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Speaker 1: Welfare rules, new welfare rules for our pig farming industry,

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Speaker 1: which is a seven hundred million dollar operation. Minimum spacing

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Speaker 1: requirements will rise thirteen percent time and faroing crates will

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Speaker 1: drop from thirty three days to seven. So that's major

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Speaker 1: others taken five years of consultation makes us one of

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Speaker 1: the strictest operators in the world. Andrew Hoggard's in charge

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Speaker 1: of this, Associate Ministry for the Agriculture and Animal Welfare Morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 3: This needed doing, Yes, it did really important that the

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Speaker 3: industry was given some certainty around what their future looks like.

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Speaker 3: They've been living in a bit of a limbo land

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Speaker 3: since effectively twenty twenty or perhaps even twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 3: it'd been really heading confidence in the sector and also

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Speaker 3: people's thoughts or plans around succession and where they move

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Speaker 3: forward to. So it gives the industry held a lot

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Speaker 3: of certainty as to how to move forward.

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Speaker 1: Why did it take five years?

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Speaker 2: The Nework Review started in I think twenty twenty. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: when I got the role early twenty four it landed

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Speaker 2: on my desk and I said, well, this is going

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Speaker 2: to affect the industry quite badly. These recommendations as they were,

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Speaker 2: and the industry was definitely not happy with them. So

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Speaker 2: set MPI and to negotiate or to talk to the

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Speaker 2: industry as to what would be workable while still moving

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Speaker 2: welfare forward. That took a bit of time, and then

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Speaker 2: the rest of the time has been worked out and

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Speaker 2: how the hell do we make this happen. The big

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Speaker 2: challenge was the fact that the previous government had used,

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Speaker 2: already used a transition time up and the money allowed

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Speaker 2: to do that once during the act. So hence, while

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Speaker 2: we landed on okay, we've actually got to take regulations

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Speaker 2: to the House so that I can give a second

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Speaker 2: transition period so that these farmers can actually make these changes,

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Speaker 2: because they're not going to be simple changes. They may

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Speaker 2: involve having the rebuild facilities and all the rest of it,

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Speaker 2: which will probably require consents and all that. So this

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Speaker 2: is not a simple thing that the industry can suddenly

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Speaker 2: click its fingers and magically move to a new system.

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Speaker 1: Hence we've got till twenty thirty five. Having said all

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Speaker 1: of that, the harder you make it, where does that

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Speaker 1: leave imported meat versus local meat? And have you hobbled

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Speaker 1: the industry? No?

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Speaker 2: The industry. My feedback from the industry is they can

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Speaker 2: do this. They just they needed something that was achievable.

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Speaker 2: They felt that this was achievable and also that certainty

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Speaker 2: and that transition period was really important. Was the feedback

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Speaker 2: I'd gotten.

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Speaker 1: All Right, mate, go well, have a good weekend. Andrew Hoggard,

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Speaker 1: Associate Minister of Agriculture.

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