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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're going

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Speaker 3: to get you up to date on how much fuel

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Speaker 3: we have coming into the country and whether it's enough

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Speaker 3: and when we start reaching a problem point. Habit chat

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Speaker 3: to the Queenstown Mayor about the tourism numbers going up

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Speaker 3: to pre COVID levels and David Keith, the guy who

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Speaker 3: used to run the Marsden Point refinery, on whether keeping

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Speaker 3: it open would have changed anything.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen, here's a.

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Speaker 3: Prediction for you. Because there have been headlines today about

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Speaker 3: gas stations running out of petrol because people have been

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Speaker 3: panic buying, people will panic buy petrol this weekend. Yesterday

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Speaker 3: was discount day at Gull, so it went a little

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Speaker 3: bit crazy. Arning Hunger's Goal ran out of ninety five

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Speaker 3: Goldgreville Road, Gull, Henderson, Gold Torbet, Gold Takanini and Gold Takapuno.

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Speaker 3: Will also out of at least one sort of fuel.

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Speaker 3: Two pumps round Dry at supermarkets and Palmeston North as well.

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Speaker 3: Here's my second prediction, there will be tellings off. Cheryl

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Speaker 3: from the Bay of Plenty's going to see some punter

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Speaker 3: filling up multiple containers and she's going to get angry

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Speaker 3: about it. Now, that's not actually a prediction, because that

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Speaker 3: has what that's already happened. Cheryl went to the goal

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Speaker 3: in Fuckamatama and saw a van filling up multiple large containers,

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Speaker 3: causing a twenty minute wait for other customers. She spoke

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Speaker 3: to the media and called it unfair. Now, the thing

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Speaker 3: is panic buying is obviously not a good idea for

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Speaker 3: the collective good. We've been here with the toilet paper

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Speaker 3: during COVID, haven't we. It's not a good idea for

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Speaker 3: the collective good. But it is also a completely rational

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Speaker 3: thing to do from a selfish perspective, if you're just

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Speaker 3: looking after yourself and your family, so you should expect

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Speaker 3: people to do it. And before you tell anyone off

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Speaker 3: what's made them go down to the petrol station that

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Speaker 3: day fill up their car and multiple containers. We don't

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Speaker 3: know whether they're running essential generators back on the farm,

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Speaker 3: whether they need to be sure that they have enough

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Speaker 3: fuel for the next few days. We also don't know,

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Speaker 3: more importantly, probably how tight their budgets are. You and

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Speaker 3: I might be able to absorb a thirty cent rise

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Speaker 3: while it's cheap. Now, no one is to blame for

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Speaker 3: what is happening at the moment. This is a normal

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Speaker 3: human behavior, right. The media is just doing its job

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Speaker 3: by reporting on the fuel increases that people want to

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Speaker 3: read about. The government is being as careful in its

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Speaker 3: messaging as it can be, and even the punter filling

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Speaker 2: Here the duplusy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text

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Speaker 3: fees apply. Let me know what you think. Now. The

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Speaker 3: Acts parties put a bit of a spanner in the

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Speaker 3: works read the propose Greyhound Racing Band. The Select Committee

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Speaker 3: reporters come in. They want the bill to be passed,

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Speaker 3: but ACT has some concerns and it's the MP Cameron Luxton,

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Speaker 3: who sat on the Select Committee is with us. High Cameron, Hey,

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Speaker 3: get our afternoon, Heather. What are your concerns.

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Speaker 4: Well, my concerns and the ACT party concerns are that

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Speaker 4: thousands of soles to the Earth kiwis are having their

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Speaker 4: livelihoods and the greyhound industry and the community around it

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Speaker 4: ended it. They feel like Wellington just doesn't understand them

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Speaker 4: and they're losing their industry through no fault of their own.

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Speaker 4: It's quite unfortunate and I think it needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 4: Hence why've written the alternate view in the Select Committee

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Speaker 3: And your alternate view is that the industry should not

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Speaker 3: be completely shut down.

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Speaker 4: No, it's saying we need to address safety concerns properly,

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Speaker 4: but also an industry who's being shut down should be consulted.

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Speaker 4: If the state or the government is going to take

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Speaker 4: be doing that if regulation isn't working. Well, that's not

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Speaker 4: what was happening in this case, the industry invest Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the industry had invested heavily in the last few years.

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Speaker 4: They've done a whole lot of things to try and

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Speaker 4: Racing Integrity Board says they met or exceeded all the

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Speaker 3: Job applying with it, Cameron, But there was still what

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Speaker 3: would obviously deemed to be unacceptable levels of dog deaths.

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Speaker 4: Is that what happened, Well, what happened is an industry

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Speaker 4: got blindsided with a closed down and that's the situation

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Speaker 4: it was a bit of surprise for the industry when

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Speaker 4: it came in. There's no compensation regime. And look, if

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Speaker 4: you're going to be taking the private property of the

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Speaker 4: lawfully acting industry, basically leaving its asset's worthless, you have

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Speaker 4: firearm owners when the buy the gun buybacks were in

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Speaker 4: place and said, is this fair? Well, this is a

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Speaker 4: precedent for the in this racing code with with greyhounds.

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Speaker 4: Is it fair? Are we setting a good precedent here?

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Speaker 4: Are we consulting properly upfront? Are we providing a compensation

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Speaker 4: ranging that makes sense? And are we actually meeting the

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Speaker 4: needs of the of the greyhounds when it comes to rehoming?

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Speaker 3: What would the compo be?

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't We had numbers thrown around at Select Committee,

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Speaker 4: but really that work hasn't hasn't really been done, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say.

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Speaker 4: But the good news Select Committee did make an amendment

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Speaker 4: the proposal to allow overseas betting on greyhounds. Now, some

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Speaker 4: people said that was not right because it was youposing

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Speaker 4: But the revenue from those overseas betting could still be

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Speaker 4: used for rehoming and closed down and even compensation, So

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Speaker 4: you know, there isn't It's not like this is this

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Speaker 2: That could be used.

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Speaker 4: There is a piece of revenue that the Select Committee

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Speaker 3: Mate, what are we going to do with the sixteen

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a good question. You know, we've got the

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Speaker 4: SPCA and the Ministerially Ministerial Advisory Committee, the MAC committee.

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Speaker 4: You know, they say that it's a large scale challenge

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Speaker 4: that they've got ahead of them, but you know that

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Speaker 4: that is a concern and.

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Speaker 3: So realistically a whole bunch of those dogs have to

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Speaker 4: I pray not greyhounds of beautiful animals. I was patting

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Speaker 4: one a couple of hours ago. Amazing things. I'd hope

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Speaker 4: that wouldn't happen. But look, we've got we've got a

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Speaker 4: tight time frame to this closed down. I'm sure that

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that people are working hard on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you know, tight timeframes are tight time frames, and

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Speaker 4: perhaps we should be looking at whether a shutdown on

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Speaker 4: the first of August and what is that four and

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Speaker 4: a bit months away, whether that is the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cameron, thanks for talking us to talking to us

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Speaker 3: about it. I appreciate It's Cameron Luxton of the AX Party.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you realize this, but New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: only animal blood bank is in jeopardy of closing down

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Speaker 3: a problem, an' you, Heather. We have been brought up

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Speaker 3: and taught to panic by ever since the bartender called

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Speaker 3: last call, which is probably fair by the way, on

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Speaker 3: that if you are all, if you're one of the

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Speaker 3: a little mm as the air. As the ad says,

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Speaker 3: you may need to check your insurance policy because it

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Speaker 3: may actually preclude you from stockpiling fuel on your property.

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Speaker 3: So go and have a look at that just before

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Speaker 3: you decide to, you know, chuck the ninety one under

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Speaker 3: Hey We've just got a text from the Crusaders Maddie,

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Speaker 3: We will discuss this later. It'll talian a minute, I'll

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Speaker 3: talian a minute. But anyway, Maddie from the Crusaders has

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Speaker 3: Mansbridge is going to be with us after half past five,

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Speaker 2: Hello Heather.

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Speaker 3: Do you where do the Warriors?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Where do the Raiders sit on the table. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just one weekend, but well.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's it's as you say, it's just the

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Speaker 5: just the one weekend. They had a win last weekend,

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Speaker 5: as did the Warriors. So somebody's going to lose that

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Speaker 5: I'm beaten record tonight, don't they? But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: Raiders were a good team. So it's another good challenge

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Speaker 5: tonight at go Media for.

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Speaker 3: The Warriors how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 5: I feel good about it, But then I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: probably the kiss of death for this Warrior's side if

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Speaker 5: I feel confident about their chances. Not that I have

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Speaker 5: that much power, obviously, but look, I really like what

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Speaker 5: I saw last week. It wasn't the perfect performance, but

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Speaker 5: it was only round one and the Roosters, you know,

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Speaker 5: they came to Auckland as favorites to win that game,

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Speaker 5: and the Warriors won the game. So look, if they

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Speaker 5: were to win tonight, it'll be the first time since

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen that the Warriors have won their first two

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Speaker 5: games in a regular season. It seems like a crazy stat,

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Speaker 5: doesn't it that they're not able to get any sort

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Speaker 5: of consistency in the first fortnight of a season. Look,

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Speaker 5: they're still without a couple of key players, but they

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Speaker 5: didn't have Mitch Barnett or Luke Metcalf last weekend either,

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Speaker 5: and it didn't really seem to matter. Tanner Boyd had

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Speaker 5: a really good game. I thought he was excellent in

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Speaker 5: the number seven jumper. Others you know, contributed in the

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Speaker 5: fashion that was required. I think i'd be if I

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Speaker 5: was a Warriors fan heading along that tonight I'd be

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Speaker 5: going along with a fair degree of optimism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and jersey on to show you, to show there

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Speaker 3: are jerseys tiny, We have got jerseys through this office

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Speaker 3: like you wouldn't believe. It's nuts. So okay, Now, last

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Speaker 3: So here's the interesting thing about oil coming into this country.

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Speaker 2: Time is moss.

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Speaker 3: Right, Dad Mitchison is going to be with us out

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Speaker 3: Out and finally oots. A Russian man has lost his

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 3: Dan Machimson, US correspondents with US Now. Hello Dan, Hi, Heather, Right,

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Speaker 3: So what's the public opinion of Donald Trump doing?

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Speaker 7: Then?

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Speaker 2: It's falling.

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Speaker 3: It's divided along is it still divided along the old

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Speaker 13: Yeah, for the most part, I think. But I think

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Speaker 13: But I think it's more turning into a domestic political

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Speaker 3: The thing that is probably going to push public opinion

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Speaker 3: price of fuel for you people. How's that going?

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Speaker 3: You guys going to use robot soldiers.

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Speaker 13: Well, if you mean me personally, no, although I think

438
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Speaker 13: that's kind of cool. But the militaries are working on

439
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Speaker 13: these AI soldiers for years and they've they've got these

440
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Speaker 13: up and running right now like you would see in

441
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Speaker 13: a sci fi movie and the pictures that we've seen,

442
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Speaker 13: and it's like a combination of RoboCop or that evil robot.

443
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Speaker 13: I can't think of the name it was in Disney's

444
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Speaker 13: movie The Black Hole, but it's it's very evil looking,

445
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Speaker 13: it's very scary. It's jet black steel, it's got a

446
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Speaker 13: tinted glass advisor. It's called the Phantom MK one, and

447
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Speaker 13: the goal is to send more of these than humans

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Speaker 13: and have these robots carry any type of weapons that

449
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Speaker 13: a soldier can. And in the last couple of weeks

450
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Speaker 13: these robots have been sent at least a couple to Ukraine.

451
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Speaker 13: Initially this was going to be for sort of recon support,

452
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Speaker 13: but they're using them to try and deal with explosives too,

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Speaker 13: so real humans won't be put in so much danger.

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Speaker 3: So what are they doing, by the way, about the

455
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Speaker 3: oscars and security?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, you know, this is the biggest TV event,

457
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Speaker 13: along with the Super Bowl that we have over here

458
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Speaker 13: in the States every year, and there's a lot of

459
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Speaker 13: money writing on this, and there's a lot of security

460
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Speaker 13: on this too. Especially the FBI warned California law enforcement

461
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Speaker 13: and our Governor Gavenus about the possibility of of a

462
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Speaker 13: drone attack by Iran targeting the West Coast, so they're

463
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Speaker 13: rolling out more security this year. It's not very visible

464
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Speaker 13: at this point. The Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and

465
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Speaker 13: Sciences that puts on this event is not is not

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Speaker 13: saying anything publicly about it. But Governor k Newsom came

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Speaker 13: out and said he's in touch with the FBI and

468
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Speaker 13: with security agencies and said he's guarantee that everything that

469
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Speaker 13: can be done will be done.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see if this is.

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Speaker 13: Going to mean fewer of the big name celebrities will

472
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Speaker 13: show up for the event, or if they just feel

473
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Speaker 13: confident say hey, we're going to go with the flow.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, appreciate it. You enjoy your weekend. That's Dan Mitchinson,

475
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Speaker 3: US correspondent. By the way, it's being reported that Timothy

476
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Speaker 3: Shaller may may have lost his his oscar because of

477
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Speaker 3: comments about opera and the ballet and it just wouldn't

478
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Speaker 3: be cool to give it to him now, nineteen away from.

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Speaker 2: Five ever, due for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm not sure this is a totally wise thing

481
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Speaker 3: to do, because I'm going to go smat on you

482
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Speaker 3: right now, but this has been the talk, the talk

483
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Speaker 3: of the newsroom, so I'm going to direct you to this.

484
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: You need to go and read the yarn about in

485
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Speaker 3: the Herald, by the way, about the guy who owns

486
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Speaker 3: Manuka Doctor, mainly because sure like it's sillacious and it's

487
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, not high brow. I'm not gonna put it's wild.

488
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Speaker 3: It's completely wild. It's going to blow your mind. The

489
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Speaker 3: guy's name, so Minuka Doctor. You're like, I've heard of them. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: you've heard of them because there's Manuka Minuka Doctor Arena

491
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: which is where we play the tennis in Parnell and

492
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: they've got various sponsorships and stuff. There's loads of money.

493
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Speaker 3: The company's worth a lot of money anyway. The guy

494
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Speaker 3: who owns it is a chap called Matt Pringle. Matt's

495
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Speaker 3: mum is Lynette Erseg, who was married to Michael Ersatt

496
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Speaker 3: who Erseg who made the fortune off liquor. Now Matt

497
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Speaker 3: Pringle has a baby with Livnervo. Stay with me, it's

498
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Speaker 3: not going to be so complicated. He's got a baby

499
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Speaker 3: with Livnrvo, who is an acclaimed like a globally acclaimed DJ.

500
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Speaker 3: She's originally from Australia and she does a DJing thing

501
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Speaker 3: with her sister. Anyway, she and Matt have a relationship

502
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Speaker 3: that lasts maybe two or three years between twenty sixteen

503
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Speaker 3: and twenty nineteen, and they are a couple. They're known

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Speaker 3: as a couple, she says. She says, they decide to

505
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Speaker 3: have a baby together, so they're doing the normal thing

506
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Speaker 3: that a couple. You know, you make the life decision.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

508
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Speaker 3: You want to start a family. So they start trying

509
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Speaker 3: for a baby, and they're scheduling to got big travel

510
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: schedules and stuff, so scheduling to catch up when she's fertile,

511
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Speaker 3: and so she falls pregnant. But she starts to this

512
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Speaker 3: is her version of events, I need to say, because

513
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Speaker 3: I don't think that we've heard from Matt on this. Anyway,

514
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Speaker 3: she starts to feel something's a wee bit off and

515
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Speaker 3: things aren't making sense. Six months into the pregnancy which

516
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: she's got the baby girl, she makes a surprise trip

517
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Speaker 3: to New Zealand to ask him directly about some of

518
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Speaker 3: these things that she feels are a bit off. The

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: meeting ends in shock because she discovers Matt actually has

520
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Speaker 3: a relationship with another woman who is also having a

521
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Speaker 3: baby with him. He has a secret family back in

522
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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Anyway, the whole thing, because of course, if

523
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Speaker 3: you've got something this salacious involving famous people, then it

524
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Speaker 3: goes to the courts. So the whole thing's going through

525
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Speaker 3: the courts at the moment, and to be honest, it

526
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Speaker 3: is I'm slightly ashamed of telling you about this because

527
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Speaker 3: it is their own private, messed up business and who

528
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Speaker 3: doesn't have your own private, messed up business. We all do.

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Speaker 3: We just don't want it to be out there, right.

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Speaker 3: But the problem for him, unfortunately, is she's famous, he's

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Speaker 3: incredibly wealthy. So she's spoken to the heralds and now

532
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Speaker 3: it's out there. Now. As I say, I wouldn't normally

533
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: draw your attention to stuff like this, but it's so bonkers.

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Speaker 3: Go to the herald and read about it. Sixteen away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Colin Mansbridge of the Crusaders with US after half past five,

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Speaker 3: right now, thirteen away from five and Barry Soper, Senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondence with US. Hello, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 14: Hea those so Paul.

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Speaker 3: Eagle, what a yarn? What's hell?

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Speaker 14: Look, the Auditory General's report came out fairly late yesterday

543
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Speaker 14: and I've had a bit of a look at it

544
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Speaker 14: now and it's pretty serious. Paul Eagle went over I

545
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Speaker 14: think it was two thousand and three in July to

546
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Speaker 14: become the Chief executive of the Chatham Islands. Now it

547
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Speaker 14: is a population of six hundred people. His annual salary

548
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Speaker 14: was around three hundred and forty thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 14: You mentioned trying to spend that on the Chattham Islands.

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Speaker 14: I've been there. There's not a hell of a lot there.

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Speaker 14: There's a pub and a bit of shopping you can do,

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Speaker 14: but you know, not a lot else. Really a lot

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Speaker 14: of crayfish if you're interested in that. But so then

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Speaker 14: before he moves into the council supplied, he spends forty

555
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Speaker 14: thousand dollars on rental because he demanded the health the

556
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Speaker 14: house be done up, and they spent five hundred thousand

557
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Speaker 14: almost on doing the house up for the new chief executive.

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Speaker 3: How about that, Barry, did you say there were six

559
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Speaker 3: hundred people there? Six hundred people, one of those people

560
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Speaker 3: contributing almost one thousand dollars to him getting his flash

561
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Speaker 3: get open.

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Speaker 14: So the new guy that's taken over now is the

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Speaker 14: interim chief executive. So he's living in a quite a

564
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Speaker 14: nice house.

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Speaker 3: Garry, on with what point did with the money have

566
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Speaker 3: you even got to the appliance as yet?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Please me. So Paul has got expensive taste? Is it

569
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Speaker 3: eighteen thousand dollars he blew on me lay appliances when

570
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Speaker 3: a Fisher and pikeel would have done for you mate,

571
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Speaker 3: but not only that was the approved budget of the thing,

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Speaker 3: not two hundred thousand dollars. And then he takes over

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Speaker 3: the management of the renovation and then he starts approving

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Speaker 3: things himself.

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Speaker 14: Yes, and he uses his flight account to fly his

576
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Speaker 14: wife and the son back to New Zealand whenever they

577
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Speaker 14: want to go to and from the Chathams.

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Speaker 3: So and this is from the guy who just while

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Speaker 3: while he was an MP, skyved off and nobody knows

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Speaker 3: what he did for about a year.

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Speaker 14: Well, yes, Paul Eagle, he formerly was an advisor to

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Speaker 14: the police. He was an ethnic advisor in Wellington to

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Speaker 14: the police. He's an interesting character. I know him and

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Speaker 14: you know I quite like him as well.

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me that was his job before getting

586
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Speaker 3: into politics. Yes, so nothing real, just nonsense. So his

587
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: whole career is nonsense.

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Speaker 14: Well say that, you've just said it hither but no.

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Speaker 14: So now the authorities are looking at this because the

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Speaker 14: Order to General couldn't decide whether it was legal or

591
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Speaker 14: illegal what he got up to. So now the authority

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Speaker 14: is going to have a log at it. And even

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Speaker 14: though Paul Eagle has now left the Chatham Island, he

594
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Speaker 14: actually got the job there because a lot of people

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Speaker 14: probably won't realize this, but the wrong attire electorate is

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Speaker 14: essentially kilometers away the chatter it encompasses that Julian Genter

597
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 14: is now the MP there. She'll be, no doubt flying

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Speaker 14: on a magic carpet there because it costs quite a

599
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Speaker 14: lot of money to get to the chatter minis.

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Speaker 3: Marry Who appoints the chief executive of the chatterm Islands

601
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Speaker 3: the Council?

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Speaker 14: Well no, not the council won't be The council will

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Speaker 14: be a recruitment agency. He went through.

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Speaker 3: But who signs off and goes yep, that's my pre

605
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Speaker 3: the mirror of Wellington.

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Speaker 14: Well no, I think from what I can read way.

607
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Speaker 3: And find out and then tell me. I want to

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Speaker 3: know whether this is a job for one of the boys. Again,

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Speaker 3: this feels like one of those ones where you give

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Speaker 3: you get somebody out, you give them a political appointment

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Speaker 3: and then they with us off.

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Speaker 14: Or they lauded the appointment at the time they thought

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Speaker 14: it was wonderful.

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Speaker 3: That's your job for quarter past six.

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Speaker 14: That's if I haven't got enough to do.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to eat? We're not? Are we going

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Speaker 3: to get to Carlo stays sure.

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Speaker 14: I remember Carlos Days and that it was before you were

619
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Speaker 14: born here that we had Carlos Days here in New Zealand.

620
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 14: Rob Muldoon decided it was a good way to save

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Speaker 14: on the fuel because there was an oil shortage in

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Speaker 14: those days as well. It came in in July nineteen

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Speaker 14: seventy nine and was scrapped less than a year later

624
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Speaker 14: in May nineteen eighty because essentially it was a failure.

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Speaker 14: The government shouldn't even should not even contemplate it because

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Speaker 14: it saved about three percent in terms of fuel. The

627
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Speaker 14: cars that had multiple car households who had multiple cars

628
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Speaker 14: could have a sticker on every day and drive. In fact,

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Speaker 14: I drove every day because I was, of course an

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Speaker 14: exempt person because the media has to get out and

631
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Speaker 14: tell the story, but that's my job. And there were

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Speaker 14: black markets to is being sold all over the place,

633
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Speaker 14: and I remember people stopping on the side of the

634
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Speaker 14: road pouring their petrol cans into the back of their car.

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Speaker 14: I mean, people hoarded people so ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So did it only save three percent of consumption because

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Speaker 3: it was being raughted or did it only save three

638
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Speaker 3: percent of consumption by design?

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Speaker 14: No, it was rotted the system essentially was routed, never

640
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Speaker 14: really worked properly. And I noticed that Nikola Willis said,

641
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Speaker 14: that's right at the end that they may have to

642
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 14: think about something like that. I'll tell you we have

643
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Speaker 14: to be down, so they should stop thinking about it

644
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 14: now because it'll never be.

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Speaker 3: Because you've got a better idea.

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Speaker 14: Well, no, because I'll get a sticker of course exempting me.

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Speaker 14: And we've got a couple of cars, so it'd be

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Speaker 14: no problem. God.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks, Marry O. Could you find out about who

650
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Speaker 3: appointed Paul Eagle from me if you don't mind, and then

651
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Speaker 3: we'll talk again. Quarter pass six Berry so for senior

652
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Speaker 3: political correspondent. WO will wrap the week later on seven

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Speaker 3: away from five, Heather Barry missed the point that Paul

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Speaker 3: Eagle also employed his wife as a council consultant a

655
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Speaker 3: fee of three hundred thousand dollars typical labor. I've been

656
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Speaker 3: told off for not drawing attention to the fact that

657
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Speaker 3: Paul Eagle is labor aligned. But you know, you probably

658
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Speaker 3: know that if you've been following politics long enough. It's

659
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Speaker 3: four away from five. Listen, lawn numbers. I've got some

660
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Speaker 3: weird numbers on your lawn for you. There's an Auckland

661
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Speaker 3: University researcher who's done some sums on what we're doing

662
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Speaker 3: with grass in this country. And by grass, I do

663
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Speaker 3: mean like the lawn. Largely. They've looked at Auckland because

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Speaker 3: they are Auckland based. In Auckland, apparently a third of

665
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Speaker 3: the city is covered in lawn and they've done this

666
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Speaker 3: obviously not you know, like it's little bits. You'r bit,

667
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Speaker 3: my bit, the bit next door. They add it all up.

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Speaker 3: It's a third of the city. It's actually more than

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Speaker 3: most urban centers. Most urban centers are around about twenty

670
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Speaker 3: percent or a fifth of the city or town. In Auckland,

671
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Speaker 3: people spend they estimate one hundred and thirty one million

672
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Speaker 3: dollars every year on their lawns. And that's the private spend.

673
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Speaker 3: That's not even the dudes who are walking up and

674
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Speaker 3: down mowing the berm and doing all the other stuff there.

675
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Speaker 3: So this will be things like mowing and watering and

676
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Speaker 3: weed killing and fertilizing your lawn and making sure it

677
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Speaker 3: looks absolutely beautiful. Every year across New Zealand, seven thousand

678
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Speaker 3: people injure themselves just mowing the lawn. But there's a lot.

679
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Speaker 3: Look think about that. There's a lot of people. Seven

680
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Speaker 3: thousand people cop themselves a mowing injury every single year.

681
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Speaker 3: It costs the country in acc payments twelve point six

682
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Speaker 3: million dollars because you can't handle your lawn mower. Anyway,

683
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Speaker 3: all of these numbers, they're building a case the University

684
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Speaker 3: of Auckland. They reckon, we need to approach our lawns

685
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Speaker 3: differently and we need to do something different. Now I'm

686
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Speaker 3: quite keen to hear what it is that we need

687
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Speaker 3: to do different, because if they come at me with

688
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Speaker 3: just let your lawn grow, I'm not interested in that nonsense.

689
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Speaker 3: Are you interested in that nonsense? I mean, Nick, minute

690
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Speaker 3: you let the lawn grow, then they're gonna be like,

691
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Speaker 3: don't paint your house and we'll just turn into a

692
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Speaker 3: shanty town. That's what happens if you don't mow your lawns.

693
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Speaker 3: That's what anyway, we'll find out because I'm putting words

694
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Speaker 3: in their mouths and there might be something completely reasonable.

695
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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Next up, we're going to talk to Mark Douglas. Just

698
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Speaker 3: find out this is Mark Douglas of Stallboard Starboard Rather

699
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Speaker 3: Marine Intelligence, about what happened Now that the last ship

700
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Speaker 3: out of the Strait of Hormus has landed in Singapore.

701
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Speaker 3: Is this when the disruption starts?

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Speaker 1: His next newstalgs VB, the only drive show you can

703
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Speaker 1: trust to ask the questions, get the answers, find the

704
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Speaker 1: fag and give the analysis. Here the duplicy Ellen Drive

705
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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite Mobile

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Speaker 1: newstalgs VB Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: The last of the oil tankers that made it through

708
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Speaker 3: the Strait of Hormus before it shut down have now

709
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Speaker 3: arrived in Singapore. Now this is significant for New Zealand

710
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Speaker 3: because Singapore and South Korea are the two places where

711
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Speaker 3: we get most of our fuel from. So it means

712
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Speaker 3: if there's going to be some sort of a disruption,

713
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Speaker 3: we're about to find out about it. Mark Douglas is

714
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Speaker 3: an analyst with Starboard Maritime Intelligence. They track ships around

715
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Speaker 3: the globe and he's with us high Mark Hire the

716
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Speaker 3: are you I'm very well, thank you. So do you

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Speaker 3: think we're going to feel a disruption.

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Speaker 15: In this So I'm looking at my screen and I

719
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Speaker 15: can see nine tankers all making their way to New

720
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Speaker 15: Zealand from the likes of Singapore, South Korea and Japan.

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Speaker 15: So in the short term, as I think the Finance

722
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Speaker 15: Minister has said, there's plenty of fuel on the way,

723
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Speaker 15: but in the long term, certainly it's going to start

724
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Speaker 15: to buy it when so it takes time to refine

725
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Speaker 15: the fuel. But it's already happening in the pumps. It's

726
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Speaker 15: going up and it's going to get worse from there

727
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Speaker 15: as the longer the disruption comes. Luckily, the likes of

728
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Speaker 15: Saudi Araba are moving where they load tankers to other

729
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Speaker 15: points that aren't affected by the crisses with Iran, but

730
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Speaker 15: that's still going to reduce the flow coming out.

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Speaker 3: So you'd normally get obviously it would be pretty regular

732
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Speaker 3: arrivals in Singapore. What is going to be the gap,

733
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Speaker 3: What's going to be the delay between the ships that

734
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Speaker 3: have arrived now that got through the straight up humors

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Speaker 3: and whatever arrives next.

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Speaker 15: So the last of them left on the twenty eighth

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Speaker 15: and it's now the eleventh, so twelve days let's call

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Speaker 15: it actually two weeks at least before between when the

739
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Speaker 15: straight finally open up, when the vessels actually managed to

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Speaker 15: load leave and then get to Singapore, and from there

741
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Speaker 15: they need to be unloaded. Product needs to get refined

742
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Speaker 15: and then loaded onto the product tankers to make its

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Speaker 15: way to New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Which means that what if we haven't got anything coming

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Speaker 3: through right now, it's going to be a delay of

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Speaker 3: at least two weeks.

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Speaker 15: At least two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're seeing any ships come through.

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Speaker 16: It all.

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Speaker 15: Coming through the straits of Hormones. I have seen one

751
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Speaker 15: bulk carrier make it through today and it was proudly

752
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Speaker 15: displaying its destination as Chinese crew.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what I've read is that at the moment

754
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Speaker 3: what is getting through is Iranian and it's going dark

755
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Speaker 3: because of the radar jamming, and it's on its way

756
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Speaker 3: to China. So they just are letting some ship through

757
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Speaker 3: their own vessels to make money. Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely so. It's in Iran's best interest to continue

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Speaker 15: the flow of oil and their biggest customer is China.

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Speaker 15: But they've also seen reports that they're also considering leading

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Speaker 15: Indian vessels through as well, so that they can continue

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Speaker 15: the flow of oil to that country.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what is the most likely outcome here at

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Speaker 3: to be dealing Because obviously there's a difference between running

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Speaker 3: out and high prices, although they can be combined. Are

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Speaker 3: we more likely to be faced with high prices than

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Speaker 3: running out all together and having rationing?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, at this point it absolutely looks like higher prices

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Speaker 15: are far more likely than running out altogether.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, thank you very much. Made appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Mark Douglas, Starboard Maritime Intelligence. They watch all the ships

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Speaker 3: around the globe's ten past.

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Speaker 2: Five, Heather do for cel.

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Speaker 3: So we appear to be crimping ever closer to reaching

775
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Speaker 3: pre COVID tourism levels. About fifteen thousand more overseas visitors

776
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Speaker 3: travel to New Zealand And January than the year before.

777
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Speaker 3: This puts out US at about ninety seven percent now

778
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Speaker 3: of pre pandemic levels.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: The Mayror of Queenstown Lakes District, John Glover.

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Speaker 16: Is with us.

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Speaker 7: Hi.

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Speaker 9: John, Yeah, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed it?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

786
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Speaker 2: Crazy? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: And this season has been very very strong for us locally.

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 9: I mean it started in November and you know, the

791
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Speaker 9: toys of numbers and the people around November felt like January.

792
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Speaker 9: So this year has been really really strong. Neighboring councils

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Speaker 9: if you look north up to take a poor for

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Speaker 9: the McKenzie Council. They've really felt the pressure of convoys

795
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Speaker 9: of Campa vans and others just rattling through their district. Now.

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Speaker 3: In the past, obviously, Queenstown's had a bit of a

797
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Speaker 3: love hate relationship with the tourists because of course of

798
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Speaker 3: the pressure that they put on the infrastructure. What's it

799
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Speaker 3: like at the moment, are you guys still in that

800
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Speaker 3: space or just grateful?

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Speaker 9: So we're I mean, we're in full noise with tourism.

802
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Speaker 9: We recovered to our pre pandemic levels. You know, we're

803
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Speaker 9: probably a one hundred and fifteen per cent above pre pandemic,

804
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Speaker 9: so we're certainly noticing it. I think the conversation's matured.

805
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Speaker 9: It is actually a broader one of how we manage growth,

806
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Speaker 9: you know. I mean we look around. We've got the

807
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Speaker 9: ski fields, we've got the bike trails, we've got the restaurants,

808
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Speaker 9: we got the wineries. We wouldn't have a lot of

809
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 9: that stuff without the tourists. And like myself, many many

810
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 9: people came here as a visitor, came on holiday, stayed

811
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Speaker 9: and the ends up putting down routes and making it work.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about what you're seeing going on globally,

813
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Speaker 3: the impact that it's going to have on airline prices,

814
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Speaker 3: it's going to have on on in New Zealand flying

815
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: to the regions, probably not yours though, How do you

816
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Speaker 3: feel about that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well we're already seeing some flights being consolidated, some

818
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Speaker 9: services being canceled, so they'll be fewer services to Wellington

819
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Speaker 9: Crime Church in Auckland that yeah, yeah, and but I

820
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Speaker 9: mean that's that's the airline responding to the market pressure.

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Speaker 3: Losing John, I'm surprised by that.

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Speaker 9: I think there's probably about three to six a week,

823
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Speaker 9: and so I mean that's that's down to the airlines.

824
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Speaker 9: They'll consolidate some flights, they'll move some people around, but

825
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Speaker 9: I think short term, you know, people will have got

826
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Speaker 9: that Easter holidays books. You know, it's not too long

827
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Speaker 9: till Easter of the school holidays, so people I think

828
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Speaker 9: we'll just carry.

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Speaker 2: On with that.

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Speaker 9: You know, they've they've they've probably got their prices locked

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Speaker 9: and loaded. I think as we get into the winter

832
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Speaker 9: season and people in notoriously last minute for booking winter

833
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Speaker 9: holidays because coming from Australia, because they want to wait

834
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Speaker 9: domesiply and see us doing so, we may see some

835
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Speaker 9: hesitation and people. I think pricing and fight availability will

836
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Speaker 9: feed it into that.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with it, John, and thanks very much for

838
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Speaker 3: your time. John Glover, Mayor of Queenstown Lakes District.

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Speaker 2: Hither Dupless Allen.

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Speaker 3: Hither, my husband got funny looks when he was filling

841
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Speaker 3: up his diesel work car and then he put petrol

842
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 3: in a smaller proof container for our generator. We're completely

843
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: off the grid, so we need it for our generator

844
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Speaker 3: when it's not sunny, so that we have power. We

845
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Speaker 3: aren't being greedy. Well share and try that on this

846
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Speaker 3: weekend and see how people go for that. Hither. I

847
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Speaker 3: saw a woman today filling up a fifty liter caravan

848
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Speaker 3: gray water tank with petrol at an NPD self service

849
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Speaker 3: ben Hither. I'm just passing the BP and the Celtics

850
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Speaker 3: and Main Street blenn and the prices for ninety one

851
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Speaker 3: or three dollars and five cents and two dollars ninety

852
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Speaker 3: nine respectively, one car at BP and NNE at Celtics Blenham.

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Speaker 3: Can be a bit slow to catch on on that,

854
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Speaker 3: so I didn't believe I was listening to the people,

855
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Speaker 3: the EV people going oh, you know, we've got all

856
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Speaker 3: these inquiries. Oh, we've got all these sales of the

857
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Speaker 3: water though you just said no. Apparently it's happening. I

858
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Speaker 3: know this because, as you you know, why drive a

859
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Speaker 3: bid from time to time because the boys at BYD

860
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Speaker 3: give me one and then they want me to see

861
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Speaker 3: what it's like before I tell you about it. So

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Speaker 3: Warren from Byd turned up today to give me the

863
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Speaker 3: big old bag bag bag one and he said to me,

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Speaker 3: in just two car dealerships in Auckland yesterday they sold

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Speaker 3: fifteen cars, ten cars in new Market, five cars on

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Speaker 3: the North Shore, they sold ten in christ Church, and

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Speaker 3: they sold four hundred and eighty cars in Australia. This

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Speaker 3: all happened yesterday. So evidently people are deciding to go

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Speaker 3: electric at the moment. Fourteen past five either, how many

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Speaker 3: petrol cars were sold over that time? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a very good question. Actually that

872
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Speaker 3: is a very good That would be a control group,

873
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Speaker 3: wouldn't That is a good question. Hey, shout out really

874
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Speaker 3: quickly to Tulla and Parnell in Auckland, which is the

875
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Speaker 3: restaurant that does the modern psalm or in cuisine. It's

876
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Speaker 3: just been named one of the world's one hundred Greatest

877
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Speaker 3: Places to Visit by Time magazine. Already everybody knows it's great.

878
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Speaker 3: It's got heaps heaps of awards already. But yeah, try

879
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Speaker 3: to get a booking at that place. Now seventeen past five.

880
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: Now here are some numbers for you. A third of

881
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Auckland is covered in lawn. Auckland has spent one hundred

882
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: and thirty one million dollars every year looking after their lawns.

883
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: Seven thousand people in this country are hurt just mowing

884
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: their lawns every year, and that costs the country twelve

885
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: point six million dollars? Is there a better way of

886
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: doing this?

887
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 7: All?

888
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: Olivia rook de Voye is a PhD candidate at Auckland

889
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: University and with US high. Olivia, Hi, here the thanks

890
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: for having me. Yeah, go on, then is there a

891
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: better way?

892
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 17: The answer to that is it's complex. Of course, I

893
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 17: can't give you a straight answer, which I have been

894
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 17: studying lawns for many years now. Yeah, and basically they're

895
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 17: in an environmental disaster. We've got Yeah, they huge amounts

896
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 17: of chemical inputs mowing their very low biodiversity, so they're

897
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 17: not offering anything to the environment. And of course we're

898
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 17: spending so much time in and doing ourselves maintaining them.

899
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: Oh so when you say that the bad for the environment,

900
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: in part, it's because we're mowing them, and then we're

901
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: mowing them with the petrol, and then we're letting off

902
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: all the co two. Is that part of the problem.

903
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 17: Yes, that's correct. And we're also getting rid of anything

904
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 17: that could grow there, that would contribute to pollinators, foraging birds,

905
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 17: anything that could exist in these spaces. They're really not

906
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 17: getting a chance. They're basically operating like green carpets at

907
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 17: the moment.

908
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: Okay, well, what I mean, what do you do? Because

909
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: you do need a place for the kids to sort

910
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: of play and if they fall over, they're not going

911
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: to give themselves an enormous concussion and have to go

912
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: to hospital.

913
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

914
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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's so true. So the way I've approached lawns

915
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 17: and auckland especially is it's a pragmatic ecology. We need

916
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 17: to be looking at the spaces that we aren't using,

917
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 17: that perhaps aren't ideal for sports. We don't play cricket

918
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 17: on them, and whether those are performing the way they should, well,

919
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 17: what should we do? So the easiest answer, the first

920
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 17: thing I thought is, well, can we reduce the bowing?

921
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: So I knew you were going to stop you you're

922
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: doing that? Will you tell us? And then then before

923
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, it looks like a shandy town and roomy era.

924
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: Can't do that.

925
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 17: Oh that's I've had that feedback, and I've also had

926
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 17: people to they love the wildness that's been brought back,

927
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 17: that they're suddenly seeing insects they've not seen for years.

928
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 17: And the way to approach an unknown lawn is it's

929
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 17: not no mo, it's lomo. So you mo once a year,

930
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 17: you maintain the edges, you make sure people know it's

931
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 17: still cared for, that it's your lawn.

932
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Speaker 3: How long does it get all of you in a year?

933
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Speaker 17: Depending on your lawn. In Auckland, we've got the cursed

934
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Speaker 17: Caiku grass which performs very well here and we'll take

935
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 17: over anywhere you let it take over. Caiku you can

936
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 17: get up to knee height in a year as it

937
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 17: just gets denser.

938
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Speaker 3: If you have.

939
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 17: Different grasses, they'll get taller and whispery a. It all

940
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 17: depends on the lawn you've got yourself.

941
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: Hmm, okay, all right now just a question right, so

942
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Speaker 3: bring I love the bees. I want the bees there

943
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: and I want all the little insects to have a

944
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 3: fantastic time. Can we not just provide for them with hedges?

945
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Speaker 17: Yes, So you have to view your lawn as part

946
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 17: of the environment it's in. It's not just part of

947
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 17: your house. It's not an extension of your house. It's

948
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 17: part of the ecosystem. So you need the flowering hedges,

949
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 17: you need the flowering lawn plants. You need the connectivity

950
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 17: across the mosaic of lawns across the not just New Zealand,

951
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 17: the world, and that way you're going to increase the

952
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 17: biodiversity and the insects. You can't view it as a

953
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Speaker 17: very binary justice.

954
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Speaker 3: Justice Olivia, Thank you, Olivia rook de Voi Auckland University,

955
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Speaker 3: Faculty of Science. I have a friend who planted wildflowers. Actually,

956
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: I mean they had a lawn like I still had

957
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: normal person's lawn, but they did do the wildflower garden.

958
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: It was actually quite nice and I actually think I

959
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: could be into that whilst still mowing the lawn. Actually,

960
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: what am I talking about. I don't have a lawn.

961
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Speaker 3: I forgot fake cruss a five to anyone, So I

962
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Speaker 3: pulled up on my up in my boss's house last

963
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Speaker 3: weekend in the tiny little atto One that the BYD

964
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Speaker 3: guys gave me to drive for a little bit. His

965
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Speaker 3: first reactions is my Boss's first reaction was wow, that's

966
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Speaker 3: a small card put a whole family in. His second

967
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Speaker 3: reaction was, actually, that's quite big inside, which actually is

968
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Speaker 3: what I thought when I put both of the car

969
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Speaker 3: seats in, and it wasn't a problem. Honestly, it is

970
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Speaker 3: incredible how they've managed to give their smallest city car,

971
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972
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973
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982
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Speaker 3: and given the price of petrol at the moment, I

983
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986
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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hell duper clan

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

988
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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be I'll get to the texts on the lawn

990
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: in a minute five twenty five. Now, I've got to

991
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: be careful what I say because Colin Mansbridge of the

992
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: Cruise is going to be with us in a minute.

993
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: But I do think the Crusaders have overreacted to the

994
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: media calling it a punch up when it was not

995
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: a punch up but more of a pushy shovey. What's

996
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: happened is the Crusaders has now banned any media from

997
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: attending the team trainings from here on in. Media have

998
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: been instructed to wait in the foyer until I say

999
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: you can come out and fill the iron time. You

1000
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 3: are not permitted to stand and watch training before this time.

1001
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: Now fair enough, fair enough to take the media to

1002
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: task on this. And it was a mistake right stuff

1003
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: reported that two players had had a punch up when

1004
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: that only actually scuffled. Everyone else followed the same story.

1005
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: Everyone had to correct it and say it was a scuffle.

1006
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 3: I'm not going to defend what stuff or anybody else

1007
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: has done here. It is sloppy, but we all make mistakes,

1008
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: so glasshouses. It's also not the end of the world.

1009
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's a mistake, but it's just a

1010
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: matter of degrees. Right, there was a scuffle. They just

1011
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: didn't throw punches in the scuffle. No one died, no

1012
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: one lost money, no one was defamed, no one's reputation.

1013
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: Reputation isn't tatters. In fact, I think this actually makes

1014
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 3: the Crusaders more interesting. I think this was the most

1015
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 3: interesting rugby story from last week. I think it will

1016
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: almost certainly increase interest in the next game because there

1017
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: will be a whole bunch of people like me who

1018
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 3: will tune in just to see if we can spot

1019
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: some tension between kershel Sykes, Martin and Will Tucker. And

1020
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: now I know what I want to know what the

1021
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: beef between the boys is. This is why ESPN, by

1022
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: the way, sends out push notifications every time basketball players

1023
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: have a fight that's called on video because people want

1024
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: to see it. This is part of the reason we

1025
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: love watching the NRL because we love the boys backstory.

1026
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: I reckon Rob Penny that the coach read this right

1027
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: at the very start. When he was asked, he said

1028
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: it was a lovely sight to see. He didn't see

1029
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: himhased by it at all. But then, of course the

1030
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: media people and the bosses got involved, and then the

1031
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 3: media was banned. Now it's a big deal. I've said

1032
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: it before, I will say it again. Taking this private school,

1033
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: head boy, goody two shoes approach to Rugby is boring.

1034
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: I want to see more befo. I want more drama.

1035
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: I want more of the backstory. I want less of

1036
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: this puritanical approach. I think that might be a good.

1037
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Thing together do for Selan.

1038
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: We'll ask We'll ask Colin when he's FA's next, Heather.

1039
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: I always appreciate a Friday afternoon laugh. But here is

1040
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: why we're screwed as a country. If we're talking about

1041
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: the lawns, omg Olivia, shut up, you fascist. It's quite

1042
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: a reaction to the lawn. My friend tried this, the

1043
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: rats appeared hither. Why are you trying to upset us

1044
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: all with this rubbish on the lawns. I'm off to

1045
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: mow my lawn. Hither, I bet this lady wouldn't want

1046
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: her lawn growing nice and long. In Australia, lots of

1047
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: slithering snakes would like that. Ha ha. Heither, my favorite

1048
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: thing is watching my robot lawn mower cut my lawns.

1049
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: News is next.

1050
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather dups Ellen

1051
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and the Power of Satellite

1052
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Mobile new saw said, be.

1053
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: Heather with a fuel crisis. Isn't it really fortunate that

1054
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: the US now has a nice friendly relationship with Venezuela.

1055
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't possibly say. By the way, on the hours

1056
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: in the Mask Point thing has blown up like our

1057
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 3: predictive it would last week. We've got the former boss

1058
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: of Marsden Point who's going to be with us after

1059
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: six and the sports huddle is standing by. Of course.

1060
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: Now a media ban has been enforced at Crusaders training

1061
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 3: after stuff and then everybody else basically misreported a punch

1062
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: being thrown at training when it was more like a scuffle.

1063
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: The chief executive of the Crusaders is Colin Mansbridge and

1064
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 3: with US Hello.

1065
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 18: Colin Cure to Heather how are you good to chat again?

1066
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Mate? I'm well, thank you, thanks for joining us. So

1067
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: is that the rule now? Media a band forever from training?

1068
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 18: Isn't it interesting? How how excited some journalists can get

1069
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 18: over some things. It's sort of that there is no ban,

1070
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 18: but you know, a bit of jice t get it

1071
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 18: gets added onto the incident itself, and then next minute

1072
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 18: Maddy communicates to a few people and says, oh, look,

1073
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 18: you know, can you be a bit tidy next time?

1074
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 18: And then we're banned. We're banned, We're banned. I just

1075
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 18: don't think it's it's a bit of a storm and

1076
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 18: a teacup. So they're very welcome. The doors are open.

1077
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 18: If you're a chief supporter and you turn up and

1078
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 18: airplanes with a cow belt, it's different. But if you're

1079
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 18: a reporter, you're welcome any time.

1080
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: Didn't she say, though, I'm going to need you all

1081
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: to wait in the four year until training has finished.

1082
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 18: Well, it's actually it's not full training.

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Speaker 19: So there's it's a good question because there's this tension

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Speaker 19: between do we want them filming our line out moves

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Speaker 19: and our back moves and all that, and then broadcasting

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Speaker 19: them to the Highlanders or what other opposition we're playing

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Speaker 19: against before the weekend.

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Speaker 18: And the short answer is we don't. And if you

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Speaker 18: you know, if you see what happened this time around,

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Speaker 18: somebody was taking still images when we said that's a time,

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Speaker 18: then we don't want those images taken. So we we

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Speaker 18: there is this ip thing where you don't really want

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Speaker 18: the opposition seeing what you're planning to do that weekend.

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Speaker 18: But in terms of filming at training, the back end

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Speaker 18: of training, when that's lesser requirement, you know, they're very welcome.

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Speaker 3: Oh so they are allowed to come down for some

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Speaker 3: of the training. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, iron time.

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Speaker 18: Well, that's that's the process of that's the process of

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Speaker 18: where they're not doing set moves, they're not doing you know,

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Speaker 18: they're not doing line outs, you know, scrum moves or something.

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Speaker 2: Of that nature.

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Speaker 18: So but yeah, and they're still doing other stuff and

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Speaker 18: they can still capture image and they're still welcome to

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Speaker 18: come and talk to the players.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so so let's just colin, should we help the

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Speaker 3: media to write the story then, so there's no no miscommunition.

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Speaker 3: Are you are you lifting the ban or are you

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Speaker 3: clarifying that there is no ban and it has been

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Speaker 3: misreported as a ban.

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Speaker 18: It has been misreported as a band, so it's probably

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Speaker 18: worth clarifying. So, Maddie's got a really good relationship with

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Speaker 18: a whole lot of media, with whom many of him

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Speaker 18: with him she used to work. Now, that's interesting how

1114
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 18: they can turn on their own sometimes she's she has

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Speaker 18: very open and honest dialogue with them on WhatsApp or

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Speaker 18: whatever other you know, other medium, And that's meant to

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00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 18: be a bit like a private chattery you wouldn't have

1118
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 18: on the radio, but you'd have, you know, off the

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Speaker 18: radio before you do the broadcast. Some have chosen to

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Speaker 18: probably not honor the integrity of that relationship, and so

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Speaker 18: and so she said, look, I'm disappointed in a couple

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Speaker 18: of you. We said you weren't meant to do this

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Speaker 18: at this time, and you've done that and you've let

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Speaker 18: everybody down. And you know, that's somebody having a conversation

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Speaker 18: with a group of colleagues that she thought she had

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Speaker 18: a better relationship with. So, but there is no media band.

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, cool, Now, Colin, I want I want to

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Speaker 3: know what you think of this.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I reckon that little things like this when we find

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Speaker 3: out a couple of players are having a bit of

1132
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Speaker 3: beef with each other is actually good for the game,

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Speaker 3: because now I'm I now I'm interested in something that

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Speaker 3: I didn't know about fourhand. Do you see it that

1135
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Speaker 3: way or do you see it as bad for the game?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 18: I think it's that there's a fine line, isn't it.

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Speaker 18: You want to see players showing a little bit of

1139
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 18: enthusiasm excitement, and you want a bit of tension in

1140
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Speaker 18: a camp, and at that particular time of the day,

1141
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 18: we're doing opposed training, so that the opposition, so to

1142
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Speaker 18: speak of preparing and planning like the opposition. So it's

1143
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 18: actually not much less than game intensity. And so you

1144
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 18: watch a game of footy and you'll see a lot

1145
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 18: of intensity in the game and naturally it gets to

1146
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 18: the edge sometimes, So that's you know, we would have

1147
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 18: that happen every single training, that people get to the edge.

1148
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 18: So you do want a bit of intensity that the

1149
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 18: story itself is. You know, I'm actually welcome the focus

1150
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 18: on footy. I think it's awesome what I'm probably you know,

1151
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 18: I don't want to think. I don't want people to

1152
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 18: run around thinking that we you know that it's people

1153
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 18: bashing each other all the time. It's high intensity, it's

1154
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 18: done at the edge, like a lot of professional sport

1155
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 18: where there is it's physical and it's combative. You know,

1156
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 18: it's thrilling and exciting and i'd like people to know

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00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 18: about that yet absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Good, I'm pleasing here at Colin as always. I

1159
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Speaker 3: really enjoy having you on the show. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much mate. That's Colin Mansbridge Crusaders Chief executive, nineteen away

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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports with New Zealand Southurdy's international realty, A

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00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: name you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The players are very passionate about your D twenty and

1166
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Speaker 4: I think they're right to be. You know, we're looking

1167
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Speaker 4: forward to New Zealand Cricket making a decision shortly about

1168
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: what it wants to do. It's really disappointing to see

1169
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Speaker 4: some of the head lines around punch or thrown, and.

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Speaker 15: Particularly from media outlets that weren't even present.

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Speaker 2: So it just shows you the quality of that sort

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Speaker 2: of reporting.

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Speaker 7: O GI.

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Speaker 18: I don't know if they realize these two rugby professional

1175
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 18: rugby teams in this city, but we do know that

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 18: they don't want us here.

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Speaker 4: They want us to see us not do well.

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Speaker 16: You know, not thrive.

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Speaker 2: I struggle with that.

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Speaker 3: On the Sports Huddle of Us this evening, Levin are

1181
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: good sports journalist and Paul Allison News talk z'd be

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Speaker 3: rugby commentator, Hell are you too?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So, I mean I think what we're doing is

1185
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Speaker 3: we're splitting hairs ever so slightly here Levina. I think

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Speaker 3: that the media have now been been asked, let's not

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Speaker 3: use the word band, but have been told they're not

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Speaker 3: allowed to come to a certain part of training. They

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Speaker 3: can just come to the last bit.

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Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, I think that that's the way I see

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00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 20: it now after that interview with Colin and explained it

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Speaker 20: quite well, and I think we all know, like there's

1193
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Speaker 20: heaps of scuffles that happened at training, and especially when

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Speaker 20: you're with a teams that's struggling under pressure and.

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Speaker 7: Results aren't going their way. Even that suggestion there was

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Speaker 7: a media ban just makes you feel as though there's

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Speaker 7: speculation something more is happening, and I think the Crusaders

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Speaker 7: are just trying to protect their environments to skip the ban,

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Speaker 7: Let that not happen, stop bashing the crap out of

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Speaker 7: each other at training and bash up the opposition. I

1201
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Speaker 7: think that'll do it.

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Speaker 3: I loved the bashing city on.

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Speaker 10: They've got the Highland of this weekend. Don't bash up

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Speaker 10: the Highlanders, Paul.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon though? I mean, just on the

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: general principle of us knowing that maybe they're not so

1207
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: perfect side of sport. You know what the boys get

1208
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: up to when they're across with each other, or the

1209
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: silly things like getting drunk and finding their way into

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Speaker 3: somebody's flat and eating a burger fuel in their lunge.

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Speaker 3: That kind of stuff, I reckon it makes it all

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Speaker 3: that much more interesting, don't you.

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Speaker 10: Well, it probably does. What Colin outlined around the protocols

1214
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 10: of media being able to attend training and what they're

1215
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Speaker 10: able to catch, it is not anything new. That's happened

1216
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Speaker 10: for many times and many teams where they say it's

1217
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 10: basically they can cover some vision and that's players maybe

1218
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 10: warming up or warming down or throwing the ball around,

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Speaker 10: but not any set moves and any of the technical stuff.

1220
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Speaker 10: And so that's that's not uncommon what Colin's outlined. And

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Speaker 10: Maddie Lloyd's a pretty capable young lady who I've got

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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 10: a lot of time for and I knew when she

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Speaker 10: was in Dneeda, and I think.

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Speaker 2: She does a good job.

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Speaker 10: I love the line though, no punchgate. This is what

1226
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 10: this has come out to be. And you know, you

1227
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 10: talk about intensity, you talk about physical contact, you talk

1228
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 10: about a bit of a scuffle. I think the question

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 10: for me, though, is that you know, media is under

1230
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 10: the spotlight a lot, and if they can't get some

1231
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Speaker 10: of this description right in terms of accuracy, it does

1232
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Speaker 10: water down the media's reputation. So the fact that they've

1233
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 10: got this one wrong. But also I go back a

1234
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Speaker 10: couple of years. I mean Rob Penny was the guy

1235
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Speaker 10: under a bit of pressure. If you recall when Thomas

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 10: Mead and the viewed him for TV one. This was

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Speaker 10: TV three this time that came in and yeah that didn't.

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Speaker 3: End well, was that what it was?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

1240
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Speaker 10: It was he did.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, he said.

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Speaker 3: Who was that? I loved it?

1243
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Interesting, didn't they?

1244
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 9: Well, it did.

1245
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 10: But I think Levina is sort of right that this

1246
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 10: is the team under a little bit of pressure at

1247
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 10: the moment, and the fact that it's no ban, it's

1248
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 10: been blown up out of proportion. There's now some protocols

1249
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 10: and some communication that's been put into place. Let's move

1250
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 10: on and let's take the hardless. Don't get beaten up

1251
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 10: by the crusaders who Levina's talked about it's going to

1252
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Speaker 10: beat people up.

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Speaker 3: I love it all right, Listen you guys, I want

1254
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: to know what you think of the T twenty and

1255
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Speaker 3: all the shenanigans today. We'll talk about it next sixteen

1256
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Speaker 3: away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Friday Sport with New Zealand South of East International real team,

1258
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Speaker 1: the only truly global brand.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back of the sports httle got Paul Allison

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Speaker 3: and Lavina God Now, Paul, should the Sri Lanka series

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Speaker 3: be moved to accommodate the NZ twenty.

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Speaker 10: Well, Cricket's already got three formats and it's a calendar

1263
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 10: that's probably busier than an airport at Christmas time really,

1264
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 10: And the big thing is that we've got to make

1265
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 10: sure that the New Zealand cricket team doesn't get watered

1266
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 10: down in the process. I mean, New Zealand Cricket's got

1267
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 10: some big questions to work through around the scheduling of this.

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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 10: I mean they're talking about maybe postponing or deleting the

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 10: three one dayers and the three T twenties in January

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Speaker 10: and February next year, they've got to play the World

1271
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 10: Test Championship because that's part of the World Test schedule.

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Speaker 10: You've got this T twenty private franchise that's being talked about,

1273
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 10: and you need if that's going to be successful or

1274
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 10: even established, you need the top players playing and you

1275
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 10: can't have this T twenty being the curtain raiser of

1276
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 10: the national team or the national team being the curtain

1277
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 10: raiser to that. So I don't know how they fit

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00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 10: it all in. To be fair, there's too many versions

1279
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 10: of cricket and there's not enough time to put them

1280
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 10: all together. But that's a challenge for New Zealand cricket.

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Speaker 10: And I guess, like everybody else, they're looking for a

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 10: CEO as well, aren't they.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I've got enough.

1284
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 10: I've got enough challenges. On the hand, I don't know

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 10: what the answer.

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Speaker 3: Is, But like you've got Okay, you've got two options, Levina,

1287
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: which option do you choose? You either hold the you

1288
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 3: hold the Sri Lanka series in January at the same

1289
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: time as the T twenty and you accept that you

1290
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Speaker 3: will have a B squad playing Sri Lanka, or you

1291
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: move it so that you can have an A squad

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00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: what do you do.

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Speaker 7: That's a very loaded question, Heather. I'm thinking the reality

1294
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 7: of modern cricket now means franchise legs drive at the

1295
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 7: economy of the sport, and New Zealand's one of a

1296
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: few nations that just doesn't have a franchise leg that

1297
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 7: can attract overseas stars, keep our own players here, engage

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Speaker 7: you know, maybe some more coaches, et cetera. I think

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Speaker 7: ideally the right combination is to find the perfect time

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Speaker 7: and not give up on the free lanker. But if

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Speaker 7: it means you've got to give up on to develop

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Speaker 7: a sport that will keep our players in this country,

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Speaker 7: it may have to be considered by New Zealand Cricket.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Paul Lavina and I have hive mind on this.

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Speaker 3: We agree with each other. Have we convinced you?

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure because I think at the moment we've

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Speaker 10: got a lot of air players playing three different versions

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Speaker 10: of cricket. I know Sifer and Allen and Ferguson a

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01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 10: Nisham and the like aren't contracted to New Zealand cricket,

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Speaker 10: but we still want air top players playing here. Do

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Speaker 10: they have to play in a T twenty legal do

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Speaker 10: they play for New Zealand and what version do they play?

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Speaker 9: I wonder whether I think.

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Speaker 3: I think playing for your country as the premium thing

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Speaker 3: is over because we cannot pay them what the T

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Speaker 3: twenty leagues are paying them.

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Speaker 10: To give out the fans though, what do the fans want?

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Speaker 3: Five million people in the country, we don't count.

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Speaker 10: Well you do, because if you don't have fans, you

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 10: don't have people the eyeballs on the TV set. You

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Speaker 10: don't get your revenue from the sky TV.

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Speaker 3: We want to watch the T twenty pool.

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Speaker 10: If they do, that's cool, if that's what they want,

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Speaker 10: But what do they do water down your national side?

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Speaker 10: And so that's the balancing that you've got Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 3: So if you can move Sri Lanka, then you don't

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Speaker 3: water down.

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Speaker 10: Okay, we'll move Sri Lanka then and push that back.

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Speaker 10: You've got to play the two test matches with them. Anyhow,

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Speaker 10: we come back from Australia and we take off Pakistan.

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 10: I mean it's a loaded schedule. Will chip away you

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Speaker 10: look at it next year?

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Speaker 3: Did you see what I just did? Levina? He agrees

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Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 7: Now I think you can move him.

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Speaker 10: The peer pressure to be fair.

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Speaker 3: I mean, other people would call it bully and Paul,

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Speaker 3: but we won't.

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Speaker 9: Yeh, yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 10: Don't have to worry about human rights. LASA coming your

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Speaker 10: way here.

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Speaker 7: I won't.

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Speaker 2: I won't.

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Speaker 10: I won't lay one time.

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Speaker 3: You're a good man. Thank you. Okay, listen, Paul, tell

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Speaker 3: me well, I've got you on this, Liam Lawson. Is

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Speaker 3: this his last season?

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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 10: I don't think so. You know I felt felt from

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Speaker 10: last year. We've all been there, haven't you. It's like

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01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 10: being stuck on a Friday night rush. Are you dashing

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 10: from work? Everyone's holding it, your late for dinner and

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 10: your car suddenly refuses to move, which is like last week.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's the fourth most experienced formula run racing

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Speaker 10: driver we've ever had in this country, behind three great

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Speaker 10: names of Denny Old, Chris Aimon and Bruce McLaren. And

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Speaker 10: he's only in his four season. He's only twenty four

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 10: years of age, and he hasn't had any luck at

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 10: all in that period of time. I think he'll get

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Speaker 10: some breaks. I don't think this is his last season.

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Speaker 10: You know, it may well be, but I've still got

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Speaker 10: confidence in the young man and I think he's just

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Speaker 10: got to get a few breaks going his way, and

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Speaker 10: that'll build his confidence and maybe to support team around them.

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Speaker 7: Leavena, I think the Red Bull system is brutal, and

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Speaker 7: from what I can tell, if you don't deliver, if

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Speaker 7: the results aren't there, there's always another young driver coming through.

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Speaker 7: So I think it possibly could be. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: a proven year for him, and if he can't prove it,

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Speaker 7: it may be the last opportunity he'll have with Racing

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Speaker 7: Bulls or the Senior Red Bull team. He'll have to

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Speaker 7: look somewhere else. He needs results and that's why they

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01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 7: have him in the hot seat. Is full results. Get

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Speaker 7: the results, lave and yet you will hang around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: So Leavina, you're our resident worry is expert. Are they

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Speaker 3: going to win tonight?

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Speaker 7: I'm excited. I'm really excited. I think it'll be tricky tonight.

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Speaker 7: I'm the Raiders with the minor Premier's lastyear, lost a

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Speaker 7: couple of matches in the finals, but I was just

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 7: so impressed. I think what impressed me most about the

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Speaker 7: Warriors last week wasn't the score, it was the attack.

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01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 7: The Warriors had multiple line breaks across the park, their

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 7: spine looks confident and they trusted each other, and they're

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01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 7: up against the team that is very dangerous. The Raiders

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01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 7: have come off a very very tight golden point win

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Speaker 7: against Manly, so they know what it's like to win.

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Speaker 7: But I think I think the Warriors have what it

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Speaker 7: takes to make it to love already in the beginning

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Speaker 7: of the season, which will reward the fans. And all

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Speaker 7: they need to do is have faith in each other

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 7: and play like they did last week and also kick tackling.

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Speaker 7: I'm loving seeing a Warriors tne back under them.

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Speaker 3: Oh you made me feel good about it, guys, Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much. Paul Allison Levina good asports huddle seven

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Speaker 3: Away from Sex.

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: my Ard Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, hither, you aren't in any way qualified to have

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01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: views on cricket about that today? Actually, I was thinking

1401
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: about texts like that. Is that an old get back

1402
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: in the kitchen? Is that? Is that where that's coming from?

1403
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: Like you're a woman. You may have opinions on baking

1404
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: and vacuuming, but you cannot possibly have any opinions on sport.

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean like, I don't know if you heard Levina,

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: but she knows nothing about it, like nothing here. She

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: was just talking, no idea what she was talking about,

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: no views at all anyway, So this is what I say.

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01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: I reckon, I have played as much cricket in my

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 3: life as Piney has. You listen to Piney. He didn't

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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 3: know anything. He's not a professional sports player. I reckon.

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Speaker 3: I could take him in five workds. Oh no, no, no,

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: let's bit no. I reckon. I could take a wicked

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01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: five overs from him. I reckon, I could clean bowl

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01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: them or in LBW, I get one of the two,

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01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: and I would that settle it? Would would What do

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 3: you reckon?

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Speaker 13: Andy?

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Speaker 9: That settle it?

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Speaker 21: I mean he's got a lot of leg to get

1421
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 21: get him albw, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: So he has, and I've got great bowling form. Oh

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: you were, Yeah, you're.

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Speaker 21: From that pedigree as well of good South African quack.

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: So oh this isn't there duplasy that that doesn't faff?

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: He was great, wasn't he He's basically and then what's

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: his name finalon different spelling, but basically my cousin. So

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01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: you know anyway, hey, do you know this? I don't

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: have time to tell you, but I'm going to tell

1430
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: you about the CIN a minute. Do you know that

1431
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: silly thing that the kids used to say, the word scucks.

1432
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: Didn't choose to skucksfe skucks, choose me? You know scucks?

1433
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: A famous sports person in this country invented that thing

1434
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 3: that the kids said for decades. I'm going to tell

1435
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: you about that when I get a chance in the

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01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 3: next hour. But next up we're going to talk about

1437
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: Marsden Point. The boss of Marlesden Point is with us,

1438
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: former boss and he will answer the questions on who's

1439
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: to blame for shutting it down and would it have

1440
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: changed anything in this oil crisis that we're having right now.

1441
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: News Talk ZB.

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: Keeping track of the money is glowing with of a

1443
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: business hour, we've had the duplicy Allen and Mas insurance

1444
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: and investments.

1445
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: Your future is in good hands, used dog ZB.

1446
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 9: Evening.

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01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: Coming up in the next hour, Barry Soap is going

1448
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: to wrap the political week that was for us. Peter

1449
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 3: Lewis is going to give us the latest on what

1450
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: the Asian economies are doing oil wise, and we'll also

1451
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: go to Gavin Gray, who is in the UK for US.

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Speaker 3: At seven past six Now, as predicted, Marsden Marsden Point

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01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: Oil Refinery in its closure has turned into a subject

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: of debate. Now there have been calls to reopen the

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01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: thing as we face a potential energy crisis because of

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Speaker 3: the Iaran Ward. David Keat is a former refinery manager

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Speaker 3: at Marsden Point and is with us.

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Speaker 2: Hi David, Yeah, Hi, heada, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. Do you think the country

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01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: would be in a better position if that that refinery

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Speaker 3: was still open today?

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Yes, without question. That's why one of the several big

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01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 16: reasons you might have an oil refinery, but fuel security

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01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 16: is definitely one of them. That was why I was

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Speaker 16: originally built in the first place in nineteen sixty four

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Speaker 16: and was expanded in the eighties for fuel security.

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Speaker 3: If the we're told that the toge points are the

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Speaker 3: same regardless of what you're important, whether it's refined oil

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Speaker 3: or crude oil. So what would the difference be.

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Speaker 16: So the price or I missed the key were there,

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Speaker 16: the wes would be different.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't affect our ability to get supply in because

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Speaker 3: you know that's not true.

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Speaker 16: Explain to make petrol, diesel, jet fuel, bitumen the fuel

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Speaker 16: ols for the ships. Right, you need three things. You

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Speaker 16: need crude oil, you need an oil refinery, and you

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Speaker 16: need ships or pipelines to get between the three places. Right,

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Speaker 16: So there are I don't know exactly, but they're probably

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Speaker 16: more than a thousand operating oil fields around the world.

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Speaker 16: There are really an enormous number, all of which are

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Speaker 16: slightly different. When you transfer that to an oil refinery.

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Speaker 16: The oil refinery turns often a mixture into petrol and

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Speaker 16: diesel and so on. What New Zealand did when we

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Speaker 16: close our our refinery as we moved that refinery from

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Speaker 16: New Zealand to a foreign place. So I don't have

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Speaker 16: maybe a thousand sources of potential crude and a disaster

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Speaker 16: like this. You were down to saying that this one

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Speaker 16: refinery in South Korea, Well, let's say there might be three. Japan,

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Speaker 16: South Korea, and Singapore are very large export refineries in India,

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Speaker 16: but they're exporting in other places. So it really comes

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Speaker 16: down to those three. We're dependent on those or most

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Speaker 16: of the time in South Korea. So if the South

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Speaker 16: Korean refinery has to slow down because it hasn't got

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Speaker 16: enough crude or for whatever reasons, it has to supply

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Speaker 16: other customers or South carew itself. We're the last taxi

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Speaker 16: on that rank, so we're definitely more vulnerable than if

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Speaker 16: we had our own refinery.

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Speaker 3: Okay, David, So the country may regret the fact that

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Speaker 3: it has closed down. Would the private company that chose

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Speaker 3: to close it down regret it too?

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01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 16: Oh, not at all. They did it quite deliberately. The

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 16: it should be careful, exactly what I say on air.

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 16: But no, the strategy for the companies that sold it

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 16: and bought it was for the sellers to make a

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 16: lot of money in a hurry, and the company that

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 16: brought it they had a strategy of supplying New Zealand

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Speaker 16: without an aor refinery. So there was quite a lot

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 16: of disinformation put around at the time about how it

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Speaker 16: was improfitable and small refiners were closing and so on,

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Speaker 16: most of which does not bear scrutiny. But anyway, I

1512
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 16: think that's history in a way. I mean, it's gone,

1513
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 16: it will never be restarted, so we kind of have

1514
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 16: to look forward.

1515
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: There is some debate though, and I mean it is

1516
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: reputational here as well, so I take your point about

1517
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: looking forward, but for some reputations are on the line here,

1518
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: and the Labor government has been accused of at least

1519
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: aiding the closure by not trying to prevent it. Is

1520
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: that fair?

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 16: I think it's not on balance fair because remember this

1522
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 16: was a commercial decision by a series of private companies

1523
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 16: and a commercial They were acting in what they saw

1524
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 16: as the best interests of their companies. Right, they did

1525
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 16: need to get permission from mb and the Minister of

1526
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 16: the time, and obvious Labor was in power for that,

1527
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 16: but overwhelmingly the responsibil lies with the company is involved.

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's Could we not, as a

1529
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: company have have turned it into a state asset?

1530
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

1531
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, without question. Australia actually has a precedent to presidents.

1532
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 16: They were slowly closing their all refineries over the nineties

1533
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 16: and the noughties, and two of them were kept open

1534
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 16: for fuel security by quite low level government subsidies. Ironically,

1535
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 16: one of them is in Brisbane operated by the same

1536
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 16: company that now owns said energy and closed in the

1537
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 16: market and point Or refinery. So the crowning irony.

1538
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 3: So if you were to lay blame with the last government,

1539
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 3: you could lay blame for not turning into a state asset.

1540
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: Now here's a.

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01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: Question for you. Is it true that concrete was poured

1542
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: into the pipes, thereby making it impossible to reopen.

1543
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 16: I'm not sure about the story with concrete. I really

1544
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 16: couldn't comment on that in an informed way, but I

1545
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 16: do know that they kind of deliberately downgraded the asset

1546
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 16: so that it could never be reopened. So it can

1547
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 16: never be reopened. The replacement cost of the refinery is

1548
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 16: in New Zealand dollars a minimum of five billion, probably more.

1549
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 16: So that can't happen. There's much better ways to spend

1550
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 16: five million dollars on energy security than in rebuilding the refinery.

1551
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, thank you for joining us and talking us

1552
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: through that, David, appreciate your expertise. David Keeth, former Marsden

1553
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: Point Refinery manager, twelve plus.

1554
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: Six ever dup c Ellen.

1555
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 3: So, I was going to tell you that I'm going

1556
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: to tell you this thing about skarks and where it

1557
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: comes from, but I think that there's more important thing

1558
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 3: to just tell you after that conversation with David, So,

1559
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that settled it, didn't it, Which

1560
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: was that? Yeah, sure it was the z Energy guys

1561
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: who shut it down for their own benefit. Government could

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: have stepped in and chose not to step in and

1563
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 3: save the thing if it was even possible, And it's

1564
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: a mistake that we can now look back on and

1565
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: maybe we need to think about our own security a

1566
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: little bit more, right, fuel security, food security, all the

1567
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 3: other securities as well, energy security. Take the stuff a

1568
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: little bit more seriously. Not going to happen. I think

1569
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: we're all still of the view that is probably not

1570
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 3: going to happen that we end up with a fuel shortage.

1571
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: But should a fuel shortage actually end up happening in

1572
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: the country, how this would look is probably We've got

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01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: some clues from the nineteen eighty one law, which the

1574
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: officials have apparently dusted off to try to figure out,

1575
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 3: you know, to help them maybe manage the fuel demand.

1576
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: Apparently the law does things like it allows the government

1577
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 3: to ban people from filling the jerry cans and other

1578
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: containers to basically prevent the hoarding it sets. It gives

1579
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: the government powers to set maximum limits on how much

1580
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: fuel any individual could buy on a single visit. It

1581
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: allows them to issue coupons to ration purchases. It can

1582
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: allow them to force petrol stations to change their hours

1583
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: or open only on alternate days, and in the worst case,

1584
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 3: it restricts pumps only to so called critical customers. Critical

1585
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 3: customers are obviously things like emergency vehicles, hospital vehicles, correction

1586
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: facility vehicles, and in some cases the generators that they

1587
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 3: that they may need to run food supply chains and utilities.

1588
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Speaker 3: We'll get de stucks in a minute. Fourteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by Newstalks EBB. Crunching the numbers

1591
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen on the

1592
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: Business Hour with MAS Insurance and Investments, Your Futures in

1593
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: Good Hands, News Talks EDB.

1594
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: South Korea has moved to cap the fuel price starting

1595
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: today to ease the burden on the consumers. So we'll

1596
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: check in with Peter Lewis. That's the very thing that

1597
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: Nikola Willis has ruled out doing in New Zealand, although

1598
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 3: I suspect if it came to it, she would probably

1599
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: back down on it. Anyway, we will talk to Peter

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Speaker 3: Lewis when he's with us out of Asia shortly right

1601
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: now at seventeen past six, now wrapping the political week,

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: that was. We have Barry Soper, senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry.

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 14: Oh again, we'll here the much more informed I am.

1604
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 3: Now who appointed Paul Eagle?

1605
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 14: The council, The council appointed them, and the mayor council,

1606
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 14: the Chattam Marlins.

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01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: Count Okay, okay, So it's not really a job for

1608
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 3: the boys, is it. It's it's that's a legitimate process.

1609
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 14: Well, you know he was the MP I guess for

1610
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,440
Speaker 14: the Chatham Islands.

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: But I mean they might have You can see how

1612
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: that would happen. You're out on the Chatham Islands. You've

1613
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 3: only got six hundred people. You probably don't get like

1614
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 3: a really great, you know, bunch of candidates for a

1615
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: job like that. And then you get this guy. He's

1616
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: been a mayor, always run for the mayor. He's been

1617
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: an MP's of Wellington as well. Yeah, he's a big

1618
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 3: week from the city. So you think, wow, we've scored

1619
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: big time with it.

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 14: I think I might apply for the job.

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: I mean it's true and not about Hey, I heard

1622
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: the accommodation is really nice.

1623
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 14: Mila Applions.

1624
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 3: Now do you think that it was a bit was

1625
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: it over hype? The treatment of Luxe and or was

1626
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: it fair?

1627
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 14: Well, look, it was this time last week, well an

1628
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 14: arrow earlier that Luxon was on your show and said

1629
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 14: that he had no intention of thinking about his future

1630
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 14: over the weekend and certainly was going to stand aside.

1631
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,520
Speaker 14: And you know, he faced off his caucus on Tuesday.

1632
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 14: No problems because they all know that it's far too

1633
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 14: close to an election to have a change in leader.

1634
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 14: And a lot of people will say, well, and on

1635
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 14: Labor did it in twenty seventeen, Well they did, but

1636
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 14: then Jasinda Dern was a different kettle of fish, young,

1637
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 14: not unattractive and certainly appealed to the public with the disindomania.

1638
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 14: But National really has got no one like that. And

1639
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 14: thank goodness because we saw what happened when you went

1640
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 14: on Charisma Only and you know, six years later the

1641
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 14: country's in the struck.

1642
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, But Mary, I mean, the thing is, look, I

1643
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: know it's been described as a storm in a teacup,

1644
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 3: but I really don't think it is. If you've got

1645
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 3: polling that's trending down in the way that it is,

1646
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: they are in big trouble, like they're going to lose

1647
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: a lot of MP's of it.

1648
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 14: Well, what you'll see is, I wo'd imagine is the

1649
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 14: same coalition government after November the SEI, but there.

1650
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,440
Speaker 3: Will be more more New Zealand.

1651
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 14: And yes, so the power of National will probably be

1652
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 14: whittled away to some extent. And then you have the

1653
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 14: prospect and a lot of people have talked about it

1654
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 14: of Winston Peters maybe demanding eighteen months as Prime minister,

1655
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 14: and I wouldn't put it past him. I mean, it's

1656
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 14: it'll be his last election. He'll be eighty one come

1657
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 14: the election and would probably quite like a taste of

1658
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 14: the job, although he has had that in thement.

1659
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 3: She's honestly, give the guy a turn, just for sake

1660
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: him out of and give him.

1661
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 14: He's made enough governance to be able to know what

1662
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 14: it takes to be a good primate.

1663
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm interested in whether you think that Chris Hopkins,

1664
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Chris Hopkins hasn't come out of the COVID

1665
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: inquiry terribly, but he also hasn't come out of it

1666
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 3: super well. And Aucklanders who are angry with him, it

1667
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: just makes us as angry as we were before. But

1668
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: is it going to influence our vote or is our

1669
01:16:59,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: vote already locked.

1670
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 14: In which I know, I think, particularly here in Auckland,

1671
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 14: I think you know, there will be some ill will

1672
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 14: spilling into the ballot box come November, because.

1673
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: It's already going to happens.

1674
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 14: It had already happened at the last election. But I

1675
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 14: think the fact that this COVID reporters come out and

1676
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 14: it showed probably the most serious thing was that they

1677
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 14: didn't pass on information. This is he and Ai Cheveril,

1678
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 14: the Health Minister, about the dangers of giving a second

1679
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 14: COVID JAB to under eighteen year olds. So you know

1680
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 14: that's bad because the official advice was that it could

1681
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 14: lead to my carditis. But it really hasn't because you know,

1682
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 14: you go and look at the figures, maybe possibly twenty

1683
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 14: people have got and I suppose twenty is certainly too many,

1684
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 14: and that sort of advice should have been handed on

1685
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 14: certainly from the pulpit of truth.

1686
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: We will never forgive them for matter how much did

1687
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 3: you love what Brian Roach did with the teacher's union.

1688
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 14: Oh, I think it's an amazing turn of events because

1689
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 14: I can't remember that ever being done. I mean, it's

1690
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 14: you'd have to say, if you're thumping the husting's table,

1691
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 14: you'd have to say, look, this is undermining the union.

1692
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 14: This is union busting if you like, and it is

1693
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 14: no doubt about it. You pay people that are not

1694
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 14: members of the union and hold up those who are

1695
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 14: members of the union who haven't even had the opportunity

1696
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 14: to look at the offer yet. I assume they have now,

1697
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 14: and I would imagine they'll be settling fairly soon because

1698
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 14: you imagine the staff rooms at the primary schools. At

1699
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 14: the moment you've got non unionized labor, you've got unionized labor.

1700
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 14: The non unionized more money in their pockets. Maybe they

1701
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 14: should turn on morning tea for the unionized members.

1702
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: Barry, Thank you very much, rupreciate it, Barry Soper wrapping

1703
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: the political week that was six twenty two.

1704
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1705
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: on the business hour with head the duper SILA and

1706
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: MAS insurance and investments.

1707
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands. Used talks vy all right.

1708
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: So you know the silly thing that the kids used

1709
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: to say, skucks. Didn't choose to skuck side skuts, I

1710
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: choose me. Well, it turns out the word skuks was

1711
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: actually invented by none other than Martin nou So back

1712
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seven, he and his mate, we're watching

1713
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 3: Tali after school and the more Tees ice cream ad

1714
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: is that Hey browns. Anyway, the ice cream ad came

1715
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 3: on and this is what it sounded like, Skarko Marto

1716
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: dare to indulge. So it's the Skarko Martel thing that

1717
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: started off. That means check made in Italian. And so

1718
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: they wondered what the some worn transliteration of Skarko Marto

1719
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 3: would be. So they came up with skick sikkaki and

1720
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: they used to get our kids are they'd yell at

1721
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 3: it out of each other when they were pulling pranks

1722
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: and being being bits of dickheads and stuff. And so

1723
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 3: it went from sikkhaki to skucky to skuck to sku

1724
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: and from there it just took on its life of

1725
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: its own. It was usually used in the early twenties

1726
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: to describe Pacifica men who were following the fashion trends

1727
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 3: that had the jelled hair. You need to think omc

1728
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: here gelled hair, flat iron, bleached yellow tips, all of

1729
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: that stuff. Anyway, Apparently, according to some reports, the term

1730
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: died off in the mid twenty tens because white people

1731
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 3: started using it. Basically, white people started using it. It made

1732
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: it uncle anyway. Maybe it's also because people who looked

1733
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: skucks became extinct, but there you go. It came from Marunanu.

1734
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 3: So Rugby is is not as only claim to fames

1735
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 3: six twenty six.

1736
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1737
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: Now, if you watch Maths, you'll know who mal Shilling is.

1738
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: Mal Shilling has given an update on her cancer. It's

1739
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 3: not looking good because it's got into her brain. So

1740
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: she got the colon cancer in twenty twenty three, had

1741
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: it removed, was told she was in the clare. A

1742
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: year later, some cancer nodules were found in her lugs, lungs.

1743
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: Now it's in her brain. She's posted an update to Instagram.

1744
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: It's got a photo of herself, of her husband and

1745
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 3: her daughter, and she said she's got head and numbness.

1746
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: Doctors told her there's nothing more they can do for her.

1747
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: She's undergo undergone sixteen rounds of chemotherapy while filming the

1748
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: latest season of Maths. But a few weeks ago she

1749
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: announced she's going to be stepping back from the show

1750
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 3: to focus on her health because she's got no treatment

1751
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: options available. She now says she doesn't know how much

1752
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: time she has left. And of course, as you can imagine,

1753
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,440
Speaker 3: it is the talk of Maths fans who are completely

1754
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 3: gripped by the show and devastated by the news. And

1755
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: hopefully this goes as well for her as can possibly

1756
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: be expected, because it's pretty grim news for her. Right,

1757
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 3: Peter Lewis is going to be with us next. It's

1758
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 3: going to talk us through what's going on in Asia

1759
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: re the oil crisis, and I suppose the implications for

1760
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: us there on in newstalksz'd be.

1761
01:21:50,320 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: And everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business

1762
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,520
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather dupic Allen and MAS Insurance and investments,

1763
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands used.

1764
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: Talk Zippy.

1765
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 3: Firs zed Cashmere at ten to four just before you

1766
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 3: came on the radio. Ninety one was two dollars ninety nine.

1767
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 3: I've just driven past again and it's now three dollars

1768
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: two cents zero point nine, so it's gone up. What's

1769
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: three cents?

1770
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 9: Thank you for that?

1771
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: Well, it moves very very quickly. Right, it's twenty four

1772
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 3: away from seven, and Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent,

1773
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 3: is with us. Hello, Peter Good evening Hella. Okay, so

1774
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: what are the Asian economies doing to deal with what's

1775
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 3: going on with oil?

1776
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 22: Well, that what they're worried about is that we're going

1777
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 22: to get an energy driven inflation shock. The problem for

1778
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 22: Asian economies and a lot of others around the world

1779
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 22: is that about twenty million barrels per day of oil

1780
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 22: comes through the strait of hor Moves and lots of

1781
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 22: other things as well that are absolutely essential to supply chain. So,

1782
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 22: for example, fertilizer, a large part of that is produced

1783
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 22: in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. If the price of fertilizer

1784
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 22: goes up or there are shortages, then the price of

1785
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 22: food goes up as well. So we don't really know

1786
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 22: at the moment just how big the consequences of this

1787
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 22: are going to be. But I've seen estimates that suggest

1788
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 22: that if oil remains above one hundred dollars about for

1789
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 22: any extended period of time, it could, by the end

1790
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 22: of the year add maybe one percent, perhaps even one

1791
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 22: and a half percent to inflation. So you're going to

1792
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 22: see that as you've just described, for example, at the

1793
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 22: petrol pumps, you'll see prices rising there very quickly. That

1794
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 22: will lower growth. The IMF is estimating growth could fall

1795
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 22: globally by as much as one percent, and in turn,

1796
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 22: the central banks around the world will be in a

1797
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 22: very difficult position because rather than cutting rates as has

1798
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 22: been the case recently, they may have to turn around

1799
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 22: and raise rates instead to stop this inflation taking hold.

1800
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 22: So it's a very difficult situation some countries, the bigger countries,

1801
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 22: tend to be better prepared for this. So China, for example,

1802
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 22: has got the world's biggest stockpiles of oil. It's got

1803
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 22: about one point two billion barrels. Japan has got about

1804
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 22: two hundred and fifty days worth of reserves. And it

1805
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 22: tends to be the smaller countries that most of all

1806
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 22: suffer from this, that they're the ones that first see

1807
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 22: this inflation shock, and they're the ones that see growth

1808
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 22: slow down sharply, and in the worst case scenario, they

1809
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 22: end up seeing their economies becoming completely derailed by this.

1810
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Right, So this talk of car pooling in four day

1811
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: weeks as the series.

1812
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's happening ready. If you look at Vietnam, for example,

1813
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 22: they're tapping into an emergency fund that they've set up

1814
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 22: to try and subsidize fuel prices, so they're actually dispersing

1815
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 22: money from this stabilization fund for each leader of gasoline

1816
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 22: and these all that's purchased to try and bring it down.

1817
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 22: Thailand is doing a similar thing. You've got in the

1818
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 22: Philippines governments. They're ordering officials there to limit official travel.

1819
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 22: You've got other countries that are starting to implement four

1820
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 22: day weeks. Thailand's governments has told most of its staff

1821
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 22: to stay at home. You've got similar things going on

1822
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 22: in India and Bangladesh. So yeah, so it is actually

1823
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 22: very serious. The governments around the region are very worried

1824
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,839
Speaker 22: about this, and at all costs they're trying to avoid

1825
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 22: this spike in fuel prices be so damaging to their economies.

1826
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: Okay, and what is this investing in people strategy that

1827
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: China's up to.

1828
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 22: Yes, this has come out of the two sessions which

1829
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 22: finished earlier in the week, and part of that was

1830
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 22: the new five year plan, which is going to take

1831
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 22: the economy up until twenty thirty. The issue for China

1832
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 22: is they've got to pivot away from this export driven,

1833
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 22: very heavy investment driven model and rely more on domestic

1834
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 22: demand and get people to go out and spend and

1835
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 22: to get consumption up as a percentage of the economy

1836
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 22: more to sort of Western levels. So Beijing has set

1837
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 22: seven livelihood related targets because the belief is and rightly so,

1838
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 22: that if you can provide more support networks, for example,

1839
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 22: help women get back into the workforce, then that will

1840
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 22: help the the domestic demand and get people spending. So

1841
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 22: they're looking at things like longer education for the working

1842
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:14,879
Speaker 22: age population, expanding senior care capacity, having more doctors, pledging

1843
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 22: more support for childbearing and so on, and then people

1844
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 22: will feel more confident about their economic situation and about

1845
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 22: their financial situation and as a result will go out

1846
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 22: and spend. And of course there's a huge domestic market

1847
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 22: there to go and spend in. It's just at the

1848
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 22: moment people just don't want to do it. They're worried

1849
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 22: about losing their jobs. The unemployment rate is high. They're

1850
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 22: worried about their homes. They're seeing the value of their

1851
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 22: properties been declining now every year for the past five years.

1852
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 22: So this is a top priority for China to try

1853
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 22: and focus on domestic consumption rather than expanding exports month

1854
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 22: after month than we saw in the first two months

1855
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 22: of the year. Another big jump in exports from China

1856
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 22: around the world, and that big trade surplus that it

1857
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 22: has one point two trillion dollars a year is just

1858
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 22: not getting any smaller. If anything, it's getting bigger.

1859
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: YEA, hey, thank you very much, Peter. It's always good

1860
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 3: to talk to you, and we'll talk to you again

1861
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 3: next week's stay safe. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent,

1862
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 3: eighteen away from seven. Eatherether Oh, this is this is

1863
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: they're having a crack at me over my sports views.

1864
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: Heather.

1865
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: It's because your view is way too simplistic. You had

1866
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: a purely commercial view. This country is poor. We'd have

1867
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 3: nothing if we took a purely commercial view on everything. Well,

1868
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 3: we'd have money if we took a purely commercial view

1869
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: on anything. So you probably undermined your own argument there.

1870
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: But look, this is a will I will concede. This

1871
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: is a potential problem with my view of sport, and

1872
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: that I do. I do like the idea that netball

1873
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 3: might make some money and be able to pay its

1874
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 3: players properly and wash its own face, saying with cricket,

1875
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: saying with rugby. So so, yeah, if you're of the

1876
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: view that it should be subsidized by the taxpayer not

1877
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 3: make enough money to pay its players properly. Then we

1878
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: are never going to agree with each other on that.

1879
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 20: I didn't know.

1880
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 3: I was gonna say I didn't know this, but literally

1881
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: none of us knew this until today because it has

1882
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: been kept secret. But Iran's most senior diplomat in Australia

1883
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: actually defected to Australia and received asylum three years ago.

1884
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 3: It as the former charged affair at the embassy in Canberra.

1885
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: It's only come to light today. It doesn't appear that

1886
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 3: Australia was going to release this information at all, at

1887
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 3: least not officially by itself. It wasn't going to front

1888
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: foot it. It only came to light because there is

1889
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 3: a London based media outfit called the Iran International News Service,

1890
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 3: which has nothing to do with the regime. It seems

1891
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,879
Speaker 3: to be like as it says, independent, and it reported

1892
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: today that this had happened three years ago, and as

1893
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 3: a result it has now been confirmed. But yeah, the

1894
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 3: five football players defecting to Australia is nothing new by

1895
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 3: the looks of things. Also, if you're wondering what's going

1896
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 3: on with I think we all are. What's going on

1897
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 3: with the new Ayatollah, with the new Supreme Leader. Is

1898
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 3: he alive? Is he well? We haven't heard from him

1899
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 3: since the bombing. I haven't heard from him since the bombing.

1900
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him put out a statement. But I

1901
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 3: could put out a statement, couldn't I. It could be

1902
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 3: somebody else putting out of statement for me. We now know,

1903
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 3: of course, since yesterday, that he was in the attack

1904
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 3: that killed his father and his son and his mother

1905
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: and his wife, and he received some injuries apparently to

1906
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: the arms and the legs and stuff like that, and

1907
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 3: was in hospital. So that's a mystery in and of itself.

1908
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 3: But now there's a mystery around his mother, the former

1909
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Supreme Leader's wife. Iranian state media set on Thursday that,

1910
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 3: contrary to earlier reports, she's actually survived the attack. They

1911
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 3: report two days after the attack, they said that she'd

1912
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: died in a coma. Apparently not true alive after all.

1913
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 3: So the mystery deepens.

1914
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 9: Do isn't it?

1915
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: Sixteen away from seven?

1916
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: Ever's to do with money? It matters to you The

1917
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Business Hour with Heather Dupas Allen and Mayor's Insurance and Investments.

1918
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands us talk ziby.

1919
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Evening herether read the petrol price BP and Palmeerston North

1920
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 3: was three dollars thirty this morning for ninety eight. Now

1921
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: it's three dollars thirty six this afternoon. Jesus, we carry

1922
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: on like this, We're going to start the panic buying ourselves.

1923
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven and Gavin Gray are UK correspondents

1924
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 3: with US Allo Gevin Hi. So British forces are involved

1925
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 3: in the war, are they?

1926
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: Yes, they've become involved in the war.

1927
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 23: They have been sharing a base in a Bila in Iran, sorry,

1928
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 23: in Iraq, when that base was hit by a number

1929
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 23: of UAVs that's so called unmanned aerial vehicles or drones,

1930
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 23: of course, and they managed to get a couple two

1931
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 23: Iranian drones were shot down overnight, but others did get

1932
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 23: through and did damage the base, which is the capital

1933
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 23: of the Kurdistan region, and that did injure a number

1934
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 23: of US troops. There have been no British casualties, thankfully,

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Speaker 23: but nevertheless casualties on the American side there, and they're

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Speaker 23: saying that the base has been struck a number of times.

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Speaker 23: So the Defense Secretary has also said that the UK

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Speaker 23: has flown air combat patrols over Jordan, the United Arab

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Speaker 23: Emirates and KATA saying that the RAF jets are continuing

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Speaker 23: to fly in defense of Cyprus and added as well,

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Speaker 23: the UK clocked up more than three hundred pilot flying

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Speaker 23: hours over the last thirteen days. So that does suggest

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Speaker 23: the UK is becoming more and more involved in this,

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Speaker 23: and the news that they've shot down some drains drones

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Speaker 23: will actually, I think support those that are saying, you know,

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Speaker 23: we're playing this defensive role and playing it well but

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Speaker 23: not wanting to get involved in the instead of opposing

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Speaker 23: force measures.

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Speaker 3: And so what's this chapin do buy in trouble for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an extraordinary story.

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Speaker 23: But a sixty year old British Man and a tourist

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Speaker 23: in Dubai has been detained under cyber crime laws. Now,

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Speaker 23: what we think he's been up to, but the evidence

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Speaker 23: is very vague and this is only through secondhand as

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Speaker 23: it were, is that his phone was inspected by a

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Speaker 23: police officer and he had taken film of an Iranian

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Speaker 23: drone flying into the United Arab Emirates. Now, there is

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Speaker 23: a law in the UAE saying that you should not

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Speaker 23: publish or share material that could disturb public security. And

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Speaker 23: it's been estimated by one group that twenty one people

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Speaker 23: have now been charged under this cyber crime law for

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Speaker 23: having something on their phone that they filmed while they're

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Speaker 23: in the country. And I'm just saying this is absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 23: Of course, what it is about, without doubt is that

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Speaker 23: protection of reputation that the United Arab Emirates do buy

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Speaker 23: a safe place to go and travel, very clean, very

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Speaker 23: very nice, and all the rest of it. But of

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Speaker 23: course we do know that some of the most iconic

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Speaker 23: buildings have been damaged by Iranian drones, like the Fairmont,

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Speaker 23: the Palm Hotel, the luxurious Palm Jamrr area, that Burge

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Speaker 23: Al Arab Hotel have all been here, and these pictures

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Speaker 23: have been on our news, and yet it would appear

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Speaker 23: that anyone who's there should not be filming.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah apparently. So now, okay, tell me what the

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Speaker 3: problem with the weather aps is.

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Speaker 23: Well, this is a story that's just sort of come

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Speaker 23: out because there is now a group of eighty outdoor

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Speaker 23: attractions here in the UK and they're saying that the

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Speaker 23: way whether apps present the weather with a single picture

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Speaker 23: or a couple of words is very misleading and it's

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Speaker 23: costing them a lot of money. Here in the UK

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Speaker 23: we have an expression four seasons in one day. In

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Speaker 23: other words, they can be lovely bright sunshine for part

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Speaker 23: of the day, but potentially very heavy rain or great

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Speaker 23: cool another.

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Speaker 2: Part of the day.

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Speaker 23: And they're saying one single picture from a weather app

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Speaker 23: can actually put people off.

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Speaker 9: They say, for.

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Speaker 23: Instance, the other day there was a rain single signal

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Speaker 23: over the day, and in fact only two or three

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Speaker 23: hours of daylight had rain.

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Speaker 2: The rest was all clear.

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Speaker 23: And yet of course they think that it can lead

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Speaker 23: to thirty percent drop in business by people seeing a

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Speaker 23: weather app single image. So they're saying, look, please, can

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Speaker 23: we be more detailed?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I have some sympathy for this argument, Gavin, thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. I appreciate it. Kevin Gray, UK corresponding reason

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Speaker 3: I have sympathy for the argument is because when we

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Speaker 3: were in the Coromandel, I was talking to the lady

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Speaker 3: who runs the cafe shop down the bottom of the hill,

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Speaker 3: and she said to me that business had dropped off

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Speaker 3: because there had been this forecast of terrible rain by

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Speaker 3: the Met Service. Now it might be I might be

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Speaker 3: unfairly maligning the Met Service here. I just I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: that the other ones that do the little Google app,

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Speaker 3: you know Google app, I'm in the phone app. What

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Speaker 3: if an iPhone app? You click on the thing and

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Speaker 3: then it gives you like every hour has like the symbol. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: she said that had just driven all these these domestic

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Speaker 3: tourists away because it looked like it was going to

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Speaker 3: be rain for weeks on end. And Coromander, we had

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Speaker 3: the loveliest summer we did. So the iPhone app send

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Speaker 3: everybody home. So maybe, yeah, if we could, or like alternatively,

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Speaker 3: we could learn to read it properly because when it

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Speaker 3: says thirty percent rain, it actually means there's a greater

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Speaker 3: chance of no rain. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I've got some good news for you. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to hear this? This is the here listen to what

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Speaker 3: I am saying to you. This is science. It's science.

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Speaker 3: It's from the New Zealand Medical Journal. It's been published today.

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Speaker 3: Prostitutes in Auckland have fewer STIs than other women in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather too for ce allan Drive full show

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Speaker 3: Lord do I need to warn that guy who texts

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Speaker 3: me about me thinking things are too commercial. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to read you out what our players got at the

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Speaker 3: auction for the hundred, which is that cricket league over

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Speaker 3: in the UK. So Finn Allen came in with the

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Speaker 3: top price for a Kiwi player. He's been bought by

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Speaker 3: the Trent Rockets for three hundred and sixty four thousand

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Speaker 3: New Zealand dollars. Well done. That's a nice pay packet

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Speaker 3: for playing in a twur and of ind A. Couldn't

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Speaker 3: mind that. Matt Henry also at the Rockets one hundreds

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Speaker 3: five one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That'll pay for

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Speaker 3: the two children. Tim Seifert the Manchester Super Giants two

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Speaker 3: two seven so two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Locky Ferguson is going to the Welsh Fire for the

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Speaker 3: same price two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. Trent

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Speaker 3: Bolt is going to m I London for two hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty seven thousand dollars. Adam Milne has gone to

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Speaker 3: the London Spirit one hundred and thirteen thousand dollars the

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Speaker 3: highest price. This is the thing I think is cool.

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Speaker 3: The highest price that anyone attracted was eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty eight thousand dollars and it was a twenty one

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Speaker 3: year old spinner who's completely uncapped.

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Speaker 21: James Coles, How good is that I gave up cricket

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Speaker 21: to early header? Me too, Yeah, exactly. You probably would

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Speaker 21: get me out, actually, grant you reckon, Yeah, yeah, what.

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Speaker 3: Are your's Your speciality?

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Speaker 21: Well, I was a league spin bowler, but before long

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Speaker 21: I stopped being able to spin the ball, so I

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Speaker 21: just became a slow, straight bowler, which is not.

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Speaker 3: That great, which doesn't want so and straight and on.

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Speaker 21: Once they work you out, it's oh, this one's slant straight, yeah, variety.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was more of a batsman, and I with the

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Speaker 3: baars ball approach was my speciality. Just go in and

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Speaker 3: smash that thing around exactly fair enough.

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Speaker 21: And in all honesty, I was probably a number eight

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Speaker 21: batsman that didn't bowl. So I was a fielder.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, but you know what John t taught us,

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Speaker 3: You can you can turn that into a craft.

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Speaker 21: Can absolutely mardened up to a Lubin's and some of

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Speaker 21: the great fielders as well. Anyway, need one of those

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Speaker 21: Cassie Henderson announcing her Lightning and the Star still playing

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Speaker 21: in christ Dutch in Auckland this April. Tickets go on

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Speaker 21: sale Monday the sixteenth. Oh, that's this Monday, Monday the sixteenth,

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Speaker 21: the March. So seconds to midnight will take us out either.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she's the key week bird, the kybird who's done

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Speaker 3: quite well for herself. Yeah, all right, and sounds a

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Speaker 3: little bit like Tata from time to time.

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Speaker 2: We'll help you do well.

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Speaker 3: I suppose I noticed you have no comment on it.

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Speaker 21: He's like, I don't know, I don't really know if

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Speaker 21: ye're pass the cricket.

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Speaker 3: Actually enjoy your weekend. Go the Wars, up the Wars

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Speaker 3: as the kid Sam, we'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Just saidstolate night.

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