1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Now tell you what farmers are not happy with, revenue 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: Minister Simon, what's are they? He is the guy responsible 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: for a plan change to the way that fringe benefit 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: tax applies to utes. If he goes through with this, 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: it would cost farmers thousands of dollars every single year. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Mark Hooper is Federated Farmer's Transport spokesperson with US. Now, Hey, Mark, 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: good evening, Heather. Have you heard what the government's just 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: sent through to us. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm pretty much aware of what's been going on. Basically, 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: it was a bit of a story that blew up 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: post field days when there was a lot of hype 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: around buying new utes with commodity price has been up, 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: and the government government's newly announced investment boost which allowed 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: an immediate twenty percent depreciation deductibility on new assets. And 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: then in the midst of that fintech findex. Sorry tax 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: advisors they sort of said, hang on a minute, whatever 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: you just saved on depreciation and you could just have 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: ended up losing through the proposed changes to the FBT rules. 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: So it was a bit of a classic case of 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: giving on one hand while taking on the other. And 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: not only that, but of course it's a FBT is 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: the cost every year. So obviously the optics around this 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: we're not looking too good at the time. 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so have you heard what the government's just 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: sent through to us? 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: What have they sent through all of this. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Debarcle mark over the last few days has gone on 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: about a week now. They have sent us a statement 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: that says, in terms of introducing a new eighty thousand 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: dollars fringe benefit tax threshold on utes, we can rule 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: that out. Ird consider a lot of things regularly, but 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: this is something that is not going to get progressed. 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: How good. 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: That's a great result, and that was certainly one of 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: the issues that we had with it. You know, we 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: looked at it from the perspective of what we know 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: actually happens on farms. And you know, if you're buying 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: new utes, if you want to look at say a 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: seventy series Land Cruiser, your starting prices around eighty grand, 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: and regardless of whether it was one hundred percent work 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: related use or not, by going over that threshold, it 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: immediately put you into one hundred percent payment for FBT criteria. 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: And so that was a considerably ongoing significant expense on 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: that purchase. 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: How long have you guys been going on about this? 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, as I say, it only just blew up really 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: post field days, and I think that was. 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: I see part of the on some of these stories. 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: So that's that's Friday. Is it Friday last week? 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: So that yeah, that's right. 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, sould been going on about it since Friday last 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: We've got no traction at all, and then all of 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: a sudden today they do a U turn. 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, we've had a little bit of communication with the 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Minister's office obviously. You know, as I said, we looked 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: at it from a farm perspective. We could see that 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: there were some issues with the categories that they had 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: laid out. Was really easy for the way that we 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: use farm use for those to be escalated into the 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: higher categories, hence a significantly greater FBT liability. And so 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: you know, once that came out, it was just a 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: case of really getting hold of the Minister's office and 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: talking through some of these issues. As great to hear 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: an immediate response. 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, it's brilliant, Mark, Thank you very much. I'm 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: stoked for you. Mark Hooper, Federated Farmers Transport spokesperson. For 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: more from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drive. 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