstalk's headb dot co dot NZ. We're back

726
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Speaker 3: in a couple of minutes. Right now, it's seven to.

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Speaker 1: Ten, giving you the inside scoop on all you need

728
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Speaker 1: to know Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks dB.

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Speaker 3: After ten o'clock on News Talks, he'db our feature interview

730
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Speaker 3: this Saturday Morning is Stephen k Amos you'll know Stephen

731
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Speaker 3: from the Amazing British panel shows. He seems to there's

732
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Speaker 3: sort of like the comedians sort of go through each

733
00:37:38,653 --> 00:37:41,333
Speaker 3: of the different shows over time, so they appear on

734
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Speaker 3: lots of different ones. He's been on QI a few

735
00:37:43,253 --> 00:37:45,933
Speaker 3: times Live at the Apollo. He's a real character and

736
00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:47,453
Speaker 3: he is making his way to New Zealand for the

737
00:37:47,493 --> 00:37:50,733
Speaker 3: first time at ages. He's also just one of those

738
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Speaker 3: stand up comedians who seems to have endured and seems

739
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Speaker 3: to have a kind of cross generational appeal. He's kind

740
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Speaker 3: of hit the sweet spot in that sense. So I'm

741
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Speaker 3: going to ask him about that. He'll be with us

742
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Speaker 3: right after the news as well as that. We've got

743
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Speaker 3: your screen time picks for this weekend. And you know

744
00:38:07,173 --> 00:38:10,733
Speaker 3: how Australia is the first country to introduce a social

745
00:38:10,773 --> 00:38:14,133
Speaker 3: media band for under sixteen year olds. Will they have

746
00:38:14,293 --> 00:38:18,773
Speaker 3: their first report card of sorts. It's giving us a

747
00:38:18,773 --> 00:38:22,173
Speaker 3: bit of an insight as to how effective the band

748
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Speaker 3: has been, whether or not the kids are getting around it,

749
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Speaker 3: and whether or not the social media platform should actually

750
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Speaker 3: be doing more. So, our texpert's going to be here

751
00:38:30,493 --> 00:38:33,293
Speaker 3: very shortly to give us the key lines from that.

752
00:38:33,453 --> 00:38:35,053
Speaker 3: Let us know how the Aussies are going and whether

753
00:38:35,133 --> 00:38:37,173
Speaker 3: or not we should be introducing a similar band here.

754
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Speaker 3: News is next. It's almost ten o'clock. I'm Jack Taye.

755
00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:41,933
Speaker 3: It's Saturday Morning. This is News Talk.

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Speaker 1: Zedb's cranking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with

757
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Speaker 1: Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Be in a good morning. You were Jack Tame on

759
00:39:15,973 --> 00:39:20,453
Speaker 3: Newstalks hed be this Easter Saturday Morning. Stephen k Amos

760
00:39:20,453 --> 00:39:23,773
Speaker 3: does the talking so we can do the laughing. You'll

761
00:39:23,773 --> 00:39:27,413
Speaker 3: have seen him on his regular spots on UK TV

762
00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:31,613
Speaker 3: shows like Live at the Apollo and QI my favorite

763
00:39:31,693 --> 00:39:33,893
Speaker 3: of the British panel shows, and right now Stevens in

764
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Speaker 3: Australia out on the festival circuit before heading our way

765
00:39:37,173 --> 00:39:40,853
Speaker 3: in May with his new show Deconstructing the Science of

766
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Speaker 3: Laughter and Steven's with us this morning. Cald A, good.

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Speaker 5: Morning, Good morning Jack. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's so good to be speaking with you. I have

769
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Speaker 3: very much enjoyed your contributions to British panel shows over

770
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:55,893
Speaker 3: the years. I'm a real British panel show geek. So

771
00:39:56,693 --> 00:39:58,453
Speaker 3: it is a delight to know you're coming back to

772
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Speaker 3: New Zealand and you're coming back with a brand new

773
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Speaker 3: show that deconstructs the science of laughter. So tell us

774
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Speaker 3: about that.

775
00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:09,333
Speaker 13: Well, that is an element of the show that's absolutely,

776
00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:14,853
Speaker 13: absolutely true. I was asked in New Zealand good few

777
00:40:14,933 --> 00:40:17,933
Speaker 13: years ago now, so I'm absolutely thrilled to be coming

778
00:40:17,973 --> 00:40:20,813
Speaker 13: back after all this time. I've got friends who live

779
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Speaker 13: in the South Island, a place called Picton.

780
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Speaker 3: Oh very good. It's not my aunt lives in that

781
00:40:26,493 --> 00:40:28,133
Speaker 3: part of the world, so maybe you're bumma to her.

782
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Speaker 5: Maybe I will. There's not many people live there.

783
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Speaker 13: So yeah, the show is called now We're Talking, And

784
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Speaker 13: basically that is one of the elements in the show,

785
00:40:37,093 --> 00:40:39,493
Speaker 13: where I'm talking about what laughter does to our brains

786
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Speaker 13: and our body, how very important it is to have

787
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Speaker 13: people sitting close together at any kind of comedy show

788
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Speaker 13: because we.

789
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Speaker 5: Need you all to be infected with laughter.

790
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Speaker 13: And then I talk about how it's important for us

791
00:40:51,453 --> 00:40:53,813
Speaker 13: to keep talking in a world where there's a lot

792
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Speaker 13: of noise out there and people aren't listing enough.

793
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Speaker 5: So that's the essence of the show.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, the world has changed a lot.

795
00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:01,773
Speaker 3: I looked at up you were last in New Zealand

796
00:41:01,813 --> 00:41:03,893
Speaker 3: and twenty sixteen, so it feels like there's probably a

797
00:41:03,933 --> 00:41:05,973
Speaker 3: fear bit of content that you'll be able to draw upon,

798
00:41:06,093 --> 00:41:09,213
Speaker 3: given the state of the extent to which the world

799
00:41:09,493 --> 00:41:13,093
Speaker 3: has changed in that time. So when I think of laughter,

800
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Speaker 3: I think you hit on a really important point there.

801
00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:19,373
Speaker 3: There's a social component, isn't there. Because if you're watching

802
00:41:19,413 --> 00:41:23,533
Speaker 3: a TV show by yourself, even if it's really funny,

803
00:41:23,573 --> 00:41:25,933
Speaker 3: most of the time you don't laugh. But if you

804
00:41:25,973 --> 00:41:27,973
Speaker 3: have another person sitting next to you on the couch,

805
00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:30,653
Speaker 3: then for some reason you laugh. I don't know why

806
00:41:30,733 --> 00:41:31,853
Speaker 3: is it.

807
00:41:31,853 --> 00:41:37,013
Speaker 13: It's something to do with the human connection, the mirror neuron.

808
00:41:37,173 --> 00:41:40,573
Speaker 13: You see somebody laugh, you laugh. Is a shared experience

809
00:41:40,853 --> 00:41:42,933
Speaker 13: and on your own. I suppose people don't want to

810
00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:45,613
Speaker 13: look odd if they're just sitting behinde themselves and then

811
00:41:45,853 --> 00:41:48,933
Speaker 13: go fororing like a bit of a lunatic. But it

812
00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:51,653
Speaker 13: is good for the soul. I mean, even if you

813
00:41:51,693 --> 00:41:55,253
Speaker 13: just walk down the street and you hear somebody laughing uproariously,

814
00:41:55,453 --> 00:41:57,773
Speaker 13: you've got no idea what they're laughing at. You start

815
00:41:57,853 --> 00:42:00,693
Speaker 13: laughing as well. I mean, that's wonderful. I mean I

816
00:42:00,773 --> 00:42:03,453
Speaker 13: don't remember back in the day, there's be a song

817
00:42:03,533 --> 00:42:09,493
Speaker 13: by the Laughing Policeman which is when and it just

818
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:12,733
Speaker 13: went on and on, and then suddenly the entire people

819
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Speaker 13: in the room are laughing.

820
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Speaker 5: We don't know why.

821
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Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I remember seeing an amazing short film once.

822
00:42:19,053 --> 00:42:22,373
Speaker 3: It might have been German or might have been scanning Avy,

823
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,373
Speaker 3: and I can't remember exactly where it was from. And

824
00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:27,173
Speaker 3: it was the simplest concept, but it was beautifully done.

825
00:42:27,173 --> 00:42:30,413
Speaker 3: It was people sitting on a train carriage and one

826
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Speaker 3: person and they're all just sitting there in silence, looking

827
00:42:32,613 --> 00:42:34,133
Speaker 3: at their phones and looking out the window and that

828
00:42:34,213 --> 00:42:37,373
Speaker 3: kind of thing. And then one person just starts sniggering

829
00:42:37,413 --> 00:42:40,133
Speaker 3: a little bit, and then it starts to spread. And

830
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:44,213
Speaker 3: all this film was was this this scene on a

831
00:42:44,253 --> 00:42:48,613
Speaker 3: train carriage where over three or four minutes, the laughter

832
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:52,533
Speaker 3: spread throughout the train carriage and it was actually, it

833
00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:54,853
Speaker 3: was actually truly beautiful. It sounds kind of it might

834
00:42:54,893 --> 00:42:57,653
Speaker 3: sound a bit corny the way I'm describing it, but

835
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Speaker 3: you could imagine it happening, right, you could. You know,

836
00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:03,733
Speaker 3: there is something profoundly infectious about it.

837
00:43:04,213 --> 00:43:06,373
Speaker 13: Absolutely, But also in the same way you can imagine

838
00:43:06,413 --> 00:43:09,373
Speaker 13: if someone comes into a room saying a party and

839
00:43:09,413 --> 00:43:14,093
Speaker 13: that person has just brought with them negative energy, You

840
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:18,653
Speaker 13: feel that as well, somebody grumping, making noises and not

841
00:43:18,773 --> 00:43:21,493
Speaker 13: looking happy, and you avoid eye contact with that person.

842
00:43:21,973 --> 00:43:25,373
Speaker 13: Somebody comes into the room with a cheery disposition. Wow,

843
00:43:25,453 --> 00:43:26,613
Speaker 13: you're drawn to that person.

844
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Speaker 5: It's great.

845
00:43:27,613 --> 00:43:29,653
Speaker 13: And you know it's a cliche, but laughter is the

846
00:43:29,693 --> 00:43:31,373
Speaker 13: best medicine. Yeah, it absolutely is.

847
00:43:31,493 --> 00:43:33,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I totally agree with that. It's the beast medicine.

848
00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:35,973
Speaker 3: And it's the universal language, which I suppose when you're

849
00:43:35,973 --> 00:43:37,933
Speaker 3: making I appreciate it's not the full show, but when

850
00:43:37,973 --> 00:43:40,973
Speaker 3: it's a component on the show, you can be relatively

851
00:43:42,013 --> 00:43:45,213
Speaker 3: assured that there is a subject that is going to

852
00:43:45,653 --> 00:43:48,213
Speaker 3: cross international lines pretty pretty smoothly.

853
00:43:49,613 --> 00:43:51,973
Speaker 13: Well, indeed, it doesn't matter where you are, where you

854
00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:54,173
Speaker 13: come from. If you think about this on a basic

855
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:58,333
Speaker 13: human level. Babies learn to laugh before they can speak.

856
00:43:58,773 --> 00:44:00,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that.

857
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Speaker 13: It's incredible when you just break it right down, that's

858
00:44:04,093 --> 00:44:06,333
Speaker 13: what it is. One of the oldest jokes in human

859
00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:09,573
Speaker 13: history is, of course, peekaboo that you do with your babies.

860
00:44:09,613 --> 00:44:13,013
Speaker 13: Who's there, Daddy's there, and your babies starts howling.

861
00:44:13,213 --> 00:44:13,533
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:15,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good point. I've got a one

863
00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:17,333
Speaker 3: year old at the moment, and he's just at that

864
00:44:17,453 --> 00:44:20,933
Speaker 3: delightful stage where Peekaboo is an enormous hit and I

865
00:44:20,973 --> 00:44:22,893
Speaker 3: can just do little things to make him laugh. And

866
00:44:23,253 --> 00:44:25,973
Speaker 3: seeing him laugh it's as though I can feel my

867
00:44:26,453 --> 00:44:29,413
Speaker 3: blood pressure relax or something like. I feel a kind

868
00:44:29,413 --> 00:44:34,213
Speaker 3: of physiological reaction as I as I join him and laughter.

869
00:44:34,293 --> 00:44:36,533
Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's an amazing it's an amazing thing,

870
00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:37,813
Speaker 3: and you never really consider it.

871
00:44:37,813 --> 00:44:39,293
Speaker 4: I suppose no, you don't.

872
00:44:39,333 --> 00:44:41,533
Speaker 13: And that's why I'm taking time out in the show too.

873
00:44:41,773 --> 00:44:44,333
Speaker 13: I mean I should stress it's not a Ted talk no.

874
00:44:44,093 --> 00:44:45,973
Speaker 5: No, absolutely a comedy show.

875
00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:49,413
Speaker 3: Doctor Stephen is going to be addressing us about yeah yeah,

876
00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:50,893
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.

877
00:44:50,413 --> 00:44:53,933
Speaker 13: And will I will be guaranteeing that laughter will ensue.

878
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:58,573
Speaker 13: Where I've been doing the show recently in Adelaide and

879
00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 13: now in Canberra, and it's gone down I can say particularly, well.

880
00:45:03,533 --> 00:45:05,253
Speaker 3: That's really good to hear. So so you're sort of

881
00:45:05,253 --> 00:45:07,813
Speaker 3: on the feasible circuit a little bit at the stage

882
00:45:07,813 --> 00:45:10,773
Speaker 3: of the year, right, and you you had a real

883
00:45:10,853 --> 00:45:13,733
Speaker 3: breakout back in the day at the Edinburgh Fringe. That

884
00:45:13,853 --> 00:45:17,813
Speaker 3: was where you really started to connect with people. So

885
00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 3: how do you reflect. I don't want to suggest that

886
00:45:20,173 --> 00:45:21,653
Speaker 3: you've been in the game a long time. But how

887
00:45:21,653 --> 00:45:23,733
Speaker 3: do you reflect on the kind of on the kind

888
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:26,293
Speaker 3: of changes in the comedy scene, in the way in

889
00:45:26,333 --> 00:45:30,613
Speaker 3: which comics travel and tour today compared to when you started,

890
00:45:30,653 --> 00:45:33,373
Speaker 3: Because from the outside it looks like there's been an

891
00:45:33,413 --> 00:45:35,293
Speaker 3: explosion and stand up comedy.

892
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:37,893
Speaker 13: Well, I think you're absolutely right, Jack, there have been

893
00:45:37,893 --> 00:45:41,173
Speaker 13: an explosion. And I think partly what's that got to

894
00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:44,733
Speaker 13: do with is the fact that people's tastes have changed

895
00:45:44,773 --> 00:45:48,333
Speaker 13: over the years. How people consume comedy has changed. The

896
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:51,533
Speaker 13: gatekeepers who used to tell us and put on TV, etc.

897
00:45:52,013 --> 00:45:55,213
Speaker 13: What they thought was funny. That has changed, the advent

898
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:58,413
Speaker 13: of social media where people can create their own stuff.

899
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:01,893
Speaker 13: And what I've seen in particular in the last ten

900
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 13: ten or so years is the different voices coming through now.

901
00:46:06,493 --> 00:46:07,973
Speaker 13: When I was doing The End, I used to the

902
00:46:08,093 --> 00:46:13,093
Speaker 13: Edinward Festival every year since nineteen ninety seven, for example,

903
00:46:13,453 --> 00:46:15,493
Speaker 13: and back then, for example, I would be one of

904
00:46:15,693 --> 00:46:19,333
Speaker 13: maybe two other black comedians there, or you wouldn't hear

905
00:46:19,373 --> 00:46:23,213
Speaker 13: of any LGBT voices, you wouldn't.

906
00:46:22,893 --> 00:46:24,573
Speaker 5: See many women.

907
00:46:25,773 --> 00:46:28,373
Speaker 13: But now that the landscape, as I say, has changed,

908
00:46:28,573 --> 00:46:31,173
Speaker 13: and it's wonderful because every one of us has got

909
00:46:31,213 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 13: a story to tell. And you know, comedy is subjective.

910
00:46:34,213 --> 00:46:36,213
Speaker 13: What you do is you find your tribe. You know,

911
00:46:36,573 --> 00:46:38,813
Speaker 13: if you don't find someone particularly funny, don't go and

912
00:46:38,853 --> 00:46:43,133
Speaker 13: see them. That's how simple it is. But I think

913
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:46,933
Speaker 13: with comedy as well, that laughing, it's very emotional, very emotive.

914
00:46:47,373 --> 00:46:50,013
Speaker 13: I think people get so angry if they didn't like

915
00:46:50,053 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 13: a policular comedian or they didn't like a comedy show.

916
00:46:53,733 --> 00:46:56,453
Speaker 13: Like music as well, Oh that band is awful, don't

917
00:46:56,893 --> 00:46:59,733
Speaker 13: it might be awful to you. Somebody else likes them.

918
00:46:59,933 --> 00:47:02,573
Speaker 13: There is a reason for their success, you know, let's

919
00:47:02,573 --> 00:47:03,893
Speaker 13: try and balance things out.

920
00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:09,573
Speaker 3: That's a very mature reflection. Well, I just because you

921
00:47:09,613 --> 00:47:12,213
Speaker 3: know there are I mean, you see these stories about

922
00:47:12,373 --> 00:47:15,653
Speaker 3: you know, people either saying one of two things, first

923
00:47:15,653 --> 00:47:18,413
Speaker 3: of all, saying that you know, this comedian isn't funny

924
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:21,413
Speaker 3: and this person shouldn't be saying this, or you conversely,

925
00:47:21,453 --> 00:47:23,133
Speaker 3: hear the other side of the coin, where you know,

926
00:47:23,213 --> 00:47:28,493
Speaker 3: people moan about living in two censorious a society these days,

927
00:47:28,573 --> 00:47:30,853
Speaker 3: and I can imagine that you sort of need to

928
00:47:30,933 --> 00:47:33,773
Speaker 3: know where you stand on those points if you're going

929
00:47:33,813 --> 00:47:35,173
Speaker 3: to be getting up in front of people and you're

930
00:47:35,213 --> 00:47:36,733
Speaker 3: going to be and you're going to be cracking gag.

931
00:47:36,813 --> 00:47:38,373
Speaker 3: So where do you want to Where do you land

932
00:47:38,413 --> 00:47:39,333
Speaker 3: on the continuum?

933
00:47:39,533 --> 00:47:42,773
Speaker 13: Well, well, the way I think the world has got

934
00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:45,893
Speaker 13: and this is perhaps the negative side of social media

935
00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:53,613
Speaker 13: has got censorious, has got full of misinformation, downright lies, untruth.

936
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:58,253
Speaker 13: People say whatever they want without recourse. But I think

937
00:47:58,293 --> 00:48:01,373
Speaker 13: in the in the in the arena of comedy, I

938
00:48:01,453 --> 00:48:04,253
Speaker 13: really do believe in freedom of speech. But also with

939
00:48:04,373 --> 00:48:07,853
Speaker 13: freedom of speech comes freedom of expressession, whereby we can

940
00:48:07,893 --> 00:48:11,133
Speaker 13: react however we see fit, depending what it is you say,

941
00:48:11,413 --> 00:48:14,653
Speaker 13: that should be the payoff. I think any decent comedian,

942
00:48:14,893 --> 00:48:18,413
Speaker 13: any good comedian, should be able and allowed to tackle

943
00:48:18,453 --> 00:48:21,453
Speaker 13: any subject. Whether they tackle it and get it right

944
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:24,613
Speaker 13: is another story. But let's not forget that we're in

945
00:48:24,853 --> 00:48:27,653
Speaker 13: the boundaries of comedy. It's a comedy show, and that

946
00:48:27,653 --> 00:48:29,293
Speaker 13: doesn't mean you say what you want to make people

947
00:48:29,373 --> 00:48:31,773
Speaker 13: laugh in a cheap, easy laugh, because we can all

948
00:48:31,853 --> 00:48:34,773
Speaker 13: do that. I'm pretty certain that every single one of us,

949
00:48:35,133 --> 00:48:37,733
Speaker 13: every one of the listeners right now, will the most

950
00:48:37,733 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 13: outrageous things your friends and family that you never say

951
00:48:40,893 --> 00:48:44,653
Speaker 13: an open company. You know, that's polite society. So for

952
00:48:44,733 --> 00:48:47,213
Speaker 13: me and myself, as I say people like my stuff,

953
00:48:47,253 --> 00:48:49,813
Speaker 13: people don't like my stuff. I don't get involved in

954
00:48:49,853 --> 00:48:52,973
Speaker 13: online spats with anybody. You know, people people have said

955
00:48:53,053 --> 00:48:55,093
Speaker 13: some stuff about me in the past over the years.

956
00:48:55,213 --> 00:48:57,813
Speaker 13: I don't get involved with it because I'm not adding

957
00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:00,933
Speaker 13: fuel or oxygen to something that's not going to benefit

958
00:49:01,053 --> 00:49:02,853
Speaker 13: my life or my mental space.

959
00:49:03,133 --> 00:49:06,573
Speaker 3: Very wise, very wise, and I'm one hundred percent. I

960
00:49:06,613 --> 00:49:08,973
Speaker 3: always just think context is so often forgotten.

961
00:49:09,013 --> 00:49:12,773
Speaker 13: With these contexts, it's so easy to sit behind your

962
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:16,013
Speaker 13: phone and you just have a comment and at the

963
00:49:16,093 --> 00:49:18,893
Speaker 13: end of the day, to be honest, Jack, I don't

964
00:49:18,933 --> 00:49:21,373
Speaker 13: want to hear I don't want to know what people

965
00:49:21,413 --> 00:49:23,053
Speaker 13: who know nothing think.

966
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:27,373
Speaker 3: This is. That's a great attitude. I always think, you know,

967
00:49:27,453 --> 00:49:31,213
Speaker 3: if you've taken the time whoever you are, anonymous keyboard warrior,

968
00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:34,653
Speaker 3: to take, you know, three minutes out of your day

969
00:49:34,693 --> 00:49:37,133
Speaker 3: to write a horrible message to me, I can only

970
00:49:37,133 --> 00:49:39,973
Speaker 3: imagine how vacuous an empty your life must be, because

971
00:49:39,973 --> 00:49:42,253
Speaker 3: if that's the use of time, yeah, exactly.

972
00:49:42,253 --> 00:49:45,773
Speaker 5: No, I can't imagine sitting I don't think I could.

973
00:49:46,013 --> 00:49:48,213
Speaker 13: I could put my hand on heart and say I

974
00:49:48,213 --> 00:49:50,333
Speaker 13: can look through all my social media over the years,

975
00:49:50,453 --> 00:49:52,173
Speaker 13: and I've never written anything.

976
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:53,453
Speaker 4: Horrible to anybody good?

977
00:49:53,493 --> 00:49:56,773
Speaker 5: I mean, how what benefit does it make you feel better?

978
00:49:57,933 --> 00:49:59,173
Speaker 5: My goodness? Gracious?

979
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:02,773
Speaker 3: Hey, why are the Brits so good at panel shows?

980
00:50:02,853 --> 00:50:06,053
Speaker 3: Why don't we see the Americans doing funny panel shows?

981
00:50:06,053 --> 00:50:09,413
Speaker 3: But I mean they're a diameter dozen in the UK

982
00:50:09,613 --> 00:50:12,333
Speaker 3: and almost to a program, they are sensational.

983
00:50:13,293 --> 00:50:15,773
Speaker 5: Do you know what? I don't know what the actual

984
00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:18,053
Speaker 5: answer is. It could be.

985
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:20,853
Speaker 13: I mean, for example, the Americans are very good at sitcom,

986
00:50:21,373 --> 00:50:23,733
Speaker 13: maybe because they have lots and lots of writers. They're

987
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:27,333
Speaker 13: good at sketch in some in many respects, maybe because

988
00:50:27,333 --> 00:50:29,453
Speaker 13: they have lots and lots of writers. But with a

989
00:50:29,533 --> 00:50:34,093
Speaker 13: panel show, it's about getting about each person being individual,

990
00:50:34,533 --> 00:50:36,973
Speaker 13: and it's kind of in the moment and it's funny,

991
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:39,653
Speaker 13: and some people are very self deprecating on there. So

992
00:50:39,693 --> 00:50:42,333
Speaker 13: you again, like comedy, you find the ones you like

993
00:50:42,813 --> 00:50:45,293
Speaker 13: and then you go bang, oh yeah, that's that's he said,

994
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:47,213
Speaker 13: that's spontaneously, that's funny.

995
00:50:47,413 --> 00:50:48,413
Speaker 5: Maybe that's the secret.

996
00:50:48,493 --> 00:50:50,613
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't want to say the Americans aren't witty,

997
00:50:50,773 --> 00:50:53,693
Speaker 3: because I enjoy American comedies as well, But I think

998
00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:57,653
Speaker 3: maybe that's it. Maybe maybe there's something about the British

999
00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:01,493
Speaker 3: sensibility that just leans itself to being wittier in those

1000
00:51:01,613 --> 00:51:04,173
Speaker 3: in those moments and those shows beat a suitor kind

1001
00:51:04,213 --> 00:51:05,693
Speaker 3: of witty format, you know.

1002
00:51:06,573 --> 00:51:07,733
Speaker 5: But Jack.

1003
00:51:09,093 --> 00:51:12,453
Speaker 3: Exactly, you put it on me, Steve, And yeah, you

1004
00:51:12,493 --> 00:51:15,573
Speaker 3: take the full to see all the comments flooding and

1005
00:51:15,613 --> 00:51:19,493
Speaker 3: I'll be totally misrepresented here. And yeah, my final question

1006
00:51:19,533 --> 00:51:22,893
Speaker 3: for you. You were in the Beetlejuice sequel a couple

1007
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:25,013
Speaker 3: of times. Yes, So how did that come about?

1008
00:51:25,493 --> 00:51:26,733
Speaker 5: Well, it's one of those things.

1009
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:29,293
Speaker 13: I'm just very grateful that over the years catop has

1010
00:51:29,373 --> 00:51:32,453
Speaker 13: opened many different avenues to walk down through.

1011
00:51:32,693 --> 00:51:35,013
Speaker 5: I've done a West End musical for example. I mean,

1012
00:51:35,013 --> 00:51:35,933
Speaker 5: who would have thought it?

1013
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:39,053
Speaker 13: And then I got a call a couple of years

1014
00:51:39,053 --> 00:51:43,213
Speaker 13: ago from casting people and they give me a code

1015
00:51:43,293 --> 00:51:46,053
Speaker 13: name for this thing and they mentioned Tim Burton and

1016
00:51:46,093 --> 00:51:46,453
Speaker 13: I'm like.

1017
00:51:46,453 --> 00:51:48,693
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, I'm in. And then, of.

1018
00:51:48,653 --> 00:51:52,373
Speaker 13: Course I find out with a script that arrives a

1019
00:51:52,413 --> 00:51:55,613
Speaker 13: couple of days later, and it's watermarked and it's highly

1020
00:51:55,653 --> 00:51:58,693
Speaker 13: tightly secure, and it's got a cowbird and I know

1021
00:51:58,813 --> 00:52:02,093
Speaker 13: exactly what it is and I'm like boom, of course,

1022
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:04,853
Speaker 13: and everyone has seen it. You'll know that the scene

1023
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:08,533
Speaker 13: that I'm talking about is. It's a pastiche it's quite

1024
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:13,653
Speaker 13: a nod back to a certain very famous music program

1025
00:52:13,733 --> 00:52:17,773
Speaker 13: in America in these late sixties and seventies, and that's

1026
00:52:17,933 --> 00:52:20,133
Speaker 13: I think it's quite funny. I think it's the best scene.

1027
00:52:20,173 --> 00:52:20,813
Speaker 5: But I'm buyased.

1028
00:52:20,853 --> 00:52:22,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you are. Yeah, yeah, no, no, we

1029
00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:24,813
Speaker 3: can definitely agree on that point. Hey, thank you so

1030
00:52:24,893 --> 00:52:26,773
Speaker 3: much for giving us your time. We are delighted to

1031
00:52:26,813 --> 00:52:28,413
Speaker 3: have you coming back to our shores and look forward

1032
00:52:28,413 --> 00:52:29,293
Speaker 3: to seeing you very soon.

1033
00:52:29,973 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 13: I can't wait. I'm absolutely thrill it to be coming

1034
00:52:32,413 --> 00:52:36,013
Speaker 13: out to a New Zealand. Yeah, it's been too long.

1035
00:52:36,493 --> 00:52:39,653
Speaker 3: Oh so good. Looking forward to Stephen. We'll have all

1036
00:52:39,653 --> 00:52:42,333
Speaker 3: the details for Stephen k am Moss's tour up on

1037
00:52:42,373 --> 00:52:44,253
Speaker 3: the News Talks. He'd be website so you can get

1038
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:46,533
Speaker 3: along and see him as well. Now before eleven o'clock

1039
00:52:46,533 --> 00:52:50,493
Speaker 3: on News Talks, he'd be our personal finance expert has

1040
00:52:50,533 --> 00:52:54,773
Speaker 3: been doing the numbers to see how election years impact

1041
00:52:54,933 --> 00:52:57,933
Speaker 3: the housing market. He reckons that actually there are a

1042
00:52:58,013 --> 00:53:01,093
Speaker 3: couple of trends that he's identified, which he's going to

1043
00:53:01,133 --> 00:53:03,693
Speaker 3: share with us before eleven o'clock this morning. If you

1044
00:53:03,773 --> 00:53:07,053
Speaker 3: were in the market by any chance, we'll have a

1045
00:53:07,093 --> 00:53:09,773
Speaker 3: definitive measure as to whether or not now it is

1046
00:53:09,813 --> 00:53:11,893
Speaker 3: a good time to buy, are you before the election

1047
00:53:12,093 --> 00:53:14,013
Speaker 3: or after the election, whether or not you should wait?

1048
00:53:14,053 --> 00:53:16,653
Speaker 3: So he's going to join us very shortly. Next up, though,

1049
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:18,653
Speaker 3: we've got your screen time picks for this weekend, a

1050
00:53:18,653 --> 00:53:21,133
Speaker 3: couple of cracking shows to watch your stream from the

1051
00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:24,093
Speaker 3: comfort of your couch. Right now, it's twenty one past ten.

1052
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:26,733
Speaker 3: You're Jack Tame. It's Saturday Morning and this is news

1053
00:53:26,733 --> 00:53:30,333
Speaker 3: Dog ZBT.

1054
00:53:28,813 --> 00:53:32,093
Speaker 1: On your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning with

1055
00:53:32,333 --> 00:53:34,573
Speaker 1: Jack Tame, news DOGSV.

1056
00:53:36,413 --> 00:53:40,453
Speaker 3: News Dogs B twenty four minutes past ten, You're Jack Tame.

1057
00:53:40,493 --> 00:53:43,533
Speaker 3: Thank you for your Textas Morning Jack. British banter is

1058
00:53:43,533 --> 00:53:46,213
Speaker 3: developed in the pubs. That's why I think it's the

1059
00:53:46,213 --> 00:53:48,453
Speaker 3: best Jack. The British comedy game shows are so good

1060
00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:51,333
Speaker 3: because mainly only one person talks at a time. If

1061
00:53:51,373 --> 00:53:53,013
Speaker 3: you watch the New Zealand ones, it becomes a bit

1062
00:53:53,013 --> 00:53:56,133
Speaker 3: of a shout fest. That's an observation that Leo's made

1063
00:53:56,173 --> 00:53:58,093
Speaker 3: on the textas Morning and Jack. I'm listening to your

1064
00:53:58,093 --> 00:53:59,893
Speaker 3: program right now with my one year old. At the

1065
00:53:59,933 --> 00:54:03,173
Speaker 3: mention of peekaboo, he started laughing. Out loud. Little ones

1066
00:54:03,173 --> 00:54:06,973
Speaker 3: are so marvelous. Thanks for Unka and Josh take listeners

1067
00:54:06,973 --> 00:54:08,733
Speaker 3: of all ages and on Saturday mornings. You know how

1068
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Speaker 3: it is ninety two. If you want to send us

1069
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Speaker 3: a message this morning, Jacket Newspek saidv dot co dot

1070
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Speaker 3: nz is the email address. Our screen time expert Carl

1071
00:54:17,973 --> 00:54:20,733
Speaker 3: Pushman is here this morning with two shows to recommend

1072
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Speaker 3: for watching or streaming from your place. Do you have

1073
00:54:23,573 --> 00:54:25,293
Speaker 3: a Carl? Good morning, Jack.

1074
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Speaker 5: Hello.

1075
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Speaker 3: We're going to begin this morning with the latest show

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Speaker 3: from the creator of Stranger Things, tell us about something

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Speaker 3: very bad is going to happen.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I'm gonna have some minor spoilers, but nothing more

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Speaker 14: than you might have gathered from that title. It's very descriptive,

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Speaker 14: and indeed something very bad does indeed happen throughout and

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Speaker 14: continues to happen pretty much from.

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Speaker 8: The word go.

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Speaker 14: The show's sort of a horror romance, perhaps not the

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Speaker 14: way you might think. The remance comes from the show

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Speaker 14: revolving around a wedding and the idea of marrying your soulmate.

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Speaker 14: Then the horror comes from a generational curse that kills

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Speaker 14: the bride on the evening of her wedding day in

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Speaker 14: quite gruesome fashion if the man she's married is not

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Speaker 14: in fact said soulmate, which is quite a unique idea.

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Speaker 14: And the show follows a bride Rachel in the week

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Speaker 14: leading up to her wedding as she discovers first why

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Speaker 14: all these bad things are going on around her, secondly

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Speaker 14: if fiance is actually her soulmate, and then thirdly finding

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Speaker 14: a way to sort of survive the curse if it

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Speaker 14: turns out he isn't. And of course there's loads of

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Speaker 14: bad things happening. This idea isn't waste and there's been

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Speaker 14: a lot of buzz around the eight part show. Like

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Speaker 14: you said, it was produced by the Duffer brothers who

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Speaker 14: created Stranger Things, and that was a slick show and

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Speaker 14: sort of set a visual visual tone for the zeitgeist

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Speaker 14: in a way, and this does the same sort of thing,

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Speaker 14: but it doesn't lean on nostalgia like that does. It's

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Speaker 14: very modern and flashy, which you know you sort of

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Speaker 14: expect from those guys, right, Yeah, And I think this

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Speaker 14: would have been an absolutely cracking movie. It would have

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Speaker 14: been amazing. It would have been six episodes, would have

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Speaker 14: been a very good show, but at eight it really

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Speaker 14: does start to drag and lose that momentum that it

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Speaker 14: has in the first half. Right, the first four episodes, man,

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Speaker 14: I was all in on the show. It was moving fast,

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Speaker 14: it was creepy as heck, it was dark, it was

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Speaker 14: you know, quite quite scary at times, and had it

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Speaker 14: almost like a David Lynch vibe to it. It was all

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Speaker 14: this weird stuff happening, and it was very very creepy

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Speaker 14: and tense. And then there's a reveal which is I

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Speaker 14: guess supposed to raise the stakes, but it kind of

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Speaker 14: just deflated them for me, which was a bit disappointing.

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Speaker 14: And then the pace really slows down and characters have

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Speaker 14: lots of earnest conversations where you're thinking, can we just

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Speaker 14: get back on with what's going on? So I think

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Speaker 14: they just like cut it down to six episodes. That

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Speaker 14: would have helped a lot, but it's still you know,

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Speaker 14: I still wanted to see. I stayed right to the end.

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Speaker 14: I wanted to see what was happened, what would happen,

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Speaker 14: how they're going to resolve this thing. I was very

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Speaker 14: curious to see what was going to go on. But

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Speaker 14: it did feel not a slog but you know, there

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Speaker 14: were different definitely get.

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Speaker 3: Out more than was necessary sometimes Lisa's more with these things.

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Speaker 14: I think so, and especially with you know, with horror,

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Speaker 14: you want to keep that Kent awful atmosphere, and it

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Speaker 14: does lead to like sort of like a commediately horrific finale,

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Speaker 14: I think is a way to almost compensate for that

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Speaker 14: slow sort of pace that it falls into. But by

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Speaker 14: then it wasn't enough. It was almost comedically comedically gory.

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Speaker 3: In a way.

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Speaker 14: So it's not very it's not very bad, but I

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Speaker 14: would say it's probably average. It would have been an

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Speaker 14: amazing an amazing movie. But yeah, eight episodes so long?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, well it depends how the weather is

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Speaker 3: it your plays, you know, if it's if it's one

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Speaker 3: of those weekends, then maybe eight episodes isn't actually too many.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, get the message there. So that's that's

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Speaker 3: something very bad is going to happen. That's streaming on

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Speaker 3: Netflix and on Apple TV plus. Tell us about your

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Speaker 3: friends and neighbors.

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Speaker 14: Now this is season two has just started, and I

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Speaker 14: was super invested in season one. I don't know if

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Speaker 14: you know much about it. It's a crime drama with

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Speaker 14: you know, a little little comedy thrown in here and

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Speaker 14: there the light of the mood, and it has a

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Speaker 14: great premise as well. John Hamm stars as a recently

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Speaker 14: divorced hedge fund manager who gets fired from his job.

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Speaker 14: So to keep himself in the lifestyle he's accustomed to,

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Speaker 14: he starts robbing his neighbors in the extremely wealthy neighborhood

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Speaker 14: that he lives in. So he do things like he'll

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Speaker 14: break into their house and steal a rolex from their collection,

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Speaker 14: or a piece of jewelry from the jewelry draw just

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Speaker 14: small little items that are worth a lot of money

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Speaker 14: but wouldn't be immediately noticeable, which is how he gets

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Speaker 14: away with it.

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Speaker 3: So it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 14: He'd have these great high scenes when he's breaking into

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Speaker 14: people's houses and you know, the show, and getting around

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Speaker 14: their dogs and things like that, and they explained how

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Speaker 14: he sort of would bypass alarm systems and things like that,

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Speaker 14: so it was a lot of fun. And they sort

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Speaker 14: of balance that heist with the family drama of him

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Speaker 14: and his divorce process and things like that, so it

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Speaker 14: was it was quite good, and it ended on an

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Speaker 14: almighty cliffhanger that I've been waiting a full year to

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Speaker 14: see how are they going to get themselves out of

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Speaker 14: this thing?

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Speaker 4: Like it was?

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Speaker 14: It was major. I was like, Oh, this is going

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Speaker 14: to be great, explain away. So I was really man,

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Speaker 14: I was ready. So imagine my disappointment Jack when they

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Speaker 14: simply hand waived the whole thing away. It was such

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Speaker 14: a letdown. You would not believe they do a time jump.

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Speaker 14: They sort of a couple of characters mentioned it a

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Speaker 14: couple of times.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 14: I won't spoil what they do, but I will say

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Speaker 14: that it was very lame and sort of up there

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Speaker 14: with and it was all a dream.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So after that, it was very hard to get to

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Speaker 14: invest into season two because you know, once you've been cheated,

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Speaker 14: once you're not lying again. Of yeah, they introduced James

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Speaker 14: mar and Marsden to the cast, who you might know

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Speaker 14: from the Sotnic movies, and you know, he's been a

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Speaker 14: movie since X Men, way back in the twenty two

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Speaker 14: thousands naughties, and he plays sort of charismatic, mysterious, extremely

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Speaker 14: wealthy new neighbor and he has a sort of like

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Speaker 14: gregarious energy about him, and he comes in and he's

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Speaker 14: all vibing and he's great and quite a perfect foil

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Speaker 14: to John Ham's, you know, sort of signature, dead pan,

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Speaker 14: cynical kind of performances that he does. So those two

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Speaker 14: work together really great, and it's really fun and it's

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Speaker 14: still flashy and it's still fun to watch, and it's

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Speaker 14: got that Apple premium look to it, but I just

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Speaker 14: can't get as invested because yeah, what they did, how

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Speaker 14: they got out.

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Speaker 3: Of season one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that is.

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Speaker 14: It's still a fun watch, like, you know, you sit there,

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Speaker 14: you watch it, but there's just something holding you back

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Speaker 14: from being like, I'm all investing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, So that's your Friends and Neighbors. That's

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Speaker 3: on Apple TV Plus. And Carl's first pick for us

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Speaker 3: this week is something very Bad is going to Happen.

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Speaker 3: That's the one that's from the makers of Stranger Things

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Speaker 3: that's streaming on Netflix. All the details for those shows,

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Speaker 3: of course, will be up on the News Talks He'd

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Speaker 3: be website and you can hear more from Carl on

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Speaker 3: his sub stack screen Crack. It is twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 3: to eleven.

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Speaker 4: Getting your weekend started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks.

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Speaker 4: B that's cool.

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Speaker 3: This is ar Low Park that songs called Softly. It

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Speaker 3: sort of feels like it's going to be really conventional

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Speaker 3: pop and then it's just a little twist, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: So Arlow Parks is a songwriter from South London who

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Speaker 3: has established herself as one of the most emotionally transparent

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Speaker 3: voices in today's pop music. She was a Mercury Prize

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Speaker 3: winner for her debut album, Collapsed in Sunbeams, which she

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Speaker 3: released just before her twentieth bird She's always kind of

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Speaker 3: been drawn to an influenced by early two thousands Croydon

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Speaker 3: post dubstep sounds, which I'm very familiar with no but

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Speaker 3: actually know the likes of James Blake, for example, who

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Speaker 3: is just Fantastic, whose new album is oh Obnestly par Excellence,

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Speaker 3: Joy Orbison another one and who Anyway, her new album's

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Speaker 3: kind of absorbed a lot of that feeling. So Arlo

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Speaker 3: Parks's new album is called Ambiguous Desire. We're going to

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Speaker 3: have a little bit of a listen before midday today,

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Speaker 3: before eleven though. We're in the garden looking at the

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Speaker 3: crazy number of New Zealand snail varieties, including more than

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Speaker 3: just the common ones you like you to encounter in

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Speaker 3: your backyard, and our personal finance expert is going to

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Speaker 3: be in. He's going to tell us once and for all,

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Speaker 3: from the data he has crunched across eleven MMP elections,

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Speaker 3: how elections influence buying behavior in the housing market, and

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Speaker 3: whether or not having an election in the near to

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Speaker 3: medium future makes it a better prospect for buying a

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Speaker 3: house than it might otherwise be. He'll be with us

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Next up, though Australia's social media band has

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Speaker 3: been in place for more more than six months now,

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Speaker 3: I think, and the first reviews are in so our

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Speaker 3: Textbert's going to run us through the details twenty three

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Speaker 3: to eleven.

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Speaker 4: Start the day. It's a team. It's the mic asking breakfast,

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Speaker 4: quick question? Did you buy the mini? Good question, Tim.

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Speaker 15: The more pertinent question would be after she said we

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Speaker 15: were going to buy the mini? What happened when I

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Speaker 15: went home? Would that be the question you'd like to ask.

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Speaker 4: Me, Mike, after she said that she would buy the mini?

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Speaker 4: What happened when you got home?

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Speaker 15: For a good question, Tim, I'm glad you asked that.

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Speaker 15: The answer was that's not happening. I regret saying that,

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Speaker 15: and that's the last we will ever talk about. That's

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Speaker 15: not true.

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Speaker 11: Because the Mini Garage did get in touch with me.

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Speaker 11: She was like, hey, I'm not building it out.

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Speaker 15: This is like the US and Run at the moment,

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Speaker 15: isn't it we're talking about we're not?

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Speaker 4: Yes we are, No, we're not. Is the AMNI know

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Speaker 4: there's not? Yes, it could be no, there's not.

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Speaker 15: Back Tuesday for six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: rain Drivers fort SV News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one to eleven non news talks. They'd be the

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Speaker 3: first reviews or report cards are in on the Australian

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Speaker 3: social media ban. Of course, sixteen year olds in Australia

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Speaker 3: are banned from using social media. Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse

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Speaker 3: is here with the details. So how's it going, Paul, Yeah.

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Speaker 16: There's room for improvement. Jack, So maybe what's that a

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Speaker 16: C or maybe a B. I don't know, but the

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Speaker 16: regulator is watching. I don't think they're taking any measures

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Speaker 16: as yet, but they are. They're paying close attention to

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Speaker 16: those ten social media companies who ye have to try

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Speaker 16: to keep children off the platforms, and I think it

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Speaker 16: is possibly easier said than done.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 16: The regulator at the moment has flagged a couple of

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Speaker 16: things though, where they've said that where they're sort of

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Speaker 16: not following or where there could be some improvements. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: one of those is that before the band came into play,

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Speaker 16: some kids said they were under sixteen, and since the

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Speaker 16: band came into effect, I've had the opportunity to change

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Speaker 16: their account to say that they are over sixteen. So

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Speaker 16: that's one little check mark in the maybe things to

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Speaker 16: improve column. They've also found that there are insufficient ways

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Speaker 16: to report under sixteen accounts, whether they be from other

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Speaker 16: kids or from adults or things like that. And also

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01:05:29,213 --> 01:05:32,453
Speaker 16: they still don't have good ways to prevent kids from

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Speaker 16: just creating new accounts who are under sixteen but maybe

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Speaker 16: aren't saying that they are under sixteen. So look social

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Speaker 16: media companies, both Meta and Snap, they both saying they're

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Speaker 16: doing the best they can to comply.

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Speaker 4: But it is and.

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Speaker 16: They say this. I think we've talked about this as well.

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Speaker 16: It is really difficult without a form of government ID

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Speaker 16: to know how old a person is. Otherwise we're just

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Speaker 16: trusting or potentially maybe inferring from some of their activities.

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Speaker 16: But that's not one hundred percent. So Meta has at

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Speaker 16: least suggested that the app stores should really be the

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Speaker 16: place that age verification takes place, which is a little

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01:06:08,973 --> 01:06:12,093
Speaker 16: bit of a little shift aroo.

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Speaker 3: If you will. I was going to say basically, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 16: So they're kind of saying, well, we operate and we

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01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:21,413
Speaker 16: can't really figure this out. But hey, app Store, you

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01:06:21,493 --> 01:06:25,333
Speaker 16: maybe have credit card details, you maybe know something else, Apple, Google,

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01:06:25,453 --> 01:06:27,773
Speaker 16: maybe you can just figure this over here.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that is so interesting. I suppose at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, though, I mean supporters of the band,

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01:06:32,893 --> 01:06:35,373
Speaker 3: which they don't let the perfect be the enemy.

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Speaker 4: They're good.

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Speaker 3: Like, if it's still stopping some younger kids from accessing

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Speaker 3: social media, and I think it is, I think everyone

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Speaker 3: agrees that they might otherwise have been using it, then

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Speaker 3: it's still a net positive compared to the previous setting.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see

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Speaker 3: if the big social media companies come out with some

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Speaker 3: alternate plans for actually being able to verify people's ages

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Speaker 3: without using those government issued ida Thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: Paul our Textbert Paul Stenhouse. There, we're talking personal finance.

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Speaker 3: In a couple of minutes, It's eighteen to eleven.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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01:07:11,093 --> 01:07:15,413
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News talk set me sixteen

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Speaker 1: if you're eleven.

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Speaker 3: The talking personal fins with Ed McKnight from Opie's partner

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Speaker 3: is a good morning, sir.

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Speaker 4: Great to talk to you. Jack.

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01:07:21,693 --> 01:07:24,253
Speaker 3: You know what it feels like, elections come around faster

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01:07:24,293 --> 01:07:26,613
Speaker 3: and faster and faster. Maybe that's just my job, but

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01:07:26,693 --> 01:07:29,413
Speaker 3: also maybe that is just the experience of anyone who

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Speaker 3: keeps even a cursory eye on the housing market. Because

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Speaker 3: it's funny. In election year, it feels like the date

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Speaker 3: itself and the uncertainty that comes with elections looms over

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Speaker 3: the property market.

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Speaker 17: Well that's exactly right, and in fact, so many things

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Speaker 17: routinely impact the property market and we can see that.

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Speaker 17: So what I've done is analyze the last eleven MMP

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01:07:52,093 --> 01:07:56,733
Speaker 17: elections going back to nineteen ninety three, and looked for

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01:07:56,893 --> 01:08:00,533
Speaker 17: patterns about what almost always happens. And what I've found

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01:08:00,653 --> 01:08:04,053
Speaker 17: is there a pretty clear trend. Actually, so before the

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01:08:04,093 --> 01:08:07,613
Speaker 17: election and up until about a month after the election,

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01:08:07,773 --> 01:08:12,453
Speaker 17: kiwis do routinely buy fewer houses. Now it's not by

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01:08:12,493 --> 01:08:16,333
Speaker 17: a huge amount, it's by kind of somewhere between four

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01:08:16,413 --> 01:08:20,333
Speaker 17: to ten percent fewer houses before the election, and then

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01:08:20,453 --> 01:08:23,613
Speaker 17: on average they start making up for lost time after it.

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01:08:23,773 --> 01:08:25,853
Speaker 17: And I think what this does come down to is

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01:08:26,333 --> 01:08:31,093
Speaker 17: the uncertainty about the outcome, the uncertainty about the policy

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01:08:31,133 --> 01:08:34,453
Speaker 17: settings or what might happen afterwards. It just makes some

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01:08:34,573 --> 01:08:37,933
Speaker 17: people decide to hold back a little bit, delay that picture,

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01:08:37,973 --> 01:08:40,493
Speaker 17: such a delay taking out that mess of mortgage or

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01:08:40,733 --> 01:08:43,373
Speaker 17: switching homes, of just saying, oh, wait and see what

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01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:45,973
Speaker 17: happens after the election. And I think we all kind

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01:08:46,013 --> 01:08:48,213
Speaker 17: of knew or sense that that might.

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Speaker 5: Be the case.

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Speaker 17: But it's interesting to see that once you look at

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Speaker 17: the data. Hey, that's what actually happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. Does if you're going through those different

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01:08:57,373 --> 01:08:59,933
Speaker 3: elections and the different results and then mapping it onto

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01:08:59,973 --> 01:09:03,173
Speaker 3: activity in the housing market or plopping it against activity

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Speaker 3: in the housing market, can you see any discernible difference

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01:09:06,453 --> 01:09:09,813
Speaker 3: depending on who wins you actually do it.

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Speaker 17: I was a little bit surprised by this now bearing

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01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:15,613
Speaker 17: by just before I tell you what the results actually are,

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Speaker 17: because we're only looking at eleven elections. I think six

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Speaker 17: of them were won by national, five of them were

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Speaker 17: won by labor, and so we are talking about a

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01:09:24,933 --> 01:09:28,853
Speaker 17: very very very small sample size. But when I do

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Speaker 17: split it out like that, we have seen historically that

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Speaker 17: property sales, so people buy more houses when national wins.

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Speaker 17: Now that could be for a few reasons, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 17: maybe one part is that people think that national might

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Speaker 17: be better for housing policy, despite the fact that here's

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01:09:47,613 --> 01:09:50,493
Speaker 17: a curly one four you jack. House prices have tended

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Speaker 17: to go up faster under labor than national in the past.

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Speaker 17: But putting that aside, some people think that national might

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01:09:56,253 --> 01:09:59,253
Speaker 17: be better for housing policy, so they might pile in.

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01:09:59,693 --> 01:10:03,253
Speaker 17: Some of it also comes down to just when national

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01:10:03,333 --> 01:10:05,653
Speaker 17: have gotten in the past. So if I think about

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01:10:05,693 --> 01:10:10,173
Speaker 17: the two most recent times where a national government came in,

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01:10:10,453 --> 01:10:14,133
Speaker 17: one happened in the GFC. Now John Key comes in,

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Speaker 17: and what happens is the property market was already in

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01:10:17,493 --> 01:10:20,613
Speaker 17: the middle of a downturn right and then we had

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Speaker 17: a rapid recovery. So did we see how sales increase

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01:10:25,133 --> 01:10:27,933
Speaker 17: when national came in because John Key got it or

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01:10:27,973 --> 01:10:30,333
Speaker 17: was it because there was a recovery happening anyway from

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01:10:30,333 --> 01:10:32,573
Speaker 17: the GFC. And then even if we look at the

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01:10:32,653 --> 01:10:34,693
Speaker 17: last election, think about what was happening there. We were

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Speaker 17: in the middle of this absolute housing market downturred. We

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01:10:38,613 --> 01:10:41,093
Speaker 17: were well below average in terms of how many properties

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01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:45,093
Speaker 17: were being purchased. Then Christopher Luxid gets it. Now, did

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Speaker 17: he change all the policies of back the housing market

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01:10:47,333 --> 01:10:50,293
Speaker 17: will better? No, But we started buying more houses because

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01:10:50,533 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 17: that was the that was the right part of the

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01:10:53,093 --> 01:10:55,933
Speaker 17: cycle where people were going to start to purchase more houses.

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Speaker 17: So that's where I'm just trying to be a little

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01:10:57,733 --> 01:10:59,453
Speaker 17: bit careful and say, hey, it's not all doubt of

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01:10:59,453 --> 01:11:00,253
Speaker 17: the politicians.

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01:11:00,373 --> 01:11:02,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's just what's.

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01:11:02,133 --> 01:11:05,053
Speaker 17: Happening in the property market at the time, and.

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01:11:05,693 --> 01:11:09,293
Speaker 3: It's the old relation versus causation situation. Right, You've got

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01:11:09,293 --> 01:11:11,373
Speaker 3: to be very careful. So I'm glad that you've given

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01:11:11,453 --> 01:11:14,373
Speaker 3: us that you know that that precursor, because that's a

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01:11:14,453 --> 01:11:16,813
Speaker 3: very important point. Well what does this mean though, for

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01:11:16,893 --> 01:11:20,533
Speaker 3: people who are thinking about purchasing proper property at the moment.

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01:11:20,733 --> 01:11:22,333
Speaker 3: Is there anything that can kind of take out of it?

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01:11:23,093 --> 01:11:25,253
Speaker 17: Well, I think there's a little bit of an opportunity

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01:11:25,293 --> 01:11:27,813
Speaker 17: for the wily people out there who are planning a

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01:11:27,853 --> 01:11:31,413
Speaker 17: purchase and think, Okay, I know that the property market's

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01:11:31,413 --> 01:11:34,853
Speaker 17: going to be a bit quieter in the call it

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01:11:35,333 --> 01:11:39,173
Speaker 17: six months before the election. Maybe if I'm not so

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01:11:39,893 --> 01:11:43,613
Speaker 17: worried about who's going to get in because I'm buying

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01:11:43,613 --> 01:11:45,293
Speaker 17: this for myself to live in. Right, I'm going to

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01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:48,053
Speaker 17: eat a house where a label or national wins the election.

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01:11:48,533 --> 01:11:50,293
Speaker 17: If I know that the market's going to be a

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01:11:50,333 --> 01:11:53,933
Speaker 17: little bit quieter, maybe I can negotiate a bit. And

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01:11:54,013 --> 01:11:56,773
Speaker 17: maybe you start saying to the real estate agent, well,

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01:11:56,853 --> 01:11:58,533
Speaker 17: you know the election is going to make a lot

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01:11:58,533 --> 01:12:02,133
Speaker 17: of people uncertain. Maybe I'll hold off, but actually, if

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01:12:02,173 --> 01:12:03,973
Speaker 17: I can get a good price, if you accept this

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01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:06,253
Speaker 17: lower price, yeah, I'll do the deal before the ELI

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01:12:07,053 --> 01:12:09,453
Speaker 17: because we all know that's going to be If it's

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01:12:09,533 --> 01:12:11,933
Speaker 17: quite a market, we can use that to our advantage.

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01:12:12,173 --> 01:12:14,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that makes total sense. That's very interesting. Thank

1430
01:12:14,653 --> 01:12:16,173
Speaker 3: you for crunching the numbers for us.

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01:12:16,173 --> 01:12:16,373
Speaker 4: Eat.

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01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:18,093
Speaker 7: Thanks.

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01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:20,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate. It'd be very interesting, actually, given the

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01:12:20,813 --> 01:12:22,613
Speaker 3: events of the world at the moment, the state of

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01:12:22,613 --> 01:12:26,053
Speaker 3: our economy, to go in a year's time and look

1436
01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:27,813
Speaker 3: back at the kind of sales data from this year

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01:12:27,853 --> 01:12:30,213
Speaker 3: and see what impact the elections actually had. Ed McKnight

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01:12:30,253 --> 01:12:33,453
Speaker 3: there from Opie's Partners, our personal Finance Expert.

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01:12:34,093 --> 01:12:37,293
Speaker 1: Gardening with Steel Sharp, Autumn Deals on Tools.

1440
01:12:36,973 --> 01:12:40,053
Speaker 3: Bil Wright, and our Man in the Garden. This Easter

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01:12:40,133 --> 01:12:41,613
Speaker 3: weekend is rude climb pass.

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01:12:41,613 --> 01:12:44,493
Speaker 7: Good morning, Serve, A very good morning to you. Jack.

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01:12:44,573 --> 01:12:46,973
Speaker 3: We always think of you as our cultured European, so

1444
01:12:47,053 --> 01:12:49,453
Speaker 3: no doubt you're here talking s cargo this morning.

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01:12:51,853 --> 01:12:56,373
Speaker 7: Yes, the Frenchman herego. Well, no, actually I started I

1446
01:12:56,413 --> 01:12:59,293
Speaker 7: started reading some of this literature, you know, on all

1447
01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:01,453
Speaker 7: sorts of bits and pieces. And when I read that

1448
01:13:01,573 --> 01:13:05,853
Speaker 7: we had fourteen hundred different species of snails in oh

1449
01:13:05,933 --> 01:13:13,973
Speaker 7: Tier Yet fourteen hundred different types, that's amazing, Yeah, yeah, unbelievable.

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01:13:14,373 --> 01:13:16,893
Speaker 7: And and you know, they go, they're doing all sorts

1451
01:13:16,933 --> 01:13:19,413
Speaker 7: of stuff. They're going to forests into liquid habitats and

1452
01:13:19,453 --> 01:13:21,533
Speaker 7: all that sort of nonsens and tree trunks and in

1453
01:13:21,613 --> 01:13:24,093
Speaker 7: your because they can do quite a bit of damage.

1454
01:13:24,133 --> 01:13:27,493
Speaker 7: Actually yeah, but first of all, let me talk about

1455
01:13:27,693 --> 01:13:31,613
Speaker 7: the native snails. First. They are really not a big deal.

1456
01:13:31,693 --> 01:13:34,373
Speaker 7: They consume dead and decaying leaves and all that sorts

1457
01:13:34,373 --> 01:13:38,013
Speaker 7: of fundy and algy so they're not really yet worried

1458
01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:41,973
Speaker 7: about everything else. So I thought, let's talk about some

1459
01:13:42,133 --> 01:13:45,613
Speaker 7: of these fourteen hundred species that I think are really called.

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01:13:45,613 --> 01:13:49,893
Speaker 7: And the first one is the leaf veined slug, because

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01:13:49,933 --> 01:13:52,093
Speaker 7: it looks like it has the veins of a leaf

1462
01:13:52,173 --> 01:13:53,693
Speaker 7: on the back. You can see it quite.

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01:13:53,573 --> 01:13:55,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've sent us to a photo. It does

1464
01:13:55,333 --> 01:13:55,973
Speaker 3: look a bit like that.

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01:13:56,053 --> 01:14:00,333
Speaker 7: No, it's really nice and they go really quick, by

1466
01:14:00,373 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 7: the way. But the best thing they do is they

1467
01:14:02,173 --> 01:14:05,573
Speaker 7: go outside on your outdoor furniture and things like that

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01:14:05,973 --> 01:14:09,173
Speaker 7: and they clean the surfaces.

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01:14:09,493 --> 01:14:11,893
Speaker 3: Because they eat all of the algae and that kind

1470
01:14:11,893 --> 01:14:14,133
Speaker 3: of stuff that gathers all that kind of musty stuff

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01:14:14,173 --> 01:14:15,453
Speaker 3: on the furniture, right.

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01:14:15,613 --> 01:14:16,093
Speaker 4: You got it.

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01:14:16,373 --> 01:14:18,973
Speaker 7: And they leave trails. That's why I always call them

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01:14:19,013 --> 01:14:21,413
Speaker 7: the wet and forget slug because it looks like that.

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01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:24,613
Speaker 7: That's exactly what they do. It's really cool. So you

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01:14:24,733 --> 01:14:26,173
Speaker 7: find them a lot if you go out of side

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01:14:26,213 --> 01:14:29,053
Speaker 7: with the little torch of course. Yeah. So that was

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01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:32,373
Speaker 7: number one. Number two Perry Fanta, which is a big bugger.

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01:14:32,413 --> 01:14:36,013
Speaker 7: That's the coldie snail, the largest one. We've got, about

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01:14:36,053 --> 01:14:39,613
Speaker 7: eighty millimeters diameter. It occurs all the way from Kaitaia

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01:14:39,813 --> 01:14:44,133
Speaker 7: down to north of Auckland. But then again, I remember

1482
01:14:44,173 --> 01:14:46,813
Speaker 7: that when I lived in Titirangi or in Langholm rather,

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01:14:47,493 --> 01:14:50,333
Speaker 7: I used to have them literally in my garden right

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01:14:50,733 --> 01:14:53,973
Speaker 7: and every evening or afternoon when I do the mowing,

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01:14:54,013 --> 01:14:56,333
Speaker 7: of the lawn. I had to take them away from

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01:14:56,373 --> 01:15:00,053
Speaker 7: the lawn otherwise they would die. The poor things. There,

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01:15:00,093 --> 01:15:04,853
Speaker 7: really beautiful things. But here comes the nicest thing. They

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01:15:05,013 --> 01:15:08,533
Speaker 7: eat worms and they do that by having their body

1489
01:15:09,013 --> 01:15:12,133
Speaker 7: going over the soil, if you like. And if they

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01:15:12,173 --> 01:15:14,253
Speaker 7: find a hole with a worm in it, they go

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01:15:15,693 --> 01:15:18,893
Speaker 7: and they suck the whole worm up as if it

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01:15:19,053 --> 01:15:21,293
Speaker 7: costs nothing. It is really amazing.

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01:15:21,333 --> 01:15:24,533
Speaker 3: So through the hole like spaghetti.

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01:15:24,653 --> 01:15:27,573
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know how you get once there spaghetti?

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01:15:28,333 --> 01:15:30,213
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's a great there's limits.

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01:15:31,493 --> 01:15:34,213
Speaker 7: You can see that at night when you've got them

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01:15:34,213 --> 01:15:36,493
Speaker 7: in northk just just have a look at it. It

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01:15:36,613 --> 01:15:39,613
Speaker 7: is fabulous. That is That is my second wonderful one.

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01:15:40,133 --> 01:15:43,853
Speaker 7: Then the third one I've got Jack is Limus maximus,

1500
01:15:43,893 --> 01:15:47,573
Speaker 7: which literally means the largest slug. I don't I think

1501
01:15:47,613 --> 01:15:50,773
Speaker 7: it's an introduced one, but it's a really nice one.

1502
01:15:50,933 --> 01:15:53,253
Speaker 7: But here comes it. Here comes the thing when you've

1503
01:15:53,293 --> 01:15:56,373
Speaker 7: got cats, for instance, these things go under the door

1504
01:15:56,773 --> 01:16:01,213
Speaker 7: and they find the milk and then they go and

1505
01:16:01,293 --> 01:16:03,813
Speaker 7: it wakes up everybody, including neighbors.

1506
01:16:03,853 --> 01:16:04,493
Speaker 5: It's brillier.

1507
01:16:04,733 --> 01:16:10,253
Speaker 7: The slurp up. It's wonderful, it's good, amazing. So what

1508
01:16:10,333 --> 01:16:12,973
Speaker 7: is the last one? Is the last one is the

1509
01:16:12,973 --> 01:16:15,573
Speaker 7: one you already alluded to. This the one that is

1510
01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:21,293
Speaker 7: about having escaygo. It's comparispersus. It's the brown garden snail.

1511
01:16:21,653 --> 01:16:25,853
Speaker 7: Originally it came from Africa. The French put it into France.

1512
01:16:25,933 --> 01:16:28,653
Speaker 7: They decided that it's good eating, and that is now

1513
01:16:28,733 --> 01:16:31,773
Speaker 7: in France one of the two major ones that they

1514
01:16:31,813 --> 01:16:34,493
Speaker 7: eat escago. So what do we have to do with

1515
01:16:34,493 --> 01:16:38,493
Speaker 7: about the people in New Zealand, Get them, cook them

1516
01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:42,173
Speaker 7: and use them as escago. We instead of poisoning them

1517
01:16:42,173 --> 01:16:45,293
Speaker 7: and doing all this stupid stuff, why don't we start

1518
01:16:46,093 --> 01:16:48,893
Speaker 7: a real escigo team here in New Zealand.

1519
01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:54,173
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm into it. I mean we might

1520
01:16:54,213 --> 01:16:56,053
Speaker 3: have to ramp up production. The problem with you risk

1521
01:16:56,053 --> 01:16:58,973
Speaker 3: cargo is you need you need a fair amount to

1522
01:16:59,013 --> 01:17:01,253
Speaker 3: have a full meal, don't you. But no, I'm into it.

1523
01:17:01,333 --> 01:17:01,533
Speaker 8: Road.

1524
01:17:01,573 --> 01:17:03,333
Speaker 3: I think that could be our It could be a

1525
01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:06,773
Speaker 3: dragon's den, million dollar idea route climb park in the

1526
01:17:06,813 --> 01:17:08,893
Speaker 3: garden for us. This morning, we're just coming up to

1527
01:17:08,933 --> 01:17:10,933
Speaker 3: news time one news talks. He'd be this morning is

1528
01:17:10,933 --> 01:17:15,293
Speaker 3: absolutely you're racing by. But after eleven o'clock we are

1529
01:17:15,573 --> 01:17:18,253
Speaker 3: focusing on the lives of them rich and the famous

1530
01:17:18,693 --> 01:17:20,813
Speaker 3: In our book review, we're going to tell you about

1531
01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:24,173
Speaker 3: this journalists who's released a brand new book on the Murdochs.

1532
01:17:24,453 --> 01:17:26,853
Speaker 3: I roup up Murdoch. The journo has been covering them

1533
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:29,093
Speaker 3: for years. So we'll tell you about Bonfire of the

1534
01:17:29,173 --> 01:17:31,373
Speaker 3: Murdocks and from those who are inheriting millions of those

1535
01:17:31,413 --> 01:17:33,973
Speaker 3: who are trying to win them. Our travel correspondence in

1536
01:17:34,093 --> 01:17:35,853
Speaker 3: Vegas News is next.

1537
01:17:37,573 --> 01:17:41,413
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

1538
01:17:41,453 --> 01:17:42,773
Speaker 1: the weekend news talks.

1539
01:17:42,813 --> 01:18:10,173
Speaker 3: At bed morning, you were jactating on newstalks that would

1540
01:18:10,173 --> 01:18:14,773
Speaker 3: be this long Easter weekend. I hope you're soaking up

1541
01:18:15,053 --> 01:18:17,093
Speaker 3: a little bit of sun wherever you are, although I

1542
01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:18,653
Speaker 3: know that some parts of the country are going to

1543
01:18:18,653 --> 01:18:20,973
Speaker 3: get drenched this weekend. At the very least, wherever you are,

1544
01:18:21,013 --> 01:18:23,813
Speaker 3: you should be able to enjoy a few treats. My goodness,

1545
01:18:24,893 --> 01:18:29,653
Speaker 3: what a tale it has been for the team behind

1546
01:18:29,853 --> 01:18:34,613
Speaker 3: All Birds. Oh. I must confess to feeling a bit, oh,

1547
01:18:34,813 --> 01:18:38,173
Speaker 3: just feeling a real kind of sense of sadness for

1548
01:18:40,013 --> 01:18:42,653
Speaker 3: the whole team Behind All Birds, but in particular Tim Brown,

1549
01:18:42,733 --> 01:18:47,693
Speaker 3: who of course founded it from his little Wellington flat

1550
01:18:47,813 --> 01:18:50,693
Speaker 3: all those years ago. I think Cuba Street was where

1551
01:18:50,733 --> 01:18:53,653
Speaker 3: All Birds first began. I actually went in film with

1552
01:18:53,733 --> 01:18:57,053
Speaker 3: him years ago in San Francisco when he had first

1553
01:18:57,173 --> 01:18:59,093
Speaker 3: taken the brand to San Francisco and they were first

1554
01:18:59,093 --> 01:19:03,573
Speaker 3: starting to build the company into a serious company rather

1555
01:19:03,653 --> 01:19:05,773
Speaker 3: than just a bit of a startup idea with a kickstarter,

1556
01:19:06,413 --> 01:19:08,573
Speaker 3: And it was one of these things where I went

1557
01:19:08,613 --> 01:19:11,173
Speaker 3: and met them in the in the San Francisco office

1558
01:19:11,253 --> 01:19:14,413
Speaker 3: and film with them, and you know, saw some of

1559
01:19:14,453 --> 01:19:16,333
Speaker 3: the shoes that were being made and stuff, and afterwards

1560
01:19:16,373 --> 01:19:17,973
Speaker 3: I thought, my gosh, they actually do seem like a

1561
01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:19,973
Speaker 3: really cool idea. And I tried on a pair of

1562
01:19:20,013 --> 01:19:23,333
Speaker 3: shoes and thought, oh, these are amazing. They're so comfortable,

1563
01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:26,213
Speaker 3: and so I started wearing them. And then I was

1564
01:19:26,253 --> 01:19:28,373
Speaker 3: living in New York at the time. Over the next

1565
01:19:28,453 --> 01:19:31,613
Speaker 3: six months or so, increasingly I started to notice people

1566
01:19:31,653 --> 01:19:34,613
Speaker 3: wearing All Birds and I thought, this is astonishing. This

1567
01:19:34,693 --> 01:19:38,533
Speaker 3: guy has managed to build this brand out of Wellington,

1568
01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:43,093
Speaker 3: go and get investors and take on the world. So

1569
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:45,893
Speaker 3: at its peak, I think after it listed on the Nasdaq,

1570
01:19:46,053 --> 01:19:50,093
Speaker 3: the All Birds Company was valued at almost seven billion

1571
01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 3: dollars my goodness. So they have had a rough couple

1572
01:19:53,253 --> 01:19:55,573
Speaker 3: of years. So confirmation this week that all of their

1573
01:19:55,573 --> 01:19:58,933
Speaker 3: assets have been sold down for just under seventy million dollars,

1574
01:19:59,053 --> 01:20:04,693
Speaker 3: one percent compared to their previous peak valuation. And I

1575
01:20:04,693 --> 01:20:08,773
Speaker 3: don't know. It's I'm no f and I'm no business mastermind,

1576
01:20:08,773 --> 01:20:10,053
Speaker 3: but it seems to me there are a couple of

1577
01:20:10,133 --> 01:20:12,173
Speaker 3: things at play when you think about the trajectory of

1578
01:20:12,213 --> 01:20:15,573
Speaker 3: the company over the last teen or fifteen years. So

1579
01:20:15,693 --> 01:20:17,453
Speaker 3: first of all, when they had that breakthrough when they

1580
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:22,293
Speaker 3: showed that you could make wall shoes that were super lightweight, breathable,

1581
01:20:22,573 --> 01:20:25,533
Speaker 3: super comfortable, they were everywhere. They were kind of the

1582
01:20:25,613 --> 01:20:27,773
Speaker 3: it shoe for a little window there. The likes of

1583
01:20:27,813 --> 01:20:31,293
Speaker 3: Barack Obama were wearing All Birds. They were felt like

1584
01:20:31,373 --> 01:20:34,333
Speaker 3: they were sort of the it shoe for the Silicon

1585
01:20:34,413 --> 01:20:39,493
Speaker 3: Valley crowd. And then very quickly there were various companies

1586
01:20:39,573 --> 01:20:43,173
Speaker 3: through Amazon that seemed to be making ripoffs of All Birds,

1587
01:20:43,373 --> 01:20:46,533
Speaker 3: very similar looking shoe, maybe not with quite the same

1588
01:20:46,653 --> 01:20:49,053
Speaker 3: kind of production standards and all that stuff, but they

1589
01:20:49,093 --> 01:20:52,373
Speaker 3: were sold way way cheaper than All Birds, and the

1590
01:20:52,413 --> 01:20:55,693
Speaker 3: company kind of went on a trajectory where they were

1591
01:20:55,733 --> 01:21:00,933
Speaker 3: really trying to prioritize their eco credentials, so they wanted

1592
01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:04,293
Speaker 3: to have a shoe that could be carbon positive that

1593
01:21:04,333 --> 01:21:07,573
Speaker 3: effectively was putting more carbon, bringing more carbon out of

1594
01:21:07,573 --> 01:21:10,453
Speaker 3: the atmosphere than it was putting into it, and they

1595
01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:12,653
Speaker 3: really prioritized that as a message. But I don't know,

1596
01:21:12,693 --> 01:21:16,933
Speaker 3: it felt like they kind of slipped off the aesthetic

1597
01:21:17,013 --> 01:21:19,693
Speaker 3: side of things. So whereas they'd been the cool shoe

1598
01:21:19,733 --> 01:21:21,893
Speaker 3: to be seen wearing, all of a sudden, there were

1599
01:21:21,933 --> 01:21:24,733
Speaker 3: lots of shoes that looked very similar, and just because

1600
01:21:24,733 --> 01:21:26,773
Speaker 3: they'd been cool one minute, it didn't mean that they

1601
01:21:26,773 --> 01:21:30,733
Speaker 3: were able to stay cool. I mean, cool moves quickly. Again,

1602
01:21:30,813 --> 01:21:33,653
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert on this front, but cool moves quickly.

1603
01:21:33,693 --> 01:21:36,493
Speaker 3: And it feels like after that original shoe they never

1604
01:21:36,733 --> 01:21:42,133
Speaker 3: really quite nailed it ever again. And yeah, whereas once

1605
01:21:42,213 --> 01:21:43,653
Speaker 3: upon a time it was the thing to be seen

1606
01:21:43,693 --> 01:21:45,893
Speaker 3: wearing all birds, all of a sudden, it wasn't. And

1607
01:21:45,933 --> 01:21:48,053
Speaker 3: they've just never really been able to get that back.

1608
01:21:48,093 --> 01:21:52,093
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Maybe they prioritized the carbon stuff

1609
01:21:52,293 --> 01:21:56,293
Speaker 3: over the aesthetic fashion stuff maybe, or maybe it's just

1610
01:21:56,493 --> 01:22:00,013
Speaker 3: really really hard to have more than a one hit

1611
01:22:00,093 --> 01:22:03,773
Speaker 3: wonder when you are a fashion or apparel brand trying

1612
01:22:03,813 --> 01:22:06,333
Speaker 3: to break into a world where a few big companies

1613
01:22:06,413 --> 01:22:09,453
Speaker 3: dominate anything. But anyway, I felt really sad this week

1614
01:22:10,213 --> 01:22:12,573
Speaker 3: to see All Birds sold off for one percent of

1615
01:22:12,613 --> 01:22:15,893
Speaker 3: their previous valuation. I've still got a pair actually of

1616
01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:19,413
Speaker 3: All Birds. I think they are limited edition Bird of

1617
01:22:19,493 --> 01:22:23,093
Speaker 3: the Year Kia all Birds from I don't know five

1618
01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:25,213
Speaker 3: or seven years ago that I might hold on to.

1619
01:22:25,413 --> 01:22:28,773
Speaker 3: Like I say, they're still extremely comfortable. But yeah, that

1620
01:22:28,853 --> 01:22:31,253
Speaker 3: company not worth anything like it once was just a

1621
01:22:31,293 --> 01:22:33,973
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Now before a day on news talks,

1622
01:22:34,013 --> 01:22:35,573
Speaker 3: he'd be We're going to have a listen to Arlo

1623
01:22:35,813 --> 01:22:38,973
Speaker 3: Park's brand new album. She's a British singer songwriter from

1624
01:22:38,973 --> 01:22:43,613
Speaker 3: the South of London who writes really interesting, kind of

1625
01:22:43,613 --> 01:22:47,733
Speaker 3: introspective pop music. So we'll play you some of Ambiguous Desire,

1626
01:22:47,813 --> 01:22:49,653
Speaker 3: which is the name of a new album before midday.

1627
01:22:49,693 --> 01:22:51,093
Speaker 3: As well as that, we've got your book picks for

1628
01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:59,133
Speaker 3: this weekend, including this fascinating new biography exploring the contest

1629
01:22:59,253 --> 01:23:03,893
Speaker 3: within the Murdoch family. It's called Bonfire of the Murdox.

1630
01:23:03,933 --> 01:23:07,013
Speaker 3: It looks at Rupert Murdoch's rise, but also the contest

1631
01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:09,893
Speaker 3: between his children to take over the Murdoch Empire. So

1632
01:23:09,893 --> 01:23:11,853
Speaker 3: we'll give you a few more details on that very shortly.

1633
01:23:11,973 --> 01:23:16,773
Speaker 3: Right now it is twelve minutes past eleven. Team Doogle

1634
01:23:16,813 --> 01:23:19,773
Speaker 3: Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being, our clinical psychologist, is with

1635
01:23:19,853 --> 01:23:24,013
Speaker 3: us this morning talking meaningful connections this Easter weekend. Get

1636
01:23:24,013 --> 01:23:25,853
Speaker 3: a dourgle cured to Jack.

1637
01:23:25,973 --> 01:23:28,493
Speaker 9: Yes, it seems the perfect time, really, doesn't it, to

1638
01:23:28,533 --> 01:23:31,333
Speaker 9: be connecting with people. I was just listening to your

1639
01:23:31,373 --> 01:23:34,533
Speaker 9: interview with some Stephen k Amos around. You know, the

1640
01:23:34,573 --> 01:23:39,213
Speaker 9: connecting power of humor around laughing, And I think in

1641
01:23:39,293 --> 01:23:41,093
Speaker 9: this sort of day and age, the more that we

1642
01:23:41,173 --> 01:23:45,253
Speaker 9: can get connections with other people, the better. Frankly, I

1643
01:23:45,293 --> 01:23:48,653
Speaker 9: think it would help many many things in our lives

1644
01:23:48,733 --> 01:23:50,933
Speaker 9: and in our worldy.

1645
01:23:50,973 --> 01:23:53,773
Speaker 3: Isn't it of the digital age? We are more connected

1646
01:23:53,773 --> 01:23:56,133
Speaker 3: than ever and yet somehow less connected than ever. It

1647
01:23:56,213 --> 01:23:59,453
Speaker 3: is that this great tragedy of the of the technical

1648
01:23:59,493 --> 01:24:02,573
Speaker 3: and technological innovation of the last few decades.

1649
01:24:03,253 --> 01:24:07,293
Speaker 9: One hundred percent And this new survey from from two Degrees,

1650
01:24:07,453 --> 01:24:10,053
Speaker 9: it says exactly that they say, like two of the

1651
01:24:10,213 --> 01:24:14,853
Speaker 9: key finding sixty seven percent of us would like will

1652
01:24:15,213 --> 01:24:18,733
Speaker 9: say that a meaningful conversation is hard to come by.

1653
01:24:19,533 --> 01:24:23,373
Speaker 9: So that's two thirds of us saying that, And yet

1654
01:24:23,453 --> 01:24:27,293
Speaker 9: we are nine times more likely to scroll on our

1655
01:24:27,373 --> 01:24:29,773
Speaker 9: phones than to pick up the than to use the

1656
01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:32,693
Speaker 9: phone and actually call someone. So we're kind of this

1657
01:24:33,133 --> 01:24:35,573
Speaker 9: where where it paints a picture of sort of us

1658
01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:40,213
Speaker 9: desperately wanting human connection and just not kind of getting there.

1659
01:24:40,253 --> 01:24:43,053
Speaker 4: We just sort of get distracted by the.

1660
01:24:42,813 --> 01:24:45,133
Speaker 9: Phone and the well, not the phone. The phone's not

1661
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:48,733
Speaker 9: the problem. It's the scrolling, really, and you get tied

1662
01:24:48,813 --> 01:24:53,133
Speaker 9: up in your social media and the endless scroll. You know, once,

1663
01:24:53,413 --> 01:24:55,853
Speaker 9: can you ever get to the bottom of your chosen

1664
01:24:55,893 --> 01:24:59,253
Speaker 9: social media platform? Probably not, But doing that at the

1665
01:24:59,373 --> 01:25:03,413
Speaker 9: expense of actually calling people and just having a meaningful conversation,

1666
01:25:03,573 --> 01:25:05,973
Speaker 9: which is I think so much more important than just

1667
01:25:06,413 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 9: alling around on your social media.

1668
01:25:08,253 --> 01:25:10,893
Speaker 3: So I reckon there are a couple of upsides to it, like,

1669
01:25:10,973 --> 01:25:15,813
Speaker 3: for example, I think one of the great things for connectivity,

1670
01:25:15,853 --> 01:25:18,133
Speaker 3: at least in my experience. I mean, obviously it's easier

1671
01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:19,973
Speaker 3: to keep in touch with people who are overseas and

1672
01:25:20,013 --> 01:25:21,813
Speaker 3: you know, that kind of thing that was in the past.

1673
01:25:22,413 --> 01:25:24,733
Speaker 3: But one thing I really like is in our family,

1674
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:27,933
Speaker 3: we run a we have a WhatsApp chat. Yeah, we

1675
01:25:27,973 --> 01:25:29,933
Speaker 3: can all kind of contribute to it, and it does

1676
01:25:30,173 --> 01:25:32,693
Speaker 3: seem to me, like it's really easy for the family

1677
01:25:32,773 --> 01:25:37,493
Speaker 3: to have kind of family wide communication in a way

1678
01:25:37,533 --> 01:25:40,093
Speaker 3: that we never were able to before, and that there

1679
01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:42,573
Speaker 3: is something meaningful on that. Like even for example, like

1680
01:25:42,613 --> 01:25:46,493
Speaker 3: we just share like silly photos or you know, like

1681
01:25:46,573 --> 01:25:49,853
Speaker 3: in jokes. WhatsApp Chat is a really good place for

1682
01:25:49,893 --> 01:25:52,573
Speaker 3: sharing in jokes, and that is meaningful connection. But like

1683
01:25:52,613 --> 01:25:55,493
Speaker 3: you say, like the number of times I speak on

1684
01:25:55,493 --> 01:25:58,773
Speaker 3: the phone compared to what we were dound twenty years ago,

1685
01:25:59,213 --> 01:26:01,893
Speaker 3: compared to a text or something, Yeah, it's.

1686
01:26:03,773 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 8: I agree.

1687
01:26:04,253 --> 01:26:08,413
Speaker 9: I think those sort of things, like the texts and

1688
01:26:06,733 --> 01:26:10,413
Speaker 9: and the social media stuff a bit like I always

1689
01:26:10,413 --> 01:26:12,733
Speaker 9: think they're a bit like postcards. You know, back in

1690
01:26:12,733 --> 01:26:14,333
Speaker 9: the day, you would send a postcard and it's just

1691
01:26:14,373 --> 01:26:16,933
Speaker 9: an update on what my life is like. But it's

1692
01:26:17,013 --> 01:26:22,173
Speaker 9: not really that interactive communicate that interactive thing, and sure

1693
01:26:22,173 --> 01:26:25,413
Speaker 9: it can supplement it. But interesting this two degrees studies

1694
01:26:25,453 --> 01:26:28,533
Speaker 9: said that seventy cent of it, seventy seven sorry percent

1695
01:26:28,573 --> 01:26:31,773
Speaker 9: of us feel better after we've had a phone call

1696
01:26:31,813 --> 01:26:34,413
Speaker 9: with a loved one. So it does have that payoff,

1697
01:26:34,893 --> 01:26:37,173
Speaker 9: I think. And you know, if you've been catching up

1698
01:26:37,213 --> 01:26:39,533
Speaker 9: with you know, if you've been monitoring people via social

1699
01:26:39,973 --> 01:26:42,213
Speaker 9: media monitoring is possibly not the right word, sounds of

1700
01:26:42,213 --> 01:26:43,973
Speaker 9: it sort of nineteen eighty fourst But keeping up with

1701
01:26:44,013 --> 01:26:45,653
Speaker 9: them then you've got more to chat about when you

1702
01:26:45,653 --> 01:26:50,093
Speaker 9: actually do ring them and have a call. But it's

1703
01:26:50,533 --> 01:26:53,493
Speaker 9: and the sad news too, is that it seems worse

1704
01:26:53,613 --> 01:26:57,733
Speaker 9: for gen Z. Gen Z reports sort of higher rates

1705
01:26:57,893 --> 01:27:03,533
Speaker 9: of of having meaningful conversations and even higher rates of

1706
01:27:03,613 --> 01:27:05,573
Speaker 9: feeling better when they actually talk on the phone, and

1707
01:27:05,733 --> 01:27:09,453
Speaker 9: they probably scre rolling more than the rest of us.

1708
01:27:09,973 --> 01:27:12,053
Speaker 9: But I would say when I read that, I thought

1709
01:27:12,653 --> 01:27:16,453
Speaker 9: it's easy to bag on gen Z. But I remember,

1710
01:27:16,453 --> 01:27:18,133
Speaker 9: and I was talking about this to somebody in the

1711
01:27:18,173 --> 01:27:21,773
Speaker 9: office during the week. I remember my first job when

1712
01:27:21,813 --> 01:27:24,533
Speaker 9: I was sort of early twenties, and the anxiety that

1713
01:27:24,733 --> 01:27:26,893
Speaker 9: was filled with actually having to make a phone call

1714
01:27:26,973 --> 01:27:30,493
Speaker 9: to somebody. It was like, oh, and you know you'd

1715
01:27:30,493 --> 01:27:33,013
Speaker 9: write it down. My name is Dourgle and I am

1716
01:27:33,013 --> 01:27:36,213
Speaker 9: a clinical and you know it it all written down

1717
01:27:36,373 --> 01:27:38,333
Speaker 9: so that I could And there's nothing better for social

1718
01:27:38,333 --> 01:27:46,653
Speaker 9: communications and reading out a scripted So I think that's

1719
01:27:46,653 --> 01:27:50,093
Speaker 9: a bit of a generational thing, and actually the survey

1720
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:51,933
Speaker 9: results kind of backed that up. But by saying that

1721
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:55,653
Speaker 9: people often don't call because I think I might interrupt somebody,

1722
01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:57,893
Speaker 9: or you know, it might not be okay for them,

1723
01:27:57,973 --> 01:28:00,813
Speaker 9: or they might not know who I am. But you know,

1724
01:28:00,853 --> 01:28:02,613
Speaker 9: you can always text that stuff and you know, say

1725
01:28:02,653 --> 01:28:04,413
Speaker 9: hey is it you know you called to talk now,

1726
01:28:04,533 --> 01:28:06,333
Speaker 9: or this is who I am, and then follow it

1727
01:28:06,453 --> 01:28:07,333
Speaker 9: up with a phone call.

1728
01:28:07,453 --> 01:28:09,333
Speaker 4: So yeah.

1729
01:28:09,373 --> 01:28:11,093
Speaker 3: But the funny thing is that I would also say

1730
01:28:11,133 --> 01:28:13,373
Speaker 3: that even though we don't speak on the phone as much,

1731
01:28:13,453 --> 01:28:17,053
Speaker 3: when when you do have good conversations, because the barriers

1732
01:28:17,093 --> 01:28:21,173
Speaker 3: to communication is so much lower than they yeahs and everything,

1733
01:28:21,253 --> 01:28:25,253
Speaker 3: you can actually like I'll happily just ring someone sometimes yes,

1734
01:28:25,533 --> 01:28:27,253
Speaker 3: and they'll be like, hey, I've got like three minutes

1735
01:28:27,293 --> 01:28:28,653
Speaker 3: and then I got a shoot and nobody like yeah,

1736
01:28:28,693 --> 01:28:30,773
Speaker 3: you're good, you know. And it's not like in the past,

1737
01:28:30,813 --> 01:28:33,093
Speaker 3: where you know a few people overseas you'd have to

1738
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:36,213
Speaker 3: schedule a time and the arrange to talk on the phone,

1739
01:28:36,333 --> 01:28:38,813
Speaker 3: and you know, it's a really good and every second

1740
01:28:38,853 --> 01:28:41,533
Speaker 3: you're thinking, right, okay, this is costing me a dollar

1741
01:28:41,573 --> 01:28:45,373
Speaker 3: a minute.

1742
01:28:41,973 --> 01:28:42,053
Speaker 10: And.

1743
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:46,813
Speaker 9: You can devestrate into right because you know you've you've

1744
01:28:46,853 --> 01:28:49,013
Speaker 9: perhaps been catching up with their life and you've seen

1745
01:28:49,133 --> 01:28:51,813
Speaker 9: something Oh look, you know they've they've done such and such,

1746
01:28:51,853 --> 01:28:54,613
Speaker 9: they've had such a big experience or or this bad

1747
01:28:54,653 --> 01:28:56,693
Speaker 9: things have Actually I'll call them. And I think that's

1748
01:28:56,693 --> 01:29:01,293
Speaker 9: our challenge, is actually giving people a ring. And I

1749
01:29:01,293 --> 01:29:03,293
Speaker 9: think perfect to be talking about it over Easter, right

1750
01:29:03,333 --> 01:29:05,773
Speaker 9: because almost all of us have got a couple of

1751
01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:09,933
Speaker 9: days extra off when lots of things are closed, you know,

1752
01:29:09,973 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 9: everything's closed or most things are closed again tomorrow on Sunday,

1753
01:29:14,053 --> 01:29:19,293
Speaker 9: and perfect opportunity, I reckon to actually call somebody and look,

1754
01:29:19,533 --> 01:29:22,093
Speaker 9: I've had this experience of getting into the habit. My

1755
01:29:22,213 --> 01:29:24,413
Speaker 9: mum is getting a bit older, and I've started to

1756
01:29:24,453 --> 01:29:27,493
Speaker 9: get into the habit of giving her a call every

1757
01:29:27,573 --> 01:29:30,133
Speaker 9: week on a Sunday, just kind of a regular thing,

1758
01:29:30,253 --> 01:29:32,973
Speaker 9: just to hear her voice and for her to hear mine.

1759
01:29:33,613 --> 01:29:35,933
Speaker 9: And it's actually been really nice. I've really started to

1760
01:29:36,053 --> 01:29:38,493
Speaker 9: enjoy it. And last Sunday, I think we spent like

1761
01:29:38,533 --> 01:29:40,533
Speaker 9: an hour and a half on the phone just talking.

1762
01:29:40,253 --> 01:29:42,493
Speaker 4: And it was like, good Lord, who would have thought that?

1763
01:29:42,733 --> 01:29:45,813
Speaker 9: But you know, just that will be my challenge to

1764
01:29:45,853 --> 01:29:49,373
Speaker 9: people this Easter weekend, as if you know, pick up

1765
01:29:49,413 --> 01:29:51,893
Speaker 9: the phone and make it. If you're not sure, if

1766
01:29:51,893 --> 01:29:53,573
Speaker 9: you're not sure, if it's going to be right. Just look,

1767
01:29:53,613 --> 01:29:55,413
Speaker 9: I'm a text and say hey, you know it was

1768
01:29:55,453 --> 01:29:57,773
Speaker 9: going to call you sometime this weekend. Win suits and

1769
01:29:57,813 --> 01:30:00,573
Speaker 9: then give them a call and see what a difference

1770
01:30:00,573 --> 01:30:01,013
Speaker 9: it makes.

1771
01:30:01,573 --> 01:30:04,573
Speaker 3: Can you remember people's phone numbers? Can you do that?

1772
01:30:04,693 --> 01:30:04,733
Speaker 10: No?

1773
01:30:05,533 --> 01:30:07,253
Speaker 9: No, no.

1774
01:30:07,453 --> 01:30:09,933
Speaker 6: Have you ever tried to go in and fill out a.

1775
01:30:09,853 --> 01:30:12,973
Speaker 9: Form or fill form online and they say what's the

1776
01:30:12,973 --> 01:30:15,213
Speaker 9: phone number of your next of ken? Then I say

1777
01:30:15,493 --> 01:30:19,933
Speaker 9: or R A, C H E L and what's the phone?

1778
01:30:19,933 --> 01:30:23,093
Speaker 9: I don't know what the phone number is, but yeah, yeah, no, no,

1779
01:30:23,133 --> 01:30:24,493
Speaker 9: and you have to pull out your phone and go

1780
01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:29,693
Speaker 9: two two one, yeah two, oh yeah, no, I can't think.

1781
01:30:29,733 --> 01:30:32,653
Speaker 3: I can remember maybe three, including my own. I can

1782
01:30:32,733 --> 01:30:35,533
Speaker 3: remember mine, my wife's and maybe my mum's as well.

1783
01:30:35,613 --> 01:30:37,373
Speaker 3: That might be yeah, yeah, yeah.

1784
01:30:37,413 --> 01:30:39,053
Speaker 9: Well I don't know if it's helpful, but I can

1785
01:30:39,133 --> 01:30:41,053
Speaker 9: remember my phone number when I was from when I

1786
01:30:41,133 --> 01:30:42,773
Speaker 9: was about eight living in Dunedin.

1787
01:30:42,813 --> 01:30:46,173
Speaker 3: But it yeah, it had.

1788
01:30:46,093 --> 01:30:49,493
Speaker 9: Only had five digits. Yeah yeah, but I don't think

1789
01:30:49,533 --> 01:30:52,573
Speaker 9: it's used anymore, so it's not particularly helpful at all,

1790
01:30:52,613 --> 01:30:54,693
Speaker 9: but it's it's embedded in my long term memory.

1791
01:30:55,013 --> 01:30:57,653
Speaker 3: I've got that same feeling with our childhood phone number.

1792
01:30:57,653 --> 01:31:00,653
Speaker 3: In fact, every time I you know, even like we'll

1793
01:31:00,693 --> 01:31:03,933
Speaker 3: go through stuff that's kind of survived, you know, the generations,

1794
01:31:04,013 --> 01:31:07,373
Speaker 3: be it bookboards or tramping pa and that kind of thing,

1795
01:31:07,453 --> 01:31:13,053
Speaker 3: and often in huge letters burned in with the most permanent,

1796
01:31:13,213 --> 01:31:15,573
Speaker 3: permanent markets as much after the phone number. You know,

1797
01:31:16,053 --> 01:31:18,773
Speaker 3: I'm like that great, I'm really glad that dad did this.

1798
01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:22,613
Speaker 9: Because yeah, we get little We used to get printed

1799
01:31:22,653 --> 01:31:24,773
Speaker 9: out labels, I think, and you could sew them, you know,

1800
01:31:24,893 --> 01:31:27,213
Speaker 9: your mum would sew them into your clothes with so

1801
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,333
Speaker 9: that it had your surname and your phone number on

1802
01:31:29,413 --> 01:31:31,853
Speaker 9: the back of your school jersey in case in case

1803
01:31:31,893 --> 01:31:35,533
Speaker 9: you lost it, which at some point, but no, we

1804
01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:37,533
Speaker 9: don't do really that much anymore.

1805
01:31:37,573 --> 01:31:39,613
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's so good. Hey, love that. Hey, thank

1806
01:31:39,613 --> 01:31:41,733
Speaker 3: you very much. Have a great Easter weekend and we

1807
01:31:41,813 --> 01:31:44,213
Speaker 3: will catch you again soon. Google Sutherland. They're from Umbrella

1808
01:31:44,293 --> 01:31:47,813
Speaker 3: Well Being. In a couple of minutes, we are taking

1809
01:31:47,893 --> 01:31:51,533
Speaker 3: you to Nevada, of all places. Our travel correspondent is

1810
01:31:51,533 --> 01:31:54,613
Speaker 3: going to give us his latest picks in Las Vegas,

1811
01:31:54,973 --> 01:31:57,093
Speaker 3: so he'll be with us shortly. Twenty one past eleven.

1812
01:31:57,733 --> 01:32:00,933
Speaker 4: Travel with Wendy wo Tours where the world is yours

1813
01:32:01,133 --> 01:32:01,573
Speaker 4: for now.

1814
01:32:02,453 --> 01:32:05,653
Speaker 3: Travel correspondence Mike Yardly, he's taking us to the Las

1815
01:32:05,813 --> 01:32:08,933
Speaker 3: Vegas have arted this morning for the latest and greatest

1816
01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:11,053
Speaker 3: in Sin City. And it's not the sort of place

1817
01:32:11,133 --> 01:32:13,093
Speaker 3: that rests on its laurels, is it, mate?

1818
01:32:14,093 --> 01:32:16,693
Speaker 18: This is very true, Jack, Yes, I was thinking Vegas

1819
01:32:16,853 --> 01:32:20,253
Speaker 18: is more like a globulous shape shifting organism.

1820
01:32:20,453 --> 01:32:24,053
Speaker 4: You know, it's always it's always on the search for biggest.

1821
01:32:23,853 --> 01:32:28,573
Speaker 3: Prescribed as globulus, isn't it. This is very true.

1822
01:32:28,613 --> 01:32:31,693
Speaker 18: But I mean the latest Star specimen, which I checked

1823
01:32:31,733 --> 01:32:34,973
Speaker 18: out a couple of weeks ago, is undeniably the Sphere.

1824
01:32:35,853 --> 01:32:38,213
Speaker 18: I've heard a lot about the Sphere and it really

1825
01:32:38,413 --> 01:32:42,013
Speaker 18: is quite trippy. So they are saying in Vegas this

1826
01:32:42,173 --> 01:32:45,173
Speaker 18: is the entertainment venue of the future because it's just

1827
01:32:45,253 --> 01:32:49,453
Speaker 18: got so much immersive technology. And interestingly, Jacob, you are

1828
01:32:49,493 --> 01:32:52,173
Speaker 18: going there in the next few months. I noticed the Eagles,

1829
01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:56,133
Speaker 18: Backstreet Boys, and Metallica all have residencies in the Sphere

1830
01:32:57,133 --> 01:32:59,093
Speaker 18: over the next few months. But even if you don't

1831
01:32:59,213 --> 01:33:05,253
Speaker 18: venture inside what is the world's largest spherical structure, it's

1832
01:33:05,293 --> 01:33:09,093
Speaker 18: from the outside that it's just so remarkable. So that

1833
01:33:09,293 --> 01:33:13,973
Speaker 18: exterior skin, which they call the Exo Sphere. Yeah, it's

1834
01:33:14,053 --> 01:33:16,693
Speaker 18: become the greatest advertising billboard in the world and it

1835
01:33:16,853 --> 01:33:20,493
Speaker 18: is just positively eye popping to see in the flesh.

1836
01:33:20,933 --> 01:33:24,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks amazing, Like I really, It's one of

1837
01:33:24,693 --> 01:33:28,973
Speaker 3: those things where like just I constantly, you know, I

1838
01:33:29,133 --> 01:33:31,653
Speaker 3: often think about wanting to go there, and not for

1839
01:33:31,693 --> 01:33:33,573
Speaker 3: the rest of the city, but just to experience the

1840
01:33:33,653 --> 01:33:37,213
Speaker 3: sphere itself, because it does look extraordinary. I'm always amazed

1841
01:33:37,253 --> 01:33:39,693
Speaker 3: that they don't like accidentally bring down planes and things.

1842
01:33:39,733 --> 01:33:43,493
Speaker 3: That's so bright, you know. Anyway, what about the strip

1843
01:33:43,533 --> 01:33:46,333
Speaker 3: itself has that smart and dantec Does it change at all?

1844
01:33:47,533 --> 01:33:47,973
Speaker 5: Interesting?

1845
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:50,733
Speaker 18: Yeah, because it's been ten years since I was last

1846
01:33:50,773 --> 01:33:54,333
Speaker 18: in Vegas and the whole scene feels cleaner and classier,

1847
01:33:54,973 --> 01:33:57,533
Speaker 18: and without being too judgy, I think it is that

1848
01:33:57,773 --> 01:34:01,093
Speaker 18: Vegas has decided we're not just going to pander to

1849
01:34:01,213 --> 01:34:06,213
Speaker 18: the Singleton Shorts brigade. And by the way, Robotax is

1850
01:34:06,373 --> 01:34:08,013
Speaker 18: as you will know, Jack, they're on the March in

1851
01:34:08,093 --> 01:34:11,293
Speaker 18: the US. If you're heading to Vegas, take a ride

1852
01:34:11,373 --> 01:34:14,293
Speaker 18: in a Zooks. So this is not a car, it's

1853
01:34:14,413 --> 01:34:17,933
Speaker 18: more like a glass cabin on wheels and it will

1854
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:21,253
Speaker 18: just zip you all over sin city with autonomous Precision.

1855
01:34:21,293 --> 01:34:24,013
Speaker 18: It's an Amazon product, but Vegas is one of the

1856
01:34:24,053 --> 01:34:28,293
Speaker 18: two test cities. Sanfran Is also been used at the moment,

1857
01:34:28,373 --> 01:34:30,893
Speaker 18: and you can hail a ride with the zooks for

1858
01:34:31,133 --> 01:34:33,693
Speaker 18: free at the moment with the app. So I think

1859
01:34:33,733 --> 01:34:37,293
Speaker 18: they're offering free rides this year in Vegas. So yes,

1860
01:34:37,333 --> 01:34:37,853
Speaker 18: super cool.

1861
01:34:38,333 --> 01:34:41,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. I suppose it's to try and help

1862
01:34:41,373 --> 01:34:43,613
Speaker 3: its machine learning and all that kind of thing. But then, yes,

1863
01:34:44,053 --> 01:34:45,693
Speaker 3: sound like a bit of fun. Vegas is making a

1864
01:34:45,733 --> 01:34:47,213
Speaker 3: big move into the sports market to.

1865
01:34:48,693 --> 01:34:49,093
Speaker 4: Massive.

1866
01:34:49,293 --> 01:34:51,693
Speaker 18: Yeah, so obviously people will know about the F one

1867
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:54,693
Speaker 18: that street circuit down the strip that's become such a

1868
01:34:54,773 --> 01:34:59,413
Speaker 18: highlight on the F one roster. Allegiant Stadium, Oh my goodness,

1869
01:34:59,733 --> 01:35:02,893
Speaker 18: what a venue. Go and check out Allegiant Stadium on

1870
01:35:02,973 --> 01:35:05,773
Speaker 18: a tour. They hosted Super Bowl two years ago and

1871
01:35:06,013 --> 01:35:09,613
Speaker 18: this it's just been confirmed they will host Super Bowl

1872
01:35:09,853 --> 01:35:13,853
Speaker 18: again in two years time. And across the road from

1873
01:35:13,973 --> 01:35:18,493
Speaker 18: Ndolai Bejack, I was gazing over a four billion dollar

1874
01:35:18,853 --> 01:35:24,373
Speaker 18: basketball arena which is currently been constructed. So they're expanding

1875
01:35:24,493 --> 01:35:28,093
Speaker 18: the NBA league and Vegas is gunning to get a team,

1876
01:35:28,573 --> 01:35:32,173
Speaker 18: you know, sort of home base for this glitzy new arena.

1877
01:35:32,293 --> 01:35:35,933
Speaker 18: So yeah, Live Sport is definitely the new god in

1878
01:35:36,093 --> 01:35:36,613
Speaker 18: Sin City.

1879
01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:39,973
Speaker 3: What are the best free attractions in Las Vegas?

1880
01:35:41,213 --> 01:35:45,333
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, for all the latest bling the classics, they

1881
01:35:45,453 --> 01:35:49,373
Speaker 18: still resonate, and none more so than those Billagio fountains.

1882
01:35:49,453 --> 01:35:52,493
Speaker 18: There are plenty of imitations around the world. I'm looking

1883
01:35:52,573 --> 01:35:56,293
Speaker 18: at you do Bai, but you cannot beat the original.

1884
01:35:56,413 --> 01:35:59,333
Speaker 18: And I was just watching the crowd, you know, thousands

1885
01:35:59,413 --> 01:36:02,533
Speaker 18: and thousands of people just stopping in their tracks to

1886
01:36:02,613 --> 01:36:07,333
Speaker 18: watch these incredible dancing fountains. They are gorge There are

1887
01:36:07,533 --> 01:36:11,613
Speaker 18: so many free attractions in the Strip hotels. My favorite

1888
01:36:11,653 --> 01:36:15,413
Speaker 18: would actually be The Fall of atlanis animatronics show, which

1889
01:36:15,493 --> 01:36:19,733
Speaker 18: you can find inside Caesar's Palace. I used to love

1890
01:36:19,893 --> 01:36:24,813
Speaker 18: watching the volcano erupting outside the mirage. I was sad

1891
01:36:24,893 --> 01:36:27,573
Speaker 18: to discover a couple of weeks ago that's gone. It's

1892
01:36:27,653 --> 01:36:31,333
Speaker 18: been bold, but taking its place is the new hard

1893
01:36:31,453 --> 01:36:35,973
Speaker 18: rock Hotel Jack, and they are building a fifty story

1894
01:36:36,613 --> 01:36:38,933
Speaker 18: guitar shaped at tower as you.

1895
01:36:38,973 --> 01:36:42,773
Speaker 3: Do yees, yeah, I mean even just the people watching

1896
01:36:42,813 --> 01:36:46,373
Speaker 3: it going out on the watching. Yeah, you certainly get

1897
01:36:46,453 --> 01:36:49,853
Speaker 3: some color, to say the least. So for oddes school vibes.

1898
01:36:49,933 --> 01:36:51,733
Speaker 3: What hotels on the stats did you check out?

1899
01:36:53,133 --> 01:36:56,773
Speaker 18: Well, all things Elvis is trending. So if you want

1900
01:36:56,813 --> 01:37:00,733
Speaker 18: to check out the hotel where he notoriously performed night

1901
01:37:00,773 --> 01:37:03,253
Speaker 18: after night, year after year and the lead up to

1902
01:37:03,373 --> 01:37:07,373
Speaker 18: his death, go to the West Kate Hotel formerly known

1903
01:37:07,413 --> 01:37:10,613
Speaker 18: as the International, now known as Westgate. You can even

1904
01:37:10,693 --> 01:37:13,413
Speaker 18: stay in the Elvis Suite where he was domiciled for

1905
01:37:13,533 --> 01:37:17,413
Speaker 18: seven years. I noticed Barry Manilow is currently doing a

1906
01:37:17,493 --> 01:37:18,653
Speaker 18: residency at the Westgate.

1907
01:37:18,773 --> 01:37:22,493
Speaker 4: Jack and I also love the Flamingo. They do have

1908
01:37:22,693 --> 01:37:25,373
Speaker 4: flamingos in the garden, although.

1909
01:37:25,053 --> 01:37:27,333
Speaker 18: When I was there a couple of weeks ago, Yeah,

1910
01:37:27,453 --> 01:37:31,933
Speaker 18: a drunk Canadian tourist kidnapped two of the birds. So

1911
01:37:33,333 --> 01:37:38,013
Speaker 18: security is rather tight at the Flamingo. And Mobster Bugsy

1912
01:37:38,293 --> 01:37:42,933
Speaker 18: Siegel actually established this hotel, the Flamingo just before he

1913
01:37:43,173 --> 01:37:46,773
Speaker 18: was assassinated. So there's just a bucket load of history

1914
01:37:46,813 --> 01:37:47,533
Speaker 18: at the Flamingo.

1915
01:37:47,653 --> 01:37:51,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing. So speaking of history, Fremont Street in downtown

1916
01:37:51,973 --> 01:37:53,333
Speaker 3: is that worth a jawnne.

1917
01:37:54,173 --> 01:37:57,613
Speaker 18: Yeah, dip into vintage Las Vegas. This is where the

1918
01:37:57,693 --> 01:38:01,773
Speaker 18: first bursts of blazing neon and casinos were established. It

1919
01:38:01,973 --> 01:38:05,773
Speaker 18: does have a ceed vibe, to be honest, but there

1920
01:38:05,853 --> 01:38:09,013
Speaker 18: are a lot of cheap thrills, like that slot Zilla

1921
01:38:09,213 --> 01:38:12,653
Speaker 18: zip line experience. So you can actually fly right above

1922
01:38:13,173 --> 01:38:17,533
Speaker 18: the original cluster of casino hotels and Fremont Street, and

1923
01:38:17,653 --> 01:38:21,853
Speaker 18: the whole thing has been encased by this massive canopy

1924
01:38:22,413 --> 01:38:27,533
Speaker 18: which stretches for four blocks along Fremont Street and around

1925
01:38:27,573 --> 01:38:30,813
Speaker 18: the clock. That canopy sort of sets the stage for

1926
01:38:30,973 --> 01:38:33,093
Speaker 18: a very trippy sound and light show. So yeah, a

1927
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:35,733
Speaker 18: lot of cheap thrills downtown in Las Vegas.

1928
01:38:36,093 --> 01:38:38,373
Speaker 3: And if you're into museums, we is good for a nosing.

1929
01:38:39,693 --> 01:38:41,013
Speaker 18: Two super quick tips.

1930
01:38:41,133 --> 01:38:43,253
Speaker 4: The Mob Museum is a cracker.

1931
01:38:43,413 --> 01:38:47,653
Speaker 18: It's writ large with macarbon sights into the vice like

1932
01:38:47,893 --> 01:38:51,653
Speaker 18: grip the Mob had on Vegas and maybe still does.

1933
01:38:52,333 --> 01:38:56,333
Speaker 18: And I do adore the Neon Museum jackets where iconic

1934
01:38:56,413 --> 01:39:00,413
Speaker 18: hotel signs go to die, laid to rest and freshly

1935
01:39:00,573 --> 01:39:04,493
Speaker 18: lit before the buildings are demolished, like the Mirage Hotel

1936
01:39:04,573 --> 01:39:06,853
Speaker 18: in My Volcano's very good.

1937
01:39:07,133 --> 01:39:08,933
Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, I've got

1938
01:39:09,013 --> 01:39:12,413
Speaker 3: to get there. I haven't been there in oh probably

1939
01:39:12,493 --> 01:39:14,413
Speaker 3: ten years, as well as probably ten years since I

1940
01:39:14,453 --> 01:39:17,013
Speaker 3: was lasting Vegas. I feel like Vegas is like great

1941
01:39:17,173 --> 01:39:20,733
Speaker 3: for forty eight hours. You know it's near I spend

1942
01:39:21,133 --> 01:39:22,493
Speaker 3: two weeks or anything like that.

1943
01:39:22,733 --> 01:39:24,533
Speaker 4: But a quick dip is good.

1944
01:39:24,773 --> 01:39:26,493
Speaker 3: Yes, quick dip is a way to do things. And

1945
01:39:26,573 --> 01:39:29,013
Speaker 3: now with the sphere, I really must get there. I

1946
01:39:29,053 --> 01:39:31,933
Speaker 3: would love to see that. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much, Mike.

1947
01:39:32,013 --> 01:39:34,533
Speaker 3: We'll put all of Mike's tips for tripping the best

1948
01:39:34,573 --> 01:39:36,813
Speaker 3: of new and old in Las Vegas up on the

1949
01:39:36,853 --> 01:39:40,893
Speaker 3: News Talks. He'd be website before midday. Arlo Parks has

1950
01:39:40,893 --> 01:39:43,453
Speaker 3: a brand new album called Ambiguous Desire, So we're going

1951
01:39:43,493 --> 01:39:45,493
Speaker 3: to pick out a couple of great tracks to play

1952
01:39:45,533 --> 01:39:47,413
Speaker 3: you from that, and we'll have your book picks for

1953
01:39:47,453 --> 01:39:51,533
Speaker 3: this weekend, including this new one that explores the relationships,

1954
01:39:51,653 --> 01:39:54,853
Speaker 3: the tensions, and the drama within the Murdoch dynasty. It's

1955
01:39:54,933 --> 01:39:55,733
Speaker 3: just gone eleven.

1956
01:39:55,533 --> 01:40:01,093
Speaker 4: Thirty, getting your weekends started.

1957
01:40:01,293 --> 01:40:05,413
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News talks'db.

1958
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:07,413
Speaker 3: It's twenty six to twelve. Have on Newstalks. They'd be

1959
01:40:07,533 --> 01:40:11,133
Speaker 3: Jason Pine is in for weekend sport this afternoon. Fairwelling

1960
01:40:11,213 --> 01:40:14,493
Speaker 3: Apolo Stadium one of those funny places for Crusaders fans

1961
01:40:14,533 --> 01:40:17,853
Speaker 3: Pioneer that they sort of have mixed memories because the

1962
01:40:17,893 --> 01:40:22,413
Speaker 3: Crusaders have had some extraordinary performances over the years, the

1963
01:40:22,533 --> 01:40:24,573
Speaker 3: least of which, of course, being last night's went over

1964
01:40:24,653 --> 01:40:27,293
Speaker 3: the drawer. I mean, they've won Super Rugby titles, they've

1965
01:40:27,293 --> 01:40:32,173
Speaker 3: done all sorts, but it's hardly the best rugby viewing experience.

1966
01:40:32,573 --> 01:40:34,373
Speaker 19: Now I think we get a bit misty, I don't

1967
01:40:34,373 --> 01:40:36,573
Speaker 19: we a bit romantic when it all comes to an end.

1968
01:40:36,733 --> 01:40:39,013
Speaker 19: And there were amazing scenes there last night, jack with

1969
01:40:39,453 --> 01:40:41,453
Speaker 19: you know, people led onto the ground and sort of,

1970
01:40:41,493 --> 01:40:45,533
Speaker 19: you know, for the last time, probably wandering over that surface.

1971
01:40:45,573 --> 01:40:47,413
Speaker 19: It was supposed to be temporary, wasn't it when it

1972
01:40:47,493 --> 01:40:49,653
Speaker 19: was stood up in twenty twelve in the wake of

1973
01:40:49,693 --> 01:40:52,253
Speaker 19: the earthquakes. But here we are fourteen years later, and

1974
01:40:53,013 --> 01:40:55,653
Speaker 19: it has I guess you'd say stood the test of time.

1975
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:59,693
Speaker 19: They would freely admit it doesn't have the facilities for players, responsors,

1976
01:40:59,733 --> 01:41:02,813
Speaker 19: for media, for fans that the new stadium will have,

1977
01:41:03,093 --> 01:41:06,093
Speaker 19: but it has come to represent something I think greater

1978
01:41:06,173 --> 01:41:09,653
Speaker 19: than just to rugby ground. It unified the city again

1979
01:41:09,733 --> 01:41:12,493
Speaker 19: and brought them together and brought them pockets of joy

1980
01:41:12,613 --> 01:41:15,613
Speaker 19: when they badly needed them. And no other, no other,

1981
01:41:15,773 --> 01:41:19,773
Speaker 19: No Crusaders player, No modern day Crusaders player knows anywhere else.

1982
01:41:19,853 --> 01:41:22,093
Speaker 19: None of the current guys ever played it the old

1983
01:41:22,173 --> 01:41:25,053
Speaker 19: Lancaster Park. They have all had all of their Crusaders

1984
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:29,133
Speaker 19: experience on that ground. So yeah, I'm quite looking forward

1985
01:41:29,133 --> 01:41:32,173
Speaker 19: to chatting to CEO of the club Colin Mansbridge after

1986
01:41:32,253 --> 01:41:34,413
Speaker 19: midday and then perhaps taking some people's memories, do we

1987
01:41:34,533 --> 01:41:37,613
Speaker 19: you know, Like I say, it's it's easy to get

1988
01:41:37,693 --> 01:41:40,173
Speaker 19: misty eyed about these things and forget the fact that

1989
01:41:40,373 --> 01:41:42,733
Speaker 19: sometimes it was just bloody cold there, you know, to

1990
01:41:42,893 --> 01:41:45,213
Speaker 19: watch the game of right, yeah.

1991
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:47,973
Speaker 3: You know what, it did have one one thing that

1992
01:41:48,533 --> 01:41:50,893
Speaker 3: really had going for it, and that was that the

1993
01:41:51,693 --> 01:41:55,213
Speaker 3: fans were on top of the game. Yes, I really

1994
01:41:55,413 --> 01:41:57,653
Speaker 3: like going to a ground where you are close to

1995
01:41:57,733 --> 01:42:00,853
Speaker 3: the pitch. Yep, it makes a huge difference, I reckon

1996
01:42:00,933 --> 01:42:03,613
Speaker 3: a and some having some, don't you know. Even I

1997
01:42:03,733 --> 01:42:05,693
Speaker 3: was at owned Eden Park for the All Whites on

1998
01:42:05,773 --> 01:42:08,173
Speaker 3: Monday with the nine year old, which was a fantastic

1999
01:42:08,213 --> 01:42:11,173
Speaker 3: occasion by the way, And I know the Chilean's didn't

2000
01:42:11,173 --> 01:42:13,813
Speaker 3: get the night they wanted. The Chilean fans didn't get

2001
01:42:13,813 --> 01:42:16,933
Speaker 3: the night they wanted, but as fans, they probably put

2002
01:42:16,973 --> 01:42:19,693
Speaker 3: the new Zealand fans to shame when it comes to

2003
01:42:19,733 --> 01:42:23,293
Speaker 3: singing in yahooing, et cetera. But one of the reflections

2004
01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:26,493
Speaker 3: I had was that, you know, even at a place

2005
01:42:26,573 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 3: like Eden Park, you're still you're not quite on the pitch. Yeah,

2006
01:42:31,213 --> 01:42:33,053
Speaker 3: and it's just it's really it's a great fing and

2007
01:42:33,093 --> 01:42:34,453
Speaker 3: at least they sometimes you know, they bring in some

2008
01:42:34,493 --> 01:42:35,933
Speaker 3: of the temporary seats and that sort of thing for

2009
01:42:35,973 --> 01:42:38,293
Speaker 3: the big test, but it is it is really nice

2010
01:42:38,293 --> 01:42:40,013
Speaker 3: to be right on the ground. You see it sometimes

2011
01:42:40,053 --> 01:42:43,573
Speaker 3: in the English Premier League and stuff, right where the

2012
01:42:43,653 --> 01:42:46,093
Speaker 3: players can basically just dive into the stands if they will.

2013
01:42:46,213 --> 01:42:46,373
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2014
01:42:46,653 --> 01:42:49,493
Speaker 19: Yeah, rectangular, rectangular shape is the main thing. I mean

2015
01:42:49,533 --> 01:42:51,933
Speaker 19: Dunedan's done it very well. When you go to forsythe bar,

2016
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:53,933
Speaker 19: that's how you feel you're right on top of it.

2017
01:42:54,213 --> 01:42:57,533
Speaker 19: And thing we'll do that too, yeah, well it will. Yeah.

2018
01:42:57,613 --> 01:43:01,093
Speaker 19: So so memories of Addington after midday to day and

2019
01:43:01,173 --> 01:43:03,653
Speaker 19: also why are there only three games over Easter weekend?

2020
01:43:04,413 --> 01:43:06,653
Speaker 19: Jack Mesley you have the competition and to on his

2021
01:43:06,773 --> 01:43:09,253
Speaker 19: son on that and Darren basically speaking of the all Whites,

2022
01:43:09,333 --> 01:43:11,053
Speaker 19: but later on how is he going to narrow down

2023
01:43:11,373 --> 01:43:14,213
Speaker 19: his squad for the World Cup to twenty six because

2024
01:43:14,253 --> 01:43:16,653
Speaker 19: there are more than twenty six good players now at

2025
01:43:16,693 --> 01:43:19,173
Speaker 19: his disposal. How's he going to decide who gets a

2026
01:43:19,253 --> 01:43:21,253
Speaker 19: seat on the plane and who doesn't. So Darren basely

2027
01:43:21,293 --> 01:43:23,373
Speaker 19: with us after two o'clock this afternoon.

2028
01:43:23,093 --> 01:43:24,253
Speaker 3: Jack, When does he have to make the call?

2029
01:43:25,013 --> 01:43:27,373
Speaker 19: Mid May is when he's going to make it. They

2030
01:43:27,413 --> 01:43:29,733
Speaker 19: don't have to make it until I think early year.

2031
01:43:30,253 --> 01:43:34,053
Speaker 19: But yeah, because they've got a couple of warm up

2032
01:43:34,093 --> 01:43:36,773
Speaker 19: games over in the States in early June and he's

2033
01:43:36,813 --> 01:43:38,693
Speaker 19: going to take his World Cup squad there, So mid

2034
01:43:38,933 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 19: May I'll ask him. Hey, she'll see if I can

2035
01:43:40,213 --> 01:43:40,733
Speaker 19: give us a date.

2036
01:43:41,013 --> 01:43:43,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, oh great, Thank you, sir. I'm looking forward

2037
01:43:43,133 --> 01:43:45,373
Speaker 3: to this afternoon. Jason Pine with us for a weekend

2038
01:43:45,453 --> 01:43:47,693
Speaker 3: sport right after the midday news. Next up, we've got

2039
01:43:47,733 --> 01:43:50,813
Speaker 3: your book picks this weekend. It's twenty two minutes to twelve.

2040
01:43:51,133 --> 01:43:55,373
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2041
01:43:55,693 --> 01:43:59,733
Speaker 1: powered by News Talk z'bo.

2042
01:43:58,253 --> 01:44:01,573
Speaker 3: Twelve on newstalksz'db let's bring in Catherine Rains, our book reviewer.

2043
01:44:01,653 --> 01:44:04,973
Speaker 3: This morning. Good morning, Good morning Jack. Oh you headed

2044
01:44:05,093 --> 01:44:07,173
Speaker 3: south for the long weeken? How good?

2045
01:44:08,893 --> 01:44:12,453
Speaker 10: We sure are looking forward to some interesting weather in Queenstown.

2046
01:44:12,573 --> 01:44:14,253
Speaker 10: But you know, it's always such a beautiful place.

2047
01:44:14,293 --> 01:44:16,133
Speaker 3: It should be fun, do you know, I reckon that's

2048
01:44:16,173 --> 01:44:19,973
Speaker 3: one of the part of the South Island where often

2049
01:44:20,053 --> 01:44:22,053
Speaker 3: the experience is better if you have a bit of

2050
01:44:22,093 --> 01:44:25,293
Speaker 3: wild weather. You know, if it's perfect and dry, then

2051
01:44:25,373 --> 01:44:29,293
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's sure, that has its attractions and pleasantries.

2052
01:44:29,333 --> 01:44:31,573
Speaker 3: But actually sometimes if it's a bit wild, you know,

2053
01:44:32,213 --> 01:44:35,333
Speaker 3: it adds another kind of dimension. So yeah, so long

2054
01:44:35,373 --> 01:44:35,933
Speaker 3: as you get.

2055
01:44:35,813 --> 01:44:40,253
Speaker 10: In yes, absolutely absolutely, and you're right, lake Walker Tapoo

2056
01:44:40,373 --> 01:44:42,293
Speaker 10: and wild weather is quite amazing.

2057
01:44:42,493 --> 01:44:44,453
Speaker 3: It's pretty something. Yeah, yeah, all right. Hey, we've got

2058
01:44:44,493 --> 01:44:47,253
Speaker 3: a couple of reads that sound fantastic this weekend. I

2059
01:44:47,373 --> 01:44:49,533
Speaker 3: am fascinated by the sound of your first book for

2060
01:44:49,653 --> 01:44:51,773
Speaker 3: us this morning. So tell us about Bonfire of the

2061
01:44:51,893 --> 01:44:53,613
Speaker 3: Murdochs by gabriel Sherman.

2062
01:44:54,893 --> 01:44:58,053
Speaker 10: So this is Robert Murdoch's story, and he's now ninety

2063
01:44:58,133 --> 01:45:04,053
Speaker 10: four and worth twenty three billion dollars Rupert Murdoch, yes

2064
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:12,133
Speaker 10: from yeah, right, And so the American juris Gabrielle Sherman

2065
01:45:12,293 --> 01:45:14,693
Speaker 10: has been reporting on the Murdoch family for the last

2066
01:45:15,093 --> 01:45:17,933
Speaker 10: couple of decades and he's interviewed all of them over

2067
01:45:18,493 --> 01:45:21,053
Speaker 10: those years. And the thing I found really interesting about

2068
01:45:21,093 --> 01:45:23,813
Speaker 10: this book is I didn't realize that Robert Murdock actually

2069
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:28,253
Speaker 10: inherited this media empire from his father, Sir Keith Murdock,

2070
01:45:28,773 --> 01:45:32,293
Speaker 10: and so he grew up around the Herald newsroomman and

2071
01:45:32,413 --> 01:45:35,413
Speaker 10: all of that kind of journalism side of things, and

2072
01:45:35,933 --> 01:45:38,253
Speaker 10: he really wanted to join the Herald straight after he

2073
01:45:38,453 --> 01:45:41,533
Speaker 10: graduated from high school, and his father actually insisted he

2074
01:45:41,813 --> 01:45:44,933
Speaker 10: went to Oxford and so he works in different newspapers

2075
01:45:44,933 --> 01:45:49,733
Speaker 10: as well after he finishes as Oxford. But the real

2076
01:45:49,853 --> 01:45:52,893
Speaker 10: style of that whole Murdoch style of journalism, which actually

2077
01:45:52,973 --> 01:45:56,853
Speaker 10: his father was really like as well, and it's probably

2078
01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:59,733
Speaker 10: revealed in the book most by the phone hacking scandal,

2079
01:45:59,773 --> 01:46:01,853
Speaker 10: which I'm sure most people kind of remember about the

2080
01:46:01,933 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 10: news of the world, where they were listening to individuals

2081
01:46:06,213 --> 01:46:09,613
Speaker 10: and private messages and breaking into the phones of famous

2082
01:46:09,653 --> 01:46:12,773
Speaker 10: people and also really vulnerable people, you know, people had

2083
01:46:12,773 --> 01:46:17,293
Speaker 10: been victims of attacks and bereaved parents, and Murdoch just

2084
01:46:17,733 --> 01:46:20,493
Speaker 10: kind of sums him up really when he denied kind

2085
01:46:20,493 --> 01:46:23,533
Speaker 10: of direct responsibility of it, but considered they called us

2086
01:46:23,573 --> 01:46:26,893
Speaker 10: with dirty hands. When he's in court over this, and

2087
01:46:26,973 --> 01:46:29,933
Speaker 10: the other interesting thing has his relationship with his children

2088
01:46:30,453 --> 01:46:33,853
Speaker 10: over the media empire, and in twenty twenty four it

2089
01:46:33,973 --> 01:46:35,853
Speaker 10: really came to her head because he'd set up this

2090
01:46:36,013 --> 01:46:40,533
Speaker 10: family trust in nineteen ninety nine, and you established this

2091
01:46:40,653 --> 01:46:43,773
Speaker 10: inheritance of Prudence, his daughter Bikes first wife, and Lachlan,

2092
01:46:43,853 --> 01:46:47,213
Speaker 10: Elizabeth and James, and that all inherits everything equally. But

2093
01:46:47,413 --> 01:46:50,853
Speaker 10: Robert at this stage wanted Lachlan, who's probably the most

2094
01:46:50,933 --> 01:46:54,093
Speaker 10: right wing of his children, to assume the full control

2095
01:46:54,173 --> 01:46:56,373
Speaker 10: of the business. And there's a whole lot of legal

2096
01:46:56,453 --> 01:46:58,413
Speaker 10: action and they all end up with one point one

2097
01:46:58,493 --> 01:47:00,133
Speaker 10: billion each at the end of it, which is probably

2098
01:47:00,213 --> 01:47:02,533
Speaker 10: not a bad sum of money, but there's this real

2099
01:47:02,733 --> 01:47:05,733
Speaker 10: ruthlessness about him, and he pits people against each other,

2100
01:47:05,773 --> 01:47:09,373
Speaker 10: including his family, and it's just fascinating. Look at the

2101
01:47:10,293 --> 01:47:14,013
Speaker 10: really incredibly dysfunctional family and the control and the power

2102
01:47:14,413 --> 01:47:17,853
Speaker 10: and a really reckless disregard that's just completely driven I

2103
01:47:18,013 --> 01:47:18,733
Speaker 10: think by greed.

2104
01:47:19,253 --> 01:47:22,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh fantastic, It sounds so interesting. So that's a

2105
01:47:22,453 --> 01:47:25,973
Speaker 3: Bonfire of the Murdocks by Gabriel Sherman. Next up tell

2106
01:47:26,053 --> 01:47:28,213
Speaker 3: us about Hooked by Azarko Yuzuki.

2107
01:47:29,773 --> 01:47:33,533
Speaker 10: So this has been translated from Japanese, but it reads

2108
01:47:33,733 --> 01:47:37,973
Speaker 10: really well. And Eriko's thirty and single and living at

2109
01:47:38,053 --> 01:47:41,293
Speaker 10: home and kind of this almost epitome of corporate success,

2110
01:47:41,813 --> 01:47:44,933
Speaker 10: well groomed, you know, really really good at a job.

2111
01:47:45,333 --> 01:47:47,733
Speaker 10: But there's one thing that she's never really got in life,

2112
01:47:47,773 --> 01:47:51,893
Speaker 10: and that's a great female friend. And in her interactions

2113
01:47:51,933 --> 01:47:54,493
Speaker 10: in social media, she stumbles across this blog that really

2114
01:47:55,293 --> 01:47:58,413
Speaker 10: is almost the complete opposite of her life, and she

2115
01:47:58,533 --> 01:48:01,493
Speaker 10: becomes hooked on reading these and the woman that writes

2116
01:48:01,613 --> 01:48:03,973
Speaker 10: these blogs, a woman called Choko, is a stay at

2117
01:48:04,013 --> 01:48:07,333
Speaker 10: home housewife and she hates cooking and c anything that

2118
01:48:07,493 --> 01:48:11,213
Speaker 10: requires any effort. And she never anticipated that her blog,

2119
01:48:11,373 --> 01:48:14,813
Speaker 10: called the World's World's Worst Wife would ever attract any attention.

2120
01:48:15,853 --> 01:48:19,053
Speaker 10: And Arico's this fan, and she begins stalking the places

2121
01:48:19,093 --> 01:48:21,853
Speaker 10: that Shoko goes to, and then one night they meet

2122
01:48:21,973 --> 01:48:26,013
Speaker 10: and they get along and Arico's really excited about this,

2123
01:48:26,253 --> 01:48:29,613
Speaker 10: but Choko's really unaware that Arico has this obsessive behavior

2124
01:48:29,773 --> 01:48:33,693
Speaker 10: in her past, and so the relationship begins okay, and

2125
01:48:33,813 --> 01:48:37,653
Speaker 10: then really very early on, the obsession becomes really obvious.

2126
01:48:38,053 --> 01:48:40,293
Speaker 10: And it's the story of the dynamic between the two

2127
01:48:40,613 --> 01:48:43,653
Speaker 10: and the behavior and the way they both change in

2128
01:48:43,733 --> 01:48:46,333
Speaker 10: reaction to it and the online presence. And so this

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Speaker 10: novel really focused on how modern society works and they

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Speaker 10: want real hunger for connection and just the way our

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Speaker 10: lives can go completely out of control and how easily

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Speaker 10: we define ourselves by what other people think of us

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Speaker 10: and what social media is about, and it's just it's

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Speaker 10: really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Okay, cool. So that's hooked by a Sako Yuzuki.

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Speaker 3: Catherine's first book is Bonfire of the Murdocks by Gabriel Sherman.

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Speaker 3: All the details of those will of course be up

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Speaker 3: at Newstalks hedb dot co dot nz. In a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes, that brand new album from r Low Parks,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a little bit of a listen to

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Speaker 3: Ambiguous Desire.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack dam News Talks.

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Speaker 3: This is Arlow Parks. That song is called Get Go.

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Speaker 3: Arlow's new album is Ambiguous Designer, and Chris Schultz has

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Speaker 3: been listening. He's with us this morning, Gay Chris, Hey, Jake.

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Speaker 20: I think the word silky was invented to describe music

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Speaker 20: and her vocals too, right, you can hear those vocals.

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Speaker 20: They sound silky to me. That's the it's the best word.

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Speaker 20: I think that sums up her music on this album.

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Speaker 20: It's a very different album to her first two. Arlo

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Speaker 20: Parks is a UK singer songwriter. She is about as

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Speaker 20: close to a lockdown artist as you can get. She

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Speaker 20: wrote her first album Collapsed in sunbeams in like bedrooms

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Speaker 20: and airbnbs between lockdowns, and you could sort of hear that.

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Speaker 20: You know It became quite a big hit. She won

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Speaker 20: the Mercury Prize for it in twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 20: apparently she went to that You Know That awards ceremony

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Speaker 20: straight after that had come out of London's last lockdown,

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Speaker 20: which would be such a surreal experience. The Mercury Prize,

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Speaker 20: by the way, like that that can often be a

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Speaker 20: bit of a kiss of death for some artists. A

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Speaker 20: lot of artists who want it don't tend to go

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Speaker 20: on and make their best music, or that can happen.

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Speaker 20: But she released the second album in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 20: my Self Machine, that kind of wasn't as God and

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Speaker 20: so it felt like maybe that curse has struck. But

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Speaker 20: ambiguous desire. I'm happy to say, is a rebirth, a

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Speaker 20: proof that maybe that trend hasn't quite sort.

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Speaker 4: Of worked on her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's a really interesting album. It's got quite a

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Speaker 20: big backstory. She's only twenty five years old, and she

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Speaker 20: has talked about how she missed all of her friends

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Speaker 20: going up clubbing and partying in their twenties because she

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Speaker 20: was busy working on music and touring, and so this

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Speaker 20: is an album to try and get back to that.

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Speaker 20: So it's got this kind of you can hear it

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Speaker 20: on that song. It's got this clubby kind of disco

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Speaker 20: housey kind of undertone to it. That's the blueprint. It's

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Speaker 20: what they call morning music, Jack. I don't know if

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Speaker 20: you've been visiting any clubs lately, but morning music is

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Speaker 20: what DJs play at six am when everyone's been partying

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Speaker 20: all through the night and they put on music to

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Speaker 20: help you transition.

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Speaker 4: Back out into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's been a few years.

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Speaker 5: I just learned this myself.

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Speaker 3: I see, but unfortunately I don't see it in the club.

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Speaker 3: I see it, you know, my one year old bedroom.

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Speaker 20: When you're being asked to make porridge.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, No, this is yeah, this is it's a really

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Speaker 20: good album. I almost see it as a counterpoint to

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Speaker 20: Robin's album last week. You know, we talked about that album,

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Speaker 20: which is like this euphoric bursts that's kind of like

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Speaker 20: that the headline at the main event. This is sort

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Speaker 20: of the aftermath. It's very wistful. She's looking back with

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Speaker 20: regrets about missing out on this time and trying to

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Speaker 20: make up for it. So a lot of the songs

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Speaker 20: are about sort of like getting into a cab to

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Speaker 20: go to the party, that kind of thing. But but

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Speaker 20: then the way she sings it is just so I

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Speaker 20: don't know, she's got the sweetness and lightness to her,

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Speaker 20: but some of it's so personal that, you know, she's

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Speaker 20: talked about fans sort of like sending her the message

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Speaker 20: of a message from the spilling their guts to her,

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Speaker 20: and what a toll that's taken on her too, you know,

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Speaker 20: like she she did have some time off, she did

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Speaker 20: stuff a burnout, which I think sort of reflects us

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Speaker 20: how fast she rose and the fact that it all

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Speaker 20: sort of happened during lockdown. So yeah, it's really interesting album.

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Speaker 20: I almost see it as like an autumnal sort of album,

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Speaker 20: you know, if you're not transitioning from the club out

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Speaker 20: into the day. Well, we're transitioning right now from you know, yeah,

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Speaker 20: summer into.

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Speaker 3: All daylight tomorrow, you know, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 20: I've been playing it and it's perfect for that kind

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Speaker 20: of this kind of time of year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Fantastic. Okay, what did you

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Speaker 3: give it?

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Speaker 20: I'm going to give us four stars. I'm really enjoying

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Speaker 20: this album.

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Speaker 3: Four stars for ambiguous is. I will have a bit

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Speaker 3: more of a listen to Arlow Park's latest in a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes, and of course you can catch more

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Speaker 3: of Chris on his sub stack. It's called boiler Room.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it is eight minutes to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: News Talk.

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Speaker 3: It is just coming up to midday on News Talks EDB,

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Speaker 3: which means it's time for me to scurry over and

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Speaker 3: for Jason Pye to take over the mic. With Weekends Sport,

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Speaker 3: he is reflecting on the legacy of Apollo Stadium. This afternoon,

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Speaker 3: he'll be catching up with the Whites coach Darren Baisley.

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Speaker 3: Is we count down to the Football World Cup as well.

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Speaker 3: me down there. Thanks to my wonderful producers Liddy and

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Speaker 3: Kerry for doing all the tough stuff this week. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna be back with you next Saturday Morning, but until then,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave you with Arlo Parks. Her new album

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Speaker 3: is Ambiguous Desire. This song is two sided. Have a

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Speaker 3: Good Easter Old by cart to Wow.

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Speaker 5: The friends are all the side.

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Speaker 2: Bucking, but the dog hurt is soot. He'll tell me

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Speaker 2: it's side buck, But the dog.

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Speaker 10: Head is so.

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Speaker 2: He'll tell me it's to the side. It's sim dog.

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Speaker 2: The doghead is sooth, He'll tell me it's side.

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