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Speaker 2: Hello got New Zealand's Welcome to full show met Entyle

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Speaker 2: podcast number three oh one for Tuesday, the fifth of March. Geez,

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Speaker 2: you thought three hundred It was a lot yesterday. This

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Speaker 2: is now three hundred and one. Here we go next

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Speaker 2: major milestone five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Podcasts for us coming fast.

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Speaker 2: The show today took quite a turn with the VISEECTI

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Speaker 2: me chat certainly did.

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Speaker 3: There was some There was some.

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Speaker 2: Chat that may trouble the broadcasting standards of authority. I mean,

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Speaker 2: whilst you can say whatever you want on a podcast

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Speaker 2: broadcasting out to hundreds of thousands people across New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: May keep them busy for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Daz shared his story in a very frank and open

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Speaker 2: fashion and his vasecni me reversal, so look out for

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Speaker 2: that at the end of the show.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and finally also it was put to bed. There's

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Speaker 3: been strong rumors about a particular Gray District mayor in

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Speaker 3: the number of vasycta mes may or may not have

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Speaker 3: had and that was finally put to bed. So that

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Speaker 3: was good. Yeah, you'll get the answer by the end

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Speaker 3: of the show. Download, subscribe and give us a review.

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Speaker 3: And you seem busy, so we'll let.

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Speaker 2: You listen to the pod give them to give you

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Speaker 2: right you big stories, the leak issues, the big trends

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Speaker 2: and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The kids, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid Shudder

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Speaker 1: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: A very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Thursday show.

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Speaker 2: Really good as always to have your company. Hope you're

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Speaker 2: having a great day so far. Hey you, Matt, I.

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Speaker 3: Am very good. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, my headphones are broken again, the

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Speaker 2: historic headphones. They've just come back from the shop.

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Speaker 3: I've had these, They've been patched up on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the beautiful headphones. I know you love those goldies.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll battle through with one ear until the

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Speaker 2: next break. You know, the hardships we face in broadcasting.

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Speaker 3: It's tough, man, It's tough what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: I saw two things when I was driving to work

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Speaker 2: this morning that were dog related.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good and.

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Speaker 2: Both of them I found one I found very uplifting

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Speaker 2: and the other one I felt very curious.

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Speaker 2: I was driving past past a Porsche Cayenne through Mountain

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Speaker 2: said had a little sticker and it said say hello to.

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Speaker 3: Your dog from me. And I just thought, what a

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Speaker 3: nice thing to say. That is beautiful. That's a bubberstick er.

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Speaker 3: I can get behind your dog for me, I said.

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Speaker 3: I thought to myself, I definitely will say hello to.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: This is like, this is a smooth operation. Like folks,

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Speaker 3: I know you can't hear anything coming through, but this

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Speaker 3: is a quick exchange of some headphones going. Andrew's just

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Speaker 2: It's like a roadie, you know when a guitarist breaks

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Speaker 3: Professionally, very very quick. Andrew, thank you so much. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I did think to that Porsch Kayne driver, I thought,

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Speaker 3: It makes you happy. Poor drivers, they're good people. The

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Speaker 3: Right on to today's show. After three o'clock, we'll have

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Speaker 3: a chat about the zectomy reversal. Doctors in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: are reporting a big increase in requests for that procedure

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Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one. Auckland GP, who performs those reversals,

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Speaker 3: says they have seen many more men come through each year,

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Speaker 3: often those who pause family plans during stressful even early

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Speaker 2: We basically understand how the plumbing works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it costs around four grand, but many of

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Speaker 3: the higher end surgeries can cost up to twelve thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Success rate of up to ninety percent. How much is

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Speaker 2: So it's about seven hundred and fifty dollars to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the snip nice and cheap. The snap back

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Speaker 2: Well, Mayor Coxshawn, he's not the mayor anymore, but he

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Speaker 3: I don't know what a status is right now. I

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Speaker 2: Well, if your relationship breaks up so you've got a

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Speaker 2: you done it? You have you reconnected the plumber.

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Speaker 3: It's a big call to make looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. After two o'clock, a new report has

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Speaker 3: highlighted growing frustration among New Zealand homeowners who say their

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Speaker 3: solar systems aren't delivering the savings they expected. And in

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Speaker 3: said that they are seen higher than expected power bills

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Speaker 3: confusing import export readings on their systems. And again that

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Speaker 3: system drawing the grid power during full sunshine. So that's

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Speaker 3: get it installed in their home. Well, yeah, while.

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Speaker 2: you can be you'd come across as virtuous, and you

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Speaker 3: Yep, and go a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of years ago, me and Maureen got the solar power

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Speaker 2: and that makes us better than the rest of you blibs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Taking your calls after two o'clock if you've installed solar,

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Speaker 3: the Golden Visa. So starting tomorrow, amendments to the New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Overseas Investment Act will reopen the door and a

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Speaker 3: and active investor plus Golden Visa category, who must meet

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Speaker 3: the Overseas Investment Office, and Immigration Minister Erica Stanford reckons, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's quite a lot that you have to

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Speaker 2: I just heard the five million dollars and I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's a bigger Yeah, it's a lot of cash. It's

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Speaker 3: a lot of moula to pump into coming to New

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: There's that too hard because we want to have these

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not just the value of the direct

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so surely that is too arduous, right,

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Speaker 2: could we not whack it back down to I don't know,

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Speaker 2: three million dollars? If it was a three million dollars

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Speaker 2: or above house, that's not going to affect first home buyers,

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Speaker 2: is it. No, definitely in most parts of the country.

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Speaker 2: And maybe let's bring it down to three million dollar

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Speaker 2: investment or six million dollar investment.

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Speaker 3: I'm just making up these numbers as are too hard.

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Speaker 3: remember there was a massive outcry about foreigners coming in

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Speaker 3: Yes, so have we started to because collectively, which it's

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Speaker 2: Lower the threshold a little bit, then maybe you're getting

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Speaker 3: That'd be it is twenty past one. So from tomorrow

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Speaker 2: But as long as I've got the cash, they can

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Speaker 2: for an American and that roughly you've just got some loser.

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Speaker 2: They can only scratch together a million bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, net worth of two million. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, the visa holders must still pass a good character

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot they have to do.

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Speaker 2: And they have to spend twenty seven four hundred and

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Speaker 3: Who made that up? Yeah? Who made that?

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Speaker 2: It's like how much you get charged to get a

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Speaker 3: a good thing. They're not going to Wisport Tyler, why not?

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Speaker 2: Now, well, if they bought a house where I grow up,

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight past one. So from tomorrow wealthy individuals can

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Speaker 3: Does that need to be lowered more flexibility to get

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Speaker 2: and we have less children in poverty. That would be

436
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Speaker 2: the idea. That's why you try and grow the economy. Also,

437
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Speaker 2: it's important to remember that those child poverty stacks were

438
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Speaker 2: child hardship stats, not child poverty stats.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of the.

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Speaker 2: Countries around the world would look at what we consider

441
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Speaker 2: poverty and go that's pretty good. Yeah, spot on, and

442
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Speaker 2: that's something we should be proud of.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty. I'm just going

444
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Speaker 3: to say, you know, the old foreign buyer ban as

445
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Speaker 3: a whole came in under labor in twenty eighteen, and

446
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Speaker 3: National Loan sort of pushed back there, but they kept

447
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Speaker 3: it when they got into government, they kept it. But

448
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Speaker 3: I just thinking a lot of things have changed since

449
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Speaker 3: people were really worried about that in twenty eighteen. We're

450
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Speaker 3: now in a situation where the economy needs to grow

451
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Speaker 3: and we need to get back on our feet and recover.

452
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Speaker 3: Is that same sentiment out there? I would, you know,

453
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Speaker 3: put my hand up and say, what's the problem with

454
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Speaker 3: just removing the foreign buyer ban all together. I know

455
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people concerned about the housing market

456
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Speaker 3: and first home buyers and you've got to allow for

457
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Speaker 3: New Zealanders to have access to a house, But is

458
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Speaker 3: that really a problem we're facing right now? Is that

459
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Speaker 3: really a concern for a lot of people out there

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Speaker 3: that if you encourage people to come here and work

461
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Speaker 3: and allow them to buy a house and set up

462
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Speaker 3: a family and contribute. It was just this weird pushback

463
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Speaker 3: back in twenty eighteen, and it was you know, it

464
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Speaker 3: came down to Phil Dweford unfairly saying that all these

465
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Speaker 3: people were surnames that sounded Asian, we're buying these houses, yeah,

466
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Speaker 3: which was highly embarrassing. I mean, have we turned a

467
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Speaker 3: corner on that?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 3: What do you say our one hundred and eighty ten

470
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Speaker 3: eighty when it comes to foreigner is coming here to

471
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Speaker 3: buy houses overall? Are we a bit more welcoming and

472
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Speaker 3: are we changed our thinking that that can actually help

473
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Speaker 3: the country. Well, that that puts pay to this text

474
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Speaker 3: that said Tyler, you're a xenophobic. Proc there you go,

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Speaker 3: You're no, clearly yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the other ways that people, you know, someone are saying, well,

477
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Speaker 2: you know, we've got this golden visa pathway buying house

478
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Speaker 2: for five million dollars, investing ten million dollars and five

479
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Speaker 2: million dollars whatever it is, how or other migrants getting

480
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Speaker 2: into the country that have no ability to get a

481
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Speaker 2: golden visa with There's like skilled worker pathways. There's work

482
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Speaker 2: visas first, then residency if you've got at accredited work

483
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Speaker 2: employer work visa. There's the investor migrants is the one

484
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Speaker 2: that we're talking about here. Family sponsorship a New Zealand

485
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Speaker 2: citizen or a resident partner, a parent or dependent family

486
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Speaker 2: member in some cases that's a pathway. And there's also

487
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Speaker 2: the study pathway. International senates can move into post study

488
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Speaker 2: work visas, et cetera. So there's a number of ways

489
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Speaker 2: already obviously to get into this country.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that isn't this way.

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Speaker 2: So this is just another way that incentifies people that

492
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Speaker 2: are well off yep, and successful, you'd argue, So.

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Speaker 3: What do you say, do we need to have some

494
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Speaker 3: more flexibility with these wealthier individuals to come in and

495
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Speaker 3: make a life here in New Zealand or other settings?

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Speaker 3: About right in your eyes, shere you view O eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty as that number to call

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Speaker 3: nineteen nine two is a text headlines with railing coming up.

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517
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Speaker 2: You very much, Raylan, and we are talking about the

523
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Speaker 2: active investor Golden Visa.

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Speaker 3: It comes into play tomorrow. Does they need to be

525
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Speaker 3: more flexibility around that level which is five million dollars

526
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Speaker 3: then another five million invested at the minimum? Do we

527
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Speaker 3: need to be a little bit easier on wealthy individuals

528
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Speaker 3: to come to the country and start.

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Speaker 2: A life Texas says, but are they setting up new

530
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Speaker 2: businesses or are they buying already existing businesses.

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Speaker 3: Where there's two categories.

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Speaker 2: The minimum investment five million investment a period three years

533
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Speaker 2: must go into high risk investments such as venture capital,

534
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Speaker 2: private equity, direct investment into New Zealand companies or manage

535
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Speaker 2: growth funds. The minimum investment ten million dollars investment period

536
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Speaker 2: five years. That's about this is the balance category listed

537
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Speaker 2: chairs corporate bonds, property and developments, philanthropic investments and managed funds.

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Speaker 2: So maybe Josh, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, hey boys, Yeah, so we've gone and done it. Anyway,

540
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Speaker 12: we're leading the five million dollar folks in and I

541
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Speaker 12: suppose you know that it's going to be good for

542
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Speaker 12: companies to maintain staff levels for construction. That's one thing

543
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Speaker 12: we desperately need is a somewhat Yeah, we need industry

544
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Speaker 12: to be working, and you know, unfortunately, you know, we've

545
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Speaker 12: had people come and go already, and it's kind of like, well,

546
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Speaker 12: let's keep them here. If we want to keep them here,

547
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Speaker 12: we need to build something because we've got to keep

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Speaker 12: them busy working.

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Speaker 2: I see you're saying, because of course they don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: buy a house. They might build a house. And if

551
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Speaker 2: you build a house, you know you're hiring a lot

552
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Speaker 2: of people to work.

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Speaker 3: On that house. So that's great for a lot of

554
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Speaker 3: our our construction industry.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know, I had my

556
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Speaker 12: fingers crossed that we will target the people we need

557
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Speaker 12: for essential work that we need doing. And I'm not

558
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Speaker 12: too optimistic about non pay paying individuals. So individuals who

559
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Speaker 12: may not be in fact employed by anybody, but just

560
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Speaker 12: by the virtue of having decent money and capital, they

561
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Speaker 12: can buy their position. That's okay. I'm not neither here

562
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Speaker 12: nor there. But let's not saturate the country with vape

563
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Speaker 12: shops and liquor stores and takeaway outlets, because those are

564
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Speaker 12: non essential. So I'm really hoping there's people that are

565
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Speaker 12: coming can do something in those areas of essential need perhaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for your thoughts, Josh. Yeah, And I

567
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Speaker 3: think a lot of people would feel that way that

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Speaker 3: if you are bringing in wealthy individuals and they're investing

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Speaker 3: that sort of money. But the flip side as well

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Speaker 3: is that you're hoping some of those individuals are bringing

571
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Speaker 3: their expertise. They might be very very successful business people.

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Speaker 3: Set up shop here, Hellelujah, we'll take some of that

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Speaker 3: sweet sweek.

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Speaker 2: So you've got the growth category part, you know, Venture

575
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Speaker 2: capital PROVADYCA direct investment in New Zealand companies. I mean

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Speaker 2: do they look at it and they go, what what

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Speaker 2: is what are you going to invest in? Well, I'm

578
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Speaker 2: going to open ten vape shops. Do they go, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's not really the investment we're

580
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Speaker 2: looking for. Yeah, because they're you know that they have

581
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Speaker 2: to go through a bunch of stuff as well, on

582
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Speaker 2: top on top top of all of it, and there's

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Speaker 2: there's there's restrictions on where they're investment is.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can't.

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Speaker 2: Buy strategically important property and stuff, so there's quite a

586
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Speaker 2: few restrictions around it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you say, oh, e one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine

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Speaker 3: to nine two is the text, Joseph.

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Speaker 5: No, I want to say that unless an investor comes

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Speaker 5: in with some new ideas, a new way to do something,

592
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Speaker 5: or something to do something we're not doing, then all

593
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Speaker 5: you're doing is we're pouring money into the same production

594
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Speaker 5: and the same access, and that is inflationary. Not that

595
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Speaker 5: And I impose that's sort of the investment.

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Speaker 2: But you know you could look at it, can't you, Joseph,

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Speaker 2: that that's just an export dollar. So if five million

598
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Speaker 2: dollars comes from overseas, that's the same as selling five

599
00:28:17,973 --> 00:28:21,292
Speaker 2: million dollars worth of kiwi fruit, right, So that's how

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Speaker 2: that army works.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: No, because if you're looking about about finding investments, they

603
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Speaker 5: will want a profit, money to bake. They then take

604
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Speaker 5: back overseas and they will only be here. They said

605
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Speaker 5: they can get more money out and they poured into it.

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Speaker 5: That would be a net drain on the country.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they're moving here and they've built a five

608
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Speaker 2: million dollar house, I'm in the argument would be that

609
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Speaker 2: they are going to live here and set up with

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Speaker 2: their family here, kids are going to school that that

611
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Speaker 2: kind of thing, and then you would hope it probably

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Speaker 2: there'll probably be situations where that plays out, as you say,

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Speaker 2: but you would hope the majority would be making a

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Speaker 2: life here.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you have a lott that there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of investments category that you read out. Nothing in that

618
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Speaker 5: was going to add ford action. You're just looking about

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Speaker 5: putting money to existing investments.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean venture call that venture capital.

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Speaker 2: If you if you, if you, if you come in

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Speaker 2: and you're investing money venture capital money in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: then you might accelerate the development of a company that

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Speaker 2: becomes fantastic in New Zealand. Right, venture capital surely where

625
00:29:22,573 --> 00:29:27,853
Speaker 2: men were low on venture capital in this country, but that.

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Speaker 5: Foreign investment wasn't restricted to venture capital.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying that's an example them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so venture capital, private equity, direct investments into New

629
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Speaker 2: Zealand companies, manage growth funds, listed shares, corporate bonds, property developments,

630
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Speaker 2: philanthropic investments and managed funds.

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Speaker 5: It's none of that. It's out will improve production.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, I hear what you're saying about

633
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Speaker 3: the risk of capital flight, but I I tend to

634
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Speaker 3: agree that you'd hope most of those people, that's always

635
00:29:59,013 --> 00:30:00,693
Speaker 3: going to be a risk that they bring their ten

636
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Speaker 3: million dollars in for a safe investment and they see

637
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Speaker 3: at the time that they have to for that visa,

638
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Speaker 3: then they take their money out and take it back

639
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Speaker 3: to to where they came from. But see, I think

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Speaker 3: there's still I mean, even if you get say sixty

641
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Speaker 3: percent of those people coming in on that visa, who

642
00:30:16,933 --> 00:30:19,173
Speaker 3: do set up shop here and decide New Zealand as

643
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Speaker 3: a wonderful place, of course it is, and then start

644
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Speaker 3: building businesses, that's still a worthwhile investment, isn't it, Joseph?

645
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Speaker 3: That would be.

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Speaker 5: But you're talking about a hope you don't know, And

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Speaker 5: I think what you need to do is have a

648
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Speaker 5: look what did they do and where did that come from?

649
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Speaker 5: Have they been involved in some sort of juventus beforehand? Yes,

650
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Speaker 5: sure they will be bad yere, but did you see

651
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Speaker 5: what they're doing is beating money crowns.

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Speaker 2: Well, part of the twenty seven, four hundred and fifty

653
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Speaker 2: dollars processing fee does involve a full investigation of their

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Speaker 2: lives and they have to pass the good character test.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about I mean, I don't exactly

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Speaker 2: know what a good character test sounds pretty vague to me.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I nor do I I don't want to. And

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Speaker 5: for the one hundred and fifty dollars, what sort of

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Speaker 5: an investigat going to get if you're talking about a

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Speaker 5: professional I'll count it or something. Talk about an hour.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven hundred and seventy is the processing fee twenty seven?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, but that's a bit it's milking it, you know.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question. That's a good question to ask.

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Speaker 5: What was the avestigations tale and a good character?

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Speaker 3: Would we pass a good character test?

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Speaker 14: Can we?

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Speaker 2: You've had a bad Yeah, support me and make way

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Speaker 2: for someone with ten million dollars bad character. Hey, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Joseph appreciate it. Very interesting. So taking your views on

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty, do you agree with

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Speaker 3: Joseph that this could be used as a bit of

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Speaker 3: an avenue to invest for a short time and then

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Speaker 3: capital flights or do we need to relax the wall rules?

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Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, we are going to have

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Speaker 3: a chap with Anthony morson Cough. He is for Forbes

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Speaker 3: Global Global real estate agent, and he is going to

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Speaker 3: break all down for us, it is sixteen.

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Speaker 1: To two, the issues that affect you and a bit

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Speaker 1: of fun along the way. Matt Afternoons with Skoda plays

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Speaker 1: good codes every day at skoter dot co dot Nz

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Speaker 1: News talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be so from tomorrow, Active and Vesta Plus visa

685
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Speaker 3: holders will be able to build or buy home's worth

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Speaker 3: at least five million dollars in New Zealand. Anthony Morrison

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Speaker 3: cough is with Forbes Global real Estate and joins us

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Speaker 3: on the line. Now, Anthony, very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 15: Good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: How are you very good?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about this five million dollar threshold?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's about right? Should be less, should

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Speaker 2: be more?

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Speaker 15: I think it could be a bit less. The reason

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Speaker 15: for that is that we'd like to see the money

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Speaker 15: spreads around New Zealand's that's coming into the country, and

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Speaker 15: there's very significant amountcoming and I think places like the

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Speaker 15: Hawks Bay or Northland or the Wire Rapper or christ Church,

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Speaker 15: the flow is not going there at the moment, is

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Speaker 15: going mainly to QUEENSWND and you're we're seeing a lot

701
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Speaker 15: of money going there and that's the main interest for

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Speaker 15: the investors and see in the second place would be

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Speaker 15: Auckland and be nice if the rest of the country

704
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Speaker 15: could be involved with that as well.

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Speaker 3: So we would you prefer if it was regionally marked.

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Speaker 2: So Auckland stays at a high rate, Queens down around

707
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Speaker 2: there stays at a high rate. But Northland, as you say,

708
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Speaker 2: is like three million or something, so it's regionally adjusted.

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Speaker 15: I totally agree with it. It's like in Northland they

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Speaker 15: could use, you know, an area where that could use

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Speaker 15: a lot of employment which this wealth would bring. And

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Speaker 15: that if they can't live there because they kind of

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Speaker 15: buy a house at five million and there's only very

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Speaker 15: limited stock in Northland at that price range, well they're

715
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Speaker 15: going to go to Queens sound right. In Northland it's

716
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Speaker 15: just as beautiful as what Queen's it's only a lot

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Speaker 15: more affordable. So getting that wealth to go into different

718
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Speaker 15: areas in New Zealand would benefit every New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: What about though, within Auckland, say you take Auckland, you've

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Speaker 2: got areas like Remuerra or understand there's one thousand plus

721
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Speaker 2: properties that are worth over five million dollars, but West

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Speaker 2: Aalkland's very different. South Auckland's very different. Would you zero

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Speaker 2: in that much that you suburb.

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Speaker 15: No, I think there's enough choice in Auckland and the

725
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Speaker 15: Maine suburbs, and I think that that sort of wealth

726
00:34:38,173 --> 00:34:42,933
Speaker 15: will be looking at the main suburbs anyway. Yeah, it

727
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Speaker 15: will be very I think technically very difficult to sort

728
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Speaker 15: of say if you're in this part of Auckland or

729
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Speaker 15: in that part of Auckland, and why that makes it hard.

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Speaker 15: I think it should be kept simple. People know, you

731
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Speaker 15: want to go to Auckland's five million, if you go

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Speaker 15: into Northland it's three million or something like that. I

733
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Speaker 15: think would make it make it really really attractive for

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Speaker 15: those regions.

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Speaker 3: The government Anthony predicts a around one hundred, one hundred

736
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Speaker 3: and fifty will take up this Golden visa in the

737
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Speaker 3: first year. Do you think those numbers are about right?

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Speaker 16: Yep.

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Speaker 15: The response I'm getting and I'm talking to straight to

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Speaker 15: offices in Hamburg and Germany, Amsterdam, Switzerland, in Geneva and

741
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Speaker 15: those are our offices Monaco, those places I'm getting direct feedback.

742
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Speaker 15: I'm dealing with family officers over there, and the Welt

743
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Speaker 15: texts coming into Holland where investors are in. Those in

744
00:35:43,013 --> 00:35:45,613
Speaker 15: that country are looking to move out as fast as

745
00:35:45,653 --> 00:35:49,893
Speaker 15: they Can Germany, similar things are happening. They are absolutely

746
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Speaker 15: for security reasons as well, looking to move out. So

747
00:35:52,813 --> 00:35:55,773
Speaker 15: there's a big exodus in those countries, not only to

748
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Speaker 15: New Zealand but also to other safe habits. But New

749
00:35:59,613 --> 00:36:02,652
Speaker 15: Zealand is pretty much in the picture there. So I'm

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Speaker 15: pretty confident that we can get those numbers and even

751
00:36:05,493 --> 00:36:09,493
Speaker 15: higher into New Zealand and dealing person with a large

752
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Speaker 15: amount of wealth coming out of those countries. Also out

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Speaker 15: of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Are they looking at bolt holes so buying a property

755
00:36:17,413 --> 00:36:20,732
Speaker 2: in Queenstown if the worst happens, get on a jet

756
00:36:20,773 --> 00:36:23,053
Speaker 2: and get over here. Or are they looking to move

757
00:36:23,173 --> 00:36:26,933
Speaker 2: families here and start a life here, Anthony, In your experience.

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Speaker 15: I think it's more about moving a life here. It's

759
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Speaker 15: about being involved in New Zealand society. There was what's

760
00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:40,013
Speaker 15: happening in Europe. They've got big immigration problems, they've got

761
00:36:40,013 --> 00:36:43,493
Speaker 15: big security problems, and they've got tax problems over there.

762
00:36:43,893 --> 00:36:48,093
Speaker 15: In New Zealand looks like paradise to them, and that's

763
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Speaker 15: the reason why they want to come here, and I

764
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Speaker 15: think we can.

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Speaker 3: All benefit from that. Ye really interesting, Anthony, Thank you

766
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Speaker 3: very much for your time. Appreciate your insights and we'll

767
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Speaker 3: catch up again soon. That is Anthony Mowson Gough with

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Speaker 3: Forbes Global real Estate beg very shortly. It is eight

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 1: Mattis Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty's

771
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News DOGSB.

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Speaker 3: NEWB It is five to two. A few texts coming

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Speaker 3: through on nine two nine two.

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Speaker 2: The TEXTUS says, hey guys, yes, I do have a

775
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Speaker 2: problem with reducing the house price from five million to

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Speaker 2: two million, as there is a shed load of houses

777
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Speaker 2: in Auckland that costs two million, and I'm a national voter.

778
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Speaker 2: I think three million to three point five million would

779
00:37:28,773 --> 00:37:31,293
Speaker 2: be more appropriate amount as a starting point for Auckland,

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Speaker 2: at least chairs for that Andrew, I currently work in

781
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Speaker 2: real estate industry and I think a five million dollar

782
00:37:36,253 --> 00:37:38,533
Speaker 2: buyer is probably not going to actively work in New

783
00:37:38,613 --> 00:37:40,333
Speaker 2: Zealand or need to work in New Zealand. I think

784
00:37:40,373 --> 00:37:43,453
Speaker 2: someone from two million might get people investing and working

785
00:37:43,453 --> 00:37:46,093
Speaker 2: and generate tax for the government. The biggest risk I

786
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:49,292
Speaker 2: see is that they start buying income producing assets, which

787
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:52,253
Speaker 2: have already happened in a few industries. For example, kiwi

788
00:37:52,253 --> 00:37:56,373
Speaker 2: fruit orchards. There are some rules about agriculture in these.

789
00:37:57,213 --> 00:37:59,693
Speaker 2: Can't believe how many people are so thick when it

790
00:37:59,693 --> 00:38:03,493
Speaker 2: comes to overseas investment. This country needs this to grow

791
00:38:03,653 --> 00:38:06,813
Speaker 2: and keep the country building. Yeah, that's on the person

792
00:38:06,853 --> 00:38:09,173
Speaker 2: that text that we should make sure we've got zero

793
00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:11,813
Speaker 2: child poverty before we bring anyone into the country because

794
00:38:11,813 --> 00:38:13,253
Speaker 2: we can't afford to pay for the people we have.

795
00:38:13,373 --> 00:38:15,973
Speaker 2: Not understanding that the idea of this is to try

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00:38:16,013 --> 00:38:19,573
Speaker 2: and grow the economy such we can support more people

797
00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:23,773
Speaker 2: and we have no less people living in hardship. That's

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00:38:23,813 --> 00:38:27,692
Speaker 2: the idea. This person says, all very well, but where

799
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:31,252
Speaker 2: are they going to crap our sewers don't work?

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Speaker 3: Yes, good point. Yeah, it's a good point. Stay built

801
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Speaker 3: a toilet as well in the run zero system.

802
00:38:36,333 --> 00:38:39,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wellington, it's not great, but more money coming into

803
00:38:39,653 --> 00:38:42,573
Speaker 2: the country means more money, so hopefully fix some of

804
00:38:42,613 --> 00:38:43,973
Speaker 2: our infrastructure as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who called.

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Speaker 3: Add text comes into effect tomorrow, so we will see

807
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Speaker 3: how that. Unfoult's coming up. After two o'clock, we want

808
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Speaker 3: to talk about solar. A growing number of people frustrated

809
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Speaker 3: with how poorly their solar systems are working. So if

810
00:38:59,173 --> 00:39:00,973
Speaker 3: you've got solar, how is it working for you? O

811
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

812
00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,613
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text? New Sport and

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Speaker 3: Weather is coming.

814
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Speaker 1: Up next, the big stories, the big issues, the big

815
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Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon squ Schoder News Talk said the.

817
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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show six

818
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Speaker 3: pass two and just a reminder, our mates at Scoder

819
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Speaker 3: could be sending you and a friend to the tour

820
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Speaker 3: to France when you play Scoder Coach. If you do

821
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Speaker 3: need some help with today's clue, just keep listening. We'll

822
00:39:36,573 --> 00:39:39,772
Speaker 3: have a clue for you in about.

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Speaker 2: Forty five minutes, but make sure you're listening because that

824
00:39:42,733 --> 00:39:46,453
Speaker 2: is a fantastic prize, a trip for you and a

825
00:39:46,493 --> 00:39:48,772
Speaker 2: friend of the tour to France when you play scot Coach.

826
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Speaker 3: So that's coming up very soon. But in the meantime,

827
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Speaker 3: we want to discuss solar across New Zealand. A grown

828
00:39:54,013 --> 00:39:56,573
Speaker 3: number of homeowners of finding that there's solar and battery

829
00:39:56,613 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 3: systems aren't saving as much money as expected. With some

830
00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:03,733
Speaker 3: systems even drawing electricity from the grid on bright sunny days.

831
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Speaker 3: Couple of cases included Greg Rimmer Hollyman near Nelson, whose

832
00:40:07,573 --> 00:40:11,373
Speaker 3: systems show only seven to eight killer what's been imported

833
00:40:11,413 --> 00:40:13,973
Speaker 3: despite running on solar, and Trish Beard and christ Church

834
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Speaker 3: who's thirty thousand dollars twenty eight panels system repeatedly failed

835
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Speaker 3: to supply power at all the Utility is Complaints Commissioner.

836
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Speaker 3: I didn't know this guy existed, but he's reported a

837
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Speaker 3: ninety seven percent increase in solar related complaints over the

838
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:32,613
Speaker 3: past year. So is solar that's cracked.

839
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Speaker 6: Up to be?

840
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I know a few people that you know where they

842
00:40:38,013 --> 00:40:40,773
Speaker 2: installed solar. They kind of had this attitude that they

843
00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:43,533
Speaker 2: were better than me, smugly talking about how it all worked,

844
00:40:43,573 --> 00:40:45,653
Speaker 2: and it's plugged in and showing the app and showing

845
00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:48,173
Speaker 2: the power going this way and that, and then slowly

846
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,053
Speaker 2: over time.

847
00:40:50,613 --> 00:40:52,573
Speaker 3: They fall out of love with it.

848
00:40:53,373 --> 00:40:55,453
Speaker 2: This is what I've noticed, And this is anecdotal, so

849
00:40:55,493 --> 00:40:57,173
Speaker 2: it can't be across the country, and these are just

850
00:40:57,213 --> 00:41:00,613
Speaker 2: some examples of it. Yes, but it is a major investment.

851
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:07,773
Speaker 2: It's sometimes surely pays off incredibly right, Yeah, Yeah, but

852
00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:11,293
Speaker 2: more and more, we're hearing these stories of it not

853
00:41:11,373 --> 00:41:13,013
Speaker 2: working out exactly as people thought.

854
00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:14,853
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of information out there and it

855
00:41:14,853 --> 00:41:16,933
Speaker 3: seems to be Sola has been talked up at length

856
00:41:16,973 --> 00:41:18,533
Speaker 3: over the past couple of years, and a lot of

857
00:41:18,573 --> 00:41:20,373
Speaker 3: these claims saying you've got to get sold if you don't,

858
00:41:20,413 --> 00:41:22,413
Speaker 3: if you don't have solar, you're an idiot, and you

859
00:41:22,453 --> 00:41:25,172
Speaker 3: throw money down the drain. But more and more if

860
00:41:25,173 --> 00:41:27,533
Speaker 3: you're spending thirty thousand dollars on a solar system, and

861
00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:29,933
Speaker 3: then you hear about the panels that start falling apart

862
00:41:29,973 --> 00:41:33,093
Speaker 3: after twenty years, the lichen, the lichen, and then the

863
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:36,172
Speaker 3: batteries as well, that you've got to buy on top

864
00:41:36,213 --> 00:41:39,773
Speaker 3: of the panels. Yeah, and they don't last forever. Yeah.

865
00:41:39,813 --> 00:41:42,133
Speaker 2: I mean when you first get a solar system, what

866
00:41:42,293 --> 00:41:46,053
Speaker 2: really goes up is what the solar system really generates

867
00:41:46,173 --> 00:41:50,053
Speaker 2: is powerful sense of smugness and the powerful need to

868
00:41:50,053 --> 00:41:53,453
Speaker 2: bring it up at and every conversation that you're involved in.

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00:41:53,693 --> 00:41:55,812
Speaker 2: The powers that for a while. But then I find

870
00:41:55,853 --> 00:41:59,453
Speaker 2: those levels of smugness tend to drift off over a while,

871
00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:03,453
Speaker 2: about at about the same rate as the battery starts

872
00:42:03,533 --> 00:42:06,093
Speaker 2: not generating and holding power as long as you'd.

873
00:42:05,933 --> 00:42:08,253
Speaker 3: Hope starts to erode pretty fast. Yeah, but what are

874
00:42:08,293 --> 00:42:08,692
Speaker 3: you you say?

875
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:11,453
Speaker 2: Initial smugness levels are through the roof, so if you

876
00:42:11,453 --> 00:42:13,373
Speaker 2: could track those on the app, yeah, I'll just be

877
00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:15,813
Speaker 2: peaking the whole time. You're putting smugness back into the grid.

878
00:42:17,293 --> 00:42:19,453
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

879
00:42:19,453 --> 00:42:21,493
Speaker 3: to call. So if you've got solar or you've looked

880
00:42:21,493 --> 00:42:23,933
Speaker 3: at it, did you decide that maybe it was too

881
00:42:23,973 --> 00:42:26,213
Speaker 3: pricey and it wasn't worth it even for that boost

882
00:42:26,213 --> 00:42:28,973
Speaker 3: and smugness? And nine two ninety two is the text?

883
00:42:29,053 --> 00:42:30,773
Speaker 3: Or is it working a treat for you? Is it

884
00:42:30,853 --> 00:42:33,533
Speaker 3: genuinely saving you a lot of money? Oh, eight hundred

885
00:42:33,613 --> 00:42:35,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

886
00:42:35,173 --> 00:42:39,013
Speaker 2: The only solar I'm running at the moment is my

887
00:42:39,013 --> 00:42:43,373
Speaker 2: my remote control for my Samsung frame right, just a

888
00:42:43,373 --> 00:42:44,933
Speaker 2: little it's got a little solar panel on the back.

889
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:46,693
Speaker 3: You've got a solar panel on it. You never have

890
00:42:46,693 --> 00:42:48,813
Speaker 3: to change the batteries. They think of everything, don't they? Yeah,

891
00:42:48,853 --> 00:42:51,093
Speaker 3: how good it is? Stylish? Back in the moment is

892
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:53,933
Speaker 3: ten past two.

893
00:42:53,373 --> 00:42:57,573
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

894
00:42:57,773 --> 00:43:00,853
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk said, be.

895
00:43:03,133 --> 00:43:05,973
Speaker 3: Twelve past two. So we're talking about solar. A lot

896
00:43:06,173 --> 00:43:08,253
Speaker 3: of people around the country seem to be you have

897
00:43:08,493 --> 00:43:11,292
Speaker 3: problems with their new solar systems not quite as good

898
00:43:11,613 --> 00:43:14,973
Speaker 3: as they were purported to be. Are you having similar issues.

899
00:43:14,733 --> 00:43:16,533
Speaker 2: This Texas is Man, If you go to a dinner

900
00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:20,493
Speaker 2: party with a vegan across fitter who has solar, what

901
00:43:20,573 --> 00:43:21,373
Speaker 2: do you think they talk about?

902
00:43:21,413 --> 00:43:24,493
Speaker 3: First? It's a good question. What if they've run a marathon? Yeah,

903
00:43:24,533 --> 00:43:26,013
Speaker 3: the listener as well, all my.

904
00:43:25,973 --> 00:43:28,293
Speaker 2: Friends since I ran a marathon, all my friends are

905
00:43:28,333 --> 00:43:31,213
Speaker 2: just as soon as I talk anythink like he's going

906
00:43:31,213 --> 00:43:31,973
Speaker 2: to bring up the marathon.

907
00:43:32,533 --> 00:43:34,053
Speaker 3: He's going to bring up a marathon. Yeah.

908
00:43:34,173 --> 00:43:38,253
Speaker 2: So a vegan cross fitter who has solar and has

909
00:43:38,293 --> 00:43:40,533
Speaker 2: run a marathon, it's going to be the solar.

910
00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:42,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be the solar. And then because

911
00:43:42,253 --> 00:43:44,093
Speaker 3: you're out to dinner, they'll talk about their vegan meal.

912
00:43:44,413 --> 00:43:45,692
Speaker 3: You know, if you're out of beating meat, if.

913
00:43:45,653 --> 00:43:48,053
Speaker 2: You're out with someone that's installed solar, you go over

914
00:43:48,133 --> 00:43:51,013
Speaker 2: to turn on a light and boom.

915
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:55,933
Speaker 3: They are away. Janet, Welcome to the show. Hi, Hello,

916
00:43:56,053 --> 00:43:58,933
Speaker 3: nice to chat with you. So you've installed solar six

917
00:43:59,013 --> 00:44:01,453
Speaker 3: years ago, Yes, yes, we.

918
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:06,013
Speaker 14: Did, and I think we've got ten panels. There's just

919
00:44:06,173 --> 00:44:08,293
Speaker 14: two adults now. They were three adults from the house.

920
00:44:08,933 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 14: But from the start we were saving at least one

921
00:44:11,093 --> 00:44:15,652
Speaker 14: hundred dollars a month. And we don't have a battery though,

922
00:44:16,493 --> 00:44:19,813
Speaker 14: so they just do a buyback for all the any

923
00:44:19,853 --> 00:44:22,573
Speaker 14: that we generate and don't use, and that's just double

924
00:44:22,693 --> 00:44:26,333
Speaker 14: their rate. Their buy back rate is just doubled as

925
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:28,293
Speaker 14: of this last month, I think. So I haven't had

926
00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:32,213
Speaker 14: a bill to show me what that is, but yeah,

927
00:44:32,333 --> 00:44:34,373
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, sure. You get excited about it when

928
00:44:34,373 --> 00:44:36,933
Speaker 14: you first have it put up because it's like that

929
00:44:37,093 --> 00:44:41,133
Speaker 14: is quite an investment, and but then you fulfill it's

930
00:44:41,133 --> 00:44:44,053
Speaker 14: actually up there until you get your power bill in

931
00:44:44,093 --> 00:44:46,093
Speaker 14: it and you go, oh that's nice.

932
00:44:46,493 --> 00:44:48,413
Speaker 2: What part of the country do you live in, Jenet.

933
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:52,692
Speaker 3: Hawk's Bay, right, Yeah, yeah it is yep.

934
00:44:54,573 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 14: You get a lot of sunshine.

935
00:44:58,693 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, people I meet from Duneda and with the sky

936
00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:05,213
Speaker 2: spending most of its time about a meter above your head.

937
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:10,652
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, I know, but that's okay, we'll take it.

938
00:45:10,693 --> 00:45:11,733
Speaker 5: Okay, do you get it?

939
00:45:11,813 --> 00:45:12,253
Speaker 13: Good for you?

940
00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:14,253
Speaker 3: Do you get a bit obsessed with it? Those stall Janet,

941
00:45:14,333 --> 00:45:15,893
Speaker 3: You know that you're looking at the numbers and you're

942
00:45:15,933 --> 00:45:16,973
Speaker 3: reading the Killer Watson.

943
00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:21,013
Speaker 17: No, not never, right, haven't.

944
00:45:20,733 --> 00:45:24,652
Speaker 14: Even got the app on my new phone. It just

945
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:26,093
Speaker 14: set Sarah does its job.

946
00:45:27,653 --> 00:45:29,013
Speaker 2: Do you ever do the calculations?

947
00:45:29,053 --> 00:45:29,252
Speaker 10: Though?

948
00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:31,733
Speaker 2: Do you do the calculations on your bill? When it

949
00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:32,133
Speaker 2: comes in?

950
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:34,732
Speaker 8: I look at it and.

951
00:45:34,693 --> 00:45:38,413
Speaker 14: I look at what the buyback is, and still I

952
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:41,893
Speaker 14: notice how much less it is. I mean, six years ago,

953
00:45:42,093 --> 00:45:45,493
Speaker 14: we were paying probably about one fifty one sixty a

954
00:45:45,533 --> 00:45:49,573
Speaker 14: month at least in summer, probably a bit more in winter,

955
00:45:49,693 --> 00:45:54,053
Speaker 14: about two fifty two sixty. And it never hits two

956
00:45:54,173 --> 00:45:58,253
Speaker 14: hundred and winter. But we're lucky. We work from home,

957
00:45:58,573 --> 00:46:00,573
Speaker 14: and we're at home all day, so all the electrical

958
00:46:00,613 --> 00:46:04,133
Speaker 14: gliances go on during the day, you know, and that

959
00:46:04,253 --> 00:46:06,212
Speaker 14: kind of thing. I mean, we're not obsessive about it.

960
00:46:06,613 --> 00:46:07,133
Speaker 5: What about what.

961
00:46:07,093 --> 00:46:09,093
Speaker 3: About when you go out, Janet? Quickly? Do you bring

962
00:46:09,093 --> 00:46:10,853
Speaker 3: it up at dinner parties? Around it? People that don't

963
00:46:10,853 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 3: have solo never can never? All right, Yeah, well.

964
00:46:14,293 --> 00:46:16,293
Speaker 2: You're the best of us, Janet, Yeah, appreciate it.

965
00:46:17,093 --> 00:46:18,933
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll go out, We'll go out for dinner. And

966
00:46:18,933 --> 00:46:21,533
Speaker 3: we'll test that good on your Jenet. Thanks you very much,

967
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:24,652
Speaker 3: thanks for calling Janet. You have a great afternoon. One

968
00:46:24,773 --> 00:46:28,213
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. You like Janet that you install it,

969
00:46:28,293 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 3: you never talk about it, and you just take the savings.

970
00:46:31,053 --> 00:46:33,693
Speaker 3: You're a great New Zealander if that's the case. Nineteen

971
00:46:33,773 --> 00:46:36,813
Speaker 3: nine to is the text, Graham, how are you mate?

972
00:46:37,853 --> 00:46:38,093
Speaker 5: Good?

973
00:46:38,093 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 13: Guys?

974
00:46:38,413 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 5: How are you good?

975
00:46:39,893 --> 00:46:45,813
Speaker 13: I'm about four years into the smug and meter and.

976
00:46:44,813 --> 00:46:46,693
Speaker 2: Still running strong, still peaking.

977
00:46:47,333 --> 00:46:53,813
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, no overturns. I think Matt's initial commentary is correct.

978
00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:55,773
Speaker 13: You do get a bit of test in the first

979
00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:59,973
Speaker 13: period looking at things, and you know, we were we

980
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:04,133
Speaker 13: decided to buy good quality equipment, and I think that's

981
00:47:04,213 --> 00:47:07,453
Speaker 13: part of a issue because I'm genuinely surprised that their

982
00:47:07,653 --> 00:47:10,493
Speaker 13: issues because that's pretty regulated. You've got to have an

983
00:47:10,493 --> 00:47:13,813
Speaker 13: independent person who's got to come in and sign off

984
00:47:13,853 --> 00:47:18,692
Speaker 13: on the hardware before it gets activated on the grid.

985
00:47:19,093 --> 00:47:22,053
Speaker 13: So I'm a little surprised that there have been problems.

986
00:47:22,653 --> 00:47:26,212
Speaker 13: And generally over the four year period, over the whole time,

987
00:47:26,253 --> 00:47:29,413
Speaker 13: it's about sixty two percent of our energy needs have

988
00:47:29,453 --> 00:47:30,733
Speaker 13: been taken out by solar.

989
00:47:31,493 --> 00:47:36,333
Speaker 3: And you're christ Church christ Church. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

990
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:39,453
Speaker 3: get a decent amount of sunning. Yeah, you know, regular

991
00:47:39,453 --> 00:47:41,692
Speaker 3: clear Skys and christ Yeah yeah.

992
00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:44,453
Speaker 13: But trust me, I've got a household full of young

993
00:47:44,533 --> 00:47:48,493
Speaker 13: nuts and they love energy and using every form of

994
00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:53,773
Speaker 13: electricity module known to man. So so I'm pretty comfortable.

995
00:47:53,933 --> 00:47:56,853
Speaker 2: So would you say that the key to successful solar

996
00:47:57,213 --> 00:48:01,773
Speaker 2: is a sensible investment at the start and research and

997
00:48:01,813 --> 00:48:04,733
Speaker 2: make sure that you're getting you know, the best quality equipment.

998
00:48:04,813 --> 00:48:05,573
Speaker 3: Is that the secret?

999
00:48:05,813 --> 00:48:08,692
Speaker 13: Yeah? Yeah, Look, I think that's a really good and now, Gene,

1000
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:12,453
Speaker 13: I think you've got to have a battery. Ultimately, what

1001
00:48:12,853 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 13: we got very good at doing was is that we

1002
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:18,453
Speaker 13: did everything we needed to do with high energy consumption

1003
00:48:18,573 --> 00:48:20,733
Speaker 13: during the day and the house would run on the

1004
00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:21,653
Speaker 13: battery overnight.

1005
00:48:23,213 --> 00:48:25,413
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like it's working out pretty well for you, Graham,

1006
00:48:25,453 --> 00:48:27,533
Speaker 3: So I take it a winter because it's good good

1007
00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:29,453
Speaker 3: in summer with the sun. It's a little bit a

1008
00:48:29,493 --> 00:48:32,613
Speaker 3: little bit iffy in winter. So that's just the price

1009
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:34,173
Speaker 3: you pay, right, that's part of your calculations.

1010
00:48:34,253 --> 00:48:36,533
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, yeah, and look, and I think the buyback

1011
00:48:36,613 --> 00:48:39,652
Speaker 13: that previous caller spoke to, generally we find we've got

1012
00:48:39,773 --> 00:48:42,053
Speaker 13: enough credits to sit us through for three months of

1013
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:44,573
Speaker 13: winter before it actually starts to cost us.

1014
00:48:44,453 --> 00:48:47,253
Speaker 3: A dollar Not bad, not bad, Graham, thank you very

1015
00:48:47,293 --> 00:48:48,652
Speaker 3: much for giving us a buzz and good to hear

1016
00:48:48,693 --> 00:48:51,692
Speaker 3: the smug returns us all paying off as well. Oh

1017
00:48:51,693 --> 00:48:54,253
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1018
00:48:54,333 --> 00:48:56,893
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text if you're running

1019
00:48:56,893 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 3: a solo operation. Has it been all that it was

1020
00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:01,213
Speaker 3: cracked up to be? Is it working a treat for you?

1021
00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:03,853
Speaker 3: Or was it a bit of a mistake to install it?

1022
00:49:03,973 --> 00:49:05,853
Speaker 3: Can you get your thoughts.

1023
00:49:05,573 --> 00:49:08,732
Speaker 2: As christ it's a windy place. There's the famous what's

1024
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:10,373
Speaker 2: the wind called? That makes even go mental?

1025
00:49:10,493 --> 00:49:14,333
Speaker 3: Was that there's something noisily noisterly? Yeah? Yeah? But is

1026
00:49:14,373 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 3: there there a bit of win?

1027
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:18,253
Speaker 2: Can you have up a some kind of you know

1028
00:49:18,533 --> 00:49:20,732
Speaker 2: wind turbine and Christy how yeah?

1029
00:49:20,733 --> 00:49:23,333
Speaker 3: On the east? Yeah? Yeah, that wind when she picks

1030
00:49:23,413 --> 00:49:26,613
Speaker 3: up wooh. Yeah. We had a we what do you

1031
00:49:26,653 --> 00:49:28,933
Speaker 3: call it? Glasshouse out the back. They got taken out

1032
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:31,333
Speaker 3: in the first month, right, yeah, smashed the pieces, So

1033
00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:33,813
Speaker 3: I should have put up a wee we win far yeah,

1034
00:49:33,853 --> 00:49:34,813
Speaker 3: they would have done the tree.

1035
00:49:34,973 --> 00:49:37,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean how windy has it been in

1036
00:49:37,093 --> 00:49:41,733
Speaker 2: Auckland this this winter. Yeah, yeh off summer summer. Oh

1037
00:49:41,773 --> 00:49:44,413
Speaker 2: my goodness, I just described our summer as a winter.

1038
00:49:44,493 --> 00:49:46,173
Speaker 3: It felt like one in the last couple of days.

1039
00:49:46,253 --> 00:49:48,413
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1040
00:49:48,453 --> 00:49:50,493
Speaker 3: It is nineteen past two. Back in a sec.

1041
00:49:54,173 --> 00:49:57,853
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1042
00:49:57,893 --> 00:49:59,653
Speaker 1: ten eighty on us talks EDB.

1043
00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:04,453
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. We are talking about SOLAS setups. An

1044
00:50:04,533 --> 00:50:06,733
Speaker 3: article today saying a lot of people are having problems

1045
00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:09,173
Speaker 3: with their SOLAS set up, that the promises made haven't

1046
00:50:09,213 --> 00:50:11,292
Speaker 3: come to fruition. Is that your Is it working?

1047
00:50:11,333 --> 00:50:11,493
Speaker 6: Well?

1048
00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:13,613
Speaker 2: See, I've got to excuse talking about christ Church because

1049
00:50:13,613 --> 00:50:15,333
Speaker 2: I've never lived there. A big fan of the city,

1050
00:50:15,373 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 2: go there a lot, but I've never lived there. Beautiful

1051
00:50:17,853 --> 00:50:21,172
Speaker 2: and I said, is it the northwester that drove Hang

1052
00:50:21,253 --> 00:50:21,893
Speaker 2: a minute.

1053
00:50:21,813 --> 00:50:23,933
Speaker 3: No, You asked what it was and I said it

1054
00:50:24,053 --> 00:50:26,373
Speaker 3: was the Northeaster And we started to talk about the

1055
00:50:26,413 --> 00:50:30,093
Speaker 3: North Easter at length. Yeah, the northeast is the normal

1056
00:50:30,133 --> 00:50:33,212
Speaker 3: sea breeze, but the northwester drives you crazy in christ Church. Yeah,

1057
00:50:33,213 --> 00:50:36,533
Speaker 3: I'm getting at is that because it's spent a lot

1058
00:50:36,533 --> 00:50:39,853
Speaker 3: of time traveling over the plains. You're correct, So it

1059
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:42,773
Speaker 3: comes from the mountains and then smashes into the city

1060
00:50:42,933 --> 00:50:45,373
Speaker 3: and then people lose their collective mind. Right. The south

1061
00:50:45,413 --> 00:50:48,613
Speaker 3: Easter is the wind you don't love in Dunedan. Yeah,

1062
00:50:48,653 --> 00:50:50,333
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of techs saying Tyler, don't you

1063
00:50:50,333 --> 00:50:52,652
Speaker 3: ever come back to christ Church and fear fear cop

1064
00:50:52,653 --> 00:50:52,973
Speaker 3: as well?

1065
00:50:54,053 --> 00:50:56,652
Speaker 2: Did Tyler actually e a live in christ Church? It's

1066
00:50:56,653 --> 00:50:59,252
Speaker 2: the northwest wind A fair question to ask.

1067
00:50:59,533 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that hurts very so I can

1068
00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:06,333
Speaker 3: never recover from that one. No, your winds, Tyler, No exactly.

1069
00:51:07,093 --> 00:51:09,333
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten is the number to call.

1070
00:51:09,453 --> 00:51:12,013
Speaker 2: The six is do you really need high sunshine hours?

1071
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:14,133
Speaker 2: They are building a huge solar farm right here in

1072
00:51:14,253 --> 00:51:16,773
Speaker 2: Rua Kaka, but we don't get a lot of sunshine

1073
00:51:17,053 --> 00:51:19,133
Speaker 2: here overcast all of the time and rains a lot.

1074
00:51:19,773 --> 00:51:22,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, I may. I don't know the efficiency on that.

1075
00:51:22,573 --> 00:51:27,533
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a basic assumption that you want to

1076
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:30,692
Speaker 2: build a solar power where there is a lot.

1077
00:51:30,613 --> 00:51:31,973
Speaker 3: Of sun makes sense.

1078
00:51:32,093 --> 00:51:35,293
Speaker 2: But you know there's still a lot of looms coming

1079
00:51:35,373 --> 00:51:36,812
Speaker 2: out of an overcast sky as well.

1080
00:51:37,013 --> 00:51:39,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruka, that's up in Northland, right, it gets a

1081
00:51:39,933 --> 00:51:44,373
Speaker 3: little bit of sunshine over summer. This one says, get

1082
00:51:44,413 --> 00:51:48,933
Speaker 3: a guys. Absolutely, the quality of equipment and installation is key.

1083
00:51:49,013 --> 00:51:51,853
Speaker 3: Probably don't use a company that also specializes in curtains

1084
00:51:51,853 --> 00:51:56,293
Speaker 3: and carpets. Shots fired, so curtain and carpet layers, you know,

1085
00:51:56,333 --> 00:51:57,652
Speaker 3: good on solar Apparently.

1086
00:51:57,333 --> 00:51:59,773
Speaker 2: If the person that you're talking about that company, I'll

1087
00:51:59,813 --> 00:52:02,413
Speaker 2: tell you what. They laid a floor a part of

1088
00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:03,133
Speaker 2: my house recently.

1089
00:52:03,573 --> 00:52:07,133
Speaker 3: Good, very good, very good. You can trust them. Oh,

1090
00:52:07,213 --> 00:52:09,573
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty number to call medi

1091
00:52:10,173 --> 00:52:10,692
Speaker 3: How are you?

1092
00:52:12,213 --> 00:52:12,533
Speaker 18: Hello?

1093
00:52:12,813 --> 00:52:14,853
Speaker 3: Hello, nice to check with you. How's your soul going?

1094
00:52:16,453 --> 00:52:17,213
Speaker 17: Eight years?

1095
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:24,493
Speaker 3: I'm in paradise, right, what part of the country? Well, lovely, lovely.

1096
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:27,212
Speaker 17: Yes, lovely, all right, Paradise for sure.

1097
00:52:29,693 --> 00:52:33,013
Speaker 5: Huh is it really the absolutely?

1098
00:52:33,133 --> 00:52:37,732
Speaker 17: Absolutely, we're sawing guys like this. I saw it ten

1099
00:52:37,813 --> 00:52:42,692
Speaker 17: years ago solo at home. Oh that's interesting, and I thought,

1100
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:44,652
Speaker 17: and then when the whole of the world just went

1101
00:52:45,733 --> 00:52:48,613
Speaker 17: COVID and it tearned upside down, and holy shit, I'm

1102
00:52:48,613 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 17: going to get this on. Otherwise we're not going to

1103
00:52:50,973 --> 00:52:53,533
Speaker 17: have any power. We're not going to have this. Everything's

1104
00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:55,933
Speaker 17: going to go up as sure as hell. I got

1105
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:58,973
Speaker 17: it on Tony Holmes on wheels. Banu. You've got to

1106
00:52:58,973 --> 00:53:01,413
Speaker 17: have this thing. You've got to do some homework, and

1107
00:53:01,413 --> 00:53:04,453
Speaker 17: you've got to have money, a bit of money. But

1108
00:53:04,533 --> 00:53:06,853
Speaker 17: I'll tell you what for what I did, and with

1109
00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:12,853
Speaker 17: an EV car which come into house, so that don't

1110
00:53:12,893 --> 00:53:14,613
Speaker 17: cost me nothing over traveling.

1111
00:53:15,613 --> 00:53:18,253
Speaker 3: That's double right there, Medy. You've got the EV and

1112
00:53:18,293 --> 00:53:18,973
Speaker 3: you've got the solar.

1113
00:53:20,213 --> 00:53:22,692
Speaker 17: Mate went, I had the money of it, I'm gonna

1114
00:53:22,973 --> 00:53:26,253
Speaker 17: to spend it well, and so I did and so

1115
00:53:26,413 --> 00:53:27,253
Speaker 17: eight years.

1116
00:53:27,533 --> 00:53:29,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how much did it cost you for your

1117
00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:30,453
Speaker 3: six panels?

1118
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 17: Only had six panels exactly? Or everything all up in

1119
00:53:35,973 --> 00:53:39,493
Speaker 17: the car included two hundred and thirty eight thousand.

1120
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:46,133
Speaker 3: Dollars of cares. It's a fortune. Gee, I've never seen

1121
00:53:46,133 --> 00:53:47,373
Speaker 3: that much money in my life. Maddy.

1122
00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:50,733
Speaker 17: Well, well, I had it. I had it, and I

1123
00:53:50,813 --> 00:53:52,293
Speaker 17: put it on, put it all on.

1124
00:53:52,533 --> 00:53:57,733
Speaker 3: Put no corners for the panels. Your six panels are

1125
00:53:57,733 --> 00:54:00,172
Speaker 3: twenty k What have you bought that undred and forty?

1126
00:54:02,013 --> 00:54:05,652
Speaker 17: Okay? Story more story. The house itself is bearing you

1127
00:54:06,413 --> 00:54:11,853
Speaker 17: tiny homes on wheels, so no apes, okay, and it's perfect.

1128
00:54:11,453 --> 00:54:14,173
Speaker 17: Everyone they come, even builders, they say bedding and not

1129
00:54:14,253 --> 00:54:17,613
Speaker 17: jealous of many people. By hell, you've got to happen yet.

1130
00:54:18,773 --> 00:54:22,493
Speaker 17: And I'm like, I say, the house and they got

1131
00:54:22,493 --> 00:54:24,973
Speaker 17: it up here already, does put it on my section?

1132
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:28,173
Speaker 17: I had my own legs. I'm Maldy, and so I

1133
00:54:28,333 --> 00:54:31,293
Speaker 17: just put it on my own section, no, you know,

1134
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:39,573
Speaker 17: and got the solar in that solar and uh.

1135
00:54:37,813 --> 00:54:40,613
Speaker 2: And thirty or whatever it was for the.

1136
00:54:40,173 --> 00:54:45,493
Speaker 3: House and the sold okay, and that's a goodbye, right yeah. Yeah.

1137
00:54:46,733 --> 00:54:49,292
Speaker 17: The road, the road cost up to get to my house,

1138
00:54:49,333 --> 00:54:52,413
Speaker 17: you know, six grand, so you know, everything added up,

1139
00:54:52,693 --> 00:54:54,172
Speaker 17: and it's.

1140
00:54:54,093 --> 00:54:56,373
Speaker 2: On wheels, the tiny homes on wheels, so it's got

1141
00:54:56,653 --> 00:54:58,413
Speaker 2: different rules around.

1142
00:54:58,733 --> 00:55:02,533
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, that's the rate. But the thing is I've

1143
00:55:02,573 --> 00:55:05,133
Speaker 17: actually concreted it in as well. I've had the.

1144
00:55:05,093 --> 00:55:08,573
Speaker 2: Whetill the wheels still on there under behind the conquer.

1145
00:55:10,173 --> 00:55:15,493
Speaker 3: I bought that, yeah loophole. Yeah yeah, And.

1146
00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:18,013
Speaker 17: So I came into the house, but I had cleaned

1147
00:55:18,053 --> 00:55:20,692
Speaker 17: this all out, you see, just all of a sudden. Yeah,

1148
00:55:20,813 --> 00:55:23,053
Speaker 17: even when I was sitting in the house and then

1149
00:55:23,293 --> 00:55:26,133
Speaker 17: looking I'm sitting out looking out through the kitchen, lovely

1150
00:55:26,973 --> 00:55:30,453
Speaker 17: sliding door, double glazed doors out the end of years,

1151
00:55:30,453 --> 00:55:34,373
Speaker 17: stunning and looking at hope through the mountain. It's beautiful.

1152
00:55:36,373 --> 00:55:40,013
Speaker 17: Oh mate, good on above and beyond, above and beyond.

1153
00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:44,373
Speaker 2: The smugness levels are through the roof. Your smugless levels.

1154
00:55:44,453 --> 00:55:47,013
Speaker 2: Smugness levels are high.

1155
00:55:47,053 --> 00:55:55,973
Speaker 3: I'm high, all right, Oh many, bless you you're great. Yeah,

1156
00:55:56,013 --> 00:55:58,133
Speaker 3: it sounds like you're living the dream. Yeah, thank you

1157
00:55:58,253 --> 00:56:00,813
Speaker 3: very much for giving us a buzz. How good was she?

1158
00:56:01,173 --> 00:56:02,613
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad she said the house and that

1159
00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:04,533
Speaker 3: equation in the end, because two hundred and forty eight

1160
00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:06,413
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for solar might be a little bit steep

1161
00:56:06,453 --> 00:56:12,773
Speaker 3: for most people. The tex says, some good techs coming through.

1162
00:56:12,813 --> 00:56:13,652
Speaker 3: We'll get to a few of those.

1163
00:56:13,733 --> 00:56:15,813
Speaker 2: We seem to have a high proportion of our show

1164
00:56:16,053 --> 00:56:17,493
Speaker 2: listeners that are high.

1165
00:56:17,533 --> 00:56:18,053
Speaker 3: Good times.

1166
00:56:18,213 --> 00:56:20,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, time of the day, yep, it is, Yeah,

1167
00:56:20,493 --> 00:56:23,973
Speaker 2: get amongst that. It is twenty eight past two. Headlines

1168
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Speaker 2: with railing coming.

1169
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1188
00:57:41,093 --> 00:57:42,533
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1189
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about solar setups.

1190
00:57:45,613 --> 00:57:46,613
Speaker 2: How is it working for you?

1191
00:57:46,693 --> 00:57:48,973
Speaker 3: This is after a report that many people seem to

1192
00:57:48,973 --> 00:57:51,653
Speaker 3: be struggling with how efficient their solar setups are. Are

1193
00:57:51,693 --> 00:57:53,413
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighties at number to coour, I

1194
00:57:53,453 --> 00:57:53,973
Speaker 3: was talking.

1195
00:57:53,733 --> 00:57:56,933
Speaker 2: About overcast days and how they still produce quite a

1196
00:57:56,973 --> 00:58:00,613
Speaker 2: lot of light. I might have been over estimating the

1197
00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:03,453
Speaker 2: amount of light that comes out on an overcast day.

1198
00:58:03,453 --> 00:58:04,413
Speaker 3: Right, So.

1199
00:58:05,973 --> 00:58:09,693
Speaker 2: On a bright day, you're looking at one thousand, two

1200
00:58:09,733 --> 00:58:13,693
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand lux, which is lumen's per square meter, right,

1201
00:58:14,613 --> 00:58:19,653
Speaker 2: and then that goes right down between that about five

1202
00:58:19,733 --> 00:58:23,253
Speaker 2: thousand on an overcast day, right, So.

1203
00:58:23,373 --> 00:58:24,693
Speaker 3: That is so much less.

1204
00:58:24,973 --> 00:58:27,573
Speaker 2: But you know a bulb in the house is only

1205
00:58:27,893 --> 00:58:30,253
Speaker 2: letting off sixteen hundred lumens, So even.

1206
00:58:30,093 --> 00:58:37,413
Speaker 3: An overcast day is brighter effectively than sitting inside under

1207
00:58:37,413 --> 00:58:39,733
Speaker 3: a light bulb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, but.

1208
00:58:39,973 --> 00:58:42,053
Speaker 2: That's a huge difference, isn't it For a solo If

1209
00:58:42,053 --> 00:58:45,053
Speaker 2: you're down from one hundred thousand to five thousand.

1210
00:58:44,653 --> 00:58:46,693
Speaker 3: That's why you need that battery. But some of those

1211
00:58:46,693 --> 00:58:48,533
Speaker 3: batteries are at twenty k on they oh eight, one

1212
00:58:48,573 --> 00:58:51,333
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1213
00:58:51,373 --> 00:58:54,853
Speaker 3: Nine two niney two is the text as well, Steve,

1214
00:58:55,813 --> 00:58:58,893
Speaker 3: how's your soul agoing mate going?

1215
00:58:58,933 --> 00:59:02,333
Speaker 19: Great, going great, we've had it. We put it in

1216
00:59:02,693 --> 00:59:08,253
Speaker 19: November twenty three and since then we put in sixteen panels,

1217
00:59:08,773 --> 00:59:10,773
Speaker 19: the Q cell panels, which are the best you can

1218
00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:13,373
Speaker 19: get in the world, and we put in a Tesla

1219
00:59:13,413 --> 00:59:19,533
Speaker 19: battery and Pronius Inverta which is Austrian built. And since

1220
00:59:19,573 --> 00:59:22,773
Speaker 19: then we've paid one five dollars thirty power bills.

1221
00:59:23,573 --> 00:59:28,133
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, since one five dollars thirty.

1222
00:59:27,173 --> 00:59:27,893
Speaker 5: Yep, yep.

1223
00:59:28,093 --> 00:59:30,813
Speaker 19: So there was a guy just before he was talking

1224
00:59:30,853 --> 00:59:33,453
Speaker 19: about you built up so in summer you built up

1225
00:59:33,493 --> 00:59:35,773
Speaker 19: a credit. We get it. We get eighteen cents per

1226
00:59:35,853 --> 00:59:40,453
Speaker 19: keller watt from our power company. So every month we

1227
00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:42,773
Speaker 19: get a power ball and it's got it shows what

1228
00:59:42,853 --> 00:59:46,333
Speaker 19: we've used of the of their power of mains power,

1229
00:59:47,013 --> 00:59:51,213
Speaker 19: and then it shows the credit and then you know,

1230
00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:56,213
Speaker 19: so basically over the sunny months we don't pay anything,

1231
00:59:56,213 --> 00:59:58,053
Speaker 19: which is building up credit, and then over those three

1232
00:59:58,133 --> 01:00:01,333
Speaker 19: four months of winter we've normally built up enough credit

1233
01:00:01,733 --> 01:00:04,853
Speaker 19: over the summer months that we don't pay any So

1234
01:00:04,893 --> 01:00:06,973
Speaker 19: it was just last winter was you know, was a

1235
01:00:06,973 --> 01:00:09,093
Speaker 19: bit a bit longer. So we you ended up paying

1236
01:00:09,093 --> 01:00:10,493
Speaker 19: one five dollars thirty power ball.

1237
01:00:10,653 --> 01:00:11,893
Speaker 2: What was your initial investment?

1238
01:00:12,133 --> 01:00:17,173
Speaker 19: Did you say, Steve thirty four brand. But the thing is,

1239
01:00:17,173 --> 01:00:21,173
Speaker 19: all the banks do these green, green green loans, so

1240
01:00:21,213 --> 01:00:22,933
Speaker 19: you can buy an EV or you can put in

1241
01:00:22,973 --> 01:00:25,853
Speaker 19: solo or whatever, and it depends on the bank. But

1242
01:00:25,933 --> 01:00:28,813
Speaker 19: we were with ASP so we could get a three

1243
01:00:28,933 --> 01:00:31,933
Speaker 19: year green loans at one percent interest.

1244
01:00:33,093 --> 01:00:36,533
Speaker 2: It seems to me that you know we're doing you know,

1245
01:00:36,813 --> 01:00:39,773
Speaker 2: this chat is off the back of a article where

1246
01:00:39,813 --> 01:00:42,093
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people winging about their.

1247
01:00:42,173 --> 01:00:42,933
Speaker 3: Solo set up.

1248
01:00:43,133 --> 01:00:45,533
Speaker 2: It seems like if you're in the Hawk's Bay, judging

1249
01:00:45,573 --> 01:00:48,653
Speaker 2: by their texts and call us, a lot of people

1250
01:00:48,653 --> 01:00:50,053
Speaker 2: in the Hawks Bay are pretty happy with this solo

1251
01:00:50,093 --> 01:00:50,933
Speaker 2: set pretty well.

1252
01:00:50,933 --> 01:00:51,573
Speaker 3: What the way that is?

1253
01:00:51,933 --> 01:00:54,173
Speaker 19: Well, well, we get a lot of sun here. But

1254
01:00:54,613 --> 01:00:57,213
Speaker 19: the thing is, you've look like somebody said previously, you've

1255
01:00:57,253 --> 01:00:59,133
Speaker 19: got to do your homework. I did a lot of homework,

1256
01:00:59,173 --> 01:01:01,733
Speaker 19: and it's like and I did go with the carpet

1257
01:01:03,773 --> 01:01:08,733
Speaker 19: flooring and cut and curtain installing company because they were

1258
01:01:08,893 --> 01:01:11,613
Speaker 19: right onto it, because they were the only place you

1259
01:01:11,653 --> 01:01:15,653
Speaker 19: could get the q clat panels from right and they're

1260
01:01:15,693 --> 01:01:19,053
Speaker 19: German designs, not that they're actually made in China, but

1261
01:01:19,173 --> 01:01:24,053
Speaker 19: there they are supervised by by their engineers over there

1262
01:01:24,093 --> 01:01:26,933
Speaker 19: in China from from Germany, so the German and they've

1263
01:01:26,973 --> 01:01:28,973
Speaker 19: won more awards than any other panel in the world.

1264
01:01:29,213 --> 01:01:31,733
Speaker 19: Pronis inverts the number one inverter in the world and

1265
01:01:31,813 --> 01:01:35,333
Speaker 19: Tesla ironically, the one question I did ask was because

1266
01:01:35,373 --> 01:01:39,453
Speaker 19: it's got a twenty year guaranteed life span minimum for

1267
01:01:39,533 --> 01:01:41,533
Speaker 19: the Tesla battery, and said, well, why the hell can't

1268
01:01:41,533 --> 01:01:44,493
Speaker 19: they do twenty year batteries for the Tesla cars. They

1269
01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:45,293
Speaker 19: had no answer to that.

1270
01:01:45,333 --> 01:01:46,773
Speaker 3: But it's a fair point.

1271
01:01:46,893 --> 01:01:49,413
Speaker 2: So does it have does because that's incredible, So does

1272
01:01:49,453 --> 01:01:52,133
Speaker 2: it have a drop off? You know, you get your

1273
01:01:52,133 --> 01:01:54,613
Speaker 2: phone battery, you get your laptop battery. They start off

1274
01:01:54,613 --> 01:01:56,773
Speaker 2: pretty good and then they stop for charging.

1275
01:01:56,893 --> 01:01:59,173
Speaker 19: No like like I haven't e been cleaned and the

1276
01:01:59,213 --> 01:02:01,573
Speaker 19: panels yet they send to me all The only only

1277
01:02:01,653 --> 01:02:04,213
Speaker 19: upkeep you've got to do is you've got to just

1278
01:02:04,333 --> 01:02:06,573
Speaker 19: make up some you know, like some safey water with

1279
01:02:06,613 --> 01:02:10,413
Speaker 19: dish washing liquid and just gently just give you get

1280
01:02:10,413 --> 01:02:13,893
Speaker 19: what a long handled broom and then just gently give

1281
01:02:13,933 --> 01:02:17,413
Speaker 19: you panels a quick rush over and just hose it off,

1282
01:02:17,453 --> 01:02:19,853
Speaker 19: just to get the dust and the bird crap off them.

1283
01:02:19,973 --> 01:02:22,373
Speaker 19: Because obviously if you don't do that over the years

1284
01:02:22,413 --> 01:02:25,093
Speaker 19: you know, the bird crap and the dust will build up.

1285
01:02:24,973 --> 01:02:25,533
Speaker 5: And like it.

1286
01:02:25,773 --> 01:02:27,013
Speaker 3: I'm going to like him growing up there.

1287
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:29,413
Speaker 19: Yeah, things like that. Yeah, so yeah, I guess so

1288
01:02:29,533 --> 01:02:31,773
Speaker 19: over quite a few years. Clog it's pretty slow going.

1289
01:02:31,773 --> 01:02:33,573
Speaker 3: But in spray we forget on it. Or is that

1290
01:02:33,613 --> 01:02:34,853
Speaker 3: a no no, you don't want to stray?

1291
01:02:34,893 --> 01:02:35,493
Speaker 14: I would say not.

1292
01:02:36,013 --> 01:02:38,573
Speaker 19: They're pretty si but yeah, I haven't. I haven't got

1293
01:02:38,573 --> 01:02:41,333
Speaker 19: around to buy in one of those long handled Sophie brooms,

1294
01:02:41,333 --> 01:02:43,533
Speaker 19: so I've got to do that. So I've remissed it.

1295
01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:45,933
Speaker 19: But I haven't noticed a drop off at all, and

1296
01:02:46,533 --> 01:02:49,373
Speaker 19: like one a good on a good month in summer,

1297
01:02:49,533 --> 01:02:53,293
Speaker 19: we will probably send back with those sixteen panels to

1298
01:02:53,693 --> 01:02:55,933
Speaker 19: our power company about five hundred and forty kilowatts.

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01:02:57,013 --> 01:02:59,453
Speaker 3: Wow, it's good for them and good for you as well, Steve,

1300
01:02:59,573 --> 01:03:00,293
Speaker 3: Good on you, Steve.

1301
01:03:00,373 --> 01:03:02,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hawk's Bay. It's going well with the solar. It's

1302
01:03:02,813 --> 01:03:05,613
Speaker 2: interesting if you've ever cleared like and off a roof.

1303
01:03:05,933 --> 01:03:09,373
Speaker 2: I painted a roof recently on a house, and before

1304
01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:12,573
Speaker 2: we cleared off the liking of off me roof, I

1305
01:03:13,533 --> 01:03:15,613
Speaker 2: hadn't realized what it takes to get rid of and

1306
01:03:15,853 --> 01:03:18,133
Speaker 2: liking And now if I'm walking around and I see

1307
01:03:18,173 --> 01:03:21,733
Speaker 2: a roof with liken on it. I just get peace.

1308
01:03:22,173 --> 01:03:26,293
Speaker 3: You Paul buggers, You've got no idea that clings? How

1309
01:03:26,333 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 3: does it do it? Yeah? What a being? Did you

1310
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:31,453
Speaker 3: say anything on it? You got to go real coustic though,

1311
01:03:31,453 --> 01:03:31,733
Speaker 3: don't you?

1312
01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:33,533
Speaker 2: Well no at this point because it was too close,

1313
01:03:33,573 --> 01:03:35,373
Speaker 2: because you can spray and it will die over time.

1314
01:03:35,413 --> 01:03:36,733
Speaker 3: But I needed to paint immediately.

1315
01:03:36,773 --> 01:03:40,053
Speaker 2: I was impatient, so I went out with you know

1316
01:03:40,573 --> 01:03:44,493
Speaker 2: various you know, high pressure hose, you know, water blasted it,

1317
01:03:44,533 --> 01:03:45,973
Speaker 2: but also got it with the wire brush.

1318
01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:48,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, you poor bugger. That's hard work. That's hard. Yeah,

1319
01:03:49,053 --> 01:03:52,493
Speaker 3: Gay Richard, you're in the White cuttle and you love

1320
01:03:52,533 --> 01:03:53,213
Speaker 3: your solar.

1321
01:03:54,493 --> 01:03:54,733
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1322
01:03:54,773 --> 01:03:57,293
Speaker 10: Well, I've got a solar system just being finished tomorrow,

1323
01:03:58,213 --> 01:04:01,373
Speaker 10: and we've got another solar system that we're bet up

1324
01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:05,213
Speaker 10: running for a few months. Well, we go completely off grid,

1325
01:04:05,933 --> 01:04:10,933
Speaker 10: we don't stay connected to the power. So twenty panels, sorry,

1326
01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:14,613
Speaker 10: forty four panels, So that's twenty kilo wants of power

1327
01:04:14,613 --> 01:04:20,773
Speaker 10: can be produced in the sunlight. I've got thirty seven

1328
01:04:20,853 --> 01:04:24,933
Speaker 10: KBA of batteries in one place and the other one's

1329
01:04:24,933 --> 01:04:29,853
Speaker 10: got FIRSTY got a three phase and verter which is

1330
01:04:29,973 --> 01:04:34,013
Speaker 10: now what's becoming more than normal. Most houses are single phase,

1331
01:04:34,053 --> 01:04:36,213
Speaker 10: but our property is three faces are three phase and

1332
01:04:36,333 --> 01:04:40,933
Speaker 10: vert and yeah, there's a big gangs and it goes

1333
01:04:40,973 --> 01:04:44,093
Speaker 10: to the power cable that goes to county's power or

1334
01:04:44,333 --> 01:04:47,613
Speaker 10: because it's power, because we don't need it, you.

1335
01:04:47,693 --> 01:04:50,373
Speaker 2: Put next through it metaphorically or literally.

1336
01:04:51,453 --> 01:04:54,373
Speaker 5: Almost literally a good feeling.

1337
01:04:55,813 --> 01:04:58,413
Speaker 10: So we were we had power bills up to eight

1338
01:04:58,493 --> 01:04:59,373
Speaker 10: hundred dollars a month.

1339
01:05:01,413 --> 01:05:01,853
Speaker 3: That's high.

1340
01:05:02,853 --> 01:05:05,653
Speaker 10: Ye don't have that power bill anymore if I wanted

1341
01:05:05,653 --> 01:05:08,293
Speaker 10: to play it safe, and I always say to people,

1342
01:05:08,813 --> 01:05:11,533
Speaker 10: if you do this, play safe from the beginning. You

1343
01:05:11,693 --> 01:05:14,373
Speaker 10: can be connected to the grid through your power company

1344
01:05:14,373 --> 01:05:19,773
Speaker 10: for about forty dollars a month. If you've got what

1345
01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:22,533
Speaker 10: they call a controlling gateway, which is what we have

1346
01:05:22,733 --> 01:05:26,453
Speaker 10: on the system. It will only pull power if it

1347
01:05:26,533 --> 01:05:29,813
Speaker 10: needs to, so it doesn't put power. It cost you

1348
01:05:29,853 --> 01:05:32,613
Speaker 10: forty dollars a month to have your insurance policy have

1349
01:05:32,693 --> 01:05:35,653
Speaker 10: being connected to the power. So eight hundred dollars a

1350
01:05:35,653 --> 01:05:39,173
Speaker 10: month to forty dollars a month, that's a really good saving.

1351
01:05:40,013 --> 01:05:43,813
Speaker 10: We went the next step and disconnected and it doesn't

1352
01:05:43,813 --> 01:05:48,293
Speaker 10: cost you a fortune. And there's systems out there that

1353
01:05:48,453 --> 01:05:51,453
Speaker 10: are proven to work and work and work and not

1354
01:05:51,573 --> 01:05:55,773
Speaker 10: give you any trouble. So our whole we're don't say

1355
01:05:55,893 --> 01:06:00,173
Speaker 10: we're off grid. We're two houses, three sheds, water for

1356
01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:08,173
Speaker 10: its sparpool, an office. Right, we're off grid, right, and

1357
01:06:09,853 --> 01:06:11,773
Speaker 10: it will take me less than four years to pay

1358
01:06:11,813 --> 01:06:18,093
Speaker 10: for it in the savings I make. And to give

1359
01:06:18,093 --> 01:06:21,973
Speaker 10: you an example, the batteries have a twenty seven year

1360
01:06:22,093 --> 01:06:24,013
Speaker 10: life cycle guarantee.

1361
01:06:25,453 --> 01:06:27,893
Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. I mean, if you're spending eight hundred

1362
01:06:27,893 --> 01:06:30,573
Speaker 3: bucks a month on power and you're not spending that anymore.

1363
01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:33,373
Speaker 3: Not too many people are running that sort of operation, though.

1364
01:06:33,413 --> 01:06:38,213
Speaker 3: Do you get one of the green loans Richard, No, No.

1365
01:06:38,173 --> 01:06:40,213
Speaker 5: Don't care, right to.

1366
01:06:40,253 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 10: Tell you, right, it wasn't a lot of money if

1367
01:06:41,973 --> 01:06:44,253
Speaker 10: you if you go to the right group, the right people,

1368
01:06:48,013 --> 01:06:51,693
Speaker 10: it'll be thirty seven for this one, and the other

1369
01:06:51,773 --> 01:06:54,733
Speaker 10: one was about forty two. But it's got more batteries,

1370
01:06:55,533 --> 01:06:59,773
Speaker 10: so that will take lessen four years to pay back.

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01:07:00,173 --> 01:07:04,053
Speaker 10: If I pay it back to myself at the rate

1372
01:07:04,133 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 10: of what the power is custom right now, well I

1373
01:07:07,013 --> 01:07:10,133
Speaker 10: could have that paid off in eight years and haven't

1374
01:07:10,173 --> 01:07:15,253
Speaker 10: got to play money. But get the right system, talk

1375
01:07:15,333 --> 01:07:20,133
Speaker 10: to the right people. Get batteries. If you're going to

1376
01:07:20,133 --> 01:07:23,613
Speaker 10: feedback into the grid, I think that's a great scam

1377
01:07:24,293 --> 01:07:27,053
Speaker 10: because first of all, the power company says, well, you

1378
01:07:27,093 --> 01:07:29,413
Speaker 10: need a different meter, so they're going to charge you

1379
01:07:29,453 --> 01:07:32,133
Speaker 10: for another meter. Then they say, oh, you've got to

1380
01:07:32,133 --> 01:07:35,333
Speaker 10: be connected. Even if you're feeding power to us, you

1381
01:07:35,373 --> 01:07:39,333
Speaker 10: still have to pay the connection fee, which could be

1382
01:07:39,493 --> 01:07:42,693
Speaker 10: up to one hundred and sixty dollars a month. And

1383
01:07:42,733 --> 01:07:46,733
Speaker 10: then if you want to get a decent payback. So

1384
01:07:46,813 --> 01:07:49,293
Speaker 10: at the moment where I am, it's forty cents a

1385
01:07:49,373 --> 01:07:53,013
Speaker 10: kilo what to buy, it's six cents a kill of

1386
01:07:53,093 --> 01:07:56,493
Speaker 10: what to sell back to the I can get more,

1387
01:07:57,053 --> 01:07:59,573
Speaker 10: but I'm going to go into a five year contract

1388
01:08:00,413 --> 01:08:03,053
Speaker 10: and I can only sell back five kilowatts at a time.

1389
01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:07,493
Speaker 10: So it's very difficult for me just to pay just

1390
01:08:07,493 --> 01:08:10,533
Speaker 10: to get enough money back to cover my connection three.

1391
01:08:11,293 --> 01:08:13,813
Speaker 10: So why would I do that? I just I'm making

1392
01:08:13,853 --> 01:08:17,532
Speaker 10: the power. It's my power is when I want.

1393
01:08:17,412 --> 01:08:17,893
Speaker 13: To use it.

1394
01:08:17,973 --> 01:08:18,932
Speaker 3: Good on your richards.

1395
01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:21,333
Speaker 2: Get the X out, Yeah, cut that line to the

1396
01:08:22,492 --> 01:08:26,452
Speaker 2: solar system's going off. Crankin eight hundred bucks a month

1397
01:08:26,492 --> 01:08:31,613
Speaker 2: worth of juice and smugs. Smugness levels through the Great investments.

1398
01:08:31,933 --> 01:08:33,973
Speaker 3: It is seventeen to three taking your calls on O

1399
01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:36,173
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty has your solar system

1400
01:08:36,253 --> 01:08:37,412
Speaker 3: going back very shortly.

1401
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:41,253
Speaker 1: Matt and Tayler with you as your afternoon rolls on

1402
01:08:41,612 --> 01:08:44,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda.

1403
01:08:44,612 --> 01:08:47,093
Speaker 6: Can you crack the code? Please go to codes every

1404
01:08:47,173 --> 01:08:48,412
Speaker 6: Day News dog z'd be.

1405
01:08:49,372 --> 01:08:52,052
Speaker 2: Hey, jose Moyle, your callers, do you think that article

1406
01:08:52,173 --> 01:08:54,852
Speaker 2: is accurate? You've had nothing but good feedback. It's about solo.

1407
01:08:55,293 --> 01:08:56,012
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

1408
01:08:56,213 --> 01:08:56,852
Speaker 3: It's so true.

1409
01:08:56,933 --> 01:09:00,012
Speaker 2: This is all bouncing off an article which was saying

1410
01:09:00,053 --> 01:09:01,892
Speaker 2: people were complaining about their solar setups.

1411
01:09:01,973 --> 01:09:04,093
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so I mension where it is. We'll tell

1412
01:09:04,093 --> 01:09:06,013
Speaker 3: you where it wasn't. So it wasn't in the Herald, Right,

1413
01:09:06,173 --> 01:09:08,692
Speaker 3: wasn't an iron z ed wasn't a one news article.

1414
01:09:09,293 --> 01:09:11,213
Speaker 3: So how many are left how many are left on

1415
01:09:11,253 --> 01:09:15,053
Speaker 3: where that article was was written and produced? Okay, I mean,

1416
01:09:15,333 --> 01:09:16,652
Speaker 3: but you didn't tell me that at the start of this,

1417
01:09:18,253 --> 01:09:22,773
Speaker 3: so shame on, shame on that article. Everyone's loving their solar.

1418
01:09:22,572 --> 01:09:28,053
Speaker 2: So you find three massive punishing wings and there's an

1419
01:09:28,133 --> 01:09:29,893
Speaker 2: article saying that everyone's unhappy.

1420
01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:32,333
Speaker 3: With this what's that. It's Greg from Nelson, he's unhappy

1421
01:09:32,372 --> 01:09:37,372
Speaker 3: and Trish from christ tsh tresh come on, and what

1422
01:09:37,412 --> 01:09:38,173
Speaker 3: was the headline.

1423
01:09:38,812 --> 01:09:43,092
Speaker 2: The headline was stand by, stand by, stand by, solar

1424
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:44,572
Speaker 2: savings or solar shock.

1425
01:09:44,732 --> 01:09:47,573
Speaker 3: Dozens of key we say these systems aren't delivering extpected.

1426
01:09:47,333 --> 01:09:53,532
Speaker 2: Dozens of kiwi's. I'm calling to question the entire the

1427
01:09:53,933 --> 01:09:56,972
Speaker 2: premise of our discussion. As we hit the forty seventh

1428
01:09:57,053 --> 01:10:00,372
Speaker 2: minerrec Yeah, I'm glad. A lot of people were excited

1429
01:10:00,372 --> 01:10:02,652
Speaker 2: by Richard's system. He was just talking about it before,

1430
01:10:02,812 --> 01:10:07,012
Speaker 2: sounding impressive. It was was that sig energy, sig energy,

1431
01:10:07,093 --> 01:10:09,652
Speaker 2: sig energy. Yeah nice, Okay, it sounds over squeaking well

1432
01:10:09,692 --> 01:10:09,932
Speaker 2: for her.

1433
01:10:10,333 --> 01:10:16,012
Speaker 3: Mark, welcome to the show. Oh sorry, Mark, I'm able.

1434
01:10:15,933 --> 01:10:18,213
Speaker 2: To turn your phone on, so so that's my fault

1435
01:10:18,732 --> 01:10:20,172
Speaker 2: you're on now, Sorry mate.

1436
01:10:20,452 --> 01:10:21,492
Speaker 13: Right mate? How are you?

1437
01:10:21,732 --> 01:10:22,293
Speaker 3: Bloody good?

1438
01:10:23,532 --> 01:10:23,932
Speaker 5: Awesome?

1439
01:10:25,492 --> 01:10:26,572
Speaker 13: A couple of really good calls.

1440
01:10:26,612 --> 01:10:27,052
Speaker 3: Yet there.

1441
01:10:27,572 --> 01:10:30,892
Speaker 20: I'm actually an installer. I haven't I'm not actively installing now,

1442
01:10:30,933 --> 01:10:34,253
Speaker 20: but I've spent about about twelve forteen years doing it.

1443
01:10:35,652 --> 01:10:39,812
Speaker 20: And yeah there's there's some This is really I question

1444
01:10:40,452 --> 01:10:41,092
Speaker 20: the articles.

1445
01:10:41,133 --> 01:10:42,253
Speaker 5: I questioned who paid for it?

1446
01:10:42,572 --> 01:10:44,893
Speaker 3: A lot of people are.

1447
01:10:47,133 --> 01:10:50,333
Speaker 20: Because yeah, no, the I I've never seen a I've

1448
01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:53,172
Speaker 20: never seen a system draw draw power from the grid.

1449
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:57,932
Speaker 20: If it's been correctly installed, use it here, and very

1450
01:10:58,053 --> 01:11:01,093
Speaker 20: very rare circumstances. If you had a battery system that

1451
01:11:01,253 --> 01:11:04,492
Speaker 20: was set to have a minimum charge level and that

1452
01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:06,093
Speaker 20: it had gone flat.

1453
01:11:06,452 --> 01:11:08,293
Speaker 3: Then then I know my own inverter.

1454
01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:10,452
Speaker 20: If it does go completely flat, say we've had a

1455
01:11:10,452 --> 01:11:13,012
Speaker 20: big power cut, it'll draw itself back up to twenty

1456
01:11:13,053 --> 01:11:16,532
Speaker 20: five percent to recharge the batteries. But that's the only

1457
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:18,412
Speaker 20: circumstances I can think of that you you'd full from

1458
01:11:18,452 --> 01:11:18,972
Speaker 20: the grid.

1459
01:11:20,812 --> 01:11:22,652
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a couple of a couple of really good.

1460
01:11:22,452 --> 01:11:26,973
Speaker 20: Calls around around the battery life as well. I know

1461
01:11:27,013 --> 01:11:30,772
Speaker 20: the ones I've got installed at my place. They're warranted

1462
01:11:30,772 --> 01:11:34,972
Speaker 20: for twenty years, same technology as the BYD cars use.

1463
01:11:35,732 --> 01:11:37,973
Speaker 2: Now, mark What is you know as an installer? What

1464
01:11:38,013 --> 01:11:40,333
Speaker 2: are the most important things for people that are setting

1465
01:11:40,372 --> 01:11:42,933
Speaker 2: up a solar system? What's the most important thing for

1466
01:11:42,973 --> 01:11:44,892
Speaker 2: them to remember and look out for?

1467
01:11:47,933 --> 01:11:50,333
Speaker 20: Oh, there's lots of there's lots of the most important

1468
01:11:51,093 --> 01:11:55,093
Speaker 20: one you get what you paid for. But also it's

1469
01:11:55,612 --> 01:11:58,852
Speaker 20: horses for courses. I mean, if you were a say,

1470
01:11:58,853 --> 01:12:02,052
Speaker 20: if you're a cafe owner and you wanted to reduce

1471
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 20: your power bills and you only really use draw power

1472
01:12:04,532 --> 01:12:07,253
Speaker 20: during the day, like a simple on green system would

1473
01:12:07,253 --> 01:12:10,772
Speaker 20: be absolutely perfect for If you're a householder and use

1474
01:12:10,812 --> 01:12:13,732
Speaker 20: all your power in the evening, then batteries are awesome

1475
01:12:13,812 --> 01:12:17,732
Speaker 20: because you can shift the power used to the nighttime.

1476
01:12:17,812 --> 01:12:20,893
Speaker 20: You can if you can still export excess energy.

1477
01:12:20,652 --> 01:12:21,133
Speaker 6: To the grid.

1478
01:12:21,213 --> 01:12:23,732
Speaker 20: But it is, like I say, it's horses for courses.

1479
01:12:25,253 --> 01:12:26,572
Speaker 20: Is teach you're going to use your power?

1480
01:12:26,812 --> 01:12:29,532
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is a tea getting getting high level now? Mark?

1481
01:12:29,612 --> 01:12:31,372
Speaker 3: Or you know? My impression is that the teach was

1482
01:12:31,412 --> 01:12:34,013
Speaker 3: pretty good teen years ago, and it's it's got a

1483
01:12:34,053 --> 01:12:36,253
Speaker 3: little bit better but still kind of the same. Am

1484
01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:37,532
Speaker 3: I wrong in my assumption there?

1485
01:12:39,612 --> 01:12:42,133
Speaker 20: It's getting a bit easier to install, a bit more

1486
01:12:42,173 --> 01:12:47,293
Speaker 20: plug and play. There's from an installer's point of view,

1487
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:51,012
Speaker 20: from a user's point of view, the feedback you're getting,

1488
01:12:51,492 --> 01:12:53,652
Speaker 20: the connectivity of the inverters, it is getting a lot better.

1489
01:12:54,452 --> 01:12:56,772
Speaker 20: So I can't speak to all of them. I've got

1490
01:12:56,812 --> 01:13:01,133
Speaker 20: a Chinese one installed actually at my place, which I

1491
01:13:01,372 --> 01:13:03,213
Speaker 20: absolutely love. But you know, there's an app on the

1492
01:13:03,293 --> 01:13:05,092
Speaker 20: app on the phone, it'll tell you what the battery

1493
01:13:05,093 --> 01:13:07,492
Speaker 20: state of charges. It'll tell you how much you're using

1494
01:13:07,532 --> 01:13:08,692
Speaker 20: from the grid and how much.

1495
01:13:08,532 --> 01:13:09,572
Speaker 5: You're exporting to the grid.

1496
01:13:11,732 --> 01:13:14,093
Speaker 20: But yeah, the technology is getting better, but it's just

1497
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:16,452
Speaker 20: minor efficiency games now more than anything.

1498
01:13:17,572 --> 01:13:19,972
Speaker 2: Mark, thank you very much for your phone call. Really

1499
01:13:20,053 --> 01:13:23,933
Speaker 2: nice to get your expertise. Is this true, Tyler this

1500
01:13:24,053 --> 01:13:26,893
Speaker 2: Texas says Trush from christ Church found that there was

1501
01:13:26,893 --> 01:13:28,772
Speaker 2: an issue with her cable and when it was faxed,

1502
01:13:28,772 --> 01:13:30,532
Speaker 2: her powerball winter seventy dollars a month.

1503
01:13:30,652 --> 01:13:33,612
Speaker 3: YEP, that is correct, So there was wrong cable for trash.

1504
01:13:33,692 --> 01:13:38,293
Speaker 2: The headline of the article again, dozens dozens of key

1505
01:13:38,333 --> 01:13:40,973
Speaker 2: we say their systems aren't delivering expected returns when it

1506
01:13:40,973 --> 01:13:43,492
Speaker 2: comes to solar and and one of those dozens it

1507
01:13:43,532 --> 01:13:46,452
Speaker 2: wasn't a solar power issue. It was a faulty cable.

1508
01:13:46,692 --> 01:13:48,692
Speaker 3: It was trust from christ Shirt. She had the wrong cable.

1509
01:13:48,812 --> 01:13:51,412
Speaker 2: That can happen with a heater. Dozens of people are

1510
01:13:51,452 --> 01:13:54,132
Speaker 2: saying that their heaters have stopped working if the cable

1511
01:13:54,293 --> 01:14:00,612
Speaker 2: isn't connected properly. Dozens of people have problems with the

1512
01:14:00,612 --> 01:14:03,652
Speaker 2: cable to my stereo. Mysterio is not working.

1513
01:14:03,732 --> 01:14:06,452
Speaker 3: So Trump is fine. Now the cable's broken. We'll find

1514
01:14:06,452 --> 01:14:08,173
Speaker 3: out how Greg's doing. Greg was the other one they

1515
01:14:08,173 --> 01:14:10,293
Speaker 3: meant me. Maybe it was a cable for Greg as well.

1516
01:14:11,053 --> 01:14:15,452
Speaker 3: Greg's got a solar panels upside down. It's not nine

1517
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:17,652
Speaker 3: minutes to three. We would beat very soon.

1518
01:14:18,772 --> 01:14:21,213
Speaker 6: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1519
01:14:21,253 --> 01:14:21,852
Speaker 6: along the way.

1520
01:14:22,093 --> 01:14:26,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons NEWSTALKSB.

1521
01:14:26,812 --> 01:14:28,293
Speaker 3: News Talks AB six to three.

1522
01:14:28,732 --> 01:14:31,693
Speaker 6: Are you ready to crack the Skoda code?

1523
01:14:32,093 --> 01:14:32,852
Speaker 3: Yes, here we go.

1524
01:14:33,053 --> 01:14:35,293
Speaker 2: So our mates at Scota want to send you and

1525
01:14:35,333 --> 01:14:38,213
Speaker 2: a friend to experience the tour de Front's when you

1526
01:14:38,253 --> 01:14:41,172
Speaker 2: play Scoda code. So if you've been to the Scota

1527
01:14:41,213 --> 01:14:44,052
Speaker 2: website for today's Scoter code, but you need some help,

1528
01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:46,572
Speaker 2: we are here to help you with that right now.

1529
01:14:47,133 --> 01:14:48,213
Speaker 3: So here is that code.

1530
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:52,372
Speaker 2: Waves have me, weels need me, and without me nothing

1531
01:14:52,652 --> 01:14:57,092
Speaker 2: really happens. Waves have me, wals need me and without

1532
01:14:57,173 --> 01:15:00,132
Speaker 2: me nothing really happens. It's curlier than other.

1533
01:14:59,973 --> 01:15:03,173
Speaker 3: Ones, super cryptic. Yeah, this will all make sense. However,

1534
01:15:03,213 --> 01:15:04,213
Speaker 3: we got it. Do you got it?

1535
01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:04,532
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1536
01:15:04,532 --> 01:15:06,892
Speaker 2: I got it all right, Go and visit scoter dot

1537
01:15:06,933 --> 01:15:09,932
Speaker 2: co dot nz it right now and enter that sco

1538
01:15:09,973 --> 01:15:12,412
Speaker 2: to code to be in to win that fantastic trip

1539
01:15:12,452 --> 01:15:14,052
Speaker 2: for two to the Tour de France.

1540
01:15:14,372 --> 01:15:16,892
Speaker 3: We are confident you will crack that sc to code.

1541
01:15:16,893 --> 01:15:19,333
Speaker 3: Matt's got it, so I've got it too. I do

1542
01:15:19,452 --> 01:15:21,053
Speaker 3: not have it. No, I'm going to go on the

1543
01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:22,572
Speaker 3: website right now and see if I can crack it.

1544
01:15:22,652 --> 01:15:25,452
Speaker 3: Waves have me, wheales need me without me, nothing really?

1545
01:15:25,893 --> 01:15:28,333
Speaker 3: All right? Then get in and it is a great prize.

1546
01:15:28,372 --> 01:15:29,772
Speaker 3: But bag to our discussion about Sola.

1547
01:15:30,053 --> 01:15:32,492
Speaker 2: Guys just tuned in funny how life works out turned

1548
01:15:32,492 --> 01:15:34,372
Speaker 2: on the radio. Then I hurd all this feedback and

1549
01:15:34,652 --> 01:15:36,892
Speaker 2: on my way home to meet a solar consultant. Can

1550
01:15:36,933 --> 01:15:38,812
Speaker 2: you guys give me a wrap up of the hour

1551
01:15:38,853 --> 01:15:40,452
Speaker 2: in terms of positive and negative comments?

1552
01:15:40,492 --> 01:15:40,812
Speaker 3: Please?

1553
01:15:41,532 --> 01:15:44,532
Speaker 2: Thanks Jamie. Well, all our callers have been positive and

1554
01:15:44,572 --> 01:15:46,732
Speaker 2: most of our texas been positive.

1555
01:15:46,853 --> 01:15:50,173
Speaker 3: Yep, it's been all go Jamie. So I think the messages.

1556
01:15:50,293 --> 01:15:53,253
Speaker 2: Don't skimp you know, don't go cheap o on it

1557
01:15:53,293 --> 01:15:55,412
Speaker 2: at the start that that won't work out for you.

1558
01:15:55,652 --> 01:15:59,692
Speaker 2: And work out the battery configuration such that it fits

1559
01:15:59,692 --> 01:16:00,653
Speaker 2: your needs.

1560
01:16:00,412 --> 01:16:01,852
Speaker 3: Yep, your specific needs.

1561
01:16:01,893 --> 01:16:04,093
Speaker 2: So explain what needs you have when you use the

1562
01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:05,173
Speaker 2: power and such yep.

1563
01:16:05,253 --> 01:16:07,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, by quality, and do your research, and I just

1564
01:16:07,452 --> 01:16:09,692
Speaker 3: had to look at from Nelson who had some trouble.

1565
01:16:10,093 --> 01:16:12,492
Speaker 3: They're still investigating, so we'll give you an update on

1566
01:16:12,532 --> 01:16:15,372
Speaker 3: how Greed goes with his particular situation. But thank you

1567
01:16:15,532 --> 01:16:18,972
Speaker 3: very much to everyone who text and called on Solar

1568
01:16:19,532 --> 01:16:21,612
Speaker 3: and as you say, Matt, overwhelmingly people love it.

1569
01:16:21,772 --> 01:16:25,333
Speaker 2: Harrison Solar excellent. Immediately on intonation late May twenty twenty five,

1570
01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:27,253
Speaker 2: our powerball reduced by twenty five percent, which is on

1571
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,173
Speaker 2: average was six hundred and twenty dollars per month.

1572
01:16:29,173 --> 01:16:29,492
Speaker 3: There you go.

1573
01:16:29,612 --> 01:16:32,732
Speaker 2: So someone was having to go at Harrison Solo and

1574
01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:34,532
Speaker 2: that person saying, Harrison Sol is awesome.

1575
01:16:34,572 --> 01:16:35,093
Speaker 3: How good?

1576
01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:35,732
Speaker 17: It's right?

1577
01:16:35,893 --> 01:16:39,852
Speaker 3: Coming up after three o'clock. The sectomy reversals, they are

1578
01:16:39,893 --> 01:16:43,093
Speaker 3: increasing in New Zealand's Yeah, this is fascinating. Doctors are

1579
01:16:43,093 --> 01:16:46,532
Speaker 3: reporting a big wave or increase in request for that

1580
01:16:46,652 --> 01:16:49,492
Speaker 3: reversal since twenty twenty. So if you have done that,

1581
01:16:49,652 --> 01:16:51,492
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Why why did you get

1582
01:16:51,532 --> 01:16:53,492
Speaker 3: the reversal? Clearly because you wanted more kids.

1583
01:16:53,532 --> 01:16:55,572
Speaker 2: Get it done. We need more kids, we need more people,

1584
01:16:55,692 --> 01:16:58,132
Speaker 2: need more babies. Oh you connect the plumbing.

1585
01:16:58,173 --> 01:16:59,973
Speaker 3: Let's go. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties that

1586
01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:00,572
Speaker 3: number of call.

1587
01:17:00,652 --> 01:17:05,013
Speaker 1: News is next, the big stories, the big issues, the

1588
01:17:05,093 --> 01:17:08,852
Speaker 1: big trends and everything in between. The kids, he'th and

1589
01:17:08,933 --> 01:17:12,812
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid Skoda News Talk said.

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01:17:12,612 --> 01:17:15,932
Speaker 3: The afternoon to you six pas three, welcome back into

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01:17:15,973 --> 01:17:16,372
Speaker 3: the show.

1592
01:17:16,973 --> 01:17:19,053
Speaker 2: A Texas says, what I do with the Skoda thing?

1593
01:17:19,452 --> 01:17:20,972
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you.

1594
01:17:21,093 --> 01:17:23,732
Speaker 2: So if you go to scoter dot co dot nz

1595
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:26,452
Speaker 2: and there's a game at the.

1596
01:17:26,452 --> 01:17:28,612
Speaker 3: Moment called Scota Codes, and if you crack it you

1597
01:17:28,652 --> 01:17:31,372
Speaker 3: go into the drawer to win a trip for two

1598
01:17:31,492 --> 01:17:34,253
Speaker 3: to the Tour de France. And if you need a

1599
01:17:34,253 --> 01:17:36,652
Speaker 3: little bit of help, dear text and anybody else listening,

1600
01:17:37,213 --> 01:17:39,053
Speaker 3: here's a bit of a clue. Yeah, this is the

1601
01:17:39,213 --> 01:17:39,932
Speaker 3: This is the clue.

1602
01:17:39,973 --> 01:17:42,812
Speaker 2: Waves have me, wheels need me, and without me, nothing

1603
01:17:42,893 --> 01:17:46,492
Speaker 2: really happens. So go to scoter dot codzi.

1604
01:17:46,692 --> 01:17:49,412
Speaker 3: I just went chucked it in easy as took me

1605
01:17:49,452 --> 01:17:51,892
Speaker 3: a week while to figure that out. You can't win, mate,

1606
01:17:52,612 --> 01:17:56,932
Speaker 3: Well I can still winter you know, why would you?

1607
01:17:57,013 --> 01:17:59,492
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. If they pick me, then I'll

1608
01:17:59,532 --> 01:18:01,412
Speaker 3: give it somebody else clearly, so you can go. You

1609
01:18:01,412 --> 01:18:03,452
Speaker 3: can't win, yeah, but everybody else can, so make sure

1610
01:18:03,452 --> 01:18:04,692
Speaker 3: you do before we get.

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01:18:04,532 --> 01:18:07,013
Speaker 2: Onto the topic which I'm very interested in, which is

1612
01:18:07,412 --> 01:18:10,333
Speaker 2: the sect to me revew Ursul's very interesting in it.

1613
01:18:10,412 --> 01:18:13,413
Speaker 3: Me yep, I just wanted.

1614
01:18:13,173 --> 01:18:16,172
Speaker 2: To talk about I was talking before about solar energy smugness.

1615
01:18:16,173 --> 01:18:17,612
Speaker 2: And I feel a little bit bad about this because

1616
01:18:17,612 --> 01:18:20,772
Speaker 2: we had some great conversations with people that love their

1617
01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:22,932
Speaker 2: solar setup. And it turns out the article we were

1618
01:18:23,293 --> 01:18:26,372
Speaker 2: reading was when you read to the bottom of these

1619
01:18:26,372 --> 01:18:29,133
Speaker 2: problems with solar, it all came back to use it era.

1620
01:18:29,293 --> 01:18:31,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few week experts right at the bottom

1621
01:18:31,133 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 3: of them say solar is great. These people just said

1622
01:18:33,293 --> 01:18:34,412
Speaker 3: the wrong chords.

1623
01:18:34,173 --> 01:18:36,092
Speaker 2: That they were like people. It was like an article

1624
01:18:36,093 --> 01:18:37,692
Speaker 2: on people saying their shoes were falling off and you

1625
01:18:37,732 --> 01:18:39,412
Speaker 2: find out that they weren't tying their laces, you know

1626
01:18:39,452 --> 01:18:42,372
Speaker 2: what I mean. It was that it was that kind

1627
01:18:42,412 --> 01:18:45,492
Speaker 2: of thing. But I think there was a certain I

1628
01:18:45,532 --> 01:18:49,852
Speaker 2: don't know, attitude to let's say, the wider electrification thing

1629
01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:53,012
Speaker 2: that that kind of annoysed some people.

1630
01:18:53,053 --> 01:18:53,813
Speaker 3: The smugness.

1631
01:18:53,973 --> 01:18:59,133
Speaker 2: And I was reading this article in the Thought Crimes substack,

1632
01:18:59,333 --> 01:19:02,133
Speaker 2: which is written by Annie O'Brien, and it was about

1633
01:19:02,452 --> 01:19:06,932
Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins as appearance in this he got an interview

1634
01:19:06,933 --> 01:19:10,412
Speaker 2: in this magazine call what is the magazine called, I

1635
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:13,692
Speaker 2: can't remember, It's called rewiring ATIRA was the name of

1636
01:19:13,732 --> 01:19:16,293
Speaker 2: the online publication, I think it is. They were talking

1637
01:19:16,333 --> 01:19:20,412
Speaker 2: to Chriss Hipkins about his you know, electrification set up,

1638
01:19:20,652 --> 01:19:24,572
Speaker 2: his green credentials, and he described electric vehicles as guilt

1639
01:19:24,572 --> 01:19:29,652
Speaker 2: free and electric electrification as largely a mental hurdle people

1640
01:19:29,692 --> 01:19:32,492
Speaker 2: need to get over. So electrification is largely a mental

1641
01:19:32,772 --> 01:19:37,173
Speaker 2: hurdle people need to get over. And so in thought

1642
01:19:37,173 --> 01:19:40,053
Speaker 2: crimes on his substack and he O'Brien went through what

1643
01:19:40,933 --> 01:19:43,612
Speaker 2: the cost of going green for cross Hipkins actually was,

1644
01:19:44,093 --> 01:19:47,772
Speaker 2: and she goes through electric vehicle, mid range electric vehicle,

1645
01:19:47,812 --> 01:19:52,852
Speaker 2: about sixty thousands. He talks about an induction induction cook

1646
01:19:52,973 --> 01:19:55,812
Speaker 2: top which is between you know, fifteen hundred and four

1647
01:19:55,893 --> 01:19:58,612
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, talk about the solar panels set up, which

1648
01:19:58,652 --> 01:20:01,572
Speaker 2: is you know, you know, around what we've been talking about,

1649
01:20:01,572 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 2: thirty K thirty five to fifty K setup, and so,

1650
01:20:07,772 --> 01:20:11,532
Speaker 2: you know, as she puts it, Crysipins is correct that

1651
01:20:11,572 --> 01:20:14,852
Speaker 2: solar and electrification can deliver long term savings under the

1652
01:20:14,933 --> 01:20:17,692
Speaker 2: right conditions. But the right conditions in this case include

1653
01:20:17,732 --> 01:20:19,772
Speaker 2: being paid more than three hundred thousand dollars per year

1654
01:20:20,173 --> 01:20:22,253
Speaker 2: owning his own home and beach home, and having the

1655
01:20:22,293 --> 01:20:25,732
Speaker 2: taxpayers pay for a good chunk of his transition. Considering this,

1656
01:20:25,812 --> 01:20:28,532
Speaker 2: it is unbelievably rich of him to put resistance to

1657
01:20:28,692 --> 01:20:31,932
Speaker 2: transitioning to electric down to some kind of psychological clinging

1658
01:20:31,973 --> 01:20:32,492
Speaker 2: to the past.

1659
01:20:32,652 --> 01:20:34,812
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so.

1660
01:20:35,013 --> 01:20:37,492
Speaker 2: And also there's a suggestion that you know, and when

1661
01:20:37,532 --> 01:20:43,772
Speaker 2: he's talking about electrification mainly being a mental hurdle that

1662
01:20:43,812 --> 01:20:46,532
Speaker 2: people get over, she's pointing out it's likely that the

1663
01:20:46,612 --> 01:20:52,213
Speaker 2: Hyundai Kona EV is a taxpayer funded minister vehicle she

1664
01:20:52,253 --> 01:20:53,212
Speaker 2: can charge at Parliament.

1665
01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:54,892
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, there's a lot of mental hurdles

1666
01:20:54,893 --> 01:20:56,492
Speaker 3: I've got in my life that one hundred K would

1667
01:20:56,532 --> 01:21:01,372
Speaker 3: solve pretty pretty fast. I think, very good. Yeah, that's

1668
01:21:01,372 --> 01:21:02,012
Speaker 3: a great article.

1669
01:21:02,173 --> 01:21:05,452
Speaker 2: Getting a roll X is largely a mental hurdle. And

1670
01:21:05,572 --> 01:21:06,293
Speaker 2: about thirty k.

1671
01:21:06,772 --> 01:21:10,173
Speaker 3: What was the name of that substick, thought crimes, Thought crimes.

1672
01:21:10,213 --> 01:21:13,492
Speaker 3: I'll go give it a read. Right, let's get into

1673
01:21:13,612 --> 01:21:15,532
Speaker 3: this discussion. This is going to be a doozy. So

1674
01:21:15,893 --> 01:21:20,972
Speaker 3: vizectomy reversals they are doctors have seen a noticeable increase

1675
01:21:21,013 --> 01:21:25,972
Speaker 3: in request for the viseectomy reversals since twenty twenty one. Auckland, GP,

1676
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:28,972
Speaker 3: spoken to for this article, says that they are seeing

1677
01:21:29,013 --> 01:21:32,293
Speaker 3: many more men come through his offices each day requesting

1678
01:21:32,333 --> 01:21:37,052
Speaker 3: that particular surgery. Often those who paused family plans during

1679
01:21:37,093 --> 01:21:40,693
Speaker 3: stressful even early parenting years are now seeking the procedure,

1680
01:21:40,732 --> 01:21:44,612
Speaker 3: which reconnects the plumbing, so to speak. It is done

1681
01:21:44,732 --> 01:21:48,012
Speaker 3: after the original vsectomy, and while the simpler clinic procedure

1682
01:21:48,053 --> 01:21:51,973
Speaker 3: costs around four grand, more involved hospital microsurgery can go

1683
01:21:52,173 --> 01:21:55,333
Speaker 3: upwards of twelve thousand dollars, but the success rate is

1684
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,612
Speaker 3: relatively high, about ninety percent. If you've had the snip,

1685
01:21:58,772 --> 01:22:03,172
Speaker 3: then you want to reconnect the plumbing. Ninety percent success

1686
01:22:03,253 --> 01:22:06,092
Speaker 3: rate isn't too bad. No, it's fantastic.

1687
01:22:07,652 --> 01:22:10,492
Speaker 2: I mean they must fool people full of you know,

1688
01:22:10,772 --> 01:22:13,293
Speaker 2: make it less concerning to make the decision.

1689
01:22:13,372 --> 01:22:15,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if it goes down that success rate

1690
01:22:15,452 --> 01:22:18,452
Speaker 3: if you're someone like Tony Coxshawn Great New Zealander, former

1691
01:22:18,492 --> 01:22:21,212
Speaker 3: mayor of Graymouth. But as we mentioned, he's.

1692
01:22:21,612 --> 01:22:25,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greytown near Yeah more than just Graymouth, the Greytown

1693
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:30,213
Speaker 2: mere he gray district here. Sorry he I think it's four.

1694
01:22:30,893 --> 01:22:35,213
Speaker 2: So he had a vasectomy yep. And then what are

1695
01:22:35,253 --> 01:22:38,692
Speaker 2: we calling a reverse A reverseversal yep, then another versect me,

1696
01:22:39,452 --> 01:22:43,533
Speaker 2: then another reversal, then another versect ME, and then another reversal.

1697
01:22:44,572 --> 01:22:49,933
Speaker 3: That's me. So that seven potentially seven procedures. Yeah, but

1698
01:22:50,213 --> 01:22:52,852
Speaker 3: you know, on and off four times. I believe that

1699
01:22:52,973 --> 01:22:55,333
Speaker 3: is a brave man. I could be I could plus

1700
01:22:55,372 --> 01:22:58,052
Speaker 3: and minus one versect to me. Yeah. We did eatually

1701
01:22:58,093 --> 01:22:59,572
Speaker 3: have a chat to him. He didn't want to come

1702
01:22:59,572 --> 01:23:01,452
Speaker 3: on here at the time because his wife had enough

1703
01:23:01,452 --> 01:23:04,053
Speaker 3: of all this vasectomy chats. But he did confirm and

1704
01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:06,492
Speaker 3: he said it was God pretty well. But he's out

1705
01:23:06,492 --> 01:23:08,293
Speaker 3: of the game now. But can you hear from you

1706
01:23:08,372 --> 01:23:11,892
Speaker 3: if you've had act to me a vasectomy reversal, what

1707
01:23:12,133 --> 01:23:14,932
Speaker 3: was the circumstances that led to that? Wasn't an easy

1708
01:23:15,013 --> 01:23:17,612
Speaker 3: decision to make. I mean, clearly it's a decision to

1709
01:23:17,652 --> 01:23:20,213
Speaker 3: have more children. I mean, is that after you've formed

1710
01:23:20,213 --> 01:23:22,692
Speaker 3: a new relationship with perhaps somebody a bit younger, that

1711
01:23:22,732 --> 01:23:24,852
Speaker 3: you decided yep, you know what, I do want to

1712
01:23:24,853 --> 01:23:27,132
Speaker 3: have another couple of kids, or it was so important

1713
01:23:27,133 --> 01:23:29,372
Speaker 3: to them that you decided out their procedure.

1714
01:23:29,372 --> 01:23:31,092
Speaker 2: You know what changes in your life? So at one point,

1715
01:23:31,093 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 2: you're so certain you don't want to have more kids

1716
01:23:33,612 --> 01:23:37,173
Speaker 2: that you have a visectomy, so absolutely certain, to the

1717
01:23:37,213 --> 01:23:41,173
Speaker 2: point where you'll have a procedure and a intimate and

1718
01:23:41,652 --> 01:23:46,253
Speaker 2: I'm going to say vaguely terrifying procedure. Yes, so certain,

1719
01:23:46,612 --> 01:23:50,652
Speaker 2: and then at some point you what happens, and then

1720
01:23:50,692 --> 01:23:52,772
Speaker 2: you go flip it around. I'm going to pay a

1721
01:23:52,812 --> 01:23:55,572
Speaker 2: lot more because of VASSEECTI ME reversal is a lot

1722
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:58,572
Speaker 2: more expensive than a varseectomy. So you're like, now, I'm

1723
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:01,293
Speaker 2: just like, lay out the cash. I'm back in the game. Yeah,

1724
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:02,692
Speaker 2: what happens? Share your story?

1725
01:24:02,692 --> 01:24:05,892
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty, really keen to

1726
01:24:06,293 --> 01:24:08,852
Speaker 3: get your experience if you have gone through Sector ME

1727
01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:12,052
Speaker 3: reversal nine two ninety two is that text number as well.

1728
01:24:12,093 --> 01:24:15,412
Speaker 3: We will be back very shortly. It is thirteen past three.

1729
01:24:15,812 --> 01:24:19,812
Speaker 3: His talk said, be very good afternoon. You're sixteen past

1730
01:24:19,853 --> 01:24:22,853
Speaker 3: three and we are talking about the sect to ME reversals.

1731
01:24:22,933 --> 01:24:25,052
Speaker 3: There is a bit of a pickup with New Zealand

1732
01:24:25,053 --> 01:24:27,892
Speaker 3: men undertaking that procedure. If that's you, she your story.

1733
01:24:27,933 --> 01:24:29,852
Speaker 3: Our eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

1734
01:24:29,973 --> 01:24:32,933
Speaker 3: number to call and the text number is nine to

1735
01:24:33,452 --> 01:24:38,172
Speaker 3: nine two if you prefer that operation of communication. Greg,

1736
01:24:38,853 --> 01:24:39,933
Speaker 3: you've had this procedure.

1737
01:24:40,772 --> 01:24:42,132
Speaker 5: Oh yes, how are you guys?

1738
01:24:42,213 --> 01:24:42,852
Speaker 3: Very good mates?

1739
01:24:44,253 --> 01:24:44,452
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1740
01:24:44,492 --> 01:24:47,372
Speaker 16: So I I my marriage first Marise and the customer

1741
01:24:47,412 --> 01:24:50,852
Speaker 16: or only had two boys, and she wanted me to

1742
01:24:50,893 --> 01:24:54,812
Speaker 16: get the troubes cut if such during the mirror. Then

1743
01:24:54,812 --> 01:24:58,892
Speaker 16: when they're finished. I met a younger lady, shall we say,

1744
01:24:59,093 --> 01:25:03,253
Speaker 16: and she didn't have kids, so we got it all together.

1745
01:25:04,812 --> 01:25:06,612
Speaker 2: So when she how did you how did you did

1746
01:25:06,652 --> 01:25:07,372
Speaker 2: your first wife?

1747
01:25:07,692 --> 01:25:08,293
Speaker 3: Raise the top?

1748
01:25:08,412 --> 01:25:11,093
Speaker 16: But with you just didn't want any more cod gender

1749
01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:14,932
Speaker 16: story and I was I was okay with that, you know,

1750
01:25:15,053 --> 01:25:17,612
Speaker 16: I could have had more, but happy with two boys,

1751
01:25:17,812 --> 01:25:20,972
Speaker 16: loved so but she was just element no way, no more.

1752
01:25:21,173 --> 01:25:24,492
Speaker 3: And how many more have your heads since the well

1753
01:25:24,652 --> 01:25:25,773
Speaker 3: the reversal.

1754
01:25:26,173 --> 01:25:28,013
Speaker 16: Well we had I'll actually rung you before about the

1755
01:25:28,053 --> 01:25:31,372
Speaker 16: surrogate the eggs that the story.

1756
01:25:32,772 --> 01:25:33,333
Speaker 3: Story.

1757
01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:36,253
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, so I had to get myself sorted out

1758
01:25:36,253 --> 01:25:38,612
Speaker 16: before that's sort of said of it's a bit of

1759
01:25:38,612 --> 01:25:41,813
Speaker 16: a funny story about getting the actual process done. So

1760
01:25:41,812 --> 01:25:44,572
Speaker 16: so the general and I said, it's really expensive, so

1761
01:25:44,812 --> 01:25:47,892
Speaker 16: we just did at the local way, the cheap way,

1762
01:25:48,372 --> 01:25:51,452
Speaker 16: so we say, and I'm not sure if you're aware,

1763
01:25:51,492 --> 01:25:53,492
Speaker 16: but if you can imagine the troops the size of

1764
01:25:53,532 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 16: a say noodle, the whole itself is microscopper. So to

1765
01:25:58,492 --> 01:26:02,253
Speaker 16: get so to get the holes lined up, they put

1766
01:26:02,253 --> 01:26:06,212
Speaker 16: a needle in the hole on one side and basically

1767
01:26:06,213 --> 01:26:07,293
Speaker 16: tie fishing line to it.

1768
01:26:07,612 --> 01:26:10,132
Speaker 2: Have you got the nerves? Are the nerves and the noodle?

1769
01:26:12,372 --> 01:26:12,492
Speaker 15: Uh?

1770
01:26:12,652 --> 01:26:15,572
Speaker 16: No, well asleep, I actually goll asleep. Sententis that they

1771
01:26:15,612 --> 01:26:17,052
Speaker 16: gave me a couple of bills and I was gone.

1772
01:26:17,532 --> 01:26:20,492
Speaker 16: But no, no, there's no news at all. So they

1773
01:26:20,612 --> 01:26:23,412
Speaker 16: so they essentially the two holes get lined up with

1774
01:26:23,492 --> 01:26:26,173
Speaker 16: it's a bit of fishing line, and then they slip together,

1775
01:26:26,253 --> 01:26:29,012
Speaker 16: so the holes line up. But what they what happens

1776
01:26:29,013 --> 01:26:30,852
Speaker 16: at the end of the fishing line gets poked through

1777
01:26:30,893 --> 01:26:34,253
Speaker 16: your skin and then tied externally, so it looks like

1778
01:26:34,253 --> 01:26:36,772
Speaker 16: you've got the world's worth pierce piercing for a week.

1779
01:26:38,013 --> 01:26:38,852
Speaker 13: This nylon is.

1780
01:26:42,253 --> 01:26:45,133
Speaker 16: Now one side went really well, but the other side,

1781
01:26:45,173 --> 01:26:46,933
Speaker 16: so we say, blew up to the size of a

1782
01:26:46,973 --> 01:26:49,612
Speaker 16: good size of lemons. Wow ahead, a bit of a

1783
01:26:49,692 --> 01:26:55,933
Speaker 16: bleed and then that nylon got really tight at this

1784
01:26:56,093 --> 01:26:57,932
Speaker 16: all got done in Auckland, and I live in Wellington,

1785
01:26:58,732 --> 01:27:01,333
Speaker 16: and it was the weekend and I couldn't get hold

1786
01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:02,933
Speaker 16: of a doctor, so I wasn't quite sure what to do.

1787
01:27:03,013 --> 01:27:05,213
Speaker 16: SIGN ended up cutting the nylon to relieve the pressure,

1788
01:27:05,253 --> 01:27:08,532
Speaker 16: so we say, and sort of tying another. But oh

1789
01:27:09,372 --> 01:27:13,293
Speaker 16: a little bit of a mess. But then a week flatter,

1790
01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:14,972
Speaker 16: you've got to go see your local nurse to get

1791
01:27:15,013 --> 01:27:18,932
Speaker 16: that nylon pulled out. And the nurse hadn't done it before,

1792
01:27:18,973 --> 01:27:20,692
Speaker 16: and she was way more nervous than I was.

1793
01:27:23,772 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 3: I ended up doing it myself in her presence.

1794
01:27:27,093 --> 01:27:27,852
Speaker 13: While she was there.

1795
01:27:28,293 --> 01:27:31,053
Speaker 16: She was in the in the in the clinic, but

1796
01:27:31,612 --> 01:27:33,692
Speaker 16: she she was quite young and she just wasn't going

1797
01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:34,053
Speaker 16: to do it.

1798
01:27:34,093 --> 01:27:35,532
Speaker 8: So I ended up doing myself.

1799
01:27:35,572 --> 01:27:36,652
Speaker 3: And you can understand her.

1800
01:27:38,333 --> 01:27:40,892
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, it didn't hurt.

1801
01:27:40,732 --> 01:27:42,452
Speaker 16: But it was like, really, like that shouldn't be.

1802
01:27:42,452 --> 01:27:47,812
Speaker 2: Fighting when when they're greg when they're lining up the surgeon,

1803
01:27:49,173 --> 01:27:50,973
Speaker 2: I think the most famous one in Auckland's called the

1804
01:27:51,013 --> 01:27:55,812
Speaker 2: best man. But when when they're lining it up, is

1805
01:27:55,812 --> 01:27:58,333
Speaker 2: that is that is that with? Is that with hands

1806
01:27:58,452 --> 01:28:00,732
Speaker 2: or is it some kind of device or is robotic

1807
01:28:00,853 --> 01:28:03,133
Speaker 2: because it's shaky. Shaky hands would not be good in

1808
01:28:03,133 --> 01:28:04,892
Speaker 2: that situation, you know, because.

1809
01:28:04,652 --> 01:28:07,293
Speaker 16: The nylon's gone into a hole on one side and

1810
01:28:07,933 --> 01:28:10,572
Speaker 16: then up through the wall of the tube, and then

1811
01:28:10,612 --> 01:28:15,012
Speaker 16: the other ends of the nylon's going on the other tube.

1812
01:28:15,412 --> 01:28:18,372
Speaker 16: So so the holes are lined up by the nylon, right,

1813
01:28:18,452 --> 01:28:19,012
Speaker 16: that makes sense.

1814
01:28:19,253 --> 01:28:20,612
Speaker 2: But you're still going to get You're still going to

1815
01:28:20,652 --> 01:28:23,092
Speaker 2: get You're still going to get the nylon through the noodle, right.

1816
01:28:24,253 --> 01:28:29,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's steps on the side slash in here.

1817
01:28:29,293 --> 01:28:31,572
Speaker 2: You've got to foul hock the noodle and.

1818
01:28:31,652 --> 01:28:34,652
Speaker 16: And that, and that's essentially that if they missed the holes,

1819
01:28:34,652 --> 01:28:37,173
Speaker 16: and it's what you end up having problems. So but

1820
01:28:37,213 --> 01:28:39,053
Speaker 16: like your longs are shortly a little yours four now,

1821
01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:42,372
Speaker 16: so congrable, well initially, but yeah, I wouldn't want to

1822
01:28:42,412 --> 01:28:42,772
Speaker 16: do it again.

1823
01:28:42,812 --> 01:28:46,293
Speaker 5: And that guys like doing it four times.

1824
01:28:45,812 --> 01:28:48,972
Speaker 2: Like most of my schooling. I didn't listen in six education.

1825
01:28:49,253 --> 01:28:50,933
Speaker 2: So how many of these noodles do do?

1826
01:28:51,013 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 3: We hear going two or two one on each side.

1827
01:28:54,372 --> 01:28:56,812
Speaker 2: So it's just the one microscopic noodle that's doing all

1828
01:28:56,812 --> 01:28:59,372
Speaker 2: the hard work on each side.

1829
01:28:59,933 --> 01:29:02,052
Speaker 16: The noodles not microscopic, but the whole.

1830
01:29:01,933 --> 01:29:03,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, but you know what I mean.

1831
01:29:03,612 --> 01:29:09,612
Speaker 16: But yes, yes, that's such a sens from the.

1832
01:29:07,452 --> 01:29:11,692
Speaker 2: So there's a major, major problem on either side, then

1833
01:29:11,933 --> 01:29:14,213
Speaker 2: then that's game over. So you have to be with

1834
01:29:14,253 --> 01:29:17,093
Speaker 2: the you know, with the reversal that have to be

1835
01:29:17,412 --> 01:29:20,452
Speaker 2: very careful because imagine it's.

1836
01:29:20,293 --> 01:29:23,173
Speaker 16: Apparently it's really flexible and quite long, so they could

1837
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:23,572
Speaker 16: just cut it.

1838
01:29:23,893 --> 01:29:26,852
Speaker 2: Did they tell you why? What did they tell you why?

1839
01:29:26,933 --> 01:29:31,892
Speaker 2: You're lefty already became lemon sized? Did they Did you

1840
01:29:31,893 --> 01:29:33,092
Speaker 2: get information on that one?

1841
01:29:33,372 --> 01:29:35,213
Speaker 16: I assume by looking at it he might have used

1842
01:29:35,253 --> 01:29:36,732
Speaker 16: it as practice.

1843
01:29:36,772 --> 01:29:37,012
Speaker 5: I don't.

1844
01:29:37,053 --> 01:29:37,572
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1845
01:29:37,812 --> 01:29:40,293
Speaker 16: I think I had to please. So it's because that

1846
01:29:40,412 --> 01:29:44,892
Speaker 16: Bruce as well, Bruce really bad. I'm a white fellow,

1847
01:29:44,893 --> 01:29:47,012
Speaker 16: and I didn't I was. I was black and white.

1848
01:29:46,772 --> 01:29:54,333
Speaker 3: Monst soundly yeah, sound like yeah, went through the ring

1849
01:29:54,452 --> 01:29:57,492
Speaker 3: a little bit, to be honest, Greek. So they just

1850
01:29:57,492 --> 01:29:59,412
Speaker 3: just rode back a little bit. That that when you

1851
01:29:59,492 --> 01:30:02,572
Speaker 3: had the visct to me, was there I mean, because

1852
01:30:02,612 --> 01:30:05,492
Speaker 3: your wife at the time had the tubes tied. Was

1853
01:30:05,532 --> 01:30:07,293
Speaker 3: there any reason why you felt you had to have

1854
01:30:07,372 --> 01:30:09,213
Speaker 3: the to me? Was the kind of just part of

1855
01:30:09,213 --> 01:30:10,372
Speaker 3: the agreement At the time.

1856
01:30:10,893 --> 01:30:13,732
Speaker 16: She wanted the double double. She just didn't want he said,

1857
01:30:13,772 --> 01:30:18,053
Speaker 16: so she wanted both of them. She found out she

1858
01:30:18,253 --> 01:30:21,452
Speaker 16: was pregnant with our second boy. What's a pregnancy kiss

1859
01:30:21,612 --> 01:30:22,812
Speaker 16: to give you a tube side?

1860
01:30:23,293 --> 01:30:26,013
Speaker 3: Right? So I didn't realize that. So so if the

1861
01:30:26,053 --> 01:30:28,533
Speaker 3: female gets the tubes tied, there is still a possibility,

1862
01:30:28,572 --> 01:30:30,893
Speaker 3: if the male hasn't been head of the sect to me,

1863
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:32,412
Speaker 3: that it could still get pregnant.

1864
01:30:33,213 --> 01:30:36,893
Speaker 16: No, she was just so that she didn't want to

1865
01:30:36,893 --> 01:30:38,972
Speaker 16: get pregnant again, just taking no chance.

1866
01:30:39,293 --> 01:30:39,532
Speaker 21: She was.

1867
01:30:41,093 --> 01:30:41,372
Speaker 3: Making.

1868
01:30:41,372 --> 01:30:43,293
Speaker 2: It was very sure, you know, And you gotta understand this.

1869
01:30:43,412 --> 01:30:46,133
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot more involved in the pregnancy for

1870
01:30:46,452 --> 01:30:47,333
Speaker 2: the woman than the man.

1871
01:30:47,452 --> 01:30:49,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of truth that they do a lot.

1872
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:51,492
Speaker 2: Of the heavy lifting when it comes to the growing

1873
01:30:51,492 --> 01:30:52,333
Speaker 2: the baby and such.

1874
01:30:53,492 --> 01:30:53,972
Speaker 16: Exactly.

1875
01:30:54,093 --> 01:30:58,173
Speaker 2: And sorry, just just sorry, I've forgotten. So how many

1876
01:30:58,372 --> 01:31:01,132
Speaker 2: children have you had since with the new partner?

1877
01:31:01,492 --> 01:31:02,572
Speaker 3: Just the one one?

1878
01:31:03,652 --> 01:31:06,133
Speaker 16: That one your old father. So there's no way I'm

1879
01:31:06,133 --> 01:31:07,732
Speaker 16: having any more forty six now, So.

1880
01:31:07,812 --> 01:31:15,053
Speaker 2: Don't say, yeah, but you're still you're still operational now though, right, Yeah?

1881
01:31:15,133 --> 01:31:15,372
Speaker 13: I am?

1882
01:31:16,532 --> 01:31:17,412
Speaker 5: Yeah's problem?

1883
01:31:17,692 --> 01:31:21,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, naturally, so he had no problem, you know what.

1884
01:31:21,293 --> 01:31:23,732
Speaker 2: Greg, thank you for sharing your story for a second time,

1885
01:31:23,853 --> 01:31:26,452
Speaker 2: a different story this time, but both times I've enjoyed

1886
01:31:26,452 --> 01:31:26,892
Speaker 2: your stories.

1887
01:31:26,973 --> 01:31:27,173
Speaker 5: Yep.

1888
01:31:27,253 --> 01:31:30,333
Speaker 3: You're a good man, Greg, Thank you very much. Chairs

1889
01:31:31,053 --> 01:31:32,612
Speaker 3: I mean having to do it yourself for you've got

1890
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:36,093
Speaker 3: to feel for that nurse. But don't worry, I love,

1891
01:31:36,133 --> 01:31:38,772
Speaker 3: I've got this O hundred.

1892
01:31:38,853 --> 01:31:42,412
Speaker 2: I'm worried that he thinks that the doctor might have

1893
01:31:42,532 --> 01:31:43,853
Speaker 2: used has.

1894
01:31:45,213 --> 01:31:50,253
Speaker 3: Set up like a speedball in the gym. Yeah, sounded painful.

1895
01:31:50,372 --> 01:31:52,532
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Are you like Greg,

1896
01:31:52,572 --> 01:31:55,532
Speaker 3: did you have a vasectomy reversal? And what were the

1897
01:31:55,572 --> 01:31:58,612
Speaker 3: circumstances around that? Nine two niney two is that text

1898
01:31:58,692 --> 01:32:01,293
Speaker 3: number as well? We will be back very shortly. It

1899
01:32:01,412 --> 01:32:02,412
Speaker 3: is twenty four past three.

1900
01:32:06,492 --> 01:32:09,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams after dudes call Oh, eight

1901
01:32:09,572 --> 01:32:12,133
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1902
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:15,652
Speaker 3: News Dogs AB. It is twenty seven past three and

1903
01:32:15,692 --> 01:32:18,372
Speaker 3: we're talking about an increase in a key we men

1904
01:32:18,452 --> 01:32:21,812
Speaker 3: having visectomy reversals. If that's you, can you hear your story?

1905
01:32:22,133 --> 01:32:24,213
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're asking the question why you have

1906
01:32:24,333 --> 01:32:26,213
Speaker 2: the reversal. You know, you're so sure at one point

1907
01:32:26,253 --> 01:32:29,732
Speaker 2: that you'll have a procedure and then so sure you

1908
01:32:29,812 --> 01:32:33,133
Speaker 2: want children that you'll have another expensive procedure, much more

1909
01:32:33,173 --> 01:32:36,532
Speaker 2: expensive procedure, and this is this text here is Yes,

1910
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:39,973
Speaker 2: the re touching text, but explains a particular situation. My

1911
01:32:40,013 --> 01:32:41,812
Speaker 2: father in law had two children, decided to have a

1912
01:32:41,933 --> 01:32:44,412
Speaker 2: versect me. Then after nine years there was a terrible

1913
01:32:44,452 --> 01:32:46,892
Speaker 2: accident within the family and they lost their son.

1914
01:32:47,013 --> 01:32:49,372
Speaker 3: So you had it reversed and ended up with two

1915
01:32:49,452 --> 01:32:52,532
Speaker 3: more incredible daughters. Wow, that is Yeah, that's beautiful.

1916
01:32:52,572 --> 01:32:54,772
Speaker 2: That that is a reason, isn't it. Absolutely Thank you

1917
01:32:54,772 --> 01:32:57,452
Speaker 2: so much for your text. I got my versect me

1918
01:32:57,452 --> 01:33:00,213
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen when I was thirty, having had two kids.

1919
01:33:00,253 --> 01:33:02,532
Speaker 2: Says this text. They've got it bigod pardon reversed in

1920
01:33:02,572 --> 01:33:06,172
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and we had a baby girl in twenty nineteen.

1921
01:33:06,812 --> 01:33:09,372
Speaker 2: The Benzo die is a pan they gave me to

1922
01:33:09,452 --> 01:33:12,652
Speaker 2: sedate was so good. This is a good reminder. I

1923
01:33:12,692 --> 01:33:14,972
Speaker 2: need to get a visect to me again. Cheers Mark, Yep,

1924
01:33:15,013 --> 01:33:15,772
Speaker 2: God speed Mark.

1925
01:33:16,013 --> 01:33:21,093
Speaker 3: Jeez, you love the Benzo desire Benzo do ziopen. I've

1926
01:33:21,133 --> 01:33:23,652
Speaker 3: heard it's good stuff. If you need it, Yeah, it

1927
01:33:23,772 --> 01:33:24,933
Speaker 3: must be a better way to get hold of it.

1928
01:33:27,013 --> 01:33:30,293
Speaker 3: Is that text. This is an interesting text. There's a

1929
01:33:30,333 --> 01:33:33,293
Speaker 3: lot behind the scenes in this one. Guys.

1930
01:33:33,293 --> 01:33:35,452
Speaker 2: My husband and I have six children. I've had two

1931
01:33:35,612 --> 01:33:39,292
Speaker 2: very traumatic berths. I've been sliced open twice too, premature

1932
01:33:39,333 --> 01:33:42,333
Speaker 2: births as early as twenty nine and thirty weeks. And yes,

1933
01:33:42,372 --> 01:33:45,372
Speaker 2: my mind is made up. I don't want any more children. However,

1934
01:33:45,452 --> 01:33:47,892
Speaker 2: my husband won't go and get a vasectomy. I don't

1935
01:33:47,893 --> 01:33:49,572
Speaker 2: want to go under the knife again. I have gone

1936
01:33:49,612 --> 01:33:52,532
Speaker 2: through enough trauma and been sliced open many times just

1937
01:33:52,532 --> 01:33:54,973
Speaker 2: to heal from all of that. He has said that

1938
01:33:55,053 --> 01:33:57,293
Speaker 2: he was too scared and that he just doesn't want

1939
01:33:57,333 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 2: to go and do it. Why how can I convince him?

1940
01:34:01,133 --> 01:34:03,133
Speaker 2: Advice on talking to a man about trying to get

1941
01:34:03,173 --> 01:34:06,612
Speaker 2: him to get a v sectamy. Mate, if the only

1942
01:34:06,652 --> 01:34:08,692
Speaker 2: reason you're not getting a visectomy is because you're too

1943
01:34:08,732 --> 01:34:13,812
Speaker 2: scared and your missus has been sliced open for two

1944
01:34:13,853 --> 01:34:18,572
Speaker 2: premature births, I mean of a sectomy is nothing like

1945
01:34:19,372 --> 01:34:20,732
Speaker 2: a sea section.

1946
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:22,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, a sea section is.

1947
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:26,932
Speaker 2: I mean, I've witnessed one one of the most intense

1948
01:34:26,973 --> 01:34:29,972
Speaker 2: things you know. Yeah, I've actually witnessed it, witch witnessed

1949
01:34:29,973 --> 01:34:33,492
Speaker 2: before and after. But yeah, sounds yeah, it sounds a

1950
01:34:33,492 --> 01:34:35,412
Speaker 2: hell of a lot more traumatic than just a snip.

1951
01:34:35,652 --> 01:34:37,852
Speaker 2: Go get a snip, man, and you get some benzos

1952
01:34:37,853 --> 01:34:38,492
Speaker 2: while you add it.

1953
01:34:38,652 --> 01:34:41,253
Speaker 3: It's easy. Get a snip your horse. Yeah, yeah, help

1954
01:34:41,293 --> 01:34:44,333
Speaker 3: your wife out. Oh eight hundred eighty eighty is the

1955
01:34:44,492 --> 01:34:47,132
Speaker 3: number to call. We're take you more of your calls

1956
01:34:47,293 --> 01:34:47,812
Speaker 3: very shortly.

1957
01:34:47,853 --> 01:34:51,213
Speaker 2: So if you've had a a vsectomy reversal, why share

1958
01:34:51,253 --> 01:34:51,772
Speaker 2: your story?

1959
01:34:51,812 --> 01:34:53,572
Speaker 3: It is twenty nine past three.

1960
01:34:54,492 --> 01:34:57,012
Speaker 6: You've talk said be headlines.

1961
01:34:58,093 --> 01:35:01,732
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1962
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1963
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1964
01:35:09,013 --> 01:35:11,973
Speaker 11: in the US is rail bombardment of Iran or its

1965
01:35:12,053 --> 01:35:15,852
Speaker 11: retaliatory strikes. Two military planes are being prepared to help

1966
01:35:15,933 --> 01:35:20,692
Speaker 11: Kiwi's evacuate, contingent on it being safe to fly. A

1967
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Speaker 11: committee's recommending Parliament to introduce age restrictions for social media

1968
01:35:25,612 --> 01:35:28,892
Speaker 11: after a probe and to online harm. The Education and

1969
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:32,572
Speaker 11: Workforce Select Committee inquiry has heard current laws are not

1970
01:35:32,692 --> 01:35:37,492
Speaker 11: fit for purpose with serious and widespread harm. A patched

1971
01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:41,612
Speaker 11: Black Power members been charged after allegedly assaulting two people

1972
01:35:41,933 --> 01:35:45,173
Speaker 11: in a road rage attack in Waikato on Saturday night.

1973
01:35:46,213 --> 01:35:49,532
Speaker 11: Four women's vehicles have been impounded. They've been summoned to

1974
01:35:49,572 --> 01:35:53,333
Speaker 11: court over dangerous driving during a Gang funeral in Auckland.

1975
01:35:54,173 --> 01:35:55,372
Speaker 3: More than one hundred.

1976
01:35:55,093 --> 01:35:59,132
Speaker 11: Thousand New Zealand new battery electric and plug in hybrid

1977
01:35:59,213 --> 01:36:02,612
Speaker 11: vehicles are now registered. It's across both light and heavy

1978
01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:08,732
Speaker 11: vehicles and motorbikes. All blacks Coach versus thirty Media Behind

1979
01:36:08,772 --> 01:36:12,093
Speaker 11: the scenes that Dave Rennie's coronation. You can see the

1980
01:36:12,133 --> 01:36:15,053
Speaker 11: story at NZAID Herald Premium. Back to Matt Heath and

1981
01:36:15,093 --> 01:36:16,013
Speaker 11: Tyner Adam.

1982
01:36:15,853 --> 01:36:18,972
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ray Lane, I've got a sure

1983
01:36:19,093 --> 01:36:23,413
Speaker 2: retraction here you do about Mere Cockshawn x, Mere Cockshawn

1984
01:36:24,213 --> 01:36:27,812
Speaker 2: x Gray District, Mere Cockshawn great man. So I said

1985
01:36:27,893 --> 01:36:30,892
Speaker 2: that he'd had I think I said for sect to

1986
01:36:30,893 --> 01:36:33,692
Speaker 2: me reversal, forsect to me, reversal, vsect to me reversal,

1987
01:36:34,173 --> 01:36:34,652
Speaker 2: VASc to me.

1988
01:36:34,853 --> 01:36:37,253
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I think I see it. You did. Yeah,

1989
01:36:37,412 --> 01:36:39,573
Speaker 3: it's seven yeah, seven procedures.

1990
01:36:40,093 --> 01:36:40,333
Speaker 6: Yep.

1991
01:36:40,692 --> 01:36:43,852
Speaker 2: I've just received this text from seven Sharp hosts Jeremy

1992
01:36:43,853 --> 01:36:47,253
Speaker 2: Wales that said Cockshawn only had two reversals.

1993
01:36:47,412 --> 01:36:50,133
Speaker 3: Okay, right, so he had a snip, a join, a

1994
01:36:50,213 --> 01:36:53,372
Speaker 3: snip and one more join yeah okay, right, okay, so

1995
01:36:53,412 --> 01:36:55,213
Speaker 3: he's still good to go. Well, I ered status is

1996
01:36:55,253 --> 01:36:57,452
Speaker 3: now we need to give him a ring. But that

1997
01:36:57,612 --> 01:36:58,572
Speaker 3: I mean see no.

1998
01:36:58,412 --> 01:37:00,333
Speaker 2: No, yeah, okay, so he's only had two reversals, then

1999
01:37:00,333 --> 01:37:02,372
Speaker 2: he's currently operational.

2000
01:37:02,492 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 3: Okay. I hope mere Coxshawn isn't litigious. Tony, if you're listening,

2001
01:37:07,293 --> 01:37:07,972
Speaker 3: we love you, mate.

2002
01:37:08,053 --> 01:37:12,052
Speaker 2: And this text to us says, Greytown doesn't include Hoka ticker,

2003
01:37:12,133 --> 01:37:15,372
Speaker 2: your mumpet. It's Graymouth through Nuger, black Ball, Cobden and

2004
01:37:16,772 --> 01:37:18,253
Speaker 2: all the sediments along the Gray River.

2005
01:37:18,572 --> 01:37:20,693
Speaker 3: I didn't think I said it was part of Hokitika.

2006
01:37:20,692 --> 01:37:20,932
Speaker 13: I don't.

2007
01:37:21,013 --> 01:37:23,213
Speaker 3: I haven't brought up did you see great district? Yeah,

2008
01:37:23,412 --> 01:37:26,053
Speaker 3: and we focused on the snip joint snip join more

2009
01:37:26,093 --> 01:37:29,692
Speaker 3: than anything else. I haven't said the word Hoka Tika

2010
01:37:29,732 --> 01:37:36,012
Speaker 3: all day, love Hokitika. The Hokatika Beach Hotel is absolutely fantastic.

2011
01:37:36,053 --> 01:37:36,932
Speaker 3: I've stayed in the penthous.

2012
01:37:36,973 --> 01:37:41,732
Speaker 2: They're absolutely beautiful and their lamb shanks are to die for.

2013
01:37:42,053 --> 01:37:46,133
Speaker 3: How good Dad's you've had a reversal? I had, yes,

2014
01:37:46,692 --> 01:37:48,732
Speaker 3: and tell us the circumstances.

2015
01:37:49,652 --> 01:37:56,333
Speaker 8: Well, it was twenty eight years ago when I had

2016
01:37:56,372 --> 01:38:02,972
Speaker 8: my reversal, so it was relatively uncommon back there. Yeah,

2017
01:38:03,013 --> 01:38:09,132
Speaker 8: my first marriage, my head three children, and the first

2018
01:38:09,173 --> 01:38:12,412
Speaker 8: wife then demanded I got to besect me, which I

2019
01:38:12,452 --> 01:38:15,492
Speaker 8: happy to do because I had three kids. It was

2020
01:38:15,532 --> 01:38:18,852
Speaker 8: all about saving your marriage. Though I ended up on

2021
01:38:18,893 --> 01:38:21,973
Speaker 8: the couch within about a month of having the reversal,

2022
01:38:22,452 --> 01:38:24,452
Speaker 8: and then about a month on the couch, I got

2023
01:38:24,452 --> 01:38:28,053
Speaker 8: the boot. So I was noted and it was a

2024
01:38:28,173 --> 01:38:31,972
Speaker 8: waste of time. So anyway, you carry on with life.

2025
01:38:32,053 --> 01:38:36,253
Speaker 8: And shortly after that I met my now significant other

2026
01:38:37,173 --> 01:38:41,372
Speaker 8: and she was unaware. While you're courting, you don't talk

2027
01:38:41,412 --> 01:38:44,732
Speaker 8: about things like that. And when we got more serious,

2028
01:38:44,853 --> 01:38:48,532
Speaker 8: she was going, right, well, what about kids, And I went,

2029
01:38:48,572 --> 01:38:52,452
Speaker 8: oh shit, I've had the snip and she's done. I'm bastard.

2030
01:38:52,532 --> 01:38:56,213
Speaker 8: I've been taking birth control the whole time we've been together,

2031
01:38:56,293 --> 01:38:58,293
Speaker 8: and I could have not bothered about it, you know,

2032
01:38:58,973 --> 01:39:01,173
Speaker 8: And so of course she didn't bother about it, and

2033
01:39:01,213 --> 01:39:03,972
Speaker 8: we had a happy old time for a while. Then

2034
01:39:04,452 --> 01:39:08,493
Speaker 8: came time for us to get in more serious. I

2035
01:39:08,532 --> 01:39:11,293
Speaker 8: asked to marry me, and she said, well, unless you

2036
01:39:11,293 --> 01:39:13,812
Speaker 8: can fill me up with arms and legs, you know,

2037
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:16,772
Speaker 8: you hadn't got a shit shows. So I had to

2038
01:39:16,812 --> 01:39:19,892
Speaker 8: go and get a reversal. Now, twenty eight years ago,

2039
01:39:20,213 --> 01:39:24,533
Speaker 8: it cost me about five grand with a urologist in Wellington,

2040
01:39:25,173 --> 01:39:29,613
Speaker 8: and mate Greg is pretty much giving you a good description.

2041
01:39:30,772 --> 01:39:33,652
Speaker 8: I didn't have fishing wire. I had stainless steel wire

2042
01:39:34,213 --> 01:39:40,972
Speaker 8: that was threaded through the vass and basically a nice

2043
01:39:41,013 --> 01:39:44,772
Speaker 8: little stainless steel button on the outside of the old scroton.

2044
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:48,173
Speaker 8: And I was quite proud of the piercings myself. They

2045
01:39:48,173 --> 01:39:52,372
Speaker 8: were there for about eighteen days back then, and that

2046
01:39:52,532 --> 01:39:55,492
Speaker 8: was pretty uncomfortable. I had a couple of black Doris plums.

2047
01:39:55,532 --> 01:40:01,052
Speaker 8: After the whole process been through. It's yeah, yeah, well

2048
01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:06,133
Speaker 8: I had a I just had a local so I

2049
01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:10,532
Speaker 8: got to watch. So it was a sudden procedure. Well

2050
01:40:10,572 --> 01:40:13,253
Speaker 8: I watched the mirror, but anyway, I just wanted to

2051
01:40:13,253 --> 01:40:15,973
Speaker 8: make sure that everything went well. Now, the key for

2052
01:40:16,093 --> 01:40:18,213
Speaker 8: it was when I had to desect me. You can

2053
01:40:18,293 --> 01:40:20,692
Speaker 8: chop a beast of the tube out, chuck it away,

2054
01:40:21,213 --> 01:40:24,053
Speaker 8: you can't put it back together. But mine was a

2055
01:40:24,093 --> 01:40:26,812
Speaker 8: fold back. So they chopped it and folded back both

2056
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:30,172
Speaker 8: little tubes and just tied them off with a seature.

2057
01:40:31,572 --> 01:40:33,692
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and so all I had to hold them

2058
01:40:33,732 --> 01:40:36,652
Speaker 8: back out, slip this little bit of stainless wire down

2059
01:40:36,812 --> 01:40:40,093
Speaker 8: from down and out and tied it off with a

2060
01:40:40,133 --> 01:40:44,892
Speaker 8: button and do little seatures to make it knit back

2061
01:40:44,933 --> 01:40:48,572
Speaker 8: together and heal. But what a lot of people don't

2062
01:40:48,612 --> 01:40:52,932
Speaker 8: realize about having a esect me, my neurologist set up

2063
01:40:52,933 --> 01:40:56,932
Speaker 8: to about five years, you're pretty good to go. Any

2064
01:40:57,013 --> 01:41:00,572
Speaker 8: longer than that and everything sort of shrivels up. So

2065
01:41:00,652 --> 01:41:03,213
Speaker 8: that Chap who did it that nine years was like

2066
01:41:03,333 --> 01:41:09,213
Speaker 8: incredibly lucky. I don't know, maybe it's different now, but I.

2067
01:41:09,213 --> 01:41:11,732
Speaker 3: Think I heard that the outer limits to about ten years.

2068
01:41:13,412 --> 01:41:17,852
Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, Well, anyway, I was five, just going on five,

2069
01:41:18,372 --> 01:41:23,012
Speaker 18: And what a lot of people don't realize is your

2070
01:41:23,173 --> 01:41:24,452
Speaker 18: masculinity is.

2071
01:41:25,933 --> 01:41:27,773
Speaker 5: All about your.

2072
01:41:27,692 --> 01:41:31,133
Speaker 8: Production of bigots, you know, like having the real deal

2073
01:41:31,213 --> 01:41:35,572
Speaker 8: and shooting good bullets. And I didn't realize because it

2074
01:41:35,652 --> 01:41:40,732
Speaker 8: happened slowly over time. After I'd had my visectomy, I

2075
01:41:40,772 --> 01:41:45,972
Speaker 8: became a lot more calm and cruisy, and I wasn't

2076
01:41:46,013 --> 01:41:49,972
Speaker 8: flustered by things, and I didn't notice it. I wasn't

2077
01:41:49,973 --> 01:41:54,692
Speaker 8: aware I had a business, and I had retail staff

2078
01:41:54,732 --> 01:41:57,932
Speaker 8: at a retail business at the time, And of course

2079
01:41:57,973 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 8: I had to put back together and then I turned

2080
01:42:00,692 --> 01:42:03,813
Speaker 8: into a Grade one asshole within about five.

2081
01:42:03,692 --> 01:42:07,333
Speaker 3: Seconds, gelding to stellion again.

2082
01:42:07,933 --> 01:42:10,412
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And I had to be brought to my

2083
01:42:10,452 --> 01:42:13,173
Speaker 8: attention by one of the chaps and they going, what's

2084
01:42:13,213 --> 01:42:14,892
Speaker 8: happened to you? You know, and of course you keep

2085
01:42:14,933 --> 01:42:18,532
Speaker 8: that sort of thing private, and he said, you're just

2086
01:42:18,532 --> 01:42:21,333
Speaker 8: turning into a jerk, and I went, oh, god, bro,

2087
01:42:21,452 --> 01:42:23,213
Speaker 8: I didn't realize, you know, comeing he have a look

2088
01:42:23,213 --> 01:42:26,893
Speaker 8: at this. So I showed him me my earrings and

2089
01:42:26,933 --> 01:42:30,253
Speaker 8: he just fell over laughing and didn't know anything to

2090
01:42:30,293 --> 01:42:35,452
Speaker 8: do with, you know, oversectomy reversals. But I came back

2091
01:42:36,293 --> 01:42:42,253
Speaker 8: like really, I went through ball dropping within about five weeks,

2092
01:42:42,293 --> 01:42:46,372
Speaker 8: four or five weeks, and not in that I was,

2093
01:42:46,893 --> 01:42:49,612
Speaker 8: I was full load. I must have been backed up

2094
01:42:49,652 --> 01:42:53,853
Speaker 8: something shopping because within a month of having the reversal,

2095
01:42:54,372 --> 01:42:57,372
Speaker 8: I got my wife pregnant, like straight up.

2096
01:42:57,812 --> 01:43:00,012
Speaker 3: So how many kids have you had now, das since?

2097
01:43:00,853 --> 01:43:03,372
Speaker 8: Well I had three and I've now got two sons.

2098
01:43:03,692 --> 01:43:06,052
Speaker 3: Oh well, what a story, dad, Thank you for sharing

2099
01:43:06,133 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 3: success in the end. I think a lot sharing. Yeah,

2100
01:43:09,612 --> 01:43:11,492
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of sharing could have been. You

2101
01:43:11,572 --> 01:43:12,492
Speaker 3: broke that right down.

2102
01:43:12,572 --> 01:43:16,812
Speaker 2: Three kids vsicked me, three kids, thrown on the couch,

2103
01:43:17,253 --> 01:43:18,452
Speaker 2: resected me, kicked.

2104
01:43:18,213 --> 01:43:20,492
Speaker 3: Out, got neurded a whole lot of story.

2105
01:43:20,572 --> 01:43:24,812
Speaker 2: Boonata Golding, Yep, calm down, Stallion in rock, back up,

2106
01:43:24,853 --> 01:43:26,732
Speaker 2: two more kids, Happy day, his dad's.

2107
01:43:26,532 --> 01:43:28,572
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your call. Oh eight hundred

2108
01:43:28,652 --> 01:43:31,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. If you've had a vasect to me reversal,

2109
01:43:32,133 --> 01:43:35,532
Speaker 3: what were the circumstances? Shear your story? It is twenty

2110
01:43:35,532 --> 01:43:36,052
Speaker 3: to four.

2111
01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:39,173
Speaker 1: To have a chat with Matt and Tyler on eight

2112
01:43:39,253 --> 01:43:42,652
Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with.

2113
01:43:42,853 --> 01:43:45,052
Speaker 6: Skoda, can you crank the scoder code.

2114
01:43:45,053 --> 01:43:46,972
Speaker 3: Us dogs'd be seventeen to four.

2115
01:43:47,173 --> 01:43:50,732
Speaker 2: A lot of fans of Daz's call dare story is

2116
01:43:50,772 --> 01:43:53,892
Speaker 2: the story of the year that was captivating that Philipps says.

2117
01:43:54,853 --> 01:43:57,213
Speaker 3: Gary says that Darz has.

2118
01:43:57,093 --> 01:43:58,412
Speaker 2: Got to be the career of the year as well

2119
01:43:58,412 --> 01:44:00,093
Speaker 2: from Gay But I think he got a couple of

2120
01:44:00,093 --> 01:44:04,213
Speaker 2: things wrong because he said that once he had had

2121
01:44:04,213 --> 01:44:07,772
Speaker 2: the BESCT to me that he calmed down, but then

2122
01:44:07,812 --> 01:44:09,813
Speaker 2: once he was connected up again, he turned.

2123
01:44:09,572 --> 01:44:12,333
Speaker 3: Into an a whole, an a hole.

2124
01:44:12,853 --> 01:44:15,093
Speaker 2: I think that was related to you sick to me

2125
01:44:15,173 --> 01:44:17,652
Speaker 2: because vacinct me doesn't not and not like you know

2126
01:44:18,812 --> 01:44:21,692
Speaker 2: not the testosterone levels are related in any way to

2127
01:44:21,692 --> 01:44:23,692
Speaker 2: whether you're an a hole or I mean, you can

2128
01:44:23,692 --> 01:44:25,293
Speaker 2: get you know, some of the best people in the world,

2129
01:44:26,333 --> 01:44:30,452
Speaker 2: like myself, have very high testosterone levels. But the secondly,

2130
01:44:30,452 --> 01:44:33,772
Speaker 2: it does not testosterone level because it's you're still everything's

2131
01:44:33,772 --> 01:44:36,572
Speaker 2: still being produced. Yep, it's just not connected up by

2132
01:44:36,572 --> 01:44:40,492
Speaker 2: the tubes. So I don't know what caused Daz's personality change,

2133
01:44:40,492 --> 01:44:43,572
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm going to I'm going to say, yeah,

2134
01:44:43,612 --> 01:44:45,492
Speaker 2: judging by my research that I have done during the

2135
01:44:45,492 --> 01:44:47,652
Speaker 2: air break, that that wasn't to do with the visick

2136
01:44:47,772 --> 01:44:48,532
Speaker 2: me or the reversal.

2137
01:44:48,612 --> 01:44:51,093
Speaker 3: Unless they take the plums. I think, you know, you

2138
01:44:51,253 --> 01:44:54,852
Speaker 3: keep everything there, Litto's fine, keep it clean, Tyner, Jeremy,

2139
01:44:54,933 --> 01:44:59,972
Speaker 3: welcome to the show. Good mates. So you have had

2140
01:45:00,013 --> 01:45:01,452
Speaker 3: a reversal, have you?

2141
01:45:02,372 --> 01:45:06,253
Speaker 9: Yeah, yep, yep, No, got a reversal.

2142
01:45:05,853 --> 01:45:06,532
Speaker 21: Five years ago.

2143
01:45:06,652 --> 01:45:08,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what and what were the re.

2144
01:45:10,372 --> 01:45:10,612
Speaker 13: Yeah?

2145
01:45:10,692 --> 01:45:13,053
Speaker 9: So probably I could have sat around and had a

2146
01:45:13,093 --> 01:45:14,732
Speaker 9: few beers and I felt like Greg had sold the

2147
01:45:14,732 --> 01:45:18,172
Speaker 9: story was fare the same. Yeah, I had three kids,

2148
01:45:18,452 --> 01:45:22,412
Speaker 9: marriage break up, and yeah, met the next one to

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Speaker 9: be and right from the start we sort of out

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Speaker 9: of dating kids. Was was on the question, and I

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01:45:28,652 --> 01:45:30,652
Speaker 9: it was pretty clear if I we wanted to carry

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Speaker 9: on the relationship. I was going to get the reversal.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the way we went and successful, jermy.

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01:45:37,812 --> 01:45:38,492
Speaker 16: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 9: We've got two kids and.

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01:45:40,812 --> 01:45:42,132
Speaker 10: Another one on the way in about.

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Speaker 3: A month's congrats, greats, good stuff. Yeah. And so was

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Speaker 3: that an easy decision for you to make to say, yep,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty keen and obviously it's important to your your

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Speaker 3: new wife. Let's get it done.

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Speaker 9: Yeah it was. It was probably like I was pretty

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01:45:59,372 --> 01:46:02,452
Speaker 9: young when I got the got the particularly. I think

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Speaker 9: I was late twenties. I still remember the early starter. Remember,

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Speaker 9: are you sure you want to do this?

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Speaker 2: And ye shutting up shop in your twenties, it's a

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Speaker 2: bold decision.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he said, I remember him saying vividly,

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Speaker 9: he said, oh, what would happen if your wife and

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01:46:17,333 --> 01:46:20,812
Speaker 9: kids got taken out the car accidents? Well I turned around,

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Speaker 9: said I wouldn't been a hurriedly replace them, and they

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01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:25,372
Speaker 9: said like, oh, fair enough, and so we did it.

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Speaker 9: And then but yeah, like it come down to the

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01:46:27,893 --> 01:46:30,692
Speaker 9: fact of moving on in life, and you're either going

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Speaker 9: to meet someone that already had kids or meet someone

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Speaker 9: that might want kids. So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Interesting how life changes, isn't it, Jeremy. So you're so

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Speaker 2: sure about something at one point and then everything changes

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Speaker 2: and you couldn't you're completely sure the other way.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, one per I never thought about what it's going

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01:46:49,093 --> 01:46:51,013
Speaker 9: to be like when I'm a granddad and come Christmas time,

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01:46:51,013 --> 01:46:52,932
Speaker 9: how much I have to spend on Christmas presents. That

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01:46:52,973 --> 01:46:55,612
Speaker 9: probably couldn't care of my decision either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So how old are your kids now? And how

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Speaker 3: old are you?

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Speaker 9: So we've got I'm forty one. I've got sixteen, fifteen

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Speaker 9: and thirteen.

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Speaker 22: I've got sixteen kids that's the oldest, three to three

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01:47:12,492 --> 01:47:16,173
Speaker 22: teenagers and then three two and yeah one yeah during

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01:47:16,173 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 22: the next week, next month.

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Speaker 2: So a minute, so you you you currently got sex

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Speaker 2: and you're about to have one more.

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Speaker 9: I got five and one one on the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, got a good what a good crew?

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01:47:26,652 --> 01:47:29,293
Speaker 3: Well forty one still forty one still young year. You're

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01:47:29,293 --> 01:47:31,852
Speaker 3: not finished, hear me? Yeah, no I am.

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01:47:32,053 --> 01:47:33,812
Speaker 9: When when I was listening to your guys chat, I

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01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:35,892
Speaker 9: was like that, that reminds me I need to get

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Speaker 9: on and get that.

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Speaker 19: I should have I should have got to put a

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01:47:38,133 --> 01:47:39,253
Speaker 19: tap in you know, that would.

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Speaker 9: Have been needles trying to tap off.

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Speaker 2: But that's the next that's the next level of technology.

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01:47:45,973 --> 01:47:47,652
Speaker 2: Get get AI onto that one.

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01:47:48,812 --> 01:47:51,053
Speaker 9: And like Greg was saying with the nylon, I was

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01:47:51,093 --> 01:47:54,133
Speaker 9: the same boat. And the guy who did it said,

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01:47:54,973 --> 01:47:57,452
Speaker 9: and I'm from down South Island. We flew up to

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01:47:57,492 --> 01:48:00,652
Speaker 9: Auckland and didn't anyone know we're doing it. And he

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01:48:00,732 --> 01:48:02,293
Speaker 9: drew me a little picture just on the back of

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Speaker 9: a piece of rubbish paper of how to take the

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01:48:04,173 --> 01:48:07,893
Speaker 9: stitches out to show the nerves and any profits from me.

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01:48:07,933 --> 01:48:11,612
Speaker 9: A ring two days later blew up and I had

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01:48:11,652 --> 01:48:14,812
Speaker 9: this mess, a big, you know, blow up on one side.

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01:48:16,213 --> 01:48:17,372
Speaker 10: He's on holiday for three weeks.

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01:48:17,412 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 13: I was like.

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01:48:21,173 --> 01:48:24,253
Speaker 9: Lily, went to the nurse and the nurse had no

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01:48:24,293 --> 01:48:26,652
Speaker 9: idea what to do, so I pretty much drew it

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01:48:26,692 --> 01:48:28,492
Speaker 9: on a piece of paper and ship told her.

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01:48:28,333 --> 01:48:28,652
Speaker 11: What to do.

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01:48:28,732 --> 01:48:31,093
Speaker 9: And yeah, we sort of do it together. And all

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01:48:31,133 --> 01:48:33,772
Speaker 9: the nurses are quite interested to see how it works.

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01:48:34,732 --> 01:48:36,452
Speaker 2: It always seems that one of them blows up.

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01:48:36,612 --> 01:48:39,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems a common issue.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't good Simon to I sort of sitting at home,

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01:48:41,572 --> 01:48:43,293
Speaker 9: had an offer office worker at home, and then the

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01:48:43,293 --> 01:48:45,692
Speaker 9: painters turned up a week early, so I had to

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01:48:45,772 --> 01:48:49,093
Speaker 9: sort of just like hobble around the house trying not

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01:48:49,133 --> 01:48:51,013
Speaker 9: to make it too obvious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, well, good on you, Jeremy, and congratulations on

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01:48:53,772 --> 01:48:58,012
Speaker 2: the the the imminent arrival. Yes to the brood.

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01:48:58,213 --> 01:49:00,772
Speaker 3: Yep, you're doing your part, doing your part for New Zealand.

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01:49:01,372 --> 01:49:05,852
Speaker 2: Hey, I've got confirmation. So saying before that, I got

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01:49:05,853 --> 01:49:10,213
Speaker 2: a communication about me Cockshawn's vi sect to me numbers yep,

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01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:14,412
Speaker 2: grade district X grade district here, and I had overestimated

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01:49:14,412 --> 01:49:18,932
Speaker 2: how many viscimies and research reversals. And then Jeremy Wells

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01:49:18,933 --> 01:49:22,133
Speaker 2: of seven sharp fame text and two reversals, but he

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01:49:22,173 --> 01:49:23,973
Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred scent sure, So he's reached out to

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01:49:24,013 --> 01:49:27,053
Speaker 2: meyor Coxshawn for me, and we can definitely this is

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01:49:27,093 --> 01:49:31,172
Speaker 2: lockdown now, okay, but you can confirm two reversals confirmed,

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01:49:31,253 --> 01:49:35,452
Speaker 2: two reversals, can three three visectomes, two reversals five in total.

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Speaker 3: That is good to clear procedures and totals. Yeah, yeah,

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01:49:37,933 --> 01:49:39,612
Speaker 3: that is locked in. We can put a bow on

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01:49:39,652 --> 01:49:42,892
Speaker 3: that one, yeah, Tony Coxshawn, Yeah, well done. Well, probably

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01:49:42,933 --> 01:49:46,372
Speaker 3: won't bring that up again, okay, okay, right, Oh, one

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01:49:46,452 --> 01:49:48,612
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:49:49,253 --> 01:49:51,492
Speaker 3: It is eleven minutes to fall back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:49:56,013 --> 01:49:57,012
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

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Speaker 3: Be news talks there be it is eight to four, Louise,

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Speaker 3: really nice to chat with you. We've got about ninety seconds.

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Speaker 21: I hear that, okay, so quickly then, So my story

2252
01:50:13,213 --> 01:50:15,772
Speaker 21: was similar. I said that from a female's point of view,

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01:50:16,492 --> 01:50:19,652
Speaker 21: partner be married before three kids had to be sick

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01:50:19,732 --> 01:50:22,012
Speaker 21: to me, met me, I didn't have any children, wanted

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Speaker 21: to have children. He had a reversal. They said it

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01:50:24,532 --> 01:50:27,452
Speaker 21: didn't work. So we went down the ivy air froute,

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01:50:27,692 --> 01:50:29,852
Speaker 21: had accually and all that, and we ended up after

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01:50:29,933 --> 01:50:32,932
Speaker 21: a few failed attempts at pregnancy. We had one daughter.

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01:50:33,692 --> 01:50:35,612
Speaker 21: She was about a year old, and I got really

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01:50:35,612 --> 01:50:37,772
Speaker 21: sick and I said, if I didn't any better, I said,

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01:50:37,812 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 21: I think I'm having a miscarriage. Anyway, it turns out

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01:50:41,293 --> 01:50:44,293
Speaker 21: that I was. So I went to the hospital and

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01:50:44,293 --> 01:50:46,052
Speaker 21: they said, yes, are you going to tell your partner?

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01:50:46,293 --> 01:50:47,772
Speaker 16: And my doctor said if you jumped.

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Speaker 21: The fence, and I was like nat Anyway, I said

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01:50:50,093 --> 01:50:51,253
Speaker 21: ye I'm going to tell him. So I went home

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01:50:51,253 --> 01:50:52,732
Speaker 21: and said to him, Hey, I was pregnant. He goes, oh,

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01:50:52,732 --> 01:50:54,612
Speaker 21: it's not mine, and I said, oh, yeah it is.

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01:50:55,093 --> 01:50:57,333
Speaker 21: He said nah, because they said that I fire blanks

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Speaker 21: and I have to have the operation that actually did

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01:50:59,853 --> 01:51:04,013
Speaker 21: you know, get the spams? So yeah, so consequently he

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01:51:04,013 --> 01:51:05,692
Speaker 21: didn't want to have a test because he was right,

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01:51:05,812 --> 01:51:09,173
Speaker 21: thought it was not that I was being faithful and

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Speaker 21: all that sort of carry on. And that was very stressful.

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01:51:12,053 --> 01:51:14,812
Speaker 21: And he did go and have a test and I

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01:51:14,853 --> 01:51:17,892
Speaker 21: had to chase him about it and he said to me, yeah, yeah,

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01:51:17,893 --> 01:51:19,972
Speaker 21: they did it, but they forgot it for a while

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01:51:19,973 --> 01:51:22,652
Speaker 21: and when they found a test, results were only about

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01:51:22,692 --> 01:51:26,412
Speaker 21: seventy five percent life and so they want to see,

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01:51:26,492 --> 01:51:28,372
Speaker 21: you know, if they can get more. So I mean

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01:51:28,412 --> 01:51:30,692
Speaker 21: apology and he goes, no, that but that's just how

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01:51:30,772 --> 01:51:31,372
Speaker 21: males think.

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01:51:33,093 --> 01:51:36,213
Speaker 3: Well, he definitely should have apologized to you, Louise that.

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01:51:37,532 --> 01:51:40,412
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, I think he's a bit well consequently we're

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01:51:40,412 --> 01:51:42,772
Speaker 21: not together. That's just I think maybe the second census

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01:51:42,812 --> 01:51:45,213
Speaker 21: of the guy. But yeah, he's a class Yeah, a

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01:51:45,333 --> 01:51:46,933
Speaker 21: banker with a different.

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01:51:47,093 --> 01:51:47,772
Speaker 9: Name in front of it.

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01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:49,133
Speaker 21: So yeah, that was sort of the bit of the

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01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:51,492
Speaker 21: downhill from it, but a lovely daughter out of it.

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01:51:51,572 --> 01:51:54,412
Speaker 21: But yeah, so you know sometimes if it fails, can

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01:51:54,452 --> 01:51:55,253
Speaker 21: still come right.

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01:51:55,452 --> 01:51:58,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just be aware. So there you go, nicely

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01:51:58,973 --> 01:52:02,772
Speaker 3: said Louise, Thank you very much. What a story buyer beware, Yeah,

2295
01:52:02,893 --> 01:52:07,252
Speaker 3: very well told. In ninety seconds she fit that brief perfectly. Truth.

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01:52:07,372 --> 01:52:07,892
Speaker 3: What a chat.

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Speaker 2: It's be the last our Actually, what a great show

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Speaker 2: it's been. Thank you so much for listening, and special

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01:52:12,893 --> 01:52:15,293
Speaker 2: thanks to all of you who joined the conversation on

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Speaker 2: our eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: We had some fantastic calls today. We did say we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Back live tomorrow from lunch time with more Matt and

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01:52:25,652 --> 01:52:28,652
Speaker 2: Tyler afternoons. The great and powerful Heather see Ellen is

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01:52:28,732 --> 01:52:31,133
Speaker 2: up next. Since she's talking about teenage boys, apparently they

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01:52:31,173 --> 01:52:34,492
Speaker 2: aren't as dangerous as our spy bosses are claiming. But

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Speaker 2: right now, Tyler, my good friend, why am I playing

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01:52:37,652 --> 01:52:39,412
Speaker 2: this tune? I love this song?

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01:52:39,492 --> 01:52:42,452
Speaker 3: This is len Isn't it steal my Sunshine? What a tune?

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01:52:42,492 --> 01:52:45,692
Speaker 3: What an absolute tune? Because of course, we had a

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01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:48,293
Speaker 3: great chat about Solo. It started off with some pretty

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Speaker 3: poor information about it, about user era and tunes out

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01:52:52,812 --> 01:52:55,213
Speaker 3: everyone loves these solar setups. Yeah, apparently they're amazing.

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Speaker 2: Despite the claims of some clickbaity article that you brought

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Speaker 2: to the show TI.

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Speaker 3: From nineteen ninety nine, the song Yeah what a great

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01:53:03,772 --> 01:53:05,612
Speaker 3: shown from ninety ninety nine. Was it a one that

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01:53:05,692 --> 01:53:07,452
Speaker 3: wondered for them? I think it was, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was from their third studio album, Can't Stop the

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01:53:09,732 --> 01:53:11,812
Speaker 2: Bum Rush, so it sounds like a one hit wonder.

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Speaker 2: That's a great neighbor, all right, As I say, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening until tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Give him a taste of Kiwi from our Safe.

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