1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Our video game sector is having a major boom. Jobs 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: and game development have increased twenty and a half percent 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: over the past year. That's just a year now. This 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: is due to a government tax rebate scheme that allowed 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: a number of studios to claim back twenty percent of 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: their spend. So Joy Keen is the executive director of 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: the New Zealand Game Developers Association and joins me now. 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Hallo JOI, helloa, good morning. How are you. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm Greg You guys are great. I mean, that's quite 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: incredible growth, isn't it. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: It's absolutely phenomenal growth. We are so pleased with the 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: results of what the GENS has been able to do 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: for the industry. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Why New Zealander so good at making video games? 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: I love answering this question. I think game development is 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: a rule, is quite a passionate industry and we've got 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: a lot of experience here, especially when you take into 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: account we will workshop for example, There's a lot of 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: talent that's come out of here and has naturally fallen 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: from animation into game development. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: So this tax rebate that gives you the times to 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: get back twenty percent of your spend. Many other industries 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: would love something like that, but how good has it 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: been for your sector? Can you continue with it or 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: should it even be increased? Oh? 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: Look, I think to answer the first question, how good 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: has it been for it's been phenomenal. A couple of 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: years ago, just before the rebate was announced, we saw 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: a lot of New Zealand studios looking to move to 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Australia because of the rebate scheme there. So it's been 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: a game changer. The gs rebate has been able to 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: stem that movement overseas over to Australia. But also, yeah, 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: would we like it increased? Well, of course we would. 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Everybody would like funding to be increased. But we think 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: that increasing the GDSR to twenty five from twenty percent 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: in line with the screen production rebate as a no brainer. Basically, 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: the matching that screen production rebate is an additional benefit 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: to businesses who are showing a direct economic benefit, and 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: we believe our studios actually show that. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: So where to from here? Can you get bigger? 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: Yes, we can get bigger. Look, we're on track to 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: become a billion dollar industry. Last year, our total and 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: so let we start again. Gosh, so really our total 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: export revenue was five hundred and forty eight million dollars. 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: We know we're going to be a billion dollar industry 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: very very soon. So that's where we're heating. 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Good work joy and I thank you very very much. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: They get a twenty percent rebate. The other day I 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: reported that EWEO authorities play a seventeen point five percent tax, 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: and they've shocked a lot of people. They seem not 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: to know that. And we've talked about the incredible growth 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: of the Maria economy. So here you go where you 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: do some tax rebates. When you have a favorable corporate 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: tax environment, you spur on industries. But the government's not 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: considering that for all. 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.