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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at Bala.

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Speaker 2: And do the copstay, do the Copsteins, do the Copstey swifts.

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Speaker 3: This is Mahshma Mashana I did practice. This is the

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Speaker 3: new album and the single off the album by Father

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Speaker 3: John Misty. And joining me now to tell me all

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Speaker 3: about Father John Misty, who I'm quite liking, is a

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Speaker 3: Stelle Clifford Good Morning More.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those words that you can almost say

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Speaker 4: better if you don't look at it.

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Speaker 3: Mash Mashana.

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Speaker 4: Mash Mashana, I believe is Hindu for a great cremation pit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sets a scene and certainly does. And I look,

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Speaker 3: I really like this sound. I'm gonna be with you

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Speaker 3: a sale. I'm not hugely familiar with Father John Misty,

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Speaker 3: but I kind of there's a sort of a retro

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Speaker 3: sound to this sound, to this sort of.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of those artists who's been somewhere

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Speaker 4: where he did start off being sort of like slow

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Speaker 4: poppy in his very early years, but he's transitioned into

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Speaker 4: this kind of like indie rock pop sort of artist,

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Speaker 4: and this album here he's gone to a whole other

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Speaker 4: level because it's quite orchestral, you've got funk soul sometimes

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Speaker 4: and like so that's the starting song, which orchestral sweeps right,

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Speaker 4: and then straight after that you're into indie rock and

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Speaker 4: it's grunge guitar and you're like, wow, what is this guy?

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Speaker 4: But that's interesting thing about Father John Misty. He is

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Speaker 4: a guy who actually, for quite a few years he

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Speaker 4: was a drummer in a band called Fleet Fox's.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I know, Fleet Fox's okay falling into place.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, So here's their drummer for a couple of

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Speaker 4: albums in one massive tour. He'd done some solo stuff

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Speaker 4: before that under his own name, Josh Hillman, which didn't

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Speaker 4: really go too far for him, and then coming out

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Speaker 4: of touring with them, that was kind of like some

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Speaker 4: material was coming to him and he made this alter

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Speaker 4: ego of Father John Misty. He's someone who was brought

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Speaker 4: up in a very religious household. They weren't allowed to

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Speaker 4: listen to much modern music. And I guess some of

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Speaker 4: his albums have probably fallen into like, you know, talking

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Speaker 4: about what that is because actually some of his lyrics

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Speaker 4: are very tongue in cheek and you know, citing how

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Speaker 4: it was for his life growing up. So he's got

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Speaker 4: quite a big background and being a musician. He's also

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Speaker 4: one of those people who he produces his own stuff,

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Speaker 4: but he's also worked on albums for like Beyonce and

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Speaker 4: Lady Gaga, Kid Cuddy. I think he's done, so I'm

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Speaker 4: producing on those kind of albums, So I reckon. He's

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Speaker 4: like INDI's music version of Ryan Tedder from One Republic Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: He was very musically talented, and you can tell that

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Speaker 4: when he can then release an album like this where

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Speaker 4: his lyrics are very poetic. If you think John Lennon,

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Speaker 4: those kind of people, they write some really deep stuff

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Speaker 4: that you sometimes don't hear the first few times and

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Speaker 4: then you're like, oh, okay, I'm kind of going somewhere. Also,

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Speaker 4: why would you name your album after Cromation Pit. But

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like him saying I'm shedding off that

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Speaker 4: and moving into a new season. So there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of rumors around this album being possibly his final one

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Speaker 4: as father John Misty.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting though, when you say, you know, things might

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Speaker 3: not strike you at first, but they are the albums

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Speaker 3: I love. I love when you when you take a

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Speaker 3: first part in an album and you go, oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to listen to this again and again because there

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Speaker 3: is so much there. There is so much theater absorber,

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Speaker 3: and that's going to keep me, you know, just yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love that feeling when you play an album for

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Speaker 3: the first time. I do too.

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Speaker 4: And because he writes in that sort of poetic and

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Speaker 4: then slight storytellerway, you're like, wow, there's something really evolving here. Mahashmashana.

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Speaker 4: That song sounds like it should be, you know, like

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Speaker 4: a crescendo in a movie when something quite traumatic or

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Speaker 4: big has happened. And then you go into the electro

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Speaker 4: blues reverb on the mic, and the lyrics that go

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Speaker 4: with that are very think what did they say, Mary

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Speaker 4: Magdalene as kill Bill. So you're getting kind of my

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Speaker 4: idea of what you're listening to, and I think you're

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Speaker 4: right because you can stay with that album for a

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Speaker 4: long time. You don't bore of something like that when

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Speaker 4: there's like some really beautiful lyrics that have been put

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Speaker 4: together with then some incredible layering of really clever music

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Speaker 4: and musicianship and you know's and he's not someone who's

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Speaker 4: going to shy away from where he's been, that he

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Speaker 4: has dabbled in drugs, he's become a parent. Life is

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Speaker 4: supposed to be this, and he kind of shares all

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Speaker 4: of that. How are we supposed to cope in this

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Speaker 4: world that seems so focused on capitalism and greed? But

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Speaker 4: actually it becoming a dad, you suddenly go, hey, the

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Speaker 4: world is actually quite innocent through their eyes. So it's

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Speaker 4: an interesting thing to sort of put into a concept.

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Speaker 4: I guess he's on a lot of concept albums because

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Speaker 4: of that.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that sort of in the first couple of songs,

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Speaker 3: you're getting a quite different sort of genre. Does that

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Speaker 3: carry on throughout the album or does he sort of

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Speaker 3: settle into a bit of a style.

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Speaker 4: I would say that it leans quite heavily towards the orchestral,

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Speaker 4: so there's a lot more of the strings and then

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Speaker 4: suddenly like big keys and things like that, But then

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Speaker 4: there'll be this one or two breakouts. But I would

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Speaker 4: say it's probably more orchestral than it is anything else,

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Speaker 4: which is why I think the song She Cleaned Up

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Speaker 4: really stands out, which you're going to share a little

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Speaker 4: bit of just so you can hear the opposing kind

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Speaker 4: of sounds. There's also a bit of like that jazz

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Speaker 4: funk sort of keys, like he's at some sort of

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Speaker 4: jazz bar and a trumpet, and so it's quite a

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Speaker 4: ride musically, and not in a bad way though, Like

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Speaker 4: I think, because he's so skilled at what he does,

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Speaker 4: it's actually a really enjoyable rite and it keeps you

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Speaker 4: kind of with him. It is quite nostalgic, so definitely

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Speaker 4: more of that seventies leaning kind of soul funk sort

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I actually quite like it. It keeps me

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Speaker 4: more interested than when it's just one genre perhaps, you know,

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Speaker 4: like absolutely no, yeah, yeah, but definitely more orchestral than

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Speaker 4: he's probably ever done in any of his albums before.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of big arrangements, so that's obviously something

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Speaker 4: he's playing with at the moment, but it fits so

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Speaker 4: perfectly with his storytelling and what he's doing so that

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Speaker 4: those big, crazy breakout moments. Screamland is another one of

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Speaker 4: those songs. Again he's lulled you into these like ballads

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Speaker 4: and orchestral moments and then Screamland comes out and it's

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Speaker 4: exactly what you'd imagine a song called Screamland is.

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Speaker 3: What do you rate it, Estelle, I'm giving.

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Speaker 4: Out a nine out of ten. This is an album

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Speaker 4: you should definitely give some time and it will grow

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Speaker 4: on you and I think it might become one of

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Speaker 4: those faves.

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Speaker 3: Estelle, think so much for your contribution to the show

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Speaker 3: throughout the year, for always introducing me to good new

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Speaker 3: music and giving me some look. I think this is

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Speaker 3: gonna be perfect as I drive around the Yes, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, and Merry Christmas. We're going to play

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Speaker 3: as Estasis. We're going to play another track she cleans

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Speaker 3: up in just a moment. Six to twelve.

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